[videoblogging] Re: Business Week Article
Heather Green has written about Videoblogs before. I like that she's continued on the beat. -Josh I think it's great that she's continuing to write about videoblogs... and I also think it's hilarious that she hasn't learned anything new since the last time she wrote about videoblogging! Kitka Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Business Week Article
Thats funny that you would say that she hasnt learned anything new. You must not have been reading her blog or her other stories that she writes for BUSINESS week. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heather Green has written about Videoblogs before. I like that she's continued on the beat. -Josh I think it's great that she's continuing to write about videoblogs... and I also think it's hilarious that she hasn't learned anything new since the last time she wrote about videoblogging! Kitka Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Business Week Article
Though they don't give it a link, them lunkheads. And they don't mention that the endeavor is a viral meme of creativity that many people helped to create. And that Erik of Bottomunion created it! It's not your average show by a long shot. Carp Caviar has more to do with audience/ creator interaction and the constructs of advertising more than anything. Which just makes that smelly fish more admirable. schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://bayarea.node101.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carp Cavier is mentioned in Business Week?! hahahaha Fantastic! On 1/23/06, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who are interested, an article came out on Business Week today called Is the Web the New Hollywood: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2006/ tc20060123_227536.htm The article features Tiki Bar TV, Rocketboom and Ask A Ninja. Kitka http://www.kitkast.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig= _ypWGVVDWUSpuxYaJQCHhA Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=ZN 1ChvogeamDt5UU6pqRYQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=JJpiF0 el7XIZm7_UQJThew Explainshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Explainsw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=U JhUAw_ybLAhU1YhEOb9AA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Ted Tagami Principal, Universus Networks U N I V E R S U S . N E T Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Business Week Article
The writer asked people to submit their favorite vlogs in the comments of her blog a couple of weeks ago... this is how she found Carp Caviar, Tiki Bar TV, etc. I guess since Tiki Bar was the focus of the article, Carp Caviar had to take a back seat. Besides, the article was more focused towards show-type vlogs. Poor neglected carp... but at least they got a mention. Kitka --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, johngaltsjournal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though they don't give it a link, them lunkheads. And they don't mention that the endeavor is a viral meme of creativity that many people helped to create. And that Erik of Bottomunion created it! It's not your average show by a long shot. Carp Caviar has more to do with audience/ creator interaction and the constructs of advertising more than anything. Which just makes that smelly fish more admirable. schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://bayarea.node101.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carp Cavier is mentioned in Business Week?! hahahaha Fantastic! On 1/23/06, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who are interested, an article came out on Business Week today called Is the Web the New Hollywood: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2006/ tc20060123_227536.htm The article features Tiki Bar TV, Rocketboom and Ask A Ninja. Kitka http://www.kitkast.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig= _ypWGVVDWUSpuxYaJQCHhA Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=ZN 1ChvogeamDt5UU6pqRYQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=JJpiF0 el7XIZm7_UQJThew Explainshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Explainsw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=U JhUAw_ybLAhU1YhEOb9AA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Ted Tagami Principal, Universus Networks U N I V E R S U S . N E T Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Business Week Article
Devlon wrote: I know this discussion/rant comes up everytime this type of article comes out, but what is it going to take to get plain ole joe-schmo videoblogs to get a mention? The show ones are cool, don't get me wrong. Kitka, Tiki bar, they are my faves, but I love seeing the odd ball stuff about someone's dog, or geocashing, etc. and I know other people do too. I wish there was a way to get these reporters to see the value in the real reality of them Last summer: http://www.jsonline.com/news/wauk/aug05/350503.asp Of course tinkernet was just the lead in to the article about how churches were using videoblogs... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Business Week Article
Congrats on the press :) That's closer to what I like hearing about (I won't get into the church part of it) Thanks Pete. On 1/23/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon wrote: I know this discussion/rant comes up everytime this type of article comes out, but what is it going to take to get plain ole joe-schmo videoblogs to get a mention? The show ones are cool, don't get me wrong. Kitka, Tiki bar, they are my faves, but I love seeing the odd ball stuff about someone's dog, or geocashing, etc. and I know other people do too. I wish there was a way to get these reporters to see the value in the real reality of them Last summer: http://www.jsonline.com/news/wauk/aug05/350503.asp Of course tinkernet was just the lead in to the article about how churches were using videoblogs... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon Blog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Business Week Article
