Re: [videoblogging] 7D workflow for PC
Further to my post yesterday, I just saw this. Steve Jobs replied to an email from someone asking about the future of final cut. http://macsoda.com/2010/04/13/steve-jobs-next-final-cut-studio-will-be-awesome/ He said: Next release will be awesome. Um. That's it. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:59, Rupert Howe wrote: I found myself tempted back to PC for the first time yesterday. Realised how often Apple decisions that affect video (in their apps, browsers, phones, Quicktime) have pissed me off and how little I trust them to keep doing the right thing. And then saw this - the Adobe/Nvidia Mercury Playback engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xso6CGdsl2cfeature=player_embedded And thought about the possibility of switching back to Adobe CS5 video apps on PC You obviously like Premiere? I haven't used it properly since the nineties, I don't think. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:45, Adam Quirk wrote: I think I downloaded that and forgot to install it. Trying it now, thanks. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Sorry - pasted wrong link: http://www.cineform.com/neoscene/ On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:35, Rupert Howe wrote: Have you tried using Cineform Neoscene AVIs? http://www.videoguys.com/Item/CineForm+Neo+Scene+PC/54E4543435F454E4.aspx Comes highly recommended for easy cutting of 5D Mk2 clips in full HD with Premiere. Costs $99, but they have a trial. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:11, Adam Quirk wrote: I got a 7D at the beginning of the year and I'm still not comfortable with my workflow. Hoping someone here has some experience with it. 1. Pull clips into my raw video folder using the EOS Utility that comes with the camera. This works well. 2. Convert the 1080p h.264 clips to raw uncompressed AVIs with converter software (I use AVS). This is mainly because Premiere won't import them as is. Was hoping to find a preset online to download, but haven't seen one yet. 3. Pull them down into the timeline and render the whole thing. If you don't do this, it's pretty much unusably jerky. Even after this, it's not always smooth. I have a powerful machine too. I find that if I disable the audio, I can scrub the footage pretty smoothly, but that just means I have to disable the video track when I want to cut to the audio. FML. 4. Cut, render, compress. So this is a bitch and a half, and I have been reading up on other people's 7D workflows around the web, but 90% of them are on Macs. Has anyone here been working with 7D footage on a PC? Thanks, Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] 7D workflow for PC
Have you tried using Cineform Neoscene AVIs? http://www.videoguys.com/Item/CineForm+Neo+Scene+PC/54E4543435F454E4.aspx Comes highly recommended for easy cutting of 5D Mk2 clips in full HD with Premiere. Costs $99, but they have a trial. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:11, Adam Quirk wrote: I got a 7D at the beginning of the year and I'm still not comfortable with my workflow. Hoping someone here has some experience with it. 1. Pull clips into my raw video folder using the EOS Utility that comes with the camera. This works well. 2. Convert the 1080p h.264 clips to raw uncompressed AVIs with converter software (I use AVS). This is mainly because Premiere won't import them as is. Was hoping to find a preset online to download, but haven't seen one yet. 3. Pull them down into the timeline and render the whole thing. If you don't do this, it's pretty much unusably jerky. Even after this, it's not always smooth. I have a powerful machine too. I find that if I disable the audio, I can scrub the footage pretty smoothly, but that just means I have to disable the video track when I want to cut to the audio. FML. 4. Cut, render, compress. So this is a bitch and a half, and I have been reading up on other people's 7D workflows around the web, but 90% of them are on Macs. Has anyone here been working with 7D footage on a PC? Thanks, Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] 7D workflow for PC
Sorry - pasted wrong link: http://www.cineform.com/neoscene/ On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:35, Rupert Howe wrote: Have you tried using Cineform Neoscene AVIs? http://www.videoguys.com/Item/CineForm+Neo+Scene+PC/54E4543435F454E4.aspx Comes highly recommended for easy cutting of 5D Mk2 clips in full HD with Premiere. Costs $99, but they have a trial. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:11, Adam Quirk wrote: I got a 7D at the beginning of the year and I'm still not comfortable with my workflow. Hoping someone here has some experience with it. 1. Pull clips into my raw video folder using the EOS Utility that comes with the camera. This works well. 2. Convert the 1080p h.264 clips to raw uncompressed AVIs with converter software (I use AVS). This is mainly because Premiere won't import them as is. Was hoping to find a preset online to download, but haven't seen one yet. 3. Pull them down into the timeline and render the whole thing. If you don't do this, it's pretty much unusably jerky. Even after this, it's not always smooth. I have a powerful machine too. I find that if I disable the audio, I can scrub the footage pretty smoothly, but that just means I have to disable the video track when I want to cut to the audio. FML. 4. Cut, render, compress. So this is a bitch and a half, and I have been reading up on other people's 7D workflows around the web, but 90% of them are on Macs. Has anyone here been working with 7D footage on a PC? Thanks, Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] 7D workflow for PC
