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Holy smoke. That was a great breakdown of your time. But what it made me realise was how little I consume of ANYTHING now. No telly, and I never go to the movies. And I realised that not only is our only TV a 14 inch Sony from the mid 90s (great picture quality though), but our DVD and VCR have both been broken since Christmas. So currently, using your list, my time looks like this: TV 0% Movies 0% games 0% virtual worlds 0% web reading 50% videoblogs 50% books 0% I used to watch at least 2 hours of TV a night, and one or two movies a week. Plus I used to read a book a week (I've read 3 books all year, i think - two of those on the plane to and from Pixelodeon!) I mean... I don't really know what I *do* with myself. Apart from Twitter and watch videoblogs. Do you think I am being abducted by aliens for four or five hours every day? Rupert On 4 Aug 2007, at 05:02, Michael Verdi wrote: We have 3 TV's in our house, cable subscription and 1 DVR. I watch only about 2 - 3 hours of TV a week depending on what shows are running - most of them are things on HBO. I have a Netflix subscription and probably watch 1 - 2 movies a week. Since I got a Wii for my birthday I've probably added about 3 hours a week of games. Speaking of games, I'm probably in Second Life about 2 hours a week. I probably spend about 10 hours a week reading things on the web and about 2 hours watching videoblogs. And you can also add about 6 hours of reading books. So kind of interesting - when you add it up it looks like I spend up to 30 hours a week consuming media with only really a small percentage (7%) being videoblogs. TV 10% Movies 13% games 10% virtual worlds 7% web reading 33% videoblogs 7% books 20% 4 years ago it probably would have looked like this: TV 30% Movies 40% Web 10% Books 20% The really big difference is that I spend at least this much time actively producing media (video, websites, blogs, machinima, etc) each week where 4 years ago it was probably only 8 - 10hrs a week. So I'd have to say that since videoblogging my media consumption has diversified and more importantly (I think) my media production has gone way up. - Verdi [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi all, So currently, using your list, my time looks like this: TV 3% Movies 0% games 0% virtual worlds 2% web reading 55%(Facebook 5% RSS feeds 35% twitter 10% other 5%) videoblogs 40%( editing 20% learning (new softs) 20%) books 0% 3TV here, one home cinema, one account sattelite programs (300 TV channels) All the time spend on internet is not taken on tv time or cultural activities but also on garden works, walking the dog, cooking ...and that could be a problem Peace Loiez
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I watch TV. I go to the movies. I watch video online. I watch video art in galleries. I only like a small percentage of the actual work that ends up on each, but what's that law again that says only a tiny percentage of anything will be worthwhile? But the formats and venues... great. More more more please. I wish they were all, online video included, WAY less driven by profit or the hope for profit (though I also wish everyone who wants to could make a living working in them), but I don't see them as being in competition. I also try to experience things in the format for which they were intended as much as possible. Since mass media and media culture are subjects of some of my work and some of the classes I teach, I try not to cut myself off, but I also try to avoid passive TV viewing. That also means I watch a lot of things I really really really don't like, online and offline. But at a basic level I just love the whole phenomenom of images that move and things making noises, regardless of where they come from. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I still enjoy free HD over the air, but I don't pay for satelite or cable. --- beth_tilston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to conduct a quick straw poll to see how many people here don't own a/don't watch 'normal' tv. I was just reading a message from MissB where she comments on the fact that she doesn't have a tv. I know Tanja from Freshtopia doesn't, I don't either. It would be interesting to find out whether this is true of lots of people here, or just a few. Is there any correlation between turning off your television and making the content yourself? Just thought I would throw that question to the group. Beth Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing, Travel, Craic and Cocktails www.jchtv.com Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
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I have three televisions, one of which is HD. I sometimes (very rarely) use the HDTV as a monitor for my laptop, but that's a minimal use case. I watch TV a pretty fair amount and own a TiVO. In fact, it was via my TiVO that I found Rocketboom and got inspired to videoblog. I have also converted one of our older videoblog entries to a DVD format to submit to more traditional film and video festivals. Additionally, it's pretty common for me to watch YouTube or flash videos on my TV using my Nintendo Wii. It's the easiest way to see them on a large screen without having to fiddle with cables. TV is one screen of many, and it's not to be ignored, in my estimation. It's so iconic of the bad old days that, when people speak of media convergence or new media, they throw out the TV, but I think there's an unexplored country in ways to bring new media and better options for media convergence to the TV. Given how many households will continue to use it as their first screen, it's still an essential part of the mix. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime I wanted to conduct a quick straw poll to see how many people here don't own a/don't watch 'normal' tv. I was just reading a message from MissB where she comments on the fact that she doesn't have a tv. I know Tanja from Freshtopia doesn't, I don't either. It would be interesting to find out whether this is true of lots of people here, or just a few. Is there any correlation between turning off your television and making the content yourself? Just thought I would throw that question to the group.
