Re: [VFB] Any VFB'ers communicating presently via email?

[Jack Harford]

As kind of a late comer to VFB, it is nice to get to know some of you a
little better. I was introduced to your group by my friend Al Fish and he
introduced me to several of you at Sowbug. This year I have not tied or
fished as much as during the COVID years when I posted lots of flies on
Facebook and Instagram. This year I missed Sowbug, so I am happy to hear
any reports from those who were able to make it. I think we need
something like Sowbug here in Indiana or at least the Midwest.

Good luck and tight lines,
Jack

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 5:02 PM Gary Webb  wrote:

> I see Rick Zieger fairly regularly posting on our Facebook group.
> But hardly anyone else.  I miss hearing from everyone. It would be nice to
> know how many of us are still falling into the creek or out of the boat.
> Gary Webb
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Re: [VFB] Facebook Group

[Jack Harford]

Also requested to join fb group 
Tight lines
Jack

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021, 9:06 AM Allan Fish  wrote:

> Thanks Ed,
>
> My request is in.
>
> Al
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> On Feb 8, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Ed Roden  wrote:
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> It already exists - https://www.facebook.com/groups/42271173976
>
> Ed Roden
> Email: flyfished at gmail dot com
> Twitter: @flyfished
> mittenstateangler.com
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> Henrietta Lange: The true test of a commander is when he is as frightened
> and confused as those who look up to him. In that moment, when you can't
> find it in yourself, you will find it in them. That's leadership.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 6:54 AM Rene Zillmann 
> wrote:
>
>> Gang,
>>
>> is anybody interested in setting up such a facebook group? I do not have
>> a facebook account yet, but that would be a good reason to get  an account
>> there.
>>
>> What do y'all think?
>>
>> Rene
>>
>>
>> On 1/1/21 5:07 PM, 'KP' via VFB Mail wrote:
>>
>> So if we want to keep our merry band together why not set up a Facebook
>> or WhatsApp page/group? Wouldnt have to wait 24 hours to get a reply as it
>> will be almost instant? Set it as a private group leave the contact options
>> on here so anyone who wants to stay in touch can pop over to the new
>> location. And that way we would not have a “me too” email that is forty
>> foot long cos no one removed the original emails from the reply. If you
>> choose whatsapp you can video message at no cost etc.
>>
>>
>> Happy New Year all
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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes news

[Jack Harford]

May Don Ordes have a peaceful and pleasant journey to beautiful streams of
love in the next world.

God Bless You Don,
Jack

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 2:09 AM Beer mit  wrote:

> Yes. Last week. Great shame.
>
> Regards,
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>
> Reuven
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> > On 24 Dec 2020, at 0:39, Byard Miller  wrote:
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Re: [VFB] Sowbug dates 2021

[Jack Harford]

Thanks Peggy . . . Sounds good to me . . .

Tight lines
Jack

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, 6:00 PM Peggy Brenner  wrote:

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> the dates for 2021 have not quite been announced but they had to move the
> show so they should be May 13-15.  Lets stay safe and see everyone there,
> maybe we should dine together in Tony's honor one evening, we can all bow
> our heads for a moment for bringing us all together.
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Re: [VFB] Fwd: Tony Spezio

[Jack Harford]

Looking forward to Sowbug!!

May Tony have a safe and peaceful journey to a beautiful life in the next
world 

Jack

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 9:55 AM Peggy Brenner  wrote:

> For those who are not on FB, Tony died in his sleep last night.  I visited
> them at the home in early March as I was in Mountain Home for a ladies fly
> tying event. He was determined to make 90 but didn't seem to have a plan
> other than getting home after that. Going home was not an option without
> live in care, but the home was very nice and everyone knew both of them as
> the employees lived local as well.
>
> Maybe next year for Sowbug we should all meet there for a  moment of
> silence in his honor and before we all get to 90.
>
> Peggy
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> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 10:22 AM 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
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>> Thanks for the info. Not what  I wanted to hear.
>>
>> Rick
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>> On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 06:16:10 PM CDT, Scott Bearden <
>> scott.bear...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> FYI, Keep Tony in your prayers. He has several major hurdles to overcome.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: *Mike Stout *
>> Date: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:23 PM
>> Subject: Tony Spezio
>>
>> For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had
>> to
>> have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
>> heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son in
>> law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There is
>> also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30
>> days.
>> They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
>> second hand for me. Just reporting what I have been told. I am currently
>> on
>> the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
>> have more information.
>>
>> Mike
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Re: [VFB] Source for Seal's fur dubbing in the USA?

[Jack Harford]

or here . . .
https://pacificflyfishers.com/products/arizona-simi-seal-dubbing

j


On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 7:21 PM Phxflytyer  wrote:

> Pete. Try ‘’ Arizona fly fishing.com’’
> You can go on to you tube and type in “‘John Rohmer’’ and you can see how
> he ties the Simi Seal Leach. He also sells ‘’Diamond Brady’’ and simi Seal
> magnum.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
> Real funny Scotty?
> Now beam down my clothes!
>
>
> On Jun 28, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Pete Gramp  wrote:
>
> 
> Hadn’t thought of that! I’ll see what I can find in an orange and cobalt
> blue color From online vendors - local shop shut down for good and I’m
> still grieving about it - (two different dubbings, but I’d be mixing and
> blending them). I don’t think j.stockard carries Arizona simiseal
> anymore... have to hunt around for a vendor, but shouldn’t be too
> difficult to find. Thanks for the suggestion!
> -Pete
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 3:55 PM Phxflytyer  wrote:
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>> 
>> Hey Pete, have you ever heard of Simi Seal material?here are some leaches
>> that I tie.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Mesa, Az.
>>
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>
>> Real funny Scotty?
>> Now beam down my clothes!
>>
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Pete Gramp  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi, VFB!
>> Is there a *legit* source for seal's fur dubbing in the USA?  Like, not
>> having to deal with CITES permits or risking run-ins with law enforcement?
>> For that matter, is it even legal to possess and use seal's fur dubbing in
>> the USA without a CITES permit or the likes?  If not... boy, I am glad the
>> little I have from Scotland has a CITES permit associated with it!!
>>
>> Just looking for new colors, as what I have are 2 colors, both dark (jet
>> black, dark olive nearly dark-brown), and nearly impossible to dye the
>> orange and cobalt blue I'm desiring... There's a featured pattern in the UK
>> Flyfishing & Flytying Journal that I'd like to try my hand at, that's why
>> I'm seeking these colors.  Technically I could use sheepswool dubbing as an
>> alternative, but I was never fond of that stuff, and I don't have that
>> besides.  And the sheen just isn't the same for sheepswool dubbing.  I
>> suppose I could also use pigswool but that is too kinky/curly in my
>> opinion, and besides, I only have about 0.1g left (flattened out, the size
>> of a 50p piece, or a little bigger than a US quarter) in off-colorations
>> for that option.
>>
>> Thanks for any help anyone can provide for seal's fur sourcing - legit
>> ones, in the USA,
>> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Source for Seal's fur dubbing in the USA?

[Jack Harford]

It can be found here:
http://www.worleybuggerflyco.com/Arizona%20Simi%20Seal%20Dubbing/Arizona%20Simi%20Seal%20Dubbing.htm

Tight lines,
Jack

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 7:21 PM Phxflytyer  wrote:

> Pete. Try ‘’ Arizona fly fishing.com’’
> You can go on to you tube and type in “‘John Rohmer’’ and you can see how
> he ties the Simi Seal Leach. He also sells ‘’Diamond Brady’’ and simi Seal
> magnum.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
> Real funny Scotty?
> Now beam down my clothes!
>
>
> On Jun 28, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Pete Gramp  wrote:
>
> 
> Hadn’t thought of that! I’ll see what I can find in an orange and cobalt
> blue color From online vendors - local shop shut down for good and I’m
> still grieving about it - (two different dubbings, but I’d be mixing and
> blending them). I don’t think j.stockard carries Arizona simiseal
> anymore... have to hunt around for a vendor, but shouldn’t be too
> difficult to find. Thanks for the suggestion!
> -Pete
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 3:55 PM Phxflytyer  wrote:
>
>> 
>> Hey Pete, have you ever heard of Simi Seal material?here are some leaches
>> that I tie.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Mesa, Az.
>>
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>
>> Real funny Scotty?
>> Now beam down my clothes!
>>
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Pete Gramp  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi, VFB!
>> Is there a *legit* source for seal's fur dubbing in the USA?  Like, not
>> having to deal with CITES permits or risking run-ins with law enforcement?
>> For that matter, is it even legal to possess and use seal's fur dubbing in
>> the USA without a CITES permit or the likes?  If not... boy, I am glad the
>> little I have from Scotland has a CITES permit associated with it!!
>>
>> Just looking for new colors, as what I have are 2 colors, both dark (jet
>> black, dark olive nearly dark-brown), and nearly impossible to dye the
>> orange and cobalt blue I'm desiring... There's a featured pattern in the UK
>> Flyfishing & Flytying Journal that I'd like to try my hand at, that's why
>> I'm seeking these colors.  Technically I could use sheepswool dubbing as an
>> alternative, but I was never fond of that stuff, and I don't have that
>> besides.  And the sheen just isn't the same for sheepswool dubbing.  I
>> suppose I could also use pigswool but that is too kinky/curly in my
>> opinion, and besides, I only have about 0.1g left (flattened out, the size
>> of a 50p piece, or a little bigger than a US quarter) in off-colorations
>> for that option.
>>
>> Thanks for any help anyone can provide for seal's fur sourcing - legit
>> ones, in the USA,
>> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] Who remembers?

[Jack Harford]

That sounds like an interesting project . . . must be fun to read . . . . :)

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> The folks who were in the swap wrote s story about he fly and they we
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> Rick
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> On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 2:01:09 PM CDT, Jack Harford <
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> What book is it???
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Re: [VFB] Who remembers?

[Jack Harford]

What book is it???

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Re: [VFB] Tony visit

[Jack Harford]

Thanks for the update Peggy!!!

