[videoblogging] Re: A Webby Request: 5 Clever Words
Awesome Steve, thanks! Dina --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blip.tv is people, like you! Join us at blip.tv. Thanks. Thanks Steve Garfield from stevegarfield.com On May 31, 2007, at 2:02 PM, dinarebecca wrote: Hi you guys! Wanted to solicit some help for our five-word (or less) acceptance speech at the Webbies. Justin has the best one I've heard so far: Please. Keep. Uploading. Does anyone have any other thoughts/ideas/suggestions? (Also, the tickets are insane this year, so if anyone - by any chance - has an extra ticket we would LOVE to buy that from you and will be forever and ever and ever grateful!) Thanks so much, Dina Yahoo! Groups Links -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com This email is: [ ] publishable [X] ask first [ ] private
Re: [videoblogging] Best Practices for Media Aggregators Pixelodeon
sounds good roxanne :-) btw - I wasn't suggesting a point system at all (um. ick :) -- just a checklist. and really, just a little reformatting, with some links to appropriate docs, as a starting point. after the pixelodeon frenzy, perhaps we can write up a summary and provide some use cases. peace, lisa Lisa, I've added comments inline below. Thank you for your thoughtful comments! Aloha, Rox On 6/5/07, Lisa Rein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Roxanne, snip OK RE: http://www.barefeetstudios.com/aggregation/ Hey this doc looks like a great start -- but could use re-org and a few explanatory sections - in terms of having a summary, lists, etc., to make the spec a little easier to read and understand. I very much appreciate your feedback. FWIW, the html on that page came straight from MS Word - nuf said! The PDF reads a little easier, and yes, there is plenty of room for improvement. Let's see what kind of feedback comes in here over the next 24-48 hours, then I would love to let you place your loving hands on it so we have an improved version for Pixelodeon discussion. Also, I think it's very important to consider this more of a wish list, in the short term, for content owners and aggregators alike (albeit a good starting point for a score card of sorts in the future.) My point being that, to be fair, many of these best practices are actually very complex features that could literally take months or years to implement correctly. I'd like the group to debate this; many feel that there are ample RSS standards in place to accommodate most of what we have proposed. Techies?? Please weigh in on this. I'm not that worried about Mefeedia -- we seemed to have a good score when I went through the little checklist, for the most part, so I am pleased... Congrats.. :-) The idea of a point system has been in the back of my mind too. IMO that would require considerably more work (and agreement) plus a fair-minded panel to rate each aggregator. I think it's a great plan for version 2, if we can get v1 into motion. I also envision creating a master list of aggregators with some sort of indication of pass-fail, so we are on the same page with this idea. I don't expect anyone to score perfect; the idea is to move performance standards forward into tangible form. And the caveats are really meant to both provide wiggle room and cover the nuance of a particular service. For example, a lot of people host at blip. Blip shares movie-based ad revenue but not the display ad revenue that wraps media on the page. (I am pretty sure I am accurate on that.) OTOH, they host (not just aggregate) our media and provide so many value-adds. They also qualify as having a direct relationship with the CO, which also means anything is negotiable. But it was a little confusing going through the checklist, the way it was formatted... so I would be happy to offer my services as spec editor (for a little clean up now, and while making updates in the future) -- so we can add a summary, resources, links to working examples, etc., to make this a nice, professinal looking spec that will have to be taken seriously by businesses and can hopefully become a real pseudo facto standard for years to come. (I'm a w3c spec wonk from years back, if that explains why I would volunteer for such an arduous task. i'm sick. i actually like writing specs :-) You're on! I'll send you raw files off list tomorrow and look forward to your mastery Lisa. When we have those specific details and a clear guidelines for implementation in place, I believe more companies and vloggers will feel better about signing on to support it too. Agreed. Thanks! lisa http://www.mefeedia.com/blog dear roxanne, as soon as you are done with the document, let us please know: i will translate it to spanish. and the submission form could also be available in spanish (and other languages); don't you think so? this is an exciting initiative. besos. On 6/5/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunday 1 pm at Pixelodeon http://pixelodeonfest.com/schedule/ We'll be having a discussion on this topic in the DIY theatre. The goal is to finalize version 1 of a document that we can sign on to and begin to establish some performance standards. It is applicable to audio and video content. In preparation for Pixelodeon, I have gone through the many posts on this topic and the fine summaries created by Mike Hudack of blip.tv and Todd Cochrane of GeekNewsCentral and creating a working draft. Please look at the draft here: http://www.barefeetstudios.com/aggregation/ We have also had our programmer create an online database with submission form so that as soon as we have it polished, we can all add our names to the document as signatories. A page will display all the
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging Flashmeetings
hye enric could you show me how to book them? ill set them up for a while On 6/5/07, Adam Jochum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hear, hear. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] How to move from Amateur Vlogger to Professional Video Creator??
A few thoughts: First thing, buy a copy of dv101, A Hands-On Guide For Business, Government Educators by Jan Ozer (ISBN: 0-321-34897-4). Ozer makes four basic assumptions about the reader: * They are working alone. * They have only one camcorder. * They are editing digitally. * They are producing for professional distribution. The three shooting scenarios covered are: * Executive Briefing - a single person, facing the camera delivering a message to an audience. * Interview - asking questions of one person. * Discussion / Training - asking questions of two or more people who may be interacting with each other. This is the one book I turn to again and again. Second, make sure your customer (VP, company, etc.) understands what is required to make a video. I got severely burned at a former employer when I was asked to make a training video. My fault. I did a poor job of explaining: * how much time it would take setting up equipment (camera, lights, etc.) * breaking down equipment * actual taping * how much floor space this equipment would take. For music, check out www.opuzz.com http://www.opuzz.com/ . They sell royalty free buy out music at reasonable prices. By the way, like your site. Yeah Canada! All the best, Tom Tom Gosse, aka Irish Hermit [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.irishhermit.com _ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Moon Sent: Tuesday, 05 June, 2007 5:50 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] How to move from Amateur Vlogger to Professional Video Creator?? How to move from Amateur to Professional vlogger? I recently did a vlog of the Relay for Life, Canadian Cancer Society's community fund raiser here in Oshawa. I had friends and coworkers that were involved. http://moon. http://moon.blogspot.com/2007/06/relay-for-life.html blogspot.com/2007/06/relay-for-life.html The link to the vlog was passed around the office and to our head office. It was viewed by one of the VPs and he's asked me to contact him about creating a promotional video to run at our trade show/conference booth. Basically the same as the video linked above, but the video would be of our staff working with the clients and a nice motivating song overlay. So I have a bunch of questions/concerns. 1) This project will not be part of my regular duties and should be billable separately then my regular low pay. How are projects billed? Hourly? For the whole project? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. 2) My computer system is able to handle my vlog at it's 320x240 res, but it'll need some upgrades to handle output to DVD or at least VCD quality. And of course I don't have lights, umbrellas, mics etc etc etc. My old JVC camcorder has issues, my Xacti c40 is okay, but a little low for DVD quality video. If I can upgrade my equipment, I could do a better job. 3) Podcast safe music... I'm gathering that I couldn't use that as overlay within a short promotional video being used at a trade show booth? I was lucky finding that Relay for Life song, 4) Finally... what value should I place on a 3 minute promotional video? I am a little apprehensive going down this road as I never put any thought about being paid for my hobby. With that said, I'd love for this to roll into a new career. :) Thanks folks, Mike http://vlog. http://vlog.mikemoon.net mikemoon.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Congrats Blip.tv!
