[videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake
Another option that might work, if you cant find the techies to make your own site, is to go with a 'white label' solution, where other companies provide the functionality system, but branded to your requirements. You dont have to worry about the technical aspect at all then. For example, social networking white label products might do what you need, include: http://www.ning.com/ http://kickapps.com/ Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for the offer Lori :) I don't live in the US though have only been there once on a holiday. I'll ask around, but can't promise anything - I know a few drupal devs/admins who've worked on community sites, but I don't know any joomla admins (though there are thousands out there!) maybe there's others on the list who could help out. your site is good - easy to navigate and find info. so I think if u can do that, the cms will be a breeze for u! (sorry for delayed reply) kath On 8/24/07, Sunrix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kath, you are simply amazing. Is there any way I can compensate you or return the favor? We have furnished guest suites here at Green TV if you need a mini-vacation free to you. I have decided to go with the still photo postings like cu.naturalhome mag (actually to emulate the site) and now just need to find someone to help me build it. I created my GreenTV.com site from scratch yet this is going to require expertise. If you know (or can find) someone, I will compensate both you and them. Again, my utmost and sincere appreciation.. Lori Lake -- http://www.aliak.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake
thanks for the offer Lori :) I don't live in the US though have only been there once on a holiday. I'll ask around, but can't promise anything - I know a few drupal devs/admins who've worked on community sites, but I don't know any joomla admins (though there are thousands out there!) maybe there's others on the list who could help out. your site is good - easy to navigate and find info. so I think if u can do that, the cms will be a breeze for u! (sorry for delayed reply) kath On 8/24/07, Sunrix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kath, you are simply amazing. Is there any way I can compensate you or return the favor? We have furnished guest suites here at Green TV if you need a mini-vacation free to you. I have decided to go with the still photo postings like cu.naturalhome mag (actually to emulate the site) and now just need to find someone to help me build it. I created my GreenTV.com site from scratch yet this is going to require expertise. If you know (or can find) someone, I will compensate both you and them. Again, my utmost and sincere appreciation.. Lori Lake -- http://www.aliak.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake
cheers Lori :) I took a quick look at the cu.naturalhome mag site and I can't say for certain, but it looks like a joomla site to me (from the look/feel/menus/sections the view html source). I'm not sure of joomla's themes - it could be a modified standard one or they could have made their own new one. the beauty of systems like joomla /drupal et al is that u can build the site yourself. and u can get something up running pretty quickly. basically u install the software, create the database tables using the scripts they give u. u download the scripts then upload to your webserver space. you just need a database eg mysql the login details (your host will give these to you) - most hosting packages include databases or have them available for a fee. then add 'modules' (drupal) / 'addons' (joomla) that give u extra features on the site. I haven't used joomla for a while, so can't remember which modules come as default. but the cu mag site looks like it's got modules such as gallery spotlight (the video on frontpage). many of the other features like comments, bulletin boards, event listings etc may come as default or be addon modules which u can plugin. (which basically means to upload the code files and enable the module/addon in your admin page, then configure it's options if it has any also from your admin page) there's usually a few default 'themes' (drupal) / 'templates' (joomla) which u can try - these change the way the site looks (eg some might be different css themes). u can always customise these make your own to make your site look different to the default joomla sites. (u can write your own modules also customise existing ones if u need something different for your site) the hardest part is usually deciding on which modules to use and how you want the site to be used and look. u might try posting in one of the joomla site forums as that's usually where the people building joomla sites will hang out. there's often calls for help in building sites. if someone else does it for you they may require payment. eg, here's one for non-profit organisations. http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/board,153.0.html there's a few joomla books also (listed on their site) and online documentation etc. as a suggestion, take a look through the Free Addons page ( http://www.joomla.org/content/blogcategory/20/37/) and the Commercial Addons page (http://www.joomla.org/content/blogcategory/22/38/) (both available from the News page via menus/sidebar) and see what sort of features you'd want to add. because the clearer you can be in specifying what u want, the easier it'll be for someone to help u build it. similarly look at the Templates pages for ideas on how the site will look / be arranged. joomla powered sites : examples http://www.joomla.org/content/blogcategory/35/69/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, greentvgirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kath, my head is now spinning which actually is a good thing! Your reply along with others is incredible! People helping people. What a concept! Not joking as there are many small thinkers here on the Chesapeake Bay. With much appreciation, Lori PS: Do you know anyone that could build a site like the one I mentioned at http://cu.naturalhomemagazine.com/ -- http://www.aliak.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake
Kath, you are simply amazing. Is there any way I can compensate you or return the favor? We have furnished guest suites here at Green TV if you need a mini-vacation free to you. I have decided to go with the still photo postings like cu.naturalhome mag (actually to emulate the site) and now just need to find someone to help me build it. I created my GreenTV.com site from scratch yet this is going to require expertise. If you know (or can find) someone, I will compensate both you and them. Again, my utmost and sincere appreciation.. Lori Lake Kath O'Donnell wrote: cheers Lori :) I took a quick look at the cu.naturalhome mag site and I can't say for certain, but it looks like a joomla site to me (from the look/feel/menus/sections the view html source). I'm not sure of joomla's themes - it could be a modified standard one or they could have made their own new one. the beauty of systems like joomla /drupal et al is that u can build the site yourself. and u can get something up running pretty quickly. basically u install the software, create the database tables using the scripts they give u. u download the scripts then upload to your webserver space. you just need a database eg mysql the login details (your host will give these to you) - most hosting packages include databases or have them available for a fee. then add 'modules' (drupal) / 'addons' (joomla) that give u extra features on the site. I haven't used joomla for a while, so can't remember which modules come as default. but the cu mag site looks like it's got modules such as gallery spotlight (the video on frontpage). many of the other features like comments, bulletin boards, event listings etc may come as default or be addon modules which u can plugin. (which basically means to upload the code files and enable the module/addon in your admin page, then configure it's options if it has any also from your admin page) there's usually a few default 'themes' (drupal) / 'templates' (joomla) which u can try - these change the way the site looks (eg some might be different css themes). u can always customise these make your own to make your site look different to the default joomla sites. (u can write your own modules also customise existing ones if u need something different for your site) the hardest part is usually deciding on which modules to use and how you want the site to be used and look. u might try posting in one of the joomla site forums as that's usually where the people building joomla sites will hang out. there's often calls for help in building sites. if someone else does it for you they may require payment. eg, here's one for non-profit organisations. http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/board,153.0.html http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/board,153.0.html there's a few joomla books also (listed on their site) and online documentation etc. as a suggestion, take a look through the Free Addons page ( http://www.joomla.org/content/blogcategory/20/37/ http://www.joomla.org/content/blogcategory/20/37/) and the Commercial Addons page (http://www.joomla.org/content/blogcategory/22/38/ http://www.joomla.org/content/blogcategory/22/38/) (both available from the News page via menus/sidebar) and see what sort of features you'd want to add. because the clearer you can be in specifying what u want, the easier it'll be for someone to help u build it. similarly look at the Templates pages for ideas on how the site will look / be arranged. joomla powered sites : examples http://www.joomla.org/content/blogcategory/35/69/ http://www.joomla.org/content/blogcategory/35/69/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, greentvgirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kath, my head is now spinning which actually is a good thing! Your reply along with others is incredible! People helping people. What a concept! Not joking as there are many small thinkers here on the Chesapeake Bay. With much appreciation, Lori PS: Do you know anyone that could build a site like the one I mentioned at http://cu.naturalhomemagazine.com/ http://cu.naturalhomemagazine.com/ -- http://www.aliak.com http://www.aliak.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake
Greetings. Here are some purely personal thoughts about green video and the internet, which may or may not be of any use, dont let me put you off a worthy mission... There are quite a number of dedicated people now making green-related video shows for the web. They are often totally independent on their own sites, or they are either loosley or strongly affiliated with one of the new breed of video hosting sites or would-be new media networks. I havent seen so much of the mass user-generated you-tube like sites focussed on green stuff, although its quite possile that some exist and Ive missed them. Certainly there are some social networking sites that are dedicated to all things green and sustainable, and they are perhaps more likely to get a critical mass of users to make the thing work, if many of those users contribute stuff other than video. For whilst there is no doubt that there has been an explosion in the number of people posting videos on the web in the last few years, its still something that can be offputting for a lot of people, for many reasons, so it can be harder to get the quantity of user-umbitted content that you might initially think possible when planning a site like the one you'd like to do. A lot may depend on how broad a site you are aiming for. There will probably be no end of green sites in the future, as these issues are only going to get more pressing as time goes on, so it could be an idea to specialise somewhat. eg if green buildings are your main field, maybe focus on that. If you are more into the pragmatic business side of sustainability than the radical campaign side of things, it may be wise to make the site stay roughly within the same boundaries. 