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 10:16 AM Peggy Brenner  wrote:

> I went and visited Tony yesterday at the hospital in the end he was
> discharged to the rehab Dot is in. Things are not looking good but he has
> set a goal of making his big 90 birthday, and Sowbug,he has his pattern
> picked out.
>
> Today I'm going to the nursing home and see them both,, I'll email you all
> tonight.
>
> Peggy B
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 2:26 PM Chuck Alexander <
> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
>> Great patterns. And my wife and I were just talking  Saturday about
>> building a stockpile of various length furled leaders cause our stock is
>> low. Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
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>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2020 11:44 PM
>> *To:* vfb-mail 
>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Health and weather
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope I didn't mislead any of you.  These flys are new to me.
>>
>> Over the years I've tied many "Easiest Ever Ant Pattern" patterns.
>>
>>  One of my all time favorites:  The late Ed Sutryn's McMurray Ant:
>> https://www.flydreamers.com/en/fly-tying/mc-murray-ant-vl233  Years ago
>> I ordered some from Ed.  Still in my vest. I'll never use them.  But trout
>> love ants so even my poor copies produce.  And I've tied Harrison Steeve's
>> TransparAnt.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIKex5Z-Ws
>>
>> Also Kelly Gallup's Ant Acid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uuYX-cKqio
>>
>>
>> I've tied a variety of fur  and foam ants.
>>
>>
>>
>>   But my newest ant pattern I'm tying is Mr. Bill's Flying Ant.
>> http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/050806fotw.php
>>
>>
>>
>> The other new to me fly is Justin Bruce's:  Houdini Tenkara Fly:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIB18lIzwew=496s
>>
>> I bought a $10 rod from China to try fishing the Tenkara method.
>>
>> And I've tied a bunch of Kebari style flies. Which I'm hoping to try
>> soon.  On most of the small streams I fish Tenkara will work well.
>>
>> Chuck, furled leaders work really well with Tenkara rods.
>>
>> Well that's what I've been up to this winter.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 10:11 PM Chuck Alexander <
>> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Gary: Thanks. Will do on keeping you both in my prayers. Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>> Of *Gary Webb
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:26 AM
>> *To:* vfb-mail 
>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Health and weather
>>
>>
>>
>> Good to hear you're getting healthier Chuck.   I'm doing well, but
>>
>> Susan has had some setbacks.  I won't go into details.  Just keep us in
>> your prayers as I know you do.   Weather here is typical Wisconsin in
>> February.  Ten inches of snow last Sunday and minus 18 this morning.  The
>> sun was shining but I wasn't even tempted to try for some trout.  Barely
>> took my dog for a walk. When we get a day where temps get above freezing
>> I'll be out trying some new patterns I tied recently.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:40 PM Chuck Alexander <
>> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
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>> Folks: since the group is real slow, so I thought I’d send a health and
>> weather email out asking about everybody. How is everybody’s health and
>> weather??? I FINALLY got over the pneumonia and dehydration I was
>> hospitalized because of   for a few days back in November. I kept a hacking
>> cough for over three months before getting rid of if FINALLY . And I think
>> we have had rain for about 30 STRAIGHT.  And I hope to fix a few more
>> things on my boat and boat trailer so we can boat fish as much as possible
>> this yr but it’s always raining so I haven’t been able to work on it. Hope
>> everybody is at least doing “fair to middlin’ “as we say in the deep South
>> here, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] list activity

[Jack Harford]

Reuven . . . . I think they are talking about us youngsters under 70 . . .
. :D

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 10:38 PM Beer mit  wrote:

> Am I the younger generation?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Reuven
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> On 15 Nov 2019, at 2:59 am, Neville Gosling  wrote:
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> Yes Rick that is true but if you cannot find this list in a search it is
> not surprising that we get few if any newcomers.
>
> Nev
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Re: [VFB] list activity

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Probably the only way to get new members for this list is to personally
invite them. I've just been on a few years only because Al Fish invited me
and I know a few folks from Sowbug.

Tight lines
Jack

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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Swap 2019

[Jack Harford]

Thanks for the article Gary!!!

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:33 AM Gary Webb  wrote:

> *I was going to send my contributions in today.  I forgot that it is
> President's Day.   So they will go out tomorrow.*
>
> *I have tied two sets.  One set with a chenille collar.  One set with a
> rope-dubbed ICE dubbing collar.  Both  are labeled fluorescent shell pink.*
> *The colors match pretty closely.I'm hoping the ICE dubbing will be a
> little more durable than the chenille.  We will see.*
>
> *The attached  excerpt is from an article by John Bethke about his
> signature fly.*
> *I like how he uses inexpensive materials as much as possible.  I believe
> years ago he used to get his beads from and local sporting goods store.*
> *They weren't from the fly tying shelves.  They were brass beads used to
> make your own spinner baits. A lot less money. That store doesn't carry
> them today.*
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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update #5- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[Jack Harford]

Here's what claims to be the original Pink Squirrel pattern. The picture is
pretty much like what I saw in WI, a short chubby fly 

https://wiflyfisher.com/patterns/Pink-Squirrel-fly-pattern.asp

Tight lines,
Jack

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 6:57 PM ladyflytyer  I have materials and can make up a variation of the pink squirrel nymph.
>
> Peggy B
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S
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>  Original message 
> From: DonO 
> Date: 1/24/19 2:41 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Sign-up list update #5- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel
> Nymph
>
> Just a few more as we’ll have the 18 we need. If I missed you, please let
> me know.
>
> *Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/24 am)*
>
> 1.  Rick Zieger
> 2.  Allan Fish
> 3.  Neville Gosling
> 4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
> 5.  Don Ordes
> 6.  Renr Zillman
> 7.  Gary Webb
> 8.  J Balmer
> 9.  Ron Boutin
> 10.  Alan Di Somma
> 11.  Mel Hocken
> 12.  Jack Harford
> 13.  Mike Bliss
> 14.  Joyce Westphal
> 15.  Keith Passant
> 16.
> 17.
> 18.
>
>
> I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate
> for a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it
> and have probably fished it.
>
> If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this
> pattern!
> [image: Image result for crawfish took a pink squirrel fly]
>
> Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)
>
> 1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
> 2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
> 3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
> 4.  Broad range of quarry fish
> 5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose
>
> 6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
> 7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited
> for a collar per the photo archives)
> 8.  Gold or silver bead
> 9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern
>
> 10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
> 11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.)
> or Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something
> special. (Story?)
>
> Any extra flies will be donated to good charity.
>
> Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.
>
> All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of
> variations with a common theme.
>
> I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need
> to keep my energy up.
>
> Any VFB swappers left? Maybe we’ll have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.
>
> Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in.
>
> Cheers,
> DonO
>
>
>
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Re: [VFB] Spikey dubbing samples for PSQN- Jack

[Jack Harford]

Yes . . Something like this . . ..
https://www.driftlessangler.com/estore/8070-thick-bodied-sub-surface/104594-pink-squirrel



On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 5:05 PM DonO  Jack,
> These samples of rope-dubbed fly bodies are tied with a mixture of
> squirrel and
> spikey hare’s mask (ears) dubbing.
> On the real samples, the segmentation stands out a lot more because of
> lighting.
>
> Does the pattern call for dubbing this spikey?
>
> [image: P1010020]
>
> It also looks like the tail fibers of twisted pearl mylar flash are basic
> to the pattern. (not shown)
> Do you have an official pattern recipe to include with the swap info?
>
> Also, do you have the official background story of the crawfish caught on
> one? (my intro post)
>
> THANKS!
>
> DonO
>
> *From:* Jack Harford 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2019 2:29 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink
> Squirrel Nymph
>
> Don
>
> I think the spikey squirrel is just the ticket for the pink squirrel . . .
> .
>
> Tight lines,
> Jack
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 1:53 PM DonO  wrote:
>
>> Jack,
>> Would the proper recipe dubbing be a spikey squirrel?
>> So where’s Nick R. these days?
>> Talking about the squirrel reminds me of him.
>>
>> Hoping to hear from Deb also.
>>
>> DonO
>>
>> *From:* Jack Harford 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 20, 2019 3:27 PM
>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink
>> Squirrel Nymph
>>
>> Yep Pink Squirrel is a WI pattern. I think it came out of the Driftless
>> Angler Fly Shop in Viroqua WI.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 11:00 PM DonO >
>>> Jack,
>>> Thanks for the story- very interesting.
>>>
>>> I’ve got some ‘upgrades’ to the basic pattern for you to try.  Lots of
>>> variations in Google images, but no rope-dub grub patterns.
>>>
>>> Wisconsin is the ‘home’ for this pattern, isn’t it?
>>>
>>> DonO
>>>
>>> *From:* Jack Harford 
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 19, 2019 5:12 PM
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink
>>> Squirrel Nymph
>>>
>>> Hi Don . . . Count me in too if we have a couple of months as recently
>>> posted.
>>>
>>> Did a trip to Wisconsin to visit my son and go to Kyle Zempel's trout
>>> camp. I was introduced to the Pink Squirrel at that time and landed a few
>>> trout with a tenkara rod. On returning to Indianapolis I ventured to the
>>> local pond with the Pink Squirrel still attached and decided what the heck
>>> let's just toss it in and see what happens. The fly hit the surface and
>>> about a foot under the water a big, really big sinister silver thing
>>> flashed on the fly and immediately broke me off. I have since tried pink
>>> squirrel flies several times on that pond and to my dismay have never
>>> gotten a single bite . . . not even from a bluegill. 
>>>
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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[Jack Harford]

Don

I think the spikey squirrel is just the ticket for the pink squirrel . . .
.

Tight lines,
Jack

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 1:53 PM DonO  wrote:

> Jack,
> Would the proper recipe dubbing be a spikey squirrel?
> So where’s Nick R. these days?
> Talking about the squirrel reminds me of him.
>
> Hoping to hear from Deb also.
>
> DonO
>
> *From:* Jack Harford 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 20, 2019 3:27 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink
> Squirrel Nymph
>
> Yep Pink Squirrel is a WI pattern. I think it came out of the Driftless
> Angler Fly Shop in Viroqua WI.
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 11:00 PM DonO 
>> Jack,
>> Thanks for the story- very interesting.
>>
>> I’ve got some ‘upgrades’ to the basic pattern for you to try.  Lots of
>> variations in Google images, but no rope-dub grub patterns.
>>
>> Wisconsin is the ‘home’ for this pattern, isn’t it?
>>
>> DonO
>>
>> *From:* Jack Harford 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 19, 2019 5:12 PM
>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink
>> Squirrel Nymph
>>
>> Hi Don . . . Count me in too if we have a couple of months as recently
>> posted.
>>
>> Did a trip to Wisconsin to visit my son and go to Kyle Zempel's trout
>> camp. I was introduced to the Pink Squirrel at that time and landed a few
>> trout with a tenkara rod. On returning to Indianapolis I ventured to the
>> local pond with the Pink Squirrel still attached and decided what the heck
>> let's just toss it in and see what happens. The fly hit the surface and
>> about a foot under the water a big, really big sinister silver thing
>> flashed on the fly and immediately broke me off. I have since tried pink
>> squirrel flies several times on that pond and to my dismay have never
>> gotten a single bite . . . not even from a bluegill. 
>>
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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[Jack Harford]

Thanks Gary for the corrections :)

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 10:35 AM Gary Webb  wrote:

> The Driftless Angler Fly Shop has stocked this fly but it opened in 2006.
> I watched John Bethke demonstrate how to tie it over twenty years ago.
> Feather Craft has the Pink Squirrel in their catalog with John's name on
> it.
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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[Jack Harford]

Yep Pink Squirrel is a WI pattern. I think it came out of the Driftless
Angler Fly Shop in Viroqua WI.

