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Am I getting out, I don't seem to be receiving any messages Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] You reached Vancouver, Canada
Hi Jerry: You reached Vancouver, Canada. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J McK Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:58 PM To: Fly Swap Subject: [VFB] test Am I getting out, I don't seem to be receiving any messages Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for HotmailR. See http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGT X_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme how. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: good afternoon
Jerry, You never learn something so thoroughly as when you have to teach it correctly to those who know it inaccurately or not at all. Me As part of my consulting business, I teach process schools (seminars) to gas plant and gathering operators. Rarely are they trained properly by people who themselves accurately know the processes. Not having proper training is life-threatening for them. I've also taught flytying for 25 years, at clinics, sports shows, conclaves, and privately. Beginning fly tiers are less of a challenge than intermediate tiers, because they are a blank slate to write on. The way to deal with it is to set goals for them and yourself- many small ones that are easy to achieve as steps to greater acheivements. As a teacher, not only do you need to know the material at hand (fly-tying) but also learn a whole new art-form that's called 'teaching'. Although anyone can teach at low levels, it's hard work to overcome the challenges that a good teacher faces, because each student becomes a goal unto himself. So each beginning student has one general goal- to learn fresh from the start. The teacher, though, has many challenges, more than the number of his students (like facilities, etc.), all presenting challenges for the teacher to assist each of them in overcoming. You won't be teaching tying a pattern near as much as you will be teaching eye-to hand coordination training, materials and tools usage, overcoming vision problems, 'jumbo-fingers' syndrome, TUI syndrome, nagging significant other syndrome, financial shortcomings (a big one), lack of focus (not intentionally), short-cut syndrome, left-handedness, absenteeism, and a myriad of other challenges that come up. (my experiences, at least) If you love what you're doing, and have patience and perseverence, you'll enjoy it. Lose any of those, and it's a 'bummer, dude'. DonO - Original Message - From: J McK To: Fly Swap Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: [VFB] good afternoon VFB Hope all is well, it sure a quite day. Raining here and 60 degrees Instructed fly tying Monday have two new members that have just began tying flies, man I never knew how hard it was to teach, always been the student. This was our thrid week and we have tyed wooly boogers, scuds and bream buggs. Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 -- Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. See how. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.48/2048 - Release Date: 4/8/09 7:02 PM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: test
I read all three from you. Nice to know that that your ok. It is raining here in utah as well. John bennett From: J McK woodenleg...@hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:58 PM To: Fly Swap vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] test Am I getting out, I don't seem to be receiving any messages Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. See how.http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme This email has been proactively scanned for all known and unknown viruses. This message is now certified Virus-free. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: test
Allan, Another box of rope-dubbed flies is headed your way for spring 'field-testing'. Got the photo of your size 18 caddis 'poopa'. Very nice job. When I do them that small, I use less dubbing and make more segments. The 'wild hairs' don't seem to make a difference to the fish, tho. DonO - Original Message - From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:06 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: test Am I getting out, I don't seem to be receiving any messages Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 I think maybe those of us who aren't in the rain zone have been out mowing. At least I have been. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.48/2048 - Release Date: 4/8/09 7:02 PM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: good afternoon
Don Glad it went on list as you provided some good info for all of us. And yes you are sick as in good!!! Jim May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From: woodenleg...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: good afternoon Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:09:00 -0500 Don I love doing the the teaching as I love fly tying it self. Thanks for the tips!!! Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: good afternoon Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:03:10 -0600 Jerry, You never learn something so thoroughly as when you have to teach it correctly to those who know it inaccurately or not at all. Me As part of my consulting business, I teach process schools (seminars) to gas plant and gathering operators. Rarely are they trained properly by people who themselves accurately know the processes. Not having proper training is life-threatening for them. I've also taught flytying for 25 years, at clinics, sports shows, conclaves, and privately. Beginning fly tiers are less of a challenge than intermediate tiers, because they are a blank slate to write on. The way to deal with it is to set goals for them and yourself- many small ones that are easy to achieve as steps to greater acheivements. As a teacher, not only do you need to know the material at hand (fly-tying) but also learn a whole new art-form that's called 'teaching'. Although anyone can teach at low levels, it's hard work to overcome the challenges that a good teacher faces, because each student becomes a goal unto himself. So each beginning student has one general goal- to learn fresh from the start. The teacher, though, has many challenges, more than the number of his students (like facilities, etc.), all presenting challenges for the teacher to assist each of them in overcoming. You won't be teaching tying a pattern near as much as you will be teaching eye-to hand coordination training, materials and tools usage, overcoming vision problems, 'jumbo-fingers' syndrome, TUI syndrome, nagging significant other syndrome, financial shortcomings (a big one), lack of focus (not intentionally), short-cut syndrome, left-handedness, absenteeism, and a myriad of other challenges that come up. (my experiences, at least) If you love what you're doing, and have patience and perseverence, you'll enjoy it. Lose any of those, and it's a 'bummer, dude'. DonO - Original Message - From: J McK To: Fly Swap Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: [VFB] good afternoon VFB Hope all is well, it sure a quite day. Raining here and 60 degrees Instructed fly tying Monday have two new members that have just began tying flies, man I never knew how hard it was to teach, always been the student. This was our thrid week and we have tyed wooly boogers, scuds and bream buggs. Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. See how. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.48/2048 - Release Date: 4/8/09 7:02 PM /html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: good afternoon
Same here Jerry, Rain and it looks some bad stuff coming tonight.
I have thought a lot of classes in past years, mostly beginners. Had not done
it in quite a while till Sowbug. I did a morning with beginners and by noon was
totally wiped out.
Tony
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VFB
Hope all is well, it sure a quite day.
Raining here and 60 degrees
Instructed fly tying Monday have two new members that have just began tying
flies, man I never knew how hard it was to teach, always been the student. This
was our thrid week and we have tyed wooly boogers, scuds and bream buggs.
Jerry McKaughan,President
Caddis Fly Fishing Club
P O Box 85
Pottsville, AR 72858
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[VFB] FW: for the list, tkx.
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