[VFB] Fly Rod on Yahoo

2010-01-30 Thread Rene Zillmann
Hi Gang,
who is going as 'Fly Rod' on Yahoo? Answers to rene.zillm...@t-online.de pls
Rene

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Re: [VFB] DVD#2 outline- rough draft- Rope-dubbing

2010-01-30 Thread haerbob3
Sounds good to me Don the only concern I had with the first was the volume of 
the music between scenes 

BobH 

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To owners of DVD#1, A BIG Thank you ! 

Below is the rough-draft outline for DVD#2. 

Do you see or know anything I should add , that DVD#1 does not cover enough 
about, 
besides what's on this list? 

DVD#2 table of Contents: 

1. Short re-cap of the rope-dub basic. (for those without #1) 

2. Anchoring and tying off methods for different rope cores (includes tags) 

3. Advanced rope shaping methods- using a spinner 

4. Ribbing  shell-backs 

5. More ways to rope raw furs 

6. Working with multiple ropes and secondaries 

7. More on extended bodies and furling 

8. Using up all those old materials with the rope-dub 

9. Getting fancy with steelhead flies and other types of flies 

10. Saltwater variations 

Credits 

Additions  Revisions: 

1. Better music between scenes. 
2. Fishing sequence at beginning. 
3. Extend time to include whatever it takes to get it all in. 
4. Segment for Buggs 

DonO 



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Re: [VFB] DVD#2 outline- rough draft- Rope-dubbing

2010-01-30 Thread charles connell
Sounds good  to me Don.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:


 *To owners of DVD#1,  A BIG Thank you!*

 *Below is the rough-draft outline for DVD#2.*
 **
 *Do you see or know anything I should add*, that DVD#1 does not cover
 enough about,
 besides what's on this list?

 *DVD#2 table of Contents:*

 1.  Short re-cap of the rope-dub basic. (for those without #1)

 2.  Anchoring and tying off methods for different rope cores (includes
 tags)

 3.  Advanced rope shaping methods- using a spinner

 4.  Ribbing  shell-backs

 5.  More ways to rope raw furs

 6.  Working with multiple ropes and secondaries

 7.  More on extended bodies and furling

 8.  Using up all those old materials with the rope-dub

 9.  Getting fancy with steelhead flies and other types of flies

 10.  Saltwater variations

 Credits

 *Additions  Revisions:*

 1.  Better music between scenes.
 2.  Fishing sequence at beginning.
 3.  Extend time to include whatever it takes to get it all in.
 4.  Segment for Buggs

 DonO



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[VFB] DVD # 2

2010-01-30 Thread charles connell
Don sounds a good plan DVD # 2
   Charles Connell

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Re: [VFB] DVD#2 outline- rough draft- Rope-dubbing

2010-01-30 Thread Alan Di Somma
Don:
Perhaps some fishing techniques could be included?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks?

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  Subject: [VFB] DVD#2 outline- rough draft- Rope-dubbing



  To owners of DVD#1,  A BIG Thank you!

  Below is the rough-draft outline for DVD#2.

  Do you see or know anything I should add, that DVD#1 does not cover enough 
about, 
  besides what's on this list?

  DVD#2 table of Contents:

  1.  Short re-cap of the rope-dub basic. (for those without #1)

  2.  Anchoring and tying off methods for different rope cores (includes tags)

  3.  Advanced rope shaping methods- using a spinner

  4.  Ribbing  shell-backs

  5.  More ways to rope raw furs

  6.  Working with multiple ropes and secondaries

  7.  More on extended bodies and furling

  8.  Using up all those old materials with the rope-dub

  9.  Getting fancy with steelhead flies and other types of flies

  10.  Saltwater variations

  Credits

  Additions  Revisions: 

  1.  Better music between scenes.
  2.  Fishing sequence at beginning.
  3.  Extend time to include whatever it takes to get it all in.
  4.  Segment for Buggs

  DonO



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Re: [VFB] DVD#2 outline- rough draft- Rope-dubbing

2010-01-30 Thread Alan Di Somma
Mike:

I don't really think you want to see Veronica in a dress do you?