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 11:00 PM DonO  Jack,
> Thanks for the story- very interesting.
>
> I’ve got some ‘upgrades’ to the basic pattern for you to try.  Lots of
> variations in Google images, but no rope-dub grub patterns.
>
> Wisconsin is the ‘home’ for this pattern, isn’t it?
>
> DonO
>
> *From:* Jack Harford 
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 19, 2019 5:12 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink
> Squirrel Nymph
>
> Hi Don . . . Count me in too if we have a couple of months as recently
> posted.
>
> Did a trip to Wisconsin to visit my son and go to Kyle Zempel's trout
> camp. I was introduced to the Pink Squirrel at that time and landed a few
> trout with a tenkara rod. On returning to Indianapolis I ventured to the
> local pond with the Pink Squirrel still attached and decided what the heck
> let's just toss it in and see what happens. The fly hit the surface and
> about a foot under the water a big, really big sinister silver thing
> flashed on the fly and immediately broke me off. I have since tried pink
> squirrel flies several times on that pond and to my dismay have never
> gotten a single bite . . . not even from a bluegill. 
>
>
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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[Jack Harford]

Hi Don . . . Count me in too if we have a couple of months as recently
posted.

Did a trip to Wisconsin to visit my son and go to Kyle Zempel's trout camp.
I was introduced to the Pink Squirrel at that time and landed a few trout
with a tenkara rod. On returning to Indianapolis I ventured to the local
pond with the Pink Squirrel still attached and decided what the heck let's
just toss it in and see what happens. The fly hit the surface and about a
foot under the water a big, really big sinister silver thing flashed on the
fly and immediately broke me off. I have since tried pink squirrel flies
several times on that pond and to my dismay have never gotten a single bite
. . . not even from a bluegill. 

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 6:38 PM Phxflytyer  Don:
>
> Don’t forget to add me to your swap?
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2019, at 3:27 PM, DonO  wrote:
>
> Hi Ron, *welcome *to the swap.
>
> Just turn them in before you leave, as early arrivals are no problem at
> all. Just need to settle on the quantity first, or you can just send in 100
> in case Rene gets it that high.  lol
>
> Sometimes late arrivals for the deadline hold up a swap for a little, or
> even drop-outs needing replacements.
>
> It’s a relaxed, fun thing, so slipped dates are not capital offenses
> (handled in lower case court).
>
> DonO
>
> *From:* Ron Boutin 
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 19, 2019 2:25 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: AW: [VFB] Sign-up list update 1-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink
> Squirrel Nymph
>
> I would like to join in however I am leaving on a road trip in 3 weeks.
> Any idea on the due date ?
>
> Ron  B.
> *Tiers:   (re-updated as of 1/19 am)*
>
> 1.  Rick Zieger
> 2.  Allan Fish
> 3.  Neville Gosling
> 4.  Chuck Alexander (are you still doing WW charity auctions?)
> 5.  Don Ordes
> 6.  Renr Zillman
> 7.  Gary Webb  *1
> 8.  J Balmer
> 9.  Ron Boutin
> 10.
> 11.
> 12.
> 13.
> 14.
> 15.
> 16.
> 17.
> 18.
>
> *1  I did that ‘drinks’ swap (I may have had a helper- hard to remember
> details of events).  I’ll see if I can pull them out of my swap collection
> box, locate your PSQN, post a photo.  I tied a Cherry Fizz, which was a
> giant red salmon egg with a fuse (for explosive strikes).
>
> Thanks Gary for the walk down memory lane.  (I may be down to a cane pole
> while sitting on a lawn chair on a dock, Tenkara-styling it. But a PSQN
> would be a good choice then.)
>
> *2. I was thinking a light jig-style hook pattern for deeper water, too.
> (Tenkara approach)
>   A dark pink or red bead could also serve as the yolk of a hot pink
> egg collar.
>
> DonO
>
>
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>
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

[Jack Harford]

Good to hear!!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 2:38 PM Allan Fish  wrote:

> I just got a call from Tony.  He called Sunday and said that he felt
> like the walls are closing in on him.  He has not been home for 3
> months.  But today they told him he can go home a week from tomorrow.
> He is really excited.
>
> Allan
>
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Re: [VFB] Note from tony Spezio

[Jack Harford]

Good to hear from you Tony!!!
Take care and God bless
Jack

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 3:53 PM 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Did good with PT today, might be able to go home by the end of the month.
> Just on the computer to reply
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, September 6, 2018, 2:45:02 PM CDT, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB
> Mail  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 5, 2018, 7:54:18 PM CDT, Phxflytyer <
> phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> Great news.  TNX Allan.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
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> be very inconvenient for him to hook it up in his room, so he asked me to
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Re: [VFB] Iowa State Fair

[Jack Harford]

Way to go Rick . . . . all that practice pays off :D

Take care and tight lines,
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> The Iowa State Fair has  a flytying contest sponsored by the Hawkeye
> FlyFishers.
> Got second place in the open division and third in the dry fly division.
> Entered as Kevin Slater won a few things last year.
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Re: [VFB] Bad news and Great news.

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That's good to hear Al

keeping Tony in the prayers

Tight lines,
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> Tony Spezio called me today.  His bad news was that he had to have a toe
> amputated on Saturday.
>
> His great news was that the surgeon felt the foot did not need to be
> amputated.
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> He is still in the hospital at the moment.
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

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Thanks Al . . . Sending prayers . . .

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 2:45 PM Allan Fish  wrote:

> Tony is currently having some pretty severe complications.  He's been in
> the hospital for a week and will likely be in for at least another week
> then will have to go to a nursing home for rehab.  He preferred that I not
> go into details on the list.
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> *He has some requests for everyone*:
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> 1)NO CALLS TO HIS HOME -  Dot is getting overwhelmed with local
> calls and she is not in the best of shape either.
> 2)NO CALLS TO HIS CELL PHONE AT THIS TIME - he is having trouble
> talking and breathing and it totally exhausts him.
> 3)NO E-MAILS  AT THIS TIME -   Tony has no access to e-mails while
> he is in the hospital.  The last time he was in the hospital, he had
> received so many e-mails that he wasn't even able to read them and doesn't
> want that to happen again.  He hopes to be able to use his laptop once he
> gets in the rehab facility.
> 4)NO CARDS AT THIS TIME - they would have to go to the hospital
> and then get transferred, or they would go to his home and someone would
> have to go out there to get them and then bring them to him.
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> After Tony gets moved, he will let us know the best way to contact him.
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> If you pray, he appreciates being kept in our prayers.
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Re: [VFB] Don Ordes

[Jack Harford]

Is this the correct email??  f...@tribcsp.com

Tight lines,
Jack

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> need his email address.  The old one I had just returned a not.  Thanks
> Joyce
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>> So did I…Neville
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>> On Apr 22, 2018, at 7:00 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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>> Just did.
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Re: [VFB] Don . . . . Buggers should arrive today

[Jack Harford]

Nev,

Haven't heard anything from Don either. Hope he is alright.

Jack

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> Hey Jack:
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> Have you heard from Don lately? I have not had any response since before
> Christmas. Possibly computer problems or sick?  This is not like Don.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
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> On January 10, 2018 at 9:35:15 AM, Jack Harford (jharford.i...@gmail.com)
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> USPS is telling me that the rope dub buggers should arrive today. Thanks
> for hosting the swap!!
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> Tight lines,
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[VFB] Don . . . . Buggers should arrive today

[Jack Harford]

Hi Don

USPS is telling me that the rope dub buggers should arrive today. Thanks
for hosting the swap!!

Tight lines,
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Re: [VFB] Happy New Year

[Jack Harford]

I have the rope dub buggers in an envelope. Just need to get to the post
office 

On Jan 8, 2018 1:03 PM, "Peggy Brenner"  wrote:

> Happy Holiday to all, as we approach 2018 Florida saw frost for the first
> time in a while! We are all right with it but the folks living in tents not
> so good.  Seems all the fema funds got taken before everyone got some if
> the money, even renters were eligible for funds but only the savvy and
> great at getting government funds took part.
>
> My rope dub buggers don't have a name but will be on the way today.
>
> Peggy
>
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>> Have a Happy New Year from the cold state of Iowa.
>> Blessing in the New Year to all of you and yours.
>>
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Re: [VFB] Testing, testing... Rope-buggers Picture Palettes

[Jack Harford]

Hi Don

I could use a little more insight into the rope dub technique too.

Tight lines
Jack

On Oct 16, 2017 5:48 PM, "'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail" <
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> Hi Do nO;
>
> Been a little busy lately, I received the color palette, looks great!
>
> Wayneb
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Rene Zillmann
>  wrote:
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> Hi Don,
>
> got it, try to figure out which exotic material I might use to dub,
> Penguin? - no I'm kidding, no p. around here.
>
> Rene
>
> On 10/14/2017 02:46 PM, DonO wrote:
>
> Rope-buggers,
>
> Only got one reply on bugger palettes post.  Did it get through to
> everyone?
>
> DonO
>
> *From:* DonO 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:25 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [VFB] Rope-buggers Picture Palettes
>
> Wooly-bugger swappers:
>
> As I promised, here’s some choices of rope-dubbed wooly-buggers.  Sorry
> for the delay, home staging and visiting is a real routine-buster.
>
> These are samples showing how rope-dubbing can be used with different
> kinds of body materials, hackles, synthetics, furs, etc. to achieve
> different looks for different fishing.
> Pick one, zoom in, and see if you can re-create what I did as a rope-dub
> method.   A lot of styles are represented, so you may want to try something
> new for your box. Ask for materials if you can’t identify them.
>
> [image: OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA]
> [image: OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA]
>
> Hang on to your flies for a while before you send, as we just got an offer
> on the house and should contract this week.  Don’t know when we’ll actually
> move, so won’t know the address to send them to for a bit.  Latest closing
> date will be Jan 8th.  Will post my new address when we are ready.
>
>
> [image: View album]
> 
> Rope-dub bugger-swap samples
> 
> VIEW SLIDE SHOW
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>  DOWNLOAD
> ALL
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> This album has 2 photos and will be available on OneDrive until 1/12/2018.
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> DonO
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[VFB] Rope Dub Bugger

[Jack Harford]

Hi Don,

If there is still room put me down for a redneck bugger in black. One of
your disciples is going to teach me the rope dub technique :D

Tight lines
Jack

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Re: [VFB] Substitute for Tiemco 2499SP-BL?

[Jack Harford]

You might check out allenflyfishing.com and the mp003bl stinger. Some of
their hooks are good and some not, but all are inexpensive.

