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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-09-17 Thread Ron Boutin

I ditto that for sure !!

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Neville Gosling  wrote:
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> Amen to that!
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>> 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail September 16, 2016 at 08:17
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-09-16 Thread Neville Gosling



Amen to that!

Neville (Nev) Gosling
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Canada

'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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"When you arise in the morning, think of what a  precious privilege it 
is to be alive - to breathe, to think,  to enjoy, to 
love."   '

- Marcus Aurelius
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-09-16 Thread Allan Fish


On 9/16/16 11:17 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it 
is to be alive - to breathe, to think,  to enjoy, to 
love."   '

- Marcus Aurelius

Ol' Marc knew whereof he spaketh!

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-09-14 Thread Allan Fish


On 9/14/16 9:30 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
"To learn is a natural pleasured not confined to philosophers, but 
common to all men."


Aristotle "The Fisherman's Guide to Life"


"And may I always keep learning."
Allan Fish

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-31 Thread Neville Gosling

 Yep! I'm a hat'aholic when fish'n. My fave for summer is an Aussie Outback
style hat which is currently well worn.

'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
August 31, 2016 at 05:56
"The tradition of hats on fishermen is so deeply ingrained that it's almost
a breach of decorum to fish with a naked scalp.  And there are practical
reason for this tradition. " shade and keeping rain off.

Gerald Almy"Tying and Fishing Terrestrials"

Rick
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-31 Thread Neville Gosling

Yep! I'm a hat'aholic when fish'n. My fave for summer is an Aussie 
Outback style hat which is currently well worn.




'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
August 31, 2016 at 05:56
"The tradition of hats on fishermen is so deeply ingrained that it's 
almost a breach of decorum to fish with a naked scalp.  And there are 
practical reason for this tradition. " shade and keeping rain off.


Gerald Almy"Tying and Fishing Terrestrials"

Rick



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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-31 Thread Phxflytyer

And I have the scrapes to prove it.


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
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Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



> On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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>> On 8/31/16 8:56 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
>> "The tradition of hats on fishermen is so deeply ingrained that it's almost 
>> a breach of decorum to fish with a naked scalp.  And there are practical 
>> reason for this tradition. " shade and keeping rain off.
> 
> AND keeping hooks out of ears if you wear a broad-brimmed hat.  :-)
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-31 Thread Allan Fish


On 8/31/16 8:56 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
"The tradition of hats on fishermen is so deeply ingrained that it's 
almost a breach of decorum to fish with a naked scalp.  And there are 
practical reason for this tradition. " shade and keeping rain off.




AND keeping hooks out of ears if you wear a broad-brimmed hat. :-)

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-30 Thread Neville Gosling

Alas Rick. No she didn't and that's probably why I have been singlefor 
22 years. 

*


'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:

Does your wife agree?

Rick



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Finally! At last all my purchases of multiple rods, multiple fly 
reels, lines, vises, leaders, multiple fly boxes and feathers & fluff 
are recognized and justified but no one believed me.


Neville (Nev) Gosling

'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
August 30, 2016 at 07:18
"The serious fisherman understands that success on the water begins 
long before the first cast.  Success begins with the acquisition and 
organization of a well-stocked tackle box.  The fisherman who wishes 
to improve his catch must first improve his tools.  In fishing, as in 
life, preparation is the better part of luck."


"The Fisherman's Guide to Life"

Rick


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August 30, 2016 at 08:57
Does your wife agree?

Rick



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Finally! At last all my purchases of multiple rods, multiple fly 
reels, lines, vises, leaders, multiple fly boxes and feathers & fluff 
are recognized and justified but no one believed me.


Neville (Nev) Gosling

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-30 Thread 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail

Does your wife agree?
Rick

  From: Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@gmail.com>
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:50 AM
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Finally! At last all my purchases of multiple rods, multiple fly reels, lines, 
vises, leaders, multiple fly boxes and feathers & fluff are recognized and 
justified but no one believed me. 

Neville (Nev) Gosling

  'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail  August 30, 2016 at 07:18  "The serious fisherman 
understands that success on the water begins long before the first cast.  
Success begins with the acquisition and organization of a well-stocked tackle 
box.  The fisherman who wishes to improve his catch must first improve his 
tools.  In fishing, as in life, preparation is the better part of luck."  
"The Fisherman's Guide to Life"
Rick 

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-30 Thread Neville Gosling

Finally! At last all my purchases of multiple rods, multiple fly reels, 
lines, vises, leaders, multiple fly boxes and feathers & fluff are 
recognized and justified but no one believed me.


Neville (Nev) Gosling

'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
August 30, 2016 at 07:18
"The serious fisherman understands that success on the water begins 
long before the first cast.  Success begins with the acquisition and 
organization of a well-stocked tackle box.  The fisherman who wishes 
to improve his catch must first improve his tools.  In fishing, as in 
life, preparation is the better part of luck."


"The Fisherman's Guide to Life"

Rick


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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-30 Thread Jack Harford

Usually it is not the number of flies, but a few of the right ones that
matters ;)

On Aug 30, 2016 11:42 AM, "Allan Fish"  wrote:

> On 8/30/16 10:18 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
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>> Success begins with the acquisition and organization of a well-stocked
>> tackle box.
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> Would that describe my pocket box full of flies?
>
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-30 Thread Allan Fish


On 8/30/16 10:18 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
Success begins with the acquisition and organization of a well-stocked 
tackle box.

Would that describe my pocket box full of flies?

af

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-27 Thread Neville Gosling

 Hi Rick:

I am laughing like a drain in pouring rain! I was searching Google for "4h
in relation to hook size" and all I found was "*4*-*H* Canada is a
not-for-profit organization that is focused on strong leadership for
world-class positive youth development experiences in Canada."

Therer was however a mention of 4H which

Neville (Nev) Gosling

'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
August 27, 2016 at 08:34
Should be "the"  can't type or proofread.
Sorry.

Rick


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I have no idea of what he is talking about. what is 4h ??

Neville Gosling

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-27 Thread Neville Gosling

Oh Allan, don't be so cruel...I'm laughing in my coffee and 
nearly choking ..Nev



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Know any good optometrists?
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-27 Thread Allan Fish


On 8/27/16 11:34 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:

Should be "the" can't type or proofread.
Sorry.

Know any good optometrists?

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-27 Thread Neville Gosling


Hi Rick:

I am laughing like a drain in pouring rain! I was searching Google for 
"4h in relation to hook size" and all I found was "/4/-/H/ Canada is a 
not-for-profit organization that is focused on strong leadership for 
world-class positive youth development experiences in Canada."


There was however a mention of 4H group which I didn't study but seems 
to be a group teaching fly tying to youths.


Neville (Nev) Gosling


'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
August 27, 2016 at 08:34
Should be "the"  can't type or proofread.
Sorry.

Rick



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I have no idea of what he is talking about. what is 4h ??

