Re: [Veritas-bu] Duplication / expiring image question

2010-01-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
Typically we wouldn't promote the duplicate (copy 2) to primary first.
We'd simply set its retention:

 

bpexpdate -backupid backupID -d infinity -copy 2 

 

Then for the original (copy 1) we'd set it to expire immediately:

 

bpexpdate -backupid backupID -d 0 -copy 1

 

We wouldn't specify media at all as what we're interested in is the
images (which is what the backupid refers to) not the media.  Once all
images on a given media are expired then the media itself expires
automatically.

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour,
Wayne
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:22 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Duplication / expiring image question

 

Our environment, NBU 6.5.4 running on HP-UX 11-31 with a Data Domain VTL
and MSL6060 tape library.

Our tape library wasn't connected when we ran our yearly backups and now
that it is, I'm in the process of duplicating the yearly backups from
the VTL to tape to be moved offsite.  I am going through my process to
insure I don't miss any data in the move and only remove the original of
the duplicated data.  I have duplicated what was backed from one policy
and set the copy as primary.  In the example below, the original was
backed up to D11233 and then duplicated to 000789.  

#

 # bpimagelist  -d 01/02/2010 -sl dbn-pkg02-arch-bcv-yf

IMAGE yos_sam1 0 0 8 yos_sam1_1262415605 dbn-pkg02-arch-bcv-dd 0 *NULL*
root dbn-pkg02-arch-bcv-yf 0 8 1262415605 1296 1483167605 0 0 16501472
1826 2 2 0 dbn-pkg02-arch-bcv-dd_1262415605_FULL.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 2 0 0
0 *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 *NULL* 0 0 0 *NULL* 438265 1 0 198706 0 0 *NULL*
*NULL* 0 0

HISTO -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1

FRAG 1 1 16501472 0 2 6 1 D11233 yos_sam1 65536 2 0 1 0 *NULL*
1483167605 0 65544 0 0 0 1 0 1262416901 0 *NULL*

FRAG 2 1 16501472 0 2 14 1 000789 yos_sam1 65536 2 0 14 0 *NULL*
1483167605 0 65544 0 0 0 1 0 1262810326 0 *NULL*

 #

What I now need to do is expire the D11233 VTL tape and leave the 000789
one alone.  After I RTFM I think the command below should do what I want
but would like some verification before pulling the trigger:

# bpexpdate  -backupid yos_sam1_1262415605  -m D11233  -d 0

Can anyone see a problem with the above, will it only remove the images
on D11233 for the backup id of yos_sam1_1262415605 and leave anything
else alone?  Is there better way to do this?

Thanks in advance

Wayne BeDour

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Re: [Veritas-bu] jnbSA NOT working from OpenSuse Box

2009-11-23 Thread Jeff Lightner
When you use -X you're telling it to open an ssh tunnel.  Typically that
sets the DISPLAY variable and updates the $HOME/.Xauthority file on the
host and for the user to which you're attaching.  Due to this you should
NOT set the DISPLAY variable after login as it is the tunnel session
that sets it for you.   

 

Also if your login is as one user (e.g. ssh -X waleed) but you're trying
to su - root after the login then this DISPLAY variable and the
.Xauthority aren't valid for the new user.   In that case your procedure
should be something like this:

1)   ssh -X waleed@netbackup server name or IP

2)   echo $DISPLAY 

3)   Copy the DISPLAY value into your buffer.

4)   su - (or su - root or sudo su - or sudo su - root - however you
normally become root)

5)   export DISPLAY=value copied in step 3

6)   export XAUTHORITY=/home/waleed/.Xauthority (or wherever the
home directory of the user you initially logged in as is).

 

I've seen that ssh tunnels don't set display for root on some hosts
(e.g. HP-UX).

 

If all the above fails then you can do it the old fashioned way:

1)   xhost + ip or hostname of your netbackup server

2)   ssh waleed@netbackup server name or IP

3)   su - (or...)

4)   export DISPLAY=ip of your suse box:0.0

For this method you have to be sure ports in the 6000 range are open in
any firewall between the suse box and the netbackup server (including
iptables if it is running).

 

 

 



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Harbi
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:25 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] jnbSA NOT working from OpenSuse Box

 

Hi,

I am new to Netbackup, I have Solaris 10 Netbackup server, and I want
run jnbSA from that server remotely using ssh -X in Linux but I faced
Java error message about X11 forwarding even I configured DISPLAY
variable, from other hand in Windows worked fine using Netbackup-Java
GUI.

Any suggestion? 

Is there Netbackup-Java GUI avalibe for Linux box to connect Netbackup
server?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows)

2009-11-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
There's no need to erase scratch tapes.  When they are scratch then they
will be overwritten the next time NBU uses them.

 



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Daniel
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:04 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows)

 

Hey guys

 

Does anyone have a quick erase script for Netbackup 6.5.3.1 (Windows
2003 Enterprise server)? I would like to be able to schedule the script
to find all scratch tapes and run a quick erase on these tapes on a
weekly basis. In addition, we have Unix utilities on the box so we can
use these commands on the server.  Any assistance would be appreciated,
thanks. 

 

Daniel Jimenez

Data Protection Team
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows)

2009-11-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
We use Data Domain here and haven't seen that.   

 

Are you running image cleanup jobs in NBU?

 



From: Jimenez, Daniel [mailto:daniel.jime...@owb.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:45 PM
To: Jeff Lightner; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows)

 

Jeff

 

When you use Data Domain DDR's if one of the tapes becomes scratch and
is not re-used right away, they hold data that is not cleaned up on the
DDR until they are used or quick erased so there can be a few GB's or
several hundred GB's that can be sitting on the DDR that can be cleaned
up.  Which is why we are looking for a script. 

 

Daniel Jimenez

Data Protection Team

 

 

From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlight...@water.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:34 AM
To: Jimenez, Daniel; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows)

 

There's no need to erase scratch tapes.  When they are scratch then they
will be overwritten the next time NBU uses them.

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jimenez,
Daniel
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:04 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows)

 

Hey guys

 

Does anyone have a quick erase script for Netbackup 6.5.3.1 (Windows
2003 Enterprise server)? I would like to be able to schedule the script
to find all scratch tapes and run a quick erase on these tapes on a
weekly basis. In addition, we have Unix utilities on the box so we can
use these commands on the server.  Any assistance would be appreciated,
thanks. 

 

Daniel Jimenez

Data Protection Team

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] General Backup Question: Offsite tape rotation

2009-10-26 Thread Jeff Lightner
Generally speaking what we do here is backup to Data Domain then
duplicate the image to tape and send the tapes off site once a week.

Prior to Data Domain we backed up to tape then duplicated to tape and
sent the dupes offsite once a week.

There was a time we sent tapes off every day but that was deemed too
expensive by the powers that be.

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judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:27 AM
To: hkyeak...@gmail.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] General Backup Question: Offsite tape rotation

Yes we send ALL backups off site.

If you lost the hard drives or the whole building you would only be able
to restore to your last full that is off site.
  (that is if your onsite physical vault withstands whatever destroyed
your building).

I send my full's and instrumental's off site the next morning.

My only fear is when I have tapes brought back onsite for restores...
then if I lose the building I would lose those days a well.


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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe
Yeakley
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:53 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] General Backup Question: Offsite tape rotation

I'm deploying a NetApp Virtual Tape Library at work right now, and I
have an engineer from NetApp coming in to help me set it up. I was
explaining to him how we rotate tapes, and he seemed a little
bewildered at our rotation method. I've never done tape
backup/recovery anywhere else, so to me, our way is normal, in that
it's the only way I've ever been shown how to do this.

- - = = Cycle = = - -

About 99% of our customers are backed up via policies with the
following attributes:
* They get a Full backup 1 night a week and differential-incrementals
the other 6 nights.
* We have an on-site vault where tapes go for a week. After a week,
Iron Mountain comes and gets them.
* We ship Full AND Differential-Incrementals off-site for 90 days
(--- This is the bullet point that bewilders my VTL engineer)

In laying out the VTL, my NetApp engineer tells me that he wants to
make a virtual library for all Full backups and a Virtual Library for
the Diffs. I figured we'd just have 1 virtual library for everything.
He explained to me that since we want to write the Full backups out to
physical tape, that we need a separate Virtual Library for the Full
backups on so that we can enable the Direct Tape Creation feature on
that VTL. When I told him I needed to write the Diffs to physical tape
also, so that I could send both offsite, he seemed to think that was
really odd. He claims that all the other VTLs he's deployed typically
look like this:

* Fulls are written to VTL, then to tape (D2D2T). The physical tapes
are then sent offsite for whatever the retention period is.
* Differential-Incremental and Cumulative-Incrementals are written to
the VTL, but then they sit there for maybe 2-4 weeks. They are never
written to tape, and therefore never sent offsite.

On one hand, I kinda understand the logic here. If the definition of
Differential-Incremental and Cumulative-Incrementals is essentially
differing levels of backups since the last full, it wouldn't make
sense to write incrementals out to tape since next week's Full starts
the process over again.

However, in the SLA I have with my customers, I state that I can
recover data from any point within a 90 day window. While the chance
is slim, there's always that possibility that I get a restore request
to recover a file from 89 days ago. If I'm only sending full backups
off site, I'd be able to recover the full backup, but I wouldn't have
any incrementals to restore that file to the exact point in time my
customer needs.

So, I guess my question is:

How does everyone else handle incrementals? Do you send them offsite
with the Fulls, or do you just have Fulls go offsite and keep
incrementals onsite for X retention period?

Thank you.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Does netbackup the 5.1 client agentbackup(oracle/sql) works with 6.53 master /media ?

2009-10-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
It's been a while but it seems to me that once we went to 6.5 on the
master we had to upgrade the clients that were running the Oracle to
make RMAN backups work reliably.  We also had to update the media
servers.  For standard OS clients we were still able to do the backups
from 5.1 so it appears the agents need to be upgraded.  This included
backups of filesystems containing oracle data (BCV copies) so it was
only RMAN that seemed to care.

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Does netbackup the 5.1 client
agentbackup(oracle/sql) works with 6.53 master /media ?

 

Hi

 

I am running in an environment which is using a 6.5.3 master and media
servers with some 5.1 clients and for a while everything as fine.  Out
of the blue we start experiencing problems with database agents and
system_state.  On upgrading to 6.5.3 all the problems disappeared.  The
type of errors 14, 13, 40, 41.  Also 5.1 unpatched was not the best
version on the planet!

 

Fiona

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Does netbackup the 5.1 client agent
backup(oracle/sql) works with 6.53 master /media ?


Hi, 

Just want to know your if any one out there who are successfully running
netbackup clients in 5.1 version (including the Oracle, SAp  SQL) agent
backups. 
in 653 master/media environemnt 

Because we tried to upgrade our environment 
one Master  server (solaris 9)  
Two  media server (solaris 9) to 653  rest of the media server in 5.1
mixed mode including clients. 

After the upgrade we ran the test backup of the Oracle /sql agent backup
 filesystem backup was running fine.  suddently after an hour all the
agent backup started to fail with error code 54, when we try to run many
jobs. We tried to fix it but not successful,  so we rolled back to 5.1
now  all works fine. 

Is this an know bug (or) is there a config/tuning that we are missing?
Any help is appreciated. 

Regards, 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Adding a DataDomain VTL need advice

2009-10-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
Make sure you understand that fibre for the Data Domain is an add on so
costs extra.  In our planning we were going to do fibre but didn't order
the add on so ended up having to do GigE with NFS mounts instead.   To
get throughput we wanted we had to work on doing network aggregation.   

 

Having said all that the Data Domains work pretty much as advertised and
the high compression/deduplication numbers are a reality.

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour,
Wayne
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:32 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Adding a DataDomain VTL need advice

 

All 

Our environment HP-UX 11.31 a SureStore 20/700 library with 10 LTO-1
drives, NetBackup 6.5.2 Master / Media server and one Windows Media
server using SSO. 

We are looking at purchasing a Data Domain device, eliminating the
SureStore library as it is at its end of life and replacing it with a
smaller library.  We have no experience with a VTL or what pitfalls or
things to look out for while setting up the new environment.  Any advice
on where to look to gather info, or experiences of what to look out for?
Thanks in advance.

 

Wayne BeDour

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Command line question

2009-09-25 Thread Jeff Lightner
Nice link - wonder why they haven't updated it for 5 or 6.

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel
Otto
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:04 AM
To: sm...@peppas.gr; Ed Wilts; Victor Engle
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Command line question

 

 

The command line equivalents for running the NetBackup reports available
in the NetBackup user interface

http://support.veritas.com/docs/247902

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of smpt
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:15 AM
To: 'Ed Wilts'; 'Victor Engle'
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Command line question

 

I think that he can start with 

bperror.exe -backstat -hoursago HourToCheck -client client_name

bperror.exe -backstat -d mm/dd/ HH:MM:SS -e mm/dd/ HH:MM:SS

 

Or if this is not good, to install NOM. If nom does not cover his need
then he must check for commercial software like Aptare or backup
reporter

 

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:31 AM
To: Victor Engle
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Command line question

 

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Victor Engle victor.en...@gmail.com
wrote:

Is there a command  to get a backup a backup history for a specific
client over a specific time frame?


It really depends on the level of detail you want.

Your best general purpose bet is something like Aptare StorageConsole
since it keeps a record of every backup job and the directives for those
jobs.  So if your DBA asks when /ora_backup was backed up, how much data
was in those backups, were they fulls or incrementals, and what were the
final status codes, you can answer that question.

There are various native NetBackup commands that help, but it really
depends on how detailed you want the answer to be and what time period
you're asking about.  The native tools won't answer the question I
listed above for data that's beyond the retention level of the active
job details which is typically less than a week.

If you're dealing with compliance issues and need evidence of backups,
you're going to have to deal with a commercial reporting product.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Extending Media Expiration

2009-09-25 Thread Jeff Lightner
Suspend wouldn't prevent expiration though it would prevent use of the
tape.

 

Also you shouldn't change expiration on the tape but rather the image
you're interested in.  

 

To determine images for a specific policy in a given date/time range:

bpimmedia -L -policy policyd -d MM/DD/CCYY HH:MM:SS -e MM/DD/CCYY
HH:MM:SS

 

You'll see backup IDs in the output (typically in form
hostname_numericid).   For each of the backup IDs

bpexpdate -backupid backupID -d infinity 

(add -copy 2 to end if you're just wanting to do this for your offsite
duplicates).

 

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Snyder,
Nicholas A (IS)
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:33 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Extending Media Expiration

 

Greetings-

I have a couple of backup images currently on tape set to expire soon.
I'd like to prevent NetBackup from expiring this media/backup images as
scheduled.  I'll need to restore from the tape, and I thought that
preventing the tape/images from expiring would be easier than importing
upon receiving the tape back onsite.

I've tried to suspend the media, but received the following error:

Operation to suspend media failed:

31: the media is allocated for use(199)

I've also attempted to extend the expiration date on the media with the
following:

bpexpdate.exe -m 31 -d 09/25/2009 23:59:59

Are you SURE you want to change 31

To expire on 9/25/2009 11:59:59 PM y/n (n)? y

Requested media id is in use, cannot process request

Is the only solution to import the tape back into NetBackup upon
physical receipt (after images have expired)?

Thanks!

Nick Snyder

Northrop Grumman

Systems Administrator

937-429-6415

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Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after tape vaulted

2009-09-23 Thread Jeff Lightner
Since you know the completion time and elapsed time from the RMAN output
you could figure it out by doing:

 

bpimmedia -L -policy policy -d 06/14/2009 017:00:00 -e 04/27/2008
18:30:00

 

The end time (-e) is the one shown for completion (padded a little) and
the start time (-d)  is subtracting the hour and three minutes from that
end time (and padding a little).   This will show you the backup IDs and
the image 1 and image 2 data.  The image 2 data is the vaulted tapes.
This would show you only the image 2 tapes if the image 1 tapes had
already expired.   Some people keep a longer retention on offsite than
on site.

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jared
Still
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:12 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after tape
vaulted

 

When determining which tapes to recall from offsite, RMAN provides the

RESTORE DATABASE PREVIEW RECALL syntax to identify the needed tapes.

 

Here's an example:

 

RMAN RUN

2 {

3 set until time to_date('06/17/2009 08:00:00','mm/dd/
hh24:mi:ss');

4 restore database preview recall;

5 }

executing command: SET until clause

 

Starting restore at 09/22/2009 11:15:21

...

List of Backup Sets

===

 

BS Key  Type LV Size   Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time

---  -- -- ---  ---

2070190 Incr 0  89.78G SBT_TAPE01:03:42 06/14/2009 18:20:43

BP Key: 2070201   Status: AVAILABLE  Compressed: NO  Tag:
TAG20090614T180051

Handle: PRD_T20090614_db_s21827_p1_t689536853   Media: 002774

  List of Datafiles in backup set 2070190

  File LV Type Ckp SCNCkp TimeName

   --  -- --- 

  24   0  Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59
S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA10\BTABD_60\BTABD.DATA60

  37   0  Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59
S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA2\SOURCED_1\SOURCED.DATA1

  48   0  Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59
S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA13\ES700I_1\ES700I.DATA1

 

Notice the Media ID of 002774.  So far, so good.

 

The problem occurs when working with media that has been vaulted.

 

What occurs then is the the images on 002774 are copied to a new tape
with a different Media ID.

Let's say in this case the vaulted tape has a Media ID of 003500

 

So tape 003500 goes offsite, and tape 002774 is put back in the scratch
pool and reused.

 

At this point the RECALL PREVIEW is reporting the incorrect Media ID,
because

RMAN has no knowledge of the tape vaulting.

 

This brings up some questions I have not been able to find answers to.

 

1) What NBU command can be used to correlate the old Media ID to the new
Media ID?

I have examined and tried bpimmedia, bpimagelist and vmquery. No joy.