On May 30, 2017 6:04 AM, "Pete Gramp"  wrote:

> Sounds very cool - and much more in my price range.  I'll try a 25 pack
> out to test out the hooks, and if I like them (which I suspect I will) I
> can always get a 100-pack at a later date.  Truth be told, I'm a sucker for
> the packaging, and I like the idea of the hook holder that the 25-pack
> comes in, so that is part of why I'm starting out with a 25 pack haha.
> Many thanks for the suggestion, much appreciated - I hadn't heard of these
> stealth hooks prior to now.
> Thanks again,
> -Pete
>
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Joyce M Westphal 
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>
>> Must add, in my opinion, these Stealth hooks are a better hook all
>> around. They increase in hook length and depth as the hook size increases,
>> geometrically scientifically set up, and are the sharpest hooks I have ever
>> used, and I've used a lot of hooks.They are also the strongest hooks I have
>> ever used.  Check them out and read about them on the Stealth hook home
>> page.
>> I often tie the Nitro caddis with a greenish/brown core braid, a purple
>> glass bead for the bead and tiny starling feathers for the wing pads when I
>> am lazy and don't want to cut the sheeting wing pads. BTW, if you have a
>> set of cutters for small upright dry wings, you can use that wing cutter to
>> do the medallion sheeting wing pads..works really well and you can knock
>> out several dozen in very little time.
>>
>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Joyce M Westphal 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I tie these on a Stealth C10 hook, 100 cost $25.99 so cost 25 cents
>>> apiece,  and also on Mustad caddis hooks, cheaper,  and find no difference
>>> in fishability or catching quality. I do crush the barbs.  You can find
>>> them here:
>>> http://www.stealth.fish/products/100packs/.  I think that the black
>>> hooks really do seem to work better on these Nitro Caddis when there is
>>> bright sunlight as the black hook eliminates the glare from the sun.  This
>>> is just my opinion.  I buy mine from Eddie Robinson's flyfishing shop in
>>> Orem Ut.  The neat thing about these hooks, if you only want to purchase
>>> 25, is that you can get them in a great plastic box with a lift out hook
>>> holder that is great to simply take out and sit on the bench.  At any rate,
>>> check out the Stealth flyfishing hook page just for fun.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Pete Gramp 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone on this list know of a cheaper alternative, or similar
 hook, to the Tiemco (TMC) 2499SP-BL?  I saw the "Nitro Caddis Pupae" on
 www.intheriffle.com and would like to make a batch up, but I don't
 know that a standard curved scud hook will do the trick or not.  the
 2499SP-BL is 3x heavy, 2x short, 3x wide, at least according to one site I
 found them on... though it was in a foreign language so I don't know if I
 was reading that correctly or not.  One seller on amazon said it is 2x
 heavy, 3x wide, 2x short, so I may go with those specs.  Either way, it
 isn't exactly a standard scud, or a rounded-out klinkhammer hook either.  A
 substitute could have a hook barb, I can crush barbs like the best of them,
 that isn't a problem, it doesn't have to be barbless if it saves a few
 bucks.  I just can't pull the trigger to spend 12 bucks on 25 hooks for
 these, but maybe it's just been so long since I've bought hooks that this
 is the going price now... I've been fortunate to have stocked up on literal
 thousands of hooks about a decade ago, and haven't had to buy hooks in
 ages... so the price of a hook may have gone up from what I remember it
 being back then...

 Someone set me straight, if this is the going price of hooks these
 days, but I'm a cheapskate looking for a cheaper price and thought hooks
 were less than 48 cents US a piece.  I realize it was 10 or 11 years ago,
 but I bought mine at a little under half that price.  Has prices escalated
 that much in 10 years, or is it because of the special nature of the hook,
 or something else I'm not thinking of?

 Thanks for any help you have, and tight wraps,
 -Pete

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Re: [VFB] Vfb Mail

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Answer what??

On May 4, 2017 2:04 PM, "Allan Fish"  wrote:

> On 5/4/17 1:47 PM, ray...@earthlink.net wrote:
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> Please answer.
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> JIM
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> I did.
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Re: [VFB] SWAPS both sent out today

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did you say you have some pictures??

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Peggy Brenner 
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> and had several packages so they went on their own.
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Re: [VFB] SWAPS both sent out today

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Yes, thanks Peggy for managing the swap :)

Tight lines,
Jack

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Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

[Jack Harford]

Don . . . Tiemco 518 #32 and Semperfli Nano Silk 30d. (Available at
jstockard)

On Apr 3, 2017 2:22 PM, "Niclas (Gmail)"  wrote:

> Entertainment is the key to success. Some of us have to stay away from
> singing and dancing though. :)
>
> /Nick
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:28 PM, DonO  wrote:
>
>> I’m going to work on making the video more entertaining than a normal
>> tutorial.  That means a lot of clips of the materials and tools used,
>> comparing them to normal.  Then I’ll have section of the actual tie.  Since
>> the tie itself is not practical for most tiers, I would think entertainment
>> is the ultimate goal. And it’s even very hard to get ahold of the hooks
>> these days. I’ll make sure the video clips migrate time to time to me tying
>> without glasses or a magnifying glass just for proof of naked-eye tying.  A
>> few years more and I’ll probably need a magnifying glass to tie these.
>>
>> Thread check. I would not know what denier this is, but it’s close to
>> 50/0 denear as I can tell.  The hand-selected thread I use is so fine that
>> one 12”+/- strand of it floats up and away and disappears in a couple of
>> seconds, like real baby-spider float-silk strands.  I sent Hans some awhile
>> back.  It’s from a clothes-line that was clear tube over a spun
>> multi-filament core.  I hope to be able to show all of this on the video,
>> if I can still find a piece of the clothes-line in my stock-piles. The
>> bobbin looks like it is hanging in space unless the light shines off of it
>> just right.  My camera can catch it, don’t know if the video camera can.
>>
>> I’ll try to mix some humor in also, as I am want to do.  AAMOF, a fishing
>> sequence with me catching a small trout on a #32 dropper would be sweet.  A
>> #32 Copper John would be the ticket for a dropper.
>>
>> DOnO
>>
>> *From:* Pacres 
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 03, 2017 9:12 AM
>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
>>
>> Can't wait to see the video, Don. I have a couple spools of the
>> UNI-Caenis thread. Label says it is a 20 denier thread and is really fine.
>> I've only ever tried tying with it a couple times and it is quite fragile.
>> Cudos to you Don for tying at both extremes of the size scale.
>>
>> On 3 April 2017 at 09:51, Phxflytyer  wrote:
>>
>>> I am sure that you have a much lighter touch then me. I am too heavy
>>> with my pressure and no matter how I try I still break the Guedebrod, even
>>> when I take it off the spools and use a regular bobbin?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>> Alan Di Somma
>>> Phoenix, AZ.
>>>
>>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:20 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
>>> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I never really had any problem with the 10/0 breaking. I have not
>>> tried the Vee?  thread.
>>> > Tony
>>> > 
>>> > On Mon, 4/3/17, Alan Di Somma  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
>>> > To: "VFB List" 
>>> > Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 8:16 AM
>>> >
>>> > I also
>>> > should have mentioned that the Veveeus?12/0 is still
>>> > stronger then the Guedebrod 10/0.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
>>> >
>>> >  "Any man who thinks he can be
>>> > happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
>>> > him; better take a closer look at the American
>>> > Indian."
>>> > Henry
>>> > Ford
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Alan Di
>>> > Somma 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > When I fished the San Juan
>>> > River in New Mexico a couple of years back I brought my
>>> > tying stuff and tied some 28 and 30’s.I had Bennecci 16/0 and I liked
>>> it
>>> > better then the Guedebrod 10/0 which I thought broke too
>>> > easily. Never did like that Guedebrod.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
>>> >
>>> >  "Any man who thinks he can be
>>> > happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
>>> > him; better take a closer look at the American
>>> > Indian."
>>> > Henry
>>> > Ford
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at
>>> > 8:00 AM, Niclas (Gmail) 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > I
>>> > started to "make" my own thread for flies smaller
>>> > than #26. Picked out a few filaments from a piece of GSP
>>> > thread, waxed, twisted and put it on a little spool. That
>>> > was TRUE spiderweb... à la super strong. Using that on a
>>> > video it would look like the fly was tying itself while you
>>> > were just moving your hand around it.  ;o)
>>> > On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at
>>> > 11:39 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > I tyed
>>> > mine with 10/0 Gudebrod. Too bad they don't make  any
>>> > more. It was a finer thread than the 14/0 thread that I once

Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

[Jack Harford]

A friend ties 32s with a special 30 denier gelspun he gets from somewhere
across the pond.

On Apr 3, 2017 11:12 AM, "Pacres"  wrote:

> Can't wait to see the video, Don. I have a couple spools of the UNI-Caenis
> thread. Label says it is a 20 denier thread and is really fine. I've only
> ever tried tying with it a couple times and it is quite fragile. Cudos to
> you Don for tying at both extremes of the size scale.
>
> On 3 April 2017 at 09:51, Phxflytyer  wrote:
>
>> I am sure that you have a much lighter touch then me. I am too heavy with
>> my pressure and no matter how I try I still break the Guedebrod, even when
>> I take it off the spools and use a regular bobbin?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Phoenix, AZ.
>>
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:20 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
>> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I never really had any problem with the 10/0 breaking. I have not tried
>> the Vee?  thread.
>> > Tony
>> > 
>> > On Mon, 4/3/17, Alan Di Somma  wrote:
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
>> > To: "VFB List" 
>> > Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 8:16 AM
>> >
>> > I also
>> > should have mentioned that the Veveeus?12/0 is still
>> > stronger then the Guedebrod 10/0.
>> >
>> >
>> > phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
>> >
>> >  "Any man who thinks he can be
>> > happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
>> > him; better take a closer look at the American
>> > Indian."
>> > Henry
>> > Ford
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Alan Di
>> > Somma 
>> > wrote:
>> > When I fished the San Juan
>> > River in New Mexico a couple of years back I brought my
>> > tying stuff and tied some 28 and 30’s.I had Bennecci 16/0 and I liked it
>> > better then the Guedebrod 10/0 which I thought broke too
>> > easily. Never did like that Guedebrod.
>> >
>> >
>> > phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
>> >
>> >  "Any man who thinks he can be
>> > happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
>> > him; better take a closer look at the American
>> > Indian."
>> > Henry
>> > Ford
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at
>> > 8:00 AM, Niclas (Gmail) 
>> > wrote:
>> > I
>> > started to "make" my own thread for flies smaller
>> > than #26. Picked out a few filaments from a piece of GSP
>> > thread, waxed, twisted and put it on a little spool. That
>> > was TRUE spiderweb... à la super strong. Using that on a
>> > video it would look like the fly was tying itself while you
>> > were just moving your hand around it.  ;o)
>> > On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at
>> > 11:39 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
>> > wrote:
>> > I tyed
>> > mine with 10/0 Gudebrod. Too bad they don't make  any
>> > more. It was a finer thread than the 14/0 thread that I once
>> > had. This hook is real small, it will fit in the gape of the
>> > sx 32 you might find today.
>> >
>> > -- --
>> >
>> > On Mon, 4/3/17, Pete Gramp 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the
>> > making
>> >
>> >  To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com"
>> > 
>> >
>> >  Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 3:40 AM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  I am
>> >
>> >  anxiously awaiting that video - I can'r say
>> > I've
>> >
>> >  ever tied anything smaller than 26, mostly because I
>> > never
>> >
>> >  felt that fish would take anything smaller, but I admit
>> > also
>> >
>> >  because my skill level just isn't there for it.  I
>> > can
>> >
>> >  hardly fathom tying a 32 of any type (tiemco, mustad,
>> > any
>> >
>> >  type), much less a naked/ blind eye!
>> >
>> >  I've used caenis thread on
>> >
>> >  26's, and that was "big" thread for
>> > those (in
>> >
>> >  my opinion), I can't imagine the special materials
>> > you
>> >
>> >  had to procure to tie that small of a fly.  Any
>> > insights
>> >
>> >  into the materials - were any "unusual" or
>> > special
>> >
>> >  for the task?
>> >
>> >  Well done
>> >
>> >  my friend!-Pete
>> >
>> >  On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:06
>> >
>> >  AM, Hans Weilenmann 
>> >
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >  Technically difficult to film would be right. Well
>> >
>> >  done, m'friend. Looking forward to the video.
>> >
>> >  Cheers,HansNearsighted
>> >
>> >  Flytiers United
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:59
>> >
>> >  AM, DonO 
>> >
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  Well, I surprised myself. My old eyeballs are still up
>> >
>> >  to it.  3
>> >
>> >  -naked eye #32 RCs.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  Making a tying video for You tube,
>> > worked on it
>> >
>> >  today.  Should post
>> >

Re: [VFB] Re: New Zealand

[Jack Harford]

Beautiful fish!!!