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-27 Thread Allan Fish


On 8/27/16 11:27 AM, Neville Gosling wrote:

I have no idea of what he is talking about. what is 4h ??

Neville Gosling


It's Z-code for "the".

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-27 Thread 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail

Should be "the"  can't type or proofread.Sorry.
Rick 

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I have no idea of what he is talking about. what is 4h ??

Neville Gosling

  'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail  August 27, 2016 at 07:35  "In all honesty, the 
best way to get over any uncertainty about 4h relation of fly size to hook size 
simple is to study different kinds of flies tied in different sizes."
Chuck & Sharon Tryon   "Figuring Out Flies"
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-27 Thread Neville Gosling


I have no idea of what he is talking about. what is 4h ??

Neville Gosling

'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
August 27, 2016 at 07:35
"In all honesty, the best way to get over any uncertainty about 4h 
relation of fly size to hook size simple is to study different kinds 
of flies tied in different sizes."


Chuck & Sharon Tryon   "Figuring Out Flies"

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-24 Thread Allan Fish


On 8/24/16 10:31 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:

"The best time to go fishing? Whenever you can."

And you can add to that, "Wherever you can."

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RE: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-12 Thread J Balmer

I agree...

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-12 Thread Allan Fish


On 8/12/16 12:01 PM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
"Of all the world's enjoyments , That ever were. There's none of our 
employments with fishing can compare."
Well, I've got many things I consider enjoyments.  And fishing is right 
up there.


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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-08-12 Thread Allan Fish




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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-30 Thread jbalmer

or, how it out fishes other flies:0

>  "One of the most dependable marks of any well-tied fly is how neatly the
> head is finished."
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-25 Thread rayado

Rick please send Tony a copy of your email address  for my vfb files, I misplaced mine and need his for my address book.Don'which I don't have-Original Message-
From: 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
Sent: May 24, 2016 8:37 AM
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD

"Clearly, kneeling and crouching along a trout stream are not pleasurable undertakings.  ...  But they are very effective ways to catch fish - sometimes the only way."George Almy  "Tying and Fishing Terrestrials"Rick



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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-25 Thread Allan Fish


On 7/25/16 9:07 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
"Denise had become aware of the gestalt common to most experienced 
fly-fishermen that catching fish isn't necessary to declare a fishing 
day a success  The process is more important than the results."




If the above were not true, I would have probably quit fishing many 
years ago. :-P


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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-21 Thread Phxflytyer

Jimmy;

I sent you a message but I recd an email from your server telling that the mail 
was undeliverable because of a lack of use?

If you rec this one please let me know?

Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, AZ.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



> On Jul 21, 2016, at 6:20 AM, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:
> 
> You bet! Loud and clear.
>  
> From: ray...@earthlink.net
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> Don,  MAKING IT NOW?
> 
>  
> 
> jim
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Don Ordes 
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> 
> Not Rick here, but you made it to Idaho, too. 
>  
> (And that still sounds strange to me after over 2 years.)
>  
> WELCOME BACK!  MISSED YOU!!!
>  
> Hope you are feeling much better!
>  
> DonO
>  
>  
>  
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> Rick trying to get thru to you.
> 
> Jim
> 
> -Original Message- 
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> 
> "For starters, you should know that a lot of what you're about to read isn't 
> necessarily very important.  Don't be upset - a lot of what other fly-fishing 
> writer say isn't necessarily very important, either.
> Why?   One of the most marvelous attraction to the fly-fishing sport is that 
> you can take it just a casually or fanatically as your heart desires.  What 
> is important is or you to decide, not for others to dictate."
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-21 Thread Don Ordes

You bet! Loud and clear.

From: ray...@earthlink.net 
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Subject: Re: [VFB] QFTD

Don,  MAKING IT NOW?



jim



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  Not Rick here, but you made it to Idaho, too.  

  (And that still sounds strange to me after over 2 years.)

  WELCOME BACK!  MISSED YOU!!!

  Hope you are feeling much better!

  DonO



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  Rick trying to get thru to you. 

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-20 Thread Phxflytyer

I got you here in Phoenix


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
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Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-20 Thread rayado

Don,  MAKING IT NOW?
 
jim
-Original Message- From: Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>Sent: Jul 20, 2016 10:32 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] QFTD 




Not Rick here, but you made it to Idaho, too.  
 
(And that still sounds strange to me after over 2 years.)
 
WELCOME BACK!  MISSED YOU!!!
 
Hope you are feeling much better!
 
DonO
 
 


 

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Rick trying to get thru to you. 
Jim
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-20 Thread rayado

thanks  Good to be back
 
JIM
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Not Rick here, but you made it to Idaho, too.  
 
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-20 Thread Don Ordes

Not Rick here, but you made it to Idaho, too.  

(And that still sounds strange to me after over 2 years.)

WELCOME BACK!  MISSED YOU!!!

Hope you are feeling much better!

DonO



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Rick trying to get thru to you. 

Jim


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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-19 Thread Allan Fish


On 7/19/16 8:01 PM, ray...@earthlink.net wrote:


Rick trying to get thru to you.


HURRAY - Earthlink is alive again!

Welcome back, Jim.

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-19 Thread Neville Gosling


Well, you overshot and made it all the way to Vancouver, BC.

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-07-19 Thread rayado

Rick trying to get thru to you. 
Jim
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"For starters, you should know that a lot of what you're about to read isn't necessarily very important.  Don't be upset - a lot of what other fly-fishing writer say isn't necessarily very important, either.
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-23 Thread Don Ordes

Pete,
Please contact me off VFB. My email to you is not working.
Thanks,
DonO

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The same is true for us terrestrial bipeds... body shape thus becomes the 
fundamental concern.,.. Me?  so much there, I'm of the high float variety.  

Runnin' and duckin' for the nine tenths of a strike...
-Pete

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  Realistically presented, duplication of the body form represents nine-tenths 
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2016-06-22 Thread 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail

I am the opposite.  Heavy bones so I don't gloat.
Rick 

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Runnin' and duckin' for the nine tenths of a strike...-Pete
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-22 Thread Pete Gramp

The same is true for us terrestrial bipeds... body shape thus becomes the
fundamental concern.,.. Me?  so much there, I'm of the high float variety.

Runnin' and duckin' for the nine tenths of a strike...
-Pete

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> "Body shape thus becomes the fundamental concern of all terrestrial
> patterns- high floater and low floaters a like.   
> Realistically presented, duplication of the body form represents
> nine-tenths of a strike."
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> Gerald Almy"Tying & Fishing Terrestrials"
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> Rick
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RE: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-21 Thread J Balmer

“Or, they’re used to catch fish…”

 

The Mad Wop

 

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Subject: [VFB] QFTD

 

"Many of the world's best flies never make it into fly shop display cases or 
mail-order catalogues.  Why?  Because they're too time-consuming to tie."

 

Chuck & Sharon Tryon   "Figuring Out Flies"

 

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Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option?

