Re: [Veritas-bu] Duplication / expiring image question
Typically we wouldn't promote the duplicate (copy 2) to primary first. We'd simply set its retention: bpexpdate -backupid backupID -d infinity -copy 2 Then for the original (copy 1) we'd set it to expire immediately: bpexpdate -backupid backupID -d 0 -copy 1 We wouldn't specify media at all as what we're interested in is the images (which is what the backupid refers to) not the media. Once all images on a given media are expired then the media itself expires automatically. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour, Wayne Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:22 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Duplication / expiring image question Our environment, NBU 6.5.4 running on HP-UX 11-31 with a Data Domain VTL and MSL6060 tape library. Our tape library wasn't connected when we ran our yearly backups and now that it is, I'm in the process of duplicating the yearly backups from the VTL to tape to be moved offsite. I am going through my process to insure I don't miss any data in the move and only remove the original of the duplicated data. I have duplicated what was backed from one policy and set the copy as primary. In the example below, the original was backed up to D11233 and then duplicated to 000789. # # bpimagelist -d 01/02/2010 -sl dbn-pkg02-arch-bcv-yf IMAGE yos_sam1 0 0 8 yos_sam1_1262415605 dbn-pkg02-arch-bcv-dd 0 *NULL* root dbn-pkg02-arch-bcv-yf 0 8 1262415605 1296 1483167605 0 0 16501472 1826 2 2 0 dbn-pkg02-arch-bcv-dd_1262415605_FULL.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 2 0 0 0 *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 *NULL* 0 0 0 *NULL* 438265 1 0 198706 0 0 *NULL* *NULL* 0 0 HISTO -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 FRAG 1 1 16501472 0 2 6 1 D11233 yos_sam1 65536 2 0 1 0 *NULL* 1483167605 0 65544 0 0 0 1 0 1262416901 0 *NULL* FRAG 2 1 16501472 0 2 14 1 000789 yos_sam1 65536 2 0 14 0 *NULL* 1483167605 0 65544 0 0 0 1 0 1262810326 0 *NULL* # What I now need to do is expire the D11233 VTL tape and leave the 000789 one alone. After I RTFM I think the command below should do what I want but would like some verification before pulling the trigger: # bpexpdate -backupid yos_sam1_1262415605 -m D11233 -d 0 Can anyone see a problem with the above, will it only remove the images on D11233 for the backup id of yos_sam1_1262415605 and leave anything else alone? Is there better way to do this? Thanks in advance Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 248-447-1739 Internet: wbed...@lear.com ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] jnbSA NOT working from OpenSuse Box
When you use -X you're telling it to open an ssh tunnel. Typically that sets the DISPLAY variable and updates the $HOME/.Xauthority file on the host and for the user to which you're attaching. Due to this you should NOT set the DISPLAY variable after login as it is the tunnel session that sets it for you. Also if your login is as one user (e.g. ssh -X waleed) but you're trying to su - root after the login then this DISPLAY variable and the .Xauthority aren't valid for the new user. In that case your procedure should be something like this: 1) ssh -X waleed@netbackup server name or IP 2) echo $DISPLAY 3) Copy the DISPLAY value into your buffer. 4) su - (or su - root or sudo su - or sudo su - root - however you normally become root) 5) export DISPLAY=value copied in step 3 6) export XAUTHORITY=/home/waleed/.Xauthority (or wherever the home directory of the user you initially logged in as is). I've seen that ssh tunnels don't set display for root on some hosts (e.g. HP-UX). If all the above fails then you can do it the old fashioned way: 1) xhost + ip or hostname of your netbackup server 2) ssh waleed@netbackup server name or IP 3) su - (or...) 4) export DISPLAY=ip of your suse box:0.0 For this method you have to be sure ports in the 6000 range are open in any firewall between the suse box and the netbackup server (including iptables if it is running). From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Waleed Harbi Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:25 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] jnbSA NOT working from OpenSuse Box Hi, I am new to Netbackup, I have Solaris 10 Netbackup server, and I want run jnbSA from that server remotely using ssh -X in Linux but I faced Java error message about X11 forwarding even I configured DISPLAY variable, from other hand in Windows worked fine using Netbackup-Java GUI. Any suggestion? Is there Netbackup-Java GUI avalibe for Linux box to connect Netbackup server? --- Best wishes, Waleed Harbi --- Try not to become a man of success but rather try to become a man of value. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows)
There's no need to erase scratch tapes. When they are scratch then they will be overwritten the next time NBU uses them. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jimenez, Daniel Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:04 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows) Hey guys Does anyone have a quick erase script for Netbackup 6.5.3.1 (Windows 2003 Enterprise server)? I would like to be able to schedule the script to find all scratch tapes and run a quick erase on these tapes on a weekly basis. In addition, we have Unix utilities on the box so we can use these commands on the server. Any assistance would be appreciated, thanks. Daniel Jimenez Data Protection Team Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows)
We use Data Domain here and haven't seen that. Are you running image cleanup jobs in NBU? From: Jimenez, Daniel [mailto:daniel.jime...@owb.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:45 PM To: Jeff Lightner; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows) Jeff When you use Data Domain DDR's if one of the tapes becomes scratch and is not re-used right away, they hold data that is not cleaned up on the DDR until they are used or quick erased so there can be a few GB's or several hundred GB's that can be sitting on the DDR that can be cleaned up. Which is why we are looking for a script. Daniel Jimenez Data Protection Team From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlight...@water.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:34 AM To: Jimenez, Daniel; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows) There's no need to erase scratch tapes. When they are scratch then they will be overwritten the next time NBU uses them. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jimenez, Daniel Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:04 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Quick Erase Script (Windows) Hey guys Does anyone have a quick erase script for Netbackup 6.5.3.1 (Windows 2003 Enterprise server)? I would like to be able to schedule the script to find all scratch tapes and run a quick erase on these tapes on a weekly basis. In addition, we have Unix utilities on the box so we can use these commands on the server. Any assistance would be appreciated, thanks. Daniel Jimenez Data Protection Team Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] General Backup Question: Offsite tape rotation
Generally speaking what we do here is backup to Data Domain then duplicate the image to tape and send the tapes off site once a week. Prior to Data Domain we backed up to tape then duplicated to tape and sent the dupes offsite once a week. There was a time we sent tapes off every day but that was deemed too expensive by the powers that be. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:27 AM To: hkyeak...@gmail.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] General Backup Question: Offsite tape rotation Yes we send ALL backups off site. If you lost the hard drives or the whole building you would only be able to restore to your last full that is off site. (that is if your onsite physical vault withstands whatever destroyed your building). I send my full's and instrumental's off site the next morning. My only fear is when I have tapes brought back onsite for restores... then if I lose the building I would lose those days a well. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:53 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] General Backup Question: Offsite tape rotation I'm deploying a NetApp Virtual Tape Library at work right now, and I have an engineer from NetApp coming in to help me set it up. I was explaining to him how we rotate tapes, and he seemed a little bewildered at our rotation method. I've never done tape backup/recovery anywhere else, so to me, our way is normal, in that it's the only way I've ever been shown how to do this. - - = = Cycle = = - - About 99% of our customers are backed up via policies with the following attributes: * They get a Full backup 1 night a week and differential-incrementals the other 6 nights. * We have an on-site vault where tapes go for a week. After a week, Iron Mountain comes and gets them. * We ship Full AND Differential-Incrementals off-site for 90 days (--- This is the bullet point that bewilders my VTL engineer) In laying out the VTL, my NetApp engineer tells me that he wants to make a virtual library for all Full backups and a Virtual Library for the Diffs. I figured we'd just have 1 virtual library for everything. He explained to me that since we want to write the Full backups out to physical tape, that we need a separate Virtual Library for the Full backups on so that we can enable the Direct Tape Creation feature on that VTL. When I told him I needed to write the Diffs to physical tape also, so that I could send both offsite, he seemed to think that was really odd. He claims that all the other VTLs he's deployed typically look like this: * Fulls are written to VTL, then to tape (D2D2T). The physical tapes are then sent offsite for whatever the retention period is. * Differential-Incremental and Cumulative-Incrementals are written to the VTL, but then they sit there for maybe 2-4 weeks. They are never written to tape, and therefore never sent offsite. On one hand, I kinda understand the logic here. If the definition of Differential-Incremental and Cumulative-Incrementals is essentially differing levels of backups since the last full, it wouldn't make sense to write incrementals out to tape since next week's Full starts the process over again. However, in the SLA I have with my customers, I state that I can recover data from any point within a 90 day window. While the chance is slim, there's always that possibility that I get a restore request to recover a file from 89 days ago. If I'm only sending full backups off site, I'd be able to recover the full backup, but I wouldn't have any incrementals to restore that file to the exact point in time my customer needs. So, I guess my question is: How does everyone else handle incrementals? Do you send them offsite with the Fulls, or do you just have Fulls go offsite and keep incrementals onsite for X retention period? Thank you. - Heathe Kyle Yeakley ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic
Re: [Veritas-bu] Does netbackup the 5.1 client agentbackup(oracle/sql) works with 6.53 master /media ?
It's been a while but it seems to me that once we went to 6.5 on the master we had to upgrade the clients that were running the Oracle to make RMAN backups work reliably. We also had to update the media servers. For standard OS clients we were still able to do the backups from 5.1 so it appears the agents need to be upgraded. This included backups of filesystems containing oracle data (BCV copies) so it was only RMAN that seemed to care. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Greenhough, Fiona Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:47 AM To: suresh_natara...@toyota.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Does netbackup the 5.1 client agentbackup(oracle/sql) works with 6.53 master /media ? Hi I am running in an environment which is using a 6.5.3 master and media servers with some 5.1 clients and for a while everything as fine. Out of the blue we start experiencing problems with database agents and system_state. On upgrading to 6.5.3 all the problems disappeared. The type of errors 14, 13, 40, 41. Also 5.1 unpatched was not the best version on the planet! Fiona From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of suresh_natara...@toyota.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:04 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Does netbackup the 5.1 client agent backup(oracle/sql) works with 6.53 master /media ? Hi, Just want to know your if any one out there who are successfully running netbackup clients in 5.1 version (including the Oracle, SAp SQL) agent backups. in 653 master/media environemnt Because we tried to upgrade our environment one Master server (solaris 9) Two media server (solaris 9) to 653 rest of the media server in 5.1 mixed mode including clients. After the upgrade we ran the test backup of the Oracle /sql agent backup filesystem backup was running fine. suddently after an hour all the agent backup started to fail with error code 54, when we try to run many jobs. We tried to fix it but not successful, so we rolled back to 5.1 now all works fine. Is this an know bug (or) is there a config/tuning that we are missing? Any help is appreciated. Regards, Suresh Natarajan TFS Storage Backup DNE South Campus, Torrance, Work : (310) 468 9308 Cell : (310) 503 0901 mail to: suresh_natara...@toyota.com Tata Consultancy Services Ltd. To read FirstRand Bank's Disclaimer for this email click on the following address or copy into your Internet browser: https://www.fnb.co.za/disclaimer.html If you are unable to access the Disclaimer, send a blank e-mail to firstrandbankdisclai...@fnb.co.za and we will send you a copy of the Disclaimer. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- inline: SGK01.jpg___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Adding a DataDomain VTL need advice
Make sure you understand that fibre for the Data Domain is an add on so costs extra. In our planning we were going to do fibre but didn't order the add on so ended up having to do GigE with NFS mounts instead. To get throughput we wanted we had to work on doing network aggregation. Having said all that the Data Domains work pretty much as advertised and the high compression/deduplication numbers are a reality. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour, Wayne Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:32 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Adding a DataDomain VTL need advice All Our environment HP-UX 11.31 a SureStore 20/700 library with 10 LTO-1 drives, NetBackup 6.5.2 Master / Media server and one Windows Media server using SSO. We are looking at purchasing a Data Domain device, eliminating the SureStore library as it is at its end of life and replacing it with a smaller library. We have no experience with a VTL or what pitfalls or things to look out for while setting up the new environment. Any advice on where to look to gather info, or experiences of what to look out for? Thanks in advance. Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 313-593-9876 Internet: wbed...@lear.com ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- inline: SGK01.jpg___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Command line question
Nice link - wonder why they haven't updated it for 5 or 6. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Otto Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:04 AM To: sm...@peppas.gr; Ed Wilts; Victor Engle Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Command line question The command line equivalents for running the NetBackup reports available in the NetBackup user interface http://support.veritas.com/docs/247902 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of smpt Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:15 AM To: 'Ed Wilts'; 'Victor Engle' Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Command line question I think that he can start with bperror.exe -backstat -hoursago HourToCheck -client client_name bperror.exe -backstat -d mm/dd/ HH:MM:SS -e mm/dd/ HH:MM:SS Or if this is not good, to install NOM. If nom does not cover his need then he must check for commercial software like Aptare or backup reporter From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:31 AM To: Victor Engle Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Command line question On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Victor Engle victor.en...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a command to get a backup a backup history for a specific client over a specific time frame? It really depends on the level of detail you want. Your best general purpose bet is something like Aptare StorageConsole since it keeps a record of every backup job and the directives for those jobs. So if your DBA asks when /ora_backup was backed up, how much data was in those backups, were they fulls or incrementals, and what were the final status codes, you can answer that question. There are various native NetBackup commands that help, but it really depends on how detailed you want the answer to be and what time period you're asking about. The native tools won't answer the question I listed above for data that's beyond the retention level of the active job details which is typically less than a week. If you're dealing with compliance issues and need evidence of backups, you're going to have to deal with a commercial reporting product. .../Ed Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Extending Media Expiration
Suspend wouldn't prevent expiration though it would prevent use of the tape. Also you shouldn't change expiration on the tape but rather the image you're interested in. To determine images for a specific policy in a given date/time range: bpimmedia -L -policy policyd -d MM/DD/CCYY HH:MM:SS -e MM/DD/CCYY HH:MM:SS You'll see backup IDs in the output (typically in form hostname_numericid). For each of the backup IDs bpexpdate -backupid backupID -d infinity (add -copy 2 to end if you're just wanting to do this for your offsite duplicates). From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Snyder, Nicholas A (IS) Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:33 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Extending Media Expiration Greetings- I have a couple of backup images currently on tape set to expire soon. I'd like to prevent NetBackup from expiring this media/backup images as scheduled. I'll need to restore from the tape, and I thought that preventing the tape/images from expiring would be easier than importing upon receiving the tape back onsite. I've tried to suspend the media, but received the following error: Operation to suspend media failed: 31: the media is allocated for use(199) I've also attempted to extend the expiration date on the media with the following: bpexpdate.exe -m 31 -d 09/25/2009 23:59:59 Are you SURE you want to change 31 To expire on 9/25/2009 11:59:59 PM y/n (n)? y Requested media id is in use, cannot process request Is the only solution to import the tape back into NetBackup upon physical receipt (after images have expired)? Thanks! Nick Snyder Northrop Grumman Systems Administrator 937-429-6415 nicholas.sny...@ngc.com Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after tape vaulted
Since you know the completion time and elapsed time from the RMAN output you could figure it out by doing: bpimmedia -L -policy policy -d 06/14/2009 017:00:00 -e 04/27/2008 18:30:00 The end time (-e) is the one shown for completion (padded a little) and the start time (-d) is subtracting the hour and three minutes from that end time (and padding a little). This will show you the backup IDs and the image 1 and image 2 data. The image 2 data is the vaulted tapes. This would show you only the image 2 tapes if the image 1 tapes had already expired. Some people keep a longer retention on offsite than on site. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jared Still Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:12 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after tape vaulted When determining which tapes to recall from offsite, RMAN provides the RESTORE DATABASE PREVIEW RECALL syntax to identify the needed tapes. Here's an example: RMAN RUN 2 { 3 set until time to_date('06/17/2009 08:00:00','mm/dd/ hh24:mi:ss'); 4 restore database preview recall; 5 } executing command: SET until clause Starting restore at 09/22/2009 11:15:21 ... List of Backup Sets === BS Key Type LV Size Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time --- -- -- --- --- 2070190 Incr 0 89.78G SBT_TAPE01:03:42 06/14/2009 18:20:43 BP Key: 2070201 Status: AVAILABLE Compressed: NO Tag: TAG20090614T180051 Handle: PRD_T20090614_db_s21827_p1_t689536853 Media: 002774 List of Datafiles in backup set 2070190 File LV Type Ckp SCNCkp TimeName -- -- --- 24 0 Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59 S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA10\BTABD_60\BTABD.DATA60 37 0 Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59 S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA2\SOURCED_1\SOURCED.DATA1 48 0 Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59 S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA13\ES700I_1\ES700I.DATA1 Notice the Media ID of 002774. So far, so good. The problem occurs when working with media that has been vaulted. What occurs then is the the images on 002774 are copied to a new tape with a different Media ID. Let's say in this case the vaulted tape has a Media ID of 003500 So tape 003500 goes offsite, and tape 002774 is put back in the scratch pool and reused. At this point the RECALL PREVIEW is reporting the incorrect Media ID, because RMAN has no knowledge of the tape vaulting. This brings up some questions I have not been able to find answers to. 1) What NBU command can be used to correlate the old Media ID to the new Media ID? I have examined and tried bpimmedia, bpimagelist and vmquery. No joy. 2) I believe the (unpublished) RMAN SBT API has routines to allow the media ID to be updated in the catalog in the event a tape is copied to a new one which is moved offsite. Does anyone know where the docs are regarding this ( I have looked), and if Veritas makes use of it. I have looked at the CROSSCHECK and CHANGE RMAN commands, but didn't see anything relevant. That doesn't mean it wasn't there however, I just could have missed it. The whole point of this post is to learn how to use the information provided by RMAN to request the correct tapes to be returned from offsite, given a date and time to restore to. Please don't suggest requesting a date range of tapes. We are already doing that, and it is crude and time consuming. Thanks, Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com Home Page: http://jaredstill.com Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after tape vaulted