On Mar 12, 2017 3:17 PM, "J Balmer"  wrote:

> This might be the prettiest.
>
> On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:16:39 PM UTC-5, J Balmer wrote:
>>
>> Had over two inches of rain the day before we were supposed to fish, and
>> the river was out, but Rob Vaz knew about a spring & creek fed lake that
>> might have some clean water. This was the first of a number of nice browns
>> caught last Thursday.
>>
>> J
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Re: [VFB] nice fish

[Jack Harford]

That's a beaut!!!

On Mar 4, 2017 1:57 PM, "J Balmer"  wrote:

Very nice...

J

On Fri, March 3, 2017 10:26 pm, Alan Di Somma wrote:
> caught this 24” Rainbow on an Epoxy Minnow. tried several buggers, simi
> seal leaches, and a white river demon with no luck.
>
>
> phxflytyer Phoenix,AZ
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Re: [VFB] Streamer Swap Update Feburary 1, 2017

[Jack Harford]

Those look great. I'm going to have to up my packaging presentation next
time 

On Feb 13, 2017 12:19 PM, "DonO" <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:

> My streamers and dry flies are in the boxes ready to go down to the post
> office.
> Hope ya’ll like.
> DonO
> [image: P1010058]
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: J Balmer
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> Subject: Re: [VFB] Streamer Swap Update Feburary 1, 2017
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> My Almost Dun spinners went out w/ toe tags, my Screamer streamers are
> going out tomorrow sans toe tags due to poor time management & computer
> issues. Pattern is fire orange thread, tail is fire orange marabou w/ two
> gold tinsel strips, body is Rusty Brown Ice Dub, gills are ginger hackle,
> lateral "fins" are Badger Orange hackle. Oh yeah, 6-7 turns of .03 lead
> wire.
>
> J
>
> On Wed, February 1, 2017 5:06 pm, Peggy Brenner wrote:
> > to vfb-mail Let's also have a streamer swap, open pattern of tyers
> choice,
> > flies due February 15, 2017
> >
> >
> > Send to  266 N River Rd
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> > 2  Don Ordes- assorted large streamers
> > 3  Wayne Blake-Hedges
> > 4  Jack Harford
> > 5  Michael Bliss-Micky Finn - ARRIVED
> > 6  Bob Hendry
> > 7  Rene Zillmann
> > 8  J Balmer
> > 9  Joyce Westphal Jack Gartside softhackle-ARRIVED
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Re: [VFB] Streamer Swap Update Feburary 1, 2017

[Jack Harford]

Hi Peggy

Sent dries and streamers today.

Tight lines
Jack

On Feb 1, 2017 6:06 PM, "Peggy Brenner" <ladyflyt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> to vfb-mail
> Let's also have a streamer swap, open pattern of tyers choice, flies due 
> February
> 15, 2017
>
> Send to  266 N River Rd
> Milford, NH 03055
>
> 1. Peggy Brenner Gray Ghost
> 2  Don Ordes- assorted large streamers
> 3  Wayne Blake-Hedges
> 4  Jack Harford
> 5  Michael Bliss-Micky Finn - ARRIVED
> 6  Bob Hendry
> 7  Rene Zillmann
> 8  J Balmer
> 9  Joyce Westphal Jack Gartside softhackle-ARRIVED
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Re: [VFB] Dry Fly / Streamer Swps -- pattern

[Jack Harford]

Hi Peggy,

When are the swap flies due?  I will decide this weekend what I am going to
tie.

Tight lines,
Jack

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> Peggy,
>
> I can now tie a fly (sometimes two) before my shoulder starts hurting.
> YIPPEE!
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> I'll get them to you in a week or so, however I will NOT guarantee what
> they look like. :-(
>
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Re: [VFB] 2017 Sowbug Roundup - 20th Anniversary - Tiers Invitation

[Jack Harford]

Yikes  I did not realize I was forwarding all those. That is the way it was
sent to me :(

On Dec 16, 2016 2:04 PM, "Neville Gosling" <nev.gosl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hmm!  That's very bad email practice to expose the list of all potential
> or past participants. All these addresses are stored on Google and every
> participant's IP and can't be erased by the participant. I suspect that all
> these addresses will now receive more Spam.
> Very unimpressed.
>
> --
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> Greater Vancouver
> BC  Canada
>
>
>
>
> Jack Harford wrote:
>
> J
>
> Here's the email I received
>
> Tight lines
> Jack
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Fred DuPre'" <flytyerf...@gmail.com>
> Date: Nov 9, 2016 3:49 PM
> Subject: Fwd: 2017 Sowbug Roundup - 20th Anniversary - Tiers Invitation
> To: "GRANT ADKINS" <adkinsan...@msn.com>, "Joseph A. Aimonette" <
> jaare...@aol.com>, <zayneif...@yahoo.com>, "Lesley Allen" <
> lesallenshoo...@aol.com>, "Peter & Stella Allen" <allenpbflyfis...@aol.com>,
> "Michael Ames" <aflycas...@sbcglobal.net>, "Phil Ames" <
> philames...@gmail.com>, "Jere Anderson" <jaand75...@cs.com>, <
> jbear...@aol.com>, <johnnythec...@yahoo.com>, "Dutch Baughman" <
> dutchbaughm...@icloud.com>, "Dutch Baughman" <du...@d-1a.com>, "Outlook
> Customer Care" <dutchbaughm...@mac.com>, "Ward Bean" <wardb...@cox.net>,
> "Scott Bearden" <scott.bear...@gmail.com>, <rkbeas...@suddenlink.net>,
> "Al Beatty" <albeat...@aol.com>, "Terry Beeson" <tbee...@hotmail.com>, <
> codyb...@swbell.net>, "Julia Bell" <flyfshr...@gmail.com>, "RR Benton" <
> rrben...@knology.net>, "Matt Bennett" <m.bennett...@gmail.com>,
> "Edflyfisher" <edflyfis...@aol.com>, "John Berry" <
> berrybroth...@infodash.com>, <qberr...@live.com>, "Tom Berry" <
> writbe...@yahoo.com>, "Diane Blair" <diane_bl...@sbcglobal.net>, "RICHARD
> BLAIR" <rblai...@hotmail.com>, <coltonbaile...@gmail.com>, <
> ethan_bow...@student.asun.edu>, <gionthe...@yahoo.com>, "Victor
> Bockstadter" <vict...@centurytel.net>, "Kevin Boddy" <ke...@fishwithoz.com>,
> <flytye...@yahoo.com>, "Ray Boudreaux" <rpb...@gmail.com>, "Brooks
> Bouldin" <bro...@bbouldin.com>, "Al Bourisaw" <trou...@charter.net>,
> "David M. Boyer" <dbo...@glodesigns.com>, "Valley Branscum" <
> troutbuz...@yahoo.com>, "Terry Briggs II" <terrybrig...@gmail.com>,
> "Peggy Brenner" <peg...@pbandj.us>, <kimberlybrigg...@yahoo.com>, "Terry
> Briggs" <tbri...@centurytel.net>, <lbrown...@ionet.net>, "Michael Brown" <
> flyfishe...@gmail.com>, <tonyflybyni...@cox.net>, <woodla...@gmail.com>,
> "Dirk Burton" <kayakflyfis...@yahoo.com>, "brian camp" <
> trout4...@hotmail.com>, "Colin Carr" <colinyonder...@yahoo.com>, <
> yogabea...@yahoo.com>, <flytyerlez...@gmail.com>, <
> n.christop...@curb.kansas.gov>, "Troutman" <sowbug...@suddenlink.net>,
> "Scary Larry" <onthefl...@sbcglobal.net>, "robert clemensen" <
> rcl...@aol.com>, "L. C. Clower" <l.c.clo...@gmail.com>, "Chris Cohen" <
> chriscoh...@earthlink.net>, <pcoh...@mycap.rr.com>, "stacy corley" <
> srcor...@hotmail.com>, "Catch Cormier" <ca...@laflyfish.com>, <
> dbcor...@aol.com>, <paul...@suddenlink.net>, "Mark Crawford" <mark@
> springriverfliesandguides.com>, <tomcrisw...@ktis.net>, "Theodore Crona" <
> tedcr...@yahoo.com>, <trkyhunter...@yahoo.com>, "Jim Crump" <
> crump...@peoplepc.com>, <endah...@comcast.net>, "David Darnell" <
> davidldarn...@gmail.com>, <swdarro...@yahoo.com>, "Barry Dauphin" <
> bpdaup...@cox.net>, <irrtrout...@suddenlink.net>, "Charlotte Day" <
> cmda...@gmail.com>, "cmday3297" <cmday3...@yahoo.com>, "Jon Dehart" <
> jsdpoint...@yahoo.com>, "Larry Dice" <ld...@jccc.edu>, "Russell Doughty" <
> rwdoug...@msn.com>, <rust...@hotmail.com>, <djdunderd...@agfc.state.ar.us>,
> "Rusty&qu

[VFB] Fwd: 2017 Sowbug Roundup - 20th Anniversary - Tiers Invitation

[Jack Harford]

