Re: [videoblogging] MP4/MOV Converter To FLV

2009-04-09 Thread Michael Sullivan
really?  interesting.
for mac,  i thought all you needed was Perian?

http://perian.org/

@sull

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Michael Verdi michaelve...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Adrian Miles 
 adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.auadrian.miles%40rmit.edu.au
 wrote:
  doesn't QT pro transcode to flv?

 It only does when you have the Flash Video Encoder (that comes with
 Flash) installed on your system.

 - Verdi

 --
 http://michaelverdi.com
  



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Re: [videoblogging] MP4/MOV Converter To FLV

2009-04-09 Thread Michael Sullivan
you could try this, which i use on occasion:

http://www.squared5.com/

also use visualhub, quicktime and adobe media encoder.

sull

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:21 PM, darbycoin scott.st...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hey all - so I'm on a mac. Check. And I've got this ONE video that
 everytime I upload it to Blip (it's a slideshow with audio voice over for a
 not for profit about organic lawncare) it won't convert it to Flash because
 there's apparently way to much white in some of the stills, and/or flashes
 of white between the stills that's making it kick it out of the converter
 and hence fails to convert to FLV all together. So I've been hunting for a
 good converter - and while I have used FFMPEG in the past - when I upload
 the video I converted with it - no matter what I do the Flash Video doesn't
 resize with the player. It's a small box within the box.

 So question 1: is there a setting I'm missing in FFMPEG so that the video
 resizes with the player. And/or
 2: Is there another FLV encoder out there for mac that might suit my needs?

 Thanks all!

 Cheers.
 Scott Stead
 www.scottstead.com
 www.documentaryclub.org

  



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Re: [videoblogging] MP4/MOV Converter To FLV

2009-04-09 Thread Michael Verdi
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Michael Sullivan sullele...@gmail.com wrote:
 really?  interesting.
 for mac,  i thought all you needed was Perian?

 http://perian.org/

 @sull


Oh maybe you are right. I thought that just let you watch flv files in
qt. I have them both installed so I guess I'm not sure what does what.

- Verdi


-- 
http://michaelverdi.com


[videoblogging] Re: MP4/MOV Converter To FLV - VIDEO ALL WHITE

2009-04-09 Thread darbycoin
Ok so I'm a knuckle head - just figured out that I have Flash + Quicktime Pro 
on my laptop (I was working on my old PowerPC tower and neglected that I don't 
have adobe suite on this thing). 

So I converted the video - and sure enough - it made the video ALL WHITE. I 
converted the .mov to MP4, i tried reencoding and still ALL WHITE VIDEO. 

All I can think of to do now is use Snaps X to completely recap the thing so 
the stream is out of the loop...any ideas why Flash would make the video all 
white? 
 
 Cheers.
 Scott Stead
 www.scottstead.com
 www.documentaryclub.org





Re: [videoblogging] YouTube will lose half a billion dollars this year

2009-04-09 Thread Adam Quirk
It's still early in the game. They're rolling out new revenue models all the
time. This one seems to be doing well:


 http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/04/09/youtube-launches-click-to-buy-in-eight-new-countries


 Credit Suisse analysts may have to revisit their estimate that YouTube will
lose $470 million this year.  The site has rolled out its Click-to-Buy
program - which is intended to result in quite a lot of revenue-sharing - in
eight new countries.

Click-to-Buy's best success
storyhttp://mashable.com/2009/01/22/youtube-boost-sales/ so
far has probably been that of Monty Python.  After the comedy troupe
launched a YouTube channel with links to Amazon, sales of one DVD boxed set
soared by about 23,000 percent.  Not bad for content that's a couple of
decades old, right?


On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM, J. Rhett Aultman
wli...@weatherlight.comwrote:

  ads don't work with ephemeral content.
 
  Surely that's exactly where they do work?  Most of the media we
  consume is ephemeral - TV, newspapers, online news, we see adverts
  alongside those things as they stream into our lives.   On-demand
  video is largely different from that, isn't it?  it's short and self-
  contained and chosen individually and unlike TV and news, it's not
  time-sensitive - it's actually less ephemeral.

