Re: [videoblogging] camera

2010-01-26 Thread David Jones
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Tom Dolan tomjdo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Vid-folk,

 I had an interesting idea and I want to run it by you. A local but
 large pro camera shop might take in trade, a complete Pentax 35mm
 outfit. Xcellent condition, lenses, motor, etc... towards something
 else. I won't get what I think it's worth but I might be offered enuf
 to let it go. Now,

 Here's the conundrum: at different price levels starting lo and ending
 at about $6/800..(OK so I'm optimistic), what would you suggest I
 consider? It's got to work with iMac-iMovie'09, have an external mic,
 and I prefer flash memory over tape/hard-drive. BTW, I was surprised
 to see a Sanyo model mentioned here several times. I don't see them
 featured on the review sites, usually the same canon/sony/pana/etc
 stuff. My 1st 16mm camera was a Sanyo and it was pretty good.

 So what video cameras would YOU trade the 35mm system for? and I'm not
 into the Flip style camera for now.

 Go for it...and Thanx.

 Tom Dolan
 tomjdo...@gmail.com

The Sanyo Xacti HD2000 or HD1010 is by far the best bang-per buck in
that sort of price range, I am yet to see anything that comes close.
You don't see it promoted on the review sites because the gun style
form factor makes it look like a toy, but it far from it. In terms of
performance and features it gives any other brand camcorder at double
a triple the price a run for it's money.
That price would get you an Xacti HD flash camcorder, an external Rode
Videomic, and accessories.

The video quality, lens speed, and sensor size are hard to beat for
the price. It takes external mic, hot shoe, and lens attachments. Lack
of optical image stabilisation is the only real downside.

Dave.


[videoblogging] avoiding/cleaning hum noise

2010-01-26 Thread loretabirkus
Hello again,

I would like to know how you manage to record a sound with minimum hum in a 
room environment. I have a good microphone that I use for my filming, but I 
always get a huge hum sound if I film inside. 

I used Audacity to eliminate the background noise, but sometimes it doesn't 
work and it makes the voice sound weirdly alien :)

I even purchased a new Rode Videomic to see if there's any difference in the 
hum sound volume and I still get it with this mic as well.

Any tips how to eliminate as much as possible the hum noise during filming so 
that there's less work during editing? And how to eliminate the hum noise and 
keep a descent quality during the editing process?

I'm stuck on this now as I'm trying all ways (Audacity, Adobe Audition, Magic 
Audio cleaning softwares) to remove the noise and I don't get the results that 
I want.

Thanks much!

Loreta




Re: [videoblogging] avoiding/cleaning hum noise

2010-01-26 Thread David Jones
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, loretabirkus loretabir...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello again,

 I would like to know how you manage to record a sound with minimum hum in a 
 room environment. I have a good microphone that I use for my filming, but I 
 always get a huge hum sound if I film inside.

 I used Audacity to eliminate the background noise, but sometimes it doesn't 
 work and it makes the voice sound weirdly alien :)

 I even purchased a new Rode Videomic to see if there's any difference in the 
 hum sound volume and I still get it with this mic as well.

 Any tips how to eliminate as much as possible the hum noise during filming so 
 that there's less work during editing? And how to eliminate the hum noise and 
 keep a descent quality during the editing process?

 I'm stuck on this now as I'm trying all ways (Audacity, Adobe Audition, Magic 
 Audio cleaning softwares) to remove the noise and I don't get the results 
 that I want.

 Thanks much!

 Loreta

This hum might come from AC mains interference. Try using the camera
solely from the battery (no charger) and keep it away from all mains
wiring and equipment.

Dave.


Re: [videoblogging] 2010 the year of the tablet?