J

Here's the email I received

Tight lines
Jack
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Date: Nov 9, 2016 3:49 PM
Subject: Fwd: 2017 Sowbug Roundup - 20th Anniversary - Tiers Invitation
To: "GRANT ADKINS" <adkinsan...@msn.com>, "Joseph A. Aimonette" <
jaare...@aol.com>, <zayneif...@yahoo.com>, "Lesley Allen" <
lesallenshoo...@aol.com>, "Peter & Stella Allen" <allenpbflyfis...@aol.com>,
"Michael Ames" <aflycas...@sbcglobal.net>, "Phil Ames" <
philames...@gmail.com>, "Jere Anderson" <jaand75...@cs.com>, <
jbear...@aol.com>, <johnnythec...@yahoo.com>, "Dutch Baughman" <
dutchbaughm...@icloud.com>, "Dutch Baughman" <du...@d-1a.com>, "Outlook
Customer Care" <dutchbaughm...@mac.com>, "Ward Bean" <wardb...@cox.net>,
"Scott Bearden" <scott.bear...@gmail.com>, <rkbeas...@suddenlink.net>, "Al
Beatty" <albeat...@aol.com>, "Terry Beeson" <tbee...@hotmail.com>, <
codyb...@swbell.net>, "Julia Bell" <flyfshr...@gmail.com>, "RR Benton" <
rrben...@knology.net>, "Matt Bennett" <m.bennett...@gmail.com>,
"Edflyfisher" <edflyfis...@aol.com>, "John Berry" <
berrybroth...@infodash.com>, <qberr...@live.com>, "Tom Berry" <
writbe...@yahoo.com>, "Diane Blair" <diane_bl...@sbcglobal.net>, "RICHARD
BLAIR" <rblai...@hotmail.com>, <coltonbaile...@gmail.com>, <
ethan_bow...@student.asun.edu>, <gionthe...@yahoo.com>, "Victor
Bockstadter" <vict...@centurytel.net>, "Kevin Boddy" <ke...@fishwithoz.com>,
<flytye...@yahoo.com>, "Ray Boudreaux" <rpb...@gmail.com>, "Brooks Bouldin"
<bro...@bbouldin.com>, "Al Bourisaw" <trou...@charter.net>, "David M.
Boyer" <dbo...@glodesigns.com>, "Valley Branscum" <troutbuz...@yahoo.com>,
"Terry Briggs II" <terrybrig...@gmail.com>, "Peggy Brenner" <
peg...@pbandj.us>, <kimberlybrigg...@yahoo.com>, "Terry Briggs" <
tbri...@centurytel.net>, <lbrown...@ionet.net>, "Michael Brown" <
flyfishe...@gmail.com>, <tonyflybyni...@cox.net>, <woodla...@gmail.com>,
"Dirk Burton" <kayakflyfis...@yahoo.com>, "brian camp" <
trout4...@hotmail.com>, "Colin Carr" <colinyonder...@yahoo.com>, <
yogabea...@yahoo.com>, <flytyerlez...@gmail.com>, <
n.christop...@curb.kansas.gov>, "Troutman" <sowbug...@suddenlink.net>,
"Scary Larry" <onthefl...@sbcglobal.net>, "robert clemensen" <rcl...@aol.com>,
"L. C. Clower" <l.c.clo...@gmail.com>, "Chris Cohen" <
chriscoh...@earthlink.net>, <pcoh...@mycap.rr.com>, "stacy corley" <
srcor...@hotmail.com>, "Catch Cormier" <ca...@laflyfish.com>, <
dbcor...@aol.com>, <paul...@suddenlink.net>, "Mark Crawford" <
m...@springriverfliesandguides.com>, <tomcrisw...@ktis.net>, "Theodore
Crona" <tedcr...@yahoo.com>, <trkyhunter...@yahoo.com>, "Jim Crump" <
crump...@peoplepc.com>, <endah...@comcast.net>, "David Darnell" <
davidldarn...@gmail.com>, <swdarro...@yahoo.com>, "Barry Dauphin" <
bpdaup...@cox.net>, <irrtrout...@suddenlink.net>, "Charlotte Day" <
cmda...@gmail.com>, "cmday3297" <cmday3...@yahoo.com>, "Jon Dehart" <
jsdpoint...@yahoo.com>, "Larry Dice" <ld...@jccc.edu>, "Russell Doughty" <
rwdoug...@msn.com>, <rust...@hotmail.com>, <djdunderd...@agfc.state.ar.us>,
"Rusty" <caa...@lusfiber.net>, <charleseasterl...@sbcglobal.net>, "Tom &
Patti Logan" <tomlo...@comcast.net>, "chris and carol jackson" <
fff...@gmail.com>, "Frank" <bghrn...@wavecom.net>, <muski...@juno.com>, <
karl.elliot...@yahoo.com>, "Ralph Eichholz" <mathm...@aol.com>, "Ray
Emerson" <waco...@yahoo.com>, "Kathy Enriquez" <katmarenriq...@sbcglobal.net>,
<mar...@swbell.net>, "David Etgen" <dret...@verizon.net>, "Capital City Fly
Fishers" <jim.farth...@embarqmail.com>, "Allan Fish" <afi...@sbcglobal.net>,
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<grizzk...@aol.com>, <freeman...@sbcglobal.net>, <sfritzena...@gmail.c

Re: [VFB] Thanksgiving.

[Jack Harford]

May your Thanksgivings be filled with family, friends, peace and love.

God Bless,
Jack

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Re: [VFB] international fly tying festival

[Jack Harford]

Let us know how it goes. Too bad it is so far away from Indy :D

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Re: [VFB] Classic Dry flies 10/19 update IMPORTANT

[Jack Harford]

Hi Peggy,

What is the definition of "Classic" dry flies for the purpose of this swap.
Most of the fly fishing in Indiana is warmwater so classic dry flies are
not our typical patterns to tie.

Thanks,
Jack

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Donna <tieem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can i ty assortment of flies or do they all have to be  the same ?
>
>   Donna
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> Sent from Donna's iphone
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> On Oct 19, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Peggy Brenner <ladyflyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I have 12 members who wnat to be in the Dry fly swap, is 12 ok with
> everyone in the swap and we call it closed!
>
> Let's do Classic Dry Flies, tyers choice of pattern.  I'm limiting to 10
> participants with flies due February 15, 2017
>
> 1. Peggy Brenner
> 2  Martin Westbeek
> 3  Tony Spezio
> 4 Don Ordes
> 5  Mike Bliss
> 6  Pete Gramp
> 7  Wayne Blake-Hedges  Hendrickson dry
> 8J Balmer
> 9  Rick Zieger
> 10  Jack Harford
> 11 Bob Hendry
> Rene Zillmann
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Re: [VFB] Dry Fly Swap

[Jack Harford]

Hi Peggy,

If there is still space put me down too. I have not tied a lot of classic
dry flies, so I'll need to study a little and pick a pattern.

Thanks
Jack

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> If a paraloop adams works, I will be in.
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> Rick
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> I am in.
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> Let's do Classic Dry Flies, tyers choice of pattern.  I'm limiting to 10
> participants with flies due February 15, 2017
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Re: [VFB] Streamer Swap

[Jack Harford]

Count me in for the streamer swap!!

On Oct 17, 2016 7:26 PM, "'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail" <
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> I'm in for the Streamer swap!
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> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:23 PM, DonO
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> Sign me up again.  After ‘Streamers 365’ with Pacres (Daren), I’m itching
> to tie a few more.
> Each one will be different, though, and all originals. Glad it’s just 10
> for both swaps.
> DonO
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> *From:* Peggy Brenner
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> Let's also have a streamer swap, open pattern of tyers choice, flies due
> February 15, 2017
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> 1. Peggy Brenner Yellow Jane Craig
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Re: [VFB] Swap

[Jack Harford]

How about a streamer swap 

On Oct 13, 2016 10:34 AM, "Phxflytyer"  wrote:

> Peggy;
>
> If you are coming this far I can show you some really great fishing
> adventures.
>
> Right near the Grand Canyon is Lees Ferry. A premier fishery.
>
> The Green River in Utah is a must see as well as the Gunnison River in
> Colorado. There is always my favorite River in the country..The Frying
> Pan River in Co. also. It runs right into the Roaring Fork near Basalt and
> Aspen.
>
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> Sent from my iPad
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> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2016, at 5:04 AM, Peggy Brenner  wrote:
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> We are going to about 30 National Parks, this is a trip that was planned
> when my Mom was alive and she didn't make it. But, she and I had opened a
> Sharebuilder account and we built up the funds to go to fund the trip, it's
> done pretty good in 10 years so we are going.  Starting at Carlsbad Caverns
> looping up and around hitting Oregon, Livingston MT for 2 weeks and on to
> the 3 states we have not been to about 6 months.
>
> Dry flies sound good
>
> Peggy
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> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Michael Bliss 
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>> Where out west Peggy?  I would be happy to do a swap especially if it
>> were a dry fly swap.
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>> Mike
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>>> It's been a while since we had a swap, so I was thinking we are staying
>>> home this winter, no south for us. Instead we are going west for 5-6 months
>>> next spring to fall.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking a favorite fly swap or a Sowbug 20th anniversary swap.
>>> Ideas??
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Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders

[Jack Harford]

Agree with Henk that movable pegs are not necessary unless one has a lot of
time and wants to experiment with different tapers. My first board was
temporary and just had 16 penny nails for pegs and used a drill to furl one
leg at a time. Later I saw a setup where both legs are furled at the same
time and have built one of those setups. I mostly use 4 lb or 2 lb mono for
my leaders for warm water fishing, but also make some with 6/0 uni thread
for the 3 wt rod and more delicate trout fishing.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 3:16 AM, Henk Verhaar 
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> In actual practice, I never move my pegs around - I ‘make do’ with 7 ft
> furled sections using an ’11-5-3’ setup (resulting in a finished section
> with 22-16-10-8-6 strands of UNI 6/0 thread) for all my fishing, changing
> the tippet section to match the type of fishing. I did make an extension
> board to make 13 ft Tenkara furled leaders (lines) from UNI 6/0 - which I
> impregnate with boiled linseed oil, like traditional silk lines, only very
> low tech, just immersing them in the BLO until they’re soaked, then hanging
> them up to dry… Note that I don’t do this for normal fly fishing leaders
> (although, now that I think about it, I may just try that).
>
> Henk
>
> On 5 Oct 2016, at 08:56, KP  wrote:
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> http://globalflyfisher.com/fish-better/twined-or-furled-leaders
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> Has a description of how to make a board. Drill various holes so the pegs
> can be moved to make a variety of lengths of leader.
> Hopefully e that helps
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Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders

[Jack Harford]

Tie one on . . . I guess 

On Oct 6, 2016 10:11 PM, "Wes Wada"  wrote:

> Hi Tony,
>
> What do you do at a Tyers' party?
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> Cheers,
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>> Say Skip Shorb this evening at the tyers party.
>> Tony
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>> On Thu, 10/6/16, Jack Lehman  wrote:
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>>  Subject: Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders
>>  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>  Date: Thursday, October 6, 2016, 8:31 PM
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Google Claude
>>  Freaner Furled Leader.
>>That's the setup I use.  Also look for Shorb
>>  Loop
>>
>>
>>
>>Jack
>>
>>Austin
>>
>>
>>
>>On 10/3/2016 9:26 PM, Alan Di Somma wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Does any one have the spec’s for making a furled
>>  leader set up?
>>
>>
>>
>>I love using them but not
>>  for buying them.
>>
>>
>>
>>I would like to make my own
>>  but don’t know how to
>>  make the board?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>phxflytyer
>>Phoenix,AZ
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Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders

[Jack Harford]

globalflyfisher.com/fish-better/twined-or-*furled*-*leaders*


   1.
   

   2.
   



*or **http://furledleaders.proboards.com/
 (you have to register, but has the
most furled leader info)*

I have a semi-automated furled leader board and may have some pics or be
able to answer question. Been furling leaders for several years.

tight lines
Jack

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> http://tinyurl.com/jmr3s8g
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Re: [VFB] Tony S.