Well you could use bpimmedia to extract the backup ID for the tape and then use that to find all tapes with that ID but that would be even more of a kluge. Also it would have the downside of not working if the primary copy had already expired while the offsite was still valid. If you're saying RMAN isn't that good at keeping track of things I'd have to say I agree but that's something the Oracle folks should address. From: Jared Still [mailto:jkst...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:30 PM To: Jeff Lightner Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after tape vaulted That's what we're doing now, but it seems rather kludgy to me. It should be possible to exactly correlate the Media ID's. Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com Home Page: http://jaredstill.com On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Jeff Lightner jlight...@water.com wrote: Since you know the completion time and elapsed time from the RMAN output you could figure it out by doing: bpimmedia -L -policy policy -d 06/14/2009 017:00:00 -e 04/27/2008 18:30:00 The end time (-e) is the one shown for completion (padded a little) and the start time (-d) is subtracting the hour and three minutes from that end time (and padding a little). This will show you the backup IDs and the image 1 and image 2 data. The image 2 data is the vaulted tapes. This would show you only the image 2 tapes if the image 1 tapes had already expired. Some people keep a longer retention on offsite than on site. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jared Still Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:12 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] RMAN, Veritas - Correlating Media ID after tape vaulted When determining which tapes to recall from offsite, RMAN provides the RESTORE DATABASE PREVIEW RECALL syntax to identify the needed tapes. Here's an example: RMAN RUN 2 { 3 set until time to_date('06/17/2009 08:00:00','mm/dd/ hh24:mi:ss'); 4 restore database preview recall; 5 } executing command: SET until clause Starting restore at 09/22/2009 11:15:21 ... List of Backup Sets === BS Key Type LV Size Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time --- -- -- --- --- 2070190 Incr 0 89.78G SBT_TAPE01:03:42 06/14/2009 18:20:43 BP Key: 2070201 Status: AVAILABLE Compressed: NO Tag: TAG20090614T180051 Handle: PRD_T20090614_db_s21827_p1_t689536853 Media: 002774 List of Datafiles in backup set 2070190 File LV Type Ckp SCNCkp TimeName -- -- --- 24 0 Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59 S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA10\BTABD_60\BTABD.DATA60 37 0 Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59 S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA2\SOURCED_1\SOURCED.DATA1 48 0 Incr 7113842263 06/14/2009 18:00:59 S:\ORACLE\PRD\SAPDATA13\ES700I_1\ES700I.DATA1 Notice the Media ID of 002774. So far, so good. The problem occurs when working with media that has been vaulted. What occurs then is the the images on 002774 are copied to a new tape with a different Media ID. Let's say in this case the vaulted tape has a Media ID of 003500 So tape 003500 goes offsite, and tape 002774 is put back in the scratch pool and reused. At this point the RECALL PREVIEW is reporting the incorrect Media ID, because RMAN has no knowledge of the tape vaulting. This brings up some questions I have not been able to find answers to. 1) What NBU command can be used to correlate the old Media ID to the new Media ID? I have examined and tried bpimmedia, bpimagelist and vmquery. No joy. 2) I believe the (unpublished) RMAN SBT API has routines to allow the media ID to be updated in the catalog in the event a tape is copied to a new one which is moved offsite. Does anyone know where the docs are regarding this ( I have looked), and if Veritas makes use of it. I have looked at the CROSSCHECK and CHANGE RMAN commands, but didn't see anything relevant. That doesn't mean it wasn't there however, I just could have missed it. The whole point of this post is to learn how to use the information provided by RMAN to request the correct tapes to be returned from offsite, given a date and time to restore to. Please don't suggest requesting a date range of tapes. We are already doing that, and it is crude and time consuming. Thanks, Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com Home Page: http://jaredstill.com Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 installation in Red Hat 6.5
First you need to learn to distinguish what you're running from a Linux standpoint. Typically you can determine the Distro and version by typing cat /etc/issue and on Fedora/RedHat/CentOS you can type cat /etc/redhat-release. You also need to run uname -a as it will tell you the version of Linux kernel you are running and included architecture information. IA64 = Itanium - A special 64 bit chip from Intel - This is NOT the same as x86_64. x86_64 = 64 bit x86 compatible chip (Intel or AMD). i386 (or i686) = 32 bit x86 compatible chip (Intel or AMD). You can run i386 and i686 packages on x86_64 but would be restricted to 32 bit mode on such packages. It isn't unusual to have both i386 and x86_64 packages on a 64 bit machine. You can NOT run IA64 on either x86_64 or i386. It must be run on IA64. You should advise the vendor to quit sending you crap such as the IA64 package you don't need and send you something designed for the architecture (x86_64) you're running OR tell you how to install the i386 package if it is the only one available for your architecture. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of naymyotun Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:48 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 installation in Red Hat 6.5 Thx. I managed to install the required the ICS package now. But when I try to install the package NetBackup_6.5_LinuxRedhat2.6.tar.gz according to my vendor suggestion, I encounter the following error NetBackup server software for the linuxR_x86 platform is not on this cdrom. . Currently the installation server is running on Linux NBU 2.6.18-92.el5 #1 SMP Tue Apr 29 13:16:15 EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux . I downloaded this package from https://www4.symantec.com/Vrt/vrtcontroller# . I also download NetBackup_6.5_LinuxIA64.tar.gz and try install but the same error receive again. But I can't see any package related to X86 for the redhat linux in this https://www4.symantec.com/Vrt/vrtcontroller# link to install the NBU 6.5 installation. But i managed to install this NetBackup_6.5_LinuxRedhat2.6.tar.gz on i386 machine. Pls.advise. James Pattinson wrote: It's true, you do need to install this library and it's documented in the release notes. If you have yum configured you can use yum to install the lib. naymyotun wrote: Hi Guru, I m a netbackup beginner. I just received three packages from my vendor to install the netbackup 6.5 on my redhat 5 development server. ( 1 )NetBackup_6.5_LinuxRedhat2.6.tar.gz ( 2 )NetBackup_6.5_ICS_LinuxX86.tar.gz ( 3 )NetBackup_6.5_CLIENTS2.tar.gz First of all , I install the package 1 and i got the following error message. CPI ERROR V-9-0-0 The 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' compatibility library must be installed before you can install the VRTSpbx package. You can install the 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' library by installing the 'compat' RPM, which you can find on the SuSE OS installation media or on the download section of the SuSE/Novell Web site. The following systems do not have this library installed: localhost installics log files are saved at /opt/VRTS/install/logs/installics-LBhDYy The ICS install for VRTSpbx was unsuccessful. Quitting the NetBackup install. I tried installing the package 2 using the different terminal and I received the same error message. Task Menu: I) Install/Upgrade a Product C) Configure an Installed Product L) License a Product P) Perform a Pre-Installation Check U) Uninstall a ProductD) View a Product Description Q) Quit ?) Help Enter a Task: [I,C,L,P,U,D,Q,?] I Symantec Infrastructure Core Services Installer 5.0 1) Symantec Private Branch Exchange 2) Symantec Product Authentication Service 3) Symantec Product Authorization Service b) Back to previous menu Select a product to install: [1-3,b,q] 1 Enter the system names separated by spaces on which to install PBX: nay Initial system check: Checking PBX installation on localhost not installed Symantec Infrastructure Core Services Installer 5.0 Checking installed rpms on localhost CPI ERROR V-9-0-0 The 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' compatibility library must be installed before you can install the VRTSpbx package. You can install the 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' library by installing the 'compat' RPM, which you can find on the SuSE OS installation media or on the download section of the SuSE/Novell Web site. The following systems do not have this library installed: localhost installics log files are saved at /opt/VRTS/install/logs/installics-kxi6WZ If you want to install, configure or manage another application, type Y to continue... But I checked on the netbackup 6.5 UNIX installation guide and
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape drive monitoring?
We've used this little perl script for years and run it from NRPE plugin for our Nagios monitoring system. It doesn't require NPRE/Nagios though. #!/usr/bin/perl # ## # 122002jda # This script checks the current state of the L700 tape drives ## # Variable initialization--- # $STATE_OK = 0; $STATE_WARNING = 1; $STATE_CRITICAL = 2; $STATE_UNKNOWN = 3; $ENV{'PATH'}=; $ENV{'ENV'}=; $ENV{'BASH_ENV'}=; # Execute the system cmds--- # $OUT = /tmp/$$vmoprcmd$$.out; $list = qx(/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/tpconfig -dl $OUT); open(LST,$OUT) || die Couldn't open $OUT.\n; while(LST) { @format = split(/\s+/,$_); if ($format[2] eq Name) { $DriveName = $format[3]; } if ($format[1] eq Index) { $DriveIndex = $format[2]; } if ($format[2] eq DOWN) { print Drivename: $DriveName DriveIndex: $DriveIndex Is DOWN\n; $clean = qx(/usr/bin/rm $OUT); exit $STATE_CRITICAL; } } close LST; $clean = qx(/usr/bin/rm $OUT); print Drive Status OK\n; exit $STATE_OK; -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Carlos Alberto Lima dos Santos Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:24 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape drive monitoring? look the command vmoprcmd on NetBackup command guide. Carlos Alberto L. dos Santos (TOCA) Eng. de Computação - Puc-Campinas(SP) - Brasil carlos_lis...@yahoo.com.br --- Em seg, 14/9/09, Gravizi, Thomas thomas_grav...@steris.com escreveu: De: Gravizi, Thomas thomas_grav...@steris.com Assunto: [Veritas-bu] Tape drive monitoring? Para: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Data: Segunda-feira, 14 de Setembro de 2009, 17:22 Greetings all, We are currently running NBU 6.5.3 on Solaris 10, and experienced an issue where all of our tape drives on our StorageTek L700 went into AVR mode this past weekend. Can someone give me some insight on how I can monitor the tape drives to notify me when this happens again? Are there scripts out there which I can use, or something in NBU which I can enable? Thanks, Thomas Gravizi UNIX Systems Administrator Enterprise Operations STERIS Corporation - Mentor, OH thomas_grav...@steris.com 440.392.7630 - phone 440.350.7078 - fax -Anexo incorporado- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 installation in Red Hat 6.5
Why does a bundle intended for RedHat would have comments about Suse? Anyway what you need is the compat-libstdc++-296 package. (Note that in this name the 296 is actually part of the package name rather than the version - there will be version information after the package name.) You can install by doing yum install compat-libstdc++-296. Also note if you don't already have xinetd installed you should install it BEFORE you install NetBackup. The installer is brain dead and assumes you have inetd if it doesn't find xinetd which is not the case. If you've already installed NetBackup you should delete it and reinstall after removing the /etc/inetd.conf file it made. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of James Pattinson Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 5:39 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.5 installation in Red Hat 6.5 It's true, you do need to install this library and it's documented in the release notes. If you have yum configured you can use yum to install the lib. naymyotun wrote: Hi Guru, I m a netbackup beginner. I just received three packages from my vendor to install the netbackup 6.5 on my redhat 5 development server. ( 1 )NetBackup_6.5_LinuxRedhat2.6.tar.gz ( 2 )NetBackup_6.5_ICS_LinuxX86.tar.gz ( 3 )NetBackup_6.5_CLIENTS2.tar.gz First of all , I install the package 1 and i got the following error message. CPI ERROR V-9-0-0 The 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' compatibility library must be installed before you can install the VRTSpbx package. You can install the 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' library by installing the 'compat' RPM, which you can find on the SuSE OS installation media or on the download section of the SuSE/Novell Web site. The following systems do not have this library installed: localhost installics log files are saved at /opt/VRTS/install/logs/installics-LBhDYy The ICS install for VRTSpbx was unsuccessful. Quitting the NetBackup install. I tried installing the package 2 using the different terminal and I received the same error message. Task Menu: I) Install/Upgrade a Product C) Configure an Installed Product L) License a Product P) Perform a Pre-Installation Check U) Uninstall a ProductD) View a Product Description Q) Quit ?) Help Enter a Task: [I,C,L,P,U,D,Q,?] I Symantec Infrastructure Core Services Installer 5.0 1) Symantec Private Branch Exchange 2) Symantec Product Authentication Service 3) Symantec Product Authorization Service b) Back to previous menu Select a product to install: [1-3,b,q] 1 Enter the system names separated by spaces on which to install PBX: nay Initial system check: Checking PBX installation on localhost not installed Symantec Infrastructure Core Services Installer 5.0 Checking installed rpms on localhost CPI ERROR V-9-0-0 The 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' compatibility library must be installed before you can install the VRTSpbx package. You can install the 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' library by installing the 'compat' RPM, which you can find on the SuSE OS installation media or on the download section of the SuSE/Novell Web site. The following systems do not have this library installed: localhost installics log files are saved at /opt/VRTS/install/logs/installics-kxi6WZ If you want to install, configure or manage another application, type Y to continue... But I checked on the netbackup 6.5 UNIX installation guide and there is not step to install this CPI ERROR V-9-0-0 The 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' compatibility library . I believe there is something wrong in my installation. Pls. help to advise. +-- |This was sent by naymyo...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you
Re: [Veritas-bu] Frozen Tapes
I concur - I've seen more frozen tapes due to drive/robot failures than due to any intrinsic fault in the tape itself. Also when we DO destroy a tape because we suspect or know it is bad it is only AFTER all the images on it have expired. Remember that there might have been images on the tape before the time it got frozen. There are forensic ways of getting data off of old tapes if it becomes critical. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:02 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Frozen Tapes Not to be a prude, but I don't concur with simply destroying any tape that ever gets an error. 10 minutes of troubleshooting isn't going to kill you and I would add to your troubleshooting list to check the problems report for more information. I've had media frozen because of robotic / tape mount errors, scsi hba conflicts, lack of cleaning and occasionally a bad write. Back in the DLT tape days I saw write errors all the time, but since our switch to LTO3 Media I've only had 5 or so go bad, and that's with me shipping media all over the world and supporting 15+ remote sites. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of bob944 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:21 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Frozen Tapes 1) NetBackup detects Non-NetBackup data format [...] 2) NetBackup detects that [it is a catalog tape...] 3) NetBackup tried to read/write to the tape and [got write or positioning errors...] ... if the barcode and recorded mediaID don't match... if the tape winds up in the wrong drive, ... Assuming I'm correct so far, then is the proper method of troubleshooting Frozen media to: 1) Ensure there isn't some catalog data on the tape. 2) Ensure that the tapes aren't from some other commercial backup product environment's tape pool (for those of you running multiple commercial backup applications at a single site). 3) Make sure your tape drives have been cleaned recently. No matter what the reason, it should be in the logs; IMO, that should always be your first troubleshooting step: find out why it was frozen and go from there. Special mention to: 4) Use bpmedia -m media id -unfreeze to unfreeze the tape(s), make a note of the tape you're unfreezing, and leave it in the scratch pool to see if it gets used for tonight's backups. No. Either toss it immediately, or, if you _must_ try to re-use it or do root-cause, put it in the None pool until you can thoroughly test it end-to-end error-free. But even if it passes, how much of your time does it take to exceed the cost of a replacement tape? How much time/money will you spend rerunning a backup that fails on that tape again? How much time/money/resume' will you spend if you cannot recover a backup from that tape when you need it. (I see Simon has commented on this and I concur.) Now for my question: Assuming I was correct on my selection criteria and my troubleshooting steps, am I correct in saying that if I came in tomorrow and that media from step 4 was frozen a second time, that it indicates that the media is more than likely defective? Is there any other troubleshooting steps anyone would care to add? Kudos for doing the research you show above. But why did you list all those causes but not look in the logs to see which one caused the error and address it directly? If it's a media-overwrite that you haven't allowed, there's no point in re-running; it'll still be ANSI or whatever. Then, why do you have tapes in inventory that you must preserve but rely on a method that's only a mouse-click away from causing someone a disaster becomes a critical question. If it was media errors, NetBackup already made the educated guess of whether it was drive or media (see the manual), and that'll show up in the logs. If it was a cold-catalog-backup tape, that's in the logs but why/how did it get put into a scratch or data pool? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] bplist -l modification time
It gives a warning that the file changed between the time it was selected for backup and the time it actually backs up. Since the initial listing is only a list it can't back that up - it has to backup the actual file as it is when it gets to it. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of root user Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:33 PM To: veritas-bu Subject: [Veritas-bu] bplist -l modification time Netbackup 6.5 UNIX: If large file is being backed up, and it is modified before the backup completes, what info will the 'bplist -l' command show for that file: From the file as it looked when the backup started, or when the backup completed? Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Transition from LTO1 to LTO4
I imagine for the same reasons they bought the new library in the first place (e.g. age of library, support/parts etc...) plus the added reason that it takes up floor space in the data center. Data center managers often frown upon keeping old equipment just in case especially if there isn't a lot of free space anyway. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis Peacock Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:23 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Transition from LTO1 to LTO4 Why not keep your old library for historical restores and put in your new LTO-4 library for current and future backups/restores? Would be easier and less trouble over time. [Wink] +-- |This was sent by dpe...@acxiom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Change server list on windows clients.
