Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:38:22 +0200, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some of the conventions of old media work really well for new media...making something new is just a matter of augmenting what we already know...we need a place to move from to get where we want to go... Exactly. Of course conventions from tv (or video) is a part of videoblogging. It's 50% of it. The videoblog is part blog, part video. When I yell up it's because I don't like seeing 100% video - when you've got all video, no blog there's no new media. You can create that if you like, but don't pretend that you're making new media and don't pretend that what you're making is particulary suited for the web. Just as text written for the web is not particulary suited for a book. What irked me with Jay's video was that videoblogs (an online media) was transformed into tv (offline media) and then put back online. I didn't (and still don't) understand why that's a good idea. Anyway, when doing videoblogging the biggest challenge is to figure out what parts of old media to use and what parts not to use (And then how to fuse these with blogging). In my opinion not very many want to think about that, and a potential is lost there. We've all figured out that a credits roll isn't working in videoblogs, but beyond that... We're back to the old definition discussion here. I don't want to define videoblogging because it limits my creativity. No, because you don't want to think about videoblogging as something different you are doomed to always create the same old media. By setting up boundaries and saying 'this is videoblogging, this is short films, this is tv' you are forced to think in news ways to utilize your creativity. We had some good talks (albeit short) in previous videoconferences about these things. About choosing perspective and realizing that you're not creating tv-programs, but shorter serials (because they work in a web that is made up of small pieces, loosely joined). I've been gushing about the Haberek series from Human-Dog in every other videconference for the past two weeks, and I don't mind gushing a bit more because I think it's one of the best examples of a work that could have been edited into a tv-program, but was made for web instead. If you haven't already you can watch the Haberek at URL: http://www.human-dog.com/lab/?cat=7 The Haberek could've been made into one big story - a 30 minute documentary about this teacher and his life at the school. Now Showing on PBS and all that. But it's not. Chris Weagel made the big story about Haberek into seven independent stories. These work great in the videoblog. You have the serial nature of blogs where the big story of the videoblog is unfolded as new entries are added, but at the same time each blog entry holds its own story. While subscribers will most likely see the entries in order (unless they choose to skip some) people can also view each entry as its own story. Conversation is spawned around each of the seven entries, because they are their own. I can create a blog entry of my own and link directly to the story I want to talk about. If I only want to make some kind of humerous comment on how the teachers hand toilet paper down the stall so the smoking students can't see them I can do that: URL: http://www.human-dog.com/lab/?p=186 Another example that works well is Josh Leo's and Bre Pettis' Speed-Vlog Showdown where each participant's individual videos had their own entries. It begins at URL: http://wearethemedia.com/2005/09/17/245/ . In the other camp I feel Josh's Video Block URL: http://joshleo.blogspot.com/2005/09/video-block.html would've worked much better as three seperate entries. These stories are not filmed and edited like tv. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
Just want to chime in here and say that I think Josh's Video Block worked the way he put it together, because he prefaced the video by saying that he had no ideas for a new video, so he just put these three 'random' ideas into the one video. What it showed me, was that what Josh thinks are lousy ideas are brilliant. On a bad day, Josh Leo's worst ideas equal the best ideas of other people. Andreas , your comment supports that by saying that they could have been stand alone videos. So what I got out of Josh's Video Block, is that exactly. Three of Josh's worst ideas strung together are good enough to be three stand alone videos, but from Josh's perspective they didn't deserve to be. On Oct 8, 2005, at 6:27 AM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: In the other camp I feel Josh's Video Block URL: http://joshleo.blogspot.com/2005/09/video-block.html would've worked much better as three seperate entries. --Steve ( Josh Leo Fan Club Memberships Start Here ) -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 04:31:13 +0200, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just uploaded the first screening at the Anthology Film Archives here: http://www.blip.tv/?id=2264;s=file I can't help wondering what made you put this monster of a file online when you could've done a list of links to blog entries. That's what this internet is great for - small pieces, loosely joined and all that. Then I could skip entries I'd already seen and not have to wait for a 150 MB download. And there would be actual attribution and people could find the vlogs of the contributors... I just don'e get it. I know that you have to create one big video for the showing, but I don't get why it's a good idea to put this online. I only made it approximately 60 MB into the video. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
