Re: [videoblogging] Feed Me Bubbe in the Wall Street Journal!
can u give link pls On 5/9/07, avrom_h [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a very exciting time for everyone at Chalutz Productions. Please check out tomorrows issue of the Wall Street Journal. Look for the article about Feed Me Bubbe. An early happy mothers day to everyone, -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Steve Across America: Atlanta May 9th
oh when willu be in sf? On 5/8/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Join me, Michael Bailey, Justin Kownacki, Vergel Evans, Sherry Heyl, Rusty Tanton and Amber Rhea in Atlanta at Manuel's Tavern on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 at 6:00 for an informal gathering of Atlanta area media makers. RSVP here: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/187007/ See ya. -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pixelodeon attendees
We could rent a van maybe, and make a shuttle out of it for the event... We'd need someone to just drive people around in the van all day/night though...but I think there's enough time to find someone for that :-) is this what you're already working out? thanks, lisa That is the other project, to provide a van or carpool option so that we can go as a bunch then party on before, during and after the event. PixelodeonFest will have a new site up soon with all the detail. I know it is getting kinda close but hang in there. Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Rein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there a hotel that's closes to where the films and parties will be? I'm just trying to get as physically close to the venue since I'll be carrying stuff. I can't tell from the wiki how close in proximity any of the hotels are to the venue. thanks! lisa Hi Tim - Last I heard Steve and Zadi were working on finalizing the hotel side of the event. There is a wiki page for hotel possibilities: http://pixelodeon.pbwiki.com/Hotels-and-Transportation So if you want to can add to the wiki so they can see it or I can do it if you want. I'm leaning in that neighborhood's direction with the Hollywood Celebrity and the place across the street. I saw the Magic Castle hotel up the street but was running out to time to check it out. Cheers, Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, T Shey timshey@ wrote: Some more Magic Castle details -- only 6 king rooms left available there. These have 1 king bed in the bedroom and a full/queen sofabed in the living room. Unfortunately, none of the 3 suites with 2 Queen beds is available; neither are the 2-BR suites. I'd need to grab quickly -- best, Tim On 5/11/07, T Shey timshey@ wrote: Sorry for the delay on this everyone -- I was able to find two group discount options in the area for Pixelodeon through the travel agency that helped us with bookings for the Frederator Awards. Here are the details -- if there's interest, please let me know and I will coordinate with the Pixelodeon gang to get these blocked off. 1) Magic Castle -- no block needed for discount. Our corp. rate at Magic Castle is $149 for a queen room and $159/nt for a 1-BR suite. But the 1-BR suites are very shareable -- they have a sleeper sofa in the living room and either 1 king or 2 double beds in the bedroom. 2) Hollywood Celebrity Hotel -- $129/nt for double queen rooms $119/nt for king rooms If the group falls below 10 rooms, the rate would go up $10. per room. We would need a credit card to block the space, but specials terms would apply -- 2 weeks notice for cancellations. Taxes are addl 14%. Here's their website: http://www.hotelcelebrity.com/ It's a basic, but clean, comfortable motel type place; recently renovated. Double queen rooms can be shared, max of 4 people. -- --- Tim Shey http://shey.net/ Check out the Next New Networks! http://nextnewnetworks.com/networks.html --- Lisa Rein http://videobloggingweek.mefeedia.com/ http://onlisareinsradar.com http://www.mefeedia.com http://www.lisarein.com Lisa Rein http://videobloggingweek.mefeedia.com/ http://onlisareinsradar.com http://www.mefeedia.com http://www.lisarein.com
[videoblogging] Comparing Quality of 8mp, Hi8, Digital 8 Tapes
I have a Sony TRV285E camcorder that can use 8mp, Hi8, Digital 8 tapes. Does anyone know about the different results obtainable with these, I ask because I have the opportunity to buy 8mp,and Hi8 tapes at a reduced price. Would I notice the difference from Digital8 which I use normally ? regards Phil Slade
Re: [videoblogging] Comparing Quality of 8mp, Hi8, Digital 8 Tape
If no one responds, sounds like a great opportunity for you to fill in our collective knowledge gap. For $12 you could concduct a proper experiment that would benefit us all :) Cool. Jan [Owner of now-dead TRV camera who used Hi-8 tapes only] On 5/12/07, philonmessage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Sony TRV285E camcorder that can use 8mp, Hi8, Digital 8 tapes. Does anyone know about the different results obtainable with these, I ask because I have the opportunity to buy 8mp,and Hi8 tapes at a reduced price. Would I notice the difference from Digital8 which I use normally ? regards Phil Slade Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv http://twitter.com/fauxpress aim=janofsound air=862.221.5280 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Mom out of prison: the video
We recently just helped raise money for a project over at Lives in Focus. you can see the first video here: http://www.livesinfocus.org/prison/2007/05/a-special-mothers-day.html#comment-2074 Sandeep, who runs the project, found four people to document what prison does to people. Either the experience of being incarceratedor having a parent in jail while growing up. Human stories. give some support by leaving a comment. jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
[videoblogging] Why Joost?