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No more TV for me. Ron Watson On the Web: http://pawsitivevybe.com http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv On Aug 3, 2007, at 5:33 PM, beth_tilston wrote: I wanted to conduct a quick straw poll to see how many people here don't own a/don't watch 'normal' tv. I was just reading a message from MissB where she comments on the fact that she doesn't have a tv. I know Tanja from Freshtopia doesn't, I don't either. It would be interesting to find out whether this is true of lots of people here, or just a few. Is there any correlation between turning off your television and making the content yourself? Just thought I would throw that question to the group. Beth [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Very interested in how the Wii accesses online video. Any links to info on that? My wife just bought one and I'd like to start viewing my personal Mefeedia channel on it, which gives me one consolidated feed to the 67 videoblogs that I am watching. Devices such as the Wii are exactly why a personal channel works. I can manage all of my subscriptions on the Web and maybe even enjoy a few videos on my computer - but when I am ready to really relax, lay back with a beer, and sit in front of the TV, I want to just watch this personal channel of everything that is new from the 67 videoblogs that I like. I am infinitely excited to start using this. The path to the TV is becoming much clearer. Regards, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mefeedia.com/user/franks/ http://mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Share video blogs _ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Rhett Aultman Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:49 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Owning a television... I have three televisions, one of which is HD. I sometimes (very rarely) use the HDTV as a monitor for my laptop, but that's a minimal use case. I watch TV a pretty fair amount and own a TiVO. In fact, it was via my TiVO that I found Rocketboom and got inspired to videoblog. I have also converted one of our older videoblog entries to a DVD format to submit to more traditional film and video festivals. Additionally, it's pretty common for me to watch YouTube or flash videos on my TV using my Nintendo Wii. It's the easiest way to see them on a large screen without having to fiddle with cables. TV is one screen of many, and it's not to be ignored, in my estimation. It's so iconic of the bad old days that, when people speak of media convergence or new media, they throw out the TV, but I think there's an unexplored country in ways to bring new media and better options for media convergence to the TV. Given how many households will continue to use it as their first screen, it's still an essential part of the mix. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherl http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime ight.com/freetime http://www.weatherl http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime ight.com/greentime I wanted to conduct a quick straw poll to see how many people here don't own a/don't watch 'normal' tv. I was just reading a message from MissB where she comments on the fact that she doesn't have a tv. I know Tanja from Freshtopia doesn't, I don't either. It would be interesting to find out whether this is true of lots of people here, or just a few. Is there any correlation between turning off your television and making the content yourself? Just thought I would throw that question to the group. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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On Aug 3, 2007, at 2:33 PM, beth_tilston wrote: I wanted to conduct a quick straw poll to see how many people here don't own a/don't watch 'normal' tv. I was just reading a message from MissB where she comments on the fact that she doesn't have a tv. I know Tanja from Freshtopia doesn't, I don't either. It would be interesting to find out whether this is true of lots of people here, or just a few. Is there any correlation between turning off your television and making the content yourself? Just thought I would throw that question to the group. interesting question I think the correlation may be very high. For one thing, making media simply takes time and that cuts down amount I might watch television. These days, most of my video watching is online and through out the day, not at one time. I watch almost no television programming, although I still use my tv to watch DVD and VHS movies that I own. Unfortunately, I still feel that I see more tv programming than I would like just by passing by when others are watching. Most people that I have asked who claim to like television say that they like the veg time. While I can still get absorbed in a good video or film, I not into vegging at all. Recently we had a major fire. I turned on the TV to find out what was up. I must admit, it gave me great information. There was just a bulletin on the screen that said to check out my friend Tyler's http://ojaipost.com vlog!!! So much for television :) Markus -- http://tools.ourmedia.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Wii access to online video basically works this way-- it plays flash video, and I think only up to Flash 7 or something like that. It's enough to play YouTube, and YMMV outside of that. To do it, go to the Wii Shop Channel and get the Opera web browser. It used to be free...I think now they sell it for a small amount of money. I love having the browser on my Wii and use it quite often. It's a handy way to show a website on a larger screen when I don't feel like fumbling to get my laptop connected. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime Very interested in how the Wii accesses online video. Any links to info on that? My wife just bought one and I'd like to start viewing my personal Mefeedia channel on it, which gives me one consolidated feed to the 67 videoblogs that I am watching. Devices such as the Wii are exactly why a personal channel works. I can manage all of my subscriptions on the Web and maybe even enjoy a few videos on my computer - but when I am ready to really relax, lay back with a beer, and sit in front of the TV, I want to just watch this personal channel of everything that is new from the 67 videoblogs that I like. I am infinitely excited to start using this. The path to the TV is becoming much clearer. Regards, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mefeedia.com/user/franks/ http://mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Share video blogs _ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Rhett Aultman Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:49 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Owning a television... I have three televisions, one of which is HD. I sometimes (very rarely) use the HDTV as a monitor for my laptop, but that's a minimal use case. I watch TV a pretty fair amount and own a TiVO. In fact, it was via my TiVO that I found Rocketboom and got inspired to videoblog. I have also converted one of our older videoblog entries to a DVD format to submit to more traditional film and video festivals. Additionally, it's pretty common for me to watch YouTube or flash videos on my TV using my Nintendo Wii. It's the easiest way to see them on a large screen without having to fiddle with cables. TV is one screen of many, and it's not to be ignored, in my estimation. It's so iconic of the bad old days that, when people speak of media convergence or new media, they throw out the TV, but I think there's an unexplored country in ways to bring new media and better options for media convergence to the TV. Given how many households will continue to use it as their first screen, it's still an essential part of the mix. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherl http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime ight.com/freetime http://www.weatherl http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime ight.com/greentime I wanted to conduct a quick straw poll to see how many people here don't own a/don't watch 'normal' tv. I was just reading a message from MissB where she comments on the fact that she doesn't have a tv. I know Tanja from Freshtopia doesn't, I don't either. It would be interesting to find out whether this is true of lots of people here, or just a few. Is there any correlation between turning off your television and making the content yourself? Just thought I would throw that question to the group. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
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It's worth noting that, despite the fact that I watch a lot of television, I'm generally not focusing on it. Between my job, my doctorate, Greentime, Freetime (still technically active), the ever-impending-event (was my wedding, now it's Dragon*Con), gym, garden, baking and brewing, etc, etc, I don't have a lot of time in the day. But, I often have time when I'm cooking dinner. So, I flip on The Simpsons and listen to an episode. When I come home to eat lunch, I catch up on The Daily Show or The Colbert Report. While I'm digging through a book, editing, or updating a website, I might put on an episode of Mythbusters or maybe a lacrosse or hockey game. My attention span is a funny beast. I have a hard time focusing on one thing for any period of time, but if two things compete for my attention, things get easier. The only thing on TV that gets my undivided attention is Battlestar Galactica. Anything resembling vegging out is usually done after I've been out with friends and I'm a little too drunk to be productive anymore. I almost never use my TV for watching a movie, incidentally. I don't sit still long enough for watching movies, and when I do, they generally annoy me. I loved movies until I started making my own. Then I started noticing awkward cuts, bad performances, plot and pacing issues, etc. If I want to get frustrated, Fox News broadcasts 24 hours a day, and they'll do the job much quicker than a film. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime For one thing, making media simply takes time and that cuts down amount I might watch television. These days, most of my video watching is online and through out the day, not at one time. I watch almost no television programming, although I still use my tv to watch DVD and VHS movies that I own. Unfortunately, I still feel that I see more tv programming than I would like just by passing by when others are watching. Most people that I have asked who claim to like television say that they like the veg time. While I can still get absorbed in a good video or film, I not into vegging at all. Recently we had a major fire. I turned on the TV to find out what was up. I must admit, it gave me great information. There was just a bulletin on the screen that said to check out my friend Tyler's http://ojaipost.com vlog!!! So much for television :) Markus -- http://tools.ourmedia.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