'build it and they will come' does not always apply on the net, so it could be worth takings things a lot further with all the people you already know,w ho have told you they want a place to post video, photos etc. Need to see what they've actually got, and whether they are likely to be repeat contributors or more likely one-offs. For example I am passionate about green stuff, and specifically saving energy, but for various reasons Ive only managed to make a few videos that were not professional enough for my own tastes, and I literally ran out of things I was able to show-and-tell quite quickly. I just wouldnt want you to find yourself stuck in a vacuum, with there not being enough 'average user' material submitted, and everyone who has more skill, time etc to put into video, already doing their own shows. But like I said, dont let me put you off, its just a case of finding the right formula, and net video in 2007 is a funny thing because sometimes it feels like there are more video hosting sites than there are people making their own videos. There is a real interest in green stuff that will only grow with time, and I certainly want to see stories from everyone who has been able to put a little green into their life, however theyve done it. Its just Im not sure how many of those people are also ready to make the videos themselves, whether the lack of an appropriate site is whats holding them back, whether there will always be a need for people doing shows to turn up and document the story for others, just like a TV show might, how much this stuff wil be saturated by TV programs doing this sort of thing in the future, stuff like that. And then there is the issues of how all the different, independent people making green shows, could be connected in some way, what benefits it would have, how strong the connection could be, whether anybody actually wants that, whether there will be more networks or other groups trying to do this than there are people making vids. Oh Im sounding too negative again, sorry. I want this stuff to explode and the more sites the better, I just not sure how best to do it. Cheers Steve Elbows My largely inactive except for one week, rather rushed and amateurish green related blog: carbondown.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, greentvgirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My name is Lori Lake, I am the creator of Green TV and request the help of this very creative group of minds. I am debt-free and located on a small waterfront estate at the head of the Chesapeake Bay. I created Green TV over years ago because people around me kept getting sick and dying from pollution. I am not an activist or extremist, I am a business woman and considered a green expert by many because I (with my own hands and mind) designed, built and personally financed my own green facility on a killer waterfront that includes two furnished guest suites. I write to find how Green TV could make a great interactive site and the reason is not my existing Green TV web site or content. Since going live on the internet less than 1-year ago, I have had people from all over the globe asking how they could contribute their green photos and/or videos (ranging from amateurs to architects, local politicians to
[videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake
Kath, my head is now spinning which actually is a good thing! Your reply along with others is incredible! People helping people. What a concept! Not joking as there are many small thinkers here on the Chesapeake Bay. With much appreciation, Lori PS: Do you know anyone that could build a site like the one I mentioned at http://cu.naturalhomemagazine.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lori, it might be worth using a Content Management System (CMS) for your site so it's easy to update and for people to post articles/media/comments. from the layout / sections on your current site, I think a CMS would be the way to go. I use one called drupal (http://www.drupal.org) which is great for community sites and it's free to use (as in cost). there's a sister project called CivicSpace also, which is based on drupal but some people find it easier to setup (~ more of an out-of-the-box solution). (http://civicspacelabs.org) there are many others available also. eg joomla (http://www.joomla.org/), plone (http://plone.org/). a CMS comparison site which may be handy for you if you want to see/compare the features is at CMS Matrix (http://www.cmsmatrix.org/). I guess you'd need to make a list of what features you want/need first/as u go. and think about things such as where you want the media contributions hosted - on your site or remotely link them in / bandwidth / traffic considerations. some community sites use wordpress / blogging systems also and these can also be effective. the freevlog.org site has details tutorials on how to setup a videoblog site so that may be useful for you too. if you just want to link to youtube/blip.tv videos then you could just add the code directly to your site, though it's not really interactive so probably not what you're after. ( I notice you already have this in the howto video sections) cheers Kath I write to find how Green TV could make a great interactive site and the reason is not my existing Green TV web site or content. Since going live on the internet less than 1-year ago, I have had people from all over the globe asking how they could contribute their green photos and/or videos (ranging from amateurs to architects, local politicians to government leaders, educators to media) -- http://www.aliak.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake
There are a couple of things I was musing over as I read your post and the others. I think that first you have to have content no matter if the others contribute or not. I don't think you have to abandon your original ideas because I think that there are a lot of people jumping in on the green bandwagon as in carpetbaggers selling the buzz of the week. I think a lot of good can come from continuing to show your actual expertise in real people making health environmental changes. I think it can be profitable if folks know about your skills and knowledge. Second, I think you have to find out where the green folks, sustainability people and the environmentally conscious hang their shingle. They might not want to produce regularly but they may have a video or two that they want to share or contribute to GreenTV. If you make it known to them that this is an option you could be swimming in content. From BlogHer there are writers who are connected to the green side of blogging. Stroll through and see who you can hook up with. http://blogher.org/blogher-topics/green-eco-conscious So yeah, for me it is defining the content, finding the folks and then building the network one person/video at a time. I do agree that a management system has to be in place otherwise you'd never be able to leave the house. You don't want it totally automatic because there will be video trolls and spammers that will need to be stopped at the gate. Oh an that not an activist statement. Yes, you are. Per Webster's A doctrine or practice that emphasizes direct vigorous action especially in support of or opposition to one side of a controversial issue. If you didn't believe this you couldn't take this next big step. You might not be like other activists but that is ok. There is enough work to go around. Keep the faith, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, greentvgirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My name is Lori Lake, I am the creator of Green TV and request the help of this very creative group of minds. I am debt-free and located on a small waterfront estate at the head of the Chesapeake Bay. I created Green TV over years ago because people around me kept getting sick and dying from pollution. I am not an activist or extremist, I am a business woman and considered a green expert by many because I (with my own hands and mind) designed, built and personally financed my own green facility on a killer waterfront that includes two furnished guest suites. I write to find how Green TV could make a great interactive site and the reason is not my existing Green TV web site or content. Since going live on the internet less than 1-year ago, I have had people from all over the globe asking how they could contribute their green photos and/or videos (ranging from amateurs to architects, local politicians to government leaders, educators to media) After much thought, I decided to forgo my original Green TV platform and move towards allowing others to create their own Green TV stations like GreenTV.com/India, GreenTV.com NewYork and so on. The site I like for my Green TV stations to be modeled after is http://cu.naturalhomemagazine.com/ yet it does not accept videos yet, however, it would provide a basic idea of what people coming to Green TV want to report on; Green building projects, green people in their community, green business/government/educator leaders again, all on a local to them basis. Imagine thousands worldwide contributing to a better planet while riding on the coat tails of Al Gore's 5-year green campaign! Thank you and I look forward to a mutual beneficial business relationship with one or members of the incredibly helpful videoblogging. Lori Lake Direct contact: Lori Lake http://www.greentv.com/contact.htm Web site: Green TV.com
[videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake
Hi Lori, it might be worth using a Content Management System (CMS) for your site so it's easy to update and for people to post articles/media/comments. Gena is right on as always. Joomla was the only one I messed with and knew where to get more freelance help. if you just want to link to youtube/blip.tv videos then you could just add the code directly to your site, though it's not really interactive so I just thought of two other video channel options. http://operator11.com/ and ... Somewhere in this list's messeges (I think) is the name of another company (for the life of me I cannot remember the name of this start up). They are have a video player that allows people to add comments and links to a timeline bar at the bottom third of the video player frame. What is the name of that start up gang? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, greentvgirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kath, my head is now spinning which actually is a good thing! Your reply along with others is incredible! People helping people. What a concept! Not joking as there are many small thinkers here on the Chesapeake Bay. With much appreciation, Lori PS: Do you know anyone that could build a site like the one I mentioned at http://cu.naturalhomemagazine.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell aliak77@ wrote: Hi Lori, it might be worth using a Content Management System (CMS) for your site so it's easy to update and for people to post articles/media/comments. from the layout / sections on your current site, I think a CMS would be the way to go. I use one called drupal (http://www.drupal.org) which is great for community sites and it's free to use (as in cost). there's a sister project called CivicSpace also, which is based on drupal but some people find it easier to setup (~ more of an out-of-the-box solution). (http://civicspacelabs.org) there are many others available also. eg joomla (http://www.joomla.org/), plone (http://plone.org/). a CMS comparison site which may be handy for you if you want to see/compare the features is at CMS Matrix (http://www.cmsmatrix.org/). I guess you'd need to make a list of what features you want/need first/as u go. and think about things such as where you want the media contributions hosted - on your site or remotely link them in / bandwidth / traffic considerations. some community sites use wordpress / blogging systems also and these can also be effective. the freevlog.org site has details tutorials on how to setup a videoblog site so that may be useful for you too. if you just want to link to youtube/blip.tv videos then you could just add the code directly to your site, though it's not really interactive so probably not what you're after. ( I notice you already have this in the howto video sections) cheers Kath I write to find how Green TV could make a great interactive site and the reason is not my existing Green TV web site or content. Since going live on the internet less than 1-year ago, I have had people from all over the globe asking how they could contribute their green photos and/or videos (ranging from amateurs to architects, local politicians to government leaders, educators to media) -- http://www.aliak.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