 

2) I believe the (unpublished) RMAN SBT API has routines to allow the
media

ID to be updated in the catalog in the event a tape is copied to a new
one which

is moved offsite.  Does anyone know where the docs are regarding this (
I have 

looked), and if Veritas makes use of it. I have looked at the CROSSCHECK
and

CHANGE RMAN commands, but didn't see anything relevant.

 

That doesn't mean it wasn't there however, I just could have missed it.

 

The whole point of this post is to learn how to use the information
provided by

RMAN to request the correct tapes to be returned from offsite, given a
date

and time to restore to.

 

Please don't suggest requesting a date range of tapes. We are already
doing

that, and it is crude and time consuming.

 

Thanks,


Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist
Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com
Home Page: http://jaredstill.com
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after tape vaulted

2009-09-23 Thread Jeff Lightner
Well you could use bpimmedia to extract the backup ID for the tape and
then use that to find all tapes with that ID but that would be even more
of a kluge.  Also it would have the downside of not working if the
primary copy had already expired while the offsite was still valid.

 

If you're saying RMAN isn't that good at keeping track of things I'd
have to say I agree but that's something the Oracle folks should
address.

 



From: Jared Still [mailto:jkst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:30 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after
tape vaulted

 

That's what we're doing now, but it seems rather kludgy to me.

 

It should be possible to exactly correlate the Media ID's.


Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist
Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com
Home Page: http://jaredstill.com




On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Jeff Lightner jlight...@water.com
wrote:

Since you know the completion time and elapsed time from the RMAN output
you could figure it out by doing:

 

bpimmedia -L -policy policy -d 06/14/2009 017:00:00 -e 04/27/2008
18:30:00

 

The end time (-e) is the one shown for completion (padded a little) and
the start time (-d)  is subtracting the hour and three minutes from that
end time (and padding a little).   This will show you the backup IDs and
the image 1 and image 2 data.  The image 2 data is the vaulted tapes.
This would show you only the image 2 tapes if the image 1 tapes had
already expired.   Some people keep a longer retention on offsite than
on site.

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jared
Still
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:12 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after tape
vaulted

 

When determining which tapes to recall from offsite, RMAN provides the

RESTORE DATABASE PREVIEW RECALL syntax to identify the needed tapes.

 

Here's an example:

 

RMAN RUN

2 {

3 set until time to_date('06/17/2009 08:00:00','mm/dd/
hh24:mi:ss');

4 restore database preview recall;

5 }

executing command: SET until clause

 

Starting restore at 09/22/2009 11:15:21

...

List of Backup Sets

===

 

BS Key  Type LV Size   Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time

---  -- -- ---  ---

2070190 Incr 0  89.78G SBT_TAPE01:03:42 06/14/2009 18:20:43

BP Key: 2070201   Status: AVAILABLE  Compressed: NO  Tag:
TAG20090614T180051

Handle: PRD_T20090614_db_s21827_p1_t689536853   Media: 002774

  List of Datafiles in backup set 2070190

  File LV Type Ckp SCNCkp TimeName

   --  -- --- 

  24   0  Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59
S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA10\BTABD_60\BTABD.DATA60

  37   0  Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59
S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA2\SOURCED_1\SOURCED.DATA1

  48   0  Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59
S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA13\ES700I_1\ES700I.DATA1

 

Notice the Media ID of 002774.  So far, so good.

 

The problem occurs when working with media that has been vaulted.

 

What occurs then is the the images on 002774 are copied to a new tape
with a different Media ID.

Let's say in this case the vaulted tape has a Media ID of 003500

 

So tape 003500 goes offsite, and tape 002774 is put back in the scratch
pool and reused.

 

At this point the RECALL PREVIEW is reporting the incorrect Media ID,
because

RMAN has no knowledge of the tape vaulting.

 

This brings up some questions I have not been able to find answers to.

 

1) What NBU command can be used to correlate the old Media ID to the new
Media ID?

I have examined and tried bpimmedia, bpimagelist and vmquery. No joy.

 

2) I believe the (unpublished) RMAN SBT API has routines to allow the
media

ID to be updated in the catalog in the event a tape is copied to a new
one which

is moved offsite.  Does anyone know where the docs are regarding this (
I have 

looked), and if Veritas makes use of it. I have looked at the CROSSCHECK
and

CHANGE RMAN commands, but didn't see anything relevant.

 

That doesn't mean it wasn't there however, I just could have missed it.

 

The whole point of this post is to learn how to use the information
provided by

RMAN to request the correct tapes to be returned from offsite, given a
date

and time to restore to.

 

Please don't suggest requesting a date range of tapes. We are already
doing

that, and it is crude and time consuming.

 

Thanks,


Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist
Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com
Home Page: http://jaredstill.com

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 installation in Red Hat 6.5

2009-09-22 Thread Jeff Lightner
First you need to learn to distinguish what you're running from a Linux
standpoint.  Typically you can determine the Distro and version by
typing cat /etc/issue and on Fedora/RedHat/CentOS you can type cat
/etc/redhat-release.   

You also need to run uname -a as it will tell you the version of Linux
kernel you are running and included architecture information.

IA64 = Itanium - A special 64 bit chip from Intel - This is NOT the same
as x86_64.
x86_64 = 64 bit x86 compatible chip (Intel or AMD).  
i386 (or i686) = 32 bit x86 compatible chip (Intel or AMD).

You can run i386 and i686 packages on x86_64 but would be restricted to
32 bit mode on such packages.  It isn't unusual to have both i386 and
x86_64 packages on a 64 bit machine.

You can NOT run IA64 on either x86_64 or i386.  It must be run on IA64.

You should advise the vendor to quit sending you crap such as the IA64
package you don't need and send you something designed for the
architecture (x86_64) you're running OR tell you how to install the i386
package if it is the only one available for your architecture.

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
naymyotun
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:48 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 installation in Red Hat 6.5


Thx. I managed to install the required the ICS package now. But when I
try to install the package  NetBackup_6.5_LinuxRedhat2.6.tar.gz
according to my vendor suggestion, I encounter the following error 
NetBackup server software for the linuxR_x86 platform is not on this
cdrom. . 

Currently the installation server is running on  Linux NBU
2.6.18-92.el5 #1 SMP Tue Apr 29 13:16:15 EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
GNU/Linux . I downloaded this package from
https://www4.symantec.com/Vrt/vrtcontroller#  .  I  also download
NetBackup_6.5_LinuxIA64.tar.gz and try install but the same error
receive again. 

But  I can't see any package related to X86 for the redhat linux in this
https://www4.symantec.com/Vrt/vrtcontroller#  link to install the NBU
6.5 installation.
But i managed to install this  NetBackup_6.5_LinuxRedhat2.6.tar.gz on
i386 machine. 
Pls.advise.





James Pattinson wrote:
 It's true, you do need to install this library and it's documented in 
 the release notes. If you have yum configured you can use yum to
install 
 the lib.
 
 naymyotun wrote:
 
  Hi Guru,
  I m a netbackup beginner. I just received three packages from my
vendor to install the netbackup 6.5 on my redhat 5 development server.
  ( 1 )NetBackup_6.5_LinuxRedhat2.6.tar.gz 
  ( 2 )NetBackup_6.5_ICS_LinuxX86.tar.gz
  ( 3 )NetBackup_6.5_CLIENTS2.tar.gz 
  
  First of all , I install the package 1 and i got the following error
message.
  
  CPI ERROR V-9-0-0 The 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' compatibility
library must
  be installed before you can install the VRTSpbx package.  You can
install
  the 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' library by installing the 'compat'
RPM, which
  you can find on the SuSE OS installation media or on the download
section of
  the SuSE/Novell Web site.
  The following systems do not have this library installed:
  localhost
  installics log files are saved at
/opt/VRTS/install/logs/installics-LBhDYy
  
  
  The ICS install for VRTSpbx was unsuccessful.
  Quitting the NetBackup install.
  
  I tried installing the package 2 using the  different terminal and I
received the same error message.
  
  Task Menu:
  
  I) Install/Upgrade a Product  C) Configure an Installed Product
  L) License a Product  P) Perform a Pre-Installation Check
  U) Uninstall a ProductD) View a Product Description
  Q) Quit   ?) Help
  
  Enter a Task: [I,C,L,P,U,D,Q,?] I
  
  Symantec Infrastructure Core Services Installer 5.0
  
  1)  Symantec Private Branch Exchange
  2)  Symantec Product Authentication Service
  3)  Symantec Product Authorization Service
  b)  Back to previous menu
  
  Select a product to install: [1-3,b,q] 1
  Enter the system names separated by spaces on which to install PBX:
nay
  
  Initial system check:
  
  Checking PBX installation on localhost not
installed
  
  
  Symantec Infrastructure Core Services Installer 5.0
  
  Checking installed rpms on localhost
  
  CPI ERROR V-9-0-0 The 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' compatibility
library must
  be installed before you can install the VRTSpbx package.  You can
install
  the 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' library by installing the 'compat'
RPM, which
  you can find on the SuSE OS installation media or on the download
section of
  the SuSE/Novell Web site.
  The following systems do not have this library installed:
  localhost
  installics log files are saved at
/opt/VRTS/install/logs/installics-kxi6WZ
  
  
  
  If you want to install, configure or manage another application,
type Y to continue...
  
  But I checked on the  netbackup 6.5 UNIX installation guide and

Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape drive monitoring?

2009-09-15 Thread Jeff Lightner
We've used this little perl script for years and run it from NRPE plugin for 
our Nagios monitoring system.   It doesn't require NPRE/Nagios though.

#!/usr/bin/perl
#
##
# 122002jda
# This script checks the current state of the L700 tape drives
##

# Variable 
initialization--- #
$STATE_OK = 0;
$STATE_WARNING = 1;
$STATE_CRITICAL = 2;
$STATE_UNKNOWN = 3;

$ENV{'PATH'}=;
$ENV{'ENV'}=;
$ENV{'BASH_ENV'}=;
# Execute the system 
cmds--- #
$OUT = /tmp/$$vmoprcmd$$.out;
$list = qx(/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/tpconfig -dl  $OUT);

open(LST,$OUT) || die Couldn't open $OUT.\n;
  while(LST) {
   @format = split(/\s+/,$_);
if ($format[2] eq Name) {
$DriveName = $format[3];
}
if ($format[1] eq Index) {
$DriveIndex = $format[2];
}
if ($format[2] eq DOWN) {
print Drivename: $DriveName DriveIndex: $DriveIndex Is DOWN\n;
$clean = qx(/usr/bin/rm $OUT);
exit $STATE_CRITICAL;
}
   }
close LST;
$clean = qx(/usr/bin/rm $OUT);
print Drive Status OK\n;
exit $STATE_OK;

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Carlos Alberto 
Lima dos Santos
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:24 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape drive monitoring?


 look the command vmoprcmd on NetBackup command guide.



Carlos Alberto L. dos Santos (TOCA)
Eng. de Computação - Puc-Campinas(SP) - Brasil
carlos_lis...@yahoo.com.br



--- Em seg, 14/9/09, Gravizi, Thomas thomas_grav...@steris.com escreveu:

 De: Gravizi, Thomas thomas_grav...@steris.com
 Assunto: [Veritas-bu] Tape drive monitoring?
 Para: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
 Data: Segunda-feira, 14 de Setembro de 2009, 17:22
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 Greetings all, 
 

 
 We are currently running NBU 6.5.3 on Solaris
 10, and experienced
 an issue where all of our tape drives on our StorageTek
 L700 went into AVR mode
 this past weekend.  Can someone give me some insight on
 how I can monitor the
 tape drives to notify me when this happens again?  Are
 there scripts out there
 which I can use, or something in NBU which I can
 enable? 
 

 
 Thanks, 
 

 
 Thomas Gravizi 
 
 UNIX Systems Administrator 
 
 Enterprise Operations 
 
 STERIS Corporation - Mentor, OH 
 
 thomas_grav...@steris.com
 
 
 440.392.7630 - phone 
 
 440.350.7078 - fax 
 
   
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 installation in Red Hat 6.5

2009-09-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
Why does a bundle intended for RedHat would have comments about Suse?

Anyway what you need is the compat-libstdc++-296 package.  (Note that in
this name the 296 is actually part of the package name rather than the
version - there will be version information after the package name.)
You can install by doing yum install compat-libstdc++-296.

Also note if you don't already have xinetd installed you should install
it BEFORE you install NetBackup.  The installer is brain dead and
assumes you have inetd if it doesn't find xinetd which is not the case.
If you've already installed NetBackup you should delete it and reinstall
after removing the /etc/inetd.conf file it made.

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of James
Pattinson
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 5:39 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 installation in Red Hat 6.5

It's true, you do need to install this library and it's documented in 
the release notes. If you have yum configured you can use yum to install

the lib.

naymyotun wrote:
 Hi Guru,
 I m a netbackup beginner. I just received three packages from my
vendor to install the netbackup 6.5 on my redhat 5 development server.
 ( 1 )NetBackup_6.5_LinuxRedhat2.6.tar.gz 
 ( 2 )NetBackup_6.5_ICS_LinuxX86.tar.gz
 ( 3 )NetBackup_6.5_CLIENTS2.tar.gz 

 First of all , I install the package 1 and i got the following error
message.

 CPI ERROR V-9-0-0 The 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' compatibility
library must
 be installed before you can install the VRTSpbx package.  You can
install
 the 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' library by installing the 'compat' RPM,
which
 you can find on the SuSE OS installation media or on the download
section of
 the SuSE/Novell Web site.
 The following systems do not have this library installed:
 localhost
 installics log files are saved at
/opt/VRTS/install/logs/installics-LBhDYy


 The ICS install for VRTSpbx was unsuccessful.
 Quitting the NetBackup install.

 I tried installing the package 2 using the  different terminal and I
received the same error message.

 Task Menu:

 I) Install/Upgrade a Product  C) Configure an Installed Product
 L) License a Product  P) Perform a Pre-Installation Check
 U) Uninstall a ProductD) View a Product Description
 Q) Quit   ?) Help

 Enter a Task: [I,C,L,P,U,D,Q,?] I

   Symantec Infrastructure Core Services Installer 5.0

  1)  Symantec Private Branch Exchange
  2)  Symantec Product Authentication Service
  3)  Symantec Product Authorization Service
  b)  Back to previous menu

 Select a product to install: [1-3,b,q] 1
 Enter the system names separated by spaces on which to install PBX:
nay

 Initial system check:

 Checking PBX installation on localhost not
installed


   Symantec Infrastructure Core Services Installer 5.0

 Checking installed rpms on localhost

 CPI ERROR V-9-0-0 The 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' compatibility library
must
 be installed before you can install the VRTSpbx package.  You can
install
 the 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' library by installing the 'compat' RPM,
which
 you can find on the SuSE OS installation media or on the download
section of
 the SuSE/Novell Web site.
 The following systems do not have this library installed:
 localhost
 installics log files are saved at
/opt/VRTS/install/logs/installics-kxi6WZ

  

 If you want to install, configure or manage another application, type
Y to continue...

 But I checked on the  netbackup 6.5 UNIX installation guide and there
is not step to install this  CPI ERROR V-9-0-0 The
'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' compatibility library  .   I believe there
is something wrong in my installation. Pls. help to advise.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Frozen Tapes

2009-09-03 Thread Jeff Lightner
I concur - I've seen more frozen tapes due to drive/robot failures than
due to any intrinsic fault in the tape itself.

Also when we DO destroy a tape because we suspect or know it is bad it
is only AFTER all the images on it have expired.  Remember that there
might have been images on the tape before the time it got frozen.  There
are forensic ways of getting data off of old tapes if it becomes
critical.

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:02 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Frozen Tapes

Not to be a prude, but I don't concur with simply destroying any tape
that ever gets an error. 10 minutes of troubleshooting isn't going to
kill you and I would add to your troubleshooting list to check the
problems report for more information. I've had media frozen because of
robotic / tape mount errors, scsi hba conflicts, lack of cleaning and
occasionally a bad write.  Back in the DLT tape days I saw write errors
all the time, but since our switch to LTO3 Media I've only had 5 or so
go bad, and that's with me shipping media all over the world and
supporting 15+ remote sites.

-Jonathan 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Frozen Tapes

 1) NetBackup detects Non-NetBackup data format [...]
 
 2) NetBackup detects that [it is a catalog tape...]
 
 3) NetBackup tried to read/write to the tape and [got write or 
 positioning errors...]

... if the barcode and recorded mediaID don't match...  if the tape
winds up in the wrong drive, ...

 Assuming I'm correct so far, then is the proper method of 
 troubleshooting Frozen media to:
 
 1) Ensure there isn't some catalog data on the tape.
 
 2) Ensure that the tapes aren't from some other commercial backup 
 product environment's tape pool (for those of you running multiple 
 commercial backup applications at a single site).
 
 3) Make sure your tape drives have been cleaned recently.

No matter what the reason, it should be in the logs; IMO, that should
always be your first troubleshooting step:  find out why it was frozen
and go from there.  Special mention to:

 4) Use bpmedia -m media id -unfreeze to unfreeze the tape(s), make a

 note of the tape you're unfreezing, and leave it in the scratch pool 
 to see if it gets used for tonight's backups.

No.

Either toss it immediately, or, if you _must_ try to re-use it or do
root-cause, put it in the None pool until you can thoroughly test it
end-to-end error-free.  But even if it passes, how much of your time
does it take to exceed the cost of a replacement tape?  How much
time/money will you spend rerunning a backup that fails on that tape
again?  How much time/money/resume' will you spend if you cannot recover
a backup from that tape when you need it.  (I see Simon has commented on
this and I concur.)

 Now for my question: Assuming I was correct on my selection criteria 
 and my troubleshooting steps, am I correct in saying that if I came in

 tomorrow and that media from step 4 was frozen a second time, that it 
 indicates that the media is more than likely defective? Is there any 
 other troubleshooting steps anyone would care to add?

Kudos for doing the research you show above.  But why did you list all
those causes but not look in the logs to see which one caused the error
and address it directly?  

