RE: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
Tony and Don: I have non diabetic nerve pain in my legs and feet and it hurt so bad it’s as Tony said it would make a grown man ry. The pain management doc I was seeing put me on Lyrica and it helped for a cpl yrs to a point. Then, I started seeing the family doc I see now in 2013 and he didn’t like Lyrica as he said it had too many side effects (and the Lyrica had stopped helping me anyway) with other meds I was taking, so he asked me if I’d ever taken Neurontin and I told him “yrs ago, but it did no good, but I’m in such pain I’ll give it a whirl again. I tried it and walla, just like a magic bullet, it stopped my leg and foot pain in it’s track within about three days. They say your body changed every seven yrs or so, so I guess maybe that’s why it didn’t work at all some 20-25 yrs ago, but works like a charm now. The Neurontin that is. So anyway, it might be worth asking your respective docs about trying it. Sometimes med that have been around 50 yrs work better than the newer ones I guess. Good luck and prayer to you both either way. Chuck From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:32 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15 Don, I sympathize with you on the pain. I have what they call Phantom Pain.. Even though the foot and leg is gone the pain is still there. At times the pain can go on for hours, it is enough to make a full grown man cry.. I have also developed the shakes. I had planned to tie at one session at the Sowbug Show in two weeks but I am have to drop out on it. Had 10 days in the hospital, got out Sunday, still not having good days. I think they have me on too many meds. Speaking of Sowbug, show will have over 150 tiers over the three day show. 165 are signed up. Tony On Friday, March 15, 2019, 5:02:12 PM CDT, DonO mailto:f...@tribcsp.com> > wrote: Hi Gary and all swappers, I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome or “post-stroke central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome. Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be my life. I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way. So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of flies, plus tie my set. I’ll give an update after my first flies. I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. Cheers, DonO Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? Don, actually I just want to be sure you are OK. Gary -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mail
Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
So sorry to hear of your pains, both of you. Life can be a bummer at times. I feel your pain and worry for both of you. Joyce On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 9:41 AM 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail < vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Thanks Gary really wold like to have you make it but family comes first. > Tony > > > > On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 10:20:34 AM CDT, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail < > vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > Take care of yourself first Don. > > Rick > > > -- > *From:* J Balmer > *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:40 AM > *Subject:* RE: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15 > > My flies have been done for a week, they’re going out this weekend. > > J > > *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *On Behalf > Of *Ron Boutin > *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2019 8:26 PM > *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15 > > Don, good to hear that you are doing somewhat better. The nerve pain you > are dealing with can be very difficult. Don’t worry about the swap, just > take care of yourself. > > Ron > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 15, 2019, at 5:02 PM, DonO wrote: > > Hi Gary and all swappers, > > I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that > my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome or “post-stroke > central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome. > > Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the > pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. > > So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be > my life. > > I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of > commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues > are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though > it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way. > > So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of > flies, plus tie my set. > > I’ll give an update after my first flies. > > I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. > > If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the > pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. > > Cheers, DonO > > > *Subject:* [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? > > Don, actually I just want to be sure you are OK. > > Gary > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- >
Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
Thanks Gary really wold like to have you make it but family comes first.Tony On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 10:20:34 AM CDT, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote: Take care of yourself first Don. Rick From: J Balmer To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:40 AM Subject: RE: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15 #yiv4781433849 -- filtered {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}#yiv4781433849 filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv4781433849 p.yiv4781433849MsoNormal, #yiv4781433849 li.yiv4781433849MsoNormal, #yiv4781433849 div.yiv4781433849MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv4781433849 a:link, #yiv4781433849 span.yiv4781433849MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4781433849 a:visited, #yiv4781433849 span.yiv4781433849MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4781433849 p.yiv4781433849msonormal0, #yiv4781433849 li.yiv4781433849msonormal0, #yiv4781433849 div.yiv4781433849msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv4781433849 span.yiv4781433849EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv4781433849 .yiv4781433849MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv4781433849 filtered {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv4781433849 div.yiv4781433849WordSection1 {}#yiv4781433849 My flies have been done for a week, they’re going out this weekend. J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Ron Boutin Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:26 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15 Don, good to hear that you are doing somewhat better. The nerve pain you are dealing with can be very difficult. Don’t worry about the swap, just take care of yourself. RonSent from my iPad On Mar 15, 2019, at 5:02 PM, DonO wrote: Hi Gary and all swappers, I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome or “post-stroke central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome. Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be my life. I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way. So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of flies, plus tie my set. I’ll give an update after my first flies. I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. Cheers, DonO Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? Don, actually I just want to be sure you are OK. Gary-- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.-- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe f
Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
Take care of yourself first Don. Rick From: J Balmer To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:40 AM Subject: RE: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15 #yiv3375194533 #yiv3375194533 -- _filtered #yiv3375194533 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3375194533 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv3375194533 #yiv3375194533 p.yiv3375194533MsoNormal, #yiv3375194533 li.yiv3375194533MsoNormal, #yiv3375194533 div.yiv3375194533MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv3375194533 a:link, #yiv3375194533 span.yiv3375194533MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3375194533 a:visited, #yiv3375194533 span.yiv3375194533MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3375194533 p.yiv3375194533msonormal0, #yiv3375194533 li.yiv3375194533msonormal0, #yiv3375194533 div.yiv3375194533msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv3375194533 span.yiv3375194533EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv3375194533 .yiv3375194533MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv3375194533 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv3375194533 div.yiv3375194533WordSection1 {}#yiv3375194533 My flies have been done for a week, they’re going out this weekend. J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Ron Boutin Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:26 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15 Don, good to hear that you are doing somewhat better. The nerve pain you are dealing with can be very difficult. Don’t worry about the swap, just take care of yourself. RonSent from my iPad On Mar 15, 2019, at 5:02 PM, DonO wrote: Hi Gary and all swappers, I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome or “post-stroke central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome. Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be my life. I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way. So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of flies, plus tie my set. I’ll give an update after my first flies. I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. Cheers, DonO Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? Don, actually I just want to be sure you are OK. Gary-- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.-- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://g
RE: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
My flies have been done for a week, they’re going out this weekend. J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Ron Boutin Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:26 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15 Don, good to hear that you are doing somewhat better. The nerve pain you are dealing with can be very difficult. Don’t worry about the swap, just take care of yourself. Ron Sent from my iPad On Mar 15, 2019, at 5:02 PM, DonO mailto:f...@tribcsp.com> > wrote: Hi Gary and all swappers, I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome or “post-stroke central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome. Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be my life. I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way. So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of flies, plus tie my set. I’ll give an update after my first flies. I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. Cheers, DonO Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? Don, actually I just want to be sure you are OK. Gary -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
Don, good to hear that you are doing somewhat better. The nerve pain you are dealing with can be very difficult. Don’t worry about the swap, just take care of yourself. Ron Sent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2019, at 5:02 PM, DonO wrote: > > Hi Gary and all swappers, > > I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that my > debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome or “post-stroke central > pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome. > > Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the > pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. > > So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be my > life. > > I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of commission. > I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues are out of hand. > The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though it can do some > things. It also effects my right leg that way. > > So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of flies, > plus tie my set. > > I’ll give an update after my first flies. > > I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. > > If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the > pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. > > Cheers, DonO > > > Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? > > Don, actually I just want to be sure you are OK. > > Gary > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
Hi Tony: Both you and Don have both had a really tough time and I feel for both of you. I am glad that you have overcome pneumonia because that is much more serious than most people think. Get plenty of rest, try to keep moving as best you can and eat carefully. Best wishes. Neville (Nev) Gosling On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 4:19 AM Neville Gosling wrote: > Hi DonO; > > Sorry to learn that you are still in a lot of pain. As far as I am > concerned you can take as much time as you like to sort the flies > especially as it may cause you pain - for me there is no hurry whatsoever. > > Nevile (Nev) Gosling > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:59 PM Gary Webb wrote: > >> Don, Tony >> >> I'm so happy to hear from you both. But so sorry to hear of your pains. >> You are in my/our prayers. >> Wish I could go to The Sow Bug again. But Susan my wife has a lot of >> constant pain herself. Too long a ride >> from Wisconsin to Arkansas. >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:02 PM DonO wrote: >> >>> Hi Gary and all swappers, >>> >>> I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently >>> that my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome or >>> “post-stroke central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain >>> syndrome. >>> >>> Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with >>> the pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. >>> >>> So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to >>> be my life. >>> >>> I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of >>> commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues >>> are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though >>> it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way. >>> >>> So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of >>> flies, plus tie my set. >>> >>> I’ll give an update after my first flies. >>> >>> I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. >>> >>> If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the >>> pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. >>> >>> Cheers, DonO >>> >>> >>> *Subject:* [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? >>> >>> Don, actually I just want to be sure you are OK. >>> >>> Gary >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >>> group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >>> >>> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VFB Mail" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >>> group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >>> >>> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VFB Mail" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VFB Mail" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > Neville Gosling > -- Neville Gosling -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group
Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
Hi DonO; Sorry to learn that you are still in a lot of pain. As far as I am concerned you can take as much time as you like to sort the flies especially as it may cause you pain - for me there is no hurry whatsoever. Nevile (Nev) Gosling On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:59 PM Gary Webb wrote: > Don, Tony > > I'm so happy to hear from you both. But so sorry to hear of your pains. > You are in my/our prayers. > Wish I could go to The Sow Bug again. But Susan my wife has a lot of > constant pain herself. Too long a ride > from Wisconsin to Arkansas. > > Gary > > > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:02 PM DonO wrote: > >> Hi Gary and all swappers, >> >> I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that >> my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome or “post-stroke >> central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome. >> >> Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with >> the pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. >> >> So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to >> be my life. >> >> I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of >> commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues >> are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though >> it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way. >> >> So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of >> flies, plus tie my set. >> >> I’ll give an update after my first flies. >> >> I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. >> >> If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the >> pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. >> >> Cheers, DonO >> >> >> *Subject:* [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? >> >> Don, actually I just want to be sure you are OK. >> >> Gary >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VFB Mail" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VFB Mail" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Neville Gosling -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
Don, Tony I'm so happy to hear from you both. But so sorry to hear of your pains. You are in my/our prayers. Wish I could go to The Sow Bug again. But Susan my wife has a lot of constant pain herself. Too long a ride from Wisconsin to Arkansas. Gary On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:02 PM DonO wrote: > Hi Gary and all swappers, > > I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that > my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome or “post-stroke > central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome. > > Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the > pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. > > So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be > my life. > > I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of > commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues > are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though > it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way. > > So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of > flies, plus tie my set. > > I’ll give an update after my first flies. > > I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. > > If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the > pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. > > Cheers, DonO > > > *Subject:* [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? > > Don, actually I just want to be sure you are OK. > > Gary > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
Don, I sympathize with you on the pain. I have what they call Phantom Pain.. Even though the foot and leg is gone the pain is still there. At times the pain can go on for hours, it is enough to make a full grown man cry.. I have also developed the shakes. I had planned to tie at one session at the Sowbug Show in two weeks but I am have to drop out on it.Had 10 days in the hospital, got out Sunday, still not having good days. I think they have me on too many meds.Speaking of Sowbug, show will have over 150 tiers over the three day show. 165 are signed up. Tony On Friday, March 15, 2019, 5:02:12 PM CDT, DonO wrote: Hi Gary and all swappers, I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome or “post-stroke central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome. Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be my life. I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way. So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of flies, plus tie my set. I’ll give an update after my first flies. I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. Cheers, DonO Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? Don, actually I just want to be sure you are OK. Gary-- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15
Hi Gary and all swappers, I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome or “post-stroke central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome. Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible. So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be my life. I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way. So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of flies, plus tie my set. I’ll give an update after my first flies. I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive. If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the pain, I have a fall-back plan or two. Cheers, DonO Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update? Don, actually I just want to be sure you are OK. Gary -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.