Way to go on getting funding! Yay! We love you! Love, Mark* http://cheapdatesphilly.blogspot.com
[videoblogging] Re: Rocketboom Sponsorship
looks good Drew, a good clear model for advertisers to buy. I believe that 7.5 seconds is the ideal length, as that is half of fifteen, and agencies can repurpose web ads for TV and vice versa. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today we launched a new sponsorship model with YouTube as our first day's sponsor: http://www.rocketboom.com/sponsorship So far, we have received pretty good feedback, any crits? Sent via CrackBerry
[videoblogging] Re: keep on blipping
Great news. Good luck to the team at Blip...I have appreciated their good work more and more this year. See you on Saturday at Pixelodeon --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://newteevee.com/2007/06/04/indie-supporter-blip-raises-funding/ this is serious good news for Blip. big up to Mike, Charles, Jared, Justin, and Dina. support the creator supporters. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
[videoblogging] Amnesty International
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[videoblogging] Re: Amnesty International
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Re: [videoblogging] Best Practices for Media Aggregators Pixelodeon
Charles, As I understand the robots.txt exclusion, you have to either specify the directory to stay out of, and that would keep all crawlers out (using the disallow instruction), or you have to specify the user agent. I don't think most sites who syndicate an RSS feed are classified or function as user agents - but I could be wrong on this. In any case, I as the content owner would have to know about them, and their specific name to exclude them. And writing and posting a robots.txt file is not available to people who do not manage their hosting or domains, as you indicated. Lisa, Thanks again! I had envisioned the first sentence of each of the numbered priorities as a master list item, and the following sentences as sub-items. I attempted to group related descriptors under a main point, (which should have been bolded) to make it easy to scan at a glance for main criteria followed by details. r On 6/6/07, Lisa Rein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sounds good roxanne :-) btw - I wasn't suggesting a point system at all (um. ick :) -- just a checklist. and really, just a little reformatting, with some links to appropriate docs, as a starting point. after the pixelodeon frenzy, perhaps we can write up a summary and provide some use cases. peace, lisa Lisa, I've added comments inline below. Thank you for your thoughtful comments! Aloha, Rox On 6/5/07, Lisa Rein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Roxanne, snip OK RE: http://www.barefeetstudios.com/aggregation/ Hey this doc looks like a great start -- but could use re-org and a few explanatory sections - in terms of having a summary, lists, etc., to make the spec a little easier to read and understand. I very much appreciate your feedback. FWIW, the html on that page came straight from MS Word - nuf said! The PDF reads a little easier, and yes, there is plenty of room for improvement. Let's see what kind of feedback comes in here over the next 24-48 hours, then I would love to let you place your loving hands on it so we have an improved version for Pixelodeon discussion. Also, I think it's very important to consider this more of a wish list, in the short term, for content owners and aggregators alike (albeit a good starting point for a score card of sorts in the future.) My point being that, to be fair, many of these best practices are actually very complex features that could literally take months or years to implement correctly. I'd like the group to debate this; many feel that there are ample RSS standards in place to accommodate most of what we have proposed. Techies?? Please weigh in on this. I'm not that worried about Mefeedia -- we seemed to have a good score when I went through the little checklist, for the most part, so I am pleased... Congrats.. :-) The idea of a point system has been in the back of my mind too. IMO that would require considerably more work (and agreement) plus a fair-minded panel to rate each aggregator. I think it's a great plan for version 2, if we can get v1 into motion. I also envision creating a master list of aggregators with some sort of indication of pass-fail, so we are on the same page with this idea. I don't expect anyone to score perfect; the idea is to move performance standards forward into tangible form. And the caveats are really meant to both provide wiggle room and cover the nuance of a particular service. For example, a lot of people host at blip. Blip shares movie-based ad revenue but not the display ad revenue that wraps media on the page. (I am pretty sure I am accurate on that.) OTOH, they host (not just aggregate) our media and provide so many value-adds. They also qualify as having a direct relationship with the CO, which also means anything is negotiable. But it was a little confusing going through the checklist, the way it was formatted... so I would be happy to offer my services as spec editor (for a little clean up now, and while making updates in the future) -- so we can add a summary, resources, links to working examples, etc., to make this a nice, professinal looking spec that will have to be taken seriously by businesses and can hopefully become a real pseudo facto standard for years to come. (I'm a w3c spec wonk from years back, if that explains why I would volunteer for such an arduous task. i'm sick. i actually like writing specs :-) You're on! I'll send you raw files off list tomorrow and look forward to your mastery Lisa. When we have those specific details and a clear guidelines for implementation in place, I believe more companies and vloggers will feel better about signing on to support it too. Agreed. Thanks! lisa http://www.mefeedia.com/blog dear
[videoblogging] Re: Locating URL address of video
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, waltwst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me first explain that I am a brand new newbie and my terminology may be totally incorrect - for which I apologize. In any event, I have a web page with lunarpages. I have used FileZilla to transfer some videos to my site. I think (hope)I have correctly opened a file in the file manager with lunarpages with the name of videos to place my videos. It appears from FileZilla that they were properly uploaded. When I open the videos file in my file manager it shows the video as uploaded. I have a program called VPIP that I am trying to use. It requires the URL address of where my video is stored that I have uploaded. I cannot seem to find the URL address of the video I am wanting to place on my page via VPIP. Is there some simple way to determine the exact URL address of my video. I have tried many, many addresses which are not working for whatever reason. Thanks for any help. john After reading a tutorial further on filezilla, it occured to me that I had opened up my video folder in the file manager too soon in the file manager program, that is I had to delete the early entry and file it later under public_html and then wp_content and then videos...Then when I uploaded a video and clicked on the file in file manager in the video folder it showed the url address which I simply copied. It would not show the address under the video folder created as soon as you open the file manager - which I deleted. Again, sorry about the lack of proper jargon but thanks a million for the responses. I am sure I will have several more inquiries as my ultimate objective (about 5 years considering I am computer challenged) is to have a web site to compare to Mr. Hirson. I have not seen Mr. Krenpeanx's site yet but will visit his soon as well. Thanks again
[videoblogging] (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
I expect one just for me Rupert! You, David Howell, Bill, David Meade and whomever else you can find raising a glass or beer, wine, coke, whatever in my honoryou promised, remember? ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
This is cool Rupert. I'd like to enlist your services at our Sunday 1 pm session on Best Practices for Video Aggregation. :-) I'd really like to get some feedback live into the session, and you can help feed questions/comments out to those who aren't there. Aloha, Rox On 6/6/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com
Re: [videoblogging] Best Practices for Media Aggregators Pixelodeon
On 6/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles, As I understand the robots.txt exclusion, you have to either specify the directory to stay out of, and that would keep all crawlers out (using the disallow instruction), or you have to specify the user agent. I don't think most sites who syndicate an RSS feed are classified or function as user agents - but I could be wrong on this. In any case, I as the content owner would have to know about them, and their specific name to exclude them. And writing and posting a robots.txt file is not available to people who do not manage their hosting or domains, as you indicated. Well you can disallow based on user-agent, and I think most spiders are identifiable in this way. The HUGE advantage to the content owner of using robots.txt is that it allows us to maintain a pro-active opt-in or opt-out rather than a reactive having to create an account at every aggregator that ever comes into existence just to claim and then opt-out/in ... over and over and over again ... each time a new aggregator comes online. I think a better requirement for Aggregators might be use a unique and identifiable user-agent when crawling feeds, and honor robots.txt. I'd rather have that 'requirement' made to the Aggregator than forcing a requirement on Content producers to go and sign up at every single site to opt-out. It's also easier for the aggregator. Win-win! :-) Also ... its true that some folks might be using services that don't allow them to alter their robots.txt ... however I really think this is a simple feature we could convince Feedburner to implement in a very short amount of time (restriction based on user-agent). Feedburner is very responsive to this sort of thing and if we all asked for it on their forums I'm sure we'd see some traction very quickly. - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