If it's a media-overwrite that you haven't allowed, there's no point in
re-running; it'll still be ANSI or whatever.  Then, why do you have
tapes in inventory that you must preserve but rely on a method that's
only a mouse-click away from causing someone a disaster
becomes a critical question.

If it was media errors, NetBackup already made the educated guess of
whether it was drive or media (see the manual), and that'll show up in
the logs.  

If it was a cold-catalog-backup tape, that's in the logs but why/how did
it get put into a scratch or data pool?


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Re: [Veritas-bu] bplist -l modification time

2009-08-21 Thread Jeff Lightner
It gives a warning that the file changed between the time it was
selected for backup and the time it actually backs up.  Since the
initial listing is only a list it can't back that up - it has to backup
the actual file as it is when it gets to it.

 



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Netbackup 6.5 UNIX: If large file is being backed up, and it is modified
before the backup completes, what info will the 'bplist -l' command show
for that file:  From the file as it looked when the backup started, or
when the backup completed?
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Transition from LTO1 to LTO4

2009-08-20 Thread Jeff Lightner
I imagine for the same reasons they bought the new library in the first
place (e.g. age of library, support/parts etc...) plus the added reason
that it takes up floor space in the data center.  Data center managers
often frown upon keeping old equipment just in case especially if
there isn't a lot of free space anyway.

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Why not keep your old library for historical restores and put in your
new LTO-4 library for current and future backups/restores? Would be
easier and less trouble over time.  [Wink]

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Change server list on windows clients.

2009-08-13 Thread Jeff Lightner
Not sure if this works for Windows media servers but you can go into the
Java GUI for master and select Media Servers.  In there select all the
hosts, wait for it to populate OS etc... then right click and select
Properties and make your changes there.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Change server list on windows clients.

I'm afraid I'm rather UNIX-centric.  

I've recently inherited a large number of windows client that need
updates to the media servers that they'll talk to.  Since windows
doesn't use a 'bp.conf' file like UNIX, is there some way of scripting
an update to the list?  Right now I'm having to do it by hand, logging
into each one.  Right now none of the members of the existing list can
communicate with the clients (isolated network).  So whatever I'm going
to do will have to be local.

I'm guessing there's not a single file with this information, but maybe
a registry setting or something?

Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] nbemmcmd hung

2009-08-11 Thread Jeff Lightner
Is it just this command or everything?   I've noticed when a catalog
backup is in progress everything else seems to be hung until it
finishes.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] nbemmcmd hung

 

I tried Googling and looking at STN but I cannot find the answer. What
steps need to be taken when nbemmcmd is hung. I can't believe you need
to shut everything down and reboot!

 

Regards,

 

Patrick Whelan

VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.

VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows.

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] (1M) in Veritas Unix Commands

2009-07-01 Thread Jeff Lightner
These are indications of UNIX/Linux man (manual) pages.  The (1M) and
the (1) are sections of man.  Typically 1 = User commands and 1M =
administrative commands.  However, it is somewhat arbitrary as to who
defines what as what.  For me most NetBackup commands are
administrative as we don't have users doing things with it.

The NetBackup specific man pages are usually in your install directory
(mine is /usr/openv) so would be:
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies/man
/usr/openv/man
/usr/openv/java/man

If you do ls in each of those directories you can see which man pages
each contains.

You can add those directories to your MANPATH variable to be able to
read the man pages:
e.g.
export
MANPTH=$MANPTH:/usr/openv/man:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies/man:/usr/
openv/java/man

That allows you to type man bp for example and read its man page.

For more details type man man as the man command itself has a man
page.


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HI,

I could find a Attribute like (1M), (1) in the commands of VERITAS UNIX.

What does it mean?

Ex: backuptrace(1M), bp(1)

Thanks,
Karthikeyan Sundaram.

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:08:22 -0500
From: Cris Rhea cr...@mayo.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 2 Masters and only 1 tape library - DR
Exercise
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 You're not going to do it without partitioning the library.  Hints in
 another thread suggest it might be possible by using a another
software
 package as an interface but stock Netbackup will limit you to having a
 library connected to one, and only one, master server.
 
 The Master Server holds your volume database, you can't have a tape in
 more than one volume database.

I suppose it revolves around how one defines partitioning the library:
Hard partitions or soft (by tape label ranges).

We have a Sun/STK SL8500 with ACSLS as the front end and have several
(unrelated) Netback Master servers (and media servers) all using the 
library concurrently.

We have not hard partitioned it, but rather have a tape range and
specific
tape drives assigned to each Netbackup system. We even have several 
non-Netbackup systems also using the library.

--- Cris

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:38:04 -0600
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 2 Masters and only 1 tape library - DR
Exercise
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ACSLS, though, would fall into the category of using another software
package as an interface.  I suspected ACSLS could do that but didn't
want volunteer that since I don't have 

Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO Option for LTO3 drives

2009-07-01 Thread Jeff Lightner
Another vote for SSO. 

Whoever dedicated the 2 drives per server doesn't understand SSO.  The
person that suggested they were conservative was being too kind.  The
adjectives I would use for them would suggest they rode the short bus to
school.

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mdonaldson wrote:
 
 This isn't the case.  SSO is used to share a single tape drive among
 multiple media servers. It's the sharing  locking mechanism for
device
 sharing.  I could have zoned my 20 drives, one each, to my 19 media
 servers and not needed SSO.  What Judy describes is right, though, if
I
 lose the drive zoned to that server, it's not doing backups until that
 drive is repaired.
 
 If you've got SSO licensed, I suggest zoning all tape drives to all
 media servers (careful - you have to name them correctly via tpconfig
or
 it doesn't work right).  You can them limit the number of drives used
by
 each media server when the backup occurs via the max-drives setting I
 the storage unit (as Judy also said).
 
 -M
 
 


What you mentioned is correct I sell SSO to my customer too

In his scenario, suggest to review the whole backup infra, the Share
Storage Option is not cheap and do not waste money to purchase if no
requirement.

Review the infra specially with the resources of the tape drives, then
review your backup window. I believe there might be alot of redunacy.

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[Veritas-bu] Vaulting broken in 6.5.4?

2009-06-29 Thread Jeff Lightner
We upgraded to 6.5.4 on Friday and ran a test vault session.  We killed
it because it  was finding images but was not duplicating them properly
on the proper hosts   My coworker will be calling following up with
support this morning but I'm wondering if anyone else has run into this
and already resolved it?
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site

2009-06-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
6.5.4 64 bit sounds like someone is stuttering...

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
Spearman, David
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:40 PM
To: 'Cornely, David'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site

 

One of the more interesting things is when I went to load up 6.5.4 linux
client update it immediately told me I had to have the nb_jav_654 update
available also. Annoying. Once it's there all you have to do is the
client update and it automagically sucks in the java update.

 

David Spearman

County of Henrico

 

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David
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site

 

Nice, 64-bit Java console for Windows here we come.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:29
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); Ed Wilts;
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site

 

Well, the post-FA surey email came out today, so it'd stand to reason
they're rolling to GA...

 

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Radian Group Inc, Senior Systems Engineer

gabriel.rosenkoet...@radian.biz, 215 231 1556

 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:13 AM
To: Ed Wilts; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site

 

Ed

So far, nowt on the Symantec site saying its there

 

Simon

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site

It's popping up...

Logged in to ftp.support.veritas.com.
Current remote directory is
/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server.
ncftp ...ckup_Enterprise_Server  ls -ltr *6.5.4*
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024 12798596   Apr 21 13:59
6.5.4.1_nbccr_319461.zip
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024 11791214   Apr 28 14:45
6.5.4.1_nbcc_319395.zip
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024211869696   Jun 15 07:03
NB_6.5.4.alpha_5_326368.tar
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024253613056   Jun 15 07:37
NB_6.5.4.hp_ux_326369.tar
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024404925440   Jun 15 08:21
NB_6.5.4.hpia64_326370.tar
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024123961344   Jun 15 08:41
NB_6.5.4.linux_326371.tar
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024136454144   Jun 15 08:57
NB_6.5.4.linuxR_ia64_326372.tar
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024113578496   Jun 15 09:11
NB_6.5.4.linuxR_x86_326374.tar
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024126826496   Jun 15 09:25
NB_6.5.4.linuxS_ia64_326375.tar
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024107639296   Jun 15 09:38
NB_6.5.4.linuxS_x86_326376.tar
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024538456576   Jun 15 10:30
NB_6.5.4.rs6000_326379.tar
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024132346368   Jun 15 11:11
NB_6.5.4.solaris_326381.tar
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024131038208   Jun 15 11:31
NB_6.5.4.solaris_x86_326382.tar
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024235464192   Jun 15 11:59
NB_6.5.4.winnt.IA64_326383.exe
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024199543808   Jun 15 12:23
NB_6.5.4.winnt.x64_326384.exe
-rw-r--r--  1 30024  30024208142336   Jun 15 12:46
NB_6.5.4.winnt.x86_326385.exe

I expect that there are still quite a few packages to go so be patient a
little longer...

.../Ed 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup all files in a folder but not any subfolders

2009-06-11 Thread Jeff Lightner
Or to restate that - you can have multiple exclude lists - one for each
policy on the client.  

Just append the policy to the exclude.list its relevant for:

e.g.
POLICY SERVER-OS
POLICY SERVER-DB

In SERVER-DB you're backing all of /database/prodDB and all of
/oracle/prodDB without any excludes.

Since it has a separate policy then you set the OS policy exclude list
to exclude it (and possibly other things).  An example from one of my
Linux hosts:

exclude.list.SERVER-OS contents:

/proc
/sys
/database/prodDB
/oracle/prodDB
/mnt

In reality we create separate policies for all databases so the exclude
has /database/* and /oracle/* (we don't address other files in these
directories as there aren't supposed to be any as they are simply
supposed to be base directories for the DB specific directories.




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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup all files in a folder but not any
subfolders

Yes, they're on the client, but they can be limited to function on that
client for only one policy or policy  sched combo. 

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I think I am missing something here, aren't exclude lists client based
rather than policy based?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Client version

2009-06-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
It does for 6.0 versions...

 

Release

===

6.0.0.0.4.4

6.0.0.0.4.4

6.0.0.0.4.4

6.5.0

6.5.0

5.1.0

 

 

By the way - the formatting is slightly off due to long Linux OS Levels
(for my RHEL systems) and also the Release column was a bit short for
those 6.0 versions so I modified it as follows:

 

echo   Client  \t OS Level \t   Release

echo ==\t =\t ===

for c in `bpplclients -allunique -noheader | awk '{print $3}'`

do

  bpgetconfig -s $c -L | \

awk -F'=' '{if($1~/Client.OS/){os=$2}

if($1~/Client.Proto/){r=$2}}

END {printf(%-22s\t%-25s\t%s\n,'$c',os,r)} '

done

 

Nice script Mark.



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judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:19 AM
To: mark.donald...@staples.com; sreynol...@semprautilities.com;
ewi...@ewilts.org
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Client version

 

Note on Marks script, the command does not show the fourth position on
the version  6.5.3.1  all I am getting is 6.5.3.

 

Not that there is anything wrong with Marks script, its just that the
command does not show fourth position.

 



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Donaldson, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:52 AM
To: Reynolds, Susan K.; Ed Wilts
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Client version

 

A little late to this party but here's another version.

 

#!/bin/ksh

 

PATH=$PATH:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd

 

echo   Client \t OS Level \t Release
echo =\t =\t ===
for c in `bpplclients -allunique -noheader | awk '{print $3}'`
do
  bpgetconfig -s $c -L | \
awk -F'=' '{if($1~/Client.OS/){os=$2}
if($1~/Client.Proto/){r=$2}}
END {printf(%-22s\t%-18s\t%s\n,'$c',os,r)} '
done

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
Reynolds, Susan K.
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:12 PM
To: Ed Wilts
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Client version

Many thanks Ed.

 

From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 5:52 PM
To: Reynolds, Susan K.
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Client version

 

I posted this to the list a while back:

r...@osiris bin]# cat get-client-versions.sh
#!/bin/sh

# Loop through all clients gathering the client version info

PATH=$PATH:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd

export PATH

CLIENTS=/usr/openv/local/client-versions
OUT=/usr/openv/local/client-versions.csv

[ ! -d $CLIENTS ]  mkdir $CLIENTS

bpplclients -allunique -noheader | awk '{print $NF}' | \
while read client
do
  echo Client: $client
  bpgetconfig -s $client -L -A  $CLIENTS/$client
done

cd $CLIENTS
for f in *
do
  awk -f /usr/openv/local/bin/get-client-versions.awk $f
done  $OUT

[r...@osiris bin]# cat get-client-versions.awk
/Platform/ {PLATFORM = $5}
/Client OS/ {OS = $5}
/Patch/ {print FILENAME , $4 , OS , PLATFORM }

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Reynolds, Susan K.
sreynol...@semprautilities.com wrote:

Is there a quick command that can be run that will list the current
version of Netbackup for each client on the command line without having
to extract the information from the GUI or Administrative Console?

 

Just looking for a shortcut.

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 93 - DB is Down 6.5.3

2009-06-09 Thread Jeff Lightner
Whenever a cold catalog backup has kicked off it seems to stop all other
activity in NBU since 6.x.  I think it is normal albeit somewhat
disquieting when you don't expect it.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Status 93 - DB is Down 6.5.3

 

 

All 
re: Technote : http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/284164.htm
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/284164.htm  

I am getting this message, but ONLY when a Cold Catalog Backup of 6.5.3
is taking place!! 

Surely this is not normal? In 5.1 MP5, even if a Cold Catalog was taking
place, Restores were still possible. 

Could anyone clarify this please? I actually do have Hot Catalog Backups
configured to run. Never asked for Cold to take place...

Regards 

Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] In-File Delta Technology

2009-06-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
NetBackup is essentially doing file level backups rather than block level so it 
can't do the in file delta.   If you have a need for doing that then you should 
look at the data deduplication technology out there such as Data Domain, Avomar 
and others.   If you look through the archives you'll see a fair amount of 
discussion of these including a thread just a week or so ago.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] In-File Delta Technology

Hello everyone,

I'm still learning Netbackup (got around 1.5 years working with it) and I'm 
wondering... Is there a way to perform incremental backups using in-file 
delta technology (backup only changes within a file)?  I've seen a lot of 
features/options for Netbackup but I have never seen this...If indeed there 
isn't ...why isn't this type of ESSENTIAL technology part of Netbackup?

Just as an aside, I recently started backing up a server that runs MS Virtual 
Server that has around 9 guests...I back them up at night (obviously after 
shutting down the guests) and I know 5 of those 9 guests seldomly change but 
as you can imagine...because the timestamp on the virtual-hard-disks 
change ...they're backed up COMPLETELY.  The end result: I'm almost 
performing a FULL backup every day even though it's an incremental 
schedule   :(  

I'll appreciate your feedback. 

Thanks!

All the best,
Jorge

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Auditors here again, I've got a question....

2009-06-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
To see which media / backup IDs etc... were used for a given policy:

 

bpimmedia -L -policy policy  -d MM/DD/CCYY HH:MM:SS -e  MM/DD/CCYY
HH:MM:SS

 

Where policy is the policy used to do the backup, -d specifies the start
of the time range in which you're interested and -e specifies the end of
the time range.

 



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Wayne
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Auditors here again, I've got a question

 

Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 with a SureStore 20/700 tape library, one
master / media server running NetBackup 6.5.2 backing up mainly HP
servers with a few Sun and Windows boxes thrown in.  One NBU 6.5.2 SSO
media server running on windows.

 

Here is the scenario.  The auditors give me a date and a host which I
can relate to a backup policy.  From the date, they need me to verify
the backup ran, the bar code of the tape(s) written to and if the
tape(s) went offsite.  

 

Can anyone suggest the best command line commands to accomplish the
above?

 

Thanks in advance...

 

Wayne BeDour

Unix System Administrator

PH: 313-593-9876  

Internet:  wbed...@lear.com

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Restore to alternate vendor filer

2009-06-04 Thread Jeff Lightner
If NBU can be used to read NDMP backups can it be used to bpduplicate
them with the target being the new NDMP?

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We have the same situation  - we just kept a Celerra so that we could 
restore long-retention backups to it if required.  I guess that cannot
go 
on for ever as the tape drives will be obsolete and the data mover will 
break.

It depends on the value of the data.  If you are on 'best efforts' then 
you can try as suggested to decode the backup format, by copying the 
blocks from tape to disk and then having a look at them.  At least NDMP 
only writes 64k tape blocks, so that makes it easier to copy.  However
you 
may well have issues about metadata, and if your original share was a
dual 
CIFS/NFS share then you will almost certainly have problems, as there
will 
be ACL information from either NFS or CIFS that may get in your way.

The safe-but-slow way is to restore it to a Celerra (you didn't actually

get rid of it did you? ;-) ) and then just copy it (CIFS or NFS as 
required) to the NetApp, or indeed anywhere.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Restore to alternate vendor filer


Hello to all,

i have to restore NDMP backups (several TB) made from an EMC Celerra to
a 
Netapp filer. I know, this kind of restore is not supported by Netbackup

and  all other backup software vendors. It's an issue of all the
different 
vendor NDMP implementations. 
But, has someone found a practical solution for this ? Maybe with some 
third party products. 

Any hints are highly welcome

Thanks in advance
Roland

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Restore to alternate vendor filer

2009-06-04 Thread Jeff Lightner
Did you miss the thread I was replying to?

I was thinking out loud because someone wanted to transfer from a EMC
Celera to a NetApp filer.  It seemed one way to do it that would avoid
worrying about formats is to use NBU's duplication mechanisms to do the
transfer.

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On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:36:49AM -0400, Jeff Lightner wrote:
 If NBU can be used to read NDMP backups can it be used to bpduplicate
 them with the target being the new NDMP?

Duplication shouldn't be a problem.  You don't have to understand a
format to duplicate data.