I'm working on an article I hope to publish tomorrow on my weblog about aggregators like Joost and I was hoping to get some feedback from anyone who has any expectations for Joost. I will not be surprised if Joost winds up becoming a staple video distribution point for many, but as of now, I can not see it. We have seen dozens of these roll out similarly with money and popular founders yet they all seem to offer the same thing. And most are not catching any sparks. Isn't Joost the new Brightcove and wasn't Brightcove the new Akimbo which was the new TiVo? I dont mean to rag on any companies here, Im just wondering why the party would suddenly be over at Joost. You can buy relationships to match advertisers and content partners but where will the audience come from? Any ideas?
[videoblogging] Re: Why Joost?
I don't know much about Brightcove or Akimbo, but it seems to me that Joost is depending upon brand-name MSM-style shows to be its main draw. They have the fight channel now that people are so interested in Mixed Martial Arts. They make up these bogus dating shows with weak actors. They REALLY need to do something about their randomly-generated advertisements that aren't even programmed to appear during a break in the actual show... it just INTERRUPTS the program, then lets it start again when it's finished. I think the other draw is that you can choose what channels to have on it. I can't see how interesting the chat feature could be because there aren't any profiles for the chat names that I could find. Also, they're going to have to step up how often they change their content, because avid television watchers are going to go through an entire channel in one sitting, and then there's no reason to tune in. Of course, there's the other objection that independent content creators haven't been invited to the party. :) I think that so far, the buzz has been created by the exclusivity of the project. We'll see what happens when they turn the corner from beta-testing into the actual product. Now... stop blogging and get ready to LOSE AGAIN in FRISBEE 2.0!!! :D g -- Bill C. http://VlogDeathmatch.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on an article I hope to publish tomorrow on my weblog about aggregators like Joost and I was hoping to get some feedback from anyone who has any expectations for Joost. I will not be surprised if Joost winds up becoming a staple video distribution point for many, but as of now, I can not see it. We have seen dozens of these roll out similarly with money and popular founders yet they all seem to offer the same thing. And most are not catching any sparks. Isn't Joost the new Brightcove and wasn't Brightcove the new Akimbo which was the new TiVo? I dont mean to rag on any companies here, Im just wondering why the party would suddenly be over at Joost. You can buy relationships to match advertisers and content partners but where will the audience come from? Any ideas?
[videoblogging] Re: Why Joost?
I like Joost, but the question i keep asking about these players: Why aggregate on the Desktop / Player? It just feels like the player will eventually be ubiquitous - you will play your media on whatever device you are currently on - Desktop, iPod, XBox 360, Car TV, Airplane TV - whenever you want access to what you want to watch, you will be able to get it. Web-based aggregation just makes so much more sense if you look at it from the perspective of what aggregators should do best: 1) Help people discover great content, and help content creators gain audiences. 2) Give people tools to organize and share that content with others. 3) Provide an easy mechanism to enjoy that content on whatever device / player the consumers and creators want. Our belief is that the aggregators that do these three things well will provide value and rise up above others. It just makes so much more sense for this to be web-based and be independent of the type of content (viral, vlogs, MSM). The future will be about people enjoying content from CNN and Rocketboom, Scrubs and Ask a Ninja, The Office and Goodnight Burbank. It is very similar to how i read news today - Wall Street Journal and PaidContent.org, Business 2.0 and TechCrunch, etc... Andrew - fell free to give me a call if you want to discuss. 310-927- 7841. Thanks, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 310-927-7841 (cell) Y: fsinton Skype: fsinton http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Enjoy great videos and podcasts Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Joost had initial buzz because of their previous record with Skype. And that buzz helped lead to a lot of deals. One question will be how much promotion those partners will give joost (as opposed to their other partnerships and own sites), so it could potentially move beyond everyone who wanted an invite because of buzz (and scarcity). And how well they can scale. People used to tv just working aren't going to come back if joost crashes their computer (particularly if they can get the same content elsewhere). They also need better information on the shows people might not be familiar with. Another is if the advertising will be more creative than other efforts. For an ad based model to work, at the very least they need to better understand the medium. When I watch a Fox show on myspace, they show the same damn ad I'm not interested in in the first place four times. So I just hit mute for 30 seconds and read (or do something else during the ad). Ofcourse, I usually do the same thing when I'm watching old fashioned tv, but... -- Steve Rhodes http://ari.typepad.com http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat interesting articles sites http://twitter.com/tigerbeat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Why Joost?