 No; it's actually more ephemeral when you consider it from a position of
 total impact.  The overwhelming majority of YouTube videos reach tiny
 numbers of viewers who consume it once.  This bears no comparison to, say,
 TV or newspapers, which reach much larger audiences.  It also bears no
 comparison to media where there are smaller audiences that accept repeat
 exposure.  Such media are ripe for targeted product placement.

 But most YouTube videos simply don't make good raw material for an ad.
 The audience is small and not defined, the video will be seen once per
 viewer (who may not even make it the majority of the way through), the
 producer isn't available to exploit their relationship with the viewer to
 endorse things...it's basically an advertising void.

  But most of it - 97% apparently - is unmonetizable with advertising,
  because individual videos' viewing figures are too low - and maybe
  it's all too fragmented and uncategorizable, and perhaps advertisers
  are not prepared to see their adverts up against every little home
  video and copyright-infringing clip.  Even if those things eventually
  collectively gather millions of views and last for a lot longer than
  most ephemeral advertising-funded media.

 Again, consider ephemeral from a standpoint of overall cultural staying
 power, and not just from how long something is on a screen once, and
 you'll see that the YouTube videos are culturally ephemeral.  You actually
 touch on that issue in your above paragraph.

  According to Credit Suisse, YouTube seems to be making $50-100m from
  ads in videos, adjacent banners and sponsored videos.  That's as good
  as they can do all year, and they have 40% of the total online video
  market worldwide, at a time when online video is booming?

 Right, and this is because they're monetizing wrong.  Let's say that 40%
 of the car market, in terms of cars on the road, was GM's, and GM was
 found to be losing money badly.  In reality, it's because GM loses $1 per
 car they sell because they do everything wrong.  Is it valid to ask if
 cars as we know them will be viable?  No.  It's not that cars aren't
 viable.  It's that GM is doing it wrong.

  Sure, online viewership is tiny compared to TV, but the gap between TV
  and online video advertising seems to be disproportionately large.

 This could have everything to do with a casual numbers game not showing
 the real details.

  Especially when you'd imagine that online video would provide greater
  opportunities for more targeted  addressable advertising, supposedly
  the holy grail.

 Imagination isn't reality, though, and presupposition gets you nowhere.
 If YouTube isn't doing this sufficiently, then they're losing money.

  But the TV ad industry in the US alone is worth $80 billion, 60% of
  total advertising spend.  Superbowl ads this year earned NBC over
  $200m - that alone is perhaps between 2 and 4 times as much as
  Google's making all year from YouTube video ads.

 Of course, it's distorting to use the SuperBowl in a good comparison here,
 because it's well known that the SuperBowl is basically tulip season for
 advertisers.  People spend on those ads because they exist.  It's similar
 to how city after city hosts an Olympic Games but never profits on the
 venture.

 That said, I understand where you're trying to go with this, but you keep
 treating this as a problem with online video when, in fact, it's a problem
 with YouTube.  Your assumption is that, if YouTube can't do it, nobody
 can.  That itself only makes sense if you can prove that the only people
 capable of doing it are YouTube and what supporting engineers Google gives
 them.

  Is 

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube will lose half a billion dollars this year

2009-04-09 Thread Steve Watkins
Its interesting. Im not convinced that social networking sites like facebook or 
phenomenon such as twitter know how to make money, let alone video providers 
with their higher bandwidth costs.

There were a flurry of articles in recent weeks suggesting that Youtube is 
trying to get away from user generated content, and do more deals with the 
likes of Disney. They would still have user generated content, as a loss-leader 
that brings eyeballs to the site, but would be using the premium stuff to try 
to generate the big revenues. I half expected some concern about this from this 
group, especially as the already limited ability of individuals to promote 
themselves effectively via youtube  friends could be further eroded.

Ive little idea where its all going, I certainly worry about sustainability 
issues, bandwidth/hosting energy costs, lack of revenue, and Ive always been 
very skeptical of the silly numbers that used to get bandied around regarding 
potential advertising revenues. 

How have text bloggers and blog networks been faring in recent years? And 
podcasts for that matter.

Ive forgotten which visionaries used to talk big about the longtail in years 
gone by, I wonder what they think now, can anybody point me in the right 
direction?

I think I used to wonder whether this whole process would lead to the death of 
the ability to make silly money from media, even going as far as to think that 
most people will make stuff for the love of it in future, and do some other 
work to pay the bills etc. On the other hand I never thought that online music 
would utterly destroy the music industry, its changed it somewhat and maybe 
changed their revenues a bit, but they seem to have worked out how to use it 
for promotion and distribution without totally strangling themselves. 

The economies of scale are in a mess, unclear whether the wider economic woes 
of our age will mean we never get to see the 'natural conclusion' to this 
dramatic change, before the whole model of capital and borrowing against the 
future is wiped out by the realisation that we've borrowed against a future 
that will never exist.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rup...@... wrote:

 That's me - broad brush man.  Jack of all trades, master of none.  I  
 take your point, that it's horses for courses, but I still don't  
 understand the long term future of advertising for on-demand video.
 It's just not happening on anything like the scale of traditional  
 advertising, or even other online advertising.  Surely it's different  
 from text - not least in advertisers' ability to keep track of what  
 content they're being connected to and the costs of providing it?  And  
 I don't understand
 
  ads don't work with ephemeral content.
 
 Surely that's exactly where they do work?  Most of the media we  
 consume is ephemeral - TV, newspapers, online news, we see adverts  
 alongside those things as they stream into our lives.   On-demand  
 video is largely different from that, isn't it?  it's short and self- 
 contained and chosen individually and unlike TV and news, it's not  
 time-sensitive - it's actually less ephemeral.
 
 But most of it - 97% apparently - is unmonetizable with advertising,  
 because individual videos' viewing figures are too low - and maybe  
 it's all too fragmented and uncategorizable, and perhaps advertisers  
 are not prepared to see their adverts up against every little home  
 video and copyright-infringing clip.  Even if those things eventually  
 collectively gather millions of views and last for a lot longer than  
 most ephemeral advertising-funded media.
 
 According to Credit Suisse, YouTube seems to be making $50-100m from  
 ads in videos, adjacent banners and sponsored videos.  That's as good  
 as they can do all year, and they have 40% of the total online video  
 market worldwide, at a time when online video is booming?
 
 Sure, online viewership is tiny compared to TV, but the gap between TV  
 and online video advertising seems to be disproportionately large.
 Especially when you'd imagine that online video would provide greater  
 opportunities for more targeted  addressable advertising, supposedly  
 the holy grail.
 
 But the TV ad industry in the US alone is worth $80 billion, 60% of  
 total advertising spend.  Superbowl ads this year earned NBC over  
 $200m - that alone is perhaps between 2 and 4 times as much as  
 Google's making all year from YouTube video ads.
 
 Is online video really that unattractive to advertisers?  How is that  
 going to change?  It seems to me that at the moment, short on-demand  
 online videos are more attractive to the viewers than the advertisers,  
 and therefore that viewers are likely to pay more for them directly  
 than advertisers would.
 
 At the moment, they don't have to make the choice, because 40% of the  
 market is being subsidized by Google at a cost of $500m.  No other  
 business could sustain 

[videoblogging] Re: pc laptop

2009-04-09 Thread Steve Watkins
I cant see any particular reason why it would have a problem with video 
editing, seems like a fairly beefy spec. If you get Windows 7 when it comes 
out, it will feel like even more of a powerhouse as Vista is a tad bloated. And 
if you are editing high definition then maybe you'd want a screen with higher 
resolution, but you can always plug in an external screen if this becomes an 
issue for you.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Roshani Kothari roshanikoth...@... 
wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 After much searching, I am thinking about getting this laptop.
 http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satellite-U405-S2915-13-3-Inch-Laptop/dp/B001NEJO2M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=pcqid=1239212492sr=1-1
 
 http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/toshiba-satellite-u405-s2915/4505-3121_7-33497662.html?tag=mncol;lst
 
 Do you think it will be able to handle video editing?
 Any reason I shouldn't get it?
 
 Thank you.
 
 Roshani
 
 
 
 
   
 
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Re: [videoblogging] YouTube will lose half a billion dollars this year

2009-04-09 Thread Rupert
Yeah, you make a good case.  I can't really argue back any more than  
just to say that I was - probably naively - basing my impressions on  
an assumption that Google knows what it's doing as far as advertising  
is concerned, being impressed by their $20+bn/yr ad revenues.   I'd  
never really considered that Google would be GM-like in their handling  
of an important property like YouTube: handling it incompetently, not  
understanding the potential online video advertising market, not  
seeing the real opportunities, not giving YouTube the resources they  
need.  I had assumed that they're trying their absolute hardest not to  
lose half a billion dollars and that they haven't been able to make it  
work yet.  But perhaps you're right and they are indeed shackled by a  
GM-like existing situation with YouTube and don't know how to fix it.

And you're also right that I hadn't considered that YouTube would just  
end because it doesn't work - as the third most popular website, and  
something that Google paid $1.7bn for, I didn't see that coming about  
any time soon.  But with these kind of losses, maybe it will.  Unless  
they can find another way to fund all that bandwidth from those tiny  
amounts of viewers that advertisers aren't interested in - bandwidth  
that they're already paying well below market rate for.

I wasn't talking about Micropayment systems for direct payment, though  
- I was talking about the kind of dollar payments that people pay for  
media in places like the iTunes store.

And I see that you're saying it's just a problem with YouTube, not  
with online video, and that some of the best and most ready-to- 
monetize content isn't on YouTube.

I don't know what that content is, and I'd assumed that the vast  
majority of the most monetizable commercial online video is published  
on YouTube as well as wherever else it might go, just to capture the  
audiences.  So I didn't really understand the difference between the  
most monetizable online video and YouTube.

But you're probably right, there are probably lots of other options  
that I hadn't considered which mean that advertising in online video  
will suddenly become very successful and ubiquitous and pay per view  
won't become the dominant model for funding it all as I'd suggested.   
And maybe, to follow on from Jay's post about Time Warner as ISP and  
content creator, there are all sorts of other ways that we will end up  
paying for all this data that we've hitherto thought of as free.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv


On 8-Apr-09, at 6:09 PM, J. Rhett Aultman wrote:



  ads don't work with ephemeral content.
 
  Surely that's exactly where they do work? Most of the media we
  consume is ephemeral - TV, newspapers, online news, we see adverts
  alongside those things as they stream into our lives. On-demand
  video is largely different from that, isn't it? it's short and self-
  contained and chosen individually and unlike TV and news, it's not
  time-sensitive - it's actually less ephemeral.

 No; it's actually more ephemeral when you consider it from a  
 position of
 total impact. The overwhelming majority of YouTube videos reach tiny
 numbers of viewers who consume it once. This bears no comparison to,  
 say,
 TV or newspapers, which reach much larger audiences. It also bears no
 comparison to media where there are smaller audiences that accept  
 repeat
 exposure. Such media are ripe for targeted product placement.

 But most YouTube videos simply don't make good raw material for an ad.
 The audience is small and not defined, the video will be seen once per
 viewer (who may not even make it the majority of the way through), the
 producer isn't available to exploit their relationship with the  
 viewer to
 endorse things...it's basically an advertising void.

  But most of it - 97% apparently - is unmonetizable with advertising,
  because individual videos' viewing figures are too low - and maybe
  it's all too fragmented and uncategorizable, and perhaps advertisers
  are not prepared to see their adverts up against every little home
  video and copyright-infringing clip. Even if those things eventually
  collectively gather millions of views and last for a lot longer than
  most ephemeral advertising-funded media.

 Again, consider ephemeral from a standpoint of overall cultural  
 staying
 power, and not just from how long something is on a screen once, and
 you'll see that the YouTube videos are culturally ephemeral. You  
 actually
 touch on that issue in your above paragraph.

  According to Credit Suisse, YouTube seems to be making $50-100m from
  ads in videos, adjacent banners and sponsored videos. That's as good
  as they can do all year, and they have 40% of the total online video
  market worldwide, at a time when online video is booming?

 Right, and this is because they're monetizing wrong. Let's say that  
 40%
 of the car market, in terms of cars on the road, was GM's, and GM was
 found to be losing 

Re: [videoblogging] YouTube will lose half a billion dollars this year

2009-04-09 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
 I had assumed that they're trying their absolute hardest not to
 lose half a billion dollars and that they haven't been able to make it
 work yet.  But perhaps you're right and they are indeed shackled by a
 GM-like existing situation with YouTube and don't know how to fix it.

First off, having worked at Google, I know for a fact they're willing to
let a project bleed a little while they figure out what to do.  It can be
as simple as their current model was an attempt that didn't work.  I'm not
trying to call them GM so much as to just say that Google is not the end
all of online video.

 And you're also right that I hadn't considered that YouTube would just
 end because it doesn't work - as the third most popular website, and
 something that Google paid $1.7bn for, I didn't see that coming about
 any time soon.  But with these kind of losses, maybe it will.  Unless
 they can find another way to fund all that bandwidth from those tiny
 amounts of viewers that advertisers aren't interested in - bandwidth
 that they're already paying well below market rate for.

Well, I definitely think that Google would seriously lose face if they
didn't find a way to keep YouTube.  They will not do that unless they have
to.  However, online video exists beyond YouTube and I'd argue it's the
stuff beyond YouTube that's got the best chance at making real money. 
Others on here have noted some very simple ideas like a YouTube Business
site...nobody is doing this, and they need to.

 I wasn't talking about Micropayment systems for direct payment, though
 - I was talking about the kind of dollar payments that people pay for
 media in places like the iTunes store.

Yes, but as Clay Shirky points out, iTunes doesn't work because it
competes in the marketplace.  It succeeds because it stays separate from a
free market in online media.  Furthermore, the popularity of online video
right now is in its ability to be linked, embedded, and discussed.  If we
were to micropay for videos, then I'd be paying money for following links.
 I'll stop following them or I'll join groups to circumvent that wall.

This already happened with online text for the New York Times.  That model
went over poorly for them, and all you had to do was sign up for a lousy
account.

 I don't know what that content is, and I'd assumed that the vast
 majority of the most monetizable commercial online video is published
 on YouTube as well as wherever else it might go, just to capture the
 audiences.  So I didn't really understand the difference between the
 most monetizable online video and YouTube.

IMHO, The Escapist (http://www.escapistmag.com) has one of the best online
video systems going.  Zero Punctuation and Unskippable are hits, they have
plenty of internal ads which likely pay somewhat well, and they drive
their own merchandise sales.

 But you're probably right, there are probably lots of other options
 that I hadn't considered which mean that advertising in online video
 will suddenly become very successful and ubiquitous and pay per view
 won't become the dominant model for funding it all as I'd suggested.

It's worth remembering that advertising works in TV and print because
television shows and popular publications are *co-created* with the
advertising.  That is, the content is designed to work well with
advertisers, and the advertisements are tuned to work well with the
content.  You just can't do this in the YouTube model.  At a place like
The Escapist (or even a person's non-YouTube video blog), you can.

--
Rhett
http://www.weatherlight.com



Re: [videoblogging] YouTube will lose half a billion dollars this year

2009-04-09 Thread Rupert
Great. But if you look at the YouTube videos, the links are in the  
info panel, not in banners or overlays, so I don't know whether it's  
really a proper display of the effectiveness of annoying Click To Buy  
text overlays popping up over someone's home video containing a  
Britney Spears song.

Also, I love 'sales of one DVD box set soared by 23,000 percent'.   
Classic marketing use of statistics to blur meaning, being (dead)  
parroted by Mashable from YouTube's blog.  Especially with no  
reference to how many sold before, or over what period this was.  If  
they sold one copy per week of the box set before the channel  
launched, it'd mean the next week they sold 230.  If they sold 100 a  
day before the channel, it'd mean they sold 230,000 copies the next  
day.  Big difference.


On 9-Apr-09, at 9:22 AM, Adam Quirk wrote:



 It's still early in the game. They're rolling out new revenue models  
 all the
 time. This one seems to be doing well:

 
  http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/04/09/youtube-launches-click-to-buy-in-eight-new-countries
 

  Credit Suisse analysts may have to revisit their estimate that  
 YouTube will
 lose $470 million this year. The site has rolled out its Click-to-Buy
 program - which is intended to result in quite a lot of revenue- 
 sharing - in
 eight new countries.

 Click-to-Buy's best success
 storyhttp://mashable.com/2009/01/22/youtube-boost-sales/ so
 far has probably been that of Monty Python. After the comedy troupe
 launched a YouTube channel with links to Amazon, sales of one DVD  
 boxed set
 soared by about 23,000 percent. Not bad for content that's a couple of
 decades old, right?

 On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM, J. Rhett Aultman
 wli...@weatherlight.comwrote:

   ads don't work with ephemeral content.
  
   Surely that's exactly where they do work? Most of the media we
   consume is ephemeral - TV, newspapers, online news, we see adverts
   alongside those things as they stream into our lives. On-demand
   video is largely different from that, isn't it? it's short and  
 self-
   contained and chosen individually and unlike TV and news, it's not
   time-sensitive - it's actually less ephemeral.
 
  No; it's actually more ephemeral when you consider it from a  
 position of
  total impact. The overwhelming majority of YouTube videos reach tiny
  numbers of viewers who consume it once. This bears no comparison  
 to, say,
  TV or newspapers, which reach much larger audiences. It also bears  
 no
  comparison to media where there are smaller audiences that accept  
 repeat
  exposure. Such media are ripe for targeted product placement.
 
  But most YouTube videos simply don't make good raw material for an  
 ad.
  The audience is small and not defined, the video will be seen once  
 per
  viewer (who may not even make it the majority of the way through),  
 the
  producer isn't available to exploit their relationship with the  
 viewer to
  endorse things...it's basically an advertising void.
 
   But most of it - 97% apparently - is unmonetizable with  
 advertising,
   because individual videos' viewing figures are too low - and maybe
   it's all too fragmented and uncategorizable, and perhaps  
 advertisers
   are not prepared to see their adverts up against every little home
   video and copyright-infringing clip. Even if those things  
 eventually
   collectively gather millions of views and last for a lot longer  
 than
   most ephemeral advertising-funded media.
 
  Again, consider ephemeral from a standpoint of overall cultural  
 staying
  power, and not just from how long something is on a screen once, and
  you'll see that the YouTube videos are culturally ephemeral. You  
 actually
  touch on that issue in your above paragraph.
 
   According to Credit Suisse, YouTube seems to be making $50-100m  
 from
   ads in videos, adjacent banners and sponsored videos. That's as  
 good
   as they can do all year, and they have 40% of the total online  
 video
   market worldwide, at a time when online video is booming?
 
  Right, and this is because they're monetizing wrong. Let's say  
 that 40%
  of the car market, in terms of cars on the road, was GM's, and GM  
 was
  found to be losing money badly. In reality, it's because GM loses  
 $1 per
  car they sell because they do everything wrong. Is it valid to ask  
 if
  cars as we know them will be viable? No. It's not that cars aren't
  viable. It's that GM is doing it wrong.
 
   Sure, online viewership is tiny compared to TV, but the gap  
 between TV
   and online video advertising seems to be disproportionately large.
 
  This could have everything to do with a casual numbers game not  
 showing
  the real details.
 
   Especially when you'd imagine that online video would provide  
 greater
   opportunities for more targeted addressable advertising,  
 supposedly
   the holy grail.
 
  Imagination isn't reality, though, and presupposition gets you  
 nowhere.
  If YouTube isn't doing this 

[videoblogging] Can you put a swf file in a blog so you can have a submit button?

2009-04-09 Thread Daryl Urig
Can you place a swf file in a blog so you can have a data entry and submit 
button?

How is this dine.

Urig



[videoblogging] Re: Best Video Editing Software For H.264?

2009-04-09 Thread Gena
I was looking for something else and I found 
http://www.iorgsoft.com/Mod-Converter that has the ability to import MKV and 
possibly to export in that format as well. 

I've never used the program, but I do have a camcorder that records in the .mod 
format. It took a while to work out the conversion/editing problem.

It is only $29 and seems to come in a PC and Mac version.

Hope this helps,

Gena
http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Davis Freeberg da...@... wrote:

 The few video editing software programs I've used have been pretty basic and 
 disappointing.  Lots of bugs, limitations and crashing.  I'd like to upgrade 
 to something that lets me input h.264 files, edit them there and then export 
 into H.264/MKV.  Was wondering if anyone had an opinion on the programs I 
 should be looking at?  I'm a PC user, so that leaves out Apple.  I'd like to 
 find out which one is the best as well as the best one that doesn't cost an 
 arm or a leg.