I'm going to have to seriously try not to push/shove/tackle people in my efforts to make an appearance on twittervlog. :-) I'm going to be movlogging some too I think. My camera phone sucks in comparison, but I want to give it a shot anyway. I'll be tagging mine with pixelodeon2007 (I assume everyone will). ( http://mefeedia.com/tags/pixelodeon2007 ) Is anyone doing the streaming video thing (ala ustream.tv ) ? - Dave On 6/6/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Best Practices for Media Aggregators Pixelodeon
This stuff is a brilliant effort, hats off to all concerned. Here are my initial thoughts upon reading the draft and this mini-discussion about robots.txt: Put some stuff in there about MA's taking reasonable steps to educate themselves, and if necessary seek legal advice, about what alternative licenses such as Creative Commons actually mean in detail. Perhaps try to broaden the options for MAs a bit, at the moment I think it will come across as a bit slanted to them. In practice this means you could change it in ways such as mentioning: MAs whose business model is incompatible with best practice, can still play nice with CO's and get a good rating, by simply going down the 'contact the CO first and do a deal/get them to opt in'. If the CO is opting in, anything is possible. Again this works where the CO's standard license is incompatible with the MA's service. The CO can grant additional rights to the MA, but MA's cannot just assume they have these rights, they must contact the CO and flesh out an agreement. I have mixed feelings about the stuff about advertising revenue. Perhaps it would help to clarify the extend of advertising we are talking about, eg video adverts bolted onto the users content, lots of commercial adverts and the MA being a commercial entity aiming to make most of its money through advertising revenue, should certainly be asked to share revenue, or at least contact CO before using their stuff in such a context. Wheras a few google text ads in the corner of a site thats a non-commercial mashup MA probably shouldnt be lead to believe that all content creators want a cut of their meagre income? This leads on to existing issues with what is classed as 'non-commercial' in creative commons licenses, certainly in my eyes most MAs are commercial, even though plenty have tried to avoid this issue or claim otherwise to date. Theres another issue with creative commons rights, and thats distribution. The guidelines are asking MA's not to rehost feeds or the videos themselves, because that spoils the COs ability to gather accurate stats. But one of the central tenets of Creative Commons licenses is that they are giving people the right to redistribute peoples stuff. Anybody who is currently using a creative commons license, is giving me the right to rehost the videos theyve used the cc license on. And you cant take away that right, indeed you have signalled to me that I am allowed that right, so to try to take it away again in another document, sends mixed messages. Now Im not really sure how many CO's are aware of this, and Im always ready to stand corrected if Ive got it wrong, lets talk about this point if anybody disagree's. Anyway assuming that point is correct, the 'solution' is again to clarify that this only applies if all other conditions in the CC license are met. Most of the MA's we'd seek to change behaviour of with these guidelines, are commercial, and most of their uses of our content is clearly for commercial advantage. So they dont get the creative commons rights granted to them in the first place, so they shouldnt assume they have the right to do anything other than what standard copyright offers. So they should read the guidelines carefully and under most circumstances contact the CO before using their stuff. Anyway sorry for waffling on, hopefully the above ideas could be condensed into a single section that clarifies some basic CC stuff, when the MA should play it safe and contact the CO, what assumptions they should not make. Fits in with stuff explaining how RSS feeds assumed rights are usually intended for end users, viewers, not commercial enterprises taking liberties. In many cases of drawing up guidelines, it can be very beneficial to get more input from the potential violators, industry, to get the balance right and ensure that the guidelines are agreeable to at least someone on the other side, or face the possibility that no MA's will sign up at all. Hwever, apart from blip's commendable input, Im not sure how many 'bad guys come good' out there will be willing to deal with this stuff, I still believe that most do not want to share revenue, and may recieve legal advice that tells them to stay away from the issue, lest they end up learning exactly what creative commons means, and concede too much ground to let their letcherous buisiness strageties reap the profits they seek. See I cant help thinking that too some of them, CO's are just bit to be got for free. The CO's arent the creators of the product, that then has 'value added' by the MA and is sold to the viewer. The viewer is the product, which is sold to the advertiser, and the CO's work is just the bait. Thats certainly one way to look at the traditional model of television, the audience is sold to the advertiser. Big bucks ensue, and sad games of trying to ensure the CO bait creator gets as little of the money as possible. As for the robots.txt thing, Im not in favour of those sorts of
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Practices for Media Aggregators Pixelodeon
On 6/6/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the robots.txt thing, Im not in favour of those sorts of technological measures. The bad guys can just ignore them, and sometimes they could backfire and punish innocent end users who may use some nonstandard client to watch feeds in future. I favour education, giving bad guys less way to claim ignorance about content licensing issues, and giving good guys the ability to judge our intentions via existing technology such as license information being contained within the RSS feed. Well I think you may be mixing two issues. robots.txt isn't meant to enable Media Aggregators (MA) enforcement of licenses. It's meant to enable the Content Owners (CO) to exclude any given MA from accessing the feed. (an opt-out action controlled by the CO rather than the MA) robots.txt wouldn't exclude innocents as it would be configured only to block specific bad actors. Also robots.txt is an 'existing technology' ... I think it pre-dates RSS. :-) Should we (COs) have to be expected to go and register a user account at each of these sites in order to opt-out? Besides being a PAIN IN THE @$$ ... it artificially inflates their 'registered user' stats. I'd much prefer not having to go and register an account over and over again at every single 'bad-actor' site that ever comes into existence. Sure 'bad actors' could ignore robots.txt ... but robots.txt has been around a long time and is already a best practice for spiders/crawlers ... if they are the type to ignore robots.txt they are likely the type to not care one lick what our best practices document says anyway. Remember ... these are things we would like to ask of MAs who want to do right by the COs. I think it's fair to say we'd like you to use a recognizable user-agent when spidering our feeds. Updating the user-agent is far far simpler for MAs than coding an opt-out ... but accomplishes a way for COs to prevent their feed from being used by that MA. (win for the MA) It also relieves the CO of having to register at every single video site that ever comes into existence (win for the CO). It also leverages existing technology best practices that the MAs (and most COs) are already leveraging to some degree. ... All that being said ... yes MAs definitely need to understand licensing and we should encourage their education. :-) - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
Don't worry, Heath, it's already booked in :) Any other personal requests, let me know in the comments Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 6 Jun 2007, at 19:26, Heath wrote: I expect one just for me Rupert! You, David Howell, Bill, David Meade and whomever else you can find raising a glass or beer, wine, coke, whatever in my honoryou promised, remember? ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
quality N93 videos, or better? [ was Re: [videoblogging] (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
Rupert: Those N93 videos have really good quality. Are there any other camera-phones which do quality video? I looked at the 1st video at your vlog: http://twittervlog.blogspot.com It's 56 sec, 3.2 mb size. With todays cellphone infrastructure (e.g., EVDO), that's manageable. I have a Nikon P2 (5M digital camera w/WiFi, which can do video), but it's video-sizes are prohibitive for near live video updates. Like 3 mb for 5 sec video, but it's high quality. I went to a physics conference 1 year ago (last June), did some tests with various video-delivery. I used - cellphone video (like you, as a movlogging solution) near LIVE http://susy06.textamerica.com/ - digital camera w/video (delivered to the conferences video-blog iTunes video-podcast within 15 min of shooting) within 15 min http://susy06.blogspot.com/ - HD video (downsized iPod video delivered to video-blog iTunes video-podcast) within hours http://susy06.blogspot.com/ On Jun 6, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Rupert wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
[videoblogging] Sanyo Xacti Event in San Francisco( June 13th )