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like Joost, but the question i keep asking about these players: Why aggregate on the Desktop / Player? It just feels like the player will eventually be ubiquitous - you will play your media on whatever device you are currently on - Desktop, iPod, XBox 360, Car TV, Airplane TV - whenever you want access to what you want to watch, you will be able to get it. There are at least two benefits for Joost in sending the videos through their own player: 1: You never get to download the videos, so you have to keep coming back to Joost to see that video. That leads to a better ability to account for how many views a particular video or channel gets. 2: They can place those ridiculous ads wherever they want to. They wouldn't be able to do that if you were watching Joost videos in Quicktime player or on your iPod. -- Bill C. http://VlogDeathmatch.com Web-based aggregation just makes so much more sense if you look at it from the perspective of what aggregators should do best: 1) Help people discover great content, and help content creators gain audiences. 2) Give people tools to organize and share that content with others. 3) Provide an easy mechanism to enjoy that content on whatever device / player the consumers and creators want. Our belief is that the aggregators that do these three things well will provide value and rise up above others. It just makes so much more sense for this to be web-based and be independent of the type of content (viral, vlogs, MSM). The future will be about people enjoying content from CNN and Rocketboom, Scrubs and Ask a Ninja, The Office and Goodnight Burbank. It is very similar to how i read news today - Wall Street Journal and PaidContent.org, Business 2.0 and TechCrunch, etc... Andrew - fell free to give me a call if you want to discuss. 310-927- 7841. Thanks, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 310-927-7841 (cell) Y: fsinton Skype: fsinton http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Enjoy great videos and podcasts Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Rhodes srhodes@ wrote: Well, Joost had initial buzz because of their previous record with Skype. And that buzz helped lead to a lot of deals. One question will be how much promotion those partners will give joost (as opposed to their other partnerships and own sites), so it could potentially move beyond everyone who wanted an invite because of buzz (and scarcity). And how well they can scale. People used to tv just working aren't going to come back if joost crashes their computer (particularly if they can get the same content elsewhere). They also need better information on the shows people might not be familiar with. Another is if the advertising will be more creative than other efforts. For an ad based model to work, at the very least they need to better understand the medium. When I watch a Fox show on myspace, they show the same damn ad I'm not interested in in the first place four times. So I just hit mute for 30 seconds and read (or do something else during the ad). Ofcourse, I usually do the same thing when I'm watching old fashioned tv, but... -- Steve Rhodes http://ari.typepad.com http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat interesting articles sites http://twitter.com/tigerbeat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Why Joost?
Well in the case of Joost its because peer2peer is at the heart of their system and theres no standard way to achieve that in web browsers yet. I dont think Id even think of Joost as an aggregator to be honest, its much closer to the old TV model. The other reason people want a desktop (or device-based) aggregator is the idea of the videos being downloaded to local storage for them automatically. Thats definately one of the things that got people on this list and elsewhere excited about the likes of fireant, and podcasting was pretty much born out of this stuff. I like both approaches. For finding stuff Id rather use mefeedia and similar, and if I ever find shows I want to stick with, I'll use a desktop aggregator or more recently the nokia podcasting thing on my phone. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like Joost, but the question i keep asking about these players: Why aggregate on the Desktop / Player? It just feels like the player will eventually be ubiquitous - you will play your media on whatever device you are currently on - Desktop, iPod, XBox 360, Car TV, Airplane TV - whenever you want access to what you want to watch, you will be able to get it. Web-based aggregation just makes so much more sense if you look at it from the perspective of what aggregators should do best: 1) Help people discover great content, and help content creators gain audiences. 2) Give people tools to organize and share that content with others. 3) Provide an easy mechanism to enjoy that content on whatever device / player the consumers and creators want. Our belief is that the aggregators that do these three things well will provide value and rise up above others. It just makes so much more sense for this to be web-based and be independent of the type of content (viral, vlogs, MSM). The future will be about people enjoying content from CNN and Rocketboom, Scrubs and Ask a Ninja, The Office and Goodnight Burbank. It is very similar to how i read news today - Wall Street Journal and PaidContent.org, Business 2.0 and TechCrunch, etc... Andrew - fell free to give me a call if you want to discuss. 310-927- 7841. Thanks, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 310-927-7841 (cell) Y: fsinton Skype: fsinton http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Enjoy great videos and podcasts Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Rhodes srhodes@ wrote: Well, Joost had initial buzz because of their previous record with Skype. And that buzz helped lead to a lot of deals. One question will be how much promotion those partners will give joost (as opposed to their other partnerships and own sites), so it could potentially move beyond everyone who wanted an invite because of buzz (and scarcity). And how well they can scale. People used to tv just working aren't going to come back if joost crashes their computer (particularly if they can get the same content elsewhere). They also need better information on the shows people might not be familiar with. Another is if the advertising will be more creative than other efforts. For an ad based model to work, at the very least they need to better understand the medium. When I watch a Fox show on myspace, they show the same damn ad I'm not interested in in the first place four times. So I just hit mute for 30 seconds and read (or do something else during the ad). Ofcourse, I usually do the same thing when I'm watching old fashioned tv, but... -- Steve Rhodes http://ari.typepad.com http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat interesting articles sites http://twitter.com/tigerbeat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Why Joost?