Josh Leo wrote: On 10/7/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 04:31:13 +0200, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just uploaded the first screening at the Anthology Film Archives here: http://www.blip.tv/?id=2264;s=file I can't help wondering what made you put this monster of a file online when you could've done a list of links to blog entries. i watched the whole thing and i love that you put it all together! screw clicking 100 times. screw clicking is the new thing! Actually, I'd like to burn this to a DVD and watch it on my big TV. (It's not that big, but it's bigger than my monitor.) It would be cool if there was some sort of playlist and a player that supported that playlist to make it all easier though... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
I wish I could have seen this on the Big screen! It was nice seeing all vlogs together as one piece. -Chris-- http://www.chrisdanielvideos.com On 10/7/05, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i watched the whole thing and i love that you put it all together! screw clicking 100 times. On 10/7/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 04:31:13 +0200, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I just uploaded the first screening at the Anthology Film Archives here: http://www.blip.tv/?id=2264;s=fileI can't help wondering what made you put this monster of a file onlinewhen you could've done a list of links to blog entries. That's what thisinternet is great for - small pieces, loosely joined and all that. Then I could skip entries I'd already seen and not have to wait for a 150 MBdownload. And there would be actual attribution and people could find thevlogs of the contributors... I just don'e get it. I know that you have to create one big video for the showing, but I don't get why it's a good ideato put this online.I only made it approximately 60 MB into the video.- Andreas--URL: http://www.solitude.dk/Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leo joshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:46:08 +0200, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: screw clicking is the new thing! Blablabla, tv is awesome, the internets are teh suxor. It would be cool if there was some sort of playlist and a player that supported that playlist to make it all easier though... http://www.apple.com/quicktime/ - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
BTW, Andreas... Michael Verdi and I are going to try to set up a vidoeblog film screening in Second Life, an online virtual world. Michael has created a viewing screen there and we plan to use some kind of playlist to show the movies. Haven't figured out if we'll use SMIL or just put all the URLs together as a quicktime reference movie ++ for the Metaverse. -josh On 10/7/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice to have both, right? A list of the URLs for the whole list in addition to the large movie file. -Josh On 10/7/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:46:08 +0200, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: screw clicking is the new thing! Blablabla, tv is awesome, the internets are teh suxor. It would be cool if there was some sort of playlist and a player that supported that playlist to make it all easier though... http://www.apple.com/quicktime/ - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:17:15 +0200, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Verdi and I are going to try to set up a vidoeblog film screening in Second Life, an online virtual world. Michael has created a viewing screen there and we plan to use some kind of playlist to show the movies. Haven't figured out if we'll use SMIL or just put all the URLs together as a quicktime reference movie SMIL is probably faster to set up (and easier to control with pre-loading and chapters). - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
I can't help wondering what made you put this monster of a file online when you could've done a list of links to blog entries. That's what this internet is great for - small pieces, loosely joined and all that. Then I could skip entries I'd already seen and not have to wait for a 150 MB download. And there would be actual attribution and people could find the vlogs of the contributors... I just don'e get it. I know that you have to create one big video for the showing, but I don't get why it's a good idea to put this online. I only made it approximately 60 MB into the video. i love you andreas. yes, i should have put a list of the links. and yes, i love the power of a distributed network but Im old...32...and in the oldtime days, we just sat and watched long streams of uninterrrupted video...and this is a throwback to that time. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
