[videoblogging] Re: ny times article on vlogging

2005-07-25 Thread Chuck Olsen





I railed against (almost) everything I think is wrong with
the NY Times article here:

http://tinyurl.com/brpef

That said, congrats to everyone, especially Ian, who deserves
all the kudos we can shower upon him! I was also so happy
to see the words Reality Sandwich.

Too bad you won't see much of a traffic spike without links.
Apparently Neopets.com will, though... I'm going to email
Sarah Boxer about the links. We need to keep on journalists
about this, sadly.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/25/arts/25vlog.html?
 
  kudos to everyone who got a mention!
 
 In traditional old press fashion, there are of course no links to any of 
 the people mentioned.
 
 Clint








  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ny times article on vlogging

2005-07-25 Thread Tim D




Thanks Chuck! This was the first time I have EVER been mentioned in
any newpaper (unless you count the times I made honor roll in high
school...big press item). Now the NYT!? Damn. Not that I am looking
a gift horse in the mouth, but I too was concerned about the fact that
there was no link in the actual article. I consider three or four new
people commenting on my site a spike, but I feel that it is important
to at least say Hey...this is where I got my info.

Tim
realitysandwich.typepad.com

On 7/25/05, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I railed against (almost) everything I think is wrong with
 the NY Times article here:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/brpef
 
 That said, congrats to everyone, especially Ian, who deserves
 all the kudos we can shower upon him! I was also so happy
 to see the words Reality Sandwich.
 
 Too bad you won't see much of a traffic spike without links.
 Apparently Neopets.com will, though... I'm going to email
 Sarah Boxer about the links. We need to keep on journalists
 about this, sadly.



  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ny times article on vlogging

2005-07-25 Thread Chris Daniel




Congrats to the one's who were mentioned in the article! I see the
links as well.

-Chris
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On 7/25/05, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd love to agree with you, because I'm feeling grumpy this morning - but there are links in a
 separate bar to the left. Still, maybe I can moan about how the text itself wasn't linked. Yes.
 Bastards.
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  In traditional old press fashion, there are of course no links to any of
  the people mentioned.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ny times article on vlogging

2005-07-25 Thread Joshua Kinberg




links are in the sidebar folks.

-josh

On 7/25/05, Chris Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Congrats to the one's who were mentioned in the article! I see the
 links as well.
 
 -Chris
 --
 http://chrisdaniel.blogspot.com
 
 
 On 7/25/05, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'd love to agree with you, because I'm feeling grumpy this morning - but there are links in a
  separate bar to the left. Still, maybe I can moan about how the text itself wasn't linked. Yes.
  Bastards.
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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   the people mentioned.
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ny times article on vlogging

2005-07-25 Thread Josh Leo



I am very happy that video blogging is getting more press, for the
shear fact that it may bring more people to start video blogging
themselves. I totally agree with Chuck and his commentary on the
article. 

I also recognize how this is a perfect example of themed content and
how it makes things more palatable to outsiders. Now I am probably
never going to turn my blog into a theme outside of this is me, Josh
Leo But the emphasis that Ian got in this article (5 paragraphs and 2
pictures compared to everyone else with 1 sentence and no pictures) is
a clear example that the average everyday person will understand
something easier if it has a gimmick or theme. 

I am not saying that Ian's project is a gimmick in the negative sense
of the word, it just makes it easier to understand. normal person
understands a personal challenge of trying to do something difficult
every day (such as creating a video) better than they would someone
posting video randomly just because they enjoy it. The emphasis on the
three episodes of Challenge Ian overshadowed the whole project (7
months of videos) because it was even more of a gimmick. After
talking with Ian this morning, he thinks he is going to set challenge
Ian on the backburner because of the attention it is getting.

The other draw of Ian's project, and Rocketboom is it's habitual
viewership. people go back every day because it becomes part of their
routine. having that habitual audience is great way to maintain
viewers. Both Ian and Rocketboom have had their fair share of really
awesome videos, and that is another reason that they are getting the
attention that they deserve. 