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well in the case of Joost its because peer2peer is at the heart of their system and theres no standard way to achieve that in web browsers yet. I dont think Id even think of Joost as an aggregator to be honest, its much closer to the old TV model. I agree - i don't really see them as an aggregator. More like another player / p2p device with some search and share elements. The other reason people want a desktop (or device-based) aggregator is the idea of the videos being downloaded to local storage for them automatically. Thats definately one of the things that got people on this list and elsewhere excited about the likes of fireant, and podcasting was pretty much born out of this stuff. Agreed - that was point #3 below - Provide an easy mechanism to enjoy that content on whatever device / player the consumers and creators want. After you have found what you want and organized it, you put that RSS feed / 1-click subscribe to your player(s) of choice and the videos get downloaded to Fireant, Democracy, iTunes, Joost (maybe in the future - we will see), XBox 360, Nokia phone, etc. etc... The goal is that, eventually, you should be able to 1-click send to all my devices/players. You could completely program your entire evening's entertainment from work. Would require some of the device manufactures to adopt some standard, open interfaces, unfortunately. I like both approaches. For finding stuff Id rather use mefeedia and similar, and if I ever find shows I want to stick with, I'll use a desktop aggregator or more recently the nokia podcasting thing on my phone. Agreed. :) Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton frank@ wrote: I like Joost, but the question i keep asking about these players: Why aggregate on the Desktop / Player? It just feels like the player will eventually be ubiquitous - you will play your media on whatever device you are currently on - Desktop, iPod, XBox 360, Car TV, Airplane TV - whenever you want access to what you want to watch, you will be able to get it. Web-based aggregation just makes so much more sense if you look at it from the perspective of what aggregators should do best: 1) Help people discover great content, and help content creators gain audiences. 2) Give people tools to organize and share that content with others. 3) Provide an easy mechanism to enjoy that content on whatever device / player the consumers and creators want. Our belief is that the aggregators that do these three things well will provide value and rise up above others. It just makes so much more sense for this to be web-based and be independent of the type of content (viral, vlogs, MSM). The future will be about people enjoying content from CNN and Rocketboom, Scrubs and Ask a Ninja, The Office and Goodnight Burbank. It is very similar to how i read news today - Wall Street Journal and PaidContent.org, Business 2.0 and TechCrunch, etc... Andrew - fell free to give me a call if you want to discuss. 310-927- 7841. Thanks, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia frank@ 310-927-7841 (cell) Y: fsinton Skype: fsinton http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Enjoy great videos and podcasts Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Rhodes srhodes@ wrote: Well, Joost had initial buzz because of their previous record with Skype. And that buzz helped lead to a lot of deals. One question will be how much promotion those partners will give joost (as opposed to their other partnerships and own sites), so it could potentially move beyond everyone who wanted an invite because of buzz (and scarcity). And how well they can scale. People used to tv just working aren't going to come back if joost crashes their computer (particularly if they can get the same content elsewhere). They also need better information on the shows people might not be familiar with. Another is if the advertising will be more creative than other efforts. For an ad based model to work, at the very least they need to better understand the medium. When I watch a Fox show on myspace, they show the same damn ad I'm not interested in in the first place four times. So I just hit mute for 30 seconds and read (or do something else during the ad). Ofcourse, I usually do the same thing when I'm watching old fashioned tv, but... -- Steve Rhodes http://ari.typepad.com http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat interesting articles sites http://twitter.com/tigerbeat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] wordpress.com and blip.tv issues
I can't seem to get my Blip.tv videos to play inside my wordpress.com blog posts. I have tried using the advanced options in Blip for the inline player, but no matter what I do I always get a pop-up window which prompts me to download. Also, the show player does not work at all. I've been thinking about switching over to wordpress.org. Has anyone had a similar experience? Any advice or ideas about how to solve this? i think ive heard this probelm before. you should contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
[videoblogging] Re: Why Joost?
