Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network
I think you just describe NING, pretty much all those things can be done there and you have a barrier, in that members need to sign up and login. The forum side of it is configurable, chat works as a plug in and everyone has their own page or wall.. Cheers Rambo Rupert Howe wrote: I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. It seems to me that we could benefit from a Facebook-style, Ning-style or Drupal-based site where we could have this same kind of disussion forum, but where we could also upload/link a lot of other content - particularly videos - and connect in other ways. What I want is a bridge between RSS, Twitter, threaded discussions, community hub and information archive. I want a non-corporate community-owned place where I can go, where there are lots of online video people, where I can: a) post links to things of interest (i do that here sometimes) b) Bookmark videos I like (harder to do that here) c) chat in asynchronous twitter style but with preserved threads that allow more than just statement response end d) talk about more serious internet video things (i do that here) f) Bookmark whole sites/channels/videoblogs, like a vlogroll, but much larger, and with an aggregated directory of all sites for everyone to browse, in categories. g) Form groups for different types of people/sites/channels/videos/ interests h) post other types of content - photos, etc i) a place for people to come up with coordinate collaborative projects and challenges like vbweek j) an archive like the videoblogginggroup Wiki for sharing advice suggestions Oh my god, this sounds like Facebook for online video people. But I HATE Facebook. So how come? I think what I hate most about Facebook is the lack of boundary between people from different parts of your life - work, home, hobbies, etc. I want something like Facebook, but that's a videoblogging ghetto. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv http://twittervlog.tv No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.110/2385 - Release Date: 09/20/09 17:51:00 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network
ning could work. I'm on a couple of ning sites (we make zines subversive knitting) they work quite well. I never check facebook groups unless someone directs me. but ning sends me an email for some of the posts so I check more often. plus it's prob easier for someone to manage? (admin wise) drupal is good too if someone has time to set it up. I'd prob vote ning as first pick 2009/9/21 Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yeah - I used Ning to set up Navlopomo a couple of years ago - we just used it to embed videos in discussion threads - but a lot of people didn't like the interface for some reason. My main objection to it was the fact that everything was locked in the Ning system. If Ning went bust or the servers went kaput, we could lose everything. I'd prefer to use something that was Open used exportable data. On 21-Sep-09, at 12:22 PM, Rambos Locker wrote: I think you just describe NING, pretty much all those things can be done there and you have a barrier, in that members need to sign up and login. The forum side of it is configurable, chat works as a plug in and everyone has their own page or wall.. Cheers Rambo Rupert Howe wrote: I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. It seems to me that we could benefit from a Facebook-style, Ning- style or Drupal-based site where we could have this same kind of disussion forum, but where we could also upload/link a lot of other content - particularly videos - and connect in other ways. What I want is a bridge between RSS, Twitter, threaded discussions, community hub and information archive. I want a non-corporate community-owned place where I can go, where there are lots of online video people, where I can: a) post links to things of interest (i do that here sometimes) b) Bookmark videos I like (harder to do that here) c) chat in asynchronous twitter style but with preserved threads that allow more than just statement response end d) talk about more serious internet video things (i do that here) f) Bookmark whole sites/channels/videoblogs, like a vlogroll, but much larger, and with an aggregated directory of all sites for everyone to browse, in categories. g) Form groups for different types of people/sites/channels/videos/ interests h) post other types of content - photos, etc i) a place for people to come up with coordinate collaborative projects and challenges like vbweek j) an archive like the videoblogginggroup Wiki for sharing advice suggestions Oh my god, this sounds like Facebook for online video people. But I HATE Facebook. So how come? I think what I hate most about Facebook is the lack of boundary between people from different parts of your life - work, home, hobbies, etc. I want something like Facebook, but that's a videoblogging ghetto. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv http://twittervlog.tv -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.110/2385 - Release Date: 09/20/09 17:51:00 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I remember the biggest complaint about Ning during Navlopomo was that they didn't include the text of the message in the emails they send you. Have they changed that? On 21-Sep-09, at 12:26 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: ning could work. I'm on a couple of ning sites (we make zines subversive knitting) they work quite well. I never check facebook groups unless someone directs me. but ning sends me an email for some of the posts so I check more often. plus it's prob easier for someone to manage? (admin wise) drupal is good too if someone has time to set it up. I'd prob vote ning as first pick 2009/9/21 Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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ok myabe drupal then if you want opensource/exportable. it's great for community sites. or joomla (the online course sites I use maybelogic.netuses joomla. has forums etc too, not sure about video but there's prob a joomla plugin) the ning emails I get are links back to the site to read the posts - not sure if this is configurable by admins? but if someone sends me a message to my user account I see most of the message (it truncates in the email but has a link to the site) 2009/9/21 Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv I remember the biggest complaint about Ning during Navlopomo was that they didn't include the text of the message in the emails they send you. Have they changed that? On 21-Sep-09, at 12:26 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: ning could work. I'm on a couple of ning sites (we make zines subversive knitting) they work quite well. I never check facebook groups unless someone directs me. but ning sends me an email for some of the posts so I check more often. plus it's prob easier for someone to manage? (admin wise) drupal is good too if someone has time to set it up. I'd prob vote ning as first pick 2009/9/21 Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv rupert%40twittervlog.tv I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://www.aliak.com http://www.brisbanedancepartiesarchive.