I just find it interesting to try to understand how the press picks
video blogs to cover. They don't cover all the most popular ones
(though Rocketboom and Steve Garfield have been mentioned in nearly
every article so far.) and sometimes they pick out random people who
have just started and launch them into the public eye. I guess, as this
most recent article presents, America is used to TV so showing them
video blogs that fit into the idea's of tv makes the topic easier to
digest.


ok so I know some stuff i have just
typed may piss some people off, I am not always the most effective in
text so here are my disclaimers:
I love the 05 project
Ian is an awesome video blogger
Themed content is not a bad thing
Habitual viewership is not a bad thing
shows are not a bad thing
I am obviously wrting out of the emotion of I wish they would have covered me more throroughly
Don't hate me!
-- Josh Leowww.joshleo.comwww.stonefarm.blogspot.comwww.joshspicks.blogspot.com
www.wearethemedia.com


  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: ny times article on vlogging

2005-07-25 Thread Chuck Olsen




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 links are in the sidebar folks.
 
 -josh

I can't prove it in a court of law, but I'm *pretty* sure those links were
added after the article went live. glad to see them, in any case.








  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ny times article on vlogging

2005-07-25 Thread Richard




wow, they mentioned my name! I can quit my job and buy a new fancy
house ... easy street!

wait, they didn't put my url with the links on the side ... doh! ... I
better call the dean back and tell him I didn't mean those things I
said when I quit, and I want my job back, and I better cancel the down
payment on the mansion ...

... Richard, on an emotional roller coaster in Rolla 

On 7/25/05, t.whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 related, there is also an article about current.tv in todays NYTimes:
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/25/business/media/25gore.html
 
 I'm curious to check it out. Luckily it's playing in my area, doesn't seem to be very
 widespread thus far.
 
 Has anyone submitted content?
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   links are in the sidebar folks.
  
   -josh
 
  I can't prove it in a court of law, but I'm *pretty* sure those links were
  added after the article went live. glad to see them, in any case.
 
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: ny times article on vlogging

2005-07-25 Thread johngaltsjournal




See, that's the weirdest part about the article for me: they mention so many people but 
only link to a few on the sidebar-- I mean, it's the NYT!!!, they know how to hyperlink (to 
Neopets?!?!)

Great article-- even though they didn't seem to talk to anybody. Which is also weird. But, 
then again, if they are treating it like a tv review they did it right.
schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 wow, they mentioned my name! I can quit my job and buy a new fancy
 house ... easy street!
 
 wait, they didn't put my url with the links on the side ... doh! ... I
 better call the dean back and tell him I didn't mean those things I
 said when I quit, and I want my job back, and I better cancel the down
 payment on the mansion ...
 
 ... Richard, on an emotional roller coaster in Rolla 
 
 On 7/25/05, t.whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  related, there is also an article about current.tv in todays NYTimes:
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/25/business/media/25gore.html
  
  I'm curious to check it out. Luckily it's playing in my area, doesn't seem to be very
  widespread thus far.
  
  Has anyone submitted content?
  






  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ny times article on vlogging

2005-07-25 Thread Josh Leo



I posted some links on the post about the article on Wearethemedia.com

http://wearethemedia.com/?p=91-- Josh Leowww.joshleo.comwww.stonefarm.blogspot.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ny times article on vlogging

2005-07-25 Thread Josh Leo



sorrylinks to scans of the paper version of the article
On 7/25/05, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I posted some links on the post about the article on Wearethemedia.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: ny times article on vlogging

2005-07-25 Thread R. Kristiansen




I am out of the loop in terms of watching videos, being on the road as
I am, but could someone please Vlog the newspaper from today? that is,
just take some video of the newspaper, go to the section with the vlog
story, then do a review of the article, or something. if it's already
done, please excuse me :) if not, I think that would be cool!

Thanks for the scans, Josh!

Best, 
Raymond M. Kristiansen
- looking forward to getting to his own bed in just Three nights now

On 7/25/05, ryanne hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i was in a cafe this morning
 and i happened upon the article in the paper
 3 huge pictures of IAN on the front page of the NYT with the quote
 mundane is the new punk
 wild.
 what was with the last sentence?
 it's television!
 huh?
 
 -ryanne






  
  
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