I curious about Joost. I was wondering if anyone could send me an invite? Terry Rendon www.terryannonline.com
Re: [videoblogging] wordpress.com and blip.tv issues
i On May 12, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Jay dedman wrote: I can't seem to get my Blip.tv videos to play inside my wordpress.com blog posts. I have tried using the advanced options in Blip for the inline player, but no matter what I do I always get a pop-up window which prompts me to download. Also, the show player does not work at all. I've been thinking about switching over to wordpress.org. Has anyone had a similar experience? Any advice or ideas about how to solve this? i think ive heard this probelm before. you should contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] I posted it some time back http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/blip-users/message/1848 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Why Joost?
I am curious about Joost. I was wondering if someone could send me an invite? Terry Rendon www.terryannonline.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: Well in the case of Joost its because peer2peer is at the heart of their system and theres no standard way to achieve that in web browsers yet. I dont think Id even think of Joost as an aggregator to be honest, its much closer to the old TV model. I agree - i don't really see them as an aggregator. More like another player / p2p device with some search and share elements. The other reason people want a desktop (or device-based) aggregator is the idea of the videos being downloaded to local storage for them automatically. Thats definately one of the things that got people on this list and elsewhere excited about the likes of fireant, and podcasting was pretty much born out of this stuff. Agreed - that was point #3 below - Provide an easy mechanism to enjoy that content on whatever device / player the consumers and creators want. After you have found what you want and organized it, you put that RSS feed / 1-click subscribe to your player(s) of choice and the videos get downloaded to Fireant, Democracy, iTunes, Joost (maybe in the future - we will see), XBox 360, Nokia phone, etc. etc... The goal is that, eventually, you should be able to 1-click send to all my devices/players. You could completely program your entire evening's entertainment from work. Would require some of the device manufactures to adopt some standard, open interfaces, unfortunately. I like both approaches. For finding stuff Id rather use mefeedia and similar, and if I ever find shows I want to stick with, I'll use a desktop aggregator or more recently the nokia podcasting thing on my phone. Agreed. :) Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton frank@ wrote: I like Joost, but the question i keep asking about these players: Why aggregate on the Desktop / Player? It just feels like the player will eventually be ubiquitous - you will play your media on whatever device you are currently on - Desktop, iPod, XBox 360, Car TV, Airplane TV - whenever you want access to what you want to watch, you will be able to get it. Web-based aggregation just makes so much more sense if you look at it from the perspective of what aggregators should do best: 1) Help people discover great content, and help content creators gain audiences. 2) Give people tools to organize and share that content with others. 3) Provide an easy mechanism to enjoy that content on whatever device / player the consumers and creators want. Our belief is that the aggregators that do these three things well will provide value and rise up above others. It just makes so much more sense for this to be web-based and be independent of the type of content (viral, vlogs, MSM). The future will be about people enjoying content from CNN and Rocketboom, Scrubs and Ask a Ninja, The Office and Goodnight Burbank. It is very similar to how i read news today - Wall Street Journal and PaidContent.org, Business 2.0 and TechCrunch, etc... Andrew - fell free to give me a call if you want to discuss. 310-927- 7841. Thanks, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia frank@ 310-927-7841 (cell) Y: fsinton Skype: fsinton http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Enjoy great videos and podcasts Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Rhodes srhodes@ wrote: Well, Joost had initial buzz because of their previous record with Skype. And that buzz helped lead to a lot of deals. One question will be how much promotion those partners will give joost (as opposed to their other partnerships and own sites), so it could potentially move beyond everyone who wanted an invite because of buzz (and scarcity). And how well they can scale. People used to tv just working aren't going to come back if joost crashes their computer (particularly if they can get the same content elsewhere). They also need better information on the shows people might not be familiar with. Another is if the advertising will be more creative than other efforts. For an ad based model to work, at the very least they need to better understand the medium. When I watch a Fox show on myspace, they show the same damn ad I'm not interested in in the first place four times. So I just hit mute for 30 seconds and read (or do something else during the ad). Ofcourse, I usually do the same thing when I'm watching old fashioned tv, but... -- Steve Rhodes http://ari.typepad.com