2016-06-18 Thread Allan Fish


On 6/18/16 1:20 PM, ladyflytyer wrote:
they want all tiers to pay for space and the returns just aren't there 
for the exhibitors. 

What a crock of bull!

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Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option?

2016-06-18 Thread ladyflytyer



Good retirement plan!
I am applying for a grant for next year to work with a apprentice again. The 
amount the state pays for the 75 hours of instruction is well worth it. Am 
changing my focus away from the fly fusing shows, they want all tiers to pay 
for space and the returns just aren't there for the exhibitors.  There are 
lot's of other venues for someone to semi fund their small business so it will 
cover expenses for a few years then I'll stick to just doing workshops, they 
are fun and get us around the country.  
Then we get to stay home and age out going to a couple of events a year, like 
Sowbug
Peggy
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S

 Original message 
From: Jack Lehman <jklepo...@sbcglobal.net> 
Date: 06/17/2016  7:55 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option? 


All for it Doneaux, and happy birthday

  

  Jack Lehman

  

  On 6/15/2016 8:41 AM, Don Ordes wrote:



  

  Fly tying can be a couple of nights a month to stock up
on depleted favorite patterns, or a full-blown multi-faceted
hobby, hobby-business, part-time business, or retirement
business. 
   
  If you include the satellite activities besides fishing,
which include getting together with other tiers, attending
fly shows (or tying at them), researching, publishing books
or videos, mentoring, and of course vfb-ing, there's a lot
to keep it diverse and interesting. When it gets boring,
just add a new venue to the tying and challenge yourself to
kick it up a notch.  Or plan a new trip for different fish,
and tie the flies needed for that.  It should never ever get
boring, especially if you include a sense of humor or art to
the process.
   
  On materials, my challenge after this last move and
re-organization is just finding what I need amongst the
myriad of materials I've collected. But I have a plan for
next year for retardment. My 'retirement' will really just
mean swapping focus from the oil & gas business to
Fantasy Flies and videos. I intend to get a shop and turn it
into a fly-base of operations.
   
  Ahh, the video.  Rope-dub DVD#2.  Thinking of
an alternate plan- put it out for comments.
   
  Instead of a long DVD which is taking forever to film and
produce (if I can get any time), how about a
You-tube channel with themed short videos uploaded
regularly- not only on rope-dubbing (will go on forever),
but on mice (deerhair), flex-o, McFlyfoam, #32's,
salt-flies, streamers, etc.? 
   
  Big difference is it would be free to all,
which is how I handled it in the first place with Byard,
putting the RD videos on his site for anyone to see (pretty
crude at the time).  My pay would be with visits &
subscribers- from Y-T. Then also I’d still be selling the
giant Fantasy Flies, framed streamers, mice, etc. Hopefully
make for a busy yet pleasant retirement.
   
  This way I could somewhat follow the comments in
adjusting what I tie or show next and just let it evolve. Of
course, there will be my sense of humor worked in throughout
all of the videos to keep it from being all ‘dry’.
   
  And since I’m slowing way down in attending fly shows
(travelling less and less), I’ll make a ‘Baits Hotel’ video
just for giggles and grins (and to survive me).
   
  Comments? (Especially from those who have DVD #1.)
   
  DonO
   
   
   
  -Original Message- 
  From: Allan Fish 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:37 PM 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD 
   
  p.s.:
  I also like to be around other fly tyers.  You get to
meet so many neat 
  people.
   
  And the occasional scalawag like me.
   
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Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option?

2016-06-17 Thread Jack Lehman


All for it Doneaux, and happy birthday

Jack Lehman

On 6/15/2016 8:41 AM, Don Ordes wrote:
Fly tying can be a couple of nights a month to stock up on depleted 
favorite patterns, or a full-blown multi-faceted hobby, 
hobby-business, part-time business, or retirement business.
If you include the satellite activities /besides /fishing, which 
include getting together with other tiers, attending fly shows (or 
tying at them), researching, publishing books or videos, mentoring, 
and of course vfb-ing, there's a lot to keep it diverse and 
interesting. When it gets boring, just add a new venue to the tying 
and challenge yourself to kick it up a notch.  Or plan a new trip for 
different fish, and tie the flies needed for that.  It should never 
ever get boring, especially if you include a sense of humor or art to 
the process.
On materials, my challenge after this last move and re-organization is 
just finding what I need amongst the myriad of materials I've 
collected. But I have a plan for next year for retardment. My 
'retirement' will really just mean swapping focus from the oil & gas 
business to Fantasy Flies and videos. I intend to get a shop and turn 
it into a fly-base of operations.
Ahh, the /video/.  Rope-dub DVD#2.  Thinking of an alternate plan- put 
it out *for comments*.
Instead of a long DVD which is taking forever to film and produce 
(/if/ I can get any time), how about a You-tube channel with /themed/ 
short videos uploaded regularly- not only on rope-dubbing (will go on 
forever), but on mice (deerhair), flex-o, McFlyfoam, #32's, 
salt-flies, streamers, etc.?
Big difference is it would be /free/ to all, which is how I handled it 
in the first place with Byard, putting the RD videos on his site for 
anyone to see (pretty crude at the time).  My pay would be with visits 
& subscribers- from Y-T. Then also I’d still be selling the giant 
Fantasy Flies, framed streamers, mice, etc. Hopefully make for a busy 
yet pleasant retirement.
This way I could somewhat follow the comments in adjusting what I tie 
or show next and just let it evolve. Of course, there will be my sense 
of humor worked in throughout all of the videos to keep it from being 
all ‘dry’.
And since I’m slowing way down in attending fly shows (travelling less 
and less), I’ll make a ‘Baits Hotel’ video just for giggles and grins 
(and to survive me).

Comments? (Especially from those who have DVD #1.)
DonO
-Original Message-
From: Allan Fish
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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD
p.s.:
I also like to be around other fly tyers.  You get to meet so many neat
people.
And the occasional scalawag like me.
Allan
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Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option?

2016-06-15 Thread Gary Webb

I think the You Tube videos is a great idea.
A very satisfied owner of DVD # 1.  And if you finish DVD # 2  I will buy
it too.   A very small contribution to you retirement.

