Re: [videoblogging] Please make a good video

2008-11-12 Thread Jay dedman
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Matthew Milam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://youtube.com/mmilamtv

good to meet you.
amazing how someone's videoblog can open up a text email list.

haha
thats smart to sell extra DVD's that someone sent you.
Ive done that a couple times with technology that's been sent to me for testing.

Jay

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917 371 6790


Re: [videoblogging] TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread David King
I'm missing why they couldn't just use youtube ...?

Whatever - cool that such a traditional arm of gov is starting to thaw a
bit!

David Lee King
davidleeking.com - blog
davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
twitter | skype: davidleeking


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Things never cease to amaze me.
 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17556

  But the US Army has gone the other way, actively encouraging personnel to
  create their own videos for posting not on YouTube, but on TroopTube
 http://www.trooptube.tv/,
  a military movie site from Military OneSource.
 
  The site is designed for easy use, so you can quickly upload videos and
  share the simple joys of each day with each other, either privately or
 with
  the whole world. Sign up today and begin sharing videos by clicking
 here,
  it says, emphasising, Military OneSource is an authorized Department of
  Defense program for Active Duty, Guard, Reserve and their families.
 
  When we went for a look at 6:18 am Pacific, the site had two postings:
  general David Petraeus in a, message to the troops; and, Wives'
 shout-out
  to 3rd Brigade A Troop 133 Cavalry.
 
 enjoy http://www.trooptube.tv/.

 Jay

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 http://jaydedman.com
 917 371 6790

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Re: [videoblogging] TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Jay dedman
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm missing why they couldn't just use youtube ...?
 Whatever - cool that such a traditional arm of gov is starting to thaw a
 bit!

if you read the post, sounds like they want more control over what military
people post.

Women of CVN76, 'That Don't Impress Me Much' was the work of an unnamed
 airman and included, fleeting shots of the door to the ship's nuclear power
 plant and of a Sailor dancing while wearing a full-body radiation suit.
 But the US Army has gone the other way, actively encouraging personnel to
 create their own videos for posting not on YouTube, but on TroopTube, a
 military movie site from Military OneSource.


So they will ask Yotube et al to take down all videos made by soldiers, then
say but hey, put them on Trooptube!
Im sure Trooptube will not allow anonymous posters, so you can assured that
all videos will be harmless and uncritical.
Probably wont be encouraging of an open conversation.

we'll see.
Plenty of the stuff Ive seen posted by soldiers are dead people and the
crazy stuff you see in war.
(NOT SAFE FOR WORK http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqwarpix.html)
DONT click here if you are squeamish.

Jay


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Re: [videoblogging] TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Brian Richardson
I actually like this idea. You get the benefits of YouTube features
for the troops without the  Geraldo Rivera style let me show you
exactly where we are in Iraq on live TV mistakes that the military
wants to avoid.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm missing why they couldn't just use youtube ...?
 Whatever - cool that such a traditional arm of gov is starting to thaw a
 bit!

 if you read the post, sounds like they want more control over what military
 people post.


Brian Richardson
 - http://siliconchef.com
 - http://dragoncontv.com
 - http://whatthecast.com
 - http://www.3chip.com


Re: [videoblogging] TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Adam Quirk
This is a slap in the face to the soldiers. It says we don't want you to
use 'normal' methods of communication because we're afraid of what you'll
say. Disgusting.

My cousins in Iraq just update their facebook status, upload video to
youtube, and send emails home like normal human beings.

*Adam Quirk* / Wreck  Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com /
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim)



On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Brian Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 I actually like this idea. You get the benefits of YouTube features
 for the troops without the  Geraldo Rivera style let me show you
 exactly where we are in Iraq on live TV mistakes that the military
 wants to avoid.

 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I'm missing why they couldn't just use youtube ...?
  Whatever - cool that such a traditional arm of gov is starting to thaw a
  bit!
 
  if you read the post, sounds like they want more control over what
 military
  people post.
 
 
 Brian Richardson
  - http://siliconchef.com
  - http://dragoncontv.com
  - http://whatthecast.com
  - http://www.3chip.com

 

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Re: [videoblogging] TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread halley hopkins
It's actually not that bad.

In a lot of places, when accessing the web from a .mil IP address sites are
blocked (particularly consistently stateside). YouTube is one of the ones
blocked. (
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/trooptube-restores-streaming-video-to-our-nations-finest/)
So, if you think about it, trooptube is pretty cool - every soldier has
access to a public vid sharing site that is probably going to be visited by
a higher density of users who care about/ can relate to what they're
posting. It will likely help cut back on the youtube comments which lend
themselves more to douchebaggery than to constructive support.

I have to give it a thumbs up.





On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

   This is a slap in the face to the soldiers. It says we don't want you
 to
 use 'normal' methods of communication because we're afraid of what you'll
 say. Disgusting.

 My cousins in Iraq just update their facebook status, upload video to
 youtube, and send emails home like normal human beings.

 *Adam Quirk* / Wreck  Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com /
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com / +1 551.208.4644
 (m) / imbullemhead (aim)

 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Brian Richardson [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]wtc%40whatthecast.com
 wrote:


  I actually like this idea. You get the benefits of YouTube features
  for the troops without the Geraldo Rivera style let me show you
  exactly where we are in Iraq on live TV mistakes that the military
  wants to avoid.
 
  On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL 
  PROTECTED]jay.dedman%40gmail.com
 wrote:
   On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM, David King [EMAIL 
   PROTECTED]davidleeking%40gmail.com
 
  wrote:
   I'm missing why they couldn't just use youtube ...?
   Whatever - cool that such a traditional arm of gov is starting to thaw
 a
   bit!
  
   if you read the post, sounds like they want more control over what
  military
   people post.
  
  
  Brian Richardson
  - http://siliconchef.com
  - http://dragoncontv.com
  - http://whatthecast.com
  - http://www.3chip.com
 
  
 
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Re: [videoblogging] TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Jay dedman
 It's actually not that bad.
 In a lot of places, when accessing the web from a .mil IP address sites are
 blocked (particularly consistently stateside). YouTube is one of the ones
 blocked. (
 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/trooptube-restores-streaming-video-to-our-nations-finest/)
 So, if you think about it, trooptube is pretty cool - every soldier has
 access to a public vid sharing site that is probably going to be visited by
 a higher density of users who care about/ can relate to what they're
 posting. It will likely help cut back on the youtube comments which lend
 themselves more to douchebaggery than to constructive support.
 I have to give it a thumbs up.

Interesting that we have 2 widely different views here.
obviously, the proof will be what is actually posted in the month.
So far there are 2 videos.