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks?

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  From: Michael Bliss 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] DVD#2 outline- rough draft- Rope-dubbing


  Leave Buggs out but Veronica's alright


  On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:


To owners of DVD#1,  A BIG Thank you!
  
Below is the rough-draft outline for DVD#2.

Do you see or know anything I should add, that DVD#1 does not cover enough 
about, 
besides what's on this list?

DVD#2 table of Contents:

1.  Short re-cap of the rope-dub basic. (for those without #1)

2.  Anchoring and tying off methods for different rope cores (includes tags)

3.  Advanced rope shaping methods- using a spinner

4.  Ribbing  shell-backs

5.  More ways to rope raw furs

6.  Working with multiple ropes and secondaries

7.  More on extended bodies and furling

8.  Using up all those old materials with the rope-dub

9.  Getting fancy with steelhead flies and other types of flies

10.  Saltwater variations

Credits

Additions  Revisions: 

1.  Better music between scenes.
2.  Fishing sequence at beginning.
3.  Extend time to include whatever it takes to get it all in.
4.  Segment for Buggs

DonO



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Re: [VFB] DVD#2 outline- rough draft- Rope-dubbing

2010-01-30 Thread Alan Di Somma
Don:

Do you see little twin boys in knickers or a little girl in a party dress 
riding a tricycle down a long hall with many doors do you??

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks?

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  How about a 'centerfold' pictoral of Veronica?  H?

  Dr. D
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Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] DVD#2 outline- rough draft- Rope-dubbing


Leave Buggs out but Veronica's alright


On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:


  To owners of DVD#1,  A BIG Thank you!

  Below is the rough-draft outline for DVD#2.

  Do you see or know anything I should add, that DVD#1 does not cover 
enough about, 
  besides what's on this list?

  DVD#2 table of Contents:

  1.  Short re-cap of the rope-dub basic. (for those without #1)

  2.  Anchoring and tying off methods for different rope cores (includes 
tags)

  3.  Advanced rope shaping methods- using a spinner

  4.  Ribbing  shell-backs

  5.  More ways to rope raw furs

  6.  Working with multiple ropes and secondaries

  7.  More on extended bodies and furling

  8.  Using up all those old materials with the rope-dub

  9.  Getting fancy with steelhead flies and other types of flies

  10.  Saltwater variations

  Credits

  Additions  Revisions: 

  1.  Better music between scenes.
  2.  Fishing sequence at beginning.
  3.  Extend time to include whatever it takes to get it all in.
  4.  Segment for Buggs

  DonO



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[VFB] Not a Dumb Question #1 (Shooting Heads)

2010-01-30 Thread Tom Davenport
OK, Jimmy has challenged us to admit that there is stuff that we don't know and 
ask about it, so here I go:  I have never fished with a shooting head, although 
I have read about them.  Do we have any shooting head experts out there who use 
them regularly?  How do you cast and load them? What are the main 
advantages/disadvantages?  Where do you get them, and are some brands better 
than others?  Are they primarily made to use as a sinking line, or can they be 
used dry as well?  Can you switch heads for different purposes?  How far should 
a good caster be able to cast one?  

Thanks in advance,

Tom

On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote:

 Thanks DonO:  We have indeed lost members.  I just checked and as of today, 
 we have 200 members, a far cry from our high water mark of 600 +.
 Right now we're averaging 775 posts per month, which comes in at 29 VFB posts 
 per day.  775 sounded like a lot, but the 29 ain't much.  With 200 members, 
 we should have lots more activity and we can if our members will remember 
 what the VFB was designed for - learning from each other and passing on tips 
 on fly fishing / tying.  Maybe some of us, not me and DonO, are too bashful 
 to pose a question or pose a comment. However, we all need to remember that 
 THERE'S NO DUMB QUESTION WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.  So, lets get 
 cracking and ask those questions and pass along our fly fishing and fly tying 
 tips.  I do the Daily Quote and that generates a few comments, but maybe I 
 should pull in a few instructional quotes too.  Don't worry about someone on 
 the list jumping you for a comment you've made.  If they do, it's usually 
 done in fun. An example would be me chastising DonO for being so long-winded. 
  Give him a word, just one little word, and he can write a 5 page epistle on 
 it. Banter is good, to a point and gives us a chance to poke fun at one 
 another. One thing for sure, as VFB Moderator, I ain't gonna jump on anybody, 
 at least not on List, so let's saddle up and get the list Moving again.
 