2010-01-26 Thread Adrian Miles
hi Steve

On 12/01/2010, at 3:42 AM, elbowsofdeath wrote:

 So, is this going to be the year that the tablet form factor finally  
 takes off? And if so, will it have many implications for vlogging?

potential to be breakthrough product/platform. Large enough screen to  
give decent 'cinematic' (for want of better term) experience, suitable  
for intimate viewing (like ipod/walkman for music), and if it is  
network aware then potential for smarts in the media. The heart of the  
matter is to be able to move from it just being a dumb viewing device.  
This is the killer aspect of course for the iPhone since apps and  
their access to the phone's smarts (data, GPS, voice, etc etc) shift  
it into a different category of device.

So here's hoping :-)



cheers
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Re: [videoblogging] 2010 the year of internet TV videoblogging

2010-01-26 Thread Adrian Miles
sort of like a Steenbeck? :-)

On 19/01/2010, at 10:16 AM, Richard Amirault wrote:

 I would LOVE to edit with a touch screen. just seems like it'd be  
 more fun
 and direct.




cheers
Adrian Miles
adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au
Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours
vogmae.net.au



Re: [videoblogging] 2010 the year of internet TV videoblogging

2010-01-26 Thread Rupert Howe
lol!

On 26 Jan 2010, at 10:26, Adrian Miles wrote:

 sort of like a Steenbeck? :-)

 On 19/01/2010, at 10:16 AM, Richard Amirault wrote:

  I would LOVE to edit with a touch screen. just seems like it'd be
  more fun
  and direct.

 cheers
 Adrian Miles
 adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au
 Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours
 vogmae.net.au


 



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Re: [videoblogging] camera

2010-01-26 Thread Julian Seery Gude
Hi Tom,

You mentioned the Sanyo's and their Xacti line is a big hit with many on this 
list and I'm one of them. 

To get an external mic you can go with the VPC-HD2000 which has a street price 
of $500 new (I think they listed for around $800). I really am a huge fan of 
the Xacti pistol grip format and I've used their entry level 720p offering the 
VPC-CG10 (sorry, no ext mic) to great satisfaction. Just last week I picked up 
an older VPC-HD1000 (does have ext mic) for $255 off eBay with lots of nice 
accessories (like a wide angle lens). 

I know a lot of people love the Canons. I believe Flash based units like the 
Canon Vixia HF200 are very good and in the price range of $550 street. 

Which leads me to a follow on question for the group. These HD videocameras 
need nice fast SDHC cards. Which ones have worked best for you?

Theoretically any modern Flash based HD camera should be shooting through a 
Class 6 or better card. I've read lots of good things about Class 10 cards and 
after pouring through reviews settled on the Patriot LX series. The 8GB unit is 
only $26 but really hard to find in stock. 16GB in the Patriot goes for $46 and 
is widely available. I hear that the Patriots compare very favorably with the 
Sandisk Extreme's which go for over double the price. Any experiences with 
Class 6 and Class 10 SDHC cards to share?

/julian

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On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:43 PM, Tom Dolan wrote:

 Hey Vid-folk,
 
 I had an interesting idea and I want to run it by you. A local but 
 large pro camera shop might take in trade, a complete Pentax 35mm 
 outfit. Xcellent condition, lenses, motor, etc... towards something 
 else. I won't get what I think it's worth but I might be offered enuf 
 to let it go. Now,
 
 Here's the conundrum: at different price levels starting lo and ending 
 at about $6/800..(OK so I'm optimistic), what would you suggest I 
 consider? It's got to work with iMac-iMovie'09, have an external mic, 
 and I prefer flash memory over tape/hard-drive. BTW, I was surprised 
 to see a Sanyo model mentioned here several times. I don't see them 
 featured on the review sites, usually the same canon/sony/pana/etc 
 stuff. My 1st 16mm camera was a Sanyo and it was pretty good.
 
 So what video cameras would YOU trade the 35mm system for? and I'm not 
 into the Flip style camera for now.
 
 Go for it...and Thanx.
 