Jay dedman wrote: but Im old...32...and in the oldtime days, we just sat and watched long streams of uninterrrupted video... I could be mistaken, but with SMIL, that is exactly what you would experience in a QT player. So the problem is that SMIL editing tools aren't popular and creators are unaware of the technology. Like XmlHttpRrequest, it's old technology that will create a buzz years after it's creation. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
Jay dedman wrote: andreas wrote: I only made it approximately 60 MB into the video. i love you andreas. yes, i should have put a list of the links. and yes, i love the power of a distributed network but Im old...32...and in the oldtime days, we just sat and watched long streams of uninterrrupted video...and this is a throwback to that time. Jay, don't you know the youth of today don't have that sort of attention span! You should have just pulled the first 5 seconds out of each video, run them through iMontage and added a rockin' soundtrack! That's what the kids want to watch! (I'm older than you though, so what do I know?) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
Charles HOPE wrote: Jay dedman wrote: but Im old...32...and in the oldtime days, we just sat and watched long streams of uninterrrupted video... I could be mistaken, but with SMIL, that is exactly what you would experience in a QT player. So the problem is that SMIL editing tools aren't popular and creators are unaware of the technology. Like XmlHttpRrequest, it's old technology that will create a buzz years after it's creation. I was surprised at how easy it was to add a SMIL file to my videoblog. It's pretty cool, if you just click the link, it *should* open in QuickTime player, and play the 10 most recent videos, with a little menu to allow you to just between the 'chapters' or specific videos. Any good pointers to examples of SMIL files? It looks like developer.apple.com has some interesting docs... Once I learn a bit more, I think I'll write this up. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
yeah add more sex and rock and roll...that is what gets the butts in the seatsor just keep on doing what your doing because it is kicking ass...I'm jealous of all who attended.On 10/7/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay dedman wrote:andreas wrote:I only made it approximately 60 MB into the video. i love you andreas. yes, i should have put a list of the links. and yes, i love the power of a distributed network but Im old...32...and in the oldtime days, we just sat and watched long streams of uninterrrupted video...and this is a throwback to that time.Jay, don't you know the youth of today don't have that sort of attention span! You should have just pulled the first 5 seconds out of each video,run them through iMontage and added a rockin' soundtrack! That's whatthe kids want to watch!(I'm older than you though, so what do I know?) Pete--http://tinkernet.org/videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: You can see it in many videoblogs with things such as intro sequences and credits (and in the discourse, but I don't know if we should go there). Let's go there. What are you seeing that is TV-like? YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
I like a quick intro sequence...I feel it is good for aggregators, where the videos are viewed out of the web page...it is like saying this is a josh leo video so that way, even if i don't appear in the video they know the creator, not to mention that I like the little tune in the beginning. and as for credits, the url at the end is so people who view it can stil know where it comes form it if ever makes it to a place without a url on that page... some of the conventions of old media work really well for new media...making something new is just a matter of augmenting what we already know...we need a place to move from to get where we want to go... On 10/7/05, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: You can see it in many videoblogs with things such as intro sequences and credits (and in the discourse, but I don't know if we should go there). Let's go there. What are you seeing that is TV-like? YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:15:00 +0200, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but Im old...32...and in the oldtime days, we just sat and watched long streams of uninterrrupted video...and this is a throwback to that time. Exactly! :o) It's all about the difference between online media and offline media. Videoblogs are online media with all that entails of granularity and such. That why I reacted when you took a collection of online media and assembled a piece of offline media (a video for a projector, basically tv). That's fine as long as you realise that in the process you loose everything that makes the online media different - you're devaluating the videoblog by transforming it into tv. I don't mind at all that Jay did this, as I know that the reason was to promote videoblogging, and I'm guessing it was made pretty clear that all of the material came from people videoblogging online. If that gets people interested and makes some of them look into videoblogging, then it's a good thing. But then you throw your tv-compilation back online without changing a thing. It's just offline media put online now - it *was* online media, but now it's *offline* media put on the web. For all the talk about 'new media' on this list it's a sad thing to happen. Again, I trust Jay and don't think he was trying to do any harm here. I think this discussion is valuable - can we come up with some alternative ways of doing what was done? Playlists for FireANT? SMIL files and QuickTime Player? ??? Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
Charles HOPE wrote: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: You can see it in many videoblogs with things such as intro sequences and credits (and in the discourse, but I don't know if we should go there). Let's go there. What are you seeing that is TV-like? All of my videos (so far) start with a sequence showing the title and the date, and end with a sequence showing the domain of my videoblog. I don't think this is too TV-like, I think it helps with branding. If I watched a stream of 20 videoblogs, it would help to know what came from where. I add the title, date, and domain name because I'm an archivist, and I want people to know when and where my work came from. I've been blogging for over 8 years, and making art for over 20 and I've come to learn that if you don't date things, you will regret it later. I have all this artwork, zines, flyers, audio, from the 1980's and 1990's and much of it I can't pin down to a specific year and it drives me mad. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
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[videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
Well I made it last night to check out the scene but arrived around 15 minutes late. It was a solid presentation and they did a great job of curating the show. I've been obsessed with watching stuff on people's vlogs lately so I had seen most of what was shown but seeing it on the large screen was great. Can anyone tell me what the first few videos were that I missed? I don't know if there is a list of what was shown last night anywhere floating around. If there is, maybe someone could post it. Thanks. Lynn docmaker.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
hey great to have met you lynn jay is going to post the whole program on the archive so everyone will be able to watch it the full way through. -ry On 10/6/05, Lynn Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I made it last night to check out the scene but arrived around 15 minutes late. It was a solid presentation and they did a great job of curating the show. I've been obsessed with watching stuff on people's vlogs lately so I had seen most of what was shown but seeing it on the large screen was great. Can anyone tell me what the first few videos were that I missed? I don't know if there is a list of what was shown last night anywhere floating around. If there is, maybe someone could post it. Thanks. Lynn docmaker.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- ~Ryanne Hodson~ Start a Free Videoblog...Right Now freevlog.org -- -transcending traditional media- http://ryanedit.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
Ryanne,I got there a bit late from a meeting and then had to rush out but wanted to say hello to you before I left. I had an editing meeting I had to make it to by 7:30. Looking forward to seeing what I missed.Best,Lynn Lynn Lanehttp://docmaker.blogspot.com On Oct 6, 2005, at 2:59 PM, ryanne hodson wrote: hey great to have met you lynn jay is going to post the whole program on the archive so everyone will be able to watch it the full way through. -ry On 10/6/05, Lynn Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I made it last night to check out the scene but arrived around 15 minutes late. It was a solid presentation and they did a great job of curating the show. I've been obsessed with watching stuff on people's vlogs lately so I had seen most of what was shown but seeing it on the large screen was great. Can anyone tell me what the first few videos were that I missed? I don't know if there is a list of what was shown last night anywhere floating around. If there is, maybe someone could post it. Thanks. Lynn docmaker.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- ~Ryanne Hodson~ Start a Free Videoblog...Right Now freevlog.org -- -transcending traditional media- http://ryanedit.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Last Night NYC Vlog Showing
Well I made it last night to check out the scene but arrived around 15 minutes late. It was a solid presentation and they did a great job of curating the show. I've been obsessed with watching stuff on people's vlogs lately so I had seen most of what was shown but seeing it on the large screen was great. Can anyone tell me what the first few videos were that I missed? I don't know if there is a list of what was shown last night anywhere floating around. If there is, maybe someone could post it. I just uploaded the first screening at the Anthology Film Archives here: http://www.blip.tv/?id=2264;s=file We will be holding 2 screenings per month. Its pretty amazing to see these videolbogs on the big screen. they translate well. We are looking for guest contributors for future shows. If you are interested, please email me offlist. what is expected is a list videoblogs at 50 minutes in length. we would like you to have some theme or logic worked out so they flow together. and if youre in NYCcome to the nest screening...and then to NODE101 on the weekends. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/