Will it be simply the army is great!...or will there be
conversation, constructive criticism, and crazy antics that soldiers
like to record of themselves.

jay


--
http://jaydedman.com
917 371 6790


[videoblogging] TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Jay dedman
Things never cease to amaze me.
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17556

 But the US Army has gone the other way, actively encouraging personnel to
 create their own videos for posting not on YouTube, but on 
 TroopTubehttp://www.trooptube.tv/,
 a military movie site from Military OneSource.

 The site is designed for easy use, so you can quickly upload videos and
 share the simple joys of each day with each other, either privately or with
 the whole world. Sign up today and begin sharing videos by clicking here,
 it says, emphasising, Military OneSource is an authorized Department of
 Defense program for Active Duty, Guard, Reserve and their families.

 When we went for a look at 6:18 am Pacific, the site had two postings:
 general David Petraeus in a, message to the troops; and, Wives' shout-out
 to 3rd Brigade A Troop 133 Cavalry.

enjoy http://www.trooptube.tv/.

Jay

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917 371 6790


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[videoblogging] Re: Defending Videographer's Rights in Court

2008-11-12 Thread liza jean
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Renat Zarbailov 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is that synchmaster, you speak of?

i wish i knew.  youtube won't tell.   there is no evidence they 
review our work, because if they did they would know there are no TOS 
violations in what we post.  we are PG-13 all the way.  

but take it as a fact.  we got up to a million channel views twice, 
and disappeared with no correspondence from youtube twice.  now we 
get deleted so fast we don't even bother to see how how the count got 
this time . . .   and all from one individual stalking us.

http://thedaredolldilemmas.blip.tv






 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, liza jean daredoll@ wrote:
 
  all they have to do to get them back up is shave a few frames off 
the 
  front and make a new account.  works for us every time, and then 
every 
  time (a million channel views and thousands of happy subscribers) 
  synchmaster finds them and flags them  and it all 
disappears. . . .
  
  
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Amirault 
  ramirault@ wrote:
   Great .. but .. it does not mean they are gone forever.
   
   Richard Amirault
   Boston, MA, USA
   http://n1jdu.org
   http://bostonfandom.org
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ
  
 





Re: [videoblogging] TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Adam Quirk
There are more than 2, and they all seem to be of the life shure is swell
demeanor http://www.trooptube.tv/videos/featured

I didn't know that Youtube was blocked by military IPs. That must be a very
recent thing, because there are a ton of uploaded videos on there from our
troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You can't make this out very well without logging in and friending her, but
in my cousin's facebook profile picture, she wrote the words I Hate Iraq
in the sand with her boot. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=47211212

That's the sort of thing that probably wouldn't fly on Trooptube.

*Adam Quirk* / Wreck  Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com /
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim)



On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It's actually not that bad.
  In a lot of places, when accessing the web from a .mil IP address sites
 are
  blocked (particularly consistently stateside). YouTube is one of the ones
  blocked. (
 
 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/trooptube-restores-streaming-video-to-our-nations-finest/
 )
  So, if you think about it, trooptube is pretty cool - every soldier has
  access to a public vid sharing site that is probably going to be visited
 by
  a higher density of users who care about/ can relate to what they're
  posting. It will likely help cut back on the youtube comments which lend
  themselves more to douchebaggery than to constructive support.
  I have to give it a thumbs up.

 Interesting that we have 2 widely different views here.
 obviously, the proof will be what is actually posted in the month.
 So far there are 2 videos.

 Will it be simply the army is great!...or will there be
 conversation, constructive criticism, and crazy antics that soldiers
 like to record of themselves.

 jay


 --
 http://jaydedman.com
 917 371 6790

 

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Re: [videoblogging] Lulu.com makes it to Amazon. P.A. Handbook

2008-11-12 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Bought a .pdf copy a couple of months ago; great stuff.

Jan

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Caleb J. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Merry NY Band.

 Well it's true for my book about how to be a good Production Assistant
 at least. If you self-publish a book on Lulu.com (on demand printer)
 with their free ISBN choice that uses them as the Publisher, but also
 retains copyright and cancellation with you,  it does make it to
 Amazon in two months or so. (They also have an option I think for $100
 where you are the publisher and can do multiple books.)

 http://www.amazon.com/Production-Assistants-Pocket-Handbook/dp/143575624X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1226413634sr=8-1

 They price it for one penny less then the price I set on Lulu, and I
 get less of a cut on LuLu. Cleaver. Write a review if you're read it!
 It's selling about 2 a day online, mostly PDF downloads which are
 about the same profit as the printed copy:
 http://www.noendpress.com/caleb/edtech/index.php

 Caleb (coffee bought from book sales tastes better) Clark


 

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Production Sound Mixer
air = 862-571-5334
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skype = janmclaughlin


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[videoblogging] Re: daredolls on C31

2008-11-12 Thread liza jean
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 will do, Channel 31 is Melbourne only (which is where I am). but 
apart  
 from telling me to watch it, can you give me a pitch? :-)

how about i send you a link to a 15 minute download?  we have been 
asked to revamp - change our 15 minutes to 24, remove a few closeups 
altho medium shots of the same subject are OK.  so the link i could 
send won't be exactly what will be aired.

but i need an email address for you.  you can reach me as daredoll at 
gmail.com.  send me the address you want me to send a link to.  

and that goes for anyone reading this.  with e-junkie we pay a 
monthly storage fee no matter how many downloads are delivered.  so 
anyone who wants a free sample, just get me an address to send to.

we will soon be taking some advice given here some time ago and 
posting an entire 15 minute chapter on blip.





 
 
 On 11/11/2008, at 1:00 AM, liza jean wrote:
 
  hey, look for The Daredoll Dilemmas on your Aussie airwaves early
  next year. we are told by an avid fan from Kilcunda that C31 from
  Melbourne will be airing our show, late at night. and he is 
trying to
  sell it to some larger stations there.
 
 
 cheers
 Adrian Miles
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 bachelor communication honours coordinator
 vogmae.net.au





Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

2008-11-12 Thread Adriana Kaegi
funny, after reading the official press release from youtube re: e-commerce 
platform, I called them, and was told two time that they do not offer such a 
service. I then contacted the PR person and she told me that they only offer 
this service to major record labels and only in the US for now. My question is, 
would anyone on this list click on a link embedded on a music video and buy the 
song from itunes this way?
a


--- On Tue, 11/11/08, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 7:46 PM
 This doesnt really add to the conversation; more of an
 aside:
 I made a video of me lipdubbing to a Spritualized song that
 was taken down
 off the Facebooks because of copyright.  Not sure how they
 would ever find
 it as I doubt many people looked at it, but I think it was
 because I
 actually credited them in text!
 
 Who knows.
 
 
 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
 AIM:schlomochat
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Pete Prodoehl
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Jay dedman wrote:
   I dont know if this is new, but i just noticed
 this on youtube.
   Miss B linked to this home video of a guy
 dancing:
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLBmniQbGX0
  
   If you scroll down, you see that it says
 buy this song on Amazon or
  iTunes.
   I wonder if the guy just uploaded the video using
 copyrighted music,
   but Youtube discovered the song and added the pay
 link.
   Does this fix the problem of copyrighted
 music?
   People can use commercial music and upload it to
 youtube, and they
   just add a link for purchase?
  
   Jay
 
  Dear god I hope not...
 
  Violating copyright law shouldn't be as easy as
 adding a 'buy it here'
  link.
 
  Also, what is the problem of copyrighted
 music? All of the music I
  create is copyrighted (by me) and I release almost all
 of it under a
  Creative Commons license which allows people to use it
 in various ways.
 
  Respect to artists, yo...
 
  Pete
 
   
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

2008-11-12 Thread David Terranova
Actually I can really see this working.

Already youtube has been used a lot for djs to preview tracks, and it¹s
becoming more and more popular. After listening to the track you then go to
a reseller (beatport, juno, etc) to buy the full quality track. It only
makes sense to be able to buy it directly from youtube.

Shame it¹s through itunes though.
 

--
David Terranova
www.davidterranova.com | blog.davidterranova | www.rebelrave.tv




From: Adriana Kaegi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:36:54 -0800 (PST)
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

 
 

funny, after reading the official press release from youtube re: e-commerce
platform, I called them, and was told two time that they do not offer such a
service. I then contacted the PR person and she told me that they only offer
this service to major record labels and only in the US for now. My question
is, would anyone on this list click on a link embedded on a music video and
buy the song from itunes this way?
a

--- On Tue, 11/11/08, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:schlomo%40gmail.com  wrote:

 From: schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:schlomo%40gmail.com 
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 7:46 PM
 This doesnt really add to the conversation; more of an
 aside:
 I made a video of me lipdubbing to a Spritualized song that
 was taken down
 off the Facebooks because of copyright.  Not sure how they
 would ever find
 it as I doubt many people looked at it, but I think it was
 because I
 actually credited them in text!
 
 Who knows.
 
 
 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
 AIM:schlomochat
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Pete Prodoehl
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:raster%40gmail.com  wrote:
 
Jay dedman wrote:
   I dont know if this is new, but i just noticed
 this on youtube.
   Miss B linked to this home video of a guy
 dancing:
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLBmniQbGX0
  
   If you scroll down, you see that it says
 buy this song on Amazon or
  iTunes.
   I wonder if the guy just uploaded the video using
 copyrighted music,
   but Youtube discovered the song and added the pay
 link.
   Does this fix the problem of copyrighted
 music?
   People can use commercial music and upload it to
 youtube, and they
   just add a link for purchase?
  
   Jay
 
  Dear god I hope not...
 
  Violating copyright law shouldn't be as easy as
 adding a 'buy it here'
  link.
 
  Also, what is the problem of copyrighted
 music? All of the music I
  create is copyrighted (by me) and I release almost all
 of it under a
  Creative Commons license which allows people to use it
 in various ways.
 
  Respect to artists, yo...
 
  Pete
 
   
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Heath
Well, since I was in the army, served in a war and now vlog, I guess 
I can chime in with my 2 cents.

It is my understanding that the Army blocked YT, Myspace and a few 
others on their networks, the reason being the use of bandwith and 
the potential for virus attacks...again this was on the military 
network, no different than my work blocking YT, myspace, facebook 
etcI mean they do pay me to work not visit the yahoo group..  :-)

I am sure some of it is concern that someone may let something slip 
that is classified, or that something may be shown etcand to be 
honest I can not blame themthey are in combatand there are 
very real security issues at stake.

So the military is making a site avaiable...who knows how it will 
work out, it may be crap, but if a soldier has access to some public 
internet, he could always use that to post videos, and they are still 
allowing them to use the military IP to post blogs, so I am inclined 
to believe that it was just a bandwith and security issue..

Let's just see before we go all postal on the military

And to all those that are serving or have family servingThank 
you

Heath A proud Vet



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There are more than 2, and they all seem to be of the life shure 
is swell
 demeanor http://www.trooptube.tv/videos/featured
 
 I didn't know that Youtube was blocked by military IPs. That must 
be a very
 recent thing, because there are a ton of uploaded videos on there 
from our
 troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
 You can't make this out very well without logging in and friending 
her, but
 in my cousin's facebook profile picture, she wrote the words I 
Hate Iraq
 in the sand with her boot. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?
id=47211212
 
 That's the sort of thing that probably wouldn't fly on Trooptube.
 
 *Adam Quirk* / Wreck  Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com /
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim)
 
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   It's actually not that bad.
   In a lot of places, when accessing the web from a .mil IP 
address sites
  are
   blocked (particularly consistently stateside). YouTube is one 
of the ones
   blocked. (
  
  http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/trooptube-restores-streaming-
video-to-our-nations-finest/
  )
   So, if you think about it, trooptube is pretty cool - every 
soldier has
   access to a public vid sharing site that is probably going to 
be visited
  by
   a higher density of users who care about/ can relate to what 
they're
   posting. It will likely help cut back on the youtube comments 
which lend
   themselves more to douchebaggery than to constructive support.
   I have to give it a thumbs up.
 
  Interesting that we have 2 widely different views here.
  obviously, the proof will be what is actually posted in the month.
  So far there are 2 videos.
 
  Will it be simply the army is great!...or will there be
  conversation, constructive criticism, and crazy antics that 
soldiers
  like to record of themselves.
 
  jay
 
 
  --
  http://jaydedman.com
  917 371 6790
 
  
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Adam Quirk
You're right, we should wait and see. I guess I did jump the gun a bit.

But my inner cynic has a really strong feeling that this is just more
propaganda and censorship wrapped in a package that says Internet.

*Adam Quirk* / Wreck  Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com /
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim)



On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, since I was in the army, served in a war and now vlog, I guess
 I can chime in with my 2 cents.

 It is my understanding that the Army blocked YT, Myspace and a few
 others on their networks, the reason being the use of bandwith and
 the potential for virus attacks...again this was on the military
 network, no different than my work blocking YT, myspace, facebook
 etcI mean they do pay me to work not visit the yahoo group..  :-)

 I am sure some of it is concern that someone may let something slip
 that is classified, or that something may be shown etcand to be
 honest I can not blame themthey are in combatand there are
 very real security issues at stake.

 So the military is making a site avaiable...who knows how it will
 work out, it may be crap, but if a soldier has access to some public
 internet, he could always use that to post videos, and they are still
 allowing them to use the military IP to post blogs, so I am inclined
 to believe that it was just a bandwith and security issue..

 Let's just see before we go all postal on the military

 And to all those that are serving or have family servingThank
 you

 Heath A proud Vet



 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  There are more than 2, and they all seem to be of the life shure
 is swell
  demeanor http://www.trooptube.tv/videos/featured
 
  I didn't know that Youtube was blocked by military IPs. That must
 be a very
  recent thing, because there are a ton of uploaded videos on there
 from our
  troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
  You can't make this out very well without logging in and friending
 her, but
  in my cousin's facebook profile picture, she wrote the words I
 Hate Iraq
  in the sand with her boot. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?
 id=47211212 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=47211212
 
  That's the sort of thing that probably wouldn't fly on Trooptube.
 
  *Adam Quirk* / Wreck  Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com /
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim)
 
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
It's actually not that bad.
In a lot of places, when accessing the web from a .mil IP
 address sites
   are
blocked (particularly consistently stateside). YouTube is one
 of the ones
blocked. (
   
   http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/trooptube-restores-streaming-
 video-to-our-nations-finest/http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/trooptube-restores-streaming-video-to-our-nations-finest/
   )
So, if you think about it, trooptube is pretty cool - every
 soldier has
access to a public vid sharing site that is probably going to
 be visited
   by
a higher density of users who care about/ can relate to what
 they're
posting. It will likely help cut back on the youtube comments
 which lend
themselves more to douchebaggery than to constructive support.
I have to give it a thumbs up.
  
   Interesting that we have 2 widely different views here.
   obviously, the proof will be what is actually posted in the month.
   So far there are 2 videos.
  
   Will it be simply the army is great!...or will there be
   conversation, constructive criticism, and crazy antics that
 soldiers
   like to record of themselves.
  
   jay
  
  
   --
   http://jaydedman.com
   917 371 6790
  
   
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Lulu.com makes it to Amazon. P.A. Handbook

2008-11-12 Thread Pete Prodoehl

I got the PDF last night, and pretty much read it straight through. 
Really nicely done. I recommend it.

Pete


Jan McLaughlin wrote:
 Bought a .pdf copy a couple of months ago; great stuff.
 
 Jan
 
 On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Caleb J. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Merry NY Band.

 Well it's true for my book about how to be a good Production Assistant
 at least. If you self-publish a book on Lulu.com (on demand printer)
 with their free ISBN choice that uses them as the Publisher, but also
 retains copyright and cancellation with you,  it does make it to
 Amazon in two months or so. (They also have an option I think for $100
 where you are the publisher and can do multiple books.)

 http://www.amazon.com/Production-Assistants-Pocket-Handbook/dp/143575624X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1226413634sr=8-1

 They price it for one penny less then the price I set on Lulu, and I
 get less of a cut on LuLu. Cleaver. Write a review if you're read it!
 It's selling about 2 a day online, mostly PDF downloads which are
 about the same profit as the printed copy:
 http://www.noendpress.com/caleb/edtech/index.php

 Caleb (coffee bought from book sales tastes better) Clark



Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

2008-11-12 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I agree; I think some viewers will click and purchase.
I also predict that videos on the youtubes will be obscured with dozens of
little text boxes.  All of them linking/selling/contextualizing the video to
death so that the video is just the delivery mechanism for these little
boxes of commerce and comments.

I'm only kinda kidding.  But I do kinda believe it.


Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:49 AM, David Terranova
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

   Actually I can really see this working.

 Already youtube has been used a lot for djs to preview tracks, and it¹s
 becoming more and more popular. After listening to the track you then go to
 a reseller (beatport, juno, etc) to buy the full quality track. It only
 makes sense to be able to buy it directly from youtube.

 Shame it¹s through itunes though.


 --
 David Terranova
 www.davidterranova.com | blog.davidterranova | www.rebelrave.tv

 From: Adriana Kaegi [EMAIL PROTECTED] a_kaegi%40yahoo.com
 Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:36:54 -0800 (PST)
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com 
 videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

 funny, after reading the official press release from youtube re: e-commerce
 platform, I called them, and was told two time that they do not offer such
 a
 service. I then contacted the PR person and she told me that they only
 offer
 this service to major record labels and only in the US for now. My question
 is, would anyone on this list click on a link embedded on a music video and
 buy the song from itunes this way?
 a

 --- On Tue, 11/11/08, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]schlomo%40gmail.com
 mailto:schlomo%40gmail.com schlomo%2540gmail.com  wrote:

  From: schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] schlomo%40gmail.commailto:
 schlomo%40gmail.com schlomo%2540gmail.com 
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.commailto:
 videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%2540yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 7:46 PM
  This doesnt really add to the conversation; more of an
  aside:
  I made a video of me lipdubbing to a Spritualized song that
  was taken down
  off the Facebooks because of copyright. Not sure how they
  would ever find
  it as I doubt many people looked at it, but I think it was
  because I
  actually credited them in text!
 
  Who knows.
 
 
  Schlomo Rabinowitz
  http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
  http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
  AIM:schlomochat
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Pete Prodoehl
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] raster%40gmail.com 
  mailto:raster%40gmail.comraster%2540gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Jay dedman wrote:
I dont know if this is new, but i just noticed
  this on youtube.
Miss B linked to this home video of a guy
  dancing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLBmniQbGX0
   
If you scroll down, you see that it says
  buy this song on Amazon or
   iTunes.
I wonder if the guy just uploaded the video using
  copyrighted music,
but Youtube discovered the song and added the pay
  link.
Does this fix the problem of copyrighted
  music?
People can use commercial music and upload it to
  youtube, and they
just add a link for purchase?
   
Jay
  
   Dear god I hope not...
  
   Violating copyright law shouldn't be as easy as
  adding a 'buy it here'
   link.
  
   Also, what is the problem of copyrighted
  music? All of the music I
   create is copyrighted (by me) and I release almost all
  of it under a
   Creative Commons license which allows people to use it
  in various ways.
  
   Respect to artists, yo...
  
   Pete
  
  
  
 
 
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[videoblogging] cheap xactiHD cam on Amazon

2008-11-12 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Hey all
Ran into a great deal on the XactiHD 700 on Amazon and thought some folks
here may be interested.  I've played around with it before (though I dont
own this model) and liked it.  Great cam for the price:


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9Z0T0?ie=UTF8tag=factorycity-20link_code=as3camp=211189creative=373489creativeASIN=B000W9Z0T0#productPromotions


And for $17 more, they throw in an 8gb card for it.


Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


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[videoblogging] Re: TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Steve Watkins
Arent soldiers more keenly aware of military censorship and propaganda than 
most?

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a slap in the face to the soldiers. It says we don't want you to
 use 'normal' methods of communication because we're afraid of what you'll
 say. Disgusting.
 
 My cousins in Iraq just update their facebook status, upload video to
 youtube, and send emails home like normal human beings.
 
 *Adam Quirk* / Wreck  Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com /
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim)
 
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Brian Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
  I actually like this idea. You get the benefits of YouTube features
  for the troops without the  Geraldo Rivera style let me show you
  exactly where we are in Iraq on live TV mistakes that the military
  wants to avoid.
 
  On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   I'm missing why they couldn't just use youtube ...?
   Whatever - cool that such a traditional arm of gov is starting to thaw a
   bit!
  
   if you read the post, sounds like they want more control over what
  military
   people post.
  
  
  Brian Richardson
   - http://siliconchef.com
   - http://dragoncontv.com
   - http://whatthecast.com
   - http://www.3chip.com
 
  
 
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Re: [videoblogging] TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Pete Prodoehl

Maybe they didn't like the YouTube terms of service.

I know I don't!  :)


Pete


David King wrote:
 I'm missing why they couldn't just use youtube ...?
 

   Things never cease to amaze me.
 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17556

 But the US Army has gone the other way, actively encouraging personnel to
 create their own videos for posting not on YouTube, but on TroopTube
 http://www.trooptube.tv/,
 


Re: [videoblogging] Re: TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Lil Peck
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Arent soldiers more keenly aware of military censorship and propaganda than
 most?



Yes, soldiers use Youtube and Facebook like 'regular' folks, LOL.
There is some pretty good stuff on Youtube that has been done by
soldiers and sailors.

I don't see anything on that military site that says anyone is forced
to use it instead of other services.

My daughter is a soldier.


Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

2008-11-12 Thread sull
In other words, video is the new webpage.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:57 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

   I agree; I think some viewers will click and purchase.
 I also predict that videos on the youtubes will be obscured with dozens of
 little text boxes. All of them linking/selling/contextualizing the video to
 death so that the video is just the delivery mechanism for these little
 boxes of commerce and comments.

 I'm only kinda kidding. But I do kinda believe it.


 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
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[videoblogging] Re: TroopTube (I shit you not)

2008-11-12 Thread Heath
Don't get me wrong Adam, part of me is cynical tooI mean serving 
does that to youyou see a lot of BS, covered in National 
Security.but I also know how careful you do have to be 
especially in this timethis is still all new to the military as 
well, the fact that they are even creating something like TroupTube 
blows me away.

But one thing I do know from being a soldieryou can always find a 
way to get your stuff out  :-)  

Heath

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You're right, we should wait and see. I guess I did jump the gun a 
bit.
 
 But my inner cynic has a really strong feeling that this is just 
more
 propaganda and censorship wrapped in a package that says Internet.
 
 *Adam Quirk* / Wreck  Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com /
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim)
 
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well, since I was in the army, served in a war and now vlog, I 
guess
  I can chime in with my 2 cents.
 
  It is my understanding that the Army blocked YT, Myspace and a few
  others on their networks, the reason being the use of bandwith and
  the potential for virus attacks...again this was on the military
  network, no different than my work blocking YT, myspace, facebook
  etcI mean they do pay me to work not visit the yahoo 
group..  :-)
 
  I am sure some of it is concern that someone may let something 
slip
  that is classified, or that something may be shown etcand to 
be
  honest I can not blame themthey are in combatand there are
  very real security issues at stake.
 
  So the military is making a site avaiable...who knows how it will
  work out, it may be crap, but if a soldier has access to some 
public
  internet, he could always use that to post videos, and they are 
still
  allowing them to use the military IP to post blogs, so I am 
inclined
  to believe that it was just a bandwith and security issue..
 
  Let's just see before we go all postal on the military
 
  And to all those that are serving or have family servingThank
  you
 
  Heath A proud Vet
 
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk quirk@ wrote:
  
   There are more than 2, and they all seem to be of the life 
shure
  is swell
   demeanor http://www.trooptube.tv/videos/featured
  
   I didn't know that Youtube was blocked by military IPs. That 
must
  be a very
   recent thing, because there are a ton of uploaded videos on 
there
  from our
   troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
  
   You can't make this out very well without logging in and 
friending
  her, but
   in my cousin's facebook profile picture, she wrote the words I
  Hate Iraq
   in the sand with her boot. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?
  id=47211212 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=47211212
  
   That's the sort of thing that probably wouldn't fly on 
Trooptube.
  
   *Adam Quirk* / Wreck  Salvage http://wreckandsalvage.com /
   quirk@ / +1 551.208.4644 (m) / imbullemhead (aim)
  
  
  
   On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ 
wrote:
  
 It's actually not that bad.
 In a lot of places, when accessing the web from a .mil IP
  address sites
are
 blocked (particularly consistently stateside). YouTube is 
one
  of the ones
 blocked. (

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/trooptube-restores-
streaming-
  video-to-our-nations-
finest/http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/trooptube-restores-
streaming-video-to-our-nations-finest/
)
 So, if you think about it, trooptube is pretty cool - every
  soldier has
 access to a public vid sharing site that is probably going 
to
  be visited
by
 a higher density of users who care about/ can relate to what
  they're
 posting. It will likely help cut back on the youtube 
comments
  which lend
 themselves more to douchebaggery than to constructive 
support.
 I have to give it a thumbs up.
   
Interesting that we have 2 widely different views here.
obviously, the proof will be what is actually posted in the 
month.
So far there are 2 videos.
   
Will it be simply the army is great!...or will there be
conversation, constructive criticism, and crazy antics that
  soldiers
like to record of themselves.
   
jay
   
   
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917 371 6790
   

   
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Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

2008-11-12 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Well that just depressed me.

Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:34 PM, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   In other words, video is the new webpage.

 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:57 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]schlomo%40gmail.com
 wrote:


  I agree; I think some viewers will click and purchase.
  I also predict that videos on the youtubes will be obscured with dozens
 of
  little text boxes. All of them linking/selling/contextualizing the video
 to
  death so that the video is just the delivery mechanism for these little
  boxes of commerce and comments.
 
  I'm only kinda kidding. But I do kinda believe it.
 
 
  Schlomo Rabinowitz
  http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
  http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
  AIM:schlomochat
 
 

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Re: [videoblogging] cheap xactiHD cam on Amazon

2008-11-12 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
And now there is a FlipHD camera that is just a little cheaper... though I
dont like the Flip cams as much as I do Xactis.
http://www.theflip.com/store/Minohd.aspx


Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I bought this camera last December for this same price special (although
 the
 8gb card i bought was $30).
 For $300, It's been a great camera. Though I think it should permanently be
 at around this price point.

 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:05 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]schlomo%40gmail.com
 wrote:


  Hey all
  Ran into a great deal on the XactiHD 700 on Amazon and thought some folks
  here may be interested. I've played around with it before (though I dont
  own this model) and liked it. Great cam for the price:
 
  
 
 
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9Z0T0?ie=UTF8tag=factorycity-20link_code=as3camp=211189creative=373489creativeASIN=B000W9Z0T0#productPromotions
  
 
  And for $17 more, they throw in an 8gb card for it.
 
  Schlomo Rabinowitz
  http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
  http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
  AIM:schlomochat
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

2008-11-12 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Just for conversations sake, what do you like about video is the new
webpage?
Sure, we already have banner ads on videos, what other webpagey thing
would you be excited about on your videos?

I really hope New Cinema will not want to be Old Webpage.


Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Adriana Kaegi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   that is the greatest thing i heard today
 video is the next webpage!
 yehh that makes me smile!

 --- On Wed, 11/12/08, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]schlomo%40gmail.com
 wrote:

  From: schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] schlomo%40gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 3:45 PM

  Well that just depressed me.
 
  Schlomo Rabinowitz
  http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
  http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
  AIM:schlomochat
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:34 PM, sull
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] sulleleven%40gmail.com wrote:
 
   In other words, video is the new webpage.
  
   On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:57 PM, schlomo rabinowitz
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] schlomo%40gmail.comschlomo%40gmail.com
   wrote:
  
  
I agree; I think some viewers will click and
  purchase.
I also predict that videos on the youtubes will
  be obscured with dozens
   of
little text boxes. All of them
  linking/selling/contextualizing the video
   to
death so that the video is just the delivery
  mechanism for these little
boxes of commerce and comments.
   
I'm only kinda kidding. But I do kinda
  believe it.
   
   
Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat
   
   
  
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[videoblogging] Net Neutrality paper

2008-11-12 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Since the issue keeps being brought up here on this list, thought I'd link
to something I just finished reading:
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9775

Lots of good points on how things can be done.  Just passing it along to
you.


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Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

2008-11-12 Thread Rupert
Just like making every letter and image clickable does not mean every  
webpage is now a useless mess of adverts, so making every pixel in a  
video clickable will not mean that videos become a useless mess of  
adverts.

It creates the possibility for us to create endlessly networked  
videos without using text, where moving people and things and parts  
of the frame will be clickable in just the same way that words and  
graphics are.

Web pages have moved from CLICK HERE blue underlined links to quiet  
intuitive links - words that only highlight when you roll the mouse  
over them and the coolness of the New York Times site where you can  
double click any word on the page to get a definition or history.

In the same way, hypervideo will soon move away from having visible  
overlays to tell you that you can Click here - you'll be able to  
tell what you can click by rolling your mouse over a person or a  
thing.  But we're just at the beginning, so there'll be some mess to  
begin with.

When it's mature though, we won't be able to believe that we ever  
watched inert TV and videos.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv

On 12-Nov-08, at 1:02 PM, schlomo rabinowitz wrote:

Just for conversations sake, what do you like about video is the new
webpage?
Sure, we already have banner ads on videos, what other webpagey thing
would you be excited about on your videos?

I really hope New Cinema will not want to be Old Webpage.

Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Adriana Kaegi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

  that is the greatest thing i heard today
  video is the next webpage!
  yehh that makes me smile!
 
  --- On Wed, 11/12/08, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]schlomo 
%40gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   From: schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] schlomo%40gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
   Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 3:45 PM
 
   Well that just depressed me.
  
   Schlomo Rabinowitz
   http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
   http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
   AIM:schlomochat
  
  
   On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:34 PM, sull
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] sulleleven%40gmail.com wrote:
  
In other words, video is the new webpage.
   
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:57 PM, schlomo rabinowitz
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] schlomo%40gmail.comschlomo%40gmail.com
wrote:
   
   
 I agree; I think some viewers will click and
   purchase.
 I also predict that videos on the youtubes will
   be obscured with dozens
of
 little text boxes. All of them
   linking/selling/contextualizing the video
to
 death so that the video is just the delivery
   mechanism for these little
 boxes of commerce and comments.

 I'm only kinda kidding. But I do kinda
   believe it.


 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
 AIM:schlomochat


   
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Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

2008-11-12 Thread Adriana Kaegi
What i like about video being the new webpage is that with a good video, you 
can get your message across without having to read, Nobody likes to read text 
on the screen. Also, I like the subliminal advertising via product placement in 
video content. If it is an obvious advertisement it can have hyperlinks = 
e-commerce solutions with an in the moment buying experience. How cool- to be 
able to get what you want when you want it. INSTANT gratification!
I worked on a demo like that years ago, so i am happy that we are getting
closer. 
I also do not like static pages, video can be interactive and viral it is much 
cooler then any static page and banners.. that is so old school. 
Hope that helps you understand my excitement. Do you agree?

Adriana Kaegi
http://dearaddy.com



--- On Wed, 11/12/08, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 4:02 PM
 Just for conversations sake, what do you like about
 video is the new
 webpage?
 Sure, we already have banner ads on videos,
 what other webpagey thing
 would you be excited about on your videos?
 
 I really hope New Cinema will not want to be Old Webpage.
 
 
 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
 AIM:schlomochat
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Adriana Kaegi
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
that is the greatest thing i heard today
  video is the next webpage!
  yehh that makes me smile!
 
  --- On Wed, 11/12/08, schlomo rabinowitz
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]schlomo%40gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   From: schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 schlomo%40gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
   Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 3:45 PM
 
   Well that just depressed me.
  
   Schlomo Rabinowitz
   http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
   http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
   AIM:schlomochat
  
  
   On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:34 PM, sull
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sulleleven%40gmail.com wrote:
  
In other words, video is the new webpage.
   
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:57 PM, schlomo
 rabinowitz
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 schlomo%40gmail.comschlomo%40gmail.com
wrote:
   
   
 I agree; I think some viewers will
 click and
   purchase.
 I also predict that videos on the
 youtubes will
   be obscured with dozens
of
 little text boxes. All of them
   linking/selling/contextualizing the video
to
 death so that the video is just the
 delivery
   mechanism for these little
 boxes of commerce and comments.

 I'm only kinda kidding. But I do
 kinda
   believe it.


 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to
 wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed
 coworking
 AIM:schlomochat


   
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Re: [videoblogging] cheap xactiHD cam on Amazon

2008-11-12 Thread sull
I bought this camera last December for this same price special (although the
8gb card i bought was $30).
For $300, It's been a great camera.  Though I think it should permanently be
at around this price point.


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:05 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

   Hey all
 Ran into a great deal on the XactiHD 700 on Amazon and thought some folks
 here may be interested. I've played around with it before (though I dont
 own this model) and liked it. Great cam for the price:

 

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9Z0T0?ie=UTF8tag=factorycity-20link_code=as3camp=211189creative=373489creativeASIN=B000W9Z0T0#productPromotions
 

 And for $17 more, they throw in an 8gb card for it.

 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
 AIM:schlomochat

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[videoblogging] Bid for Placement on YouTube

2008-11-12 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Ok, I promise to stop emailing the list for the rest of the day.  I know
I've been kinda talky today.
BUT!  I thought you may want to read about how you can pay for placement on
the Youtubes.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/youtube_puts_placement_of_user.php

Personally, this makes my stomach queasy, but you may be into paying for
placement.


Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


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Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

2008-11-12 Thread Adriana Kaegi
that is the greatest thing i heard today
video is the next webpage!
yehh that makes me smile!


--- On Wed, 11/12/08, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 3:45 PM
 Well that just depressed me.
 
 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
 AIM:schlomochat
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:34 PM, sull
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
In other words, video is the new webpage.
 
  On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:57 PM, schlomo rabinowitz
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]schlomo%40gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
   I agree; I think some viewers will click and
 purchase.
   I also predict that videos on the youtubes will
 be obscured with dozens
  of
   little text boxes. All of them
 linking/selling/contextualizing the video
  to
   death so that the video is just the delivery
 mechanism for these little
   boxes of commerce and comments.
  
   I'm only kinda kidding. But I do kinda
 believe it.
  
  
   Schlomo Rabinowitz
   http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
   http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
   AIM:schlomochat
  
  
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Lulu.com makes it to Amazon. P.A. Handbook

2008-11-12 Thread Caleb
BTW, if anyone on the list wants a free copy of the full PDF to  
review, or pass on to film/video teachers, just email me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.noendpress.com/caleb/edtech/



~
~ Caleb J. Clark
~ Portfolio: http://www.plocktau.com
~ The problem with communication is the assumption it has been  
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Re: [videoblogging] Bid for Placement on YouTube

2008-11-12 Thread Irina
this is gross

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:07 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

   Ok, I promise to stop emailing the list for the rest of the day. I know
 I've been kinda talky today.
 BUT! I thought you may want to read about how you can pay for placement on
 the Youtubes.

 http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/youtube_puts_placement_of_user.php

 Personally, this makes my stomach queasy, but you may be into paying for
 placement.

 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
 AIM:schlomochat

 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

  




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Re: [videoblogging] cheap xactiHD cam on Amazon

2008-11-12 Thread Tim Street
Back in the old days...I remember paying $4000 for 9 GB of memory for  
my Avid.

$17 for 8GB - Wow.


Tim Street
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://1timstreet.com/blog
http://twitter.com/1timstreet

On Nov 12, 2008, at 12:05 PM, schlomo rabinowitz wrote:

 Hey all
 Ran into a great deal on the XactiHD 700 on Amazon and thought some  
 folks
 here may be interested. I've played around with it before (though I  
 dont
 own this model) and liked it. Great cam for the price:

 
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9Z0T0?ie=UTF8tag=factorycity-20link_code=as3camp=211189creative=373489creativeASIN=B000W9Z0T0#productPromotions
 

 And for $17 more, they throw in an 8gb card for it.

 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
 AIM:schlomochat

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Re: [videoblogging] Bid for Placement on YouTube

2008-11-12 Thread sull
interesting.

imagine this together with crowdfunding efforts.
you can tap your network/community to raise money to get your video noticed.
maybe it's an important video message, or for promoting independent artists
or for local political campaigns etc etc.  i see nothing wrong with this.
it is, afterall, almost 2009.  we should be ready to accept such net video
concepts.

@sull


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

   Ok, I promise to stop emailing the list for the rest of the day. I know
 I've been kinda talky today.
 BUT! I thought you may want to read about how you can pay for placement on
 the Youtubes.

 http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/youtube_puts_placement_of_user.php

 Personally, this makes my stomach queasy, but you may be into paying for
 placement.

 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
 AIM:schlomochat

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Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song

2008-11-12 Thread Ron Watson
Very good article about reading v watching...
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081110_america_the_illiterate/
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Nov 12, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Adriana Kaegi wrote:

 What i like about video being the new webpage is that with a good  
 video, you can get your message across without having to read,  
 Nobody likes to read text on the screen. Also, I like the  
 subliminal advertising via product placement in video content. If  
 it is an obvious advertisement it can have hyperlinks = e-commerce  
 solutions with an in the moment buying experience. How cool- to be  
 able to get what you want when you want it. INSTANT gratification!
 I worked on a demo like that years ago, so i am happy that we are  
 getting
 closer.
 I also do not like static pages, video can be interactive and viral  
 it is much cooler then any static page and banners.. that is so old  
 school.
 Hope that helps you understand my excitement. Do you agree?

 Adriana Kaegi
 http://dearaddy.com

 --- On Wed, 11/12/08, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 4:02 PM
  Just for conversations sake, what do you like about
  video is the new
  webpage?
  Sure, we already have banner ads on videos,
  what other webpagey thing
  would you be excited about on your videos?
 
  I really hope New Cinema will not want to be Old Webpage.
 
 
  Schlomo Rabinowitz
  http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
  http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
  AIM:schlomochat
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Adriana Kaegi
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   that is the greatest thing i heard today
   video is the next webpage!
   yehh that makes me smile!
  
   --- On Wed, 11/12/08, schlomo rabinowitz
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]schlomo%40gmail.com
   wrote:
  
From: schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  schlomo%40gmail.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Buy this song
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 3:45 PM
  
Well that just depressed me.
   
Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat
   
   
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:34 PM, sull
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  sulleleven%40gmail.com wrote:
   
 In other words, video is the new webpage.

 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:57 PM, schlomo
  rabinowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  schlomo%40gmail.comschlomo%40gmail.com
 wrote:


  I agree; I think some viewers will
  click and
purchase.
  I also predict that videos on the
  youtubes will
be obscured with dozens
 of
  little text boxes. All of them
linking/selling/contextualizing the video
 to
  death so that the video is just the
  delivery
mechanism for these little
  boxes of commerce and comments.
 
  I'm only kinda kidding. But I do
  kinda
believe it.
 
 
  Schlomo Rabinowitz
  http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to
  wordpress
  http://hatfactory.net - relaxed
  coworking
  AIM:schlomochat
 
 

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Re: [videoblogging] Bid for Placement on YouTube

2008-11-12 Thread Brook Hinton
My eyes automatically block out google's sponsored links in searches, in
the same way they do ads, and I suspect any sponsored you tube video will
also be brain-filtered. It seems like a natural response and I would think
most people end up doing this - so I'm not sure spending any effort on
winning a sponsored video auction will prove worthwhile unless its an
overtly selling-something (like a pasta maker/espresso machine hybrid or
something) video. But maybe it's just me. I know if I search for something
in google, a few minutes later I can tell you the first few hits that came
up, but I can't tell you any of the stuff that was in that sponsored
section.


Brook


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film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


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Re: [videoblogging] Bid for Placement on YouTube

2008-11-12 Thread @sull
good point.
but there must be some value in featured spots.
maybe they have some metrics to share.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   My eyes automatically block out google's sponsored links in searches,
 in
 the same way they do ads, and I suspect any sponsored you tube video will
 also be brain-filtered. It seems like a natural response and I would think
 most people end up doing this - so I'm not sure spending any effort on
 winning a sponsored video auction will prove worthwhile unless its an
 overtly selling-something (like a pasta maker/espresso machine hybrid or
 something) video. But maybe it's just me. I know if I search for something
 in google, a few minutes later I can tell you the first few hits that came
 up, but I can't tell you any of the stuff that was in that sponsored
 section.

 Brook

 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


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[videoblogging] Re: Bid for Placement on YouTube

2008-11-12 Thread damiensomerset
This is not as evil as it sounds, because the placement won't be in
your regular search results.  Purchased placement will be on the right
column, just like Adwords.

Damien
http://ZapRoot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, @... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 good point.
 but there must be some value in featured spots.
 maybe they have some metrics to share.
 
 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
My eyes automatically block out google's sponsored links in
searches,
  in
  the same way they do ads, and I suspect any sponsored you tube
video will
  also be brain-filtered. It seems like a natural response and I
would think
  most people end up doing this - so I'm not sure spending any effort on
  winning a sponsored video auction will prove worthwhile unless
its an
  overtly selling-something (like a pasta maker/espresso machine
hybrid or
  something) video. But maybe it's just me. I know if I search for
something
  in google, a few minutes later I can tell you the first few hits
that came
  up, but I can't tell you any of the stuff that was in that sponsored
  section.
 
  Brook
 
  ___
  Brook Hinton
  film/video/audio art
  www.brookhinton.com
  studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Bid for Placement on YouTube

2008-11-12 Thread Jake Ludington


I know many of you would be opposed to buying ads to get your content 
noticed, but what makes this auction process different? You are effectively 
buying an ad. I know Gary V has purchased google adwords to promote some of 
his content, depending on his motive buying placement on YouTube might also 
make sense. If you have a crappy video, no amount of money will get people 
to watch it. Buying an ad can be the only option for a great video to escape 
obscurity.

As for Brooks' comment re: ignoring ads, someone must click on them because 
they pay me quite nicely. This will be no different. Some people will ignore 
promoted videos, some people won't.

Jake Ludington
http://www.jakeludington.com

On Nov 12, 2008 4:44 PM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

good point.
but there must be some value in featured spots.
maybe they have some metrics to share.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
My eyes automatically...



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[videoblogging] Re: Bid for Placement on YouTube

2008-11-12 Thread liza jean
we figured this was coming.  first two times youtube deleted us it 
was after we got a million channel views.  seemed we were required to 
upgrade somehow to continue being seen.

so, i wonder if my money is good with them.  wonder if i am protected 
from being deleted.  




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jake Ludington [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 I know many of you would be opposed to buying ads to get your 
content 
 noticed, but what makes this auction process different? You are 
effectively 
 buying an ad. I know Gary V has purchased google adwords to promote 
some of 
 his content, depending on his motive buying placement on YouTube 
might also 
 make sense. If you have a crappy video, no amount of money will get 
people 
 to watch it. Buying an ad can be the only option for a great video 
to escape 
 obscurity.
 
 As for Brooks' comment re: ignoring ads, someone must click on them 
because 
 they pay me quite nicely. This will be no different. Some people 
will ignore 
 promoted videos, some people won't.
 
 Jake Ludington
 http://www.jakeludington.com
 
 On Nov 12, 2008 4:44 PM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 good point.
 but there must be some value in featured spots.
 maybe they have some metrics to share.
 
 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 My eyes automatically...
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Bid for Placement on YouTube

2008-11-12 Thread Rupert
I don't have any more of a problem with this than I do the Sponsored  
Ads on Google.

Like Brook, I filter them out, but a lot of people don't -  so Google  
make billions of dollars of profit from them and from Adsense ads on  
other sites.  As I noted here before, Google's revenue and profit  
were up a third and a quarter respectively in Q3 2008 largely off the  
back of these things.

You're wrong if you think YouTube popular and featured videos aren't  
already gamed and bought.  It's a stinking den of corruption in  
there.  You should see the kind of bullshit tricks that 'viral'  
production and advertising companies pull to get their videos featured.

This is just making an honest and open auction of it.

If I had a client or a video that I think should get top billing for  
a niche subject, instead of trying to orchestrate some kind of  
incredibly spammy and unethical view-ramping campaign (and risk  
getting caught and deleted), I could just buy a sponsored slot.  On a  
site where something like 10 hours of video are being uploaded every  
minute, that's about as organic and fair a way of buying attention as  
I can imagine.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv

On 12-Nov-08, at 3:38 PM, sull wrote:

interesting.

imagine this together with crowdfunding efforts.
you can tap your network/community to raise money to get your video  
noticed.
maybe it's an important video message, or for promoting independent  
artists
or for local political campaigns etc etc. i see nothing wrong with this.
it is, afterall, almost 2009. we should be ready to accept such net  
video
concepts.

@sull

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, schlomo rabinowitz  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Ok, I promise to stop emailing the list for the rest of the day. I  
know
  I've been kinda talky today.
  BUT! I thought you may want to read about how you can pay for  
placement on
  the Youtubes.
 
  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/ 
youtube_puts_placement_of_user.php
 
  Personally, this makes my stomach queasy, but you may be into  
paying for
  placement.
 
  Schlomo Rabinowitz
  http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
  http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
  AIM:schlomochat
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bid for Placement on YouTube

2008-11-12 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
No no no no no. No. Nobody makes money on this shit except google. Vloggers
will make peanuts, and traditional clients aren't up to spending money on
such a risky spend.

This is the devaluation of content that I fear may be the ass end of the
democratization of media. I guess freedom ain't free.

Serial and artistic content does NOT belong on YouTube. They have put the
creator last from the beginning.


2008/11/13 liza jean [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   we figured this was coming. first two times youtube deleted us it
 was after we got a million channel views. seemed we were required to
 upgrade somehow to continue being seen.

 so, i wonder if my money is good with them. wonder if i am protected
 from being deleted.

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Jake Ludington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
 
 
  I know many of you would be opposed to buying ads to get your
 content
  noticed, but what makes this auction process different? You are
 effectively
  buying an ad. I know Gary V has purchased google adwords to promote
 some of
  his content, depending on his motive buying placement on YouTube
 might also
  make sense. If you have a crappy video, no amount of money will get
 people
  to watch it. Buying an ad can be the only option for a great video
 to escape
  obscurity.
 
  As for Brooks' comment re: ignoring ads, someone must click on them
 because
  they pay me quite nicely. This will be no different. Some people
 will ignore
  promoted videos, some people won't.
 
  Jake Ludington
  http://www.jakeludington.com
 
  On Nov 12, 2008 4:44 PM, @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  good point.
  but there must be some value in featured spots.
  maybe they have some metrics to share.
 
  On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My eyes automatically...
 
 
 
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