 Tom Dolan
 tomjdo...@gmail.com
 
 





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Re: [videoblogging] avoiding/cleaning hum noise

2010-01-26 Thread Jay dedman
 I would like to know how you manage to record a sound with minimum hum in a 
 room environment. I have a good microphone that I use for my filming, but I 
 always get a huge hum sound if I film inside.

What camera do you use, or where do you place your mic? Some cameras
are notorious for their loud tape mechanism.

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Re: [videoblogging] avoiding/cleaning hum noise

2010-01-26 Thread Rupert Howe
Do you get a hum wherever you film inside, or particularly in one  
location?  Lots of household/office appliances that we can't hear or  
filter out make a big hum when recorded - air con, computers, fridges,  
etc.  Try being ruthless about shutting everything off when filming.   
Keep different types of cables away from each other, and if you need  
to cross them, do so at right angles.
Test whether it's the tape mechanism that's making a lot of noise by  
monitoring the audio with a good pair of headphones at a distance from  
the camera, both with and without the tape running.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv

On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:38, loretabirkus wrote:

 Hello again,

 I would like to know how you manage to record a sound with minimum  
 hum in a room environment. I have a good microphone that I use for  
 my filming, but I always get a huge hum sound if I film inside.

 I used Audacity to eliminate the background noise, but sometimes it  
 doesn't work and it makes the voice sound weirdly alien :)

 I even purchased a new Rode Videomic to see if there's any  
 difference in the hum sound volume and I still get it with this mic  
 as well.

 Any tips how to eliminate as much as possible the hum noise during  
 filming so that there's less work during editing? And how to  
 eliminate the hum noise and keep a descent quality during the  
 editing process?

 I'm stuck on this now as I'm trying all ways (Audacity, Adobe  
 Audition, Magic Audio cleaning softwares) to remove the noise and I  
 don't get the results that I want.

 Thanks much!

 Loreta


 



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Re: [videoblogging] camera

2010-01-26 Thread Rupert Howe
I still love the Canon HV20.  It's been superseded a couple of times,  
and I've heard much less about the HV30 and HV40 than I did about the  
HV20.  Everybody wanted one when they came out 2-3 years ago. I used  
to borrow a friend's for work, and never got round to getting my own.   
I've yet to see another camera in the same range with the same quality.

  I loved Quirk's video for the Navlopomo game, shot on an HV20,  
albeit with a 35mm Nikon lens adapter, which is probably more  
expensive than the camera (?).  http://www.vimeo.com/7730272
Or Valdez's videoblogging with HV30: http://www.vimeo.com/6143526

So if I had $600/800, I'd probably get one of those.

But I don't know what 2009's hottest mid-range HD camcorder was.

If I won a few grand on the lottery, I'd get myself an EOS 5D Mk2 with  
a nice lens, like a shot.

Rupert
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On 26 Jan 2010, at 04:43, Tom Dolan wrote:

 Hey Vid-folk,

 I had an interesting idea and I want to run it by you. A local but
 large pro camera shop might take in trade, a complete Pentax 35mm
 outfit. Xcellent condition, lenses, motor, etc... towards something
 else. I won't get what I think it's worth but I might be offered enuf
 to let it go. Now,

 Here's the conundrum: at different price levels starting lo and ending
 at about $6/800..(OK so I'm optimistic), what would you suggest I
 consider? It's got to work with iMac-iMovie'09, have an external mic,
 and I prefer flash memory over tape/hard-drive. BTW, I was surprised
 to see a Sanyo model mentioned here several times. I don't see them
 featured on the review sites, usually the same canon/sony/pana/etc
 stuff. My 1st 16mm camera was a Sanyo and it was pretty good.

 So what video cameras would YOU trade the 35mm system for? and I'm not
 into the Flip style camera for now.

 Go for it...and Thanx.