Hello video lovers, I'm Tajee, video podcaster from Japan. We will have events to introduce the latest Xacti, a digital movie camera produced by Sanyo. We will also show our software, Xacti Allligator, which makes it a lot easier to publish your video! The newest project with Xacti has started! We will have cool guests, too! They will show us special movies which you have never seen before! ***Special Guests - Jay Dedman (http://momentshowing.net/) - Ryanne Hodson (http://ryanishungry.com/) - Irina Slutsky, GeekentertainmentTV(http://www.geekentertainment.tv/) Don't miss the chance! June 13th Wed, next week! http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/197362/ http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/201150/ (you can come anytime you want) Thank you. Looking forward to seeing you there. Tajee Check this out! http://amino-tajee.com/2007/06/the_latest_xacti_from_sanyopre_1.php Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
[videoblogging] Re: (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
I think we need to sing a little song to Heath while we raise out drinks to him. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry, Heath, it's already booked in :) Any other personal requests, let me know in the comments Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 6 Jun 2007, at 19:26, Heath wrote: I expect one just for me Rupert! You, David Howell, Bill, David Meade and whomever else you can find raising a glass or beer, wine, coke, whatever in my honoryou promised, remember? ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Sanyo Xacti Event in San Francisco( June 13th )
Tajee! You are the only cool guest we need! On Jun 6, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Yukako Tajima wrote: Hello video lovers, I'm Tajee, video podcaster from Japan. We will have events to introduce the latest Xacti, a digital movie camera produced by Sanyo. We will also show our software, Xacti Allligator, which makes it a lot easier to publish your video! The newest project with Xacti has started! We will have cool guests, too! They will show us special movies which you have never seen before! ***Special Guests - Jay Dedman (http://momentshowing.net/) - Ryanne Hodson (http://ryanishungry.com/) - Irina Slutsky, GeekentertainmentTV(http://www.geekentertainment.tv/) Don't miss the chance! June 13th Wed, next week! http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/197362/ http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/201150/ (you can come anytime you want) Thank you. Looking forward to seeing you there. Tajee Check this out! http://amino-tajee.com/2007/06/the_latest_xacti_from_sanyopre_1.php __ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Best Practices for Media Aggregators Pixelodeon
You are right, I mangled 2 different issues. My point about it potentially hampering end-users was wrong because Robots.txt is easy to ignore. This also means I assume those bad actors who dont care would never bother getting their stuff to look at robots.txt in the first place. I completely agree that opt-out sucks and people shouldnt be expected to have to do that, I just fear robots.txt is too easily ignored and so doesnt really solve the problem. What I was thinking of that would potentially harm end users with unusual setups, would be attempts to do something equivalent to robots, but that is actually real enforcement, real technological measures that the outside party cannot ignore. Eg reconfiguring the webserver to block access from certain addresses or those using certain clients to read the feed. So that stuff pushes me back towards technology that MAs can ignore, but good ones will hopefully read. And I much prefer stuff in the RSS feed than the robots idea. When I say its existing technology, I meant its v.likely that these MA sites are already reading your feed. Wheras its unlikely they read your robots.txt, because they arent generally getting your content that way. And it requires additional reading of external files, weheras most of the MA sites probably only ever consume the feed file and nothing else. I have been disappointed to date with how many companies bother to read do something with the creative commons or copyrigt license info that can be put into RSS feeds. But the battle must be to improve this, I think theres more chance of it than getting them to go to the sites read robots files, and which site should they go to anyway - the site that hosts the blog or the site that hosts the video, if different? If its generally accepted that RSS feed metadata on licenses is the way to get MAs to be able to automatically determine what rights they are being given, there is also an argument that most of the scope of the rules we want to set, are outside of Creative commons. Right now, if most MAs read and acted on the CC ifno, it would tell them they cant do much, cos they are commercial (as many people use the cc non-commercial licenses). It seems like we need to be specifying what we may allow commercial MAs to do with the videos. But how would this be based, on the score different MAs get for sticking to the guidelines or not in different areas? What if I want t specifically include all MA's that have no adverts, but exclude all those that do? Oh I dunno, I sure support the aims but when it comes down to this sort of system, my brain ends up exploding and thinking of focussing on general license education the message that any commercial users of videos should always contact the creators before doing anything more than linking to the video. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I think you may be mixing two issues. robots.txt isn't meant to enable Media Aggregators (MA) enforcement of licenses. It's meant to enable the Content Owners (CO) to exclude any given MA from accessing the feed. (an opt-out action controlled by the CO rather than the MA) robots.txt wouldn't exclude innocents as it would be configured only to block specific bad actors. Also robots.txt is an 'existing technology' ... I think it pre-dates RSS. :-) Should we (COs) have to be expected to go and register a user account at each of these sites in order to opt-out? Besides being a PAIN IN THE @$$ ... it artificially inflates their 'registered user' stats. I'd much prefer not having to go and register an account over and over again at every single 'bad-actor' site that ever comes into existence. Sure 'bad actors' could ignore robots.txt ... but robots.txt has been around a long time and is already a best practice for spiders/crawlers ... if they are the type to ignore robots.txt they are likely the type to not care one lick what our best practices document says anyway. Remember ... these are things we would like to ask of MAs who want to do right by the COs. I think it's fair to say we'd like you to use a recognizable user-agent when spidering our feeds. Updating the user-agent is far far simpler for MAs than coding an opt-out ... but accomplishes a way for COs to prevent their feed from being used by that MA. (win for the MA) It also relieves the CO of having to register at every single video site that ever comes into existence (win for the CO). It also leverages existing technology best practices that the MAs (and most COs) are already leveraging to some degree. ... All that being said ... yes MAs definitely need to understand licensing and we should encourage their education. :-) - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
quality N93 videos, or better? [ was Re: [videoblogging] (Almost) Live Video fro
Its still early days for good quality video recording on phones. The main reason I got an N95 was the video quality wifi, although Ive only made proper use of it during videobloggingweek, must get back to it soon. I expect there will be a steady rise in the number of phones offering higher res, good framerate, suitable filesizes, mostly by using mpeg4. But Im not sure how quickly this will happen, or whether it will eventually permeate the lower-priced range. I guess it is inevitable, but I could be wrong. So yeah Id love to hear if there are other phones that have decent video, Ive only really been focussing on the nokia N-series phones, had a pocketpc type phone previously which could do video but it wasnt so great. The noki's the first phone Ive had where the video is good enough to actually use in many situations instead of a dedicated camera. I wouldnt say the experience of editing uploading video via the phone wifi or 3G is perfect yet, but it does work. New issues raise their head once the camera is good enough, like battery life is a pain if doing a sizeable amount of recording/watching with the device. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, B Yen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rupert: Those N93 videos have really good quality. Are there any other camera-phones which do quality video? I looked at the 1st video at your vlog: http://twittervlog.blogspot.com It's 56 sec, 3.2 mb size. With todays cellphone infrastructure (e.g., EVDO), that's manageable. I have a Nikon P2 (5M digital camera w/WiFi, which can do video), but it's video-sizes are prohibitive for near live video updates. Like 3 mb for 5 sec video, but it's high quality. I went to a physics conference 1 year ago (last June), did some tests with various video-delivery. I used - cellphone video (like you, as a movlogging solution) near LIVE http://susy06.textamerica.com/ - digital camera w/video (delivered to the conferences video-blog iTunes video-podcast within 15 min of shooting) within 15 min http://susy06.blogspot.com/ - HD video (downsized iPod video delivered to video-blog iTunes video-podcast) within hours http://susy06.blogspot.com/ On Jun 6, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Rupert wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Sanyo Xacti Event in San Francisco( June 13th )