I don't see why the target would be a different NDMP device.  It won't
help anything and should just slow things down.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar

2009-06-03 Thread Jeff Lightner
NetApp countered the offer by raising their bid to $30/share like EMC's.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D98J6CN03.htm


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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar

Also worthy of noting, EMC is making a run for Data Domain. They just
bid $1.7B for the company, outbidding NetApp by $300M. Makes me wonder
what EMC's plans are for Avamar.

--Steve



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar

I looked in a lot of detail last year at VTLs and disk backup solutions.

They all have pros and cons - a lot depends as someone else pointed out
on 
what you are trying to fit it into.

If you have to create long term retention tapes the Avamar has a real 
problem - it is not what it was designed to do, and anything EMC will 
offer at the moment is really ugly.  I'm sure they know that and will
try 
and fix it.  As pointed out, if you don't need that it is in principal 
really good for VM backup as it dedupes in the client, so you can have a

greater VM density on your ESX servers, with more storage and not run
out 
of physical LAN bandwidth off the ESX server.

We had a demo pair of these appliances, and had no problems doing what
it 
says it does.  We replicated transatlantically, and backed up clients 
elsewhere in Europe.  We wouldn't do that for production, it was just we

had the 2 demo units in different places.   Like all dedupe + replicate 
solutions, you just need to recall you buy in pairs at least.  So the 
entry cost is quite high if you are backing up a data centre.  They come

from the Remote Office background, where there a many small sites with 
modest data backing up to a central site.  There are nice features like 
you can restore from any replica, and there is none of the hierarchy of
a 
NetBackup domain.

Both Avamar and PureDisk come from the 'low end' and are moving into the

larger sites.  As pointed out, PureDisk *client* itself is not yet 
integrated with NetBackup scheduling - it sends data to the PureDisk 
appliance, and there is a capability to export to NetBackup to create
tape 
copies.  What tends to confuse is that same appliance can act as a Disk 
Pool for NetBackup, and then it is just another kind of Open Storage,
you 
use it in SLPs and whatever.  It can do optimised replication, NetBackup

catalog tracks all the copies.  There is a plug-in on the Media Server 
that does the deduplication - so you don't get the in-the-client dedupe
of 
Avamar, but if you position your media servers carefully you can still
do 
good things.  You use the normal NetBackup clients.

Both Avamar and PureDisk deduplicate across the whole appliance.

DataDomain support OST as well as offering straight NAS (as BasicDisk)
and 
also a VTL mode.  The issue we found was that a DD appliance could not
be 
accessed by multiple NetBackup domains, so you can't share them.  We 
wanted to put an appliance on Site A that took the local backups and 
replicated to Site B, and do the same in reverse.  No can do
(currently). 
We also wanted an existing Master on Site B to be able to import the 
replicated images from Site A, without interrupting replication, so we 
could do DR tests and the like. That is also an issue in some aspects.
DD 
deduplicates within a single unit, so a stack of 16 is...a stack of 16; 
you need to make sure backups from a particular client always go the
same 
appliance to get best dedupe.

PureDisk (strictly the PureDisk Deduplication Option, PDDO) with
NetBackup 
does allow the appliance to be used as a Disk Pool from multiple
domains. 
You would need to be a little careful about free space reporting but it 
worked fine in demo at Symantec.   We could also use SLPs or Vault to 
create tape copies as required, and as of 6.5.4 you can create the tape 
copy from the remote replica  (assuming you have a remote media server
to 
do it).

PureDisk is not a simple appliance you buy - you *can* buy ready-built 
from Sun - a little advertised fact - otherwise you get the DVD and the 
licence, and build it yourself on your favourite hardware and disk - so 
long as it is in all those compatibility matrices.

If you do want to end up on tape a VTL may make sense, with all the 
pretend tape drives and media.  I looked a lot at when and how the 
deduplication is done.  Quantum and all the FalconStor clones (like EMC)

store the backup initially at 'full strength' and then deduplicate that
to 
another set of disks.  They sell that gives you quick restore of the
most 
recent backup - but you do need a lot 

Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedicated B/U vlan setup questions

2009-06-03 Thread Jeff Lightner
We use HP-UX master for our 6.5.x install and backup many Windows
machines (along with HP-UX and Linux).

 

For backup VLAN we just have a separate NIC in both master and clients.
We modify hosts file on the master to add the NIC of the clients.   We
typically specify the client names as clientb and use that clientb name
in the policy instead of client.   On the clients we specify the backup
NIC of the master as the actual hostname of the master.This works
for most things.  

 

MS-SQL backups require use of the actual database names so that causes a
few wrinkles for those backups but for everything else it works
swimmingly.

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour,
Wayne
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:10 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Dedicated B/U vlan setup questions

 

Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 with a SureStore 20/700 tape library, one
master / media server running NetBackup 6.5.2 backing up mainly HP
servers with a few Sun and Windows boxes thrown in.  One NBU 6.5.2 SSO
media server running on windows. 

 

The majority of our backups are via direct connected bcv filesystems and
very few backups over the network.  We are looking at expanding our
NetBackup environment to include more windows servers and need to look
into setting up a dedicated backup vlan.  We looked at this back in the
NBU 3.1 days and ran into issues and dropped it.  Time to look into it
again, any advice / things to look out for / white papers / pointers /
or anything else that anyone can share or point me to?

Thanks in advance...

 

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Unix System Administrator

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Internet:  wbed...@lear.com

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] SCAN-TLD Randomly appearing on Master and MediaServers

2009-06-02 Thread Jeff Lightner
I thought in 6.x it didn't really matter which was the SCAN-HOST - that
is to say setting priority is no longer important?

 



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SCAN-TLD Randomly appearing on Master and
MediaServers

 

The first media server in an SSO environment that starts ltid becomes
the SCAN-HOST for all shared drives (status SCAN-TLD). If a drive is
DOWN'ed on the SCAN-HOST, another media server becomes the SCAN-HOST for
that drive. If services on SCAN-HOST is stopped/restarted, another media
server will become SCAN-HOST.

Each drive should have one SCAN-HOST. Perfectly normal in SSO
environment.

 

Before 6.x you had to do 'vmdareq' on the master to see which media
server is the SCAN-HOST for each drive.

 

SCAN-HOST priority can be set per media server:

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/295018.htm

 

 

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] SCAN-TLD Randomly appearing on Master and Media
Servers

 

Hi All 
SCAN-TLD keeps appearing and staying on the Master Server - This is also
present on some media Servers. 
bounced the Services many times, but when I do, the SCAN-TLD seems to
move to another Media Server, or back to the Master !

Any ideas - NBU Upgrade 6.5.2 Win2k3 SP2 

Regards 

Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar

2009-05-27 Thread Jeff Lightner
Haven't used Avamar but have used the Data Domains.

 

In general I like EMC hardware but their Clariion support is done BADLY
out of India IMHO.  Prior to buying anything other than Symmetrix to
them I'd be asking where the front line and 2nd tier support is.  If
they tell you India then I'd suggest you move on.   It doesn't matter
how good the hardware is if you have substandard support after the fact.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar

 

We're a netbackup shop running NBU 6.5.2a. We currently have some data
domain appliances that we backup roughly 

25% of our nightly backups to. We're looking to go tapeless at some
point in time and were considering getting larger

Data domain appliances to accomplish this. We're also a EMC shop. Our
EMC BURA guys have been pushing their Avamar

Solution to us. I must admit it sounds promising, but I'm a little
skeptical at this solution.

 

Has anyone had any experiences, either good or bad with
Avamar?

 

 

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[Veritas-bu] Data Domain being acquired by NetApp

2009-05-20 Thread Jeff Lightner
http://view.mkt2lead.com/?j=fe621670756c05797d12m=feed12787d6103ls=fde
617797267077a701c7976jb=ffcf14

 

May be of interest for those of you using Data Domain units.
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] AIX 4.3.3 Client

2009-05-15 Thread Jeff Lightner
We have some ancient HP-UX 10.x systems that we now backup on an old NBU
5.1 install to an old 2 drive unit we have.   There is no reason to make
the rest of your infrastructure hold back due to ancient clients.  

Also pointing out that the hardware, OS and the backup solution (and
likely whatever app you're running on AIX) is all unsupported might
encourage management to think about migrating.   

It took us a few years of repeatedly mentioning this whenever the
environment is brought up to make management think about moving things.
A year ago they finally did move the bulk of the old app off to
something new and there is a project to move the one last bit off by
June.   Sometimes System Administration is about extended campaigning
rather than quick fixes.  You don't have to be in in your face about
it on a daily basis but do need to make sure you remind folks whenever
the environment is discussed (especially if it goes down for some
reason).

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Greetings all,

We have an AIX 4.3.3 client that is naturally unsupported, but still 
working under NBU 6.0 MP5.  We have scheduled to go to 6.5.3.1, but
found 
out that this client (I think it is a 4.5 client) will not even work 
anymore.  Now we have been told that this may put the brakes on the
entire 
project.

I am wondering what creative things people may have done to keep their 
ancient clients backing up.

I am just looking for some ideas, and all are appreciated!

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Clear Case Backups

2009-05-12 Thread Jeff Lightner
We don't use Clear Case but a couple of ideas occur to me:

 

1)   You can shutdown the Clear Case DB then backup the filesystems
or raw devices where it is stored.   (We do this for Oracle DBs on vxfs
filesystems that we don't use RMAN for as well as one older Oracle DB in
raw space - mostly on HP-UX).

2)   Most DBs have a dump facility where you can dump out the
contents to a file.  You can then backup that file.   Later you can
restore by recreating the schema(s) and loading the DB dump back into
the DB.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Clear Case Backups

 

What is the best way to backup Clear Case Infrastructure? 

 

We have 2 servers running Aix 5.1 with Oracle 10g on the db server.

 

We want to use Netbackup 6.5 but can't find an agent for the clearcase
db (proprietary db). 

 

Just looking for some insight from others.

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup lun Restore

2009-05-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
It depends a lot on what you mean by LUN and how you're backing it up.
Is the LUN mounted as a filesystem?  Is it a LUN on which you have
raw database stored?  Some other thing?

 



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup lun Restore

 


Can't you just select the file you want to restore from the GUI and
start the restore job? 
What am I missing? 
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Can Netbackup 6.0 restore a single file from a lun?? 
  
  
I have able to backup and restore an entire lun successfully but I am
now wondering if Netbackup and parse the lun for a single file and
restore that file. 
  
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Looking for Advanced Netbackup Admins

2009-05-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
You might hint as to where the jobs are.  Someone in Hawaii might want a
new job but eschew postings in Alaska.

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I work for a company who is looking for 2 Netbackup Admin's. We are
looking for Advanced administrators. Please send a email to
jared.forres...@gmail.com if you are intrested!

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Looking for Advanced Netbackup Admins

2009-05-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
I know how to Google but why should I have to dig for something as basic
as location.  I didn't ask him to post the company.   Also I didn't say
I wanted the hint but suggested others might.

 



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Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:46 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Looking for Advanced Netbackup Admins

 

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Jeff Lightner jlight...@water.com
wrote:

You might hint as to where the jobs are.  Someone in Hawaii might want a
new job but eschew postings in Alaska.


If you're an advanced administrator, you'll probably know how to use
Google.  30 seconds will tell you that Jared Forrester is in the DFW
area. He works for a big company and the job may not be in the same city
he is, but that would be a reasonably good place to guess. 

So here's your hint:  http://www.linkedin.com/pub/3/b59/a9a

   .../Ed

 

 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup long retention does dedup help

2009-05-04 Thread Jeff Lightner
Right - it saves you SOME tape (assuming it is not all unique as
mentioned below) because you do initial backups to disk and only send
your duplicates to tape.   While you can get major
compression/deduplication on the disk images the duplicates on tape will
be the same size they always were because it is undeduped (reduped?)
when it goes to tape.   It did save us money on tape because now we only
have the offsite stuff on tape.

 

You can eliminate tape entirely if you use something like Data Domain
(deduplication) as it allows you to have an offsite unit that syncs data
from the onsite unit.  Of course you'd have to work out what you were
going to do for DR in such a model.  (e.g. Ship the offsite unit to DR
site after declaring or keep the offsite unit at the DR site - driven by
whether you own the DR site or not I imagine.)

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
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To: Harmon, Patricia K.
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup long retention does dedup help

 

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Harmon, Patricia K.
phar...@tecoenergy.com wrote:

We backup about  45t a week  that has a retention of  8 years.  We
backup to disk and dup to LTO3 tapes with few issues. Except the tape
budget is killing us.  

Anybody out there have long retentions?  Does de-dupe help save tapes?
We have few restores, so keeping data on disk is not a priority with us.


As always, it depends.   If you're backing up the same 45TB every week,
then de-dupe will be very beneficial to you. If you're backing up 45TB
of unique data every week, and the data blocks don't match what you
backed up any other week, then you won't de-dupe at all.  For example,
if those 45TB happen to be tiff images of customer statements, then
forget about it.  If they're C: drive backups of 10,000 Windows servers,
then you'll probably de-dupe very, very well.

You need to do a thorough analysis of what the data is you're backing
up.  The first objective, of course, is to back up less.  If you can
identify 800GB, and that's only 1.7%, of your data that doesn't need to
be backed up, and assuming that you're getting 2:1 compression so you
use 1 less tape per week, then you've saved about 52*8 tapes at roughly
$25 per tape, or $10K over 8 years.

Don't forget that de-duping isn't an all-or-nothing solution.  You may
de-dupe in some places where it makes sense but not others.  

.../Ed 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] backup was partially successful. - error codes1

2009-04-13 Thread Jeff Lightner
Or because it is a file in the UNIX/Linux sense but not in the backup
sense.

 

Examples of these would be Door files in Solaris and anything in /proc
on Linux.

 



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] backup was partially successful. - error
codes1

 

Look at the details of the job.

 

Usually because a file was busy and it could not backup it up.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] backup was partially successful. - error codes1

 

HI

 

What could be reason for the Backup was partially successful.

Error status code as 1. 

 

 

Rgds

Nitin

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Jumping back into the NBU pool

2009-03-27 Thread Jeff Lightner
By Solaris do you mean OpenSolaris?  These are Intel boxes.

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Our NBU master is a HP DL385 G2 and our main media server is an HP DL380 G5, 
both running Solaris 10 and NBU 6.5.1

We used to run our master and media servers on Sun hardware but for the price, 
these HP's absolutely scream.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Jumping back into the NBU pool

I have not been a NBU engineer for about 3 years, but may be getting
back into the mix soon with a small but useful setup.

We have about 12 Solaris  3-4 Win2003 servers we need backed up that
are on an isolated network. They will have pretty slender policies which
will not require a whole lot of index space. Probably something like 1-2
full's a week with incrementals in between and 2-3 week retention. 

Anyway, looking for some suggestions on a master/media spec that could
handle this. Along with that client load, there will probably be SAN
attached disk and a pair of LTO4 tape drives. 

I don't have experience in small environments and I don't want to
overkill it. Any ideas would be welcome. :-)

Harry S.
Atlanta 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SuSE 10sp2

2009-03-24 Thread Jeff Lightner
I've not done it on SuSE at all.   If it is a 2.6 kernel probably you
could make the RedHat Linux 2.6 client work.  

Since I don't really know SuSE I can't be sure.

A couple of things I have seen on RHEL4/5 clients:
1) You have to be sure xinetd was installed BEFORE Netbackup.  Otherwise
Netbackup creates an inetd.conf which is useless.  I know you say you
have xinetd installed.   Make sure you have bpcd, bpjava-msvc, vnetd and
vopied files in /etc/xinetd.d (assuming it is same location on SuSE).  

2) You have to install compatibility package, compat-libstdc++-296,
installed BEFORE installing Netbackup.  (Note that -296 is part of
package name and not the version - there are typically version numbers
after the -296).   When I did the install of NBU and installed the
package after the fact it still gave status 58 errors so I had to remove
and reinstall NBU.

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From this I gather that no one on this forum has been able to make SuSE
10 sp2 clients work with NetBackup.  I will have to pursue other
options...

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Some Help Please - Status 89 on Win2k3 StandardServer SSO San Media

2009-03-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
What version of NBU was this?  We’re running sever HP-UX media servers at 6.5.1 
without having seen this kind of issue.

 



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Some Help Please - Status 89 on Win2k3 StandardServer 
SSO San Media

 

We started to get lots and lots of status 89s on our hp-ux media server.  It 
ended up being a memory leak and symantec gave us an eeb.  should be fixed with 
6.5.4



 

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:50 AM, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote:


Simon, 

89 is a shared memory error, usually seen on a Solaris box that is not 
configured with the correct mem settings, or is configured to use too much 
memory. 41's are usually from the network being ripped away during the backup, 
usually a shutdown or nic failure of some sort on the client. 

It sounds to me like you might have a hardware or client OS related issue. Have 
you looked in the event log on that client? 

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All 
hope I can have some help here. Logged a call 2 days ago with Symantec, due to 
the problem with this Server. 

NBU 5.1 MP5 Master and 6 SSO SAN Media Servers 

1 Particular Server had a problem Thursday night with backup issues. It was 
reporting status codes of 41 and 89. Since then, the Full Backup ran and this 
failed with 89. 

The docuemnts seem to show its related to a Solaris box, but this is a Windows 
SAN Media Server. To the very best, no one has altered or changed anything on 
this box. 

The problem first started with restores causing the Server to lose what we call 
RPC connectivity. The only way to get the Server operating was to do a Power 
Down and Power On. 

Since then, its become worse. I have sent over 800mb logs now, and I wanted to 
post this out on the Forum in case anyone else has seen this. 

I still have a job running (saying its going to take 227,892 minutes to 
complete now!) 

If anyone has any ideas, truly appreciated. 