Gary L Webb

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:

> Fly tying can be a couple of nights a month to stock up on depleted
> favorite patterns, or a full-blown multi-faceted hobby, hobby-business,
> part-time business, or retirement business.
>
> If you include the satellite activities *besides *fishing, which include
> getting together with other tiers, attending fly shows (or tying at them),
> researching, publishing books or videos, mentoring, and of course vfb-ing,
> there's a lot to keep it diverse and interesting. When it gets boring, just
> add a new venue to the tying and challenge yourself to kick it up a notch.
> Or plan a new trip for different fish, and tie the flies needed for that.
> It should never ever get boring, especially if you include a sense of humor
> or art to the process.
>
> On materials, my challenge after this last move and re-organization is
> just finding what I need amongst the myriad of materials I've collected.
> But I have a plan for next year for retardment. My 'retirement' will really
> just mean swapping focus from the oil & gas business to Fantasy Flies and
> videos. I intend to get a shop and turn it into a fly-base of operations.
>
> Ahh, the *video*.  Rope-dub DVD#2.  Thinking of an alternate plan- put it
> out *for comments*.
>
> Instead of a long DVD which is taking forever to film and produce (*if* I
> can get any time), how about a You-tube channel with *themed* short
> videos uploaded regularly- not only on rope-dubbing (will go on forever),
> but on mice (deerhair), flex-o, McFlyfoam, #32's, salt-flies, streamers,
> etc.?
>
> Big difference is it would be *free* to all, which is how I handled it in
> the first place with Byard, putting the RD videos on his site for anyone to
> see (pretty crude at the time).  My pay would be with visits & subscribers-
> from Y-T. Then also I’d still be selling the giant Fantasy Flies, framed
> streamers, mice, etc. Hopefully make for a busy yet pleasant retirement.
>
> This way I could somewhat follow the comments in adjusting what I tie or
> show next and just let it evolve. Of course, there will be my sense of
> humor worked in throughout all of the videos to keep it from being all
> ‘dry’.
>
> And since I’m slowing way down in attending fly shows (travelling less and
> less), I’ll make a ‘Baits Hotel’ video just for giggles and grins (and to
> survive me).
>
> Comments? (Especially from those who have DVD #1.)
>
> DonO
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Allan Fish
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:37 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD
>
> p.s.:
> I also like to be around other fly tyers.  You get to meet so many neat
> people.
>
> And the occasional scalawag like me.
>
> Allan
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Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option?

2016-06-15 Thread 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail

Go for it.
Tony

On Wed, 6/15/16, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option?
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016, 8:41 AM

 Fly tying can be a couple of nights a month to stock up
 on depleted 
 favorite patterns, or a full-blown multi-faceted hobby,
 hobby-business, 
 part-time business, or retirement business. 

 If you include the satellite activities besides
 fishing, which 
 include getting together with other tiers, attending fly
 shows (or tying at 
 them), researching, publishing books or videos, mentoring,
 and of course 
 vfb-ing, there's a lot to keep it diverse and
 interesting. When it gets boring, 
 just add a new venue to the tying and challenge yourself to
 kick it up a 
 notch.  Or plan a new trip for different fish, and tie the
 flies needed for 
 that.  It should never ever get boring, especially if you
 include a sense 
 of humor or art to the process.

 On materials, my challenge after this last move and
 re-organization is just 
 finding what I need amongst the myriad of materials I've
 collected. But I have a 
 plan for next year for retardment. My 'retirement'
 will really just mean 
 swapping focus from the oil & gas business to Fantasy
 Flies and videos. I 
 intend to get a shop and turn it into a fly-base of
 operations.

 Ahh, the video.  Rope-dub DVD#2.  Thinking
 of an 
 alternate plan- put it out for
 comments.

 Instead of a long DVD which is taking forever to film
 and produce 
 (if I can get any time), how about a You-tube
 channel with 
 themed short videos uploaded regularly- not only on
 rope-dubbing (will 
 go on forever), but on mice (deerhair), flex-o, McFlyfoam,
 #32's, salt-flies, 
 streamers, etc.? 

 Big difference is it would be free to all,
 which is how I handled 
 it in the first place with Byard, putting the RD videos on
 his site for anyone 
 to see (pretty crude at the time).  My pay would be with
 visits & 
 subscribers- from Y-T. Then also I’d still be selling the
 giant Fantasy Flies, 
 framed streamers, mice, etc. Hopefully make for a busy yet
 pleasant 
 retirement.

 This way I could somewhat follow the comments in
 adjusting what I tie or 
 show next and just let it evolve. Of course, there will be
 my sense of humor 
 worked in throughout all of the videos to keep it from being
 all ‘dry’.

 And since I’m slowing way down in attending fly shows
 (travelling less and 
 less), I’ll make a ‘Baits Hotel’ video just for
 giggles and grins (and to 
 survive me).

 Comments? (Especially from those who have DVD
 #1.)

 DonO

 -Original Message-

 From: Allan Fish 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:37 PM 
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD 

 p.s.:
 I also like to be around other fly tyers.  You get to
 meet so many 
 neat 
 people.

 And the occasional scalawag like me.

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Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option?

2016-06-15 Thread Allan Fish


Don,

I remember one dark and stormy March night* in 2007 - the year that both 
you and Nick Runarsson came to the Sowbug.  We stayed at the Ramada Inn 
in Mtn. Home.  You dropped into our room and gave me a 3-minute lesson 
in rope dubbing.   I've rope-dubbed ever since!


I liked your first DVD very much and still refer to it on occasion.  Put 
me down for DVD#2 when (and if) you get a round tuit.I don't 
blame you for dreading the effort it takes to do a good job.  Your 
YouTube idea is great, but I fear it will only get you notoriety, not 
dollars.  


I'm looking forward to seeing what fantastic concoctions you can add to 
your Fantasy Flies offerings when you get back to doing that more full-time.


Don, anticipate your retirement eagerly.  It's the greatest thing 
since...(pick your own pleasures!).


Al

*p.s.:  I don't remember if it was a dark and stormy night or not.  But  
much later that evening, after you left, a party got started in the room 
over ours.  About one a.m. it was still going strong and I heard noises 
outside our door.  I looked out the window to see a young man trying 
(unsuccessfully)  to climb the decorative railing to get into the window 
above us.  About 15 minutes later as I was getting ready to call the 
front desk and complain, I heard a pounding on a door upstairs.  Very 
shortly afterwards, everything above us got quiet and stayed quiet.


The next morning as I groggily stumbled toward the restaurant for 
breakfast, I told the desk clerk I was glad they got the noise stopped 
and hoped the occupants had been kicked out  He said, "Oh no. they're 
still there."  I said, "They are?"  He replied, "Well, at least all 
their belongings are still there and we're still charging them for the 
room and adding on damage charges.  They were all underage drinkers and 
haven't been released from the Mountain Home jail yet."


Thanks for reminding me.
af



On 6/15/16 9:41 AM, Don Ordes wrote:
Fly tying can be a couple of nights a month to stock up on depleted 
favorite patterns, or a full-blown multi-faceted hobby, 
hobby-business, part-time business, or retirement business.
If you include the satellite activities /besides /fishing, which 
include getting together with other tiers, attending fly shows (or 
tying at them), researching, publishing books or videos, mentoring, 
and of course vfb-ing, there's a lot to keep it diverse and 
interesting. When it gets boring, just add a new venue to the tying 
and challenge yourself to kick it up a notch.  Or plan a new trip for 
different fish, and tie the flies needed for that.  It should never 
ever get boring, especially if you include a sense of humor or art to 
the process.
On materials, my challenge after this last move and re-organization is 
just finding what I need amongst the myriad of materials I've 
collected. But I have a plan for next year for retardment. My 
'retirement' will really just mean swapping focus from the oil & gas 
business to Fantasy Flies and videos. I intend to get a shop and turn 
it into a fly-base of operations.
Ahh, the /video/.  Rope-dub DVD#2.  Thinking of an alternate plan- put 
it out *for comments*.
Instead of a long DVD which is taking forever to film and produce 
(/if/ I can get any time), how about a You-tube channel with /themed/ 
short videos uploaded regularly- not only on rope-dubbing (will go on 
forever), but on mice (deerhair), flex-o, McFlyfoam, #32's, 
salt-flies, streamers, etc.?
Big difference is it would be /free/ to all, which is how I handled it 
in the first place with Byard, putting the RD videos on his site for 
anyone to see (pretty crude at the time).  My pay would be with visits 
& subscribers- from Y-T. Then also I’d still be selling the giant 
Fantasy Flies, framed streamers, mice, etc. Hopefully make for a busy 
yet pleasant retirement.
This way I could somewhat follow the comments in adjusting what I tie 
or show next and just let it evolve. Of course, there will be my sense 
of humor worked in throughout all of the videos to keep it from being 
all ‘dry’.
And since I’m slowing way down in attending fly shows (travelling less 
and less), I’ll make a ‘Baits Hotel’ video just for giggles and grins 
(and to survive me).

Comments? (Especially from those who have DVD #1.)
DonO
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p.s.:
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people.
And the occasional scalawag like me.
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Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option?

2016-06-15 Thread 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail

I would enjoy seeing either of the ways you do it.  You would probably gt more 
attention on You Tube.
Rick

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My now primary method is dubbing your way w/ mono. The idea of making tying 
more interactive is more than intriguing, & having individual techniques or 
flies on YouTube or some other accessible website w/ commentary would certainly 
facilitate that. I’m in regardless of how you decide to proceed.  J  From: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don 
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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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tying can be a couple of nights a month to stock up on depleted favorite 
patterns, or a full-blown multi-faceted hobby, hobby-business, part-time 
business, or retirement business.  If you include the satellite activities 
besides fishing, which include getting together with other tiers, attending fly 
shows (or tying at them), researching, publishing books or videos, mentoring, 
and of course vfb-ing, there's a lot to keep it diverse and interesting. When 
it gets boring, just add a new venue to the tying and challenge yourself to 
kick it up a notch.  Or plan a new trip for different fish, and tie the flies 
needed for that.  It should never ever get boring, especially if you include a 
sense of humor or art to the process. On materials, my challenge after this 
last move and re-organization is just finding what I need amongst the myriad of 
materials I've collected. But I have a plan for next year for retardment. My 
'retirement' will really just mean swapping focus from the oil & gas business 
to Fantasy Flies and videos. I intend to get a shop and turn it into a fly-base 
of operations. Ahh, the video.  Rope-dub DVD#2.  Thinking of an alternate plan- 
put it out for comments. Instead of a long DVD which is taking forever to film 
and produce (if I can get any time), how about a You-tube channel with themed 
short videos uploaded regularly- not only on rope-dubbing (will go on forever), 
but on mice (deerhair), flex-o, McFlyfoam, #32's, salt-flies, streamers, etc.?  
Big difference is it would be free to all, which is how I handled it in the 
first place with Byard, putting the RD videos on his site for anyone to see 
(pretty crude at the time).  My pay would be with visits & subscribers- from 
Y-T. Then also I’d still be selling the giant Fantasy Flies, framed streamers, 
mice, etc. Hopefully make for a busy yet pleasant retirement. This way I could 
somewhat follow the comments in adjusting what I tie or show next and just let 
it evolve. Of course, there will be my sense of humor worked in throughout all 
of the videos to keep it from being all ‘dry’. And since I’m slowing way down 
in attending fly shows (travelling less and less), I’ll make a ‘Baits Hotel’ 
video just for giggles and grins (and to survive me). Comments? (Especially 
from those who have DVD #1.) DonO  -Original Message- From: Allan Fish 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:37 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: 
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RE: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option?

2016-06-15 Thread J Balmer

I enjoyed the first DVD, & have referenced it more than once. My now primary 
method is dubbing your way w/ mono. 

The idea of making tying more interactive is more than intriguing, & having 
individual techniques or flies on YouTube or some other accessible website w/ 
commentary would certainly facilitate that. I’m in regardless of how you decide 
to proceed.

 

J

 

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Don Ordes
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Fly tying can be a couple of nights a month to stock up on depleted favorite 
patterns, or a full-blown multi-faceted hobby, hobby-business, part-time 
business, or retirement business. 

 

If you include the satellite activities besides fishing, which include getting 
together with other tiers, attending fly shows (or tying at them), researching, 
publishing books or videos, mentoring, and of course vfb-ing, there's a lot to 
keep it diverse and interesting. When it gets boring, just add a new venue to 
the tying and challenge yourself to kick it up a notch.  Or plan a new trip for 
different fish, and tie the flies needed for that.  It should never ever get 
boring, especially if you include a sense of humor or art to the process.

 

On materials, my challenge after this last move and re-organization is just 
finding what I need amongst the myriad of materials I've collected. But I have 
a plan for next year for retardment. My 'retirement' will really just mean 
swapping focus from the oil & gas business to Fantasy Flies and videos. I 
intend to get a shop and turn it into a fly-base of operations.

 

Ahh, the video.  Rope-dub DVD#2.  Thinking of an alternate plan- put it out for 
comments.

 

Instead of a long DVD which is taking forever to film and produce (if I can get 
any time), how about a You-tube channel with themed short videos uploaded 
regularly- not only on rope-dubbing (will go on forever), but on mice 
(deerhair), flex-o, McFlyfoam, #32's, salt-flies, streamers, etc.? 

 

Big difference is it would be free to all, which is how I handled it in the 
first place with Byard, putting the RD videos on his site for anyone to see 
(pretty crude at the time).  My pay would be with visits & subscribers- from 
Y-T. Then also I’d still be selling the giant Fantasy Flies, framed streamers, 
mice, etc. Hopefully make for a busy yet pleasant retirement.

 

This way I could somewhat follow the comments in adjusting what I tie or show 
next and just let it evolve. Of course, there will be my sense of humor worked 
in throughout all of the videos to keep it from being all ‘dry’.

 

And since I’m slowing way down in attending fly shows (travelling less and 
less), I’ll make a ‘Baits Hotel’ video just for giggles and grins (and to 
survive me).

 

Comments? (Especially from those who have DVD #1.)

 

DonO

 

 

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Subject: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD 

 

p.s.:

I also like to be around other fly tyers.  You get to meet so many neat 

people.

 

And the occasional scalawag like me.

 

Allan

 

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Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option?

2016-06-15 Thread Don Ordes

Fly tying can be a couple of nights a month to stock up on depleted favorite 
patterns, or a full-blown multi-faceted hobby, hobby-business, part-time 
business, or retirement business. 