Hey Tajee, Wish I could be there, but Tokyo is so far away. Sounds like a great event. I saw a dude at the Apple Store's recent podcast summit with a sleek black Xacti. Is this the new model? Anyhow, perhaps some kind soul will make and share a video of this event. Thanks, Scott Lockman http://tokyocalling.org On 6/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tajee! You are the only cool guest we need! On Jun 6, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Yukako Tajima wrote: Hello video lovers, I'm Tajee, video podcaster from Japan. We will have events to introduce the latest Xacti, a digital movie camera produced by Sanyo. We will also show our software, Xacti Allligator, which makes it a lot easier to publish your video! The newest project with Xacti has started! We will have cool guests, too! They will show us special movies which you have never seen before! ***Special Guests - Jay Dedman (http://momentshowing.net/) - Ryanne Hodson (http://ryanishungry.com/) - Irina Slutsky, GeekentertainmentTV(http://www.geekentertainment.tv/) Don't miss the chance! June 13th Wed, next week! http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/197362/ http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/201150/ (you can come anytime you want) Thank you. Looking forward to seeing you there. Tajee Check this out! http://amino-tajee.com/2007/06/the_latest_xacti_from_sanyopre_1.php __ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: quality N93 videos, or better? [ was Re: [videoblogging] (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
Hi B Thanks. Very interesting about your conference. Looking forward to checking out your different sites when I'm less panicked about getting on the plane. The N93 that I use does video at twice the resolution of the video you saw, which was at 320x240 - I often shoot at 640x480 - slightly larger file sizes, but still not bad. The N95 also does high quality video at the same resolutions, but it compresses with H264, so better, smaller and quicker. The N93 uses a straight MP4 codec. And it doesn't do Fast Start, which is a pain. But I think it's easier to use as a video camera, because it has a flip out screen and a lens on the side with optical zoom, whereas the N95 just looks like a regular phone with a lens on the back (no opt zoom). Both N93 and N95 are fantastic mini-computers - with wifi and lots of apps. N95 has GPS. The Treo also does good quality video - see http://taoofdavid.com/ - though i think David's been cursing the Treo a little on Twitter. Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 6 Jun 2007, at 21:54, B Yen wrote: Rupert: Those N93 videos have really good quality. Are there any other camera-phones which do quality video? I looked at the 1st video at your vlog: http://twittervlog.blogspot.com It's 56 sec, 3.2 mb size. With todays cellphone infrastructure (e.g., EVDO), that's manageable. I have a Nikon P2 (5M digital camera w/WiFi, which can do video), but it's video-sizes are prohibitive for near live video updates. Like 3 mb for 5 sec video, but it's high quality. I went to a physics conference 1 year ago (last June), did some tests with various video-delivery. I used - cellphone video (like you, as a movlogging solution) near LIVE http://susy06.textamerica.com/ - digital camera w/video (delivered to the conferences video-blog iTunes video-podcast within 15 min of shooting) within 15 min http://susy06.blogspot.com/ - HD video (downsized iPod video delivered to video-blog iTunes video-podcast) within hours http://susy06.blogspot.com/ On Jun 6, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Rupert wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Practices for Media Aggregators Pixelodeon
On 6/6/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point about it potentially hampering end-users was wrong because Robots.txt is easy to ignore. This also means I assume those bad actors who dont care would never bother getting their stuff to look at robots.txt in the first place. I completely agree that opt-out sucks and people shouldnt be expected to have to do that, I just fear robots.txt is too easily ignored and so doesnt really solve the problem. True. It is easy to ignore ... but it's also easy to use and very commonly used already. If only MAs would identify themselves in the user-agent we could use this as a CO-owned opt-out mechanism. We can basically ask for them to do this, or ask for them to create a user-account based opt-out feature on their site. My instinct is that if our best practices document cant inspire an MA to bother to identify themselves in their user-agent ... it isn't going to inspire them to code up a whole user-opt-out feature. (setting your user-agent is REALLY easy to do). What I was thinking of that would potentially harm end users with unusual setups, would be attempts to do something equivalent to robots, but that is actually real enforcement, real technological measures that the outside party cannot ignore. Eg reconfiguring the webserver to block access from certain addresses or those using certain clients to read the feed. Yeah we want to avoid that sort of thing naturally. I think (Rox?) that this best practices document is a sort of guidelines for parties that want to get along. So yes I agree that we don't want to define some sort of technical blocking or enforcement scheme ... but rather offer guidelines to the parties that say here's how we can best get along. Asking MAs to identify themselves in user-agents and respect robots.txt is merely asking them to abide by best practices that honestly have already been in place. And I believe most feed spiders do have the functionality if not the practice of honoring robots.txt. To me it seems the mutually-least-painful option. For MAs it should be REALLY easy to comply with and for COs it prevents us from having to use the system we dislike in order to opt-out (each and every time another one comes around). So that stuff pushes me back towards technology that MAs can ignore, but good ones will hopefully read. And I much prefer stuff in the RSS feed than the robots idea. Yeah, but again now we're getting into licensing rather than opt-out. I agree that there should totally be an expectation to read and honor the license information in the RSS feed. But site-based opt-out cant really happen in the feed. When I say its existing technology, I meant its v.likely that these MA sites are already reading your feed. Wheras its unlikely they read your robots.txt, because they arent generally getting your content that way. Hmm. Are you sure? I thought most of them operated as a spider ... and most of those now-a-days have robots.txt check out-of-the-box. In anycase it would be very simple to implement. I have been disappointed to date with how many companies bother to read do something with the creative commons or copyrigt license info that can be put into RSS feeds. But the battle must be to improve this, I think theres more chance of it than getting them to go to the sites read robots files, and which site should they go to anyway - the site that hosts the blog or the site that hosts the video, if different? Yeah ... but I'm not sure the robots.txt file can really help in the how do we get people to respect our license discussion .. thats different than just how can we ensure COs can opt-out from any given site. (regardless as to how good they are at license compliance). -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Practices for Media Aggregators Pixelodeon
This is a great discussion although some of you can type wa-a-a-y better than I can which is why I use bullets and brevity. Please allow me to digest some of this, and Lisa and I will figure out how to condense it down. Keep it coming! I hope we can basically get something out the door, then let the marketplace chew on it, and then rest knowing we've done what we can. As stated, we have no enforcement powers but we haven't made it easy to have influence. That is my goal with this document. I will take with me on the plane to work on, so please keep the comments coming! Aloha, Rox On 6/6/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/6/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point about it potentially hampering end-users was wrong because Robots.txt is easy to ignore. This also means I assume those bad actors who dont care would never bother getting their stuff to look at robots.txt in the first place. I completely agree that opt-out sucks and people shouldnt be expected to have to do that, I just fear robots.txt is too easily ignored and so doesnt really solve the problem. True. It is easy to ignore ... but it's also easy to use and very commonly used already. If only MAs would identify themselves in the user-agent we could use this as a CO-owned opt-out mechanism. We can basically ask for them to do this, or ask for them to create a user-account based opt-out feature on their site. My instinct is that if our best practices document cant inspire an MA to bother to identify themselves in their user-agent ... it isn't going to inspire them to code up a whole user-opt-out feature. (setting your user-agent is REALLY easy to do). What I was thinking of that would potentially harm end users with unusual setups, would be attempts to do something equivalent to robots, but that is actually real enforcement, real technological measures that the outside party cannot ignore. Eg reconfiguring the webserver to block access from certain addresses or those using certain clients to read the feed. Yeah we want to avoid that sort of thing naturally. I think (Rox?) that this best practices document is a sort of guidelines for parties that want to get along. So yes I agree that we don't want to define some sort of technical blocking or enforcement scheme ... but rather offer guidelines to the parties that say here's how we can best get along. Asking MAs to identify themselves in user-agents and respect robots.txt is merely asking them to abide by best practices that honestly have already been in place. And I believe most feed spiders do have the functionality if not the practice of honoring robots.txt. To me it seems the mutually-least-painful option. For MAs it should be REALLY easy to comply with and for COs it prevents us from having to use the system we dislike in order to opt-out (each and every time another one comes around). So that stuff pushes me back towards technology that MAs can ignore, but good ones will hopefully read. And I much prefer stuff in the RSS feed than the robots idea. Yeah, but again now we're getting into licensing rather than opt-out. I agree that there should totally be an expectation to read and honor the license information in the RSS feed. But site-based opt-out cant really happen in the feed. When I say its existing technology, I meant its v.likely that these MA sites are already reading your feed. Wheras its unlikely they read your robots.txt, because they arent generally getting your content that way. Hmm. Are you sure? I thought most of them operated as a spider ... and most of those now-a-days have robots.txt check out-of-the-box. In anycase it would be very simple to implement. I have been disappointed to date with how many companies bother to read do something with the creative commons or copyrigt license info that can be put into RSS feeds. But the battle must be to improve this, I think theres more chance of it than getting them to go to the sites read robots files, and which site should they go to anyway - the site that hosts the blog or the site that hosts the video, if different? Yeah ... but I'm not sure the robots.txt file can really help in the how do we get people to respect our license discussion .. thats different than just how can we ensure COs can opt-out from any given site. (regardless as to how good they are at license compliance). -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com
Re: quality N93 videos, or better? [ was Re: [videoblogging] (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
On Jun 6, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Rupert wrote: Hi B Thanks. Very interesting about your conference. Looking forward to checking out your different sites when I'm less panicked about getting on the plane. I blogged live over Greenland, on my Lufthansa flight from Frankfurt to Los Angeles (using Boeings satellite internet Connexion): http://solareclipse.textamerica.com [ note the techno-geeks I met at Frankfurt airport, we were using the local WiFi networks ] ..on the way back from Egypt for my solar eclipse trip last March/ 2006. Incredibly, I was able to blog my way around Egypt..Cairo to Sallum (Egypt/Libya border) to Dahab (Red Sea). Get this: there was a hole-in-the-wall Internet Cafe in Sallum..sharing bandwidth over a dialup connection! Dahab had a hi-speed Internet Cafe. The world is getting more interconnected, if I can blog the entire way thru a 3rd world country like Egypt then... More info here: http://www.caltechscience.com/eclipse/secl06/secl06.html Griffith Park (huge fire recently) is right next to AFI, you might want to take a hike up there see if you can vlog a hike. The N93 that I use does video at twice the resolution of the video you saw, which was at 320x240 - I often shoot at 640x480 - slightly larger file sizes, but still not bad. The N95 also does high quality video at the same resolutions, but it compresses with H264, so better, smaller and quicker. The N93 uses a straight MP4 codec. And it doesn't do Fast Start, which is a pain. But I think it's easier to use as a video camera, because it has a flip out screen and a lens on the side with optical zoom, whereas the N95 just looks like a regular phone with a lens on the back (no opt zoom). Both N93 and N95 are fantastic mini-computers - with wifi and lots of apps. N95 has GPS. The Treo also does good quality video - see http://taoofdavid.com/ - though i think David's been cursing the Treo a little on Twitter. I use a Treo 650 myself (2 yr old), the quality is good. Not as good as your N93. I just got back from the Baja 500 offroad race, here are some samples: http://07baja500.blogspot.com http://07baja500.blip.tv [ Baja is challenging, since there is no conventional communications infrastructure in the boonies. I use a satellite-DSL equipped van, setup my own local WiFi hotspot. That's how I get those race videos up to the blog, as the race cars whiz by ] I live only 10 miles from Pixelodeon, but unfortunately I have to be out of town for another wacky offroad race. You can watch my vlogging (LIVE Same-Day) at: http://corracing.blogspot.com Otherwise, I'd be there to network with other vloggers. I did make an entry in the Pixelodeon wiki about my blogs. BY Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 6 Jun 2007, at 21:54, B Yen wrote: Rupert: Those N93 videos have really good quality. Are there any other camera-phones which do quality video? I looked at the 1st video at your vlog: http://twittervlog.blogspot.com It's 56 sec, 3.2 mb size. With todays cellphone infrastructure (e.g., EVDO), that's manageable. I have a Nikon P2 (5M digital camera w/WiFi, which can do video), but it's video-sizes are prohibitive for near live video updates. Like 3 mb for 5 sec video, but it's high quality. I went to a physics conference 1 year ago (last June), did some tests with various video-delivery. I used - cellphone video (like you, as a movlogging solution) near LIVE http://susy06.textamerica.com/ - digital camera w/video (delivered to the conferences video-blog iTunes video-podcast within 15 min of shooting) within 15 min http://susy06.blogspot.com/ - HD video (downsized iPod video delivered to video-blog iTunes video-podcast) within hours http://susy06.blogspot.com/ On Jun 6, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Rupert wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and
[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging Flashmeetings
Ifsomeone else who has a booking account wants to continue, There is another FlashMeeting server that is open for use by anyone. It is at at the Open University's OpenLearn LabSpace: http://labspace.open.ac.uk/ where you can register (upper right of the page) and then learn about and use FlashMeeting (lower left of the page). There are tutorials and instructions on using the FlashMeeting system. The second step is to announce your videobloggerlicious FlashMeetings here on the Yahoo group and by editing the VoxMedia Wiki at: http://www.voxmedia.org/wiki/Videoblogger_Videoconferences John John Leeke www.HistoricHomeWorks.com
Re: [videoblogging] Sanyo Xacti Event in San Francisco( June 13th )
hey scott the event is in SF but i guess u are in tokyo? On 6/6/07, Scott Lockman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Tajee, Wish I could be there, but Tokyo is so far away. Sounds like a great event. I saw a dude at the Apple Store's recent podcast summit with a sleek black Xacti. Is this the new model? Anyhow, perhaps some kind soul will make and share a video of this event. Thanks, Scott Lockman http://tokyocalling.org On 6/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] tim%40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Tajee! You are the only cool guest we need! On Jun 6, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Yukako Tajima wrote: Hello video lovers, I'm Tajee, video podcaster from Japan. We will have events to introduce the latest Xacti, a digital movie camera produced by Sanyo. We will also show our software, Xacti Allligator, which makes it a lot easier to publish your video! The newest project with Xacti has started! We will have cool guests, too! They will show us special movies which you have never seen before! ***Special Guests - Jay Dedman (http://momentshowing.net/) - Ryanne Hodson (http://ryanishungry.com/) - Irina Slutsky, GeekentertainmentTV(http://www.geekentertainment.tv/) Don't miss the chance! June 13th Wed, next week! http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/197362/ http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/201150/ (you can come anytime you want) Thank you. Looking forward to seeing you there. Tajee Check this out! http://amino-tajee.com/2007/06/the_latest_xacti_from_sanyopre_1.php __ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
quality N93 videos, or better? [ was Re: [videoblogging] (Almost) Live Video fro
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the N95 can play h264 but I think it only records normal mpeg4. But its late so maybe Ive got confused. I should be sure as I have the N95, but Im not, oops! Cheers Steve Elbows The N95 also does high quality video at the same resolutions, but it compresses with H264, so better, smaller and quicker. The N93 uses a straight MP4 codec. And it doesn't do Fast Start, which is a pain. But I think it's easier to use as a video camera, because it has a flip out screen and a lens on the side with optical zoom, whereas the N95 just looks like a regular phone with a lens on the back (no opt zoom). Both N93 and N95 are fantastic mini-computers - with wifi and lots of apps. N95 has GPS. The Treo also does good quality video - see http://taoofdavid.com/ - though i think David's been cursing the Treo a little on Twitter. Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 6 Jun 2007, at 21:54, B Yen wrote: Rupert: Those N93 videos have really good quality. Are there any other camera-phones which do quality video? I looked at the 1st video at your vlog: http://twittervlog.blogspot.com It's 56 sec, 3.2 mb size. With todays cellphone infrastructure (e.g., EVDO), that's manageable. I have a Nikon P2 (5M digital camera w/WiFi, which can do video), but it's video-sizes are prohibitive for near live video updates. Like 3 mb for 5 sec video, but it's high quality. I went to a physics conference 1 year ago (last June), did some tests with various video-delivery. I used - cellphone video (like you, as a movlogging solution) near LIVE http://susy06.textamerica.com/ - digital camera w/video (delivered to the conferences video-blog iTunes video-podcast within 15 min of shooting) within 15 min http://susy06.blogspot.com/ - HD video (downsized iPod video delivered to video-blog iTunes video-podcast) within hours http://susy06.blogspot.com/ On Jun 6, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Rupert wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Free DivX pro download
Divx is one of the sponsors of Pixelodeon...and they've given us links to their pro version (20$). might as well check it out if you're interested. Jay _ Here are the download links for a free copy of DivX Pro: For Windows: http://www.divx.com/dff/ For Mac: http://www.divx.com/dff/?version=mac For your friends to receive their free DivX Pro serial number they must install the software; just follow the instructions on the page… Also, depending on the response this will only be available for a few days. That's it! Enjoy DivX Pro! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] I'm proud of these..
These video's will never be the most watched or win an award...but damn it I don't care, I vlog because I can, I vlog because I want to tell stories and sometimes those stories are just me and my life, it's a moment in time that I will take with me forever and I just want to share that...personal story telling.gotta love it maybe;-) If you want go to the site and check them out http://batmangeek.com vlogging professionally and vlogging for yourself is not mutually exclusive. each scratches a different itch and offer their own challenges. love it for sure Heath. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
Re: [videoblogging] Sanyo Xacti Event in San Francisco( June 13th )
Hello Irina, Finally a question, even I can answer. Yes, I am in Tokyo. thanks, Scott On 6/7/07, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey scott the event is in SF but i guess u are in tokyo? . Thanks, Scott [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: 1 pm SAT not SUN Best Practices for Media Aggregators Pixelodeon
DATE CHANGE: I got the time wrong folks. It will be Saturday at 1 pm not Sunday in the DIY theatre. Convert that time to your time zone here: http://urltea.com/pv0 R On 6/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a great discussion although some of you can type wa-a-a-y better than I can which is why I use bullets and brevity. Please allow me to digest some of this, and Lisa and I will figure out how to condense it down. Keep it coming! I hope we can basically get something out the door, then let the marketplace chew on it, and then rest knowing we've done what we can. As stated, we have no enforcement powers but we haven't made it easy to have influence. That is my goal with this document. I will take with me on the plane to work on, so please keep the comments coming! Aloha, Rox On 6/6/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/6/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point about it potentially hampering end-users was wrong because Robots.txt is easy to ignore. This also means I assume those bad actors who dont care would never bother getting their stuff to look at robots.txt in the first place. I completely agree that opt-out sucks and people shouldnt be expected to have to do that, I just fear robots.txt is too easily ignored and so doesnt really solve the problem. True. It is easy to ignore ... but it's also easy to use and very commonly used already. If only MAs would identify themselves in the user-agent we could use this as a CO-owned opt-out mechanism. We can basically ask for them to do this, or ask for them to create a user-account based opt-out feature on their site. My instinct is that if our best practices document cant inspire an MA to bother to identify themselves in their user-agent ... it isn't going to inspire them to code up a whole user-opt-out feature. (setting your user-agent is REALLY easy to do). What I was thinking of that would potentially harm end users with unusual setups, would be attempts to do something equivalent to robots, but that is actually real enforcement, real technological measures that the outside party cannot ignore. Eg reconfiguring the webserver to block access from certain addresses or those using certain clients to read the feed. Yeah we want to avoid that sort of thing naturally. I think (Rox?) that this best practices document is a sort of guidelines for parties that want to get along. So yes I agree that we don't want to define some sort of technical blocking or enforcement scheme ... but rather offer guidelines to the parties that say here's how we can best get along. Asking MAs to identify themselves in user-agents and respect robots.txt is merely asking them to abide by best practices that honestly have already been in place. And I believe most feed spiders do have the functionality if not the practice of honoring robots.txt. To me it seems the mutually-least-painful option. For MAs it should be REALLY easy to comply with and for COs it prevents us from having to use the system we dislike in order to opt-out (each and every time another one comes around). So that stuff pushes me back towards technology that MAs can ignore, but good ones will hopefully read. And I much prefer stuff in the RSS feed than the robots idea. Yeah, but again now we're getting into licensing rather than opt-out. I agree that there should totally be an expectation to read and honor the license information in the RSS feed. But site-based opt-out cant really happen in the feed. When I say its existing technology, I meant its v.likely that these MA sites are already reading your feed. Wheras its unlikely they read your robots.txt, because they arent generally getting your content that way. Hmm. Are you sure? I thought most of them operated as a spider ... and most of those now-a-days have robots.txt check out-of-the-box. In anycase it would be very simple to implement. I have been disappointed to date with how many companies bother to read do something with the creative commons or copyrigt license info that can be put into RSS feeds. But the battle must be to improve this, I think theres more chance of it than getting them to go to the sites read robots files, and which site should they go to anyway - the site that hosts the blog or the site that hosts the video, if different? Yeah ... but I'm not sure the robots.txt file can really help in the how do we get people to respect our license discussion .. thats different than just how can we ensure COs can opt-out from any given site. (regardless as to how good they are at license compliance). -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the
[videoblogging] Puppets and Podcasting
Hi everybody, I am wondering if anyone in the group knows of video podcasts using puppets? I know of several and do a weekly round up of new episodes in my blog each week - you can check out this week's round-up at http://puppetvision.blogspot.com/2007/06/weekly-puppet-web-series-round-up.html - but I am always on the hunt for more. I keep a list in the sidebar of my blog at http://puppetvision.blogspot.com but if anyone has leads or knows of ones that I don't I would love to hear about them. Thanks! -- Andrew Young Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.angrypuppets.com Blog: puppetvision.blogspot.com _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
I will have MacBookPro all equipped, and want to be respectful (hehe) of the bandwidth other's may be wanting on other sessions. And Note this correction: it is SAT at 1 pm, not Sunday! C U Soon! Rox On 6/6/07, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we need to sing a little song to Heath while we raise out drinks to him. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry, Heath, it's already booked in :) Any other personal requests, let me know in the comments Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 6 Jun 2007, at 19:26, Heath wrote: I expect one just for me Rupert! You, David Howell, Bill, David Meade and whomever else you can find raising a glass or beer, wine, coke, whatever in my honoryou promised, remember? ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com
Re: [videoblogging] Puppets and Podcasting
Andrew, I'm not currently, but I have been looking into it as I am a big fan of puppetry. Jim Henson and Mummenschanz were huge influences on me as a kid. I really don't know much about making foam puppets though. Does anyone here know much about that and maybe could point me to a website which gives instructions? On 6/6/07, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, I am wondering if anyone in the group knows of video podcasts using puppets? I know of several and do a weekly round up of new episodes in my blog each week - you can check out this week's round-up at http://puppetvision.blogspot.com/2007/06/weekly-puppet-web-series-round-up.html - but I am always on the hunt for more. I keep a list in the sidebar of my blog at http://puppetvision.blogspot.com but if anyone has leads or knows of ones that I don't I would love to hear about them. Thanks! -- Andrew Young Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] andrew%40angrypuppets.com Web: www.angrypuppets.com Blog: puppetvision.blogspot.com __ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com -- Daniel J. Geduld Audio: http://www.everyonesvoice.com Video: http://www.flyingsquidstudios.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Puppets and Podcasting
I was about to send you a link to http://bear-town.com/ :-) But then I saw your name. -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ All the Vlogging News on One Page http://vlograzor.com/ On 6/6/07, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, I am wondering if anyone in the group knows of video podcasts using puppets? I know of several and do a weekly round up of new episodes in my blog each week - you can check out this week's round-up at http://puppetvision.blogspot.com/2007/06/weekly-puppet-web-series-round-up.html - but I am always on the hunt for more. I keep a list in the sidebar of my blog at http://puppetvision.blogspot.com but if anyone has leads or knows of ones that I don't I would love to hear about them. Thanks! -- Andrew Young Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.angrypuppets.com Blog: puppetvision.blogspot.com
[videoblogging] Flying while Muslim
While organizing Pixelodeon, Ive had a chance to see a lot of work on YouTube. The signal to noise is definitely high..but there are some amazingly creative videos. Its interesting to see how the amount of traffic that good videos generate really spark conversation. Relationships are growing between viewers and creator. Anyway...here's one i really like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nolNcJ1G7w Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
[videoblogging] Re: I'm proud of these..
Oh, I know Jay and I am not knocking prosnot in the leastI was just proud of these because of what they were...simple stories with people I have come to know.all good jay, btw hope to meet you someday, maybe voggercon 08? ;-) or the vloggies... Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These video's will never be the most watched or win an award...but damn it I don't care, I vlog because I can, I vlog because I want to tell stories and sometimes those stories are just me and my life, it's a moment in time that I will take with me forever and I just want to share that...personal story telling.gotta love it maybe;- ) If you want go to the site and check them out http://batmangeek.com vlogging professionally and vlogging for yourself is not mutually exclusive. each scratches a different itch and offer their own challenges. love it for sure Heath. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Practices for Media Aggregators Pixelodeon
I can't wait for this session Roxanne. So glad I'll get to be there. i've been talking about revlogging ettiquette issues as I've called them from the very start of the vlogging space. For example: http://mmeiser.com/wiki/index.php/Mike%27s_guide_to_re-vlogging_ettiquette That's from about June 2005. Two whole years ago now. It's rough, but an early predicessor to both your guide and blips guide. I hope you find it useful. I could talk endlessly about web based disintermediation. I've got so many 'talking points on the issue it isn't even funny. Personally, I think this is an ettiquette issue on some level. Like email ettiquette or internet ettiquette, but to say that's all it is would be a disservice to us all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nettiquette We cannot anticipate what innovations will happen tomorrow so no set of rules can be made lest we become like the traditional media industries and create a permission based culture where innovators have to ask permission to innovate... as is clearly happening with Slingbox, Tivo, the VCR, and so many innovations in that space. Since we don't know what miraculous technology will be made tomorrow we can only look at what's here today, Network 2.0, dabble, myheavy, Veoh, Democracy, iTunes and of course mefeedia and create best practices or guidelines that illustrate the most benificial practices, and in doing so we can encourage 3rd parties to serve our space (instead of just partnering with dominant players like youtube), and help them serve it well. Ultimately the success and vitality of the open vlogosphere depends on as many intremediaries and tools like digg podcasts, democracy, itunes, search, remixers, trackers as possible. It's not just search any more like when google started. It's tag tracking (technoratti tags), subscription management (bloglines.com), meme tracking (techememe.com), bubbling up (digg.com), conversation tracking (co.mments.com), platforms for sharing and collaboration (spinxpress), remixing, playlist creation (webjay), social discovery (last.fm) and millions of other possibilities. They litterally are litterally endless. What's more these services that serve THIS ecosystem... the open ecosystem... and not simply youtube or myspace or some other industry leader... these are what will call this space to grow. The bottom line is the search space is exploding. It's becoming more and more social, more human, and the key to vitality in our space is that these roads come to our front doors. (If I got anything from vloggercon 2006) it's that the biggest fears of videobloggers is that the roads will stop coming to their front door... that Apple TV or the next product from apple, or nokia... will simply cut a deal with youtube and cut RSS 2.0, open standards and hence all of US out of the mix. These services and these standards are vital to this space, because they are the roads, the sidwalks, the public spaces for interaction, and the interstate highways that keep the us connected not only to each other, but to our audiences and millions of people world wide. Anyway... so, I guess this is to say... this issue is my first love. Can't wait untill your session at Pixelodeon. BTW, about the robot.txt debate. Robot.txt is really cool and useful, but it was never meant to deal with RSS syndicated media. Ultimately I think the best tools we have are creative commons. Guidelines are guidelines, but it all comes down to the licenses with which we licensce our content. Not to in anyway downplay the importance of this debate and creating guidelines, but innovators don't often listen to best practices but everyone listens to the law. The success of everything from opensource to remix culture all stems from the legal foundations like the GNU/GPL (general public license) and Creative Commons licensces. This licensces are the foundations for these huge cultural collaborations. They create the space for it. Podcasting with all it's podsafe music could not exist without creative commons licenses. Without the creative commons to back it up, podsafe is just a hollow word. In fact we see this time and again with traditional industries like the music industry. It appears schizophrenic because they lack any aptitude and understanding for the new copy left world. One day they're shelling out big bucks for hip hop artists in Atlanta to include their mainstream artists in mix tapes, and the next the RIAA is leading a raid with the FBI to bust these same hip hop artists for the exact sort of promotional activity they've been paying them for. Why? Because the marketing people are saying we love your mix tapes! but there's no licensce, no copy left legal foundation to back it up. What we're talking about ultimately rests on top of these licenses. Our best practices must work with these licenses. They must work together. If you license your work Creative Commons Share-alike, commercial you can't tell an aggregator not to put ads on it.
[videoblogging] 5 word Webby speech
I uploaded a copy of my 5 word Webby speech (and an explanation of it) http://www.lifestudent.com/hub/2007/06/06/my-5-word-speech/ After Host Rob Corddry's endorsement of my hugs, I became *THE* guy to hug for the rest of the night. It was awesome! What an amazing time I had! (bummer they broke the awards into 2 nights...would have been cool to see the rest) -halcyon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
Crap Rupert. You suck. :) You make me miss all the things about the first time I got a digital camera. Cameraphones never panned out for me (because cellular companies suck, not the technology), but sooner or later I'm going to have to get an Nokia N95. You're litterally living in the future. A future where video clips provide a telepresncial sense of community, time and space... like looking out the window or office door... video will be just another facet of everyday communications experience. I can only dream of the day when I go to an event and the majority of people are live blogging it via a combination of video, photo, and text devices via ubiquitous wifi... god knows cellular carriers will never pull their heads out of their a**es :) See you in LA rupert. -Mike mmeiser.com/blog mefeedia.com On 6/6/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] (Almost) Live Video from Pixelodeon
Speaking of aggregation issues I expressly forbid the use of my person in video or photo without my prior written consent. :) Boyaa! Privacy is so dead already. We should all freak out. :) -Mike mmeiser.com/blog mefeedia.com On 6/6/07, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is cool Rupert. I'd like to enlist your services at our Sunday 1 pm session on Best Practices for Video Aggregation. :-) I'd really like to get some feedback live into the session, and you can help feed questions/comments out to those who aren't there. Aloha, Rox On 6/6/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you not lucky enough to come to Pixelodeon this weekend, I'll be shooting as many short moments as I can and posting them immediately to http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ My feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ (nb - this is different from my fatgirlinohio feed) I'll shoot (and cut if I need to) in my Nokia phone at good resolution, and then I'll post it straight from the phone using the Pixelodeon wifi. If you want me to focus on something more or less, please leave comments. I'll try and get as wide a range of stuff as possible, and try never to bore you. And I'll be giving a presentation on how to Movlog with the eminent David Howell at 4pm on Saturday. I started Twittervlog as an experiment in videoblogging week, then carried it on - and in the last 2 months, I've shot, cut posted 70 videos direct from my phone. I wanted to break through all my old worries about time, production values, structure and formality and just post more stuff that inspired me in my day-to-day life. It's worked because it's so amazingly easy and quick to catch, cut and send. It's not polished - it's rough and ready, but it's immediate and real. It's also changing a lot in my life - I'm paying more attention to the world around me, and I'm in contact with a lot more people on a daily basis, including a lot of you that I knew less well before - even though I'm contributing less on this list. I really recommend it to anybody who wants to vlog more but finds it too daunting or time-consuming. Cut loose. Forget rules. Rough ready ultramobile video is the new punk rock ;) Rupert http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian 808-384-5554 http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com Yahoo! Groups Links