Regards 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

2009-03-17 Thread Jeff Lightner
If NBU can see it then you can use the bpduplicate command to copy the
image from Data Domain to tape.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

 

Hello-
 
Without using OST, is there a way to get a physical tape copy from a
deduped/replicated image?
We have a local EDL/3DL replicating (de-duped data) to a remote EDL/3DL.
We need to get a physical tape from the remote copy, but it has to
NBU-aware. 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

2009-03-17 Thread Jeff Lightner
Of course.  Deduplicated information is only that information that is
not already duplicated somewhere else on the storage device.   Once you
copy the image using bpduplicate to a tape there is no other copy of the
information (so far as the tape is concerned) so obviously it would
create a whole backup using duplicated and non-duplicated information
from the Data Domain to create it. 

 

However, I didn't see anything by OP that suggested he was looking to
save deduped information to a tape.  I read his post as meaning:

There is a backup that went to Data Domain - we would now like to have
a tape copy of the backup.  

 

The only real trick in what he wrote is how to get the information from
the remote Data Domain to the local one.   Since we don't do the remote
setup here (we use vaulting to duplicate the local one to tape) I don't
know exactly how that mechanism works.   It may be automatic simply by
requesting a bpduplicate of the image or it may require some step on the
Data Domain itself.   I feel confident however that there is a way to
get the data from remote to onsite.  Otherwise having a remote unit
would be worse than useless.

 

 



From: Wilcox, Donald A (GE, Research) [mailto:wil...@ge.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:19 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; jeff kaplan; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

 

It is my understanding that Data Domain deduplicated images get blown
back up before going to tape, thereby losing the deduplication.

 

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Office: 518 387-6856 

 

 



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

If NBU can see it then you can use the bpduplicate command to copy the
image from Data Domain to tape.



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Hello-
 
Without using OST, is there a way to get a physical tape copy from a
deduped/replicated image?
We have a local EDL/3DL replicating (de-duped data) to a remote EDL/3DL.
We need to get a physical tape from the remote copy, but it has to
NBU-aware. 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] question on client names

2009-03-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
Resolving search lists doesn't mean they have to be configured correctly
everywhere.  Just for the server and the client involved in the
current problem.   That is to say while it needs to be configured
everywhere to make each client work when their turn comes in the
schedule it is a red herring to suggest that you need to concern
yourself with that everywhere when troubleshooting a specific issue.
If there's been an everywhere change it will become apparent due to
the fact that most of the clients will fail.  That kind of global
failure due to bad planning can occur regardless of which method you
use.  (e.g. What happens if all your FQDNs are suddently invalid due to
a domain name change?)

 

In a related point:  If you use short names and search lists then you
don't have to go edit all your policies with new domain names if they
change (and on occasion they do especially in mergers/acquisitions).
You just have to edit the resolv.conf on each of the servers and
clients.  That can be easily scripted (as in fact it was here recently
when we swapped out decommissioned named servers for new ones).

 

In the very few cases where I've thought difference between searched
name and FQDN might be a problem I've addressed it by adding entry to
master/media server hosts file and the specific client.

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:07 PM
To: Stafford, Geoff
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] question on client names

 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Stafford, Geoff
gstaff...@barclaycardus.com wrote:

The need to use FQDNs is, imho, a sign that you don't trust your DNS. 

I trust the DNS - I have extensive DNS experience and our company would
be down without a fully functioning DNS infrastructure.  Ours works.  
 

FQDNs are a PITA if you ask me and I would rather take the time
to make something as mission critical as DNS work right instead of
hiding the real problem.  


FQDNs make it absolutely clear what's going on.  Remember, you can't do
a backup using a short form name anyway - internally, you're resolving
to a fqdn whether you like it or not.  You're not only relying on FQDNs,
but you're also relying on the search lists configured properly
everywhere.

You can take all the short cuts you want, but not taking the short cuts
saves you headaches later, as MANY people have found out.

.../Ed 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] question on client names

2009-03-15 Thread Jeff Lightner
We use short names.

Also we actually have a separate VLAN for backups so for most hosts we
put in a hostnameb short name in the master's host file.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] question on client names

 

At the start we added client names to netbackup as just the short name

 

Now they have been added different domains so now I got server that are
a little scattered

 

When I go to do updates I have to do each domain as a group.

 

Not knowing what domain a server is in have to do some commands and make
a list.

 

So I was just wondering.  When you add servers to netbackup do you use
short name or FQDN.

If short how do you handle installs on the different domains?
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server

2009-03-13 Thread Jeff Lightner
Not doing 6.5.3 yet but from my UNIX (HP-UX) master to install on RHEL5
I do the following:

1) Create a Client policy so it knows what version of the client
software (Linux, HP-UX etc...) to install.  I select RedHat 2.6 as OS
for the that.  I do it in the Java GUI.

2) From command line on the master I run (note this is all one line):
/bin/sh -c LC_ALL=american; export LC_ALL;
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/install_client_files ssh hostname

Note that you need to insure you've installed xinetd package before
doing this.  Run rpm -q xinetd to see if it is there.  If not run yum
install xinetd.


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Has anyone else run into this?

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3

ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3

ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the
version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system.

There is 1 pack available in /home/*:
(* denotes installed pack)

NB_6.5.3

Enter pack name (or q) [q]: q
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Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups fromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5

2009-03-11 Thread Jeff Lightner
OST apparently costs $$$

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fromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5

There has been a great deal of what looks to be valuable information
tossed about on here.  I am very glad I posted my original concerns to
this mail list.  I was out of the office yesterday so I will most likely
dedicate my day to decifering some of this information and following up
on my problem.  Whenever I do get this resolved I will gladly let the
list know what steps I have used.  Thank you all for your time and
responses.

B/R,
Tony H.

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datadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5

From what I know, quantum DXi7500 has an option path to tape and 
sends the
data to the tapes from fiber channel. I will implement it to a customer
within the next month.

Also with the latest firmware, DXi7500 use OST to replicate to another
DXi7500 and netbackup is aware of the replication. I don't know if this
is over fiber of ip, but the direct duplication to tapes is over fiber

stefanos

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data
domaintotapew/netbackup6.5



Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
 
 What is an OST interface ?
 


The OpenSTorage interface, a new way to use your Data Domain boxes (and
other boxes that support it) with NetBackup.  It's not NFS or CIFS, it
is its own transport.  It is also not VTL.  Think of it as a more
intelligent DSU. 

In the case of DD  Quantum, the data is sent over IP.  With Falconstor,
the data is sent over Fibre Channel.

With DD boxes (which is what started this conversation), the first
improvement you'll get simply by switching from NFS/CIFS to OST is a
significant increase in performance.   With all systems that support
OST,
you also get what NBU calls optimized deduplication, where NBU tells
one OST device to copy a given backup to another OST device.  The OST
device (in this case, the DD box) will use dedupe and replication to get
the data there.  Once there, it informs NBU.  Now NBU knows about both
copies, just as if it had duplicated it via bpduplicate.  Nice, huh?

The nice thing that OST is supposed to support is tape-out
functionality, where an OST device can copy it's backup to tapes and
tell NBU which tapes got which backups.  Again, just as if it NBU did
the copy.

Here's my blog post about OST:
http://www.backupcentral.com/content/view/198/47/

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Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backupsfromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5

2009-03-11 Thread Jeff Lightner
Actually the new DD OS upgrade alone is supposed to provide better performance. 
  We just did the upgrade and are looking at some other fun facts with HP-UX' 
NFS implementation.

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From: Mark Glazerman [mailto:mark.glazer...@spartech.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:12 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; Hickman, Tony; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backupsfromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5

That is indeed correct... in the summer of 2008 we were quoted $12,500 per year 
for an OST license on a DD560 plus an extra $2800 for 1 year of platinum 
support.  You need a license per restorer so we would have needed 2.

At the time I understood that it was of more use for folks still vaulting data 
to tape from the DD's.  I understand that when combined with the new DDOS 
release, OST now provides considerable performance improvements with regard to 
throughput.

We may revisit the idea if the prices have changed.

Mark Glazerman
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Cell: 618-520-3401
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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner
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To: Hickman, Tony; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
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OST apparently costs $$$

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fromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5

There has been a great deal of what looks to be valuable information
tossed about on here.  I am very glad I posted my original concerns to
this mail list.  I was out of the office yesterday so I will most likely
dedicate my day to decifering some of this information and following up
on my problem.  Whenever I do get this resolved I will gladly let the
list know what steps I have used.  Thank you all for your time and
responses.

B/R,
Tony H.

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datadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5

From what I know, quantum DXi7500 has an option path to tape and 
sends the
data to the tapes from fiber channel. I will implement it to a customer
within the next month.

Also with the latest firmware, DXi7500 use OST to replicate to another
DXi7500 and netbackup is aware of the replication. I don't know if this
is over fiber of ip, but the direct duplication to tapes is over fiber

stefanos

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domaintotapew/netbackup6.5



Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
 
 What is an OST interface ?
 


The OpenSTorage interface, a new way to use your Data Domain boxes (and
other boxes that support it) with NetBackup.  It's not NFS or CIFS, it
is its own transport.  It is also not VTL.  Think of it as a more
intelligent DSU. 

In the case of DD  Quantum, the data is sent over IP.  With Falconstor,
the data is sent over Fibre Channel.

With DD boxes (which is what started this conversation), the first
improvement you'll get simply by switching from NFS/CIFS to OST is a
significant increase in performance.   With all systems that support
OST,
you also get what NBU calls optimized deduplication, where NBU tells
one OST device to copy a given backup to another OST device.  The OST
device (in this case, the DD box) will use dedupe and replication to get
the data there.  Once there, it informs NBU.  Now NBU knows about both
copies, just as if it had duplicated it via bpduplicate.  Nice, huh?

The nice thing that OST is supposed to support is tape-out
functionality, where an OST device can copy it's backup to tapes and
tell NBU which tapes got which backups.  Again, just as if it NBU did
the copy.

Here's my blog post about OST:
http://www.backupcentral.com/content/view/198/47/

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Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain to tapew/netbackup 6.5

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Lightner
You can use the bpduplicate command to copy one backup image to another.
The source image can be Data Domain and the target can be tape.  If you
know scripting it should be fairly easy to create a script that calls
this command.   Type man bpduplicate for more details on the command.
Look at the storage unit options for setting source and destination.

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Hickman,
Tony
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:27 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain to
tapew/netbackup 6.5

 

Hi,

 

This is the first time for me using this mailing list.  This list was
recommended to me by someone and here I am.  

 

Here is my current dilemma:

We went to using a Data Domain device along with NetBackup 6.5 in late
December.  We do not have the Vault add-on for NetBackup.  Currently all
of our backups are going to the Data Domain.  Our corporate policy
requires us to make quarterly full backups to tape.  I am trying to
figure out how I can copy backups off of the Data Domain to a tape
library.  I was told that this can be done with the help of some scripts
but, I have not been able to find any information on how to do this or
where to even begin though my research attemps.  I am hoping someone on
this mailing list has experience with this process, or is willing to
point me in the right direction.  Please reply if you can help and many
thanks!

 

B/R,

 

Tony H.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Lightner
It would have to be a DSU since it is a disk based de-duplication
device.   Here we use GigE connections to it but Fibre is available (for
a price).

 

In our environment we DO have Vaulting so we regularly vault from the
DSU to tape for those items that require offsite storage.

 

One alternative to that (which we don't use) is to get a second Data
Domain and put it at an offsite location then use Data Domain's ability
to copy images directly to the offsite unit from the onsite unit.

 



From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:mark.donald...@staples.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 2:31 PM
To: Jeff Lightner; Hickman, Tony; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain
totapew/netbackup 6.5

 

Is the data domain a DSU for netbackup?

 

When you say you're backing up to it, can you give more details?

 

-M

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff
Lightner
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:51 AM
To: Hickman, Tony; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain
totapew/netbackup 6.5

You can use the bpduplicate command to copy one backup image to another.
The source image can be Data Domain and the target can be tape.  If you
know scripting it should be fairly easy to create a script that calls
this command.   Type man bpduplicate for more details on the command.
Look at the storage unit options for setting source and destination.



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Hickman,
Tony
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:27 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain to
tapew/netbackup 6.5

Hi,

This is the first time for me using this mailing list.  This list was
recommended to me by someone and here I am.  

Here is my current dilemma:

We went to using a Data Domain device along with NetBackup 6.5 in late
December.  We do not have the Vault add-on for NetBackup.  Currently all
of our backups are going to the Data Domain.  Our corporate policy
requires us to make quarterly full backups to tape.  I am trying to
figure out how I can copy backups off of the Data Domain to a tape
library.  I was told that this can be done with the help of some scripts
but, I have not been able to find any information on how to do this or
where to even begin though my research attemps.  I am hoping someone on
this mailing list has experience with this process, or is willing to
point me in the right direction.  Please reply if you can help and many
thanks!

B/R,

Tony H.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Lightner
Only problem with the script is OP says he has a Windows master.  He'll
have to figure out the way VBS or BAT way of doing it.

 



From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:mark.donald...@staples.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 3:42 PM
To: Hickman, Tony; Jeff Lightner; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain
totapew/netbackup 6.5

 

If you've got a DSU, then I'd suggest starting with bpimmedia, then.  

 

It'll show you what images are on the device.

 

For example...:

 

bpimmedia -disk -disk_stu DISK_STU_NAME -d start_date_range -e
end_date_range | awk '$1==IMAGE {print $4}' | tee /tmp/file_of_bpids

 

This'll give you a list of image id's on the DD storage unit for the
date range specified.  bpimmedia has lots of options for selecting
images if you don't want to do it with a simple date range.  The awk
on the end just snips out the backup image id.

 

Put this list of ID's in a file, copy the file to a safe name, too, then
feed the results into bpduplicate with the '-Bidfile' option.  

 

bpduplicate -dstunit TAPE_STU -Bidfile /tmp/file_of_bpids -dp
DSTPOOL -cn 1 -L /tmp/dup.logfile -set_primary 1 

 

Note: bpduplicate expects to duplicate to a tape on that same media
server unless you use the -altreadhost option. 

 

This'll duplicate those disk images to a tape, now you have to go back
and expire the on-disk images or you won't gain your disk space back.
This is why you made a copy of the list of image ID's, the original list
is deleted by bpduplicate (I dunno why - it's always done this, though).


 

for id in `cat /tmp/file_of_bpids.copy`

do

  num_copies=` bpimagelist -backupid $bpid 2/dev/null \

   awk 'BEGIN{num=0}{if($1==IMAGE){num=$21}}END{print
num}'`

  if [ $num_copies -gt 1 ]

  then

echo Expire: $id

bpexpdate -recalculate -backupid $id -d 0 -copy 1 -force

  fi

done

 

So the snipped above reads the backup id's one by one and then checks if
the you've got at least two copies of it.  If you do, then it deletes
the first copy.

 

Note - I'm making an assumption above that you have only one copy of the
data backed up and that one copy is on your disk STU.  It's possible
with other arrangements but easier to make this assumption first.  It
think it's accurate to what you said earlier.

 

Hope this helps.

-M

 



From: Hickman, Tony [mailto:tony.hick...@sbmoffshore.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:16 PM
To: Jeff Lightner; Donaldson, Mark; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain
totapew/netbackup 6.5

Thanks for the many replies, and my apologies for taking awhile to
respond.  I just got off of a very long support call with Data Domain
and I mentioned the tape backups to the tech I was working with.  The
Data Domain device is setup as a disk storage unit.  It has VTL
capabilities but the VTL has not been setup yet. The tech recommended
that we setup VTL but wanted me to check with our assigned systems
engineer before proceeding.  We have one Win 2003 server as our master
server, and we have a Quantum Scalar i500 that holds our tapes.  Before
the Data Domain everything was going to tape.  I am not certain just yet
if the VTL setup is required to copy to the tapes or not, or if I can
just script something out and go?

 

It is becoming increasingly critical for me to find a way to get the
backups off of the Data Domain and get them to tape.  Currently our
retention periods are set at 3 months for all backups.  Our corporate
policy states we must take the quarterly fulls to tape and archive them
offsite.  The problem is that we have yet to grab our 4th quarter tape
backups for 2008 and we are getting closer to running out of time.  Also
the Data Domain is nearing it's maximum capacity.  So the plan is to get
the 08 4th quarter fulls off to tape and then drop our retention periods
down to 1 month from 3 month to help free up space.

 

I will do some research here shortly about the bpduplicate command and
see what I can come up with.  I'm not that great at scripting but I can
normally find my way around.  I hope the extra information helps.  If
anyone else has more advise please chime in.  I appreciate all the quick
responses.  

 

Thanks,

 

Tony H.

 

 



From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlight...@water.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:39 PM
To: Donaldson, Mark; Hickman, Tony; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain
totapew/netbackup 6.5

It would have to be a DSU since it is a disk based de-duplication
device.   Here we use GigE connections to it but Fibre is available (for
a price).

 

In our environment we DO have Vaulting so we regularly vault from the
DSU to tape for those items that require offsite storage.

 

One alternative to that (which we don't use) is to get a second Data
Domain

Re: [Veritas-bu] locate database files in clients system level backups

2009-02-27 Thread Jeff Lightner
Why not just do a bpflist on the backupid to determine what files it
had?

 

What I typically do is:

 

bpimmedia -L -policy POLICY  -d mm/dd/ccyy hh:mm:ss -e mm/dd/ccyy
hh:mm:ss

 

where -d = start time and -e = end time of the backup you're interested
in.

 

 

Or use bpimagelist:

bpimagelist -L -policy POLICY  -d mm/dd/ccyy hh:mm:ss -e mm/dd/ccyy
hh:mm:ss

 

You can pipe that through grep hostname_ to get just the backupids
for the backup.

 

You can then run a bpflist on those images to see which files were
backed up:

bpflist -backupid backupid from above -d mm/dd/ccyy hh:mm:ss -e
mm/dd/ccyy -rl 999

NOTE:  If client/media server is not the master then add -client
clientname.

 

 

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Stump,
Bob A
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 1:47 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] locate database files in clients system level
backups

 

 Hello,

I have a thousand clients on several sites throughout the U.S. I want to
be able to determine if a client has a database on it that is getting
copied to tape by a NetBackup system level backup. I thought that
perhaps I could use the NetBackup image catalog.  I was thinking that I
could uncompress and convert the clients image files to ascii using
bpcatlist/cat_convert and search for .dbf, .mdf, .ldf etc... in the
files. Has anybody done this that could help me get started?