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Sending out prayer!!


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Re: [VFB]

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What kind of vise is that???

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

Usually it is not the number of flies, but a few of the right ones that
matters ;)

On Aug 30, 2016 11:42 AM, "Allan Fish"  wrote:

> On 8/30/16 10:18 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
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>> Success begins with the acquisition and organization of a well-stocked
>> tackle box.
>>
> Would that describe my pocket box full of flies?
>
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Re: [VFB] Fish for A Fish

[Jack Harford]

Nice!!

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> Some of the best of the day.
> Taken very shallow in the water column with a soft hackle fly variant.
>
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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

[Jack Harford]

Sending healing vibrations your way :)

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Gary Webb  wrote:

> Dear VFB friends,
>
> I am humbly asking for your prayers for my wife Susan.  Saturday morning
> she suffered an injury to her spinal cord. Not life threatening, just life
> changing. I can't give many details because the hospital where I work is
> very strict about HIPPA compliance. One strike and you are out.
> I can say that the  neurosurgeon has offered little hope that she would
> regain any use of her legs. But as our pastor said earlier today: "God's
> people are a people of hope."  So we are hoping and praying, and asking the
> same of friends and family.
>
> Gary
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

Agree with Rick - the flies I use the most are not available in fly shops.


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> Considering many of the patterns that I tie and use are not commercially
> available, then the cost of tying is cheaper.
>
> Rick
>
>
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> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:46 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] QFTD
>
> J,
>
> You and I are in the same status.  I'm afraid to count all the shoe boxes
> of materials I have - and I can't get the lids to shut tightly on most of
> them.
>
> Save money?  Forget it.  It's like any hobby - you do it for fun, not to
> save money.  If you're doing it for work, it's no longer fun.
>
> Al
>
>
> On 6/14/16 10:19 AM, J Balmer wrote:
>
> I’d have to tie for a long time before all the supplies & gear I’ve
> purchased make it cheapJ
>
>
> *From:* 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:50 AM
> *To:* Google Inc. mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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> *Subject:* [VFB] QFTD
>
> "There are two basic reasons for dressing your own imitations: (1) to get
> exactly the type of fly you want whenever you need them, in the number sand
> sizes required, and (2) to save money.  In short, fly tying is convenient
> and cheap."
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> Rick
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Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

I find Scalawags and eccentrics to be much more interesting than "normal"
people :D


On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> p.s.:
> I also like to be around other fly tyers.  You get to meet so many neat
> people.
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> And the occasional scalawag like me.
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> Allan
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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Convenient . . . Maybe, Cheap . . . Questionable ;)
On Jun 14, 2016 9:49 AM, "'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail" <
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> and cheap."
>
> George Almy   "Tying & Fishing Terrestrials"
>
> Rick
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Re: [VFB] Fishing

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> Yep - sounds like a catfish to me. Got lucky and landed a 27" about 10lb
> cat on 6lb tippet one time. It was a fun battle :)
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:38 AM, J Balmer <jbal...@betadigm.com> wrote:
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>> While I never saw the fish, it acted like catfish. I used to have a two
>> piece 5 wt that I kept rigged for when I only had time to go to the pond,
>> had a cat in almost the same exact place crack the rod right @ the ferrule
>> while I was fighting it. That was a smaller fish:)
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 11:33 AM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Fishing
>>
>> I had the same thing happen at a slew on Crooked Creek but I got the see
>> the Carp. I thought I was snagged but the line slowly started coming up.
>> The Carp was right up on top, it looked like a submarine coming up. It just
>> stayed there for a few seconds and rolled breaking off my last Chili
>> Pepper. I tried to have it take another fly with no luck.
>> Tony
>> 
>> On Mon, 6/6/16, Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Subject: Re: [VFB] Fishing
>>  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>  Date: Monday, June 6, 2016, 2:59 PM
>>
>>  > Threw back & hit
>>  what I thought was a snag, until it started moving.  Moved about ten
>> feet along the shore, realized  it was hooked & even  though I was  letting
>> line out through my fingers, the 3x tippet snapped
>>
>>  about 6 inches from the leader.
>>
>>  Sounds like a big old
>>  catfish.
>>
>>  Get some heavy
>>  tippet on and go back and catch that dood so we know what
>>
>>  it was.  
>>
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Re: [VFB] Fishing

[Jack Harford]

Yep - sounds like a catfish to me. Got lucky and landed a 27" about 10lb
cat on 6lb tippet one time. It was a fun battle :)


On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:38 AM, J Balmer  wrote:

> While I never saw the fish, it acted like catfish. I used to have a two
> piece 5 wt that I kept rigged for when I only had time to go to the pond,
> had a cat in almost the same exact place crack the rod right @ the ferrule
> while I was fighting it. That was a smaller fish:)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 11:33 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Fishing
>
> I had the same thing happen at a slew on Crooked Creek but I got the see
> the Carp. I thought I was snagged but the line slowly started coming up.
> The Carp was right up on top, it looked like a submarine coming up. It just
> stayed there for a few seconds and rolled breaking off my last Chili
> Pepper. I tried to have it take another fly with no luck.
> Tony
> 
> On Mon, 6/6/16, Allan Fish  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [VFB] Fishing
>  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>  Date: Monday, June 6, 2016, 2:59 PM
>
>  > Threw back & hit
>  what I thought was a snag, until it started moving.  Moved about ten feet
> along the shore, realized  it was hooked & even  though I was  letting line
> out through my fingers, the 3x tippet snapped
>
>  about 6 inches from the leader.
>
>  Sounds like a big old
>  catfish.
>
>  Get some heavy
>  tippet on and go back and catch that dood so we know what
>
>  it was.  
>
>  af
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RE: [VFB] Fishing

[Jack Harford]

You'd think so. Maybe nicks in the tippet or knots. Usually I'm using 10 lb
mono when bass fishing. This article says that mono has a higher breaking
strength than flouro :
http://swiftflyfishing.com/blogs/news/15472069-cutting-through-the-bullshit-the-mono-vs-fluoro-debate
On Jun 6, 2016 3:21 PM, "J Balmer" <jbal...@betadigm.com> wrote:

> I figured 8 ½ would be plentyJ
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> Maybe try 10 lb mono for tippet 
>
> On Jun 6, 2016 11:56 AM, "J Balmer" <jbal...@betadigm.com> wrote:
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> So, yesterday I took an hour & went to the pond for an hour. First time
> I’ve fished since Sowbug. Used  the 7 wt because it was gusting, I was
> targeting bass & I knew there were some big cats where I was gonna fling
> flies. Started out w/  a Chili Pepper (my slightly different versionJ),
> caught some nice gills but no bass. Moved around, broke off the Chili
> Pepper on something  & decided to go w/ a heavy olive bugger. I tie mine w/
> a little gold tinsel in the tail & palmered grizzly hackle. Still no bass,
> but I had a coupla hits in the spot I broke off on.  Threw back & hit what
> I thought was a snag, until it started moving.  Moved about ten feet along
> the shore, realized it was hooked & even though I was letting line out
> through my fingers, the 3x tippet snapped about 6 inches from the leader.
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Re: [VFB] Fishing

[Jack Harford]

Maybe try 10 lb mono for tippet 
On Jun 6, 2016 11:56 AM, "J Balmer"  wrote:

> So, yesterday I took an hour & went to the pond for an hour. First time
> I’ve fished since Sowbug. Used  the 7 wt because it was gusting, I was
> targeting bass & I knew there were some big cats where I was gonna fling
> flies. Started out w/  a Chili Pepper (my slightly different versionJ),
> caught some nice gills but no bass. Moved around, broke off the Chili
> Pepper on something  & decided to go w/ a heavy olive bugger. I tie mine w/
> a little gold tinsel in the tail & palmered grizzly hackle. Still no bass,
> but I had a coupla hits in the spot I broke off on.  Threw back & hit what
> I thought was a snag, until it started moving.  Moved about ten feet along
> the shore, realized it was hooked & even though I was letting line out
> through my fingers, the 3x tippet snapped about 6 inches from the leader.
>
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

And why do fish attack terrestrials with long dangling bright yellow legs??
On Jun 1, 2016 11:30 AM, "'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail" <
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> I always move a hopper.  Thought this might stir the pot.
>
> Rickm
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> Why then do the fish seem to be stimulated by twitching the fly? Or is
> that just our perception?
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

Why then do the fish seem to be stimulated by twitching the fly? Or is that
just our perception?

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Re: [VFB] Speaking of Vises

[Jack Harford]

Tony . . . which Dyna King vise do you have??
On May 7, 2016 12:21 PM, "'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail" <
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> I chipped the jaws on my Regal, sent them in and had new jaws in no time
> with a warning not to put small hooks right in the tips of the jaws. They
> would only replace them one time.
> Good people to deal with. I tye 99% of the time on my Dyna King and use it
> at shows because they sponsor me.
> I think maybe I have too many vises. LOL
> Tony
>
>
> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 6:58 AM, Peggy Brenner <ladyflyt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I have had a HMH since I started tying and use it every week for Salmon
> flies.  It is a small company in Maine with a new owner and I've never had
> any problems.
>
> I use the Regal at shows as they sponsor my fly tying classes with 6
> vises, it also is just as nice, easy to use and so far have not had a break
> with one.  They also have a traveler that I really like, just move the
> regular head to the stem and your are off with less that 8 pounds in your
> bag.
>
> Peggy
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Phxflytyer <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Jack:
>
> I have a Renzetti Traveler Rotary that I use to tie most of my flies from
>  sz.30 to 4/0. All without changing jaws.
>
> I recently got a Dyna King stationary that I like very much.In my
> opinion (which is worth as much as you have paid for it ) you can never
> have enough vices.
>
> Or is that vises?
>
>
> Oh well both have their place!
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> Thank You,
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> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On May 5, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Jack Harford <jharford.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I find myself preferring a conventional vise over the full rotary types
> mostly because of the awkward positioning of the hand when attaching
> materials.  Currently I have a Anvil Apex that can do just about everything
> I want from size 24 to 1/0 worm hooks.  However, I have had thoughts of
> upgrading to a HMH or Dyna King conventional vise. Does anyone in this
> group have suggestions or experiences with these vises or similar ones? Has
> anyone used one of the A K Best vises?
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> Looking forward to feedback.
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> Tight lines,
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

Or is it spelled "snarkasm" anyway we cherish it ;)
On May 6, 2016 10:33 PM, "Jack Harford" <jharford.i...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh . . . your snarcasm :)
> On May 6, 2016 10:30 PM, "Allan Fish" <afi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>> :-)
>>
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>> On 5/6/16 10:17 PM, Phxflytyer wrote:
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>> I do.
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

Oh . . . your snarcasm :)
On May 6, 2016 10:30 PM, "Allan Fish"  wrote:

> :-)
>
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> On 5/6/16 10:17 PM, Phxflytyer wrote:
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> I do.
>
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> Sent from my iPad
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> Thank You,
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> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
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> I really doubt that anyone cherishes my snarky remarks.  ;-)
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[VFB] Speaking of Vises

[Jack Harford]

I find myself preferring a conventional vise over the full rotary types
mostly because of the awkward positioning of the hand when attaching
materials.  Currently I have a Anvil Apex that can do just about everything
I want from size 24 to 1/0 worm hooks.  However, I have had thoughts of
upgrading to a HMH or Dyna King conventional vise. Does anyone in this
group have suggestions or experiences with these vises or similar ones? Has
anyone used one of the A K Best vises?