 JIMMY D
 
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[VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY

2010-01-30 Thread Jimmy D. Moore
 My wife said I have so many flyrods and reels that I cannot possibly 
use them all.
My reply was that I have rods and reels to fish, rods and reels to 
tinker with, rods
and reels to hang on the wall, and then my fine crafted rods and reels 
to fondle
and admire, while dreaming of trout fishing during the cold winter months.  
You can imagine what kind of look she gave me. ©


Jimmy D. Moore

If I used this one recently, chalk it up to CRS !



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RE: [VFB] Not a Dumb Question #1 (Shooting Heads)

2010-01-30 Thread J Balmer
Well, I'm no expert, so here's my 1 1/2 cents worth. Shooting lines
originally were a heavier shooting head, similar to a weight forward taper,
that was attached to a smaller diameter running line w/ loop connectors.
They frequently sink. Now there are composite shooting head lines that
don't have the hinge effect of the loop connectors, as well as
interchangeable tips. Because of the heavier weight forward  the thinner
diameter running line, they cast further w/ fewer false casts. Most outlets
that sell fly line w/ have shooting tips, as w/ any line, you mostly get
what you pay for. Not sure how far a good caster should be able to cast,
since that doesn't describe me, but I would imagine a bit further than w/ a
weight forward:)

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Of Tom Davenport
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:01 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Not a Dumb Question #1 (Shooting Heads)

OK, Jimmy has challenged us to admit that there is stuff that we don't know
and ask about it, so here I go:  I have never fished with a shooting head,
although I have read about them.  Do we have any shooting head experts out
there who use them regularly?  How do you cast and load them? What are the
main advantages/disadvantages?  Where do you get them, and are some brands
better than others?  Are they primarily made to use as a sinking line, or
can they be used dry as well?  Can you switch heads for different purposes?
How far should a good caster be able to cast one?  

Thanks in advance,

Tom

On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote:

 Thanks DonO:  We have indeed lost members.  I just checked and as of
today, we have 200 members, a far cry from our high water mark of 600 +.
 Right now we're averaging 775 posts per month, which comes in at 29 VFB
posts per day.  775 sounded like a lot, but the 29 ain't much.  With 200
members, we should have lots more activity and we can if our members will
remember what the VFB was designed for - learning from each other and
passing on tips on fly fishing / tying.  Maybe some of us, not me and DonO,
are too bashful to pose a question or pose a comment. However, we all need
to remember that THERE'S NO DUMB QUESTION WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
So, lets get cracking and ask those questions and pass along our fly fishing
and fly tying tips.  I do the Daily Quote and that generates a few comments,
but maybe I should pull in a few instructional quotes too.  Don't worry
about someone on the list jumping you for a comment you've made.  If they
do, it's usually done in fun. An example would be me chastising DonO for
being so long-winded.  Give him a word, just one little word, and he can
write a 5 page epistle on it. Banter is good, to a point and gives us a
chance to poke fun at one another. One thing for sure, as VFB Moderator, I
ain't gonna jump on anybody, at least not on List, so let's saddle up and
get the list Moving again.
 