If you include the satellite activities besides fishing, which include getting 
together with other tiers, attending fly shows (or tying at them), researching, 
publishing books or videos, mentoring, and of course vfb-ing, there's a lot to 
keep it diverse and interesting. When it gets boring, just add a new venue to 
the tying and challenge yourself to kick it up a notch.  Or plan a new trip for 
different fish, and tie the flies needed for that.  It should never ever get 
boring, especially if you include a sense of humor or art to the process.

On materials, my challenge after this last move and re-organization is just 
finding what I need amongst the myriad of materials I've collected. But I have 
a plan for next year for retardment. My 'retirement' will really just mean 
swapping focus from the oil & gas business to Fantasy Flies and videos. I 
intend to get a shop and turn it into a fly-base of operations.

Ahh, the video.  Rope-dub DVD#2.  Thinking of an alternate plan- put it out for 
comments.

Instead of a long DVD which is taking forever to film and produce (if I can get 
any time), how about a You-tube channel with themed short videos uploaded 
regularly- not only on rope-dubbing (will go on forever), but on mice 
(deerhair), flex-o, McFlyfoam, #32's, salt-flies, streamers, etc.? 

Big difference is it would be free to all, which is how I handled it in the 
first place with Byard, putting the RD videos on his site for anyone to see 
(pretty crude at the time).  My pay would be with visits & subscribers- from 
Y-T. Then also I’d still be selling the giant Fantasy Flies, framed streamers, 
mice, etc. Hopefully make for a busy yet pleasant retirement.

This way I could somewhat follow the comments in adjusting what I tie or show 
next and just let it evolve. Of course, there will be my sense of humor worked 
in throughout all of the videos to keep it from being all ‘dry’.

And since I’m slowing way down in attending fly shows (travelling less and 
less), I’ll make a ‘Baits Hotel’ video just for giggles and grins (and to 
survive me).

Comments? (Especially from those who have DVD #1.)

DonO

 

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p.s.:
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people.

And the occasional scalawag like me.

Allan

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-14 Thread Jack Harford

Agree with Rick - the flies I use the most are not available in fly shops.


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> Considering many of the patterns that I tie and use are not commercially
> available, then the cost of tying is cheaper.
>
> Rick
>
>
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> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] QFTD
>
> J,
>
> You and I are in the same status.  I'm afraid to count all the shoe boxes
> of materials I have - and I can't get the lids to shut tightly on most of
> them.
>
> Save money?  Forget it.  It's like any hobby - you do it for fun, not to
> save money.  If you're doing it for work, it's no longer fun.
>
> Al
>
>
> On 6/14/16 10:19 AM, J Balmer wrote:
>
> I’d have to tie for a long time before all the supplies & gear I’ve
> purchased make it cheapJ
>
>
> *From:* 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:50 AM
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>
> "There are two basic reasons for dressing your own imitations: (1) to get
> exactly the type of fly you want whenever you need them, in the number sand
> sizes required, and (2) to save money.  In short, fly tying is convenient
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>
> Rick
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Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-14 Thread Jack Harford

I find Scalawags and eccentrics to be much more interesting than "normal"
people :D


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p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-14 Thread Allan Fish


p.s.:
I also like to be around other fly tyers.  You get to meet so many neat 
people.


And the occasional scalawag like me.

Allan

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-14 Thread Allan Fish


I just tie because I like to do so.
Allan

On 6/14/16 7:47 PM, Phxflytyer wrote:

I don't tie to save money.

I tie because I can tie what isn't available anywhere else.

I tie because I can customize my own creations as well as the standard 
fare



Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, AZ.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



On Jun 14, 2016, at 12:58 PM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
<vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


Considering many of the patterns that I tie and use are not 
commercially available, then the cost of tying is cheaper.


Rick



*From:* Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net>>
*To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:46 AM
*Subject:* Re: [VFB] QFTD

J,

You and I are in the same status.  I'm afraid to count all the shoe 
boxes of materials I have - and I can't get the lids to shut tightly 
on most of them.


Save money?  Forget it.  It's like any hobby - you do it for fun, not 
to save money.  If you're doing it for work, it's no longer fun.


Al


On 6/14/16 10:19 AM, J Balmer wrote:
I’d have to tie for a long time before all the supplies & gear I’ve 
purchased make it cheapJ

*From:*'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:50 AM
*To:* Google Inc. mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* [VFB] QFTD
"There are two basic reasons for dressing your own imitations: (1) to 
get exactly the type of fly you want whenever you need them, in the 
number sand sizes required, and (2) to save money.  In short, fly 
tying is convenient and cheap."

George Almy "Tying & Fishing Terrestrials"
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-14 Thread Phxflytyer

I don't tie to save money.

I tie because I can tie what isn't available anywhere else.   

I tie because I can customize my own creations as well as the standard fare


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, AZ.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



> On Jun 14, 2016, at 12:58 PM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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> Considering many of the patterns that I tie and use are not commercially 
> available, then the cost of tying is cheaper.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> From: Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net>
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> 
> J,
> 
> You and I are in the same status.  I'm afraid to count all the shoe boxes of 
> materials I have - and I can't get the lids to shut tightly on most of them.
> 
> Save money?  Forget it.  It's like any hobby - you do it for fun, not to save 
> money.  If you're doing it for work, it's no longer fun.
> 
> Al
> 
> 
>> On 6/14/16 10:19 AM, J Balmer wrote:
> 
> I’d have to tie for a long time before all the supplies & gear I’ve purchased 
> make it cheapJ
>  
>  
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>  
> "There are two basic reasons for dressing your own imitations: (1) to get 
> exactly the type of fly you want whenever you need them, in the number sand 
> sizes required, and (2) to save money.  In short, fly tying is convenient and 
> cheap."
>  
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> Rick
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-14 Thread 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail

Considering many of the patterns that I tie and use are not commercially 
available, then the cost of tying is cheaper.
Rick 

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 J,
 
 You and I are in the same status.  I'm afraid to count all the shoe boxes of 
materials I have - and I can't get the lids to shut tightly on most of them.
 
 Save money?  Forget it.  It's like any hobby - you do it for fun, not to save 
money.  If you're doing it for work, it's no longer fun.
 
 Al
 
 
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-14 Thread 'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail

I think almost all of use on the VFB  are in the same boat!

Me, IKEA wardrobe full of materials, plus what's in my tying desk, four tying 
vises, numerous bobbins, tools thread etc.  I probably don't want know what 
I've invested in fly tying.

That said, it's a hobby for me and well worth the investment!.

Wayne

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-14 Thread Allan Fish


J,

You and I are in the same status.  I'm afraid to count all the shoe 
boxes of materials I have - and I can't get the lids to shut tightly on 
most of them.


Save money?  Forget it.  It's like any hobby - you do it for fun, not to 
save money.  If you're doing it for work, it's no longer fun.


