Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.5.0.5 - Media server won't write to tape

2013-11-13 Thread Iverson, Jerald
can you post   tpconfig -l   output from all nodes?and possibly   bpps -a   
if unix/linux?

thanks,
jerald

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.5.0.5 - Media server won't write to tape

From this it seems that node B has an issue with loading the tape

I would try the same operation with robtest in volmgr/bin from node B and mt -f 
device file status to check  

Regards
Michael

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 Den 12/11/2013 kl. 17.57 skrev Dennis Peacock nbu-fo...@backupcentral.com:
 
 Out of the job detail log:
 
 11/12/2013 10:07:26 - current media KC0063 complete, requesting next 
 media Any
 11/12/2013 10:28:34 - Waiting for scan drive stop IBM.ULT3580-TD5.002, 
 Media server: node-B
 11/12/2013 10:28:38 - granted resource  KC0063
 11/12/2013 10:28:38 - granted resource  IBM.ULT3580-TD5.002
 11/12/2013 10:28:38 - granted resource  node-b-hcart2-robot-tld-0
 11/12/2013 10:28:39 - Info bptm (pid=4653098) Waiting for mount of media id 
 KC0063 (copy 1) on server node-B.
 11/12/2013 10:28:39 - mounting KC0063
 11/12/2013 10:36:08 - Error bptm (pid=4653098) error requesting media, 
 TpErrno = Robot operation failed
 11/12/2013 10:36:08 - Warning bptm (pid=4653098) media id KC0063 load 
 operation reported an error
 11/12/2013 10:36:08 - current media KC0063 complete, requesting next 
 media Any
 11/12/2013 10:36:19 - Error bptm (pid=4653098) media manager 
 terminated by parent process
 11/12/2013 10:36:23 - Info bpbkar (pid=65142872) done. status: 150: 
 termination requested by administrator
 11/12/2013 10:36:23 - end writing
 termination requested by administrator  (150)
 
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[Veritas-bu] NBU 7.5.0.5 - Media server won't write to tape

2013-11-13 Thread Dennis Peacock
Good Morning,
I opened a support case with Symantec on this as this should NOT be this hard.  
[Wink] 
They have determined that it is an HBA issue via the VSCSI0 controller. We are 
moving forward with diagnosis and resolution. More to come and I find out more.

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[Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same machine for RMAN?

2013-11-13 Thread Lightner, Jeff
Does the Netbackup Media Server license on a host include the Oracle client 
like the Netbackup Client itself does?

On reviewing the guide at 
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=DOC3672 it talks 
about the client but always seems to suggest that the client has to be pushed 
to a separate media server (or the master/media server).

We need to do a large RMAN backup per vendor of an Oracle DB so I’m thinking of 
making this Oracle DB server its own media server so it can push directly to 
tape and deduplication storage units rather than having to transfer over the 
network to a separate media or master.It just isn’t clear to me this is 
possible and I need to know.   This is NetBackup 7.1.

I know for it to be a media server I have to get the license for standard media 
server and the shared storage license.   Do I need any other license for 
Oracle/RMAN to work on a media server that backs only itself up?  Do I need to 
full media server license instead of the back itself up one if it is doing its 
own RMAN client on same server?









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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same machine for RMAN?

2013-11-13 Thread Dwayne Adams
Jeff,

 

I would be careful about making a DB server a NBU Media Server.
 It sounds like a great idea until you realize that you married your
backup system to the DB server and it now has a dependency with the DB server.
 You should weigh the alternatives and see if it is really worth the
dependency to the backup system.  I believe there is a SAN Media Server
license that will allow you to backup data for that server only.  Of
course you will need the RMAN\Oracle license as well.

 

Regards,

 

Dwayne Adams
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Netbackup Guru and Windows Systems Administrator
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From: jlight...@water.com
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 19:48:26 +
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same 
machine for RMAN?












Does the Netbackup Media Server license on a host include the Oracle client 
like the Netbackup Client itself does?
 
On reviewing the guide at 
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=DOC3672 it talks 
about the client but always seems to suggest that the client has to be pushed 
to a separate media server (or the master/media server).
 
We need to do a large RMAN backup per vendor of an Oracle DB so I’m thinking of 
making this Oracle DB server its own media server so it can push directly to 
tape and deduplication storage units rather than having to transfer over the 
network
 to a separate media or master.It just isn’t clear to me this is possible 
and I need to know.   This is NetBackup 7.1.
 
I know for it to be a media server I have to get the license for standard media 
server and the shared storage license.   Do I need any other license for 
Oracle/RMAN to work on a media server that backs only itself up?  Do I need to 
full
 media server license instead of the back itself up one if it is doing its own 
RMAN client on same server?



 
 

 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same machine for RMAN?

2013-11-13 Thread smpt1
Hello,

You can install and use  media server at the server with the oracle database. 
This is something common.