Not sure if this works for Windows media servers but you can go into the Java GUI for master and select Media Servers. In there select all the hosts, wait for it to populate OS etc... then right click and select Properties and make your changes there. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of A Darren Dunham Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:35 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Change server list on windows clients. I'm afraid I'm rather UNIX-centric. I've recently inherited a large number of windows client that need updates to the media servers that they'll talk to. Since windows doesn't use a 'bp.conf' file like UNIX, is there some way of scripting an update to the list? Right now I'm having to do it by hand, logging into each one. Right now none of the members of the existing list can communicate with the clients (isolated network). So whatever I'm going to do will have to be local. I'm guessing there's not a single file with this information, but maybe a registry setting or something? Thanks for any suggestions. -- Darren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] nbemmcmd hung
Is it just this command or everything? I've noticed when a catalog backup is in progress everything else seems to be hung until it finishes. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:28 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] nbemmcmd hung I tried Googling and looking at STN but I cannot find the answer. What steps need to be taken when nbemmcmd is hung. I can't believe you need to shut everything down and reboot! Regards, Patrick Whelan VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX. VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows. netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickjosephwhelan Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- image001.gif___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] (1M) in Veritas Unix Commands
These are indications of UNIX/Linux man (manual) pages. The (1M) and the (1) are sections of man. Typically 1 = User commands and 1M = administrative commands. However, it is somewhat arbitrary as to who defines what as what. For me most NetBackup commands are administrative as we don't have users doing things with it. The NetBackup specific man pages are usually in your install directory (mine is /usr/openv) so would be: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies/man /usr/openv/man /usr/openv/java/man If you do ls in each of those directories you can see which man pages each contains. You can add those directories to your MANPATH variable to be able to read the man pages: e.g. export MANPTH=$MANPTH:/usr/openv/man:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies/man:/usr/ openv/java/man That allows you to type man bp for example and read its man page. For more details type man man as the man command itself has a man page. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of karthikeyan.sunda...@cognizant.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:21 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] (1M) in Veritas Unix Commands HI, I could find a Attribute like (1M), (1) in the commands of VERITAS UNIX. What does it mean? Ex: backuptrace(1M), bp(1) Thanks, Karthikeyan Sundaram. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of veritas-bu-requ...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:56 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 38, Issue 54 Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to veritas-bu-requ...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu You can reach the person managing the list at veritas-bu-ow...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: 2 Masters and only 1 tape library - DR Exercise (Cris Rhea) 2. Re: 2 Masters and only 1 tape library - DR Exercise (Donaldson, Mark) 3. Re: 2 Masters and only 1 tape library - DR Exercise (Cris Rhea) 4. Regex in Java console (Khurram Tariq) 5. Re: Million file backup issue (Martin, Jonathan) 6. Re: Regex in Java console (judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com) 7. Re: Regex in Java console (Khurram Tariq) 8. SSO Option for LTO3 drives (David Turner) 9. Re: SSO Option for LTO3 drives (Donaldson, Mark) 10. Re: SSO Option for LTO3 drives (Heathe Kyle Yeakley) 11. Re: SSO Option for LTO3 drives (judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com) 12. Re: SSO Option for LTO3 drives (judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:08:22 -0500 From: Cris Rhea cr...@mayo.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 2 Masters and only 1 tape library - DR Exercise To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: 20090630170822.gg2...@kaizen.mayo.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You're not going to do it without partitioning the library. Hints in another thread suggest it might be possible by using a another software package as an interface but stock Netbackup will limit you to having a library connected to one, and only one, master server. The Master Server holds your volume database, you can't have a tape in more than one volume database. I suppose it revolves around how one defines partitioning the library: Hard partitions or soft (by tape label ranges). We have a Sun/STK SL8500 with ACSLS as the front end and have several (unrelated) Netback Master servers (and media servers) all using the library concurrently. We have not hard partitioned it, but rather have a tape range and specific tape drives assigned to each Netbackup system. We even have several non-Netbackup systems also using the library. --- Cris -- Cristopher J. Rhea Mayo Clinic - Research Computing Facility 200 First St SW, Rochester, MN 55905 cr...@mayo.edu (507) 284-0587 -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:38:04 -0600 From: Donaldson, Mark mark.donald...@staples.com Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 2 Masters and only 1 tape library - DR Exercise To: Cris Rhea cr...@mayo.edu, veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: 4cc4d5aa1741aa43a1fc5084e104a26e0b17c...@uscobrmfa-se-71.northamerica.c exp.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ACSLS, though, would fall into the category of using another software package as an interface. I suspected ACSLS could do that but didn't want volunteer that since I don't have
Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO Option for LTO3 drives
Another vote for SSO. Whoever dedicated the 2 drives per server doesn't understand SSO. The person that suggested they were conservative was being too kind. The adjectives I would use for them would suggest they rode the short bus to school. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jayles Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:37 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] SSO Option for LTO3 drives mdonaldson wrote: This isn't the case. SSO is used to share a single tape drive among multiple media servers. It's the sharing locking mechanism for device sharing. I could have zoned my 20 drives, one each, to my 19 media servers and not needed SSO. What Judy describes is right, though, if I lose the drive zoned to that server, it's not doing backups until that drive is repaired. If you've got SSO licensed, I suggest zoning all tape drives to all media servers (careful - you have to name them correctly via tpconfig or it doesn't work right). You can them limit the number of drives used by each media server when the backup occurs via the max-drives setting I the storage unit (as Judy also said). -M What you mentioned is correct I sell SSO to my customer too In his scenario, suggest to review the whole backup infra, the Share Storage Option is not cheap and do not waste money to purchase if no requirement. Review the infra specially with the resources of the tape drives, then review your backup window. I believe there might be alot of redunacy. Good luck mate! [Wink] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu[/quote] +-- |This was sent by jayles...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Vaulting broken in 6.5.4?
We upgraded to 6.5.4 on Friday and ran a test vault session. We killed it because it was finding images but was not duplicating them properly on the proper hosts My coworker will be calling following up with support this morning but I'm wondering if anyone else has run into this and already resolved it? Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site
6.5.4 64 bit sounds like someone is stuttering... From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Spearman, David Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:40 PM To: 'Cornely, David'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site One of the more interesting things is when I went to load up 6.5.4 linux client update it immediately told me I had to have the nb_jav_654 update available also. Annoying. Once it's there all you have to do is the client update and it automagically sucks in the java update. David Spearman County of Henrico From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Cornely, David Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:34 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site Nice, 64-bit Java console for Windows here we come. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Rosenkoetter, Gabriel Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:29 To: WEAVER, Simon (external); Ed Wilts; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site Well, the post-FA surey email came out today, so it'd stand to reason they're rolling to GA... -- Gabriel Rosenkoetter Radian Group Inc, Senior Systems Engineer gabriel.rosenkoet...@radian.biz, 215 231 1556 From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:13 AM To: Ed Wilts; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site Ed So far, nowt on the Symantec site saying its there Simon From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:47 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.4 appearing on FTP site It's popping up... Logged in to ftp.support.veritas.com. Current remote directory is /pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server. ncftp ...ckup_Enterprise_Server ls -ltr *6.5.4* -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024 12798596 Apr 21 13:59 6.5.4.1_nbccr_319461.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024 11791214 Apr 28 14:45 6.5.4.1_nbcc_319395.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024211869696 Jun 15 07:03 NB_6.5.4.alpha_5_326368.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024253613056 Jun 15 07:37 NB_6.5.4.hp_ux_326369.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024404925440 Jun 15 08:21 NB_6.5.4.hpia64_326370.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024123961344 Jun 15 08:41 NB_6.5.4.linux_326371.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024136454144 Jun 15 08:57 NB_6.5.4.linuxR_ia64_326372.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024113578496 Jun 15 09:11 NB_6.5.4.linuxR_x86_326374.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024126826496 Jun 15 09:25 NB_6.5.4.linuxS_ia64_326375.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024107639296 Jun 15 09:38 NB_6.5.4.linuxS_x86_326376.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024538456576 Jun 15 10:30 NB_6.5.4.rs6000_326379.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024132346368 Jun 15 11:11 NB_6.5.4.solaris_326381.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024131038208 Jun 15 11:31 NB_6.5.4.solaris_x86_326382.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024235464192 Jun 15 11:59 NB_6.5.4.winnt.IA64_326383.exe -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024199543808 Jun 15 12:23 NB_6.5.4.winnt.x64_326384.exe -rw-r--r-- 1 30024 30024208142336 Jun 15 12:46 NB_6.5.4.winnt.x86_326385.exe I expect that there are still quite a few packages to go so be patient a little longer... .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup all files in a folder but not any subfolders
Or to restate that - you can have multiple exclude lists - one for each policy on the client. Just append the policy to the exclude.list its relevant for: e.g. POLICY SERVER-OS POLICY SERVER-DB In SERVER-DB you're backing all of /database/prodDB and all of /oracle/prodDB without any excludes. Since it has a separate policy then you set the OS policy exclude list to exclude it (and possibly other things). An example from one of my Linux hosts: exclude.list.SERVER-OS contents: /proc /sys /database/prodDB /oracle/prodDB /mnt In reality we create separate policies for all databases so the exclude has /database/* and /oracle/* (we don't address other files in these directories as there aren't supposed to be any as they are simply supposed to be base directories for the DB specific directories. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Donaldson, Mark Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:53 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup all files in a folder but not any subfolders Yes, they're on the client, but they can be limited to function on that client for only one policy or policy sched combo. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of dbergen Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:51 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup all files in a folder but not any subfolders I think I am missing something here, aren't exclude lists client based rather than policy based? +-- |This was sent by dber...@cucbc.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Client version
It does for 6.0 versions... Release === 6.0.0.0.4.4 6.0.0.0.4.4 6.0.0.0.4.4 6.5.0 6.5.0 5.1.0 By the way - the formatting is slightly off due to long Linux OS Levels (for my RHEL systems) and also the Release column was a bit short for those 6.0 versions so I modified it as follows: echo Client \t OS Level \t Release echo ==\t =\t === for c in `bpplclients -allunique -noheader | awk '{print $3}'` do bpgetconfig -s $c -L | \ awk -F'=' '{if($1~/Client.OS/){os=$2} if($1~/Client.Proto/){r=$2}} END {printf(%-22s\t%-25s\t%s\n,'$c',os,r)} ' done Nice script Mark. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:19 AM To: mark.donald...@staples.com; sreynol...@semprautilities.com; ewi...@ewilts.org Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Client version Note on Marks script, the command does not show the fourth position on the version 6.5.3.1 all I am getting is 6.5.3. Not that there is anything wrong with Marks script, its just that the command does not show fourth position. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Donaldson, Mark Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:52 AM To: Reynolds, Susan K.; Ed Wilts Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Client version A little late to this party but here's another version. #!/bin/ksh PATH=$PATH:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd echo Client \t OS Level \t Release echo =\t =\t === for c in `bpplclients -allunique -noheader | awk '{print $3}'` do bpgetconfig -s $c -L | \ awk -F'=' '{if($1~/Client.OS/){os=$2} if($1~/Client.Proto/){r=$2}} END {printf(%-22s\t%-18s\t%s\n,'$c',os,r)} ' done From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Reynolds, Susan K. Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:12 PM To: Ed Wilts Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Client version Many thanks Ed. From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 5:52 PM To: Reynolds, Susan K. Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Client version I posted this to the list a while back: r...@osiris bin]# cat get-client-versions.sh #!/bin/sh # Loop through all clients gathering the client version info PATH=$PATH:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd export PATH CLIENTS=/usr/openv/local/client-versions OUT=/usr/openv/local/client-versions.csv [ ! -d $CLIENTS ] mkdir $CLIENTS bpplclients -allunique -noheader | awk '{print $NF}' | \ while read client do echo Client: $client bpgetconfig -s $client -L -A $CLIENTS/$client done cd $CLIENTS for f in * do awk -f /usr/openv/local/bin/get-client-versions.awk $f done $OUT [r...@osiris bin]# cat get-client-versions.awk /Platform/ {PLATFORM = $5} /Client OS/ {OS = $5} /Patch/ {print FILENAME , $4 , OS , PLATFORM } On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Reynolds, Susan K. sreynol...@semprautilities.com wrote: Is there a quick command that can be run that will list the current version of Netbackup for each client on the command line without having to extract the information from the GUI or Administrative Console? Just looking for a shortcut. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA ewi...@ewilts.org Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 93 - DB is Down 6.5.3
Whenever a cold catalog backup has kicked off it seems to stop all other activity in NBU since 6.x. I think it is normal albeit somewhat disquieting when you don't expect it. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:44 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Status 93 - DB is Down 6.5.3 All re: Technote : http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/284164.htm http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/284164.htm I am getting this message, but ONLY when a Cold Catalog Backup of 6.5.3 is taking place!! Surely this is not normal? In 5.1 MP5, even if a Cold Catalog was taking place, Restores were still possible. Could anyone clarify this please? I actually do have Hot Catalog Backups configured to run. Never asked for Cold to take place... Regards Simon This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] In-File Delta Technology
NetBackup is essentially doing file level backups rather than block level so it can't do the in file delta. If you have a need for doing that then you should look at the data deduplication technology out there such as Data Domain, Avomar and others. If you look through the archives you'll see a fair amount of discussion of these including a thread just a week or so ago. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jorge Fábregas Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 3:21 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] In-File Delta Technology Hello everyone, I'm still learning Netbackup (got around 1.5 years working with it) and I'm wondering... Is there a way to perform incremental backups using in-file delta technology (backup only changes within a file)? I've seen a lot of features/options for Netbackup but I have never seen this...If indeed there isn't ...why isn't this type of ESSENTIAL technology part of Netbackup? Just as an aside, I recently started backing up a server that runs MS Virtual Server that has around 9 guests...I back them up at night (obviously after shutting down the guests) and I know 5 of those 9 guests seldomly change but as you can imagine...because the timestamp on the virtual-hard-disks change ...they're backed up COMPLETELY. The end result: I'm almost performing a FULL backup every day even though it's an incremental schedule :( I'll appreciate your feedback. Thanks! All the best, Jorge ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Auditors here again, I've got a question....