Al


On 6/14/16 10:19 AM, J Balmer wrote:


I’d have to tie for a long time before all the supplies & gear I’ve 
purchased make it cheapJ


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"There are two basic reasons for dressing your own imitations: (1) to 
get exactly the type of fly you want whenever you need them, in the 
number sand sizes required, and (2) to save money.  In short, fly 
tying is convenient and cheap."


George Almy   "Tying & Fishing Terrestrials"

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-14 Thread Jack Harford

Convenient . . . Maybe, Cheap . . . Questionable ;)
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RE: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-14 Thread J Balmer

I’d have to tie for a long time before all the supplies & gear I’ve purchased 
make it cheap:)

 

 

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"There are two basic reasons for dressing your own imitations: (1) to get 
exactly the type of fly you want whenever you need them, in the number sand 
sizes required, and (2) to save money.  In short, fly tying is convenient and 
cheap."

 

George Almy   "Tying & Fishing Terrestrials"

 

Rick 

 

 

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-01 Thread Jack Harford

And why do fish attack terrestrials with long dangling bright yellow legs??
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> I always move a hopper.  Thought this might stir the pot.
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> Why then do the fish seem to be stimulated by twitching the fly? Or is
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-01 Thread 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail

I always move a hopper.  Thought this might stir the pot.
Rickm

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Why then do the fish seem to be stimulated by twitching the fly? Or is that 
just our perception?  
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"But once on the water most terrestrials are incapable of making sufficient 
disturbance to warrant imitating."
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-06-01 Thread Jack Harford

Why then do the fish seem to be stimulated by twitching the fly? Or is that
just our perception?

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> "But once on the water most terrestrials are incapable of making
> sufficient disturbance to warrant imitating."
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RE: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-17 Thread J Balmer

I’d say, catching fish instead of just waving @ them…

 

J

 

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"Normally the air will be full of insects, may flies and caddis flies, beetles, 
grasshopper, crickets and whatnot.  What rule of priority makes the mayfly more 
important than the beetle, or the caddis fly more important than the cricket?"

 

A J Mc lane quoted in "Tying and Fishing Terrestrials" by Gerald Almy

 

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-14 Thread Allan Fish


On 5/14/16 4:34 PM, Phxflytyer wrote:

Quite a FISH story?

Alan,

That's the only kind I tell.

Allan

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-14 Thread Phxflytyer

Quite a FISH story?


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, AZ.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



> On May 13, 2016, at 2:18 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> 
>> On 5/13/16 3:50 PM, J Balmer wrote:
>> I prefer fishing fish, but I actually have two rods & reels I caught while 
>> fishing in local lakes.
> My favorite equipment catch was many years ago (in the early 1960's) when I 
> first started fishing using a bait caster.  I still have the old Abu Garcia 
> reel and it works as smoothly as ever.  Back to the story.  The fellow who 
> got me into fishing took me to a nearby lake and was teaching me how to cast 
> properly (I never did learn).  I hooked a nice bass and apparently hadn't 
> done a good job of tying on my favorite lure - it broke off.  Fortunately 
> I had another one.  In fact at that time I probably only owned 1/2 dozen 
> lures.  
> 
> A couple of weeks later my "mentor" took me back to the same lake.  By that 
> time I had practiced my knots.  I hooked another nice fish in the same area.  
> This time I was more careful fighting it and made sure it didn't break off 
> this time.  It was about a 3-4 pounderwith both lures in his mouth!!
> 
> af
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-13 Thread Allan Fish


On 5/13/16 3:50 PM, J Balmer wrote:


I prefer fishing fish, but I actually have two rods & reels I caught 
while fishing in local lakes.



My favorite equipment catch was many years ago (in the early 1960's) 
when I first started fishing using a bait caster.  I still have the old 
Abu Garcia reel and it works as smoothly as ever.  Back to the story.  
The fellow who got me into fishing took me to a nearby lake and was 
teaching me how to cast properly (I never did learn).  I hooked a nice 
bass and apparently hadn't done a good job of tying on my favorite lure 
- it broke off.  Fortunately I had another one.  In fact at that time I 
probably only owned 1/2 dozen lures.


A couple of weeks later my "mentor" took me back to the same lake. By 
that time I had practiced my knots.  I hooked another nice fish in the 
same area.  This time I was more careful fighting it and made sure it 
didn't break off this time.  It was about a 3-4 pounderwith both 
lures in his mouth!!


af

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RE: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-13 Thread J Balmer

I prefer fishing fish, but I actually have two rods & reels I caught while 
fishing in local lakes.

 

J

 

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"Fishing equipment is fun."

 

Roderick Hair-Brown "The fisherman's Guide to Life"

 

 

PS. Great fun on a pond this morning.

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-12 Thread Michael Bliss

Interesting BUT how is the diet of the trout compared in this.  Given where
they live I would guess they eat many times more "water insects" than "land
insects"

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> term 'insect' is virtually synonymous with terrestrials insect in everyday
> usage.  Even fly fisherman fail to comprehend that, by comparison, the
> aquatic insects comprise a tiny category - barely five percent of all
> insect species inhabit the water (though the early ancestors of all insects
> were once marine)
> A mere fifteen hundred species of mayflies have been discovered" over two
> hundred times this many species of beetles exist.".
>
> George Almy"Tying and Fishing Terrestrials"
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> Rick
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-10 Thread 'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail

Well said!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-07 Thread 'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail

Well,  I am on opiate pain medication,  or actually was. Going cold turkey for 
last couple of days.
Wayneb 

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> Alan: I idolize every word!
Not THAT is scary!

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-07 Thread Allan Fish


On 5/7/16 8:39 AM, 'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail wrote:

Alan: I idolize every word!

Not THAT is scary!

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2016-05-07 Thread 'Wayne Blake-Hedges' via VFB Mail

Alan: I idolize every word!
Wayneb  (Alan's Internet stalker)

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  On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Phxflytyer wrote:   <|:)>


Sent from my iPad
Thank You,Alan Di SommaPhoenix, AZ.
Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.


On May 6, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Jack Harford  wrote:



Oh . . . your snarcasm :)
On May 6, 2016 10:30 PM, "Allan Fish"  wrote:

  :-)
 
 
 On 5/6/16 10:17 PM, Phxflytyer wrote:
  
 I do.
 
 
  Sent from my iPad  
  Thank You,  Alan Di Somma Phoenix, AZ. 
  Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. 
  
   
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  On 5/6/16 10:12 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
  
  "The fact of the matter is, we anglers, depend upon and cherish the words of 
our predecessor and fellow fishermen." 
  
 
 I really doubt that anyone cherishes my snarky remarks.  ;-)
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-06 Thread Phxflytyer

<|:)>


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, AZ.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



> On May 6, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Jack Harford  wrote:
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> Oh . . . your snarcasm :)
> 
>> On May 6, 2016 10:30 PM, "Allan Fish"  wrote:
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>> 
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>>> On 5/6/16 10:17 PM, Phxflytyer wrote:
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> Thank You,
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>>> Phoenix, AZ.
>>> 
>>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> On 5/6/16 10:12 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-06 Thread Allan Fish


On 5/6/16 10:33 PM, Jack Harford wrote:


Oh . . . your snarcasm :)


I like that word!  Thanks.