For the licenses you need:

 

Enterprise client (media server option that back up only himself)

SSO license (if you will use shared drives). You do not need SSO if you already 
share the drive(s) with other systems. The SSO license goes with the drive, not 
the server.

Database license for the oracle database. If you already have, its ok.

 

Is the oracle server a standalone server, cluster or RAC ?

 

Please pay attention that if you are using inline copy (two copies at the time 
of backup), both copies must use the same media server (the oracle server).  In 
order to do that the deduplication hashing will be performed at the oracle 
server.

 

Stefanos

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff
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To: Auburn. Edu (veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu)
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same 
machine for RMAN?

 

Does the Netbackup Media Server license on a host include the Oracle client 
like the Netbackup Client itself does?

 

On reviewing the guide at 
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content 
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=DOC3672 
id=DOC3672 it talks about the client but always seems to suggest that the 
client has to be pushed to a separate media server (or the master/media 
server).

 

We need to do a large RMAN backup per vendor of an Oracle DB so I’m thinking of 
making this Oracle DB server its own media server so it can push directly to 
tape and deduplication storage units rather than having to transfer over the 
network to a separate media or master.It just isn’t clear to me this is 
possible and I need to know.   This is NetBackup 7.1.

 

I know for it to be a media server I have to get the license for standard media 
server and the shared storage license.   Do I need any other license for 
Oracle/RMAN to work on a media server that backs only itself up?  Do I need to 
full media server license instead of the back itself up one if it is doing its 
own RMAN client on same server?

 

 

 

 

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Do not relinquish your right to choose bottled water as a healthy alternative 
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federal and state issues, such as bottle deposits (or taxes) and organizations 
that want to ban the sale of bottled water. Support community curbside 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same machine for RMAN?

2013-11-13 Thread Lightner, Jeff
Thanks.

My experience is I’ve had to install the SSO license on media servers any time 
I setup the tape library.Are you saying we only have to pay for it once no 
matter how often it is installed?

The machine is standalone with no RAC.   Enterprise client is correct.   My 
question isn’t whether I can backup “generally” from an Enterprise client but 
rather whether I can specifically Enterprise client as the “media server” for 
RMAN on the same host.   That is use the Oracle type backup for a live DB with 
RMAN rather than a type “standard” backup as we would for a quiesced DB on 
which we were just backing up the filesystem directly.We do the latter all 
the time but this would be first time we’re attempting the former.





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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:19 PM
To: Lightner, Jeff; 'Auburn. Edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same 
machine for RMAN?

Hello,
You can install and use  media server at the server with the oracle database. 
This is something common.
For the licenses you need:

Enterprise client (media server option that back up only himself)
SSO license (if you will use shared drives). You do not need SSO if you already 
share the drive(s) with other systems. The SSO license goes with the drive, not 
the server.
Database license for the oracle database. If you already have, its ok.

Is the oracle server a standalone server, cluster or RAC ?

Please pay attention that if you are using inline copy (two copies at the time 
of backup), both copies must use the same media server (the oracle server).  In 
order to do that the deduplication hashing will be performed at the oracle 
server.

Stefanos





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Do not relinquish your right to choose bottled water as a healthy alternative 
to beverages that contain sugar, calories, etc. Your support of bottled water 
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http://www.bottledwatermatters.org/luv-bottledwater-iframe/dswaters and sign a 
petition to support your right to always choose bottled water. Help fight 
federal and state issues, such as bottle deposits (or taxes) and organizations 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same machine for RMAN?

2013-11-13 Thread Lightner, Jeff
Thanks.

I’m not suggesting making this DB a media server for other backups – just for 
its own backups.

Since my original post I’ve run across one thread where a user was having 
performance issues doing what we want to do because RMAN was not being 
throttled so it sounds like it is possible.   Some suggestions in that post 
mystified me as they seemed to imply that backing up across the network would 
use LESS resources than using the server itself as its own media server.   
Given that I can go at fibre speed to the tape library that hardly seems 
reasonable to me.





From: Dwayne Adams [mailto:dc_adam...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:07 PM
To: Lightner, Jeff; Auburn. Edu (veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu)
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same 
machine for RMAN?

Jeff,

I would be careful about making a DB server a NBU Media Server.  It sounds like 
a great idea until you realize that you married your backup system to the DB 
server and it now has a dependency with the DB server.  You should weigh the 
alternatives and see if it is really worth the dependency to the backup system. 
 I believe there is a SAN Media Server license that will allow you to backup 
data for that server only.  Of course you will need the RMAN\Oracle license as 
well.

Regards,

Dwayne Adams

Dwayne C. Adams, Jr.
Netbackup Guru and Windows Systems Administrator
email: dc_adam...@hotmail.commailto:dc_adam...@hotmail.com
cell:x
website: http://www.linkedin.com/in/dcadamsjr






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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same machine for RMAN?