 JIMMY D
 
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Club, Member, TOWA Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member, North
Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
 Texas Fish  Game Magazine, VFB  FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired,
http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html
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Re: [VFB] Not a Dumb Question #1 (Shooting Heads)

2010-01-30 Thread mel hocken

Tom
Shooting heads are used to cast long distance with minimal false casting. 
Here in the Pacific North West we use them for steelhead and salmon fishing 
although a lot of anglers are going to double handed rods these days. The 
big advantage is the distance you can cast. The big disadvantage is lack of 
line control on moving water. Over the years many fishermen have 
experimented with various lengths and densities of shooting heads; myself 
included. We even used chunks of lead core trolling line to make shooting 
heads. Using this stuff really taught you how to chuck and duck. Many of the 
commercially available steelhead lines of today are patterned after these 
experiments. Some of us became quite skilled at splicing fly lines. There 
used to be a special line splicing kit sold commercially in fly shops. I 
still have mine stored away some where. You can by shooting heads at most 
fly shops. They mostly come in 30 ft lengths. I used to customize my heads 
so they were 10, 15 and 20 foot lengths. I would splice a loop in one end 
and attach them to a weight forward floating line. The weight forward 
portion of the floater was also cut back about so it was around 15 to 20 
feet long. then I spliced a loop in it so I could do a loop to loop 
connection and quickly change heads to meet the varying water conditions. 
Cutting back the floater helped eliminate the problem of hinging in the fly 
line. Originally I used a commercially available floating running line but 
it was difficult to mend any line with this stuff so I started using the 
weight forward floaters. If you want to see how well shooting heads work for 
distance casting go watch someone like Steve Rajeff. He set a single handed 
rod world record of 243 feet last year.  Hope this answers some of your 
questions.

Regards
Mel


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Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:00 PM
Subject: [VFB] Not a Dumb Question #1 (Shooting Heads)


OK, Jimmy has challenged us to admit that there is stuff that we don't know 
and ask about it, so here I go:  I have never fished with a shooting head, 
although I have read about them.  Do we have any shooting head experts out 
there who use them regularly?  How do you cast and load them? What are the 
main advantages/disadvantages?  Where do you get them, and are some brands 
better than others?  Are they primarily made to use as a sinking line, or 
can they be used dry as well?  Can you switch heads for different purposes? 
How far should a good caster be able to cast one?


Thanks in advance,

Tom



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Re: [VFB] Not a Dumb Question #1 (Shooting Heads)

2010-01-30 Thread Don Ordes

This is a video showing spey-casting a shooting head line:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9YlEfVV1S8

Can link to other videos, also.

One of many articles 'how to':

http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/shootingheads/

Jerry Goldsmith uses shooting heads, but I don't know if he's lurking today.
I tried once, when with him, but the timing is something that needs to be 
practiced.


Main reason- distance.  Where to use- big water.  Drawbacks- lots of line 
out to manage.


DonO

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Subject: [VFB] Not a Dumb Question #1 (Shooting Heads)


OK, Jimmy has challenged us to admit that there is stuff that we don't know 
and ask about it, so here I go:  I have never fished with a shooting head, 
although I have read about them.  Do we have any shooting head experts out 
there who use them regularly?  How do you cast and load them? What are the 
main advantages/disadvantages?  Where do you get them, and are some brands 
better than others?  Are they primarily made to use as a sinking line, or 
can they be used dry as well?  Can you switch heads for different purposes? 
How far should a good caster be able to cast one?


Thanks in advance,

Tom

On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote:

Thanks DonO:  We have indeed lost members.  I just checked and as of 
today, we have 200 members, a far cry from our high water mark of 600 +.
Right now we're averaging 775 posts per month, which comes in at 29 VFB 
posts per day.  775 sounded like a lot, but the 29 ain't much.  With 200 
members, we should have lots more activity and we can if our members will 
remember what the VFB was designed for - learning from each other and 
passing on tips on fly fishing / tying.  Maybe some of us, not me and 
DonO, are too bashful to pose a question or pose a comment. However, we 
all need to remember that THERE'S NO DUMB QUESTION WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW 
THE ANSWER.  So, lets get cracking and ask those questions and pass along 
our fly fishing and fly tying tips.  I do the Daily Quote and that 
generates a few comments, but maybe I should pull in a few instructional 
quotes too.  Don't worry about someone on the list jumping you for a 
comment you've made.  If they do, it's usually done in fun. An example 
would be me chastising DonO for being so long-winded.  Give him a word, 
just one little word, and he can write a 5 page epistle on it. Banter is 
good, to a point and gives us a chance to poke fun at one another. One 
thing for sure, as VFB Moderator, I ain't gonna jump on anybody, at least 
not on List, so let's saddle up and get the list Moving again.


JIMMY D

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Re: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions

2010-01-30 Thread Chuck Alexander
Oh geez.. Now I know what I have to look forward too LOL, Chuck


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  They just haven't told you what their names are yet.  That's coming...

  Veronica
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I don't have other personalities. I just hear voices ROFL... Chuck

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  Chuck...you aren't there---yet.  
  When you start developing alter-egos to share the load, then life gets 
easier.  
  Until, that is, they start arguing with each other.
  But, hey, it's a trade-off.

  Buggs
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Tony: Thanks. I feel like I have come a long way. I had some great 
teachers like yourself who were there to help me when I didn't know the 
answers. I know one thing.Tying has changed my life. I have depression and 
panic attacks and I can sit down and tie flies when I have a flair up, and it 
calms me down, Chuck

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Chuck, 
There are no dumb questions when you don't know the answer.
You have coma a long way in tying.
Tony

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  Subject: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions
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  One thing I learned about asking a zillion questions when I 
first joined here. If you are a lurker . or not a lurker, and you ask a 
question. ANY question. no matter how simple it may seem. You can bet your last 
dollar that there is somebody else out there who wanted to ask that very same 
question, but were too shy, thought it was a dumb question etc.. I used to get 
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RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-30 Thread Neville Gosling
Dail:
 
It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a dark
centre section. 

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 

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pacres-  yes tied by McPhail.What is greenwells feather?   I can not
find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   Dail

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Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
 
Materials are listed at the begining. 
 


 
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Help   I saw a U Tube video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory.
The recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used on this fly?   I know
someone on this list has the answer.  Thanks,   Dail Graham


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[VFB] Greenwells Glory Variations

2010-01-30 Thread iain short

Pearsalls silk is specified because it changes colour when wet while modern 
synthetic threads do not.  Same applies to all the old silk thread/silk floss 
bodied flies - partridge  orange, snipe  purple etc ... you will catch more 
fish using silk



Greenwells Glory (Veniard)
Hook: 10-16 down eyed
Thread: Primrose Pearsalls Silk well waxed with cobbler's wax (Try solid block 
beeswax)

Tail: Light Furnace cock

Body: Tying silk
Rib: Fine gold wire

Hackle: Light Furnace cock

Wing: Darkest starling or hen blackbird

Greenwells Glory (W.H.Lewrie)

Hook: 10-16 down eyed

Body: Primrose Pearsalls Silk well waxed with cobbler's wax ribbed with fine 
gold wire


Hackle: Dark Furnace Hen


Wing: Hen blackbird

Greenwells Glory (Francis Francis)

Hook: 7-12 down eyed

Body: Dark olive silk well waxed with cobbler's wax (Try solid block beeswax)

Rib: Fine gold wire


Hackle: Small dark Coch-y-bonddhu


Wing: Woodcock

Greenwells Glory (Skews)

Hook: 14-16 down eyed


Tail: three fibers as hackle


Body: Primrose Pearsalls Silk waxed with clear wax  ribbed with fine gold wire


Hackle: Greenish yellow-olive cock


Wing: Pale to dark starling

Greenwells Glory (Tweedside pattern) (also Edmonds  Lee)

Hook:14 down eyed


Body: Primrose Pearsalls Silk well waxed with cobbler's wax ribbed with fine 
gold wire


Hackle: Coch-y-bonddhu


Wing: Hen blackbird tied in a bunch and split

Greenwells Nymph (Roberts)

Hook: 10-16 down eyed


Tail: Coch-y-bonddhu


Body: Primrose Pearsalls Silk well waxed with cobbler's wax ribbed with fine 
gold wire
Thorax: Grey or blue-grey dubbing


Wing case: Grouse hackle with the tips turned down as legs

Greenwells Spider


Hook: 12-16 down eyed



Body: Primrose Pearsalls Silk well waxed with cobbler's wax ribbed with fine 
gold wire

Hackle: Coch-y-bonddhu tied swept back to reach point of hook


  
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