Thanks,

Bob Stump

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Legal Freeze / Frozen Media

2009-02-17 Thread Jeff Lightner
That reminds me of the old joke memo about being on your manager's
Special High Intensity Training list...

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[mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:24 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; patrick.swee...@axcelis.com; jmart...@intersil.com;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Legal Freeze / Frozen Media

I have what we call special Long Term Retention. 

We have a spread sheet that contains info on why.
Tape number, type, 1of3, servers, date created, why, person/department
allowed to release.

It was the only way I could come up with that would allow me to keep
track.

Iron Mountain also can store open media and for each of these at IM I
can put in details about each tape and get a report from them if needed.

It is a little work, but I don't have to do it often.


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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff
Lightner
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:13 AM
To: Sweeney, Patrick; Martin, Jonathan;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Legal Freeze / Frozen Media

I think I'm missing something here.  Rather than simply freeze them why
not set them to infinite retention?  That way they won't expire and
should stay in your catalog.  Are they not asking for specific media?

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sweeney,
Patrick
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:52 AM
To: Martin, Jonathan; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Legal Freeze / Frozen Media

Just a thought - what about creating a media pool that isn't used by any
backup policies and moving the media to that pool until you have the
opportunity to flip the write/tab and import it?

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jonathan [jmart...@intersil.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:48 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Legal Freeze / Frozen Media


All,

We've recently been hit by a number of legal actions requiring media to
be frozen and I'm trying to refine my procedure.  There has always been
a request that I save the catalog entries for the media that are being
frozen.  After trying this, I've found that we simply don't have enough
space on the images lun to do this.  What I've done instead is to output
what images are on the media to the frozen media document so at least if
data is required and the catalog is purged, we know which ones to scan /
import first.  Does anyone have a better idea than this?  I've also
considered making a special catalog backup (what a hassle to restore
though) or archiving the images.

Further, I'm pretty good about requesting media back and if they are
frozen returning them as indefinite retention / frozen.  However, I fear
my co-workers may be less diligent with their restores.  (One in
particular returned an LTO3 media to me this week in a SDLT Media case.)
Is there some way short of a sharpie to safely mark / label these media
as frozen?  I'm just looking for ideas.

Thanks,

-Jonathan

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Re: [Veritas-bu] how to specifying what to backup

2009-02-11 Thread Jeff Lightner
Here we don't concern ourselves with the number of policies.  We try to
make the names as consistent as possible to insure what we're backing
up.

We'll backup the operating system on every system and name policy for
each as hostname-OS.   The exclude lists for those policies would
generally have all the directories that we would consider application
supported by other teams as opposed to operating system supported by us.
(e.g. on UNIX we might include /opt in the OS backup but exclude
something like /opt/oracle).
For environments we'll typically have a policy for the host and the
environment (if we back it up at all - e.g. We might have server1-ENV-DB
on the database server and server1-ENV-APP on the application tier
server(s) where ENV is what we named the environment such as DEV, TEST,
TRNG, PROD etc...). 

By using consistent naming like the above we can scroll through the list
of policies quickly to determine the backup appropriate to what we need
see.  Also as hinted at above there are some environments (mostly
Development) that we don't backup at all because it they are refreshed
from PROD so in the event of failure it is just as fast to do a new
refresh as it would be to restore what is likely an old copy of PROD
anyway. 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:57 AM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] how to specifying what to backup

I am in an environment with a large number of machines each requiring 
backups for different purposes.  As each machine is different in some 
way it has resulted in nearly 300 policies.  Each one backup up one or 
two directories.

I wanted to find out how other people are getting round this and 
reducing the number of policies.

I have seen some discussion about using include and exclude list to 
define what is backed up, but this can mean that you have to look at 
each client to find out what is backed up and the activity monitor when 
you look at it is not giving an accurate representation of backups.

Any feedback greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] E-mail Notification on the LINUX (RedHat) Master Server

2009-02-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
If you're running RedHat Linux then sendmail comes with the distribution media. 
  If you didn't install from there you can or you can just do yum install 
sendmail to install it from RedHat yum repositories.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] E-mail Notification on the LINUX (RedHat) Master Server

 

Hello,

 

I'm trying to set the e-mail notification on the LINUX Master Server (6.5.1)

 

I've found the following document on the Symantec Knowledge Base;

 

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/316365.htm 
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/316365.htm  

 

It tells that NetBackup uses the mail transfer agent sendmail to send email 
notifications;

 

And they suggest that just set the needed settings on the Master Server GUI and 
then Install it from the following Web site and configure your environment 
accordingly:

 

http://www.sendmail.org/releases http://www.sendmail.org/releases  

 

I've dowload the suggested zip file, bur there is no readme,ınstallation guide 
or like those something.

 

Does anyone know how can I set the e-mail notification?

 

Do I need to install the sendmail ?

 

Please advise..

 

Thanks, Regards.

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] E-mail Notification on the LINUX (RedHat) Master Server

2009-02-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
Why single me out for this?  I wasn't asking - I was answering.

 

As to what is valid for this list I don't think anyone made you the
arbiter.

 



From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:59 AM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: Servet Ince; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] E-mail Notification on the LINUX (RedHat)
Master Server

 

2009/2/10 Jeff Lightner jlight...@water.com

If you're running RedHat Linux then sendmail comes with the distribution
media.   If you didn't install from there you can or you can just do
yum install sendmail to install it from RedHat yum repositories.


Frankly, if you don't know what sendmail is, then sendmail is probably
not for you.  Postfix is a much better MTA for admins not familiar with
Linux MTAs.

Both are well documented and veritas-bu is not the right place to be
discussing their configurations.  
 

.../Ed 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] [Q] How to check Veritas client 6.5 daemon running onLinux????

2009-02-09 Thread Jeff Lightner
There is no daemon running on the RHEL client usually.   Instead
xinetd should be listening on the port and start the client process when
a request is made.

 

By default xinetd is NOT installed on RHEL.  The NBU Client is brain
dead so assumes you have inetd when it doesn't find xinetd running.  It
then creates an /etc/inetd.conf file which is useless since inetd isn't
running.

 

Verify you have xinetd installed (rpm -q xinetd) and that it has the
following files in /etc/xinetd.d:

-rw-r--r--  1 root root 311 Mar 14  2008 bpcd

-rw-r--r--  1 root root 377 Mar 14  2008 bpjava-msvc

-rw-r--r--  1 root root 344 Mar 14  2008 vnetd

-rw-r--r--  1 root root 307 Mar 14  2008 vopied

 

If not the simplest solution would be to remove the NBU software from
the client then install xinetd then reinstall the client so it
configures xinetd properly.

 

The fact it works sometimes makes me wonder if the above is your problem
though.

 



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Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:17 AM
To: aaa aaa
Subject: [Veritas-bu] [Q] How to check Veritas client 6.5 daemon running
onLinux

 

We have Veritas Netbackup client 6.5 install on Redhat As 4.7.  It has
been run for a period of time.
Sometime we got can not connect to client message and Veritas server
can NOT perform backup. 

Our support engineer say it may be Netbackup client daemon is die on
LINUX server.

Does there has way to check Veritas client daemon running status on
Linux server?

Thanks.  



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Real time failure notification

2009-02-05 Thread Jeff Lightner
Actually it depends on how long your timeout is set.  If you've set
things to timeout in 2 hours then 6 attempts would take 12 hours.  You
might want to know long before that.  On the other hand, setting the
timeout lower risks having the backup abort if it takes a long time
normally (e.g. a database backup). 

The observation wasn't saying what you want won't work but rather that
it is not truly real time which was what you'd put in your original
post.  You pays your nickel and you takes your choice.

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Kelley
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:37 AM
To: Donaldson, Mark; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Real time failure notification

Not really.  We have netbackup configured to retry a backup if it
fails so there may be multiple attempts under the same jobid.  I
don't want to get an alert if Netbackup is already running the backup
again under another attempt.  I only want to get an alert after
Netbackup has tried the configured number of attempts and is failing
the jobid.  The way I see it is most of the time if something is
really broken it won't take long to run through the 5 attempts, fail
the job and alert, but if the box just got to busy and timed out or if
the backup process was killed unintentionally I'd rather Netbackup
handle retrying that on its own and not alert me.

On 2/4/09, Donaldson, Mark mark.donald...@staples.com wrote:
 Your don't alert if retry was successful automatically excludes the
 idea of a real-time monitor.

 It's a bit like saying Don't alert if you're going to succeed in the
 future.

 We solved this by creating an after-the-fact monitor for our backups
-
 it searches the bpdbjobs output daily and parses that down to return
 code, policy, client,  fileset.  If a fileset fails more than X days
in
 a row (without a success in there somewhere) then it's reported on as
an
 endangered fileset.

 It'd been decently effective.

 -M

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 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Real time failure notification

 Hi all.  I'm trying to find a solution to a monitoring problem we
 have.  I would like to create a mechanism to alert when a backup fails
 but to only send one alert if multiple streams from a backup fail.
 For instance if c: and d: both fail for a particular box, I only want
 1 alert.  Also if a job fails twice but is successful on the third
 attempt I don't want an alert at all.  I only want to be alerted once
 when netbackup gives up on retrying a backup and fails the job.
 I've looked at backup_exit_notify but haven't been able to find a good
 way to implement this here.  Any ideas?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Status = 12 (file open failed) in bpbackup

2009-02-03 Thread Jeff Lightner
In fact in places I've worked that we used a scheduler (Maestro/Tivoli
Workload Scheduler) we did have it abend on non-zero exit status.  That
is actually default behavior.

At one site we actually wrote wrapper scripts to set exit status on the
backup script so that if it was an status 1 from NBU the script would
report an exit status 0 to prevent abends.

Often you want this because the backup is just one part of a much larger
schedule such as a BCV process where you have to do the synchronization
from one server, stop the database and split the BCV on Production then
import the BCV on yet another to do backup from it to tape.

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Status = 12 (file open failed) in bpbackup

 So anything other than a status 0 abbends our job. What's 

Is that the behaviour you want?  You didn't ask, but that's probably not
what I'd want my scheduler process to do.

 I can't find anywhere in any log which file bpbackup is 
 actually choking on. Sometimes the status 12 happens before 
 any files are backed up, sometimes it's in the middle of the backup. 

The reference you need is the Veritas NetBackup Troubleshooting Guide.
For the specific problem of what file, create a bpbkar log directory
on the client(s) and set the VERBOSE level to greater than zero; that
will cause bpbkar to record the file names in the log as it processes
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Re: [Veritas-bu] pdf files

2009-01-30 Thread Jeff Lightner
I used pdfedit not so much to annotate but to modify a PDF report
someone sent me once.   This was on Linux.   Not sure if they have a
port to Windoze or not but it is Open Source so has no cost.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfedit


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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] pdf files


I have heard of only one solution so far. 
Are there any other products to look at?


Foxit Reader is a free pdf reader.  It's buy
version allows annotations.  $39 will get it for you.
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php






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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:58 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] pdf files


Dear fellow teachers, mentors, students and users of NetBackup

I downloaded all the NetBackup 6.5 pdf files. I haven't RTFM all of
manuals since version 4.5.  So much has changed, and I am getting older
:-) 

I use the Adobe Reader 8 version 8.1.3. I am not satisfied with that
solution. I want to be able to highlight items on a page, write notes in
the margins, place a post-it note on a page with a note on it. I want to
have the full functionality as if it were a hard copy document. I am old
school.

Is this functionality available in the Adobe Reader 8? Do I need to
purchase a full blown Adobe installation? Is there another product that
would work better for marking up a pdf file?


Bob Stump
VERITAS Ain't it the truth?


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

2009-01-30 Thread Jeff Lightner
I think it's a little different.  

The OP was asking how to do something presumably legal except if done in
response to pending litigation.

The news article suggests someone who was planning something quite
malicious presumably of harm to Fannie Mae itself rather than any
attempt to hide information from possible litigation.  If he is guilty I
hope he rots in jail and is never allowed to touch a system again.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jonathan
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:41 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

You guys remember this post? (below)

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090130/fannie_mae_virus.html?.v=5

What a mess!

-Jonathan 

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To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable


Greetings, 

I am pretty sure that a lot of you who are working for big enterprises
are aware of the legal holds and holding even the scratch tapes for the
legal purposes. I have a question related to this. There is a
possibility that legal might come back and ask to hold all tapes
including the scratch tapes because Netbackup has a mechanism to read
those tapes and import them. 

Is there a way we can make Netbackup tapes as unimportable easily with
out rewriting the whole tape?

Thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

2009-01-30 Thread Jeff Lightner
Perhaps.  

But if they fired the alleged malicious contractor in October he wasn't
the one sending email this month and wouldn't have had access to
physically move tapes to insure they were unrecoverable.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable



Jeff Lightner wrote:
 I think it's a little different.  
 
 The OP was asking how to do something presumably legal except if done
in
 response to pending litigation.
 
 The news article suggests someone who was planning something quite
 malicious presumably of harm to Fannie Mae itself rather than any
 attempt to hide information from possible litigation.  If he is guilty
I
 hope he rots in jail and is never allowed to touch a system again.


Looking at the dates these appear to be unrelated- but the information
would be useful to both users; malicious or not. 

Personally, I've never seen a coin with only one side.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Client for HP-UX 10.20?

2009-01-23 Thread Jeff Lightner
We have some old 10.20 clients here.  The client version is:
NetBackup-HP-UX10.20 3.4patchJ0850740 installed back when they were
new.
However, NBU 6.x won't talk to clients that old so we have smaller 5.1
Master with a small 2 drive unit set up to backup these systems and a
couple of other oddities.

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jonathan
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:01 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU Client for HP-UX 10.20?


Anyone here have any luck running any client on HP-UX 10.20?  I've got
client CDs going back to 4.5 and none of them seem to have a 10.20
client on them?  The install.sh isn't working at all.  Is there perhaps
some way to manually install a newer version to get this to work?  I've
got some old machines that need to be backed up but without a working
client I'm kind of dead in the water.

Thanks,

-Jonathan


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

2009-01-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
I'm assuming you want to be able to use the tapes as scratch tapes.   If
so then I'd suggest just loading in the drive and doing a simple tar to
the tape - that will overwrite the header information.

Of course if you KNOW that there is a possibility legal might NEED
these tapes for litigation that is pending YOU could be held legally
responsible for doing this by the courts or the plaintiffs you've
frustrated.   

You need to insure whatever action you take is in line with EXISTING
retention policy and is NOT being done in light of some legal action
that is pending.  

Personally I wouldn't bother with this at all. If legal comes to you and
says you have to save all tapes then you should be saving everything
with infinite retention already and tell them how much it costs to keep
every backup ever made.   Most legal departments do really want you to
save everything forever - only for as long as the law requires.
Plaintiffs can not compel your organization to provide information that
it no longer has but they can compel it to provide information that it
does have.   The legal argument for scratch tapes is that the
information that tells you WHERE the old backup is no longer exists so
they can't really compel you to re-import old scratch tapes on the off
chance one of them contains information they might want.

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Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:46 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable


Greetings, 

I am pretty sure that a lot of you who are working for big enterprises
are aware of the legal holds and holding even the scratch tapes for the
legal purposes. I have a question related to this. There is a
possibility that legal might come back and ask to hold all tapes
including the scratch tapes because Netbackup has a mechanism to read
those tapes and import them. 

Is there a way we can make Netbackup tapes as unimportable easily with
out rewriting the whole tape?

Thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

2009-01-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
I meant to say do NOT really rather than do really.

By the way this is all my opinion.  I'm not a lawyer so follow the
advice at your own risk.

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff
Lightner
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:03 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable

I'm assuming you want to be able to use the tapes as scratch tapes.   If
so then I'd suggest just loading in the drive and doing a simple tar to
the tape - that will overwrite the header information.

Of course if you KNOW that there is a possibility legal might NEED
these tapes for litigation that is pending YOU could be held legally
responsible for doing this by the courts or the plaintiffs you've
frustrated.   

You need to insure whatever action you take is in line with EXISTING
retention policy and is NOT being done in light of some legal action
that is pending.  

Personally I wouldn't bother with this at all. If legal comes to you and
says you have to save all tapes then you should be saving everything
with infinite retention already and tell them how much it costs to keep
every backup ever made.   Most legal departments do really want you to
save everything forever - only for as long as the law requires.
Plaintiffs can not compel your organization to provide information that
it no longer has but they can compel it to provide information that it
does have.   The legal argument for scratch tapes is that the
information that tells you WHERE the old backup is no longer exists so
they can't really compel you to re-import old scratch tapes on the off
chance one of them contains information they might want.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of rvadde
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable


Greetings, 

I am pretty sure that a lot of you who are working for big enterprises
are aware of the legal holds and holding even the scratch tapes for the
legal purposes. I have a question related to this. There is a
possibility that legal might come back and ask to hold all tapes
including the scratch tapes because Netbackup has a mechanism to read
those tapes and import them. 

Is there a way we can make Netbackup tapes as unimportable easily with
out rewriting the whole tape?

Thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Sepaton

2009-01-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
Sepaton presented themselves to us as an alternative to Data Domain
(data deduplication on hard drives).   When I read the info they sent me
it seemed that I'd have to buy at least as much storage as I already had
because first copy isn't compressed.   We didn't have the floor space
for that so didn't pursue it.   Data Domain on the other hand compresses
and dedupes so using much smaller units than it seemed Sepaton was
suggesting allowed us to do the compression and deduplication.

 

You might also look at EMC's offerings for data deduplication.  They've
been pushing them but we haven't looked into them since we'd already
gone the DD route.

 



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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:23 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Sepaton

 

Hello All,

 

Happy New Year.

 

Has anyone heard of, or worked with Sepaton? If so, could you give me
some highlights?