 Tom Dolan
 tomjdo...@gmail.com


 



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[videoblogging] Re: avoiding/cleaning hum noise

2010-01-26 Thread loretabirkus
Ruoert, 

I've filmed inside so far. But in this one particular location the hum sound is 
extremely big. I do have good earphones and I hear the sound in them as well. I 
haven't tried with the tape off, but I suspect that it's the camcorder 
mechanism in addition to the environment sound. I will try with the tape 
running and not. 

I usually don't use lots of cables. I just use charged battery and mic. Well 
this last time I did use a couple of lights. Maybe this could have added. I'll 
have to test that as well.

However, now that I have this huge hum is there any way to fix it during 
editing (rerecording is not an option). I did try EQ and different noise 
removal programs that I mentioned in my first email-they all still leave that 
alien sound either in the background or on the voice. I'm frustrated and it's 
stopping me from moving forward.

I was wondering if I don't use any noise removal programs, can I do smth with 
my editing software (Sony Vegas Platinum or Pro) at least to minimize the hum 
but leave the voice natural sounding?

Thanks again!

Loreta   

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote:

 Do you get a hum wherever you film inside, or particularly in one  
 location?  Lots of household/office appliances that we can't hear or  
 filter out make a big hum when recorded - air con, computers, fridges,  
 etc.  Try being ruthless about shutting everything off when filming.   
 Keep different types of cables away from each other, and if you need  
 to cross them, do so at right angles.
 Test whether it's the tape mechanism that's making a lot of noise by  
 monitoring the audio with a good pair of headphones at a distance from  
 the camera, both with and without the tape running.
 
 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv
 
 On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:38, loretabirkus wrote:
 
  Hello again,
 
  I would like to know how you manage to record a sound with minimum  
  hum in a room environment. I have a good microphone that I use for  
  my filming, but I always get a huge hum sound if I film inside.
 
  I used Audacity to eliminate the background noise, but sometimes it  
  doesn't work and it makes the voice sound weirdly alien :)
 
  I even purchased a new Rode Videomic to see if there's any  
  difference in the hum sound volume and I still get it with this mic  
  as well.
 
  Any tips how to eliminate as much as possible the hum noise during  
  filming so that there's less work during editing? And how to  
  eliminate the hum noise and keep a descent quality during the  
  editing process?
 
  I'm stuck on this now as I'm trying all ways (Audacity, Adobe  
  Audition, Magic Audio cleaning softwares) to remove the noise and I  
  don't get the results that I want.
 
  Thanks much!
 
  Loreta
 
 
  
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: avoiding/cleaning hum noise

2010-01-26 Thread loretabirkus
I meant Rupert. sorry for mistyping your name!

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, loretabirkus loretabir...@... wrote:

 Ruoert, 
 
 I've filmed inside so far. But in this one particular location the hum sound 
 is extremely big. I do have good earphones and I hear the sound in them as 
 well. I haven't tried with the tape off, but I suspect that it's the 
 camcorder mechanism in addition to the environment sound. I will try with the 
 tape running and not. 
 
 I usually don't use lots of cables. I just use charged battery and mic. Well 
 this last time I did use a couple of lights. Maybe this could have added. 
 I'll have to test that as well.
 
 However, now that I have this huge hum is there any way to fix it during 
 editing (rerecording is not an option). I did try EQ and different noise 
 removal programs that I mentioned in my first email-they all still leave that 
 alien sound either in the background or on the voice. I'm frustrated and 
 it's stopping me from moving forward.
 
 I was wondering if I don't use any noise removal programs, can I do smth with 
 my editing software (Sony Vegas Platinum or Pro) at least to minimize the hum 
 but leave the voice natural sounding?
 
 Thanks again!
 
 Loreta   
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rupert@ wrote:
 
  Do you get a hum wherever you film inside, or particularly in one  
  location?  Lots of household/office appliances that we can't hear or  
  filter out make a big hum when recorded - air con, computers, fridges,  
  etc.  Try being ruthless about shutting everything off when filming.   
  Keep different types of cables away from each other, and if you need  
  to cross them, do so at right angles.
  Test whether it's the tape mechanism that's making a lot of noise by  
  monitoring the audio with a good pair of headphones at a distance from  
  the camera, both with and without the tape running.
  