I think I downloaded that and forgot to install it. Trying it now, thanks. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Sorry - pasted wrong link: http://www.cineform.com/neoscene/ On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:35, Rupert Howe wrote: Have you tried using Cineform Neoscene AVIs? http://www.videoguys.com/Item/CineForm+Neo+Scene+PC/54E4543435F454E4.aspx Comes highly recommended for easy cutting of 5D Mk2 clips in full HD with Premiere. Costs $99, but they have a trial. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:11, Adam Quirk wrote: I got a 7D at the beginning of the year and I'm still not comfortable with my workflow. Hoping someone here has some experience with it. 1. Pull clips into my raw video folder using the EOS Utility that comes with the camera. This works well. 2. Convert the 1080p h.264 clips to raw uncompressed AVIs with converter software (I use AVS). This is mainly because Premiere won't import them as is. Was hoping to find a preset online to download, but haven't seen one yet. 3. Pull them down into the timeline and render the whole thing. If you don't do this, it's pretty much unusably jerky. Even after this, it's not always smooth. I have a powerful machine too. I find that if I disable the audio, I can scrub the footage pretty smoothly, but that just means I have to disable the video track when I want to cut to the audio. FML. 4. Cut, render, compress. So this is a bitch and a half, and I have been reading up on other people's 7D workflows around the web, but 90% of them are on Macs. Has anyone here been working with 7D footage on a PC? Thanks, Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] 7D workflow for PC
I found myself tempted back to PC for the first time yesterday. Realised how often Apple decisions that affect video (in their apps, browsers, phones, Quicktime) have pissed me off and how little I trust them to keep doing the right thing. And then saw this - the Adobe/Nvidia Mercury Playback engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xso6CGdsl2cfeature=player_embedded And thought about the possibility of switching back to Adobe CS5 video apps on PC You obviously like Premiere? I haven't used it properly since the nineties, I don't think. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:45, Adam Quirk wrote: I think I downloaded that and forgot to install it. Trying it now, thanks. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Sorry - pasted wrong link: http://www.cineform.com/neoscene/ On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:35, Rupert Howe wrote: Have you tried using Cineform Neoscene AVIs? http://www.videoguys.com/Item/CineForm+Neo+Scene+PC/54E4543435F454E4.aspx Comes highly recommended for easy cutting of 5D Mk2 clips in full HD with Premiere. Costs $99, but they have a trial. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:11, Adam Quirk wrote: I got a 7D at the beginning of the year and I'm still not comfortable with my workflow. Hoping someone here has some experience with it. 1. Pull clips into my raw video folder using the EOS Utility that comes with the camera. This works well. 2. Convert the 1080p h.264 clips to raw uncompressed AVIs with converter software (I use AVS). This is mainly because Premiere won't import them as is. Was hoping to find a preset online to download, but haven't seen one yet. 3. Pull them down into the timeline and render the whole thing. If you don't do this, it's pretty much unusably jerky. Even after this, it's not always smooth. I have a powerful machine too. I find that if I disable the audio, I can scrub the footage pretty smoothly, but that just means I have to disable the video track when I want to cut to the audio. FML. 4. Cut, render, compress. So this is a bitch and a half, and I have been reading up on other people's 7D workflows around the web, but 90% of them are on Macs. Has anyone here been working with 7D footage on a PC? Thanks, Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] 7D workflow for PC
I just said thanks Rupert out loud. Neoscene just made my life much easier. I'm kicking myself for sitting on it this whole time. Yeah I like Premiere, but it's a fickle mistress. It crashes every once in a while, as do all computer programs I suppose. I think it's about the same as Final Cut, but I've only used FCP a couple times. I really like the keyframe animation options built into Premiere, and it's pretty easy to switch back and forth between After Effects and Premiere on the same project. In my dreams, AE has audio editing and can import any codec. AQ On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: I found myself tempted back to PC for the first time yesterday. Realised how often Apple decisions that affect video (in their apps, browsers, phones, Quicktime) have pissed me off and how little I trust them to keep doing the right thing. And then saw this - the Adobe/Nvidia Mercury Playback engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xso6CGdsl2cfeature=player_embedded And thought about the possibility of switching back to Adobe CS5 video apps on PC You obviously like Premiere? I haven't used it properly since the nineties, I don't think. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:45, Adam Quirk wrote: I think I downloaded that and forgot to install it. Trying it now, thanks. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Sorry - pasted wrong link: http://www.cineform.com/neoscene/ On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:35, Rupert Howe wrote: Have you tried using Cineform Neoscene AVIs? http://www.videoguys.com/Item/CineForm+Neo+Scene+PC/54E4543435F454E4.aspx Comes highly recommended for easy cutting of 5D Mk2 clips in full HD with Premiere. Costs $99, but they have a trial. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv On 15 Apr 2010, at 16:11, Adam Quirk wrote: I got a 7D at the beginning of the year and I'm still not comfortable with my workflow. Hoping someone here has some experience with it. 1. Pull clips into my raw video folder using the EOS Utility that comes with the camera. This works well. 2. Convert the 1080p h.264 clips to raw uncompressed AVIs with converter software (I use AVS). This is mainly because Premiere won't import them as is. Was hoping to find a preset online to download, but haven't seen one yet. 3. Pull them down into the timeline and render the whole thing. If you don't do this, it's pretty much unusably jerky. Even after this, it's not always smooth. I have a powerful machine too. I find that if I disable the audio, I can scrub the footage pretty smoothly, but that just means I have to disable the video track when I want to cut to the audio. FML. 4. Cut, render, compress. So this is a bitch and a half, and I have been reading up on other people's 7D workflows around the web, but 90% of them are on Macs. Has anyone here been working with 7D footage on a PC? Thanks, Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] 7D workflow for PC
As I've mentioned in another post, I'm trialing Pinnacle Studio HD 14 and it works pretty well with my 1280x720 HD H.264 clips direct from my Sanyo Xacti, I don't convert first. No idea about the 7D, but it might be worth a trial. Dave. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.com wrote: I got a 7D at the beginning of the year and I'm still not comfortable with my workflow. Hoping someone here has some experience with it. 1. Pull clips into my raw video folder using the EOS Utility that comes with the camera. This works well. 2. Convert the 1080p h.264 clips to raw uncompressed AVIs with converter software (I use AVS). This is mainly because Premiere won't import them as is. Was hoping to find a preset online to download, but haven't seen one yet. 3. Pull them down into the timeline and render the whole thing. If you don't do this, it's pretty much unusably jerky. Even after this, it's not always smooth. I have a powerful machine too. I find that if I disable the audio, I can scrub the footage pretty smoothly, but that just means I have to disable the video track when I want to cut to the audio. FML. 4. Cut, render, compress. So this is a bitch and a half, and I have been reading up on other people's 7D workflows around the web, but 90% of them are on Macs. Has anyone here been working with 7D footage on a PC? Thanks, Adam
RE: [videoblogging] 7D workflow for PC
Adam, its Roger. I use a 7D and usually copy the EOS files to whatever machine I am using. I am able to import them into Final Cut Pro and Premiere on the Mac and Edius (Grass Valley) on the PC . I import them no problem, but have to render them one way or another to play back realtime smooth. That just seems to be a fact of life with most any of the HD files I use. ( ACHD as well.) On FCP, I work in a PRORES codec-- mixing various formats in there. The ultimate video quality is great. BYW though, the files import and render very nicely in IMovie. Once they are in, they have played fine and no other rendering is needed.I wind up using I movie alot . The 7D a great camera.( I would look into the Rebel T2i now.) It takes getting used to, but I love it. Check out the video P.F. Bentley posted on Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/9050517 Roger. To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com From: david.jo...@altium.com Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:07:02 +1000 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] 7D workflow for PC As I've mentioned in another post, I'm trialing Pinnacle Studio HD 14 and it works pretty well with my 1280x720 HD H.264 clips direct from my Sanyo Xacti, I don't convert first. No idea about the 7D, but it might be worth a trial. Dave. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Adam Quirk qu...@wreckandsalvage.com wrote: I got a 7D at the beginning of the year and I'm still not comfortable with my workflow. Hoping someone here has some experience with it. 1. Pull clips into my raw video folder using the EOS Utility that comes with the camera. This works well. 2. Convert the 1080p h.264 clips to raw uncompressed AVIs with converter software (I use AVS). This is mainly because Premiere won't import them as is. Was hoping to find a preset online to download, but haven't seen one yet. 3. Pull them down into the timeline and render the whole thing. If you don't do this, it's pretty much unusably jerky. Even after this, it's not always smooth. I have a powerful machine too. I find that if I disable the audio, I can scrub the footage pretty smoothly, but that just means I have to disable the video track when I want to cut to the audio. FML. 4. Cut, render, compress. So this is a bitch and a half, and I have been reading up on other people's 7D workflows around the web, but 90% of them are on Macs. Has anyone here been working with 7D footage on a PC? Thanks, Adam _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