 

Regards,

 

Patrick Whelan

VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.

VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows.

 

netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk
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Re: [Veritas-bu] backing up by application

2009-01-13 Thread Jeff Lightner
If you use an external scheduler such as $Universe or Tivoli Workload
Scheduler (a/k/a Maestro) then you can make all the backups dependent
upon one another although I wouldn't.  There is no need to rerun the
middle tier backup just because the DB backup fails or more importantly
no reason to rerun the DB backup because the middle tier fails.  In the
past I've worked at locations where we used these schedulers mainly to
deal with shutting down middle tier before stopping DB then backing up
both.   Also often enough you're actually doing a BCV copy of the DB
from one host, importing and mounting that copy on another and then
backing up the BCV mounted.   These scheduling tools are great for
insuring all the different pieces have been done before the DB backup is
run on the BCV copy.

 

At my current job we don't have such a tool so we generally script
things like that.For most of our systems we have at least 2
policies:  1 for the OS which excludes all application and database
directories and 1 or more for each of the distinct environments (e.g.
PROD, DEV, STAGING) that exist on the systems.   Since Oracle is
typically broken up into at least one middle tier (application) server
and one database server we would usually have 1 policy for backing up
its middle tier and one 1 for backing up its database.

 

We also name our policies so that they are somewhat descriptive:
hostname-OS

hostname-APP-ENV

hostname-DB-ENV

Where hostname would be the name of the server and ENV would be the name
of the specific environment. 

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:37 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] backing up by application

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:16 AM, kharris
netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote:


We are redesigning our backup infrastructure to backup files based on
applictaion as opposed to server.One of the challenges is identifying
wether netbackup can go accross the network and pull files from multiple
systems provided an identifier is supplied and bucket them.We are well
aware of the policy,tape pool,as well as multiplexing aspects of this.We
are trying to see if this is possible.

 

You can certainly bucket them with a keyword but that's only a small
part of the solution.  Scheduling your backups will be the real problem
- an individual backup policy may only contain a file list that's common
to all of the servers in the policy and you can have only one policy
type (Standard, Windows, etc.) per policy.   In other words, an
application that spans an Oracle database on a Unix cluster with a
Windows file cluster is going to be really difficult to back up on an
application-consistent basis since you'll need a minimum of 4 NetBackup
policies just to do those backups.

 

You also have to decide what to do if one of the policies doesn't run or
fails - does the entire application need to be rerun, or just the failed
pieces?  That's something we can't answer for you.

 

It's all doable although you may need an external scheduler to help with
this because of the limitations of what can go into a single NetBackup
policy and the reruns that need to be done if part of the backup set
fails.

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error

2009-01-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
If the clients are UNIX or Linux you can try doing login from the master
to the client then doing a check to see from which IP or hostname the
login appears on the client.  If it shows IP instead of hostname it
might be a sign the IP isn't recognized as the master's hostname.

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From: monalisa.ku...@wipro.com [mailto:monalisa.ku...@wipro.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:11 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error

Hi,

Thanks fr the reply bt we have not made any change in the n/w but all
the bkps except the catalog are failing fr all clients.The customer is
saying tht they have not done any chnge to their n/w bt from last week
the bkp is failing.I can tell you tht it is running with NBU version 5.0
and solaris as the master server Os. 


thanks  regards,
 
Monalisa Kundu | ES-Practice Engineer | Wipro
No.30, Divyasree Mission Road, Ist Main, S.R.Nagar
Bangalore-560026
Mobile No.:09731398129
 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error

I saw a lot of these recently (and status 25 as well).  It was because
our master had two NICs in our backup LAN IP range and the routing we'd
setup had gotten screwed up.   I was able to solve it temporarily by
adding the master server twice to /etc/hosts on the clients that were
failing using both the IPs from the NICs on the master.  That way
regardless of which IP the traffic came from the client would see it as
the master.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error


can anyone tell me what can be the reason of socket read and write error
with error code 23 and 24 in NBU.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

2009-01-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
You might want to degauss even before sending out to such a company.

At least one poster on this list noted how he had gotten used tapes
that were supposedly wiped but on checking he found other people's data.

As for us we degauss any bad tapes after images have expired in NBU.  We
don't destroy until then on the off chance we'll need to send to someone
like Pivar to try to extract what can be extracted.

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of James
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:55 AM
To: Justin Piszcz
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

I the past when I have had to get rid of a bunch of old media.  I did 
some net searching and found a company that specifically dealt with this

as well as equipment recycling.

They agreed a price for the amount of tapes that I had; collected them 
and then they were confidentially destroyed.  I believe they were put in

a furnace.  We were then issued with a certificate of destruction as
proof.

This avoided any messing around with degaussing, erasing etc.

James

Justin Piszcz wrote:
 Had a few questions.
 
 1. How do you handle it?
 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before
you 
 send them off-site, that is one option.
 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy
the 
 tape media?
 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape
shards, 
 how do you dispose of the material?
 
 How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of
errors 
 etc) how do you properly dispose of them?
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] nbu 6.5.1 lifecycle policy issue

2009-01-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
We're running 6.5.1 and not having this issue.

Also FYI - Upgrade from 6.5.1 to 6.5.3 would not be as painful as the
one you just went through.   From 5.1 to 6.0 there was a major change in
the way things were done.   We upgraded from 6.0 to 6.5 with no real
issues.

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David McMullin wrote:
 Regarding the error you are getting - you might want to open a trouble
ticket with Symantec. 
 
 For the error: 
 Caught CORBA SystemException from SSmgrOperations: system exception,
ID 'IDL:omg.org/CORBA/NO_PERMISSION:1.0' 
 OMG minor code (0), described as '*unknown description*', completed =
NO 
 
 ![if !supportLists]1. ![endif]There are several binary updates
available ( I have rev 6 of nbpem ) 
 ![if !supportLists]2. ![endif]Check your daemons (on unix)
nbstserv has a tendency to core dump/stop and cause these errors. 
 ![if !supportLists]3. ![endif]Be aware you can overload the
database! 
 
 I had set up a script that would deactivate all my SLP: 
 for i in `/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbstl -L | grep -i name |
cut -c38-` 
 do 
 echo Now deactivating $i 
 /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbstlutil inactive -lifecycle $i 
 done 
 
 and I found that you can overload the database with too many changes,
and cause this type issue as well. 
 
 Hope one of these helps you! 
 
 BTW - symantec has recommended to me that I should go to 6.5.3! 
 
 I put the nbpem rev 6 (ETRACK 1448343)on our ftp site for you.  
 The significant changes in here for your environment are timer
conflict corrections that can impact correct rescheduling of due dates
and recognition of schedule changes. We still urge you to upgrade to
6.5.3 as soon as possible, for several other SLP issues are resolved in
that release. 


Thanks for the update. I did open a call with Symantec and they came
back with the same solution. Upgrade to 6.5.3.  However, we just
completed the upgrade to 6.5.1. from 5.1 and have all the clients at
6.5.1. Upgrade was painful and so don't want to change to 6.5.3..

Might end up sticking with old vault.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media management DB out of sync.

2009-01-06 Thread Jeff Lightner
By the way many of the commands have a -h host option.  You don't
have to go to the various hosts - you can just add the flag and issue
the command from the master for each of your media servers.

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dean
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:02 AM
To: Jeff Cleverley; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media management DB out of sync.

 

Rather than bpexpdate, I meant bpmedia -unfreeze, as you said. 
Duh.

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Dean dean.de...@gmail.com wrote:

 

After thinking about it I decided to trying running the bpmedia
-unfreeze on each of the SAN servers for each tape


I was going to suggest that. When you run the bpmedialist command, it
should tell you which media server owns that tape. And I have seen a
situation where more than one media server thought it owned a tape, in
which case bpmedialist will only return the first media server that
claims to own that tape. So I had to run the bpexpdate command on the
first media server, then bpmedialist again, then bpexpdate again on
the second media server that claimed the tape.
 


My apologies for the added emails.  Why can't I figure this out
before I hit the send button :-)


Sometimes just verbalising the question is enough to make the answer
come of it's own accord :)

- Dean
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SuSE 10sp2

2009-01-06 Thread Jeff Lightner
Interesting.

 

The following thread says in part:

On further investigation, this stupidity is specific to SuSE and Gentoo

which have patched glibc to support mdns. Debian has an nss-mdns which 
is the sane way to implement this functionality.

 

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/exim/users/73194

 

I didn't find mdns even mentioned in host.conf man page for RHEL5.

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David
McMullin
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:04 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] SuSE 10sp2

 

Do you have multiple NIC on the systems?

 

We had an issue where the default outgoing path was not what NetBackup
expected and had issues.

 

We modified the /etc/host.conf to include these lines:

 

multi on

mdns off

 

That did the trick...

 

David McMullin
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Searching Forum Archives

2008-12-30 Thread Jeff Lightner
A real nerd would hack Linux to replace the OS on his Blackberry then
write a Perl script there to parse his wget downloads of the posts from
the site.  :p

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
Nardello, John
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 2:46 PM
To: Randy Samora; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Searching Forum Archives

 

http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/

 

or

 

http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/search.html

 

- John Nardello

 



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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Randy
Samora
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:34 AM
To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Searching Forum Archives

Happy Holidays Everyone,

 

Is there an easy way to search through the subject lines of the forum
archives?  I'm off all week and one of the neighbors insulted me by
saying I wasn't a nerd.  I'm going to research NetBackup during my
vacation and prove them wrong.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel All jobs in Netbackup Java Console.

2008-12-22 Thread Jeff Lightner
Not that I've ever found.

This is one of my biggest pet peeves with design of NBU:
1)  They put it right next to the Cancel Job button.
2)  They use EXACTLY the same text when asking you to confirm cancel all
as they do when canceling a single job.  
3)  The highlight goes away so you are not sure you picked the correct
option unless you reselect it and don't let the mouse move a hair's
breadth.

What I always tell people is do NOT click Ok on the verification unless
the option you want was still highlighted right before it came up.

Most people do the cancel all at least once before they learn to pay
attention.   

IMHO if you have someone that does the cancel all on a regular basis
they should be fired for being too stupid to live.  Of course management
never does things that make sense.  I worked at a place where we had a
full NIS implementation with master and slave servers.   One putz
routinely pushed maps from the slave instead of the master causing
Production to stop in its tracks.  Instead of firing this bozo
management decided we shouldn't use NIS.   Let's hope your management
doesn't make a similarly enlightened decision regarding NBU.

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Oommen
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:38 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All
jobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All jobs  in Netbackup
Java
Console (Activity Monitor) . ? How ?



Regards


K.O Kurian

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel Alljobs in Netbackup Java Console.

2008-12-22 Thread Jeff Lightner
Because your method requires me to pull up each individual job and
cancel each individually.  Sometimes I'm highlighting a group of related
jobs and canceling those.  

On a related note:  
If you're doing a series of related jobs (e.g. multiple streams and/or
multiple copies) all started by one policy at the same time there's
usually a master job that can be canceled or suspended that will pass on
the cancel or suspend to all the rest of the related ones.   We didn't
realize it worked that way for a quite a while so got to see the most
interesting messages on resuming or restarting.  D'oh!

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Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:19 PM
To: Jeff Lightner; ko.kur...@in.ibm.com;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel
Alljobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Instead of going to actions and cancel, why don't you all just right
click the one job you want to cancel and then choose cancel ( there is
not cancel all in a right click).

( I had to look up what you are talking about because I did not know
there was a cancel all, I just highlight the jobs I want to cancel and
right click)

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff
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Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:15 PM
To: Kurian K Oommen; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel
Alljobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Not that I've ever found.

This is one of my biggest pet peeves with design of NBU:
1)  They put it right next to the Cancel Job button.
2)  They use EXACTLY the same text when asking you to confirm cancel all
as they do when canceling a single job.  
3)  The highlight goes away so you are not sure you picked the correct
option unless you reselect it and don't let the mouse move a hair's
breadth.

What I always tell people is do NOT click Ok on the verification unless
the option you want was still highlighted right before it came up.

Most people do the cancel all at least once before they learn to pay
attention.   

IMHO if you have someone that does the cancel all on a regular basis
they should be fired for being too stupid to live.  Of course management
never does things that make sense.  I worked at a place where we had a
full NIS implementation with master and slave servers.   One putz
routinely pushed maps from the slave instead of the master causing
Production to stop in its tracks.  Instead of firing this bozo
management decided we shouldn't use NIS.   Let's hope your management
doesn't make a similarly enlightened decision regarding NBU.

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Kurian K
Oommen
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:38 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All
jobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All jobs  in Netbackup
Java
Console (Activity Monitor) . ? How ?



Regards


K.O Kurian

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[Veritas-bu] NCVU download for NBU 6.5.1?

2008-12-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
I'm seeing status 23, 24  25 (socket errors) on various backups for the
past couple of weeks but don't know why.

 

Network seems to be OK.   

 

On looking at troubleshooting it suggests running Netbackup
Configuration Validation Utility (NCVU).

 

On going looking for this I don't have it on my master.  The download I
did find seems to be for 4.5 and 5.1.   Is it still valid for 6.5.1?  If
not is there an alternate utility to use?

 

Of course if anyone has an idea why I'm seeing the socket errors on some
backups (different clients and different client types) but not on all
backups I'd appreciate hearing that.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NCVU download for NBU 6.5.1?

2008-12-19 Thread Jeff Lightner
Well I think I figured out the socket errors.

 

We have a backup LAN defined and on the master we have two NICs on that
LAN.  For some reason it appears a lot of the traffic that formerly went
out the first NIC (which is what we have in local hosts files on the
clients defined for the master's name) are going out the second NIC so
it isn't being recognized as the correct name.

 

I was able to make the backups work by changing IP in local hosts on
client to that of second NIC from master.   I was also able to make the
backups work by reverting local hosts to the IP of the first NIC from
master and downing the second NIC so it couldn't use that.

 

Does anyone know what effect it would have if I put both NICs in local
hosts on clients so that either IP looked up would result in the same
master host name?   Alternatively does anyone know a way I can insure
the master uses the first NIC when talking to specific clients?

 

Our intent is to setup auto port aggregation on the master eventually to
try to increase throughput to the Data Domain.   (The master is HP-UX,
APA is network bonding somewhat like bonding in Linux.)  We're not quite
there yet.

 

Also - I found an nbproxy process with nothing but CLOSE_WAITS to the
various hosts that had had the socket errors.  I had to kill -9 that to
make it go away.  Does anyone know where I can find info on this
nbproxy.  It was a child of other nbproxy processes and seeing it only
had CLOSE_WAITS on it made me think it safe to kill.

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NCVU download for NBU 6.5.1?

 

I'm seeing status 23, 24  25 (socket errors) on various backups for the
past couple of weeks but don't know why.

 

Network seems to be OK.   

 

On looking at troubleshooting it suggests running Netbackup
Configuration Validation Utility (NCVU).

 

On going looking for this I don't have it on my master.  The download I
did find seems to be for 4.5 and 5.1.   Is it still valid for 6.5.1?  If
not is there an alternate utility to use?

 

Of course if anyone has an idea why I'm seeing the socket errors on some
backups (different clients and different client types) but not on all
backups I'd appreciate hearing that.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Fw: Question about posting to site

2008-12-12 Thread Jeff Lightner
God, PRESERVE us from bad puns...

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Sounds like you are in a jam.  (Sorry - couldn't resist.)

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This is a follow-up message from the email I sent, that is listed below.
Can you please let me know if this is ok and I will send you the email
with
the link for the survey.
Thank you.

P.S. I am running out of time to get this completed.
Thanks again.

Debbie Lang
Sr. System Administrator
The J. M. Smucker Company
(330) 684-3990
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I would like to ask permission it I can post a survey question. This
survey
is a requirement for completing
my project that is necessary for receiving my bachelor's degree in
Business
Management from Malone University. The survey will be accessed via a
weblink and will be kept completely confidential. Please let me know if
I
can send you my email to post to your website.
Thanks,

Debbie Lang (also Student at Malone University)
Sr. System Administrator
The J. M. Smucker Company
(330) 684-3990

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Re: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA

2008-12-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
We saw lots of issues with RMAN backups until we upgrade the clients to
match the master when we went to 6.x.

 



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA

 


You are on the right track. 
Try upgrading the clients, there have been a number of upgrades to the
java software. 
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Hi all

Just a quick one for confirmation, I upgraded an environment weekend
just gone from 5.1MP6 to 6.5.1.

Our DBA's are informing me that they are having issues launching jbpSA
from the oracle clients.

Clients are still at 5.1 MP6 so I guess this is to be expected due to
version incompatibility?

Cheers

Dave



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Re: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA

2008-12-08 Thread Jeff Lightner
I don't recall the details as it has been some time ago.   We didn't
really spend a lot of time troubleshooting.  Once we saw RMAN issues
happening right after the NBU master (and all the Media Servers) had
been upgraded we decided it made sense to upgrade the clients that were
running RMAN backups to same NBU version since the Oracle backup type is
a special one.  Once we did the upgrade to match client to master the
RMAN backups ran find so we never had to go any further.

 



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Cheers Jeff, any specifics as all looks good so far?

 

Would hate to have overlooked something.

 

Regards

 

 

David Clooney

Enterprise Storage Services

 

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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA

 

We saw lots of issues with RMAN backups until we upgrade the clients to
match the master when we went to 6.x.

 



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You are on the right track. 
Try upgrading the clients, there have been a number of upgrades to the
java software. 
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Distributed Services
Pepcoholdings, Inc.
701 Ninth St NW
Washington DC 20068
202-331-6619







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Hi all

Just a quick one for confirmation, I upgraded an environment weekend
just gone from 5.1MP6 to 6.5.1.

Our DBA's are informing me that they are having issues launching jbpSA
from the oracle clients.

Clients are still at 5.1 MP6 so I guess this is to be expected due to
version incompatibility?

Cheers

Dave



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows media server OFFLINE - RESOLVED

2008-12-05 Thread Jeff Lightner
OK despite the fact that communication between the media server and the
master (and vice versa) worked with ping, telnet to bpcd port etc... all
indications from both sides indicated complaints about EMM.   However,
tpconfig -d and vmdareq -a suggested by troubleshooting guide were both
run on master with no issue and all commands worked to our other media
servers which were all HP-UX.

 

In troubleshooting we saw the Java GUI hang when trying to get into
media server view even if we chose a different media server from list.
The vendor, Datalink, suggested this indicated an issue on the master
and suggested a reboot as none of our testing had shown any clear
indication as to the issue.

 

The reboot of the master did in fact resolve the problem even though it
isn't clear why it did.   

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows media server OFFLINE

 

When running vmoprcmd on my UNIX master it shows my windows media server
OFFLINE.   Both are running NBU 6.5.1

 

The media server's name is atmbks01.

 

I attempted to run vmoprcmd -activate_host -h atmbks01 which resulted
in:

  EMM database error (196)

 

I also ran vmoprcmd -hoststatus -h atmbks01 which resulted in:

  Unable to get EMM server name

  failed to initialize a connection to the Enterprise Media Manager
(189)

 

The troubleshooting guide doesn't give a lot but I've checked what it
says.   I also ran a  vxlogview on the nbemm from the time I started an
activate_host to the point it errored out as follows:

Ran vxlogview -o nbemm -b 12/04/2008 12:08:43 PM -e 12/04/2008
12:10:54 PM to see log entries created by nbemm.

 

While this does show me some information about not being able to reach a
previously retired media server (which was UNIX rather than Windows) it
doesn't mention anything about the one I was attempting to reach.

 

So far as I can determine all relevant services are running on the
Windows Media server.   I had rebooted it to see if that would help but
it didn't.   Does anyone have any ideas?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5.1Mp4 with Mcafee 8.5 or 8.0 - windows2k3 freeze the windows server

2008-12-05 Thread Jeff Lightner
Of course the fact that Symantec makes their own anti-virus product has
nothing to do with the fact that NBU has issues with someone else's.
:-)

 

We're using Symantec Anti-virus here and having no issues by the way.

 



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Jonathan
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5.1Mp4 with Mcafee 8.5 or 8.0 -
windows2k3 freeze the windows server

 

 

I'm running several Master / Media with NBU 5.1 - 6.5.3 and McAfee 8.0
without issue.  I haven't gotten around to upgrading to 8.5 yet, but
when we first installed we went into EPO an disabled the on access scan
for the Netbackup Application, DSU and DSSU volumes.  Try turning off
the on-access scan and see if that resolves your issue.  Its caused us
plenty of grief here on a variety of servers.

 

-Jonathan

 



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2k3 freeze the windows server


Hi Folks, 

We have a strange problem in our environment, with the Windows 2k3
server, with the Mcafee recenlty upgraded from 4.5 to 8.5  during the
backup hours when the no. of backup jobs is high the server is very
sluggish in performance  the most of the backup job fails with required
resourses are unavailable, so many time the jobs also fails with the
storage unit unavailable. 

If we stop/disable the Mcafee Antivirus  reboot the server, and then
re-run the backup , every thing works like charm as usual. 

We have opened a ticket with the Mcafee  also to veritas, there is no
proper response  point each other. 

Do any one face such issue on the windows media server? is there any fix
for this.? 

Master server : solaris - Metbackup 5.1MP4 
Media server - solaris  win 2k3 5.1Mp4 

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[Veritas-bu] List of processes

2008-12-04 Thread Jeff Lightner
Could someone send me a list of the processes that should actually be
running on a Windows 6.5.1 media server?  I had lists for 5.1 and 6.0
but not for 6.5.  

 

e.g. for 6.0 I had:

  Netbackup Compatibility Service

  Netbackup Device Manager

  Netbackup Client Service

  Netbackup Notification Service

  Netbackup Serivce Layer

  Netbackup Service Monitor

  Metbackup Volume Manager

NOTE:  Job Manager and Policy Execution Manager should NOT be
running.
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[Veritas-bu] Windows media server OFFLINE

2008-12-04 Thread Jeff Lightner
When running vmoprcmd on my UNIX master it shows my windows media server
OFFLINE.   Both are running NBU 6.5.1

 

The media server's name is atmbks01.

 

I attempted to run vmoprcmd -activate_host -h atmbks01 which resulted
in:

  EMM database error (196)

 

I also ran vmoprcmd -hoststatus -h atmbks01 which resulted in:

  Unable to get EMM server name

  failed to initialize a connection to the Enterprise Media Manager
(189)

 

The troubleshooting guide doesn't give a lot but I've checked what it
says.   I also ran a  vxlogview on the nbemm from the time I started an
activate_host to the point it errored out as follows:

Ran vxlogview -o nbemm -b 12/04/2008 12:08:43 PM -e 12/04/2008
12:10:54 PM to see log entries created by nbemm.

 

While this does show me some information about not being able to reach a
previously retired media server (which was UNIX rather than Windows) it
doesn't mention anything about the one I was attempting to reach.

 

So far as I can determine all relevant services are running on the
Windows Media server.   I had rebooted it to see if that would help but
it didn't.   Does anyone have any ideas?
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Re: [Veritas-bu] drives on HP-UX

2008-11-18 Thread Jeff Lightner
Did you run insf -e after you ran the ioscan?  On HP the ioscan will
detect the new hardware but doesn't create the device files
(/dev/rmt/*).  You have to run insf -e to install do that.  After
you've done that running ioscan again will show the hardware paths to
the drives associated with the devices to the device  file paths to the
drives.

 



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Hi All, 

 Need help on configuring the tape drives on HP-UX media server.
ioscan -C tape on HP-UX is showing me the new drives zonned with the
server. But the tpautoconf -t is not showing any drive. I am new to
HP-UX. Please help in getting the drives configured. 

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[Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800)

2008-11-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
We saw this morning on a backup of MS-Exchange to Data Domain.  

 

I see a prior question about this to a Falcon store with no answer.

 

The Data Domain volume isn't down but is running over 90%.  Would we
see this message if the intended backup wouldn't fit in the remaining
space of the DD?  Or is this somehow a complaint about the volume on the
Exchange server itself?
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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to find out who cancelled a Backup in NBU

2008-11-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
SUN = Solaris = UNIX

 



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Windows?  UNIX?

Steve




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Folks I have searched many many logs on my SUN box but I can't seem to
find out who cancelled a job this morning at 443 AM. Do you Gurus know
of a way to do this??? Thanks.

 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800)

2008-11-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
You get the error Judy posted or the one I posted?

 

By master you mean the NBU master?

 



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volume is down resource request failed (800)

 

I get this error every now and then with our exchange environment. We
get it when we fail over the exchange cluster to another node. I set the
disk storage units on the exchange server as an app cluster and the
disks as a resource in windows. The disks fails over fine and the app
cluster points to the right media server but it still fails on 800. Very
annoying only way I can get it working is by recycling the master
server. Recycling the netbackup service on the exchange server does not
good. 

 



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volume is down resource request failed (800)

 

Wow I have been working on 800's and had a bunch last night.

 

Don't know if this the same but let me tell you what I know.

 

I had a bunch of jobs work if the master/media server did them

Anything done by my other media server or my san media server failed
with 800

 

They are trying to tell me it is because I have the san disk drives on
my master server on the same FC card as my san tape drives.

 

I could not get that fixed the same day, but I bounced all the media
servers, then bounced the services on the master again, and restarted an
800 failure and it worked for 2 days.

Then I had 800's again last night.

 

I am putting in a third FC card today and setting the disk drives on 2
of the fc cards and the tape drives will be on the third,   then I can
see if I have any more issues.

 

Master/media AIX 5.3.6

Media AIX 5.3.6

San Media windows 2003

Sane Media windows 2003

 

Netbackup 6.5.2a

 

What pointed us to this is the following errors found in the syslog

 

syslog.debug:Jun 18 09:29:13 kwibsp03 daemon:info tldcd[520196]:
tldcd.c.2699, n

ewfd = INVALID_SOCKET, newfd=-1, timersig=1, error=4, EINTR=4,
selectret=-1

 



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is down resource request failed (800)

 

We saw this morning on a backup of MS-Exchange to Data Domain.  

 

I see a prior question about this to a Falcon store with no answer.

 

The Data Domain volume isn't down but is running over 90%.  Would we
see this message if the intended backup wouldn't fit in the remaining
space of the DD?  Or is this somehow a complaint about the volume on the
Exchange server itself?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to find out who cancelled a Backup in NBU

2008-11-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
D'oh! I should know better than that - I just had a class at end of last
month that had SUN x86 boxes running Linux so I guess it is possible to
have Windows on Sun as well.

 



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SUN = Solaris = UNIX

 



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Windows?  UNIX?

Steve





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Folks I have searched many many logs on my SUN box but I can't seem to
find out who cancelled a job this morning at 443 AM. Do you Gurus know
of a way to do this??? Thanks.

 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800)

2008-11-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
Not quite the same.  800 is fairly generic so you have to look at the
specific reason code (Disk volume is down in my case) to troubleshoot.
Unfortunately I can't find much that talks about this and what little
that does isn't really telling me whether it is complaining about a
source disk volume (i.e. The Exchange servers' Information Store) or the
target disk (i.e. the Data Domain CIFS mount on the media server).

 

Troubleshooting suggests running disk logs report.  Running it for the
media server at the time of the failure of one of the jobs produces no
entity but running default produces 3 events like the following this
morning BEFORE that time.  Unfortunately I'm not real sure what this
means:

 

Fri Nov 14 04:46:03 EST 2008

atmbks01

 

0

Warning

Volume NT_atmbks01_atldd02:Internal_16 monitored by atmbks01 is down
S{cl-2060017} 

atmbks01 = Windows Media Server

atldd02 = Data Domain

NT_atmbks01_atldd02= Defined storage unit for when using this Data
Domain on this Media Server

 

Not sure what the Internal_16 means.   Anyone have a clue?  Device
monitor only shows me tape drives.

 

FYI:  This is all NBU 6.5.1 - Master is HP-UX but backup is run via the
Windows media server noted above.  

 



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Wow I have been working on 800's and had a bunch last night.

 

Don't know if this the same but let me tell you what I know.

 

I had a bunch of jobs work if the master/media server did them

Anything done by my other media server or my san media server failed
with 800

 

They are trying to tell me it is because I have the san disk drives on
my master server on the same FC card as my san tape drives.

 

I could not get that fixed the same day, but I bounced all the media
servers, then bounced the services on the master again, and restarted an
800 failure and it worked for 2 days.

Then I had 800's again last night.

 

I am putting in a third FC card today and setting the disk drives on 2
of the fc cards and the tape drives will be on the third,   then I can
see if I have any more issues.

 

Master/media AIX 5.3.6

Media AIX 5.3.6

San Media windows 2003

Sane Media windows 2003

 

Netbackup 6.5.2a

 

What pointed us to this is the following errors found in the syslog

 

syslog.debug:Jun 18 09:29:13 kwibsp03 daemon:info tldcd[520196]:
tldcd.c.2699, n

ewfd = INVALID_SOCKET, newfd=-1, timersig=1, error=4, EINTR=4,
selectret=-1

 



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Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:36 AM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800,EMM status: Disk volume
is down resource request failed (800)

 

We saw this morning on a backup of MS-Exchange to Data Domain.  

 

I see a prior question about this to a Falcon store with no answer.

 

The Data Domain volume isn't down but is running over 90%.  Would we
see this message if the intended backup wouldn't fit in the remaining
space of the DD?  Or is this somehow a complaint about the volume on the
Exchange server itself?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] What are your thoughts on filesystem monitoring?

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
My opinion is that it is better to use exclude lists.  That way you have
to be explicitly told NOT to back something up rather than be told you
SHOULD back it up.

When the day comes to do a restore it won't matter that you had a policy
that they needed to tell us about new filesystems - you'll get the
blame for not having backed it up because its your job to do the
backups.  

By doing the excludes and forcing them to tell you NOT to back it up
you'll have an email to point at if someone later asks why it wasn't
backed up.

Of course you could get rather broad in the exclude.  Our policy here
is we don't back up test/dev Oracle files and databases unless
specifically requested and JUSTIFIED.  This is on the theory that one
can always recover a test/dev environment by refreshing from the
associated Production environment and that we have limited backup
resources and windows.

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The majority of our NFS mounts are not backed up on the server that's
mounting them.

We have cross mountpoints checked but follow nfs unchecked.

We mount all NFS servers to a central machine and back it up there.  We
consider this more managable than trying to decide on what server a
multiply-shared nfs mount will get backed up and where it should be
excluded.  For example, a common filesystem for us is used to distribute
software across nearly a hundred servers.  To backup it up 100 times
would be insane.

We really need to consider changing from a central NFS backup server to
using the NDMP method of backups but haven't implemented yet.

-M

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Good thoughts here...  thank you!

One other question.  What about NFS mounts?  we have had to explicitly
list those in the policy else we just backup a place holder filesystem
folder with no data in it.

Is it better to just have the backup selections for a Unix F/S backup as
/ and select Follow NFS and cross mount points or am I asking for
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
We've been using two DDs for a year now.  Its deduplication/compression
claims are valid.   We use one for UNIX backups and one for Linux
backups.

 

We've had some challenges because we'd intended to do fibre but found
out the fibre options for DD are extra but got left out of our original
order.   Due to that we've pushed most of our traffic over GigE instead.

 

We recently bought a much larger DD with an eye to moving our Production
Oracle DB backup to it.

 



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We have been running Data Domain since last March, and it is working
well. 
we are getting bytes/storage used of 19.6   
We are not using VTL.   
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Thanks to the folks that commented on EMC's Avamar, it was helpful. 
  
I'm curious now about DataDomain  Quantum DXi. 
  
We run XioTech SANs and they're bundling a DD960(something) head on to
the XioTech SAN. 
We're also using ADIC (now Quantum) for our Tape hardware. So those two
bubbled up to the top. 
  
I'm meeting with our Quantum sales  engineer guys on Monday to talk
about it, and I was watching a DD/XioTech webinar about their offering
that looks cool. Both look appealing. 
  
I'm curious for the dedup users out there what your experience has been
with either DD or Quantum. 
  
I've been poking through Curtis' blogs about the subject, so I get it
that the Quantum can do either inline or post, and the DD is pure
inline. My RPO isn't as critical (most of my users are happy with the
prior night's data), so PostProcessing isn't a game-changer. 
  
Thanks, 
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] which 64bit client to use

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
From a Linux standpoint IA64 = Itanium (very specialized and only runs
64 bit) and x86_64 = the 64 bit x86 compatible stuff (more generic) from
Intel and AMD that can run 32 bit apps.

IA64 != EM64T - you're using the x86 based chip when using EM64T.

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I cannot remember the name of the processors but the IA is for some add
processors that I have never had like Athlon or Irex or somesuch.

I learned from Support the most normal windows servers is the NONE IA
win64 client.

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does anyone know which 64bit client to use (6.0 mp6) for an IBM 3850 m2
with em64t intel processors.  has win2003 x64 sp2. i tried the IA64
install and it says that it's not for this hardware.  i ran the setup
for amd 64 install and it looks like it might install.  is that right?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
Oops - meant to say we use one for UNIX/Linux backups and one for
Windows backups.

 



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We've been using two DDs for a year now.  Its deduplication/compression
claims are valid.   We use one for UNIX backups and one for Linux
backups.

 

We've had some challenges because we'd intended to do fibre but found
out the fibre options for DD are extra but got left out of our original
order.   Due to that we've pushed most of our traffic over GigE instead.

 

We recently bought a much larger DD with an eye to moving our Production
Oracle DB backup to it.

 



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We have been running Data Domain since last March, and it is working
well. 
we are getting bytes/storage used of 19.6   
We are not using VTL.   
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Carl Stehman
Distributed Services
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Thanks to the folks that commented on EMC's Avamar, it was helpful. 
  
I'm curious now about DataDomain  Quantum DXi. 
  
We run XioTech SANs and they're bundling a DD960(something) head on to
the XioTech SAN. 
We're also using ADIC (now Quantum) for our Tape hardware. So those two
bubbled up to the top. 
  
I'm meeting with our Quantum sales  engineer guys on Monday to talk
about it, and I was watching a DD/XioTech webinar about their offering
that looks cool. Both look appealing. 
  
I'm curious for the dedup users out there what your experience has been
with either DD or Quantum. 
  
I've been poking through Curtis' blogs about the subject, so I get it
that the Quantum can do either inline or post, and the DD is pure
inline. My RPO isn't as critical (most of my users are happy with the
prior night's data), so PostProcessing isn't a game-changer. 
  
Thanks, 
  
~ Robin 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
Ouch!   

Funny - it made me lookup up DD's symbol - Their NASDAQ symbol is DDUP.  
Gotta love that.

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if you can wait a little while , there will be some interesting solutions in 
this arena soon. 


Robin Small wrote:
 Thanks to the folks that commented on EMC's Avamar, it was helpful. 
 
 I'm curious now about DataDomain  Quantum DXi.  
 
 We run XioTech SANs and they're bundling a DD960(something) head on to the 
 XioTech SAN. 
 We're also using ADIC (now Quantum) for our Tape hardware. So those two 
 bubbled up to the top. 
 
 I'm meeting with our Quantum sales  engineer guys on Monday to talk about 
 it, and I was watching a DD/XioTech webinar about their offering that looks 
 cool. Both look appealing. 
 
 I'm curious for the dedup users out there what your experience has been with 
 either DD or Quantum. 
 
 I've been poking through Curtis' blogs about the subject, so I get it that 
 the Quantum can do either inline or post, and the DD is pure inline. My RPO 
 isn't as critical (most of my users are happy with the prior night's data), 
 so PostProcessing isn't a game-changer. 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 ~ Robin


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3

2008-11-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
The Twelfth of Nover... :p

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FYI / I just got a note from Symantec that First Availability of 6.5.3
will be on Nov 12th.

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