To see which media / backup IDs etc... were used for a given policy: bpimmedia -L -policy policy -d MM/DD/CCYY HH:MM:SS -e MM/DD/CCYY HH:MM:SS Where policy is the policy used to do the backup, -d specifies the start of the time range in which you're interested and -e specifies the end of the time range. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour, Wayne Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:36 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Auditors here again, I've got a question Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 with a SureStore 20/700 tape library, one master / media server running NetBackup 6.5.2 backing up mainly HP servers with a few Sun and Windows boxes thrown in. One NBU 6.5.2 SSO media server running on windows. Here is the scenario. The auditors give me a date and a host which I can relate to a backup policy. From the date, they need me to verify the backup ran, the bar code of the tape(s) written to and if the tape(s) went offsite. Can anyone suggest the best command line commands to accomplish the above? Thanks in advance... Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 313-593-9876 Internet: wbed...@lear.com ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Restore to alternate vendor filer
If NBU can be used to read NDMP backups can it be used to bpduplicate them with the target being the new NDMP? -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of william.d.br...@gsk.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 5:39 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Restore to alternate vendor filer We have the same situation - we just kept a Celerra so that we could restore long-retention backups to it if required. I guess that cannot go on for ever as the tape drives will be obsolete and the data mover will break. It depends on the value of the data. If you are on 'best efforts' then you can try as suggested to decode the backup format, by copying the blocks from tape to disk and then having a look at them. At least NDMP only writes 64k tape blocks, so that makes it easier to copy. However you may well have issues about metadata, and if your original share was a dual CIFS/NFS share then you will almost certainly have problems, as there will be ACL information from either NFS or CIFS that may get in your way. The safe-but-slow way is to restore it to a Celerra (you didn't actually get rid of it did you? ;-) ) and then just copy it (CIFS or NFS as required) to the NetApp, or indeed anywhere. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of RKastner Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:54 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Restore to alternate vendor filer Hello to all, i have to restore NDMP backups (several TB) made from an EMC Celerra to a Netapp filer. I know, this kind of restore is not supported by Netbackup and all other backup software vendors. It's an issue of all the different vendor NDMP implementations. But, has someone found a practical solution for this ? Maybe with some third party products. Any hints are highly welcome Thanks in advance Roland William D L Brown --- This e-mail was sent by GlaxoSmithKline Services Unlimited (registered in England and Wales No. 1047315), which is a member of the GlaxoSmithKline group of companies. The registered address of GlaxoSmithKline Services Unlimited is 980 Great West Road, Brentford, Middlesex TW8 9GS. --- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Restore to alternate vendor filer
Did you miss the thread I was replying to? I was thinking out loud because someone wanted to transfer from a EMC Celera to a NetApp filer. It seemed one way to do it that would avoid worrying about formats is to use NBU's duplication mechanisms to do the transfer. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of A Darren Dunham Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:18 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Restore to alternate vendor filer On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:36:49AM -0400, Jeff Lightner wrote: If NBU can be used to read NDMP backups can it be used to bpduplicate them with the target being the new NDMP? Duplication shouldn't be a problem. You don't have to understand a format to duplicate data. I don't see why the target would be a different NDMP device. It won't help anything and should just slow things down. -- Darren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar
NetApp countered the offer by raising their bid to $30/share like EMC's. http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D98J6CN03.htm -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sesar, Steven L. Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:46 AM To: william.d.br...@gsk.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar Also worthy of noting, EMC is making a run for Data Domain. They just bid $1.7B for the company, outbidding NetApp by $300M. Makes me wonder what EMC's plans are for Avamar. --Steve -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of william.d.br...@gsk.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:33 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar I looked in a lot of detail last year at VTLs and disk backup solutions. They all have pros and cons - a lot depends as someone else pointed out on what you are trying to fit it into. If you have to create long term retention tapes the Avamar has a real problem - it is not what it was designed to do, and anything EMC will offer at the moment is really ugly. I'm sure they know that and will try and fix it. As pointed out, if you don't need that it is in principal really good for VM backup as it dedupes in the client, so you can have a greater VM density on your ESX servers, with more storage and not run out of physical LAN bandwidth off the ESX server. We had a demo pair of these appliances, and had no problems doing what it says it does. We replicated transatlantically, and backed up clients elsewhere in Europe. We wouldn't do that for production, it was just we had the 2 demo units in different places. Like all dedupe + replicate solutions, you just need to recall you buy in pairs at least. So the entry cost is quite high if you are backing up a data centre. They come from the Remote Office background, where there a many small sites with modest data backing up to a central site. There are nice features like you can restore from any replica, and there is none of the hierarchy of a NetBackup domain. Both Avamar and PureDisk come from the 'low end' and are moving into the larger sites. As pointed out, PureDisk *client* itself is not yet integrated with NetBackup scheduling - it sends data to the PureDisk appliance, and there is a capability to export to NetBackup to create tape copies. What tends to confuse is that same appliance can act as a Disk Pool for NetBackup, and then it is just another kind of Open Storage, you use it in SLPs and whatever. It can do optimised replication, NetBackup catalog tracks all the copies. There is a plug-in on the Media Server that does the deduplication - so you don't get the in-the-client dedupe of Avamar, but if you position your media servers carefully you can still do good things. You use the normal NetBackup clients. Both Avamar and PureDisk deduplicate across the whole appliance. DataDomain support OST as well as offering straight NAS (as BasicDisk) and also a VTL mode. The issue we found was that a DD appliance could not be accessed by multiple NetBackup domains, so you can't share them. We wanted to put an appliance on Site A that took the local backups and replicated to Site B, and do the same in reverse. No can do (currently). We also wanted an existing Master on Site B to be able to import the replicated images from Site A, without interrupting replication, so we could do DR tests and the like. That is also an issue in some aspects. DD deduplicates within a single unit, so a stack of 16 is...a stack of 16; you need to make sure backups from a particular client always go the same appliance to get best dedupe. PureDisk (strictly the PureDisk Deduplication Option, PDDO) with NetBackup does allow the appliance to be used as a Disk Pool from multiple domains. You would need to be a little careful about free space reporting but it worked fine in demo at Symantec. We could also use SLPs or Vault to create tape copies as required, and as of 6.5.4 you can create the tape copy from the remote replica (assuming you have a remote media server to do it). PureDisk is not a simple appliance you buy - you *can* buy ready-built from Sun - a little advertised fact - otherwise you get the DVD and the licence, and build it yourself on your favourite hardware and disk - so long as it is in all those compatibility matrices. If you do want to end up on tape a VTL may make sense, with all the pretend tape drives and media. I looked a lot at when and how the deduplication is done. Quantum and all the FalconStor clones (like EMC) store the backup initially at 'full strength' and then deduplicate that to another set of disks. They sell that gives you quick restore of the most recent backup - but you do need a lot
Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedicated B/U vlan setup questions
We use HP-UX master for our 6.5.x install and backup many Windows machines (along with HP-UX and Linux). For backup VLAN we just have a separate NIC in both master and clients. We modify hosts file on the master to add the NIC of the clients. We typically specify the client names as clientb and use that clientb name in the policy instead of client. On the clients we specify the backup NIC of the master as the actual hostname of the master.This works for most things. MS-SQL backups require use of the actual database names so that causes a few wrinkles for those backups but for everything else it works swimmingly. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of BeDour, Wayne Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:10 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Dedicated B/U vlan setup questions Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 with a SureStore 20/700 tape library, one master / media server running NetBackup 6.5.2 backing up mainly HP servers with a few Sun and Windows boxes thrown in. One NBU 6.5.2 SSO media server running on windows. The majority of our backups are via direct connected bcv filesystems and very few backups over the network. We are looking at expanding our NetBackup environment to include more windows servers and need to look into setting up a dedicated backup vlan. We looked at this back in the NBU 3.1 days and ran into issues and dropped it. Time to look into it again, any advice / things to look out for / white papers / pointers / or anything else that anyone can share or point me to? Thanks in advance... Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 313-593-9876 Internet: wbed...@lear.com ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SCAN-TLD Randomly appearing on Master and MediaServers
I thought in 6.x it didn't really matter which was the SCAN-HOST - that is to say setting priority is no longer important? From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Marianne Van Den Berg Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:50 AM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SCAN-TLD Randomly appearing on Master and MediaServers The first media server in an SSO environment that starts ltid becomes the SCAN-HOST for all shared drives (status SCAN-TLD). If a drive is DOWN'ed on the SCAN-HOST, another media server becomes the SCAN-HOST for that drive. If services on SCAN-HOST is stopped/restarted, another media server will become SCAN-HOST. Each drive should have one SCAN-HOST. Perfectly normal in SSO environment. Before 6.x you had to do 'vmdareq' on the master to see which media server is the SCAN-HOST for each drive. SCAN-HOST priority can be set per media server: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/295018.htm From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: 02 June 2009 13:15 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] SCAN-TLD Randomly appearing on Master and Media Servers Hi All SCAN-TLD keeps appearing and staying on the Master Server - This is also present on some media Servers. bounced the Services many times, but when I do, the SCAN-TLD seems to move to another Media Server, or back to the Master ! Any ideas - NBU Upgrade 6.5.2 Win2k3 SP2 Regards Simon This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England This email has been scanned for viruses and malware, and automatically archived by Mimecast SA (Pty) Ltd, an innovator in Software as a Service (SaaS) for business. Mimecast Unified Email Management (tm) (UEM) offers email continuity, security, archiving and compliance with all current legislation. To find out more, contact StorTech http://www.stortech.co.za/ . stormcid Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar
Haven't used Avamar but have used the Data Domains. In general I like EMC hardware but their Clariion support is done BADLY out of India IMHO. Prior to buying anything other than Symmetrix to them I'd be asking where the front line and 2nd tier support is. If they tell you India then I'd suggest you move on. It doesn't matter how good the hardware is if you have substandard support after the fact. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Klebba, Don Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:31 AM To: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu' Subject: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using avamar We're a netbackup shop running NBU 6.5.2a. We currently have some data domain appliances that we backup roughly 25% of our nightly backups to. We're looking to go tapeless at some point in time and were considering getting larger Data domain appliances to accomplish this. We're also a EMC shop. Our EMC BURA guys have been pushing their Avamar Solution to us. I must admit it sounds promising, but I'm a little skeptical at this solution. Has anyone had any experiences, either good or bad with Avamar? Don Klebba Quicken Loans Storage Management Team donkle...@quickenloans.com phone: (734)805-7791 Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Data Domain being acquired by NetApp
http://view.mkt2lead.com/?j=fe621670756c05797d12m=feed12787d6103ls=fde 617797267077a701c7976jb=ffcf14 May be of interest for those of you using Data Domain units. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] AIX 4.3.3 Client
We have some ancient HP-UX 10.x systems that we now backup on an old NBU 5.1 install to an old 2 drive unit we have. There is no reason to make the rest of your infrastructure hold back due to ancient clients. Also pointing out that the hardware, OS and the backup solution (and likely whatever app you're running on AIX) is all unsupported might encourage management to think about migrating. It took us a few years of repeatedly mentioning this whenever the environment is brought up to make management think about moving things. A year ago they finally did move the bulk of the old app off to something new and there is a project to move the one last bit off by June. Sometimes System Administration is about extended campaigning rather than quick fixes. You don't have to be in in your face about it on a daily basis but do need to make sure you remind folks whenever the environment is discussed (especially if it goes down for some reason). -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of scott.geo...@parker.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 7:27 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] AIX 4.3.3 Client Greetings all, We have an AIX 4.3.3 client that is naturally unsupported, but still working under NBU 6.0 MP5. We have scheduled to go to 6.5.3.1, but found out that this client (I think it is a 4.5 client) will not even work anymore. Now we have been told that this may put the brakes on the entire project. I am wondering what creative things people may have done to keep their ancient clients backing up. I am just looking for some ideas, and all are appreciated! Scott PLEASE NOTE: The preceding information may be confidential or privileged. It only should be used or disseminated for the purpose of conducting business with Parker. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete the information from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Clear Case Backups
We don't use Clear Case but a couple of ideas occur to me: 1) You can shutdown the Clear Case DB then backup the filesystems or raw devices where it is stored. (We do this for Oracle DBs on vxfs filesystems that we don't use RMAN for as well as one older Oracle DB in raw space - mostly on HP-UX). 2) Most DBs have a dump facility where you can dump out the contents to a file. You can then backup that file. Later you can restore by recreating the schema(s) and loading the DB dump back into the DB. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David Turner Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:25 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Clear Case Backups What is the best way to backup Clear Case Infrastructure? We have 2 servers running Aix 5.1 with Oracle 10g on the db server. We want to use Netbackup 6.5 but can't find an agent for the clearcase db (proprietary db). Just looking for some insight from others. thanks Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup lun Restore
It depends a lot on what you mean by LUN and how you're backing it up. Is the LUN mounted as a filesystem? Is it a LUN on which you have raw database stored? Some other thing? From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of cksteh...@pepco.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 1:25 PM To: David Turner Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup lun Restore Can't you just select the file you want to restore from the GUI and start the restore job? What am I missing? -- Carl Stehman Distributed Services Pepcoholdings, Inc. 701 Ninth St NW Washington DC 20068 202-331-6619 David Turner dtur...@manh.com Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 05/08/2009 01:23 PM To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Netbackup lun Restore Can Netbackup 6.0 restore a single file from a lun?? I have able to backup and restore an entire lun successfully but I am now wondering if Netbackup and parse the lun for a single file and restore that file. thnaks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Looking for Advanced Netbackup Admins
You might hint as to where the jobs are. Someone in Hawaii might want a new job but eschew postings in Alaska. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of jforres01 Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:07 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Looking for Advanced Netbackup Admins I work for a company who is looking for 2 Netbackup Admin's. We are looking for Advanced administrators. Please send a email to jared.forres...@gmail.com if you are intrested! +-- |This was sent by jared.forres...@firstdata.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Looking for Advanced Netbackup Admins
I know how to Google but why should I have to dig for something as basic as location. I didn't ask him to post the company. Also I didn't say I wanted the hint but suggested others might. From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:46 PM To: Jeff Lightner Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Looking for Advanced Netbackup Admins On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Jeff Lightner jlight...@water.com wrote: You might hint as to where the jobs are. Someone in Hawaii might want a new job but eschew postings in Alaska. If you're an advanced administrator, you'll probably know how to use Google. 30 seconds will tell you that Jared Forrester is in the DFW area. He works for a big company and the job may not be in the same city he is, but that would be a reasonably good place to guess. So here's your hint: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/3/b59/a9a .../Ed -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of jforres01 Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:07 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Looking for Advanced Netbackup Admins I work for a company who is looking for 2 Netbackup Admin's. We are looking for Advanced administrators. Please send a email to jared.forres...@gmail.com if you are intrested! Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup long retention does dedup help
Right - it saves you SOME tape (assuming it is not all unique as mentioned below) because you do initial backups to disk and only send your duplicates to tape. While you can get major compression/deduplication on the disk images the duplicates on tape will be the same size they always were because it is undeduped (reduped?) when it goes to tape. It did save us money on tape because now we only have the offsite stuff on tape. You can eliminate tape entirely if you use something like Data Domain (deduplication) as it allows you to have an offsite unit that syncs data from the onsite unit. Of course you'd have to work out what you were going to do for DR in such a model. (e.g. Ship the offsite unit to DR site after declaring or keep the offsite unit at the DR site - driven by whether you own the DR site or not I imagine.) From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:11 PM To: Harmon, Patricia K. Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup long retention does dedup help On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Harmon, Patricia K. phar...@tecoenergy.com wrote: We backup about 45t a week that has a retention of 8 years. We backup to disk and dup to LTO3 tapes with few issues. Except the tape budget is killing us. Anybody out there have long retentions? Does de-dupe help save tapes? We have few restores, so keeping data on disk is not a priority with us. As always, it depends. If you're backing up the same 45TB every week, then de-dupe will be very beneficial to you. If you're backing up 45TB of unique data every week, and the data blocks don't match what you backed up any other week, then you won't de-dupe at all. For example, if those 45TB happen to be tiff images of customer statements, then forget about it. If they're C: drive backups of 10,000 Windows servers, then you'll probably de-dupe very, very well. You need to do a thorough analysis of what the data is you're backing up. The first objective, of course, is to back up less. If you can identify 800GB, and that's only 1.7%, of your data that doesn't need to be backed up, and assuming that you're getting 2:1 compression so you use 1 less tape per week, then you've saved about 52*8 tapes at roughly $25 per tape, or $10K over 8 years. Don't forget that de-duping isn't an all-or-nothing solution. You may de-dupe in some places where it makes sense but not others. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] backup was partially successful. - error codes1
Or because it is a file in the UNIX/Linux sense but not in the backup sense. Examples of these would be Door files in Solaris and anything in /proc on Linux. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:42 PM To: nitin.giz...@wipro.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] backup was partially successful. - error codes1 Look at the details of the job. Usually because a file was busy and it could not backup it up. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of nitin.giz...@wipro.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 11:40 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] backup was partially successful. - error codes1 HI What could be reason for the Backup was partially successful. Error status code as 1. Rgds Nitin Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. www.wipro.com Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Jumping back into the NBU pool
By Solaris do you mean OpenSolaris? These are Intel boxes. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Glazerman Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:34 AM To: Schaefer, Harry; VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Jumping back into the NBU pool Our NBU master is a HP DL385 G2 and our main media server is an HP DL380 G5, both running Solaris 10 and NBU 6.5.1 We used to run our master and media servers on Sun hardware but for the price, these HP's absolutely scream. Mark Glazerman Desk: 314-889-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Schaefer, Harry Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:43 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Jumping back into the NBU pool I have not been a NBU engineer for about 3 years, but may be getting back into the mix soon with a small but useful setup. We have about 12 Solaris 3-4 Win2003 servers we need backed up that are on an isolated network. They will have pretty slender policies which will not require a whole lot of index space. Probably something like 1-2 full's a week with incrementals in between and 2-3 week retention. Anyway, looking for some suggestions on a master/media spec that could handle this. Along with that client load, there will probably be SAN attached disk and a pair of LTO4 tape drives. I don't have experience in small environments and I don't want to overkill it. Any ideas would be welcome. :-) Harry S. Atlanta ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SuSE 10sp2
I've not done it on SuSE at all. If it is a 2.6 kernel probably you could make the RedHat Linux 2.6 client work. Since I don't really know SuSE I can't be sure. A couple of things I have seen on RHEL4/5 clients: 1) You have to be sure xinetd was installed BEFORE Netbackup. Otherwise Netbackup creates an inetd.conf which is useless. I know you say you have xinetd installed. Make sure you have bpcd, bpjava-msvc, vnetd and vopied files in /etc/xinetd.d (assuming it is same location on SuSE). 2) You have to install compatibility package, compat-libstdc++-296, installed BEFORE installing Netbackup. (Note that -296 is part of package name and not the version - there are typically version numbers after the -296). When I did the install of NBU and installed the package after the fact it still gave status 58 errors so I had to remove and reinstall NBU. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of nitabillls Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:24 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] SuSE 10sp2 From this I gather that no one on this forum has been able to make SuSE 10 sp2 clients work with NetBackup. I will have to pursue other options... Thank you all for the discussion. +-- |This was sent by nitabi...@yahoo.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Some Help Please - Status 89 on Win2k3 StandardServer SSO San Media
What version of NBU was this? We’re running sever HP-UX media servers at 6.5.1 without having seen this kind of issue. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Kippen Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:06 PM To: rusty.ma...@sungard.com Cc: WEAVER, Simon (external); VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Some Help Please - Status 89 on Win2k3 StandardServer SSO San Media We started to get lots and lots of status 89s on our hp-ux media server. It ended up being a memory leak and symantec gave us an eeb. should be fixed with 6.5.4 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:50 AM, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote: Simon, 89 is a shared memory error, usually seen on a Solaris box that is not configured with the correct mem settings, or is configured to use too much memory. 41's are usually from the network being ripped away during the backup, usually a shutdown or nic failure of some sort on the client. It sounds to me like you might have a hardware or client OS related issue. Have you looked in the event log on that client? Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ http://availability.sungard.com/ http://availability.sungard.com/ P Think before you print CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. WEAVER, Simon \(external\) simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 03/16/2009 02:47 AM To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Some Help Please - Status 89 on Win2k3 Standard ServerSSO San Media All hope I can have some help here. Logged a call 2 days ago with Symantec, due to the problem with this Server. NBU 5.1 MP5 Master and 6 SSO SAN Media Servers 1 Particular Server had a problem Thursday night with backup issues. It was reporting status codes of 41 and 89. Since then, the Full Backup ran and this failed with 89. The docuemnts seem to show its related to a Solaris box, but this is a Windows SAN Media Server. To the very best, no one has altered or changed anything on this box. The problem first started with restores causing the Server to lose what we call RPC connectivity. The only way to get the Server operating was to do a Power Down and Power On. Since then, its become worse. I have sent over 800mb logs now, and I wanted to post this out on the Forum in case anyone else has seen this. I still have a job running (saying its going to take 227,892 minutes to complete now!) If anyone has any ideas, truly appreciated. Regards Simon This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication
If NBU can see it then you can use the bpduplicate command to copy the image from Data Domain to tape. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of jeff kaplan Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:07 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication Hello- Without using OST, is there a way to get a physical tape copy from a deduped/replicated image? We have a local EDL/3DL replicating (de-duped data) to a remote EDL/3DL. We need to get a physical tape from the remote copy, but it has to NBU-aware. Thanks in advance! Windows Live(tm) Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication
Of course. Deduplicated information is only that information that is not already duplicated somewhere else on the storage device. Once you copy the image using bpduplicate to a tape there is no other copy of the information (so far as the tape is concerned) so obviously it would create a whole backup using duplicated and non-duplicated information from the Data Domain to create it. However, I didn't see anything by OP that suggested he was looking to save deduped information to a tape. I read his post as meaning: There is a backup that went to Data Domain - we would now like to have a tape copy of the backup. The only real trick in what he wrote is how to get the information from the remote Data Domain to the local one. Since we don't do the remote setup here (we use vaulting to duplicate the local one to tape) I don't know exactly how that mechanism works. It may be automatic simply by requesting a bpduplicate of the image or it may require some step on the Data Domain itself. I feel confident however that there is a way to get the data from remote to onsite. Otherwise having a remote unit would be worse than useless. From: Wilcox, Donald A (GE, Research) [mailto:wil...@ge.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:19 AM To: Jeff Lightner; jeff kaplan; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication It is my understanding that Data Domain deduplicated images get blown back up before going to tape, thereby losing the deduplication. Donald Wilcox 1 Research Circle (KWC124B) Niskayuna, New York 12309 Email: wil...@ge.com Office: 518 387-6856 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:02 AM To: jeff kaplan; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication If NBU can see it then you can use the bpduplicate command to copy the image from Data Domain to tape. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of jeff kaplan Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:07 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication Hello- Without using OST, is there a way to get a physical tape copy from a deduped/replicated image? We have a local EDL/3DL replicating (de-duped data) to a remote EDL/3DL. We need to get a physical tape from the remote copy, but it has to NBU-aware. Thanks in advance! Windows Live(tm) Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] question on client names
Resolving search lists doesn't mean they have to be configured correctly everywhere. Just for the server and the client involved in the current problem. That is to say while it needs to be configured everywhere to make each client work when their turn comes in the schedule it is a red herring to suggest that you need to concern yourself with that everywhere when troubleshooting a specific issue. If there's been an everywhere change it will become apparent due to the fact that most of the clients will fail. That kind of global failure due to bad planning can occur regardless of which method you use. (e.g. What happens if all your FQDNs are suddently invalid due to a domain name change?) In a related point: If you use short names and search lists then you don't have to go edit all your policies with new domain names if they change (and on occasion they do especially in mergers/acquisitions). You just have to edit the resolv.conf on each of the servers and clients. That can be easily scripted (as in fact it was here recently when we swapped out decommissioned named servers for new ones). In the very few cases where I've thought difference between searched name and FQDN might be a problem I've addressed it by adding entry to master/media server hosts file and the specific client. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:07 PM To: Stafford, Geoff Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] question on client names On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Stafford, Geoff gstaff...@barclaycardus.com wrote: The need to use FQDNs is, imho, a sign that you don't trust your DNS. I trust the DNS - I have extensive DNS experience and our company would be down without a fully functioning DNS infrastructure. Ours works. FQDNs are a PITA if you ask me and I would rather take the time to make something as mission critical as DNS work right instead of hiding the real problem. FQDNs make it absolutely clear what's going on. Remember, you can't do a backup using a short form name anyway - internally, you're resolving to a fqdn whether you like it or not. You're not only relying on FQDNs, but you're also relying on the search lists configured properly everywhere. You can take all the short cuts you want, but not taking the short cuts saves you headaches later, as MANY people have found out. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] question on client names
We use short names. Also we actually have a separate VLAN for backups so for most hosts we put in a hostnameb short name in the master's host file. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 3:06 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] question on client names At the start we added client names to netbackup as just the short name Now they have been added different domains so now I got server that are a little scattered When I go to do updates I have to do each domain as a group. Not knowing what domain a server is in have to do some commands and make a list. So I was just wondering. When you add servers to netbackup do you use short name or FQDN. If short how do you handle installs on the different domains? Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server
Not doing 6.5.3 yet but from my UNIX (HP-UX) master to install on RHEL5 I do the following: 1) Create a Client policy so it knows what version of the client software (Linux, HP-UX etc...) to install. I select RedHat 2.6 as OS for the that. I do it in the Java GUI. 2) From command line on the master I run (note this is all one line): /bin/sh -c LC_ALL=american; export LC_ALL; /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/install_client_files ssh hostname Note that you need to insure you've installed xinetd package before doing this. Run rpm -q xinetd to see if it is there. If not run yum install xinetd. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of brent4313 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:20 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Problem installing 6.5.3 client on RHEL 5 server Has anyone else run into this? There is 1 pack available in /home/*: (* denotes installed pack) NB_6.5.3 Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3 ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system. There is 1 pack available in /home/*: (* denotes installed pack) NB_6.5.3 Enter pack name (or q) [q]: NB_6.5.3 ERROR: No readable product version file was found, please verify the version file exists and that this pack is appropriate for this system. There is 1 pack available in /home/*: (* denotes installed pack) NB_6.5.3 Enter pack name (or q) [q]: q Exiting NB_update.install +-- |This was sent by brent.degenn...@morris.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups fromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5
OST apparently costs $$$ -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Hickman, Tony Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:02 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups fromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5 There has been a great deal of what looks to be valuable information tossed about on here. I am very glad I posted my original concerns to this mail list. I was out of the office yesterday so I will most likely dedicate my day to decifering some of this information and following up on my problem. Whenever I do get this resolved I will gladly let the list know what steps I have used. Thank you all for your time and responses. B/R, Tony H. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of smpt Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:49 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from datadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5 From what I know, quantum DXi7500 has an option path to tape and sends the data to the tapes from fiber channel. I will implement it to a customer within the next month. Also with the latest firmware, DXi7500 use OST to replicate to another DXi7500 and netbackup is aware of the replication. I don't know if this is over fiber of ip, but the direct duplication to tapes is over fiber stefanos -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of cpreston Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:41 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domaintotapew/netbackup6.5 Wilkinson, Alex wrote: What is an OST interface ? The OpenSTorage interface, a new way to use your Data Domain boxes (and other boxes that support it) with NetBackup. It's not NFS or CIFS, it is its own transport. It is also not VTL. Think of it as a more intelligent DSU. In the case of DD Quantum, the data is sent over IP. With Falconstor, the data is sent over Fibre Channel. With DD boxes (which is what started this conversation), the first improvement you'll get simply by switching from NFS/CIFS to OST is a significant increase in performance. With all systems that support OST, you also get what NBU calls optimized deduplication, where NBU tells one OST device to copy a given backup to another OST device. The OST device (in this case, the DD box) will use dedupe and replication to get the data there. Once there, it informs NBU. Now NBU knows about both copies, just as if it had duplicated it via bpduplicate. Nice, huh? The nice thing that OST is supposed to support is tape-out functionality, where an OST device can copy it's backup to tapes and tell NBU which tapes got which backups. Again, just as if it NBU did the copy. Here's my blog post about OST: http://www.backupcentral.com/content/view/198/47/ +-- |This was sent by wcplis...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backupsfromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5
Actually the new DD OS upgrade alone is supposed to provide better performance. We just did the upgrade and are looking at some other fun facts with HP-UX' NFS implementation. -Original Message- From: Mark Glazerman [mailto:mark.glazer...@spartech.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:12 AM To: Jeff Lightner; Hickman, Tony; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backupsfromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5 That is indeed correct... in the summer of 2008 we were quoted $12,500 per year for an OST license on a DD560 plus an extra $2800 for 1 year of platinum support. You need a license per restorer so we would have needed 2. At the time I understood that it was of more use for folks still vaulting data to tape from the DD's. I understand that when combined with the new DDOS release, OST now provides considerable performance improvements with regard to throughput. We may revisit the idea if the prices have changed. Mark Glazerman Desk: 314-889-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:33 AM To: Hickman, Tony; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backupsfromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5 OST apparently costs $$$ -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Hickman, Tony Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:02 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups fromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5 There has been a great deal of what looks to be valuable information tossed about on here. I am very glad I posted my original concerns to this mail list. I was out of the office yesterday so I will most likely dedicate my day to decifering some of this information and following up on my problem. Whenever I do get this resolved I will gladly let the list know what steps I have used. Thank you all for your time and responses. B/R, Tony H. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of smpt Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:49 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from datadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5 From what I know, quantum DXi7500 has an option path to tape and sends the data to the tapes from fiber channel. I will implement it to a customer within the next month. Also with the latest firmware, DXi7500 use OST to replicate to another DXi7500 and netbackup is aware of the replication. I don't know if this is over fiber of ip, but the direct duplication to tapes is over fiber stefanos -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of cpreston Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:41 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domaintotapew/netbackup6.5 Wilkinson, Alex wrote: What is an OST interface ? The OpenSTorage interface, a new way to use your Data Domain boxes (and other boxes that support it) with NetBackup. It's not NFS or CIFS, it is its own transport. It is also not VTL. Think of it as a more intelligent DSU. In the case of DD Quantum, the data is sent over IP. With Falconstor, the data is sent over Fibre Channel. With DD boxes (which is what started this conversation), the first improvement you'll get simply by switching from NFS/CIFS to OST is a significant increase in performance. With all systems that support OST, you also get what NBU calls optimized deduplication, where NBU tells one OST device to copy a given backup to another OST device. The OST device (in this case, the DD box) will use dedupe and replication to get the data there. Once there, it informs NBU. Now NBU knows about both copies, just as if it had duplicated it via bpduplicate. Nice, huh? The nice thing that OST is supposed to support is tape-out functionality, where an OST device can copy it's backup to tapes and tell NBU which tapes got which backups. Again, just as if it NBU did the copy. Here's my blog post about OST: http://www.backupcentral.com/content/view/198/47/ +-- |This was sent by wcplis...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http
Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain to tapew/netbackup 6.5
You can use the bpduplicate command to copy one backup image to another. The source image can be Data Domain and the target can be tape. If you know scripting it should be fairly easy to create a script that calls this command. Type man bpduplicate for more details on the command. Look at the storage unit options for setting source and destination. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Hickman, Tony Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:27 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain to tapew/netbackup 6.5 Hi, This is the first time for me using this mailing list. This list was recommended to me by someone and here I am. Here is my current dilemma: We went to using a Data Domain device along with NetBackup 6.5 in late December. We do not have the Vault add-on for NetBackup. Currently all of our backups are going to the Data Domain. Our corporate policy requires us to make quarterly full backups to tape. I am trying to figure out how I can copy backups off of the Data Domain to a tape library. I was told that this can be done with the help of some scripts but, I have not been able to find any information on how to do this or where to even begin though my research attemps. I am hoping someone on this mailing list has experience with this process, or is willing to point me in the right direction. Please reply if you can help and many thanks! B/R, Tony H. Recipients in 'Cc...' of this e-mail may not read it immediately and shall not be held accountable for not acting on enclosed information. This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank you. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5
It would have to be a DSU since it is a disk based de-duplication device. Here we use GigE connections to it but Fibre is available (for a price). In our environment we DO have Vaulting so we regularly vault from the DSU to tape for those items that require offsite storage. One alternative to that (which we don't use) is to get a second Data Domain and put it at an offsite location then use Data Domain's ability to copy images directly to the offsite unit from the onsite unit. From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:mark.donald...@staples.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 2:31 PM To: Jeff Lightner; Hickman, Tony; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5 Is the data domain a DSU for netbackup? When you say you're backing up to it, can you give more details? -M From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:51 AM To: Hickman, Tony; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5 You can use the bpduplicate command to copy one backup image to another. The source image can be Data Domain and the target can be tape. If you know scripting it should be fairly easy to create a script that calls this command. Type man bpduplicate for more details on the command. Look at the storage unit options for setting source and destination. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Hickman, Tony Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:27 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain to tapew/netbackup 6.5 Hi, This is the first time for me using this mailing list. This list was recommended to me by someone and here I am. Here is my current dilemma: We went to using a Data Domain device along with NetBackup 6.5 in late December. We do not have the Vault add-on for NetBackup. Currently all of our backups are going to the Data Domain. Our corporate policy requires us to make quarterly full backups to tape. I am trying to figure out how I can copy backups off of the Data Domain to a tape library. I was told that this can be done with the help of some scripts but, I have not been able to find any information on how to do this or where to even begin though my research attemps. I am hoping someone on this mailing list has experience with this process, or is willing to point me in the right direction. Please reply if you can help and many thanks! B/R, Tony H. Recipients in 'Cc...' of this e-mail may not read it immediately and shall not be held accountable for not acting on enclosed information. This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank you. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5
Only problem with the script is OP says he has a Windows master. He'll have to figure out the way VBS or BAT way of doing it. From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:mark.donald...@staples.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 3:42 PM To: Hickman, Tony; Jeff Lightner; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5 If you've got a DSU, then I'd suggest starting with bpimmedia, then. It'll show you what images are on the device. For example...: bpimmedia -disk -disk_stu DISK_STU_NAME -d start_date_range -e end_date_range | awk '$1==IMAGE {print $4}' | tee /tmp/file_of_bpids This'll give you a list of image id's on the DD storage unit for the date range specified. bpimmedia has lots of options for selecting images if you don't want to do it with a simple date range. The awk on the end just snips out the backup image id. Put this list of ID's in a file, copy the file to a safe name, too, then feed the results into bpduplicate with the '-Bidfile' option. bpduplicate -dstunit TAPE_STU -Bidfile /tmp/file_of_bpids -dp DSTPOOL -cn 1 -L /tmp/dup.logfile -set_primary 1 Note: bpduplicate expects to duplicate to a tape on that same media server unless you use the -altreadhost option. This'll duplicate those disk images to a tape, now you have to go back and expire the on-disk images or you won't gain your disk space back. This is why you made a copy of the list of image ID's, the original list is deleted by bpduplicate (I dunno why - it's always done this, though). for id in `cat /tmp/file_of_bpids.copy` do num_copies=` bpimagelist -backupid $bpid 2/dev/null \ awk 'BEGIN{num=0}{if($1==IMAGE){num=$21}}END{print num}'` if [ $num_copies -gt 1 ] then echo Expire: $id bpexpdate -recalculate -backupid $id -d 0 -copy 1 -force fi done So the snipped above reads the backup id's one by one and then checks if the you've got at least two copies of it. If you do, then it deletes the first copy. Note - I'm making an assumption above that you have only one copy of the data backed up and that one copy is on your disk STU. It's possible with other arrangements but easier to make this assumption first. It think it's accurate to what you said earlier. Hope this helps. -M From: Hickman, Tony [mailto:tony.hick...@sbmoffshore.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:16 PM To: Jeff Lightner; Donaldson, Mark; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5 Thanks for the many replies, and my apologies for taking awhile to respond. I just got off of a very long support call with Data Domain and I mentioned the tape backups to the tech I was working with. The Data Domain device is setup as a disk storage unit. It has VTL capabilities but the VTL has not been setup yet. The tech recommended that we setup VTL but wanted me to check with our assigned systems engineer before proceeding. We have one Win 2003 server as our master server, and we have a Quantum Scalar i500 that holds our tapes. Before the Data Domain everything was going to tape. I am not certain just yet if the VTL setup is required to copy to the tapes or not, or if I can just script something out and go? It is becoming increasingly critical for me to find a way to get the backups off of the Data Domain and get them to tape. Currently our retention periods are set at 3 months for all backups. Our corporate policy states we must take the quarterly fulls to tape and archive them offsite. The problem is that we have yet to grab our 4th quarter tape backups for 2008 and we are getting closer to running out of time. Also the Data Domain is nearing it's maximum capacity. So the plan is to get the 08 4th quarter fulls off to tape and then drop our retention periods down to 1 month from 3 month to help free up space. I will do some research here shortly about the bpduplicate command and see what I can come up with. I'm not that great at scripting but I can normally find my way around. I hope the extra information helps. If anyone else has more advise please chime in. I appreciate all the quick responses. Thanks, Tony H. From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlight...@water.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:39 PM To: Donaldson, Mark; Hickman, Tony; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain totapew/netbackup 6.5 It would have to be a DSU since it is a disk based de-duplication device. Here we use GigE connections to it but Fibre is available (for a price). In our environment we DO have Vaulting so we regularly vault from the DSU to tape for those items that require offsite storage. One alternative to that (which we don't use) is to get a second Data Domain
Re: [Veritas-bu] locate database files in clients system level backups
Why not just do a bpflist on the backupid to determine what files it had? What I typically do is: bpimmedia -L -policy POLICY -d mm/dd/ccyy hh:mm:ss -e mm/dd/ccyy hh:mm:ss where -d = start time and -e = end time of the backup you're interested in. Or use bpimagelist: bpimagelist -L -policy POLICY -d mm/dd/ccyy hh:mm:ss -e mm/dd/ccyy hh:mm:ss You can pipe that through grep hostname_ to get just the backupids for the backup. You can then run a bpflist on those images to see which files were backed up: bpflist -backupid backupid from above -d mm/dd/ccyy hh:mm:ss -e mm/dd/ccyy -rl 999 NOTE: If client/media server is not the master then add -client clientname. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Stump, Bob A Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 1:47 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] locate database files in clients system level backups Hello, I have a thousand clients on several sites throughout the U.S. I want to be able to determine if a client has a database on it that is getting copied to tape by a NetBackup system level backup. I thought that perhaps I could use the NetBackup image catalog. I was thinking that I could uncompress and convert the clients image files to ascii using bpcatlist/cat_convert and search for .dbf, .mdf, .ldf etc... in the files. Has anybody done this that could help me get started? Thanks, Bob Stump _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Legal Freeze / Frozen Media
That reminds me of the old joke memo about being on your manager's Special High Intensity Training list... -Original Message- From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com [mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:24 AM To: Jeff Lightner; patrick.swee...@axcelis.com; jmart...@intersil.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Legal Freeze / Frozen Media I have what we call special Long Term Retention. We have a spread sheet that contains info on why. Tape number, type, 1of3, servers, date created, why, person/department allowed to release. It was the only way I could come up with that would allow me to keep track. Iron Mountain also can store open media and for each of these at IM I can put in details about each tape and get a report from them if needed. It is a little work, but I don't have to do it often. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:13 AM To: Sweeney, Patrick; Martin, Jonathan; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Legal Freeze / Frozen Media I think I'm missing something here. Rather than simply freeze them why not set them to infinite retention? That way they won't expire and should stay in your catalog. Are they not asking for specific media? -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sweeney, Patrick Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:52 AM To: Martin, Jonathan; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Legal Freeze / Frozen Media Just a thought - what about creating a media pool that isn't used by any backup policies and moving the media to that pool until you have the opportunity to flip the write/tab and import it? From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan [jmart...@intersil.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:48 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Legal Freeze / Frozen Media All, We've recently been hit by a number of legal actions requiring media to be frozen and I'm trying to refine my procedure. There has always been a request that I save the catalog entries for the media that are being frozen. After trying this, I've found that we simply don't have enough space on the images lun to do this. What I've done instead is to output what images are on the media to the frozen media document so at least if data is required and the catalog is purged, we know which ones to scan / import first. Does anyone have a better idea than this? I've also considered making a special catalog backup (what a hassle to restore though) or archiving the images. Further, I'm pretty good about requesting media back and if they are frozen returning them as indefinite retention / frozen. However, I fear my co-workers may be less diligent with their restores. (One in particular returned an LTO3 media to me this week in a SDLT Media case.) Is there some way short of a sharpie to safely mark / label these media as frozen? I'm just looking for ideas. Thanks, -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] how to specifying what to backup
Here we don't concern ourselves with the number of policies. We try to make the names as consistent as possible to insure what we're backing up. We'll backup the operating system on every system and name policy for each as hostname-OS. The exclude lists for those policies would generally have all the directories that we would consider application supported by other teams as opposed to operating system supported by us. (e.g. on UNIX we might include /opt in the OS backup but exclude something like /opt/oracle). For environments we'll typically have a policy for the host and the environment (if we back it up at all - e.g. We might have server1-ENV-DB on the database server and server1-ENV-APP on the application tier server(s) where ENV is what we named the environment such as DEV, TEST, TRNG, PROD etc...). By using consistent naming like the above we can scroll through the list of policies quickly to determine the backup appropriate to what we need see. Also as hinted at above there are some environments (mostly Development) that we don't backup at all because it they are refreshed from PROD so in the event of failure it is just as fast to do a new refresh as it would be to restore what is likely an old copy of PROD anyway. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of James Osbourn Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:57 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] how to specifying what to backup I am in an environment with a large number of machines each requiring backups for different purposes. As each machine is different in some way it has resulted in nearly 300 policies. Each one backup up one or two directories. I wanted to find out how other people are getting round this and reducing the number of policies. I have seen some discussion about using include and exclude list to define what is backed up, but this can mean that you have to look at each client to find out what is backed up and the activity monitor when you look at it is not giving an accurate representation of backups. Any feedback greatly appreciated. James -- Systems Administrator Backups Storage Team Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute Wellcome Trust Genome Campus Hinxton, Cambridge. CB10 1SA -- The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] E-mail Notification on the LINUX (RedHat) Master Server
If you're running RedHat Linux then sendmail comes with the distribution media. If you didn't install from there you can or you can just do yum install sendmail to install it from RedHat yum repositories. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Servet Ince Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 5:38 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] E-mail Notification on the LINUX (RedHat) Master Server Hello, I'm trying to set the e-mail notification on the LINUX Master Server (6.5.1) I've found the following document on the Symantec Knowledge Base; http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/316365.htm http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/316365.htm It tells that NetBackup uses the mail transfer agent sendmail to send email notifications; And they suggest that just set the needed settings on the Master Server GUI and then Install it from the following Web site and configure your environment accordingly: http://www.sendmail.org/releases http://www.sendmail.org/releases I've dowload the suggested zip file, bur there is no readme,ınstallation guide or like those something. Does anyone know how can I set the e-mail notification? Do I need to install the sendmail ? Please advise.. Thanks, Regards. Servet Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] E-mail Notification on the LINUX (RedHat) Master Server
Why single me out for this? I wasn't asking - I was answering. As to what is valid for this list I don't think anyone made you the arbiter. From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:59 AM To: Jeff Lightner Cc: Servet Ince; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] E-mail Notification on the LINUX (RedHat) Master Server 2009/2/10 Jeff Lightner jlight...@water.com If you're running RedHat Linux then sendmail comes with the distribution media. If you didn't install from there you can or you can just do yum install sendmail to install it from RedHat yum repositories. Frankly, if you don't know what sendmail is, then sendmail is probably not for you. Postfix is a much better MTA for admins not familiar with Linux MTAs. Both are well documented and veritas-bu is not the right place to be discussing their configurations. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] [Q] How to check Veritas client 6.5 daemon running onLinux????