Looking forward to feedback.

Tight lines,
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

Are you heading out for some bluegills?

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> "The angling fever is a very real disease and can only be cured by the
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> Theodore "Gordon"The Fisherman's Guide to Life"
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> Rick
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> PS  could be warm water where I will be today.
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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What are the qualifications to be "well govern'd" ???

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Re: [VFB] update

[Jack Harford]

Good - in the long run this may be a good thing. Glad the Dr.s could
discover it and get you on to a better solution!! Take care and Good luck!!


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> Me either!
>
> Recovery  won't back as bad this t8me, can already sign my name and move
> arm while in a splint.  Not sure what to expect,  but should be faster and
> easier than last time
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> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> Well, not real good situation,  infection was all the way to my insert and
> doc had to remove it. Looks like  I'll be starting over again.
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RE: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

Hi J

I play at guitar. Mostly a Strummer. What kind music? Just three guitars at
this time. Not nearly as big as the fly rod collection :)

Jack
On Apr 26, 2016 10:52 AM, "J Balmer" <jbal...@betadigm.com> wrote:

I’m also a guitar player, so I have two expensive collections of stuff…



J



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Perhaps understating the obvious :D



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"Fly fishers, perhaps more than most other sportsmen, are notorious for our
accumulation of tackle, fly-tying materials, and related odds and ends."



"If Fish Could Scream" John Schullery



Rick

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

Perhaps understating the obvious :D

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Re: [VFB] Thread Colors

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I started this year thinking what it would be like to tie for a year with
only three of each type of fly tying material - - - - like 3 chenille, 3
marabou, three colors thread, 3 beads, etc.

Then, I got the impulse to tie hairwing salmon flies and completely put
those nasty thoughts in the trashcan. :D

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> Black, black, black, black, olive and red.
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> On 25 Apr 2016, at 18:57, Michael Drew  wrote:
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Re: [VFB] Thread Colors

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I tie about 90% of my flies with red or black. Red adds a little hot spot
of gill look. If I had 4 more to choose I'd go with chartreuse, white, tan,
and olive.

tight lines!!

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Re: [VFB] Surgery

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good luck Wayne - sending a little prayer in your direction.

Tight lines,
Jack

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> Hi All;
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> May be a while before I start tying again. I have drainage from my elbow
> surgery in October that worked its way out of my elbow about a month ago
> and won't stop. Doctor is going to open it up this afternoon and see what's
> up. Hopefully it's something minor and all signs point to that but, must be
> prepared for serious infection or my body rejecting my implant.
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> Will know when I wake up later today.
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Re: [VFB] RE:Mustad 3366. Hooks

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Hi fellow fly tyers.

I picked up 100 12s from Golden Rule at Sowbug ($6) and they had most sizes
larger than that.

www.*goldenruleflyshop*.com/

Tight Lines,
Jack

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> I've always found sizes 10 & 12 regularly go in and out of stock , size 14
> is real hard to find.
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> Wayne
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> * Subject: * Re: [VFB] RE:Mustad 3366. Hooks
> * Sent: * Thu, Apr 21, 2016 1:17:47 AM
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> Thanks for the find Wayne.
>
> The larger sizes are pretty universally sold but the smaller sizes aren't
> carried by certain many dealers.
> af
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> Hi Allan;
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> At SOWBUG. I remember talking to you about mustard 3366 hooks being hard
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

My Motto: Fish While You Can!!


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Re: [VFB] Tony -

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Hi Tony! happy happy birthday!! Have a Fantastic Year. May you be blessed
with tight lines and bent rods.

See you in a couple of weeks,
Jack

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> You're getting better and better each year!
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Re: [VFB] Sow Bug

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14-16 April

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> The second weekend in April, will look up the dates and post it.
> Tony
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> On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 11:27 AM, Phxflytyer  wrote:
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> Tony
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> What are the dates for the Sowbug?
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> Sent from my iPad
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> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
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> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
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> Check out Wildcat Shoals Resort.. It is a Mom and Pop resort. Small, clean
> and reasonable. It fills up quite fast. Right on the river 1/2 mile from my
> house.
> 870  453 2321 http://www.wildcatshoals.come/ E mail wild...@flippinweb.com
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> On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 10:30 AM, J Balmer  wrote:
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> Looks like I'm actually gonna make it to Sow Bug this year, any
> suggestions for lodging? I have a tent if that makes more sense.
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[VFB] Fishing at Sowbug

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I was thinking about booking a half day trip one afternoon with Larry Babin
(Hogs on the Fly) during Sowbug and was wondering if anyone of the VFB
group would be interested in splitting the trip with me. Cost is $300 for a
half day for two anglers. I am scheduled to tie in the mornings so
afternoon/evening works better for me. Let me know if you are interested.

Tight lines,
Jack Harford
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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Nice Quote!!!

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> the wealth of age comes in having past reality to reflect upon instead of
> future uncertainty to dream about. It lies in knowing firsthand instead of
> relying on the word of someone else to make decisions.  I comes from having
> done most of the things you really wanted to do at least once knowing those
> you enjoy most and want to do again and again. It lies in wisdom, which can
> only come from experience.  Knowledge is something youth may have as well
> as old-timers.  Wisdom comes from testing mere knowledge and being able to
> use it effectively."
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Re: [VFB] Beautiful BC Canada

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Nice. Need to put that on my bucket list :)
On Jan 3, 2016 2:29 PM, "Neville Gosling"  wrote:

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

so much for all those new UV materials for those of us that mostly fish
warmwater species :)


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> "... current research which tells us that many of the fish we pursue -
> bass, walleyes, sauger, pike, muskies, catfish, stripers, crappies and a
> variety of sunfish species - do not see UV light because they don't have UV
> receptors in their eyes.  Species such as trout, salmon, and goldfish do
> have UV receptors."
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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How can you tell an angler is romanticizing???

Their lips are moving :)



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[VFB] Need some Advise on Reel Seat and fighting Butt

[Jack Harford]

Virtual Fly Box Collaborators,

I know we have some expert rod builders out there, but I am not one of
them. The 7wt BlueHalo fiberglass blank has a .569 diameter butt which some
say will limit the choices for reel seats. I was thinking about a plain -
sturdy aluminum saltwater type reel seat. Not sure how to size the fighting
butt for the reel seat. Is there any difference in function between an
inletted cork and one that is not??

Thanks for your insights,
Jack

p.s. would anyone out there have the items on hand and be wanting to sell
them?

(bluehalostore.com has the blank)

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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I think I am coming down with a case of that fever. Better tell my boss I
need the afternoon off to take curative measures :)

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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Yes - I have had many "not fish" . . .

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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Amen!!
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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A new study finds feeling like you're an expert can make you closed-minded
http://digest.bps.org.uk/2015/10/feeling-like-youre-expert-can-make-you.html
On Nov 26, 2015 4:59 PM, "Fish Allan"  wrote:

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> > Allan, was your life in danger when you tied on that #12 caddis while on
> midge waters?
>
> Don,
>
> Not till after I caught it.  One guy had been casting to it for about 20
> minutes.  I hooked it on my first cast.  
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Re: [VFB] Red Fish swap.

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Yes flyswappers . . thanks for the nice flies!!
On Nov 18, 2015 8:45 PM, "Phxflytyer"  wrote:

> Thanks to all for a great bunch of flies.
>
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> Sent from my iPad
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> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
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> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
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Re: [VFB] RE: anyone ever injure their tying arm?

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Hi Wayne,

Depending on how badly you need a fly tying fix, you might check out the
"Evergreen Hand" Here is a link to a short video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKySN1E-vyQ

There are longer videos and other online articles on this invention that
allows one handed fly tying. One of our club members, Steve Burkett, made
improvements to the original creation and it is used by one of the veterans
in out local Project Healing Waters group. I have tied a few flies with it
and it is a challenge, but quite rewarding when a finished fly is produced.
Or course, trying to do this with your non-dominant hand would be even more
challenging.

Good luck and heal quickly,
Jack

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> Hi All;
>
> I shattered my right elbow October 8th, reconstructive surgery which
> entailed replacing one side of the joint with the other side screwed
> together occurred October 13th.
>
> My question is has anyone on the list suffered a similar injury to their
> tying arm, and how long before you were able to tie again?
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> Thanks in advance;
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> Wayneb
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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And sometimes the fish are just not eating until 4 hours after one starts
fishing . . . especially when the end of that 4 hours happens to be about
an hour before dusk ;)

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> the fish, then catch the limit in the next hour."
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> Ed Todtenbier   "The Fisherman's Guide to Life"
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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Is that just a nice rationalization for becoming a Gear and Gadget Addict.

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

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Al . . . I really want to simplify . . . but it just ain't working 

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> Well put, Jack.  And, as you know, I'm still in the complexity phase when
> it comes to fly tying.
>
> Do I REALLY need one more pair of scissors?  Of course!  I've only got 8
> pairs on my bench at this moment.  
>
> af
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> On 11/9/15 11:58 AM, Jack Harford wrote:
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> Is that just a nice rationalization for becoming a Gear and Gadget Addict.
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Re: [VFB] A few more flies

[Jack Harford]

Hi Peggy

The recipe is something like this.

Large gape hook these were Mustad 3366 #4 and Allen Stinger #8 (similar to
Tiemco)
Two or four hackle feathers for tail. I usually tie them in facing each
other - knife style
Under body - small bead, I use a Glass bead from michaels, I think #6
Place bead on hook, secure it 1/8 to 1/4 inch behind the eye.
Take thread to over the hook point and tie in tail.
Cut a pencil's worth or more deer hair, comb and stack
Attach deer hair behind the bead by butts with hair pointing forward
Move thread in front of bead, pull hair forward and tie down in front of
bead. Move thread back behind the bead
Now using a tube, straw, or pencil push hair back over the bead again and
secure with several turns of thread
Coat head and thread with Hard as Nails, pliobond or similar product.

Al - correct me if I missed something.

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> Recipe?  I rather like those for spring.
>
>
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>> On 11/5/15 8:38 PM, Jack Harford wrote:
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>>>
>>> Maybe a little little closer to Drake's Wounded Minnow.
>>>
>>> You got it!
>>
>> Al
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Jack Harford]

Hi Rick

I looking for a quote, I think is was AK Best that goes something like "you
really don't know how to tie a fly until you've tied a hundred dozen of
them"  Have you seen this quote??

tight lines,
Jack

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[VFB] Toastmasters Mini Lathe

[Jack Harford]

Has anyone heard of a Toastmasters Mini Lathe or know if it would be
sufficient to turn cork handles?

Tight lines,
Jack

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