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I had a TV/VCR combo which died in March after about seven years. Eventually I will replace it with a HD set, but I'm not in any hurry (they get better and cheaper). I can get most of what I want to watch on DVD or online. I'm also subscribing to more video now that I have an iPhone. -- Steve Rhodes http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos http://ari.typepad.com http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat interesting articles sites http://twitter.com/tigerbeat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yeah, I never watch live TV any more. Or any TV, I guess. Interesting timing of the question - we just finally got round to cancelling our satellite TV, and last night - for the first time in a long time - I saw a news bulletin and a police drama on TV and couldn't believe it. They looked so weird. It was like when you go to another country and you turn on the TV and everything looks a bit ugly and unfamiliar. But it was the BBC. I felt like I was watching a parody - the weird lacquered-over news presenters trying to be friendly to you from behind a desk - or, more disturbing, standing up to introduce reports and graphics (uselessly, but like they were poised for some kind of action). And in the police drama, I found myself laughing out loud at the staging of the shots, the editing, the construction of the narrative, the hamminess of the script and acting. I realised I'd been watching nothing but videoblogs for at least 3 months. I suddenly have this incredible bullshit detector. The last thing I watched on TV was Lost, which ended in May, I think. Someone I know makes a couple of shows, but one of them's a panel discussion and the BBC video podcast that, so I usually watch it on iTunes or on my iPod. Even radio has fallen away. For years, I started the day listening to the Radio 4 Today Programme, which is full of journalists getting aggressive with politicians, but I can't cope with its relentless pitching of opposing points of view against each other, and the fruitless search for a truth or admission that never comes. Everything on TV or radio or in the papers now seems like an expensive Punch and Judy show staged to keep children quiet at a party. I guess videoblogging has turned me into a freak, outside the acceptable discourse of main stream society. On the tube home this evening, I watched Raymond cycling round Copenhagen for 15 minutes on my iPod. Not saying anything, just cycling along the streets. It was really calming to watch on a hot, crowded tube. But the people squished in next to me must have wondered what the *hell* was being said or sung over the video to make it so interesting. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 3 Aug 2007, at 23:46, J. Rhett Aultman wrote: It's worth noting that, despite the fact that I watch a lot of television, I'm generally not focusing on it. Between my job, my doctorate, Greentime, Freetime (still technically active), the ever-impending-event (was my wedding, now it's Dragon*Con), gym, garden, baking and brewing, etc, etc, I don't have a lot of time in the day. But, I often have time when I'm cooking dinner. So, I flip on The Simpsons and listen to an episode. When I come home to eat lunch, I catch up on The Daily Show or The Colbert Report. While I'm digging through a book, editing, or updating a website, I might put on an episode of Mythbusters or maybe a lacrosse or hockey game. My attention span is a funny beast. I have a hard time focusing on one thing for any period of time, but if two things compete for my attention, things get easier. The only thing on TV that gets my undivided attention is Battlestar Galactica. Anything resembling vegging out is usually done after I've been out with friends and I'm a little too drunk to be productive anymore. I almost never use my TV for watching a movie, incidentally. I don't sit still long enough for watching movies, and when I do, they generally annoy me. I loved movies until I started making my own. Then I started noticing awkward cuts, bad performances, plot and pacing issues, etc. If I want to get frustrated, Fox News broadcasts 24 hours a day, and they'll do the job much quicker than a film. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime For one thing, making media simply takes time and that cuts down amount I might watch television. These days, most of my video watching is online and through out the day, not at one time. I watch almost no television programming, although I still use my tv to watch DVD and VHS movies that I own. Unfortunately, I still feel that I see more tv programming than I would like just by passing by when others are watching. Most people that I have asked who claim to like television say that they like the veg time. While I can still get absorbed in a good video or film, I not into vegging at all. Recently we had a major fire. I turned on the TV to find out what was up. I must admit, it gave me great information. There was just a bulletin on the screen that said to check out my friend Tyler's http://ojaipost.com vlog!!! So much for television :) Markus -- http://tools.ourmedia.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I have one TV, a 34 inch Sony circa 1998. I do not subscribe to any television networks and only use netflix and the internet for video for the last 18 months. I miss HBO (though i can get backlogged seasons on netflix) and I miss Baseball (Mets fan!). On 8/3/07, beth_tilston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to conduct a quick straw poll to see how many people here don't own a/don't watch 'normal' tv. I was just reading a message from MissB where she comments on the fact that she doesn't have a tv. I know Tanja from Freshtopia doesn't, I don't either. It would be interesting to find out whether this is true of lots of people here, or just a few. Is there any correlation between turning off your television and making the content yourself? Just thought I would throw that question to the group. Beth [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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They looked so weird. It was like when you go to another country and you turn on the TV and everything looks a bit ugly and unfamiliar. So true. I am in awe when I am watching TV at family/friends/bars now. It is such a strange beast. Plasticity Maximus. On 8/3/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I never watch live TV any more. Or any TV, I guess. Interesting timing of the question - we just finally got round to cancelling our satellite TV, and last night - for the first time in a long time - I saw a news bulletin and a police drama on TV and couldn't believe it. They looked so weird. It was like when you go to another country and you turn on the TV and everything looks a bit ugly and unfamiliar. But it was the BBC. I felt like I was watching a parody - the weird lacquered-over news presenters trying to be friendly to you from behind a desk - or, more disturbing, standing up to introduce reports and graphics (uselessly, but like they were poised for some kind of action). And in the police drama, I found myself laughing out loud at the staging of the shots, the editing, the construction of the narrative, the hamminess of the script and acting. I realised I'd been watching nothing but videoblogs for at least 3 months. I suddenly have this incredible bullshit detector. The last thing I watched on TV was Lost, which ended in May, I think. Someone I know makes a couple of shows, but one of them's a panel discussion and the BBC video podcast that, so I usually watch it on iTunes or on my iPod. Even radio has fallen away. For years, I started the day listening to the Radio 4 Today Programme, which is full of journalists getting aggressive with politicians, but I can't cope with its relentless pitching of opposing points of view against each other, and the fruitless search for a truth or admission that never comes. Everything on TV or radio or in the papers now seems like an expensive Punch and Judy show staged to keep children quiet at a party. I guess videoblogging has turned me into a freak, outside the acceptable discourse of main stream society. On the tube home this evening, I watched Raymond cycling round Copenhagen for 15 minutes on my iPod. Not saying anything, just cycling along the streets. It was really calming to watch on a hot, crowded tube. But the people squished in next to me must have wondered what the *hell* was being said or sung over the video to make it so interesting. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 3 Aug 2007, at 23:46, J. Rhett Aultman wrote: It's worth noting that, despite the fact that I watch a lot of television, I'm generally not focusing on it. Between my job, my doctorate, Greentime, Freetime (still technically active), the ever-impending-event (was my wedding, now it's Dragon*Con), gym, garden, baking and brewing, etc, etc, I don't have a lot of time in the day. But, I often have time when I'm cooking dinner. So, I flip on The Simpsons and listen to an episode. When I come home to eat lunch, I catch up on The Daily Show or The Colbert Report. While I'm digging through a book, editing, or updating a website, I might put on an episode of Mythbusters or maybe a lacrosse or hockey game. My attention span is a funny beast. I have a hard time focusing on one thing for any period of time, but if two things compete for my attention, things get easier. The only thing on TV that gets my undivided attention is Battlestar Galactica. Anything resembling vegging out is usually done after I've been out with friends and I'm a little too drunk to be productive anymore. I almost never use my TV for watching a movie, incidentally. I don't sit still long enough for watching movies, and when I do, they generally annoy me. I loved movies until I started making my own. Then I started noticing awkward cuts, bad performances, plot and pacing issues, etc. If I want to get frustrated, Fox News broadcasts 24 hours a day, and they'll do the job much quicker than a film. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime For one thing, making media simply takes time and that cuts down amount I might watch television. These days, most of my video watching is online and through out the day, not at one time. I watch almost no television programming, although I still use my tv to watch DVD and VHS movies that I own. Unfortunately, I still feel that I see more tv programming than I would like just by passing by when others are watching. Most people that I have asked who claim to like television say that they like the veg time. While I can still get absorbed in a good video or film, I not into vegging at all. Recently we had a major fire. I turned on the TV to find out what was up. I must admit, it gave me great information. There was just a bulletin on the screen that said to check out my
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We have 3 TV's in our house, cable subscription and 1 DVR. I watch only about 2 - 3 hours of TV a week depending on what shows are running - most of them are things on HBO. I have a Netflix subscription and probably watch 1 - 2 movies a week. Since I got a Wii for my birthday I've probably added about 3 hours a week of games. Speaking of games, I'm probably in Second Life about 2 hours a week. I probably spend about 10 hours a week reading things on the web and about 2 hours watching videoblogs. And you can also add about 6 hours of reading books. So kind of interesting - when you add it up it looks like I spend up to 30 hours a week consuming media with only really a small percentage (7%) being videoblogs. TV 10% Movies 13% games 10% virtual worlds 7% web reading 33% videoblogs 7% books 20% 4 years ago it probably would have looked like this: TV 30% Movies 40% Web 10% Books 20% The really big difference is that I spend at least this much time actively producing media (video, websites, blogs, machinima, etc) each week where 4 years ago it was probably only 8 - 10hrs a week. So I'd have to say that since videoblogging my media consumption has diversified and more importantly (I think) my media production has gone way up. - Verdi