2013-11-13 Thread smpt1
Yes, you need one “library drive” license  and one SSO license per drive. 

You need to install these license’s serial numbers to all media servers.

 

And Yes, Enterprise client license give you the ability to install local media 
server at the oracle system and backup the oracle with RMAN directly to tapes, 
assuming that you have the database license.

setfanos

 

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:53 PM
To: 'Auburn. Edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same 
machine for RMAN?

 

Thanks.

 

My experience is I’ve had to install the SSO license on media servers any time 
I setup the tape library.Are you saying we only have to pay for it once no 
matter how often it is installed?  

 

The machine is standalone with no RAC.   Enterprise client is correct.   My 
question isn’t whether I can backup “generally” from an Enterprise client but 
rather whether I can specifically Enterprise client as the “media server” for 
RMAN on the same host.   That is use the Oracle type backup for a live DB with 
RMAN rather than a type “standard” backup as we would for a quiesced DB on 
which we were just backing up the filesystem directly.We do the latter all 
the time but this would be first time we’re attempting the former.

 

 

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of sm...@peppas.gr
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:19 PM
To: Lightner, Jeff; 'Auburn. Edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same 
machine for RMAN?

 

Hello,

You can install and use  media server at the server with the oracle database. 
This is something common.

For the licenses you need:

 

Enterprise client (media server option that back up only himself)

SSO license (if you will use shared drives). You do not need SSO if you already 
share the drive(s) with other systems. The SSO license goes with the drive, not 
the server.

Database license for the oracle database. If you already have, its ok.

 

Is the oracle server a standalone server, cluster or RAC ?

 

Please pay attention that if you are using inline copy (two copies at the time 
of backup), both copies must use the same media server (the oracle server).  In 
order to do that the deduplication hashing will be performed at the oracle 
server.

 

Stefanos

 

 

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Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer

 

 

How and Why I Should Support Bottled Water!
Do not relinquish your right to choose bottled water as a healthy alternative 
to beverages that contain sugar, calories, etc. Your support of bottled water 
will make a difference! Your signatures count! Go to 
http://www.bottledwatermatters.org/luv-bottledwater-iframe/dswaters and sign a 
petition to support your right to always choose bottled water. Help fight 
federal and state issues, such as bottle deposits (or taxes) and organizations 
that want to ban the sale of bottled water. Support community curbside 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same machine for RMAN?

2013-11-13 Thread Lightner, Jeff
OK.  Thanks again.

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:30 PM
To: Lightner, Jeff; 'Auburn. Edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same 
machine for RMAN?

Yes, you need one “library drive” license  and one SSO license per drive.
You need to install these license’s serial numbers to all media servers.

And Yes, Enterprise client license give you the ability to install local media 
server at the oracle system and backup the oracle with RMAN directly to tapes, 
assuming that you have the database license.
setfanos


From: 
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 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:53 PM
To: 'Auburn. Edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same 
machine for RMAN?

Thanks.

My experience is I’ve had to install the SSO license on media servers any time 
I setup the tape library.Are you saying we only have to pay for it once no 
matter how often it is installed?

The machine is standalone with no RAC.   Enterprise client is correct.   My 
question isn’t whether I can backup “generally” from an Enterprise client but 
rather whether I can specifically Enterprise client as the “media server” for 
RMAN on the same host.   That is use the Oracle type backup for a live DB with 
RMAN rather than a type “standard” backup as we would for a quiesced DB on 
which we were just backing up the filesystem directly.We do the latter all 
the time but this would be first time we’re attempting the former.





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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:19 PM
To: Lightner, Jeff; 'Auburn. Edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB server and NetBackup Media Server on same 
machine for RMAN?

Hello,
You can install and use  media server at the server with the oracle database. 
This is something common.
For the licenses you need:

Enterprise client (media server option that back up only himself)
SSO license (if you will use shared drives). You do not need SSO if you already 
share the drive(s) with other systems. The SSO license goes with the drive, not 
the server.
Database license for the oracle database. If you already have, its ok.

Is the oracle server a standalone server, cluster or RAC ?

Please pay attention that if you are using inline copy (two copies at the time 
of backup), both copies must use the same media server (the oracle server).  In 
order to do that the deduplication hashing will be performed at the oracle 
server.

Stefanos





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How and Why I Should Support Bottled Water!
Do not relinquish your right to choose bottled water as a healthy alternative 
to beverages that contain sugar, calories, etc. Your support of bottled water 
will make a difference! Your signatures count! Go to 
http://www.bottledwatermatters.org/luv-bottledwater-iframe/dswaters and sign a 
petition to support your right to always choose bottled water. Help fight 
federal and state issues, such as bottle deposits (or taxes) and organizations 
that want to ban the sale of bottled water. Support community curbside 
recycling programs. Support bottled water as a healthy way to maintain proper 
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