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv
  
  On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:38, loretabirkus wrote:
  
   Hello again,
  
   I would like to know how you manage to record a sound with minimum  
   hum in a room environment. I have a good microphone that I use for  
   my filming, but I always get a huge hum sound if I film inside.
  
   I used Audacity to eliminate the background noise, but sometimes it  
   doesn't work and it makes the voice sound weirdly alien :)
  
   I even purchased a new Rode Videomic to see if there's any  
   difference in the hum sound volume and I still get it with this mic  
   as well.
  
   Any tips how to eliminate as much as possible the hum noise during  
   filming so that there's less work during editing? And how to  
   eliminate the hum noise and keep a descent quality during the  
   editing process?
  
   I'm stuck on this now as I'm trying all ways (Audacity, Adobe  
   Audition, Magic Audio cleaning softwares) to remove the noise and I  
   don't get the results that I want.
  
   Thanks much!
  
   Loreta
  
  
   
  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: avoiding/cleaning hum noise

2010-01-26 Thread David Jones
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:58 AM, loretabirkus loretabir...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Ruoert,

 I've filmed inside so far. But in this one particular location the hum sound 
 is extremely big. I do have good earphones and I hear the sound in them as 
 well. I haven't tried with the tape off, but I suspect that it's the 
 camcorder mechanism in addition to the environment sound. I will try with the 
 tape running and not.

Don't mount your external mic on the camcorders hotshoe, the tape
mechanism noise can couple through to the mic. Even ones like the Rode
VideoMic that have specific rubber dampeners.

 I usually don't use lots of cables. I just use charged battery and mic. Well 
 this last time I did use a couple of lights. Maybe this could have added. 
 I'll have to test that as well.

 However, now that I have this huge hum is there any way to fix it during 
 editing (rerecording is not an option). I did try EQ and different noise 
 removal programs that I mentioned in my first email-they all still leave that 
 alien sound either in the background or on the voice. I'm frustrated and 
 it's stopping me from moving forward.

This alien sound could simply be the reverberations caused by the
room acoustics.

Dave.


Re: [videoblogging] 2010 the year of internet TV videoblogging

2010-01-26 Thread sull
ha!  http://www.steenbeck.com
never knew.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.auwrote:



 sort of like a Steenbeck? :-)


 On 19/01/2010, at 10:16 AM, Richard Amirault wrote:

  I would LOVE to edit with a touch screen. just seems like it'd be
  more fun
  and direct.

 cheers
 Adrian Miles
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 Program Director, Bachelor of Communication Honours
 vogmae.net.au

  



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Re: [videoblogging] avoiding/cleaning hum noise

2010-01-26 Thread Adrian Miles
hi

also don't forget the value of an atmos track for these situations.  
Record the room silent and then lay that beneath everything else. (No  
room is actually silent and this is standard practice.)

On 27/01/2010, at 12:54 AM, Jay dedman wrote:

  I would like to know how you manage to record a sound with minimum  
 hum in a room environment. I have a good microphone that I use for  
 my filming, but I always get a huge hum sound if I film inside.




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Re: [videoblogging] avoiding/cleaning hum noise

2010-01-26 Thread Joly MacFie
 Record the room silent and then lay that beneath everything else. (No
 room is actually silent and this is standard practice.)


and invert the phase!

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Re: [videoblogging] avoiding/cleaning hum noise

2010-01-26 Thread Rupert Howe
and set to stun!

On 27 Jan 2010, at 06:59, Joly MacFie wrote:

  Record the room silent and then lay that beneath everything else.  
 (No
  room is actually silent and this is standard practice.)
 

 and invert the phase!

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