[videoblogging] Re: your thoughts on tapes vs HD?
I've used DV tapes, SD Memory Card with Xacti and have a JVC HD Camcorder. Tape Advantages: In terms of quality the DV tapes have HD footage beat in terms of quality and a wee bit more flexibility with low light levels. Tape Disadvantage: The time it takes to convert it to digital and then you can start working with the footage. Also the amount of tapes and the available hard drive space is going to mount up. You could save the raw footage to DVD. HD Camcorder Advantages I'm using a basic level JVC HD Camcorder so the newer models might be different. Cost savings on tape purchase is a big one. I can record 7 hours on a 30GB hard drive at high quality. In decent light the video quality is just slightly below DV tape. Fairly easy to transfer to computer for editing - with a huge exception. HD Disadvantage: In low light it sucks. Also it is a pain to figure out ways to convert (in JVC) case. For the model I have I either have to rename the file extension "MOD to MPG" then use MPEG Streamclip to de-interlace the video. Or I save it as a DVD and de-interlace and copy to the file format I need. Depending of the skill level of the users it can get complicated. You will use a lot of storage space or you have the option of saving on DVD or your computer. I really want a good hard drive camcorder with is flexible with light quality. I'm not sure that I've seen that happen yet. I'm not going back to tape but I might have to wait until the technology catches up to my needs. My two cents, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogpsot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Deirdre Straughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's the sitch: > > I am trying to get every office I deal with at Sun (6 - 10 sites worldwide) > to have a videocamera they can use to capture presentations etc. which can > then be edited and re-used for sharing knowledge, training, etc. Usually the > raw footage will be sent to me for editing, posting, and making into DVDs. > That last point is important: I need good enough quality somewhere that a > DVD is going to look reasonable (especially considering that filming will > usually take place in less than optimum conditions); highly compressed MPG > may not be good enough. > > One problem we've already run into is how to ship around large amounts of > raw footage: these talks run 45 minutes up to 3 hours, and an hour of raw DV > AVI = about 12 GB. Even Sun doesn't have the bandwidth for that to be a fast > transfer, and I certainly don't have it at home. > > My gut feeling is that the best solution is MiniDV - tapes are easier to > mail around than hard disks. But I'm willing to be told otherwise. I don't > know the state of the art in HD-based camcorders these days - what do they > compress into? How big are the resulting files (per minute)? > > Any thoughts/advice/pointers will be welcome! > > > -- > best regards, > Deirdré Straughan > > living & travelling in Italy > (and other Countries Beginning with I) > www.beginningwithi.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
[videoblogging] not your average gear question...
so good to see many of you at the winnies last weekend. props to irina and crew! anyhoo, it turns out that my bf's son (6 yrs old) is a filmmaker in the making. i don't think he knew it either before this weekend but boy did we have the imovie adventure! i really want to get him a video camera for xmas. any suggestions for a simple kid-friendly camera that is compatible w PC and mac for import? xoxo -- Micki Krimmel mickipedia.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Show in A Box...hicupp? Problems copy paste from Blip
Thanks for the info! I can't say I'm familiar with WordPress, but I'll gladly mess around with stuff until I find out what works... I have a lot of projects I'd like to get up and out there, so I'm definitely open to what people's thoughts are on the best delivery systems (not to mention marketing, monetizing, etc., but first things first). Chris --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So here's the Show In A Box story: > For a long time we worked on how to easily get people videoblogging > for free - http://freevlog.org > All the while, we were learning to use tools with more flexibility, > namely, Wordpress. Also for years now we've recognized that there are > people with great video content that might be able to make their work > sustainable if they had the tools. So we started putting things > together and trying stuff out - first at http://havemoneywillvlog and > then at http://ryanishungry.com and http://swajana.com . Then we > decided to use some of the money we raised at Vloggercon to help jump > start development. And that's when Show In A Box was born. What it is > is a videoblogging platform based on Wordpress. What we're doing is > building video-centric plugins and themes to give people the tools to > create a sustaining community around their work. > At this moment the biggest piece of the puzzle is Enric's vPIP plugin. > vPIP basically lets you offer viewers a choice of video formats to > choose from. It also generates a separate RSS feed for each of those > formats. We also have a few themes based on K2 that are designed to > hold 640 pixel wide video. > > We're working on a series of plugins for related videos, recent videos > and a video archive. And the really big piece that will pull it all > together is a new version of Pledge Drive (not sure is this is still > the name of it) that will allow you to receive and track one-time and > recurring payments via PayPal. > > So basically it's plugins and themes for Wordpress. You don't have to > use all of them - just what works for you. Already got a theme you > love? Great, stick with that. Just want to use the new Pledge Drive > and nothing else? No Problem. > > Right now there isn't much documentation so it really helps to have > some experience with Wordpress before trying to implement any of this. > But soon we'll have instructions and screencasts just like at > Freevlog. We also have an email list where we're helping each other > figure all this stuff out - > http://groups.google.com/group/show-in-a-box > > There's a good number of us from this list working on it doing > everything from programming to testing to documenting. Off the top of > my head it's... > > Jay Dedman > Ryanne Hodson > Enric Teller > Charles Iliya Krempeaux > Jen Simmons > Markus Sandy > Jakob > Cheryl Colan > Milt Lee > Steve Watkins > Michael Sullivan > Michael Verdi (me) > and others > > > - Verdi > > > On Dec 9, 2007 8:31 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been kind of curious about Show In A Box. Is it something people > > here generally recommend? What are the upsides/downsides? Which shows > > use it? > > > > Full of questions today, > > > > Chris > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Coffey > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I think I resolved the problem by unchecking the "use > > > external Flash Player". > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://michaelverdi.com > http://freevlog.org > http://nscape.tv >
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Show in A Box...hicupp? Problems copy paste from Blip
So here's the Show In A Box story: For a long time we worked on how to easily get people videoblogging for free - http://freevlog.org All the while, we were learning to use tools with more flexibility, namely, Wordpress. Also for years now we've recognized that there are people with great video content that might be able to make their work sustainable if they had the tools. So we started putting things together and trying stuff out - first at http://havemoneywillvlog and then at http://ryanishungry.com and http://swajana.com . Then we decided to use some of the money we raised at Vloggercon to help jump start development. And that's when Show In A Box was born. What it is is a videoblogging platform based on Wordpress. What we're doing is building video-centric plugins and themes to give people the tools to create a sustaining community around their work. At this moment the biggest piece of the puzzle is Enric's vPIP plugin. vPIP basically lets you offer viewers a choice of video formats to choose from. It also generates a separate RSS feed for each of those formats. We also have a few themes based on K2 that are designed to hold 640 pixel wide video. We're working on a series of plugins for related videos, recent videos and a video archive. And the really big piece that will pull it all together is a new version of Pledge Drive (not sure is this is still the name of it) that will allow you to receive and track one-time and recurring payments via PayPal. So basically it's plugins and themes for Wordpress. You don't have to use all of them - just what works for you. Already got a theme you love? Great, stick with that. Just want to use the new Pledge Drive and nothing else? No Problem. Right now there isn't much documentation so it really helps to have some experience with Wordpress before trying to implement any of this. But soon we'll have instructions and screencasts just like at Freevlog. We also have an email list where we're helping each other figure all this stuff out - http://groups.google.com/group/show-in-a-box There's a good number of us from this list working on it doing everything from programming to testing to documenting. Off the top of my head it's... Jay Dedman Ryanne Hodson Enric Teller Charles Iliya Krempeaux Jen Simmons Markus Sandy Jakob Cheryl Colan Milt Lee Steve Watkins Michael Sullivan Michael Verdi (me) and others - Verdi On Dec 9, 2007 8:31 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I've been kind of curious about Show In A Box. Is it something people > here generally recommend? What are the upsides/downsides? Which shows > use it? > > Full of questions today, > > Chris > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Coffey > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think I resolved the problem by unchecking the "use > > external Flash Player". > > > > -- http://michaelverdi.com http://freevlog.org http://nscape.tv
[videoblogging] Re: Show in A Box...hicupp? Problems copy paste from Blip
I've been kind of curious about Show In A Box. Is it something people here generally recommend? What are the upsides/downsides? Which shows use it? Full of questions today, Chris --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think I resolved the problem by unchecking the "use > external Flash Player".
[videoblogging] Re: What kind of Pro camera should I get?
I use the Rode video mic a lot since I have gotten it, for audio it's greatI'm just not that impressed with my camera low light abilitiesbut thinking about what Brook mentioned I think I am going to try and find a rental place around here. I think I have made some pretty good stuff with what I have, I know that is subjective, but I think I have when I have used my camcorder insted of my other camera that captures videobut by playing around first hand with some stuff I can get a feel for some things i think.. Thanks everyone for their thoughts Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Heath: > > I don't have much to add to Brook's long & informative response. I agree > with her that the newer JVC & Sony equipment doesn't feel as solid as > the Canon. The XH-A1 is on my wish list when I can spare the money to > make the jump to HDV. > > One thing I see as a difference between "pro" and "consumer" cameras is > the audio interface. > * Can you plug in XLR audio? > * Can you separate right & left audio channels from different sources? > * Can the inputs take line level inputs, or just mic level? > * How goos is the on-board microphone? Does it stand out far enough from > the camera body to reject the lens motor noise? > > If you don't have the budget for a pro camera with these features, they > can be added to a cheaper camera like the HV20 using good add-on > adapters ... as long as it has a 1/8" mic jack. I use a Rode shotgun mic > & BeachTek passive XLR adapter with my Sony TRV950. Those two add- ons > cost about $300 together, and they really add to what my little > "prosumer" camcorder can do. > > Add-ons do complicate your setup. You're adding extra batteries, plugs & > on-switches ... and if you're not careful, your camera rig looks like > the Bride of FrankenVision. I'm not ready to drop $3K+ on a new HDV > camera and accessories yet, but when I do I will spend more to get a > more solid camera without needing to add lots of stuff to the shoe :) > > br > > Heath wrote: > > I read a lot of good things about the Panasonic DVX100 line, it's a > > good point about HD though, with so much stuff going that way.I > > will have to check to see if there are any rental places around > > Cincinnatididn't think about that option > > > > Heath > > http://batmangeek.com > > > > -- > Brian Richardson > - http://siliconchef.com > - http://dragoncontv.com > - http://whatthecast.com > - http://www.3chip.com >
Re: [videoblogging] Show in A Box...hicupp? Problems copy paste from Blip
I think I resolved the problem by unchecking the "use external Flash Player". --- John Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm having problems with Show in A Box retaining > wrong > info, when I cut code from Blip share/permalinks and > post it into my Vlogsplosiion Media grid, and press > save. > correctly but when I hit Flash on my site, > www.jchtv.com it does nothing, and when I hover the > mouse over the Flash link it shows a URL that is > different and ends in .swf > This only happened on videos that I tried to edit > today and had no problems with the dozen shows I > upgraded. Is there a reason Wordpress is not seeing > changes I make to the Vlogsplosion grid? Problem > posts > are 9/18/2006 and older. Thanks John > > Example > http://www.jchtv.com/ > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[videoblogging] Show in A Box...hicupp? Problems copy paste from Blip
I'm having problems with Show in A Box retaining wrong info, when I cut code from Blip share/permalinks and post it into my Vlogsplosiion Media grid, and press save. (Eg. http://blip.tv/file/get/JimmyCraicHead-SailingMiDushiAruba278.flv) It saves into the grid like my posts that work correctly but when I hit Flash on my site, www.jchtv.com it does nothing, and when I hover the mouse over the Flash link it shows a URL that is different and ends in .swf This only happened on videos that I tried to edit today and had no problems with the dozen shows I upgraded. Is there a reason Wordpress is not seeing changes I make to the Vlogsplosion grid? Problem posts are 9/18/2006 and older. Thanks John Example http://www.jchtv.com/?p=43 Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[videoblogging] Re: What kind of Pro camera should I get?
Nice rundown. I've seen really good results from the DVX100 and recently from the HVX200. If this is for a professional, and as you mentioned, CONSTANTLY PAYING application, I would choose the HVX200, as you'll make your money back instantly from clients that recognize how much better your camera is over the competition. As far as workflow, with the HVX200's P2 cards, you get to use "Log and Transfer" instead of "Log and Capture" in Final Cut Studio 2. MUCH faster transfer to disk as opposed to playing real-time from tape. You get to see your clips before you bring them in, so you don't even have to transfer clips that you know you're not going to use. Faster workflow => Getting the project out the door faster => More money for your time spent. -- Bill Cammack CammackMediaGroup.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Brook Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Among the typos I left this out - despite the hubbub about the > HVX200's 540 line resolving power, everyone I know feels it holds up > to HDCam and even film outpt as well or better than its HDV > equivalents. Resolution isn't everything by a long shot. > > Also be warned that the fake 24P on some of the Sony cameras can NOT > be treated as 24P in post and looks really really wonky. > > And I left out my summary: assuming 24P is necessary: > > Best value: Panasonic DVX100 (but doesn't do HD) > Best HD option under 10k: Panasonic HVX-200 > Best Professional HDV for the money: Canon XH-A1 > Best Consumer HDV: Canon HV20 > Best Consumer DV: Sony's cheapos still have the picture quality edge, > while Panasonic's have the interface/ergonomics edge. > > Brook > > > On 12/9/07, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Warning - long response. > > > > First - if you have a good rental house nearby I would strongly > > consider renting for your for-hire work unitl you get a good sense of > > what cameras you like and how their workflow works out for you. That's > > what I'm doing right now - there's still a lot of upheaval in the low > > to mid end HD production field and things will keep changing rapidly. > > The fallout from the introduction of the RED camera is going to change > > things drastically. > > > > That said, here's my take on the sub-10k cams I'm familiar with. > > You'll note very little Sony or JVC mentioned - I used to favor Sony's > > stuff, but they've fallen way behind in this field in my view. JVC > > makes some very interesting midrange cameras, but I am leery of their > > > > For 24P in standard def/DV you are pretty much limited to the > > absolutely excellent Panasonic DVX100 (or its more expensive big > > brother, the HVX200, which also does HD once you add pricey P2 cards - > > see below). > > > > For pro for-hire work I still try to avoid HDV except for projects > > that are primarily interviews or other material that won't have a lot > > of motion. The Canon HDV stuff does a better job than the other brands > > on avoiding motion artifacts and blocking it seems, but you're going > > to be delivering on DVD, h.264 files or an HD DVD / Blu-Ray pretty > > soon for many clients, which means putting that long-GOP mpeg2 > > transport HDV stream through not only color correction and whatever > > other image processing and compositing but ANOTHER pass of temporal > > compression. That said, I know others who are using the the higher end > > Sony and Canon HDV cameras for professional work. If you go that > > route, the HX-A1 is a great value. > > > > If you want 24P in HDV, Sony has one model, but it has pretty crummy > > low light performance. Canon's prosumer/professional HDV stuff does > > 24F, which is kind of like a 24fps version of "frame mode" on the XL1 > > and GL1 - doesn't have the res of 24P but it has the look and can be > > treated as true 24P in post. > > > > On the lower end - while I adore my little HV20 as an everyday > > personal cam and even for my own filmmaking, it lacks the support you > > really need for professional audio in the field (unless you're doing > > double system sound), and is going to make most clients a little > > uneasy since it looks and feels like a very cheap consumer camera. > > It's 24P feature requires some extra steps in post as it doesn't carry > > the cadence flags other 24P video equipment uses. The picture, once > > you learn to get full manual control, rivals its more expensive > > brothers and sisters though. It's the best consumer-for-pros secret > > weapon cam since the Sony TRV900, but it's not something to build a > > production business around. > > > > IF you can afford it and are willing to learn the workflow of using P2 > > cards and no tape, the HVX200 is NON-hdv HD camera for the money, does > > multiple frame rates, and uses dvcproHD instead of HDV for > > compression. Basically (though this obersimplifies), its a native 16:9 > > HD version of the DVX100 (it will also do DV on tape). But once you > > get the cards and the support stuff it is more expensive
[videoblogging] Re: Voicethread - interesting video commenting system
Susan writes: >(a want the comments to > be on my own vlog, meaning my viewers don't have to go to an external > site: I just spent a few minutes fiddling with Riffly and learned it puts video and audio "tags" right on your own wordpress webpage. The audio and video files do seem to be on the Riffly server and come straight from there. This could be a problem for me. If I spent a lot of time and attention building up a body of content, then the Riffly service went out of business, well, poof, all my content is gone. This happened when I was using the www.click.tv service, which was REALLY good for text commenting WITHIN a video. > (b don't want to have to watch the video over and over again > to see all the comments. I would just like people talking. You can read down the wordpress blog, and just click on an audio or video tag when you want to see or hear just that one. John by hammer and hand great works do stand www.HistoricHomeWorks.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: What kind of Pro camera should I get?
Heath: I don't have much to add to Brook's long & informative response. I agree with her that the newer JVC & Sony equipment doesn't feel as solid as the Canon. The XH-A1 is on my wish list when I can spare the money to make the jump to HDV. One thing I see as a difference between "pro" and "consumer" cameras is the audio interface. * Can you plug in XLR audio? * Can you separate right & left audio channels from different sources? * Can the inputs take line level inputs, or just mic level? * How goos is the on-board microphone? Does it stand out far enough from the camera body to reject the lens motor noise? If you don't have the budget for a pro camera with these features, they can be added to a cheaper camera like the HV20 using good add-on adapters ... as long as it has a 1/8" mic jack. I use a Rode shotgun mic & BeachTek passive XLR adapter with my Sony TRV950. Those two add-ons cost about $300 together, and they really add to what my little "prosumer" camcorder can do. Add-ons do complicate your setup. You're adding extra batteries, plugs & on-switches ... and if you're not careful, your camera rig looks like the Bride of FrankenVision. I'm not ready to drop $3K+ on a new HDV camera and accessories yet, but when I do I will spend more to get a more solid camera without needing to add lots of stuff to the shoe :) br Heath wrote: > I read a lot of good things about the Panasonic DVX100 line, it's a > good point about HD though, with so much stuff going that way.I > will have to check to see if there are any rental places around > Cincinnatididn't think about that option > > Heath > http://batmangeek.com > -- Brian Richardson - http://siliconchef.com - http://dragoncontv.com - http://whatthecast.com - http://www.3chip.com
[videoblogging] Re: What kind of Pro camera should I get?
Never truer words spoken. Just my opinion... Unless you are consistently producing quality professional work, then stick with what you have until you can make what you have look professional. What looks professional? Heh...age old question. Professional is what you've created with it. The camera will NOT help you be, look or create something professional. Again...just my opinions. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Brook Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 3) A skilled and talented artist or craftsperson can get professional > results from almost anything. An unskilled person will not do any > better with a CIneAlta HDCam than they will with a cel phone camera. > The person is at least 95% of the quality equation. The equipment is > secondary. > > FWIW, with apologies for my habitual lectury teacher-tone, > > Brook > > > ___ > Brook Hinton > film/video/audio art > www.brookhinton.com > studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab >
[videoblogging] Re: Final Cut Mac Mini question and a question about widescreen
I'm running Final Cut Pro 5.0.4 and OSX 10.4.10 (although I've been upgrading the osX as they become available through auto-update. Mike --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which version? That's mainly what I was curious about. > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Moon" wrote: > > > > I'm running Final Cut Pro on my Mac Mini 1.42ghz powerpc, with no > > issues. Well, no issues accept for the length of time it takes...but > > that's the nature of running on an older machine. > > > > Mike > > http://vlog.mikemoon.net >
[videoblogging] Re: Voicethread - interesting video commenting system
Kyte.TV is a free service that does this video/audio/text response very well, plus a way to publish video, photos, text stories, etc.. Even accessible by mobile smart phone to view and publish. You can insert the kyte player/recorder on your own webpage or blog via html object. www.Kyte.TV here's mine: http://www.kyte.tv/channels/view.html?name=historic_homeworks#uri=channels/16008/80130 Scoble has quite a following on Kyte here: http://www.kyte.tv/ch/6118-scobleizer-sponsored-by-seagate#uri=channels/6118/79981 John by hammer and hand great works do stand by cam and light he shoots it right
[videoblogging] Re: What kind of Pro camera should I get?
I read a lot of good things about the Panasonic DVX100 line, it's a good point about HD though, with so much stuff going that way.I will have to check to see if there are any rental places around Cincinnatididn't think about that option Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Brook Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Among the typos I left this out - despite the hubbub about the > HVX200's 540 line resolving power, everyone I know feels it holds up > to HDCam and even film outpt as well or better than its HDV > equivalents. Resolution isn't everything by a long shot. > > Also be warned that the fake 24P on some of the Sony cameras can NOT > be treated as 24P in post and looks really really wonky. > > And I left out my summary: assuming 24P is necessary: > > Best value: Panasonic DVX100 (but doesn't do HD) > Best HD option under 10k: Panasonic HVX-200 > Best Professional HDV for the money: Canon XH-A1 > Best Consumer HDV: Canon HV20 > Best Consumer DV: Sony's cheapos still have the picture quality edge, > while Panasonic's have the interface/ergonomics edge. > > Brook > > > On 12/9/07, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Warning - long response. > > > > First - if you have a good rental house nearby I would strongly > > consider renting for your for-hire work unitl you get a good sense of > > what cameras you like and how their workflow works out for you. That's > > what I'm doing right now - there's still a lot of upheaval in the low > > to mid end HD production field and things will keep changing rapidly. > > The fallout from the introduction of the RED camera is going to change > > things drastically. > > > > That said, here's my take on the sub-10k cams I'm familiar with. > > You'll note very little Sony or JVC mentioned - I used to favor Sony's > > stuff, but they've fallen way behind in this field in my view. JVC > > makes some very interesting midrange cameras, but I am leery of their > > > > For 24P in standard def/DV you are pretty much limited to the > > absolutely excellent Panasonic DVX100 (or its more expensive big > > brother, the HVX200, which also does HD once you add pricey P2 cards - > > see below). > > > > For pro for-hire work I still try to avoid HDV except for projects > > that are primarily interviews or other material that won't have a lot > > of motion. The Canon HDV stuff does a better job than the other brands > > on avoiding motion artifacts and blocking it seems, but you're going > > to be delivering on DVD, h.264 files or an HD DVD / Blu-Ray pretty > > soon for many clients, which means putting that long-GOP mpeg2 > > transport HDV stream through not only color correction and whatever > > other image processing and compositing but ANOTHER pass of temporal > > compression. That said, I know others who are using the the higher end > > Sony and Canon HDV cameras for professional work. If you go that > > route, the HX-A1 is a great value. > > > > If you want 24P in HDV, Sony has one model, but it has pretty crummy > > low light performance. Canon's prosumer/professional HDV stuff does > > 24F, which is kind of like a 24fps version of "frame mode" on the XL1 > > and GL1 - doesn't have the res of 24P but it has the look and can be > > treated as true 24P in post. > > > > On the lower end - while I adore my little HV20 as an everyday > > personal cam and even for my own filmmaking, it lacks the support you > > really need for professional audio in the field (unless you're doing > > double system sound), and is going to make most clients a little > > uneasy since it looks and feels like a very cheap consumer camera. > > It's 24P feature requires some extra steps in post as it doesn't carry > > the cadence flags other 24P video equipment uses. The picture, once > > you learn to get full manual control, rivals its more expensive > > brothers and sisters though. It's the best consumer-for-pros secret > > weapon cam since the Sony TRV900, but it's not something to build a > > production business around. > > > > IF you can afford it and are willing to learn the workflow of using P2 > > cards and no tape, the HVX200 is NON-hdv HD camera for the money, does > > multiple frame rates, and uses dvcproHD instead of HDV for > > compression. Basically (though this obersimplifies), its a native 16:9 > > HD version of the DVX100 (it will also do DV on tape). But once you > > get the cards and the support stuff it is more expensive than the high > > end Canon and Sony HDV stuff. There's a lot of talk about it only > > resolving 540 lines and the interpolation it uses. > > > > > > I should also repeat here three mantras I always tell my students: > > > > 1) Never buy anything until you are ready to learn it thoroughly and > > use it regularly immediately. I work with so many people who got > > themselves "fully equipped" and then, two years later, find themselves > > facing obsolescence or incompatabilities on
Re: [videoblogging] What kind of Pro camera should I get?
Among the typos I left this out - despite the hubbub about the HVX200's 540 line resolving power, everyone I know feels it holds up to HDCam and even film outpt as well or better than its HDV equivalents. Resolution isn't everything by a long shot. Also be warned that the fake 24P on some of the Sony cameras can NOT be treated as 24P in post and looks really really wonky. And I left out my summary: assuming 24P is necessary: Best value: Panasonic DVX100 (but doesn't do HD) Best HD option under 10k: Panasonic HVX-200 Best Professional HDV for the money: Canon XH-A1 Best Consumer HDV: Canon HV20 Best Consumer DV: Sony's cheapos still have the picture quality edge, while Panasonic's have the interface/ergonomics edge. Brook On 12/9/07, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Warning - long response. > > First - if you have a good rental house nearby I would strongly > consider renting for your for-hire work unitl you get a good sense of > what cameras you like and how their workflow works out for you. That's > what I'm doing right now - there's still a lot of upheaval in the low > to mid end HD production field and things will keep changing rapidly. > The fallout from the introduction of the RED camera is going to change > things drastically. > > That said, here's my take on the sub-10k cams I'm familiar with. > You'll note very little Sony or JVC mentioned - I used to favor Sony's > stuff, but they've fallen way behind in this field in my view. JVC > makes some very interesting midrange cameras, but I am leery of their > > For 24P in standard def/DV you are pretty much limited to the > absolutely excellent Panasonic DVX100 (or its more expensive big > brother, the HVX200, which also does HD once you add pricey P2 cards - > see below). > > For pro for-hire work I still try to avoid HDV except for projects > that are primarily interviews or other material that won't have a lot > of motion. The Canon HDV stuff does a better job than the other brands > on avoiding motion artifacts and blocking it seems, but you're going > to be delivering on DVD, h.264 files or an HD DVD / Blu-Ray pretty > soon for many clients, which means putting that long-GOP mpeg2 > transport HDV stream through not only color correction and whatever > other image processing and compositing but ANOTHER pass of temporal > compression. That said, I know others who are using the the higher end > Sony and Canon HDV cameras for professional work. If you go that > route, the HX-A1 is a great value. > > If you want 24P in HDV, Sony has one model, but it has pretty crummy > low light performance. Canon's prosumer/professional HDV stuff does > 24F, which is kind of like a 24fps version of "frame mode" on the XL1 > and GL1 - doesn't have the res of 24P but it has the look and can be > treated as true 24P in post. > > On the lower end - while I adore my little HV20 as an everyday > personal cam and even for my own filmmaking, it lacks the support you > really need for professional audio in the field (unless you're doing > double system sound), and is going to make most clients a little > uneasy since it looks and feels like a very cheap consumer camera. > It's 24P feature requires some extra steps in post as it doesn't carry > the cadence flags other 24P video equipment uses. The picture, once > you learn to get full manual control, rivals its more expensive > brothers and sisters though. It's the best consumer-for-pros secret > weapon cam since the Sony TRV900, but it's not something to build a > production business around. > > IF you can afford it and are willing to learn the workflow of using P2 > cards and no tape, the HVX200 is NON-hdv HD camera for the money, does > multiple frame rates, and uses dvcproHD instead of HDV for > compression. Basically (though this obersimplifies), its a native 16:9 > HD version of the DVX100 (it will also do DV on tape). But once you > get the cards and the support stuff it is more expensive than the high > end Canon and Sony HDV stuff. There's a lot of talk about it only > resolving 540 lines and the interpolation it uses. > > > I should also repeat here three mantras I always tell my students: > > 1) Never buy anything until you are ready to learn it thoroughly and > use it regularly immediately. I work with so many people who got > themselves "fully equipped" and then, two years later, find themselves > facing obsolescence or incompatabilities once they are ready to really > learn and use. > > 2) Never WAIT to buy something you need right away due to fear of > something better and cheaper coming out soon - it's not worth the > missed opportunity. > > 3) A skilled and talented artist or craftsperson can get professional > results from almost anything. An unskilled person will not do any > better with a CIneAlta HDCam than they will with a cel phone camera. > The person is at least 95% of the quality equation. The equipment is > secondary. > > FWIW, with apologies for my habitual lectury teacher-tone, > > Br
Re: [videoblogging] What kind of Pro camera should I get?
Warning - long response. First - if you have a good rental house nearby I would strongly consider renting for your for-hire work unitl you get a good sense of what cameras you like and how their workflow works out for you. That's what I'm doing right now - there's still a lot of upheaval in the low to mid end HD production field and things will keep changing rapidly. The fallout from the introduction of the RED camera is going to change things drastically. That said, here's my take on the sub-10k cams I'm familiar with. You'll note very little Sony or JVC mentioned - I used to favor Sony's stuff, but they've fallen way behind in this field in my view. JVC makes some very interesting midrange cameras, but I am leery of their For 24P in standard def/DV you are pretty much limited to the absolutely excellent Panasonic DVX100 (or its more expensive big brother, the HVX200, which also does HD once you add pricey P2 cards - see below). For pro for-hire work I still try to avoid HDV except for projects that are primarily interviews or other material that won't have a lot of motion. The Canon HDV stuff does a better job than the other brands on avoiding motion artifacts and blocking it seems, but you're going to be delivering on DVD, h.264 files or an HD DVD / Blu-Ray pretty soon for many clients, which means putting that long-GOP mpeg2 transport HDV stream through not only color correction and whatever other image processing and compositing but ANOTHER pass of temporal compression. That said, I know others who are using the the higher end Sony and Canon HDV cameras for professional work. If you go that route, the HX-A1 is a great value. If you want 24P in HDV, Sony has one model, but it has pretty crummy low light performance. Canon's prosumer/professional HDV stuff does 24F, which is kind of like a 24fps version of "frame mode" on the XL1 and GL1 - doesn't have the res of 24P but it has the look and can be treated as true 24P in post. On the lower end - while I adore my little HV20 as an everyday personal cam and even for my own filmmaking, it lacks the support you really need for professional audio in the field (unless you're doing double system sound), and is going to make most clients a little uneasy since it looks and feels like a very cheap consumer camera. It's 24P feature requires some extra steps in post as it doesn't carry the cadence flags other 24P video equipment uses. The picture, once you learn to get full manual control, rivals its more expensive brothers and sisters though. It's the best consumer-for-pros secret weapon cam since the Sony TRV900, but it's not something to build a production business around. IF you can afford it and are willing to learn the workflow of using P2 cards and no tape, the HVX200 is NON-hdv HD camera for the money, does multiple frame rates, and uses dvcproHD instead of HDV for compression. Basically (though this obersimplifies), its a native 16:9 HD version of the DVX100 (it will also do DV on tape). But once you get the cards and the support stuff it is more expensive than the high end Canon and Sony HDV stuff. There's a lot of talk about it only resolving 540 lines and the interpolation it uses. I should also repeat here three mantras I always tell my students: 1) Never buy anything until you are ready to learn it thoroughly and use it regularly immediately. I work with so many people who got themselves "fully equipped" and then, two years later, find themselves facing obsolescence or incompatabilities once they are ready to really learn and use. 2) Never WAIT to buy something you need right away due to fear of something better and cheaper coming out soon - it's not worth the missed opportunity. 3) A skilled and talented artist or craftsperson can get professional results from almost anything. An unskilled person will not do any better with a CIneAlta HDCam than they will with a cel phone camera. The person is at least 95% of the quality equation. The equipment is secondary. FWIW, with apologies for my habitual lectury teacher-tone, Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
[videoblogging] Re: Final Cut Mac Mini question and a question about widescreen
Which version? That's mainly what I was curious about. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm running Final Cut Pro on my Mac Mini 1.42ghz powerpc, with no > issues. Well, no issues accept for the length of time it takes...but > that's the nature of running on an older machine. > > Mike > http://vlog.mikemoon.net
[videoblogging] Re: Final Cut Mac Mini question and a question about widescreen
I'm running Final Cut Pro on my Mac Mini 1.42ghz powerpc, with no issues. Well, no issues accept for the length of time it takes...but that's the nature of running on an older machine. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, I have a couple of things I'd like to ask... > > Does anyone know off hand the latest version of Final Cut Pro that > would be compatible with a first generation (pre-Intel) Mac Mini > running OS 10.3.9? > > Also, what are the standard dimensions of the widescreen videos a lot > of people are posting to places like blip? > > Much thanks for any info, > > Chris >
[videoblogging] Oy, and another question...
Anybody know of any good tutorials for creating TV news style graphics?
[videoblogging] Final Cut Mac Mini question and a question about widescreen
Hi all, I have a couple of things I'd like to ask... Does anyone know off hand the latest version of Final Cut Pro that would be compatible with a first generation (pre-Intel) Mac Mini running OS 10.3.9? Also, what are the standard dimensions of the widescreen videos a lot of people are posting to places like blip? Much thanks for any info, Chris
[videoblogging] What kind of Pro camera should I get?
I am looking at upgrading my camera and in a big way. As some of you may know I have been starting to have people come to me to video stuff. And while the camera I have has been able to do that, it won't get me to where I need to be. SoI am looking at upgrading. I know quite a few on this list who are using pro or prosumer cameras, so I am looking for practicial advise and recomendations. I need something that will be good in low light, have some manual controls, external sound, etc. I also want to be able to use this camera to shoot weddings, local events, short films, etc. Like I said, I know the camera I have can do most of what I want to do, but it doesn't do all and I want a camera I can grow with, the ability to shoot in low light and the external lighting ablility along with being able to shoot in 24p are the big things. So, Jay, Ryanne, Bill, David, Rupert, Cheryl and anyone else who has knowledge let me know what you thinkand if anyone uses a paticular camera let me know... Thanks! Heath http://batmangeek.com
[videoblogging] Re: Voicethread - interesting video commenting system
I just came across a WordPress plugin that allows users to add video/audio comments to your vlog that stay as part of your normal comments. http://www.riffly.com They have a live demo there you can try. Some downsides, you need to use your mic/webcam attached to your computer and it may only work with Firefox and PCs... although I've not tested it myself. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does indeed look interesting... but for me, I (a want the comments to > be on my own vlog, meaning my viewers don't have to go to an external > site: and (b don't want to have to watch the video over and over again > to see all the comments. I would just like people talking. This can > definitely have its practical applications... > > Susan > http://vlog.kitykity.com > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" wrote: > > > > Im sure its not perfect but this caught my eye: > > > > http://voicethread.com/?#home.b21651 > > > > Certainly seems 1 step closer to an intelligent way to comment on > video, using video, what ya > > reckon? > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve Elbows > > >
[videoblogging] Re: Voicethread - interesting video commenting system
Does indeed look interesting... but for me, I (a want the comments to be on my own vlog, meaning my viewers don't have to go to an external site: and (b don't want to have to watch the video over and over again to see all the comments. I would just like people talking. This can definitely have its practical applications... Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Im sure its not perfect but this caught my eye: > > http://voicethread.com/?#home.b21651 > > Certainly seems 1 step closer to an intelligent way to comment on video, using video, what ya > reckon? > > Cheers > > Steve Elbows >
[videoblogging] Voicethread - interesting video commenting system
Im sure its not perfect but this caught my eye: http://voicethread.com/?#home.b21651 Certainly seems 1 step closer to an intelligent way to comment on video, using video, what ya reckon? Cheers Steve Elbows
Re: [videoblogging] student vlogging at leedsvlog
Hey this sounds great i should have some time now that winnies are done tho we are doing a xmas special for getv can you let us know when there are a few more up thanks irina On 12/8/07, Michael Szpakowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all > I'm teaching a short course on videoblogging at Leeds > College of Art in the north of England -its just a > couple of weeks but there are twenty students & they > should be posting 5 movies each by Wednesday next. > It's at: > > http://www.leedsvlog.org/vlog/ > > If any of you have the time & the inclination it'd be > great if you could take a look and maybe even post > some comments -Sam Renseiw & Jen Proctor have already > discovered the vlog & done this & it has been > enormously encouraging for the students, some of whom > have not used video before at all, plus it has made > the point about how much of an interested audience for > this kind of project it's possible to assemble. > There're about eleven movies up at the moment - I > anticipate something of a rush Monday & Tuesday :) > cheers > michael > > > > -- http://geekentertainment.tv