I gave the author of the article, Heather Green, a bunch of links to all kinds of vlogs and she thanked me and said they were fascinating. They didn't make it into her article though. I guess, since it's Business Week, the bias is toward vlogs w/major viewership. Big viewership=more $potential. It's Business week, not Let's Find Cool Grassroots Media With MInimal Cash Earning Potential Week. Still, if you can pitch the author on there being a $angle on cool little vlogs, she might be interested. At least I tried to pitch her some more off the beaten path vlogs. I guess the sure way to get press is to become very, very, popular. Then ya get press and become more popular and it kind of snowballs. Of course, becoming popular might mean sticking ot a particular format and working it really hard, and that ain't for everybody. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congrats on the press :) That's closer to what I like hearing about (I won't get into the church part of it) Thanks Pete. On 1/23/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon wrote: I know this discussion/rant comes up everytime this type of article comes out, but what is it going to take to get plain ole joe-schmo videoblogs to get a mention? The show ones are cool, don't get me wrong. Kitka, Tiki bar, they are my faves, but I love seeing the odd ball stuff about someone's dog, or geocashing, etc. and I know other people do too. I wish there was a way to get these reporters to see the value in the real reality of them Last summer: http://www.jsonline.com/news/wauk/aug05/350503.asp Of course tinkernet was just the lead in to the article about how churches were using videoblogs... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon Blog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Business Week Article
Yeah, I've done the same on the two occasions I've had the chance, but same results.On 1/23/06, jonny goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave the author of the article, Heather Green, a bunch of links to all kinds of vlogs and she thanked me and said they were fascinating. They didn't make it into her article though. I guess, since it's Business Week, the bias is toward vlogs w/major viewership. Big viewership=more $potential. It's Business week, not Let's Find Cool Grassroots Media With MInimal Cash Earning Potential Week. Still, if you can pitch the author on there being a $angle on cool little vlogs, she might be interested. At least I tried to pitch her some more off the beaten path vlogs. I guess the sure way to get press is to become very, very, popular. Then ya get press and become more popular and it kind of snowballs. Of course, becoming popular might mean sticking ot a particular format and working it really hard, and that ain't for everybody. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congrats on the press :) That's closer to what I like hearing about (I won't get into the church part of it) Thanks Pete. On 1/23/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon wrote: I know this discussion/rant comes up everytime this type of article comes out, but what is it going to take to get plain ole joe-schmo videoblogs to get a mention? The show ones are cool, don't get me wrong. Kitka, Tiki bar, they are my faves, but I love seeing the odd ball stuff about someone's dog, or geocashing, etc. and I know other people do too. I wish there was a way to get these reporters to see the value in the real reality of them Last summer: http://www.jsonline.com/news/wauk/aug05/350503.asp Of course tinkernet was just the lead in to the article about how churches were using videoblogs... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon Blog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.comVlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Business Week Article
Heather Green has written about Videoblogs before. I like that she's continued on the beat. -Josh On 1/23/06, jonny goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave the author of the article, Heather Green, a bunch of links to all kinds of vlogs and she thanked me and said they were fascinating. They didn't make it into her article though. I guess, since it's Business Week, the bias is toward vlogs w/major viewership. Big viewership=more $potential. It's Business week, not Let's Find Cool Grassroots Media With MInimal Cash Earning Potential Week. Still, if you can pitch the author on there being a $angle on cool little vlogs, she might be interested. At least I tried to pitch her some more off the beaten path vlogs. I guess the sure way to get press is to become very, very, popular. Then ya get press and become more popular and it kind of snowballs. Of course, becoming popular might mean sticking ot a particular format and working it really hard, and that ain't for everybody. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congrats on the press :) That's closer to what I like hearing about (I won't get into the church part of it) Thanks Pete. On 1/23/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon wrote: I know this discussion/rant comes up everytime this type of article comes out, but what is it going to take to get plain ole joe-schmo videoblogs to get a mention? The show ones are cool, don't get me wrong. Kitka, Tiki bar, they are my faves, but I love seeing the odd ball stuff about someone's dog, or geocashing, etc. and I know other people do too. I wish there was a way to get these reporters to see the value in the real reality of them Last summer: http://www.jsonline.com/news/wauk/aug05/350503.asp Of course tinkernet was just the lead in to the article about how churches were using videoblogs... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon Blog: http://devlond.blogspot.com Vlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: business week article
I checked out the article today because I wanted to see what you said. There were only about six comments (including my own). I didn't see anything from you. Maybe, they edit or delete comments they don't care for. - Original Message - From: Kunga To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:47 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: business week article I followed your lead 2.5 hours later and they published all 1000 characters - the limit. Nobody posted today. Surprising.-- Taylor Barcroft, New Media Publisher, Editor-In-Chief, VidcasterSanta Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valleyhttp://FutureMedia.orgOn Aug 26, 2005, at 6:59 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: I posted a comment on the Business Week article. Others should do likewise. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: business week article
we are referring to this article: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_36/ b3949087_mz063.htm My 1000 characters are obvious at the bottom, second in comments. Nickname: FutureMedia -- Taylor Barcroft, New Media Publisher, Editor-In-Chief, Vidcaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley http://FutureMedia.org On Aug 29, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: I checked out the article today because I wanted to see what you said. There were only about six comments (including my own). I didn't see anything from you. Maybe, they edit or delete comments they don't care for. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: business week article
My mistake. I looked for "Kunga". I also am use to limits on words (5 character each) and not on characters so I looked for a long piece. Liked the points you made. It is just amazing that there are so few comments on articles like this just as there are few comments left by those who view vlogs. What is it with this consume-without-reacting world in which you might see that something has been viewed 137 times and no one has left evenone comment? - Original Message - From: Kunga To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: business week article we are referring to this article: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_36/ b3949087_mz063.htm My 1000 characters are obvious at the bottom, second in comments. Nickname: FutureMedia-- Taylor Barcroft, New Media Publisher, Editor-In-Chief, VidcasterSanta Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valleyhttp://FutureMedia.orgOn Aug 29, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: I checked out the article today because I wanted to see what you said. There were only about six comments (including my own). I didn't see anything from you. Maybe, they edit or delete comments they don't care for. SPONSORED LINKS Rss reader Fireant Internet directory Individual Free rss reader YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: business week article
All my news group mail goes to my Kunga address. It's my Buddhist refuge name. Means All Joy. But i do not using it professionally at all. That is you won't see it anywhere but here including not in my sig. Even in the Flash meetings I now go by Taylor. I don't want to create confusion in the marketplace of ideas about what my name is any more. -- Taylor Barcroft, New Media Publisher, Editor, Multimedia Podcaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley http://FutureMedia.org Chosen One of The World's Best Video Diarists by London's The Independent online edition http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article308753.ece On Aug 29, 2005, at 3:56 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: My mistake. I looked for Kunga. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: business week article
Taylor, the email address you use for the yahoo group says your name is Kunga - see below. You should change that too. Mine used to say Michael Verdi but since there are so many Michaels I changed it to Verdi which people call me all the time for some reason. -- Verdi URL: http://michaelverdi.com/ URL: http://freevlog.org/ URL: http://node101.org/ On Aug 29, 2005, at 6:17 PM, Kunga wrote: I don't want to create confusion in the marketplace of ideas about what my name is any more. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: business week article
I am unclear how much we are allowed to express personal feelings in this space. Of course you are allowed to express personal feelings here. We try to be a friendly group, after all ;) Peter Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: business week article
Great stuff, Im not sick of it at all, and there always seems to be some new numbers or news thrown in to fascinate me. Wahey subscriptions for extra content, groovy, is there any chance this might incorrporate my requests to pay for a higher resolution rocketboom? Did I hear someone say something the other day about you and HD? Or if not, even a full DV res version would be nice. If that subscription idea is concrete and going ahead then I'll subscribe, whether or not its higher resolution, but Im just letting you know for market research purposes that at least 1 viewer wants a HD rocketboom :) What would I pay? Hmmm dunno say $10 a month with a lower price for a whole years subscription or something. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are probably sick of hearing about it, but I thought this was hands down, the very best article on Rocketboom yet. Comes out in the magazine tomorrow: http://tinyurl.com/dfz8k Heather Green (writer) went to more lengths to investigate the scene beyond any journalist I have ever heard of yet. In doing a story on Rocketboom, she really came to learn about videoblogging through talking with others and researching and asking millions of questions, meeting, observing, participating, fact checking, etc. Quite a treat indeed. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: business week article
The idea is basically this: 1. Rocketboom.com will always be free. No matter what changes in the world or in the future. Amanda and I have decided this a long time ago and still feel most strongly about this #1 principle. 2. Hopefully we can stay away from ads and pay for it by licensing it out to different platforms/content aggregators and especially, without dependence on any one entity, offer a subscription for people who want more: a. deliver an HDquality file, several hours earlier (ep. via bittorent/rss solution when possible) b. more content on a regular basis (e.g. out-takes, extra stories, video newsletter type videos) c. internal blog to find out about things coming down the pipe (a forum for story participation, writing, fact checking, etc) e. who knows whatelse, but mainly more content with Amanda and gang. 3. $3.50 a month is not a lot to ask for all of the extra Rocketboom stuff. We are going to start with this, no higher. You could get a music video on itunes for $2 or Rocketboom everyday for a month for $3.50. [ebay and credit companies, etc all take about .40-.50 per transaction, so that about $3]. 4. We have around 50,000/day now for free. What if only 1,000 people sign up (which many people think would be a lot). Thats $3000/mo. What if eventually we have an audience much larger that gets Rocketboom for free. Maybe some small percentage will begin to establish itself as a standard ratio. If we had 10,000 subscribers paying $3.50/mo thats $30,000 per month. Along w/T-shirts and maybe some chump change from the dying DVD market, and especially accompanied by licensing and creating other videoblogs, in the long run, I think it could pan out without selling out (when I say selling out, I simply mean selling ads like we may one day do if this doesn't work, or being co-opted by the main stream media which are in fact, all on the go]. 5. This is where we are going to really do some damage. Starting now I am about to put everything we have into diverting as much of the hype around everything that anyone says we are involved with towards a p2p, shared bandwidth model. Right now, in the state we are in, we are so lucky to have so much support. We are at the point now where most people without investors would crash and burn without a revenue and thus go into debt - because of bandwidth. But the solution is SO OBVIOUS!!! If you are not having bandwidth problems, no problem. If you are, and you have people that watch your videoblog everyday or every few days, get them on a technology schedule. Get a torrent, give them clients, tell them to d/l at THE SAME TIME! Its built in to the technology already to some degree, people dont need to do anything except instal once. So, to take this to scale, while most businesses that grow online, will always have the bandwidth burden that grows with them, a P2P/RSS solution gains like fusion: AS THE AUDIENCE GROWS, BANDWIDTH PRICES FALL and of course, d/l speeds increase. So thats the plan stan, any red flags? On Aug 26, 2005, at 2:00 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: Great stuff, Im not sick of it at all, and there always seems to be some new numbers or news thrown in to fascinate me. Wahey subscriptions for extra content, groovy, is there any chance this might incorrporate my requests to pay for a higher resolution rocketboom? Did I hear someone say something the other day about you and HD? Or if not, even a full DV res version would be nice. If that subscription idea is concrete and going ahead then I'll subscribe, whether or not its higher resolution, but Im just letting you know for market research purposes that at least 1 viewer wants a HD rocketboom :) What would I pay? Hmmm dunno say $10 a month with a lower price for a whole years subscription or something. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: business week article
I don't see a red flag, but I do see some possible short term growth pains. Even with the technology side covered as you speak of, it won't be an easy road. But, if you plan your @ss off, like it seems you are doing, then it will be that much easier to get over this short term growth hump. It really is interesting to see the birth and growth of a technology while still being able to hear from the actual people who are creating the revolution. I would compare it to being able to listen to the thoughts of Marc Andreesen or Jerry Yang back in 1994. Not saying that you are destined for anything, but it is an interesting time. Troy VLogList.com Submit your site http://www.vloglist.com/index.php?a=join --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea is basically this: 1. Rocketboom.com will always be free. No matter what changes in the world or in the future. Amanda and I have decided this a long time ago and still feel most strongly about this #1 principle. 2. Hopefully we can stay away from ads and pay for it by licensing it out to different platforms/content aggregators and especially, without dependence on any one entity, offer a subscription for people who want more: a. deliver an HDquality file, several hours earlier (ep. via bittorent/rss solution when possible) b. more content on a regular basis (e.g. out-takes, extra stories, video newsletter type videos) c. internal blog to find out about things coming down the pipe (a forum for story participation, writing, fact checking, etc) e. who knows whatelse, but mainly more content with Amanda and gang. 3. $3.50 a month is not a lot to ask for all of the extra Rocketboom stuff. We are going to start with this, no higher. You could get a music video on itunes for $2 or Rocketboom everyday for a month for $3.50. [ebay and credit companies, etc all take about .40-.50 per transaction, so that about $3]. 4. We have around 50,000/day now for free. What if only 1,000 people sign up (which many people think would be a lot). Thats $3000/mo. What if eventually we have an audience much larger that gets Rocketboom for free. Maybe some small percentage will begin to establish itself as a standard ratio. If we had 10,000 subscribers paying $3.50/mo thats $30,000 per month. Along w/T-shirts and maybe some chump change from the dying DVD market, and especially accompanied by licensing and creating other videoblogs, in the long run, I think it could pan out without selling out (when I say selling out, I simply mean selling ads like we may one day do if this doesn't work, or being co-opted by the main stream media which are in fact, all on the go]. 5. This is where we are going to really do some damage. Starting now I am about to put everything we have into diverting as much of the hype around everything that anyone says we are involved with towards a p2p, shared bandwidth model. Right now, in the state we are in, we are so lucky to have so much support. We are at the point now where most people without investors would crash and burn without a revenue and thus go into debt - because of bandwidth. But the solution is SO OBVIOUS!!! If you are not having bandwidth problems, no problem. If you are, and you have people that watch your videoblog everyday or every few days, get them on a technology schedule. Get a torrent, give them clients, tell them to d/l at THE SAME TIME! Its built in to the technology already to some degree, people dont need to do anything except instal once. So, to take this to scale, while most businesses that grow online, will always have the bandwidth burden that grows with them, a P2P/RSS solution gains like fusion: AS THE AUDIENCE GROWS, BANDWIDTH PRICES FALL and of course, d/l speeds increase. So thats the plan stan, any red flags? On Aug 26, 2005, at 2:00 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: Great stuff, Im not sick of it at all, and there always seems to be some new numbers or news thrown in to fascinate me. Wahey subscriptions for extra content, groovy, is there any chance this might incorrporate my requests to pay for a higher resolution rocketboom? Did I hear someone say something the other day about you and HD? Or if not, even a full DV res version would be nice. If that subscription idea is concrete and going ahead then I'll subscribe, whether or not its higher resolution, but Im just letting you know for market research purposes that at least 1 viewer wants a HD rocketboom :) What would I pay? Hmmm dunno say $10 a month with a lower price for a whole years subscription or something. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
Re: [videoblogging] Re: business week article
I posted a comment on the Business Week article. Others should do likewise. I was surprised at how much work and rehearsal went into the daily Rocketboom Show. I always admired their polish. I just never realized that "polish" is 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration. Rocketboom's popularity also shows that there is a very real and growing audience for vlogs with consistent quality and theme. - Original Message - From: Steve Watkins To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: business week article Great stuff, Im not sick of it at all, and there always seems to besome new numbers or news thrown in to fascinate me.Wahey subscriptions for extra content, groovy, is there any chancethis might incorrporate my requests to pay for a higher resolutionrocketboom? Did I hear someone say something the other day about youand HD? Or if not, even a full DV res version would be nice.If that subscription idea is concrete and going ahead then I'llsubscribe, whether or not its higher resolution, but Im just lettingyou know for market research purposes that at least 1 viewer wants aHD rocketboom :) What would I pay? Hmmm dunno say $10 a month with alower price for a whole years subscription or something.Steve of Elbows--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are probably sick of hearing about it, but I thought this was hands down, the very best article on Rocketboom yet. Comes out in the magazine tomorrow: http://tinyurl.com/dfz8k Heather Green (writer) went to more lengths to investigate the scene beyond any journalist I have ever heard of yet. In doing a story on Rocketboom, she really came to learn about videoblogging through talking with others and researching and asking millions of questions, meeting, observing, participating, fact checking, etc. Quite a treat indeed. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: business week article
That was extremely generous of you to share with us Andrew. You are very well grounded. Anyone have some links on the implementation of #5? Get a torrent, give them clients, tell them to d/l at THE SAME TIME! Its built in to the technology already to some degree, people dont need to do anything except instal once. So, to take this to scale, while most businesses that grow online, will always have the bandwidth burden that grows with them, a P2P/RSS solution gains like fusion: AS THE AUDIENCE GROWS, BANDWIDTH PRICES FALL and of course, d/l speeds increase. I need to educate myself on what that means. Please. I would like to understand how to offer such a client asap. Is that what ANT is? I am very ignorant on this front. -- Taylor Barcroft, New Media Vidcaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley http://FutureMedia.org On Aug 26, 2005, at 11:53 AM, andrew michael baron wrote: The idea is basically this: ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: business week article
I find myself near crying a lot about what is happening here. Is that too personal a comment to make on this list? I am unclear how much we are allowed to express personal feelings in this space. I think you all are creating an entirely new medium out of the parts of the past combined with the power of the future. I think this summer will be looked back as one of the greatest moments in communications history. But that's just me. I could me wrong. -- Taylor Barcroft, New Media Vidcaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley http://FutureMedia.org On Aug 26, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Troy LeMaire wrote: It really is interesting to see the birth and growth of a technology while still being able to hear from the actual people who are creating the revolution. I would compare it to being able to listen to the thoughts of Marc Andreesen or Jerry Yang back in 1994. Not saying that you are destined for anything, but it is an interesting time. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