There is no daemon running on the RHEL client usually. Instead xinetd should be listening on the port and start the client process when a request is made. By default xinetd is NOT installed on RHEL. The NBU Client is brain dead so assumes you have inetd when it doesn't find xinetd running. It then creates an /etc/inetd.conf file which is useless since inetd isn't running. Verify you have xinetd installed (rpm -q xinetd) and that it has the following files in /etc/xinetd.d: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 311 Mar 14 2008 bpcd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 377 Mar 14 2008 bpjava-msvc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 344 Mar 14 2008 vnetd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 307 Mar 14 2008 vopied If not the simplest solution would be to remove the NBU software from the client then install xinetd then reinstall the client so it configures xinetd properly. The fact it works sometimes makes me wonder if the above is your problem though. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of bbb bb Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:17 AM To: aaa aaa Subject: [Veritas-bu] [Q] How to check Veritas client 6.5 daemon running onLinux We have Veritas Netbackup client 6.5 install on Redhat As 4.7. It has been run for a period of time. Sometime we got can not connect to client message and Veritas server can NOT perform backup. Our support engineer say it may be Netbackup client daemon is die on LINUX server. Does there has way to check Veritas client daemon running status on Linux server? Thanks. Windows Live(tm): E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_02200 9 Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Real time failure notification
Actually it depends on how long your timeout is set. If you've set things to timeout in 2 hours then 6 attempts would take 12 hours. You might want to know long before that. On the other hand, setting the timeout lower risks having the backup abort if it takes a long time normally (e.g. a database backup). The observation wasn't saying what you want won't work but rather that it is not truly real time which was what you'd put in your original post. You pays your nickel and you takes your choice. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Travis Kelley Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:37 AM To: Donaldson, Mark; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Real time failure notification Not really. We have netbackup configured to retry a backup if it fails so there may be multiple attempts under the same jobid. I don't want to get an alert if Netbackup is already running the backup again under another attempt. I only want to get an alert after Netbackup has tried the configured number of attempts and is failing the jobid. The way I see it is most of the time if something is really broken it won't take long to run through the 5 attempts, fail the job and alert, but if the box just got to busy and timed out or if the backup process was killed unintentionally I'd rather Netbackup handle retrying that on its own and not alert me. On 2/4/09, Donaldson, Mark mark.donald...@staples.com wrote: Your don't alert if retry was successful automatically excludes the idea of a real-time monitor. It's a bit like saying Don't alert if you're going to succeed in the future. We solved this by creating an after-the-fact monitor for our backups - it searches the bpdbjobs output daily and parses that down to return code, policy, client, fileset. If a fileset fails more than X days in a row (without a success in there somewhere) then it's reported on as an endangered fileset. It'd been decently effective. -M -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Travis Kelley Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:36 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Real time failure notification Hi all. I'm trying to find a solution to a monitoring problem we have. I would like to create a mechanism to alert when a backup fails but to only send one alert if multiple streams from a backup fail. For instance if c: and d: both fail for a particular box, I only want 1 alert. Also if a job fails twice but is successful on the third attempt I don't want an alert at all. I only want to be alerted once when netbackup gives up on retrying a backup and fails the job. I've looked at backup_exit_notify but haven't been able to find a good way to implement this here. Any ideas? -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Status = 12 (file open failed) in bpbackup
In fact in places I've worked that we used a scheduler (Maestro/Tivoli Workload Scheduler) we did have it abend on non-zero exit status. That is actually default behavior. At one site we actually wrote wrapper scripts to set exit status on the backup script so that if it was an status 1 from NBU the script would report an exit status 0 to prevent abends. Often you want this because the backup is just one part of a much larger schedule such as a BCV process where you have to do the synchronization from one server, stop the database and split the BCV on Production then import the BCV on yet another to do backup from it to tape. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of bob944 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:27 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Status = 12 (file open failed) in bpbackup So anything other than a status 0 abbends our job. What's Is that the behaviour you want? You didn't ask, but that's probably not what I'd want my scheduler process to do. I can't find anywhere in any log which file bpbackup is actually choking on. Sometimes the status 12 happens before any files are backed up, sometimes it's in the middle of the backup. The reference you need is the Veritas NetBackup Troubleshooting Guide. For the specific problem of what file, create a bpbkar log directory on the client(s) and set the VERBOSE level to greater than zero; that will cause bpbkar to record the file names in the log as it processes them. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] pdf files
I used pdfedit not so much to annotate but to modify a PDF report someone sent me once. This was on Linux. Not sure if they have a port to Windoze or not but it is Open Source so has no cost. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfedit -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Stump, Bob A Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:09 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] pdf files I have heard of only one solution so far. Are there any other products to look at? Foxit Reader is a free pdf reader. It's buy version allows annotations. $39 will get it for you. http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Stump, Bob A Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:58 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] pdf files Dear fellow teachers, mentors, students and users of NetBackup I downloaded all the NetBackup 6.5 pdf files. I haven't RTFM all of manuals since version 4.5. So much has changed, and I am getting older :-) I use the Adobe Reader 8 version 8.1.3. I am not satisfied with that solution. I want to be able to highlight items on a page, write notes in the margins, place a post-it note on a page with a note on it. I want to have the full functionality as if it were a hard copy document. I am old school. Is this functionality available in the Adobe Reader 8? Do I need to purchase a full blown Adobe installation? Is there another product that would work better for marking up a pdf file? Bob Stump VERITAS Ain't it the truth? _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable
I think it's a little different. The OP was asking how to do something presumably legal except if done in response to pending litigation. The news article suggests someone who was planning something quite malicious presumably of harm to Fannie Mae itself rather than any attempt to hide information from possible litigation. If he is guilty I hope he rots in jail and is never allowed to touch a system again. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:41 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable You guys remember this post? (below) http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090130/fannie_mae_virus.html?.v=5 What a mess! -Jonathan -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of rvadde Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:46 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable Greetings, I am pretty sure that a lot of you who are working for big enterprises are aware of the legal holds and holding even the scratch tapes for the legal purposes. I have a question related to this. There is a possibility that legal might come back and ask to hold all tapes including the scratch tapes because Netbackup has a mechanism to read those tapes and import them. Is there a way we can make Netbackup tapes as unimportable easily with out rewriting the whole tape? Thanks +-- |This was sent by rajesh_va...@fanniemae.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable
Perhaps. But if they fired the alleged malicious contractor in October he wasn't the one sending email this month and wouldn't have had access to physically move tapes to insure they were unrecoverable. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of tburrell Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:36 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable Jeff Lightner wrote: I think it's a little different. The OP was asking how to do something presumably legal except if done in response to pending litigation. The news article suggests someone who was planning something quite malicious presumably of harm to Fannie Mae itself rather than any attempt to hide information from possible litigation. If he is guilty I hope he rots in jail and is never allowed to touch a system again. Looking at the dates these appear to be unrelated- but the information would be useful to both users; malicious or not. Personally, I've never seen a coin with only one side. +-- |This was sent by tburrell...@yahoo.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Client for HP-UX 10.20?
We have some old 10.20 clients here. The client version is: NetBackup-HP-UX10.20 3.4patchJ0850740 installed back when they were new. However, NBU 6.x won't talk to clients that old so we have smaller 5.1 Master with a small 2 drive unit set up to backup these systems and a couple of other oddities. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:01 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU Client for HP-UX 10.20? Anyone here have any luck running any client on HP-UX 10.20? I've got client CDs going back to 4.5 and none of them seem to have a 10.20 client on them? The install.sh isn't working at all. Is there perhaps some way to manually install a newer version to get this to work? I've got some old machines that need to be backed up but without a working client I'm kind of dead in the water. Thanks, -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable
I'm assuming you want to be able to use the tapes as scratch tapes. If so then I'd suggest just loading in the drive and doing a simple tar to the tape - that will overwrite the header information. Of course if you KNOW that there is a possibility legal might NEED these tapes for litigation that is pending YOU could be held legally responsible for doing this by the courts or the plaintiffs you've frustrated. You need to insure whatever action you take is in line with EXISTING retention policy and is NOT being done in light of some legal action that is pending. Personally I wouldn't bother with this at all. If legal comes to you and says you have to save all tapes then you should be saving everything with infinite retention already and tell them how much it costs to keep every backup ever made. Most legal departments do really want you to save everything forever - only for as long as the law requires. Plaintiffs can not compel your organization to provide information that it no longer has but they can compel it to provide information that it does have. The legal argument for scratch tapes is that the information that tells you WHERE the old backup is no longer exists so they can't really compel you to re-import old scratch tapes on the off chance one of them contains information they might want. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of rvadde Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:46 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable Greetings, I am pretty sure that a lot of you who are working for big enterprises are aware of the legal holds and holding even the scratch tapes for the legal purposes. I have a question related to this. There is a possibility that legal might come back and ask to hold all tapes including the scratch tapes because Netbackup has a mechanism to read those tapes and import them. Is there a way we can make Netbackup tapes as unimportable easily with out rewriting the whole tape? Thanks +-- |This was sent by rajesh_va...@fanniemae.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable
I meant to say do NOT really rather than do really. By the way this is all my opinion. I'm not a lawyer so follow the advice at your own risk. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:03 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable I'm assuming you want to be able to use the tapes as scratch tapes. If so then I'd suggest just loading in the drive and doing a simple tar to the tape - that will overwrite the header information. Of course if you KNOW that there is a possibility legal might NEED these tapes for litigation that is pending YOU could be held legally responsible for doing this by the courts or the plaintiffs you've frustrated. You need to insure whatever action you take is in line with EXISTING retention policy and is NOT being done in light of some legal action that is pending. Personally I wouldn't bother with this at all. If legal comes to you and says you have to save all tapes then you should be saving everything with infinite retention already and tell them how much it costs to keep every backup ever made. Most legal departments do really want you to save everything forever - only for as long as the law requires. Plaintiffs can not compel your organization to provide information that it no longer has but they can compel it to provide information that it does have. The legal argument for scratch tapes is that the information that tells you WHERE the old backup is no longer exists so they can't really compel you to re-import old scratch tapes on the off chance one of them contains information they might want. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of rvadde Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:46 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Making Expired Netbackup Tapes Unreadable Greetings, I am pretty sure that a lot of you who are working for big enterprises are aware of the legal holds and holding even the scratch tapes for the legal purposes. I have a question related to this. There is a possibility that legal might come back and ask to hold all tapes including the scratch tapes because Netbackup has a mechanism to read those tapes and import them. Is there a way we can make Netbackup tapes as unimportable easily with out rewriting the whole tape? Thanks +-- |This was sent by rajesh_va...@fanniemae.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Sepaton
Sepaton presented themselves to us as an alternative to Data Domain (data deduplication on hard drives). When I read the info they sent me it seemed that I'd have to buy at least as much storage as I already had because first copy isn't compressed. We didn't have the floor space for that so didn't pursue it. Data Domain on the other hand compresses and dedupes so using much smaller units than it seemed Sepaton was suggesting allowed us to do the compression and deduplication. You might also look at EMC's offerings for data deduplication. They've been pushing them but we haven't looked into them since we'd already gone the DD route. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:23 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Sepaton Hello All, Happy New Year. Has anyone heard of, or worked with Sepaton? If so, could you give me some highlights? Regards, Patrick Whelan VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX. VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows. netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] backing up by application
If you use an external scheduler such as $Universe or Tivoli Workload Scheduler (a/k/a Maestro) then you can make all the backups dependent upon one another although I wouldn't. There is no need to rerun the middle tier backup just because the DB backup fails or more importantly no reason to rerun the DB backup because the middle tier fails. In the past I've worked at locations where we used these schedulers mainly to deal with shutting down middle tier before stopping DB then backing up both. Also often enough you're actually doing a BCV copy of the DB from one host, importing and mounting that copy on another and then backing up the BCV mounted. These scheduling tools are great for insuring all the different pieces have been done before the DB backup is run on the BCV copy. At my current job we don't have such a tool so we generally script things like that.For most of our systems we have at least 2 policies: 1 for the OS which excludes all application and database directories and 1 or more for each of the distinct environments (e.g. PROD, DEV, STAGING) that exist on the systems. Since Oracle is typically broken up into at least one middle tier (application) server and one database server we would usually have 1 policy for backing up its middle tier and one 1 for backing up its database. We also name our policies so that they are somewhat descriptive: hostname-OS hostname-APP-ENV hostname-DB-ENV Where hostname would be the name of the server and ENV would be the name of the specific environment. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:37 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] backing up by application On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:16 AM, kharris netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote: We are redesigning our backup infrastructure to backup files based on applictaion as opposed to server.One of the challenges is identifying wether netbackup can go accross the network and pull files from multiple systems provided an identifier is supplied and bucket them.We are well aware of the policy,tape pool,as well as multiplexing aspects of this.We are trying to see if this is possible. You can certainly bucket them with a keyword but that's only a small part of the solution. Scheduling your backups will be the real problem - an individual backup policy may only contain a file list that's common to all of the servers in the policy and you can have only one policy type (Standard, Windows, etc.) per policy. In other words, an application that spans an Oracle database on a Unix cluster with a Windows file cluster is going to be really difficult to back up on an application-consistent basis since you'll need a minimum of 4 NetBackup policies just to do those backups. You also have to decide what to do if one of the policies doesn't run or fails - does the entire application need to be rerun, or just the failed pieces? That's something we can't answer for you. It's all doable although you may need an external scheduler to help with this because of the limitations of what can go into a single NetBackup policy and the reruns that need to be done if part of the backup set fails. .../Ed -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error
If the clients are UNIX or Linux you can try doing login from the master to the client then doing a check to see from which IP or hostname the login appears on the client. If it shows IP instead of hostname it might be a sign the IP isn't recognized as the master's hostname. -Original Message- From: monalisa.ku...@wipro.com [mailto:monalisa.ku...@wipro.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:11 AM To: Jeff Lightner; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error Hi, Thanks fr the reply bt we have not made any change in the n/w but all the bkps except the catalog are failing fr all clients.The customer is saying tht they have not done any chnge to their n/w bt from last week the bkp is failing.I can tell you tht it is running with NBU version 5.0 and solaris as the master server Os. thanks regards, Monalisa Kundu | ES-Practice Engineer | Wipro No.30, Divyasree Mission Road, Ist Main, S.R.Nagar Bangalore-560026 Mobile No.:09731398129 -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:15 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error I saw a lot of these recently (and status 25 as well). It was because our master had two NICs in our backup LAN IP range and the routing we'd setup had gotten screwed up. I was able to solve it temporarily by adding the master server twice to /etc/hosts on the clients that were failing using both the IPs from the NICs on the master. That way regardless of which IP the traffic came from the client would see it as the master. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of monalisa Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 1:32 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error can anyone tell me what can be the reason of socket read and write error with error code 23 and 24 in NBU. +-- |This was sent by monalisa.ku...@wipro.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. www.wipro.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.
You might want to degauss even before sending out to such a company. At least one poster on this list noted how he had gotten used tapes that were supposedly wiped but on checking he found other people's data. As for us we degauss any bad tapes after images have expired in NBU. We don't destroy until then on the off chance we'll need to send to someone like Pivar to try to extract what can be extracted. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of James Osbourn Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:55 AM To: Justin Piszcz Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions. I the past when I have had to get rid of a bunch of old media. I did some net searching and found a company that specifically dealt with this as well as equipment recycling. They agreed a price for the amount of tapes that I had; collected them and then they were confidentially destroyed. I believe they were put in a furnace. We were then issued with a certificate of destruction as proof. This avoided any messing around with degaussing, erasing etc. James Justin Piszcz wrote: Had a few questions. 1. How do you handle it? 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you send them off-site, that is one option. 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the tape media? 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape shards, how do you dispose of the material? How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors etc) how do you properly dispose of them? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- Systems Administrator Backups Storage Team Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute Wellcome Trust Genome Campus Hinxton, Cambridge. CB10 1SA -- The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] nbu 6.5.1 lifecycle policy issue
We're running 6.5.1 and not having this issue. Also FYI - Upgrade from 6.5.1 to 6.5.3 would not be as painful as the one you just went through. From 5.1 to 6.0 there was a major change in the way things were done. We upgraded from 6.0 to 6.5 with no real issues. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of smehta Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:09 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] nbu 6.5.1 lifecycle policy issue David McMullin wrote: Regarding the error you are getting - you might want to open a trouble ticket with Symantec. For the error: Caught CORBA SystemException from SSmgrOperations: system exception, ID 'IDL:omg.org/CORBA/NO_PERMISSION:1.0' OMG minor code (0), described as '*unknown description*', completed = NO ![if !supportLists]1. ![endif]There are several binary updates available ( I have rev 6 of nbpem ) ![if !supportLists]2. ![endif]Check your daemons (on unix) nbstserv has a tendency to core dump/stop and cause these errors. ![if !supportLists]3. ![endif]Be aware you can overload the database! I had set up a script that would deactivate all my SLP: for i in `/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbstl -L | grep -i name | cut -c38-` do echo Now deactivating $i /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbstlutil inactive -lifecycle $i done and I found that you can overload the database with too many changes, and cause this type issue as well. Hope one of these helps you! BTW - symantec has recommended to me that I should go to 6.5.3! I put the nbpem rev 6 (ETRACK 1448343)on our ftp site for you. The significant changes in here for your environment are timer conflict corrections that can impact correct rescheduling of due dates and recognition of schedule changes. We still urge you to upgrade to 6.5.3 as soon as possible, for several other SLP issues are resolved in that release. Thanks for the update. I did open a call with Symantec and they came back with the same solution. Upgrade to 6.5.3. However, we just completed the upgrade to 6.5.1. from 5.1 and have all the clients at 6.5.1. Upgrade was painful and so don't want to change to 6.5.3.. Might end up sticking with old vault. +-- |This was sent by s.me...@ieee.org via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Media management DB out of sync.
By the way many of the commands have a -h host option. You don't have to go to the various hosts - you can just add the flag and issue the command from the master for each of your media servers. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dean Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:02 AM To: Jeff Cleverley; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media management DB out of sync. Rather than bpexpdate, I meant bpmedia -unfreeze, as you said. Duh. On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Dean dean.de...@gmail.com wrote: After thinking about it I decided to trying running the bpmedia -unfreeze on each of the SAN servers for each tape I was going to suggest that. When you run the bpmedialist command, it should tell you which media server owns that tape. And I have seen a situation where more than one media server thought it owned a tape, in which case bpmedialist will only return the first media server that claims to own that tape. So I had to run the bpexpdate command on the first media server, then bpmedialist again, then bpexpdate again on the second media server that claimed the tape. My apologies for the added emails. Why can't I figure this out before I hit the send button :-) Sometimes just verbalising the question is enough to make the answer come of it's own accord :) - Dean -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SuSE 10sp2
Interesting. The following thread says in part: On further investigation, this stupidity is specific to SuSE and Gentoo which have patched glibc to support mdns. Debian has an nss-mdns which is the sane way to implement this functionality. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/exim/users/73194 I didn't find mdns even mentioned in host.conf man page for RHEL5. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David McMullin Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:04 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] SuSE 10sp2 Do you have multiple NIC on the systems? We had an issue where the default outgoing path was not what NetBackup expected and had issues. We modified the /etc/host.conf to include these lines: multi on mdns off That did the trick... David McMullin -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Searching Forum Archives
A real nerd would hack Linux to replace the OS on his Blackberry then write a Perl script there to parse his wget downloads of the posts from the site. :p From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Nardello, John Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 2:46 PM To: Randy Samora; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Searching Forum Archives http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/ or http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/search.html - John Nardello From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Randy Samora Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:34 AM To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Searching Forum Archives Happy Holidays Everyone, Is there an easy way to search through the subject lines of the forum archives? I'm off all week and one of the neighbors insulted me by saying I wasn't a nerd. I'm going to research NetBackup during my vacation and prove them wrong. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel All jobs in Netbackup Java Console.
Not that I've ever found. This is one of my biggest pet peeves with design of NBU: 1) They put it right next to the Cancel Job button. 2) They use EXACTLY the same text when asking you to confirm cancel all as they do when canceling a single job. 3) The highlight goes away so you are not sure you picked the correct option unless you reselect it and don't let the mouse move a hair's breadth. What I always tell people is do NOT click Ok on the verification unless the option you want was still highlighted right before it came up. Most people do the cancel all at least once before they learn to pay attention. IMHO if you have someone that does the cancel all on a regular basis they should be fired for being too stupid to live. Of course management never does things that make sense. I worked at a place where we had a full NIS implementation with master and slave servers. One putz routinely pushed maps from the slave instead of the master causing Production to stop in its tracks. Instead of firing this bozo management decided we shouldn't use NIS. Let's hope your management doesn't make a similarly enlightened decision regarding NBU. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Kurian K Oommen Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:38 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel All jobs in Netbackup Java Console. Is it possible to disable the option Cancel All jobs in Netbackup Java Console (Activity Monitor) . ? How ? Regards K.O Kurian ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel Alljobs in Netbackup Java Console.
Because your method requires me to pull up each individual job and cancel each individually. Sometimes I'm highlighting a group of related jobs and canceling those. On a related note: If you're doing a series of related jobs (e.g. multiple streams and/or multiple copies) all started by one policy at the same time there's usually a master job that can be canceled or suspended that will pass on the cancel or suspend to all the rest of the related ones. We didn't realize it worked that way for a quite a while so got to see the most interesting messages on resuming or restarting. D'oh! -Original Message- From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com [mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:19 PM To: Jeff Lightner; ko.kur...@in.ibm.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel Alljobs in Netbackup Java Console. Instead of going to actions and cancel, why don't you all just right click the one job you want to cancel and then choose cancel ( there is not cancel all in a right click). ( I had to look up what you are talking about because I did not know there was a cancel all, I just highlight the jobs I want to cancel and right click) -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:15 PM To: Kurian K Oommen; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel Alljobs in Netbackup Java Console. Not that I've ever found. This is one of my biggest pet peeves with design of NBU: 1) They put it right next to the Cancel Job button. 2) They use EXACTLY the same text when asking you to confirm cancel all as they do when canceling a single job. 3) The highlight goes away so you are not sure you picked the correct option unless you reselect it and don't let the mouse move a hair's breadth. What I always tell people is do NOT click Ok on the verification unless the option you want was still highlighted right before it came up. Most people do the cancel all at least once before they learn to pay attention. IMHO if you have someone that does the cancel all on a regular basis they should be fired for being too stupid to live. Of course management never does things that make sense. I worked at a place where we had a full NIS implementation with master and slave servers. One putz routinely pushed maps from the slave instead of the master causing Production to stop in its tracks. Instead of firing this bozo management decided we shouldn't use NIS. Let's hope your management doesn't make a similarly enlightened decision regarding NBU. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Kurian K Oommen Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:38 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel All jobs in Netbackup Java Console. Is it possible to disable the option Cancel All jobs in Netbackup Java Console (Activity Monitor) . ? How ? Regards K.O Kurian ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NCVU download for NBU 6.5.1?
I'm seeing status 23, 24 25 (socket errors) on various backups for the past couple of weeks but don't know why. Network seems to be OK. On looking at troubleshooting it suggests running Netbackup Configuration Validation Utility (NCVU). On going looking for this I don't have it on my master. The download I did find seems to be for 4.5 and 5.1. Is it still valid for 6.5.1? If not is there an alternate utility to use? Of course if anyone has an idea why I'm seeing the socket errors on some backups (different clients and different client types) but not on all backups I'd appreciate hearing that. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NCVU download for NBU 6.5.1?
Well I think I figured out the socket errors. We have a backup LAN defined and on the master we have two NICs on that LAN. For some reason it appears a lot of the traffic that formerly went out the first NIC (which is what we have in local hosts files on the clients defined for the master's name) are going out the second NIC so it isn't being recognized as the correct name. I was able to make the backups work by changing IP in local hosts on client to that of second NIC from master. I was also able to make the backups work by reverting local hosts to the IP of the first NIC from master and downing the second NIC so it couldn't use that. Does anyone know what effect it would have if I put both NICs in local hosts on clients so that either IP looked up would result in the same master host name? Alternatively does anyone know a way I can insure the master uses the first NIC when talking to specific clients? Our intent is to setup auto port aggregation on the master eventually to try to increase throughput to the Data Domain. (The master is HP-UX, APA is network bonding somewhat like bonding in Linux.) We're not quite there yet. Also - I found an nbproxy process with nothing but CLOSE_WAITS to the various hosts that had had the socket errors. I had to kill -9 that to make it go away. Does anyone know where I can find info on this nbproxy. It was a child of other nbproxy processes and seeing it only had CLOSE_WAITS on it made me think it safe to kill. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 2:18 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NCVU download for NBU 6.5.1? I'm seeing status 23, 24 25 (socket errors) on various backups for the past couple of weeks but don't know why. Network seems to be OK. On looking at troubleshooting it suggests running Netbackup Configuration Validation Utility (NCVU). On going looking for this I don't have it on my master. The download I did find seems to be for 4.5 and 5.1. Is it still valid for 6.5.1? If not is there an alternate utility to use? Of course if anyone has an idea why I'm seeing the socket errors on some backups (different clients and different client types) but not on all backups I'd appreciate hearing that. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Fw: Question about posting to site
God, PRESERVE us from bad puns... -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sweeney, Patrick Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:01 AM To: 'debbie.l...@jmsmucker.com'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Fw: Question about posting to site Sounds like you are in a jam. (Sorry - couldn't resist.) Patrick Sweeney (978) 787-4553 patrick.swee...@axcelis.com I.T. Systems/Networks For issues requiring immediate attention please contact the Solution Center IT Solution Center (978) 787- beverly.helpd...@axcelis.com Axcelis Technologies Have you searched here and here? -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of debbie.l...@jmsmucker.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:16 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Fw: Question about posting to site This is a follow-up message from the email I sent, that is listed below. Can you please let me know if this is ok and I will send you the email with the link for the survey. Thank you. P.S. I am running out of time to get this completed. Thanks again. Debbie Lang Sr. System Administrator The J. M. Smucker Company (330) 684-3990 - Forwarded by Debbie Lang/MIS/Corporate/JMS on 12/11/2008 02:14 PM - | | From: | | --- ---| |Debbie Lang/MIS/Corporate/JMS | --- ---| | | To:| | --- ---| |mailman-ow...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu | --- ---| | | Date: | | --- ---| |12/01/2008 08:48 AM | --- ---| | | Subject: | | --- ---| |Question about posting to site | --- ---| I would like to ask permission it I can post a survey question. This survey is a requirement for completing my project that is necessary for receiving my bachelor's degree in Business Management from Malone University. The survey will be accessed via a weblink and will be kept completely confidential. Please let me know if I can send you my email to post to your website. Thanks, Debbie Lang (also Student at Malone University) Sr. System Administrator The J. M. Smucker Company (330) 684-3990 - Notice: The information contained in this electronic mail transmission is intended by The J.M. Smucker Company (or one of its subsidiaries) for the sole use of the named individual or entity to which it is directed and may contain information that is privileged or otherwise confidential. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please notify the sender of the error by reply email so that our address record can be corrected. Thank you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA
We saw lots of issues with RMAN backups until we upgrade the clients to match the master when we went to 6.x. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:15 AM To: Clooney, David Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA You are on the right track. Try upgrading the clients, there have been a number of upgrades to the java software. -- Carl Stehman Distributed Services Pepcoholdings, Inc. 701 Ninth St NW Washington DC 20068 202-331-6619 Clooney, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/08/2008 08:56 AM To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA Hi all Just a quick one for confirmation, I upgraded an environment weekend just gone from 5.1MP6 to 6.5.1. Our DBA's are informing me that they are having issues launching jbpSA from the oracle clients. Clients are still at 5.1 MP6 so I guess this is to be expected due to version incompatibility? Cheers Dave Notice to recipient: The information in this internet e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee please notify the sender immediately by telephone. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to external clients any opinions or advice contained in this internet e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing terms of business or client engagement letter issued by the pertinent Bank of America group entity. If this email originates from the U.K. please note that Bank of America, N.A., London Branch and Banc of America Securities Limited are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. For all U.K. corporate disclosures, please refer to www.bankofamerica.com/ukcompanies ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA
I don't recall the details as it has been some time ago. We didn't really spend a lot of time troubleshooting. Once we saw RMAN issues happening right after the NBU master (and all the Media Servers) had been upgraded we decided it made sense to upgrade the clients that were running RMAN backups to same NBU version since the Oracle backup type is a special one. Once we did the upgrade to match client to master the RMAN backups ran find so we never had to go any further. From: Clooney, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:36 AM To: Jeff Lightner; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA Cheers Jeff, any specifics as all looks good so far? Would hate to have overlooked something. Regards David Clooney Enterprise Storage Services Internal X66059 External +44 20 8760 6059 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 16:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Clooney, David Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA We saw lots of issues with RMAN backups until we upgrade the clients to match the master when we went to 6.x. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:15 AM To: Clooney, David Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA You are on the right track. Try upgrading the clients, there have been a number of upgrades to the java software. -- Carl Stehman Distributed Services Pepcoholdings, Inc. 701 Ninth St NW Washington DC 20068 202-331-6619 Clooney, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/08/2008 08:56 AM To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] client - jbpSA Hi all Just a quick one for confirmation, I upgraded an environment weekend just gone from 5.1MP6 to 6.5.1. Our DBA's are informing me that they are having issues launching jbpSA from the oracle clients. Clients are still at 5.1 MP6 so I guess this is to be expected due to version incompatibility? Cheers Dave Notice to recipient: The information in this internet e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee please notify the sender immediately by telephone. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to external clients any opinions or advice contained in this internet e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing terms of business or client engagement letter issued by the pertinent Bank of America group entity. If this email originates from the U.K. please note that Bank of America, N.A., London Branch and Banc of America Securities Limited are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. For all U.K. corporate disclosures, please refer to www.bankofamerica.com/ukcompanies ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you
Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows media server OFFLINE - RESOLVED
OK despite the fact that communication between the media server and the master (and vice versa) worked with ping, telnet to bpcd port etc... all indications from both sides indicated complaints about EMM. However, tpconfig -d and vmdareq -a suggested by troubleshooting guide were both run on master with no issue and all commands worked to our other media servers which were all HP-UX. In troubleshooting we saw the Java GUI hang when trying to get into media server view even if we chose a different media server from list. The vendor, Datalink, suggested this indicated an issue on the master and suggested a reboot as none of our testing had shown any clear indication as to the issue. The reboot of the master did in fact resolve the problem even though it isn't clear why it did. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:03 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows media server OFFLINE When running vmoprcmd on my UNIX master it shows my windows media server OFFLINE. Both are running NBU 6.5.1 The media server's name is atmbks01. I attempted to run vmoprcmd -activate_host -h atmbks01 which resulted in: EMM database error (196) I also ran vmoprcmd -hoststatus -h atmbks01 which resulted in: Unable to get EMM server name failed to initialize a connection to the Enterprise Media Manager (189) The troubleshooting guide doesn't give a lot but I've checked what it says. I also ran a vxlogview on the nbemm from the time I started an activate_host to the point it errored out as follows: Ran vxlogview -o nbemm -b 12/04/2008 12:08:43 PM -e 12/04/2008 12:10:54 PM to see log entries created by nbemm. While this does show me some information about not being able to reach a previously retired media server (which was UNIX rather than Windows) it doesn't mention anything about the one I was attempting to reach. So far as I can determine all relevant services are running on the Windows Media server. I had rebooted it to see if that would help but it didn't. Does anyone have any ideas? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5.1Mp4 with Mcafee 8.5 or 8.0 - windows2k3 freeze the windows server
Of course the fact that Symantec makes their own anti-virus product has nothing to do with the fact that NBU has issues with someone else's. :-) We're using Symantec Anti-virus here and having no issues by the way. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5.1Mp4 with Mcafee 8.5 or 8.0 - windows2k3 freeze the windows server I'm running several Master / Media with NBU 5.1 - 6.5.3 and McAfee 8.0 without issue. I haven't gotten around to upgrading to 8.5 yet, but when we first installed we went into EPO an disabled the on access scan for the Netbackup Application, DSU and DSSU volumes. Try turning off the on-access scan and see if that resolves your issue. Its caused us plenty of grief here on a variety of servers. -Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:01 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 5.1Mp4 with Mcafee 8.5 or 8.0 - windows 2k3 freeze the windows server Hi Folks, We have a strange problem in our environment, with the Windows 2k3 server, with the Mcafee recenlty upgraded from 4.5 to 8.5 during the backup hours when the no. of backup jobs is high the server is very sluggish in performance the most of the backup job fails with required resourses are unavailable, so many time the jobs also fails with the storage unit unavailable. If we stop/disable the Mcafee Antivirus reboot the server, and then re-run the backup , every thing works like charm as usual. We have opened a ticket with the Mcafee also to veritas, there is no proper response point each other. Do any one face such issue on the windows media server? is there any fix for this.? Master server : solaris - Metbackup 5.1MP4 Media server - solaris win 2k3 5.1Mp4 Regards, -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- image001.jpg___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] List of processes
Could someone send me a list of the processes that should actually be running on a Windows 6.5.1 media server? I had lists for 5.1 and 6.0 but not for 6.5. e.g. for 6.0 I had: Netbackup Compatibility Service Netbackup Device Manager Netbackup Client Service Netbackup Notification Service Netbackup Serivce Layer Netbackup Service Monitor Metbackup Volume Manager NOTE: Job Manager and Policy Execution Manager should NOT be running. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Windows media server OFFLINE
When running vmoprcmd on my UNIX master it shows my windows media server OFFLINE. Both are running NBU 6.5.1 The media server's name is atmbks01. I attempted to run vmoprcmd -activate_host -h atmbks01 which resulted in: EMM database error (196) I also ran vmoprcmd -hoststatus -h atmbks01 which resulted in: Unable to get EMM server name failed to initialize a connection to the Enterprise Media Manager (189) The troubleshooting guide doesn't give a lot but I've checked what it says. I also ran a vxlogview on the nbemm from the time I started an activate_host to the point it errored out as follows: Ran vxlogview -o nbemm -b 12/04/2008 12:08:43 PM -e 12/04/2008 12:10:54 PM to see log entries created by nbemm. While this does show me some information about not being able to reach a previously retired media server (which was UNIX rather than Windows) it doesn't mention anything about the one I was attempting to reach. So far as I can determine all relevant services are running on the Windows Media server. I had rebooted it to see if that would help but it didn't. Does anyone have any ideas? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] drives on HP-UX
Did you run insf -e after you ran the ioscan? On HP the ioscan will detect the new hardware but doesn't create the device files (/dev/rmt/*). You have to run insf -e to install do that. After you've done that running ioscan again will show the hardware paths to the drives associated with the devices to the device file paths to the drives. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abhishek Dhingra1 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:15 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] drives on HP-UX Hi All, Need help on configuring the tape drives on HP-UX media server. ioscan -C tape on HP-UX is showing me the new drives zonned with the server. But the tpautoconf -t is not showing any drive. I am new to HP-UX. Please help in getting the drives configured. Rgds A D IBM Global Services, Delhi, Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : +91-9818675370 -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800)
We saw this morning on a backup of MS-Exchange to Data Domain. I see a prior question about this to a Falcon store with no answer. The Data Domain volume isn't down but is running over 90%. Would we see this message if the intended backup wouldn't fit in the remaining space of the DD? Or is this somehow a complaint about the volume on the Exchange server itself? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to find out who cancelled a Backup in NBU
SUN = Solaris = UNIX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Fogarty Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:49 AM To: Hudson, Steve Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to find out who cancelled a Backup in NBU Windows? UNIX? Steve On 11/14/08, Hudson, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks I have searched many many logs on my SUN box but I can't seem to find out who cancelled a job this morning at 443 AM. Do you Gurus know of a way to do this??? Thanks. Steve Hudson Enterprise Storage Iron Mountain 745 Atlantic Ave Boston, MA 02111 Phone: (617) 535-2849 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the new www.ironmountain.com Tour Iron Mountain The information contained in this email message and its attachments is intended only for the private and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above, unless the sender expressly agrees otherwise. Transmission of email over the Internet is not a secure communications medium. If you are requesting or have requested the transmittal of personal data, as defined in applicable privacy laws by means of email or in an attachment to email you must select a more secure alternate means of transmittal that supports your obligations to protect such personal data. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient and/or you have received this email in error, you must take no action based on the information in this email and you are hereby notified that any dissemination, misuse, copying, or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by email and delete the original message. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800)
You get the error Judy posted or the one I posted? By master you mean the NBU master? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smithers, Mike Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:05 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800) I get this error every now and then with our exchange environment. We get it when we fail over the exchange cluster to another node. I set the disk storage units on the exchange server as an app cluster and the disks as a resource in windows. The disks fails over fine and the app cluster points to the right media server but it still fails on 800. Very annoying only way I can get it working is by recycling the master server. Recycling the netbackup service on the exchange server does not good. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:54 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800) Wow I have been working on 800's and had a bunch last night. Don't know if this the same but let me tell you what I know. I had a bunch of jobs work if the master/media server did them Anything done by my other media server or my san media server failed with 800 They are trying to tell me it is because I have the san disk drives on my master server on the same FC card as my san tape drives. I could not get that fixed the same day, but I bounced all the media servers, then bounced the services on the master again, and restarted an 800 failure and it worked for 2 days. Then I had 800's again last night. I am putting in a third FC card today and setting the disk drives on 2 of the fc cards and the tape drives will be on the third, then I can see if I have any more issues. Master/media AIX 5.3.6 Media AIX 5.3.6 San Media windows 2003 Sane Media windows 2003 Netbackup 6.5.2a What pointed us to this is the following errors found in the syslog syslog.debug:Jun 18 09:29:13 kwibsp03 daemon:info tldcd[520196]: tldcd.c.2699, n ewfd = INVALID_SOCKET, newfd=-1, timersig=1, error=4, EINTR=4, selectret=-1 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:36 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800,EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800) We saw this morning on a backup of MS-Exchange to Data Domain. I see a prior question about this to a Falcon store with no answer. The Data Domain volume isn't down but is running over 90%. Would we see this message if the intended backup wouldn't fit in the remaining space of the DD? Or is this somehow a complaint about the volume on the Exchange server itself? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to find out who cancelled a Backup in NBU
D'oh! I should know better than that - I just had a class at end of last month that had SUN x86 boxes running Linux so I guess it is possible to have Windows on Sun as well. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:06 AM To: Steve Fogarty; Hudson, Steve Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to find out who cancelled a Backup in NBU SUN = Solaris = UNIX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Fogarty Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:49 AM To: Hudson, Steve Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to find out who cancelled a Backup in NBU Windows? UNIX? Steve On 11/14/08, Hudson, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks I have searched many many logs on my SUN box but I can't seem to find out who cancelled a job this morning at 443 AM. Do you Gurus know of a way to do this??? Thanks. Steve Hudson Enterprise Storage Iron Mountain 745 Atlantic Ave Boston, MA 02111 Phone: (617) 535-2849 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the new www.ironmountain.com Tour Iron Mountain The information contained in this email message and its attachments is intended only for the private and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above, unless the sender expressly agrees otherwise. Transmission of email over the Internet is not a secure communications medium. If you are requesting or have requested the transmittal of personal data, as defined in applicable privacy laws by means of email or in an attachment to email you must select a more secure alternate means of transmittal that supports your obligations to protect such personal data. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient and/or you have received this email in error, you must take no action based on the information in this email and you are hereby notified that any dissemination, misuse, copying, or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by email and delete the original message. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800, EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800)
Not quite the same. 800 is fairly generic so you have to look at the specific reason code (Disk volume is down in my case) to troubleshoot. Unfortunately I can't find much that talks about this and what little that does isn't really telling me whether it is complaining about a source disk volume (i.e. The Exchange servers' Information Store) or the target disk (i.e. the Data Domain CIFS mount on the media server). Troubleshooting suggests running disk logs report. Running it for the media server at the time of the failure of one of the jobs produces no entity but running default produces 3 events like the following this morning BEFORE that time. Unfortunately I'm not real sure what this means: Fri Nov 14 04:46:03 EST 2008 atmbks01 0 Warning Volume NT_atmbks01_atldd02:Internal_16 monitored by atmbks01 is down S{cl-2060017} atmbks01 = Windows Media Server atldd02 = Data Domain NT_atmbks01_atldd02= Defined storage unit for when using this Data Domain on this Media Server Not sure what the Internal_16 means. Anyone have a clue? Device monitor only shows me tape drives. FYI: This is all NBU 6.5.1 - Master is HP-UX but backup is run via the Windows media server noted above. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:54 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800,EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800) Wow I have been working on 800's and had a bunch last night. Don't know if this the same but let me tell you what I know. I had a bunch of jobs work if the master/media server did them Anything done by my other media server or my san media server failed with 800 They are trying to tell me it is because I have the san disk drives on my master server on the same FC card as my san tape drives. I could not get that fixed the same day, but I bounced all the media servers, then bounced the services on the master again, and restarted an 800 failure and it worked for 2 days. Then I had 800's again last night. I am putting in a third FC card today and setting the disk drives on 2 of the fc cards and the tape drives will be on the third, then I can see if I have any more issues. Master/media AIX 5.3.6 Media AIX 5.3.6 San Media windows 2003 Sane Media windows 2003 Netbackup 6.5.2a What pointed us to this is the following errors found in the syslog syslog.debug:Jun 18 09:29:13 kwibsp03 daemon:info tldcd[520196]: tldcd.c.2699, n ewfd = INVALID_SOCKET, newfd=-1, timersig=1, error=4, EINTR=4, selectret=-1 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:36 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error nbjm NBU status: 800,EMM status: Disk volume is down resource request failed (800) We saw this morning on a backup of MS-Exchange to Data Domain. I see a prior question about this to a Falcon store with no answer. The Data Domain volume isn't down but is running over 90%. Would we see this message if the intended backup wouldn't fit in the remaining space of the DD? Or is this somehow a complaint about the volume on the Exchange server itself? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] What are your thoughts on filesystem monitoring?
My opinion is that it is better to use exclude lists. That way you have to be explicitly told NOT to back something up rather than be told you SHOULD back it up. When the day comes to do a restore it won't matter that you had a policy that they needed to tell us about new filesystems - you'll get the blame for not having backed it up because its your job to do the backups. By doing the excludes and forcing them to tell you NOT to back it up you'll have an email to point at if someone later asks why it wasn't backed up. Of course you could get rather broad in the exclude. Our policy here is we don't back up test/dev Oracle files and databases unless specifically requested and JUSTIFIED. This is on the theory that one can always recover a test/dev environment by refreshing from the associated Production environment and that we have limited backup resources and windows. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donaldson, Mark Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 6:48 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] What are your thoughts on filesystem monitoring? The majority of our NFS mounts are not backed up on the server that's mounting them. We have cross mountpoints checked but follow nfs unchecked. We mount all NFS servers to a central machine and back it up there. We consider this more managable than trying to decide on what server a multiply-shared nfs mount will get backed up and where it should be excluded. For example, a common filesystem for us is used to distribute software across nearly a hundred servers. To backup it up 100 times would be insane. We really need to consider changing from a central NFS backup server to using the NDMP method of backups but haven't implemented yet. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MPish44 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:28 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] What are your thoughts on filesystem monitoring? Good thoughts here... thank you! One other question. What about NFS mounts? we have had to explicitly list those in the policy else we just backup a place holder filesystem folder with no data in it. Is it better to just have the backup selections for a Unix F/S backup as / and select Follow NFS and cross mount points or am I asking for trouble? +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi
We've been using two DDs for a year now. Its deduplication/compression claims are valid. We use one for UNIX backups and one for Linux backups. We've had some challenges because we'd intended to do fibre but found out the fibre options for DD are extra but got left out of our original order. Due to that we've pushed most of our traffic over GigE instead. We recently bought a much larger DD with an eye to moving our Production Oracle DB backup to it. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:36 AM To: Robin Small Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi We have been running Data Domain since last March, and it is working well. we are getting bytes/storage used of 19.6 We are not using VTL. -- Carl Stehman Distributed Services Pepcoholdings, Inc. 701 Ninth St NW Washington DC 20068 202-331-6619 Robin Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2008 08:15 PM To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi Thanks to the folks that commented on EMC's Avamar, it was helpful. I'm curious now about DataDomain Quantum DXi. We run XioTech SANs and they're bundling a DD960(something) head on to the XioTech SAN. We're also using ADIC (now Quantum) for our Tape hardware. So those two bubbled up to the top. I'm meeting with our Quantum sales engineer guys on Monday to talk about it, and I was watching a DD/XioTech webinar about their offering that looks cool. Both look appealing. I'm curious for the dedup users out there what your experience has been with either DD or Quantum. I've been poking through Curtis' blogs about the subject, so I get it that the Quantum can do either inline or post, and the DD is pure inline. My RPO isn't as critical (most of my users are happy with the prior night's data), so PostProcessing isn't a game-changer. Thanks, ~ Robin ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] which 64bit client to use
From a Linux standpoint IA64 = Itanium (very specialized and only runs 64 bit) and x86_64 = the 64 bit x86 compatible stuff (more generic) from Intel and AMD that can run 32 bit apps. IA64 != EM64T - you're using the x86 based chip when using EM64T. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:34 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] which 64bit client to use I cannot remember the name of the processors but the IA is for some add processors that I have never had like Athlon or Irex or somesuch. I learned from Support the most normal windows servers is the NONE IA win64 client. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of X_S Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:20 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] which 64bit client to use does anyone know which 64bit client to use (6.0 mp6) for an IBM 3850 m2 with em64t intel processors. has win2003 x64 sp2. i tried the IA64 install and it says that it's not for this hardware. i ran the setup for amd 64 install and it looks like it might install. is that right? +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi
Oops - meant to say we use one for UNIX/Linux backups and one for Windows backups. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robin Small Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi We've been using two DDs for a year now. Its deduplication/compression claims are valid. We use one for UNIX backups and one for Linux backups. We've had some challenges because we'd intended to do fibre but found out the fibre options for DD are extra but got left out of our original order. Due to that we've pushed most of our traffic over GigE instead. We recently bought a much larger DD with an eye to moving our Production Oracle DB backup to it. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:36 AM To: Robin Small Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi We have been running Data Domain since last March, and it is working well. we are getting bytes/storage used of 19.6 We are not using VTL. -- Carl Stehman Distributed Services Pepcoholdings, Inc. 701 Ninth St NW Washington DC 20068 202-331-6619 Robin Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2008 08:15 PM To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi Thanks to the folks that commented on EMC's Avamar, it was helpful. I'm curious now about DataDomain Quantum DXi. We run XioTech SANs and they're bundling a DD960(something) head on to the XioTech SAN. We're also using ADIC (now Quantum) for our Tape hardware. So those two bubbled up to the top. I'm meeting with our Quantum sales engineer guys on Monday to talk about it, and I was watching a DD/XioTech webinar about their offering that looks cool. Both look appealing. I'm curious for the dedup users out there what your experience has been with either DD or Quantum. I've been poking through Curtis' blogs about the subject, so I get it that the Quantum can do either inline or post, and the DD is pure inline. My RPO isn't as critical (most of my users are happy with the prior night's data), so PostProcessing isn't a game-changer. Thanks, ~ Robin ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi
Ouch! Funny - it made me lookup up DD's symbol - Their NASDAQ symbol is DDUP. Gotta love that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Glazerman Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:41 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi http://finance.google.com/finance?client=obq=NYSE:QTM I have $1… I’ll take 3 shares and my change please. Mark Glazerman Desk: 314-889-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of oersted Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:11 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain vs Quantum DXi if you can wait a little while , there will be some interesting solutions in this arena soon. Robin Small wrote: Thanks to the folks that commented on EMC's Avamar, it was helpful. I'm curious now about DataDomain Quantum DXi. We run XioTech SANs and they're bundling a DD960(something) head on to the XioTech SAN. We're also using ADIC (now Quantum) for our Tape hardware. So those two bubbled up to the top. I'm meeting with our Quantum sales engineer guys on Monday to talk about it, and I was watching a DD/XioTech webinar about their offering that looks cool. Both look appealing. I'm curious for the dedup users out there what your experience has been with either DD or Quantum. I've been poking through Curtis' blogs about the subject, so I get it that the Quantum can do either inline or post, and the DD is pure inline. My RPO isn't as critical (most of my users are happy with the prior night's data), so PostProcessing isn't a game-changer. Thanks, ~ Robin +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3
The Twelfth of Nover... :p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:57 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 FYI / I just got a note from Symantec that First Availability of 6.5.3 will be on Nov 12th. -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu