Re: [videoblogging] tutorials new video bloggers and amatuer video producers
Word, somebody fix that please. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Irina irina...@gmail.com wrote: it still takes forever to get a good video out online lol compressing, processing blah blah blah On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I don't get what you mean :-) With video on mobile phones, YouTube as a dominant media platform (in the way that network TV never ever managed) I'm not sure what you mean by 'normal! haha Point well taken. I guess I mean on the actually creation side. Definitely its now normal for folks to watch a video online or their phones. That's the easy part. The consumer part. But im also excited to see the creation side picking up steam. With quality digital cameras between 100-200$, they'll soon be given out free like memory sticks. The real challenge is still the codec vs editing program vs OS issue. Developers and hardware manufactures got to get together. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] tutorials new video bloggers and amatuer video producers
It's easy - skip all that filming/editing/publishing bullshit. Now I just record things with my brain, and then write supportive comments to myself. It saves hours. On 2 Dec 2009, at 14:33, Adam Quirk wrote: Word, somebody fix that please. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Irina irina...@gmail.com wrote: it still takes forever to get a good video out online lol compressing, processing blah blah blah On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I don't get what you mean :-) With video on mobile phones, YouTube as a dominant media platform (in the way that network TV never ever managed) I'm not sure what you mean by 'normal! haha Point well taken. I guess I mean on the actually creation side. Definitely its now normal for folks to watch a video online or their phones. That's the easy part. The consumer part. But im also excited to see the creation side picking up steam. With quality digital cameras between 100-200$, they'll soon be given out free like memory sticks. The real challenge is still the codec vs editing program vs OS issue. Developers and hardware manufactures got to get together. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] tutorials new video bloggers and amatuer video producers
Good call. Is there a way to forego critical thinking altogether and just record and parse brain waves during REM sleep? That seems like a logical next step in creativity productivity efficiency. That is not a rhetorical question. If anyone reading this wants to help build such a thing, and happens to know a fun-loving neurologist, please email me. AQ On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Rupert rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: It's easy - skip all that filming/editing/publishing bullshit. Now I just record things with my brain, and then write supportive comments to myself. It saves hours. On 2 Dec 2009, at 14:33, Adam Quirk wrote: Word, somebody fix that please. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Irina irina...@gmail.com wrote: it still takes forever to get a good video out online lol compressing, processing blah blah blah On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I don't get what you mean :-) With video on mobile phones, YouTube as a dominant media platform (in the way that network TV never ever managed) I'm not sure what you mean by 'normal! haha Point well taken. I guess I mean on the actually creation side. Definitely its now normal for folks to watch a video online or their phones. That's the easy part. The consumer part. But im also excited to see the creation side picking up steam. With quality digital cameras between 100-200$, they'll soon be given out free like memory sticks. The real challenge is still the codec vs editing program vs OS issue. Developers and hardware manufactures got to get together. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] tutorials new video bloggers and amatuer video producers
I don't think so, but I think there's a Charlie Kaufman script in there somewhere. On 2 Dec 2009, at 15:20, Adam Quirk wrote: Good call. Is there a way to forego critical thinking altogether and just record and parse brain waves during REM sleep? That seems like a logical next step in creativity productivity efficiency. That is not a rhetorical question. If anyone reading this wants to help build such a thing, and happens to know a fun-loving neurologist, please email me. AQ On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Rupert rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: It's easy - skip all that filming/editing/publishing bullshit. Now I just record things with my brain, and then write supportive comments to myself. It saves hours. On 2 Dec 2009, at 14:33, Adam Quirk wrote: Word, somebody fix that please. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Irina irina...@gmail.com wrote: it still takes forever to get a good video out online lol compressing, processing blah blah blah On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I don't get what you mean :-) With video on mobile phones, YouTube as a dominant media platform (in the way that network TV never ever managed) I'm not sure what you mean by 'normal! haha Point well taken. I guess I mean on the actually creation side. Definitely its now normal for folks to watch a video online or their phones. That's the easy part. The consumer part. But im also excited to see the creation side picking up steam. With quality digital cameras between 100-200$, they'll soon be given out free like memory sticks. The real challenge is still the codec vs editing program vs OS issue. Developers and hardware manufactures got to get together. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] early days, blogs in different society and vogma manifesto
Hi Jay! Hi all of you! Thanks a lot for forwarding my email (to Joly - who?) and telling a bit about the early days. It's really helpful for my research because I hadn't been interested in web-videos at that time. Actually, I hadn't known about it before there was a local offer (just a platform with videos) for the town I lived in. General, web-tv is not too famous in Germany. Mostly, I have the feeling it's still an American trend (anyway, especially in tech-stuff, Europe is round about 4 years behind the US they say)... That's a really, really good question for social science or cultural anthropology if and why citizens of some societies are more interested in showing their everyday life But on the other hand the mainstream reality tv is quite famous in Germany, even though I think it goes down in some time. (It has been so long the favourite of the tv networks... ) But blogs are different. I think for a society blog and videoblog are a good way for real self-assurance. Why is it less usual in Germany (assumed it is like that): Maybe blogs are associated with narcissism. Also, we have a more or less strict liability to criticism. So with a Videoblog you are really vulnerable.. Just spontaneous speculation! What do you think? Can you tell me if the vogma manifesto was discussed within this group? I haven't found a wide discussion about it. Strange, if I had been there I would have had the necessity to discuss it in detail. A pity, five years too late ;-D. Have a nice day! Jenn --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: I agree, from 2005 on the Web-TV-community changes a lot because of YouTube. I divide the Web-TV-development in three parts: from 1993 until 2000 with pseudo.com, DEN and webisodes, 2000 until 2005 and the YouTube-era until today. That's a good way to break it up. Pseudo and Broadcast.com were doing all kinds of online video experiments. I assume youve seen http://www.weliveinpublicthemovie.com/. It's a fun documentary about Josh Harris who really spearheaded a lot of the online video scene during the first tech boom. When I started videoblogging in 2004, I couldnt find really anyone except a couple folks who were using blogs to post video. That was my big excitement: posting video to a blog so it was easy to publish regularly...so it could take advantages of the social aspect of vlogs...and could be archived. Much of the work from 1993-2003 was often erased...or unsearchable since they were videos w/out text on html pages. Or someone would post a video, then never post again. Good news is that much of that stuff is now being re-uploaded to Youtube. I'm cc'ing Joly on this email. He may be able to share some of his experiences in NYC in the early days. Actually, there are not so many German-speaking vlogs. Most formats tend to a genre I call videoprogram (those I am concentrating on), they are more a semi-professional produced show or magazine (like Rocketboom). One quite famous videoblog of the scene just gave up: She (Schnutingers Netrzkabarett) was bashed because of acting in a commercial . However, in Germany there are rather videoblogs of prominent people than those of average citizens: like Angela Merkel's videoblog http://www.bundeskanzlerin.de/Webs/BK/De/Mediathek/Videos/videos.html (it's stiff and a kind of deadpan but unintentionally funny), the former videoblog of a famous show master (the German David Letterman: Harald Schmidt) or one blog of a German journalist: http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-36686.html. Im often curious why videoblogging is more popular is some societies and not others. In Germany, is it a cultural thing not wanting to make a video about personal life? Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] tutorials new video bloggers and amatuer video producers
I cut out the writing bit and just think supportive comments. It's even faster. :-) On 03/12/2009, at 1:47 AM, Rupert wrote: It's easy - skip all that filming/editing/publishing bullshit. Now I just record things with my brain, and then write supportive comments to myself. It saves hours. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours vogmae.net.au
[videoblogging] $120 Wireless Mic review
I just discovered the Audio-technica ATR288W, seems almost too good to be true for $120...I'm sure the range is low, but I'm only needing 100 ft or less for documentation stuff and guest speakers, presenters, etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeQgc6zEYMofeature=related -- ~ Caleb Clark - Program Director, Marlboro College Graduate School: http://gradcenter.marlboro.edu/academics/mat/faculty - Portfolio: http://www.plocktau.com The problem with communication is the assumption it has been accomplished. - G. B. Shaw. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Day 30: 30 Day 30 People 30 Videos
What I'd really like, though, is to edit together the whole thing into one video as was suggested at the start. I tried earlier in the month, but was unable to download several of the entries from their various video hosting sites. Does anyone have the requisite download-fu to grab all of the videos and place them into a single sequence? I realize that the interactive and looping entries would need to be dumbed down for this sort of presentation, but I'd still love to bable to watch the whole game from start to finish. Any thoughts? Here we run into the wall of video formats/codecs. There's no easy way to grab all these videos. You have to go to each page and figure how to pull them off. Each format has its different requirements and tools to strip it off the page. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Day 30: 30 Day 30 People 30 Videos
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: What I'd really like, though, is to edit together the whole thing into one video as was suggested at the start. Here we run into the wall of video formats/codecs And in addition to the codec thing, you have the fact that a few of the entries aren't linear. I've been working on a site where we can continue playing games like this. I hope to have it up soon. One reason for building it is to address issues like this. So for example I've imported those 30 videos and built a way to see a grid of all the videos and then to easily page through them in order. I think that's probably best given the flexibility of the game. Then in the future I can customize the way new games work on the site depending on what we're trying to achieve. - Verdi -- Michael Verdi http://michaelverdi.com http://talkbot.tv
Re: [videoblogging] early days, blogs in different society and vogma manifesto
Thanks a lot for forwarding my email (to Joly - who?) and telling a bit about the early days. It's really helpful for my research because I hadn't been interested in web-videos at that time. Actually, I hadn't known about it before there was a local offer (just a platform with videos) for the town I lived in. Joly started Punkcast.com and has good stories recording NYC punk shows in audio/video starting in late 90's. Good article about him: http://www.villagevoice.com/2003-10-28/news/bootlegger-s-banquet/1 General, web-tv is not too famous in Germany. Mostly, I have the feeling it's still an American trend (anyway, especially in tech-stuff, Europe is round about 4 years behind the US they say)... That's a really, really good question for social science or cultural anthropology if and why citizens of some societies are more interested in showing their everyday life… But on the other hand the mainstream reality tv is quite famous in Germany, even though I think it goes down in some time. (It has been so long the favourite of the tv networks... ) But blogs are different. I think for a society blog and videoblog are a good way for real self-assurance. Why is it less usual in Germany (assumed it is like that): Maybe blogs are associated with narcissism. Also, we have a more or less strict liability to criticism. So with a Videoblog you are really vulnerable.. Just spontaneous speculation! What do you think? One way is to see people in the United States as narcissistic. Very very true in many ways. But I like to think that many of us are more open and craving community that was stripped out of US society the past century. It might not always come across in healthy ways, but open makes more sense than narcissistic. Making it up as we go along. Tear down the castles. Peter Van Dijck, from Belgian, actually started this group when he lived in NYC. He always told me that Americans were much more in your face and he liked it. Can you tell me if the vogma manifesto was discussed within this group? I haven't found a wide discussion about it. Strange, if I had been there I would have had the necessity to discuss it in detail. A pity, five years too late ;-D. Yes, Adrian Miles was one of the first members of the group. We discussed his Vogma Manifesto (http://vogmae.net.au/drupal/vog/tbd), though I dont think he found the most responsive audience to his academic leanings. We were (are?) a lot of riff raff. In 2005, Michael Verdi made the Vlog Anarchy manifesto in response here (http://michaelverdi.com/2005/02/20/vlog-anarchy/). I think a lot of us just starting making stuff instead of figuring out how to define it. But I have a side of me that likes to say this is this. Both are good at appropriate times. There's another group that sprung out of this one that focuses on dreamy tech and academic discussions: http://groups.google.com/group/artists-in-the-cloud Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Day 30: 30 Day 30 People 30 Videos
I've been working on a site where we can continue playing games like this. I hope to have it up soon. One reason for building it is to address issues like this. So for example I've imported those 30 videos and built a way to see a grid of all the videos and then to easily page through them in order. I think that's probably best given the flexibility of the game. Then in the future I can customize the way new games work on the site depending on what we're trying to achieve. We've always had trouble keeping tracks of entries in the games we play. Let er rip. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] early days, blogs in different society and vogma manifesto
there was also a list called vlogtheory too http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vlogtheory which might have some discussions you'd be interested in I think there was another? but maybe I've forgotten [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] early days, blogs in different society and vogma manifesto
oh there's video vortex now too (but it's more recent than below) http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/videovortex_listcultures.org 2009/12/3 Kath O'Donnell alia...@gmail.com there was also a list called vlogtheory too http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vlogtheory which might have some discussions you'd be interested in I think there was another? but maybe I've forgotten -- http://www.aliak.com http://www.brisbanedancepartiesarchive.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Day 30: 30 Day 30 People 30 Videos
one hack technique that i almost was going to spend an hour on the other night is the literally screen capture every video and then just stitch them all together. i use screenflow on the mac (and sometimes snapz pro as well). i've done this in some cases in the past and though it is unconventional, it does work well (enough). sull On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Jay dedman jay.ded...@gmail.com wrote: What I'd really like, though, is to edit together the whole thing into one video as was suggested at the start. I tried earlier in the month, but was unable to download several of the entries from their various video hosting sites. Does anyone have the requisite download-fu to grab all of the videos and place them into a single sequence? I realize that the interactive and looping entries would need to be dumbed down for this sort of presentation, but I'd still love to bable to watch the whole game from start to finish. Any thoughts? Here we run into the wall of video formats/codecs. There's no easy way to grab all these videos. You have to go to each page and figure how to pull them off. Each format has its different requirements and tools to strip it off the page. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] German-speaking videoblog scene + ReRe: Hello definition of videoblog
Hi Jenn, Nice to meet you! As a big fan of Ehrensenf, I'm curious: what other videoprogram-type vlogs are popular in Germany? Best, Kirstin http://www.digest.tv http://www.digest.tv http://www.twitter.com/kirstinbutler http://www.twitter.com/kirstinbutler --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, elaluca11 m...@... wrote: Thanks a lot, Jay and Irina! I had checked the first 20 messages from the beginning of this group before I signed in. Really interesting, not only because it's already 5 years old. I agree, from 2005 on the Web-TV-community changes a lot because of YouTube. I divide the Web-TV-development in three parts: from 1993 until 2000 with pseudo.com, DEN and webisodes, 2000 until 2005 and the YouTube-era until today. Actually, there are not so many German-speaking vlogs. Most formats tend to a genre I call videoprogram (those I am concentrating on), they are more a semi-professional produced show or magazine (like Rocketboom). One quite famous videoblog of the scene just gave up: She (Schnutingers Netrzkabarett) was bashed because of acting in a commercial . However, in Germany there are rather videoblogs of prominent people than those of average citizens: like Angela Merkel's videoblog http://www.bundeskanzlerin.de/Webs/BK/De/Mediathek/Videos/videos.html (it's stiff and a kind of deadpan but unintentionally funny), the former videoblog of a famous show master (the German David Letterman: Harald Schmidt) or one blog of a German journalist: http://www.spiegel.de/video/video-36686.html. Bye Jenn P.S. Irina, I'll check Geek Entertainment TV out! Thanks for it. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina irinaski@ wrote: hi jennifer i am happy to help u as well i am not like steve or jay from 2004 but i am from 2005 lol (november, honestly) we are still producing it if u can imagine still wordpress plus blip.tv i have done many shows since then and just started a new one for an online newspaper in sf. irina slutsky On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I am excited about the discussions in this community and the potential of so many people sharing thoughts about this topic! My first questions to you are: - Does someone know videoblogs founded from 2000 on (apart from Steve Garfield and Adam Kontras), English- or German-speaking ones? You should look in the archives of this group, started in 2004. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/messages/1?l=1 Here you will see how we were talking about videoblogs back then. Plenty of debates over the concept, term, and technical implementation. This is one of the frist messages of this group: (Peter and I) have had long talks about videoblogging and wanted to bring other people into the conversation. The ability to put video on blogs seems amazing to us, but there seem to be some obstacles. 1. Technically, the process takes too long.(capture, import, optimize, write some HTML, post). 2. existing servers don't allow much bandwidth and storage space. You'll either get screwed becasue too mnay people watch your posts, or you have to earse your archive video because youre out of space. 3. what is the language of videoblogging? is it little movies? or moments from your life? We believe that if we get interested people together, we'll answer all these questions. So this is the beginning. When this group started, there were only a few people who I found that were consciously posting video to blogs. Like Steve Garfield or Adrian Miles in Melbourne (http://vogmae.net.au/). Most people before 2004 seem to have posted video as an experiment as a one-off, were doing live video streaming, posted video to html pages (not blogs) so weren't easily searchable, or erased their archives. Here are some of the early folks in this group as seen from Videoblogging Week 2004. http://www.solitude.dk/archives/vog-week/ In mid 2005, Youtube beganso by 2006 there were tens of thousands of examples of videoblogs. - How do you define videoblog currently? (Mostly, I have the feeling the definition is blurred and quite a lot of different Web-TV-genres or types are subsumed under the concept of videoblog.) Ill let others jump in here. This is a well-traveled debate in this group that comes up every 6-8 months or so. By the way, I dont know many German videobloggers (maybe just Joel? http://joelart.blogspot.com/). In this group we have plenty of folks from Europe (see http://www.vlogeurope.com/) but no Germans. What's the state of videoblogging in Germany in your opinion? Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --