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2016-05-06 Thread Jack Harford

Or is it spelled "snarkasm" anyway we cherish it ;)
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> Oh . . . your snarcasm :)
> On May 6, 2016 10:30 PM, "Allan Fish"  wrote:
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>> :-)
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>> On 5/6/16 10:17 PM, Phxflytyer wrote:
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>> I do.
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-06 Thread Jack Harford

Oh . . . your snarcasm :)
On May 6, 2016 10:30 PM, "Allan Fish"  wrote:

> :-)
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> On 5/6/16 10:17 PM, Phxflytyer wrote:
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> I do.
>
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> Sent from my iPad
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>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
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>
>
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-06 Thread Allan Fish


:-)


On 5/6/16 10:17 PM, Phxflytyer wrote:

I do.


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
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Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



On May 6, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Allan Fish > wrote:



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words of our predecessor and fellow fishermen."




I really doubt that anyone cherishes my snarky remarks. ;-)
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-06 Thread Phxflytyer

I do.


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
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Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-06 Thread Allan Fish


On 5/6/16 10:12 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
"The fact of the matter is, we anglers, depend upon and cherish the 
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I really doubt that anyone cherishes my snarky remarks. ;-)

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-03 Thread 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail

Gills and crappie.
Rick 

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Are you heading out for some bluegills?
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"The angling fever is a very real disease and can only be cured by the 
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-05-03 Thread Jack Harford

Are you heading out for some bluegills?

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> Theodore "Gordon"The Fisherman's Guide to Life"
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> Rick
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-04-28 Thread Allan Fish


On 4/28/16 10:33 AM, Jack Harford wrote:

What are the qualifications to be "well govern'd" ???

Sounds to me like being married.




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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-04-28 Thread 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail

Not me.
Rick

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"No life is so happy and so pleasant as the life of a well-govern'd angler."
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2016-04-28 Thread Jack Harford

What are the qualifications to be "well govern'd" ???

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RE: [VFB] QFTD

2016-04-26 Thread J Balmer

Blues to Progressive rock. Acoustic is mostly blues & some modern jazz,  the 
band boogies.

 

J

 

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Subject: RE: [VFB] QFTD

 

Hi J

I play at guitar. Mostly a Strummer. What kind music? Just three guitars at 
this time. Not nearly as big as the fly rod collection :)

Jack

On Apr 26, 2016 10:52 AM, "J Balmer" <jbal...@betadigm.com 
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I’m also a guitar player, so I have two expensive collections of stuff…

 

J

 

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Perhaps understating the obvious :D

 

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"If Fish Could Scream" John Schullery 

 

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RE: [VFB] QFTD

2016-04-26 Thread Jack Harford

Hi J

I play at guitar. Mostly a Strummer. What kind music? Just three guitars at
this time. Not nearly as big as the fly rod collection :)

Jack
On Apr 26, 2016 10:52 AM, "J Balmer" <jbal...@betadigm.com> wrote:

I’m also a guitar player, so I have two expensive collections of stuff…



J



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Perhaps understating the obvious :D



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"Fly fishers, perhaps more than most other sportsmen, are notorious for our
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"If Fish Could Scream" John Schullery



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RE: [VFB] QFTD

2016-04-26 Thread J Balmer

I’m also a guitar player, so I have two expensive collections of stuff…

 

J

 

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Perhaps understating the obvious :D

 

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"Fly fishers, perhaps more than most other sportsmen, are notorious for our 
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"If Fish Could Scream" John Schullery 

 

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-04-26 Thread Jack Harford

Perhaps understating the obvious :D

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> Rick
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RE: [VFB] QFTD

2016-04-20 Thread J Balmer

Some…

 

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"Lesson 7:  Anglers have great clothing."

 

"In-Fisherman"  vol 41 no 2

 

Rick 

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-04-12 Thread Allan Fish


On 4/12/16 10:19 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:

"Fishing hates the letter 'g"."

How many word leave the letter "g" of. bassin', flippin', fishin'
tyin', rowin', castin' - that's more of a bassmaster term - mah castin' 
pole.


Seeya Thursday evening or Fri. morning.

af

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-04-07 Thread Allan Fish


On 4/7/16 5:27 PM, J Balmer wrote:


I’ll have a few quotes while I’m either in the river or @ the Sowbug, 
but they may not be appropriate…




Just don't fall in.  I guarantee your quotes wouldn't be appropriate!  

af

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RE: [VFB] QFTD

2016-04-07 Thread J Balmer

I’ll have a few quotes while I’m either in the river or @ the Sowbug, but they 
may not be appropriate…

 

J

 

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I will be gone April 13-17.   

Does anyone want to do quotes those days?

 

Rick

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-03-31 Thread Jack Harford

My Motto: Fish While You Can!!


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> "The trout do not rise in the cemetery, so you be3tter do your fishing
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> Sparse Grey Hackle"The Fisherman's Guide to life"
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-03-30 Thread Allan Fish


On 3/30/16 9:29 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
"A lake is the landscape's most beautiful and expressive feature.  It 
is earth's eye, looking into which the beholder measures the depth of 
his own nature."


Henry David Thoreau   "The Fisherman's Guide to Life"


Old Hank Davey T.  knew of what he spaketh in this one!

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-03-30 Thread Phxflytyer

This is a good one.


Sent from my iPad

Thank You,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, AZ.

Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-03-29 Thread Neville Gosling

He Al don't groan - I like it!

Neville (Nev) Gosling

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> Mini-groan.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> "Life without fishing is like a dull pencil, there is no point."
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> found online
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-03-29 Thread Allan Fish

Mini-groan. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2016, at 9:30 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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> "Life without fishing is like a dull pencil, there is no point."
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> found online
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> Rick 
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RE: [VFB] QFTD

2016-03-28 Thread ladyflytyer



If this isn't the truth! And after all the fish less days looking at brown 
water for miles Florida finally realized it has a problem, very long standing.
Peggy BNashville, TN


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S

 Original message 
From: 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail  
Date: 03/28/2016  10:17 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: google  
Subject: [VFB] QFTD 

"I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and without 
regret."
Roderick Haig-Brown   "The Fisherman's Guide to Life"
Rick  

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-03-28 Thread Ed Roden

This past Saturday in fact!

Ed Roden
Email: flyfished at gmail dot com
Twitter: @flyfished
mittenstateangler.com

Henrietta Lange: The true test of a commander is when he is as frightened
and confused as those who look up to him. In that moment, when you can't
find it in yourself, you will find it in them. That's leadership.

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Re: [VFB] QFTD

2016-03-28 Thread Allan Fish


On 3/28/16 10:17 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
"I have fished through fishless days that I remember happily and 
without regret."


MANY times.  

af

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