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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The only downside to something more open like a drupal install is that someone (or even better, a couple of someones) need to commit to running / maintaining the thing. Also possibly paying a little bit once in a while if it has a domain name, etc. But I agree - it DOES sound like the next iteration of this videoblogging group. And I like those ideas! David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Kath O'Donnell alia...@gmail.com wrote: ok myabe drupal then if you want opensource/exportable. it's great for community sites. or joomla (the online course sites I use maybelogic.netuses joomla. has forums etc too, not sure about video but there's prob a joomla plugin) the ning emails I get are links back to the site to read the posts - not sure if this is configurable by admins? but if someone sends me a message to my user account I see most of the message (it truncates in the email but has a link to the site) 2009/9/21 Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv I remember the biggest complaint about Ning during Navlopomo was that they didn't include the text of the message in the emails they send you. Have they changed that? On 21-Sep-09, at 12:26 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: ning could work. I'm on a couple of ning sites (we make zines subversive knitting) they work quite well. I never check facebook groups unless someone directs me. but ning sends me an email for some of the posts so I check more often. plus it's prob easier for someone to manage? (admin wise) drupal is good too if someone has time to set it up. I'd prob vote ning as first pick 2009/9/21 Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv rupert%40twittervlog.tv I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://www.aliak.com http://www.brisbanedancepartiesarchive.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I remember the biggest complaint about Ning during Navlopomo was that they didn't include the text of the message in the emails they send you. Have they changed that? Ning never changed their email notifications. You get told there's a message...and then must go to the site to read it. Ive always felt Ning groups are way too busy with noise. It would be interesting to have a more full featured group site. Ive always wanted better archives and ways to document the smart things people post. Ive tried to do it in a very limited way the past several years on this wiki: http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/ It's open to anyone to add/edit. As you've mentioned, we bring it up every so often to move to a forum or website. Rupert, I think you stated a facebook group for videoblogging a couple years ago. It's really about someone owning the process. Plus, it's been said that email lists push these messages to my inbox. If I had to remember to visit a site, I'd be less inclined to do this unless it was SUPER compelling. The interesting thing about this group is that it comes in waves. Some months it seems dead. Then someone pops up and starts a really interesting conversation. Every six months or so, some new people join that inject life back into older conversations. People subscribe and unsubscribe depending on their mood. As Verdi said recently, many of us seem less inclined to do development work, or make work. Tired of building plugins and websites and customizing opensource flash players. Seems things quieter here because, I think, many of us are just creating. A lot of the boundaries are gone. That's a really good thing. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
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I think Vloggerheads does a pretty good job with their social network, came about after a big Youtube defection: http://vloggerheads.com Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv http://hatfactory.net http://VideoCampSF.com - Oct. 16-17 AIM:schlomochat On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. It seems to me that we could benefit from a Facebook-style, Ning-style or Drupal-based site where we could have this same kind of disussion forum, but where we could also upload/link a lot of other content - particularly videos - and connect in other ways. What I want is a bridge between RSS, Twitter, threaded discussions, community hub and information archive. I want a non-corporate community-owned place where I can go, where there are lots of online video people, where I can: a) post links to things of interest (i do that here sometimes) b) Bookmark videos I like (harder to do that here) c) chat in asynchronous twitter style but with preserved threads that allow more than just statement response end d) talk about more serious internet video things (i do that here) f) Bookmark whole sites/channels/videoblogs, like a vlogroll, but much larger, and with an aggregated directory of all sites for everyone to browse, in categories. g) Form groups for different types of people/sites/channels/videos/ interests h) post other types of content - photos, etc i) a place for people to come up with coordinate collaborative projects and challenges like vbweek j) an archive like the videoblogginggroup Wiki for sharing advice suggestions Oh my god, this sounds like Facebook for online video people. But I HATE Facebook. So how come? I think what I hate most about Facebook is the lack of boundary between people from different parts of your life - work, home, hobbies, etc. I want something like Facebook, but that's a videoblogging ghetto. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Schlomo, Thanks so much for suggesting http://vloggerheads.com/. I just checked it out and have a pending request to join. Lots of hidden gems out there. Spencer Soper www.mcall.com/onthecheap Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/On-The-Cheap/72688794821?ref=ts --- On Mon, 9/21/09, schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com wrote: From: schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:18 AM I think Vloggerheads does a pretty good job with their social network, came about after a big Youtube defection: http://vloggerheads .com Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo. tv http://hatfactory. net http://VideoCampSF. com - Oct. 16-17 AIM:schlomochat On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog. tv wrote: I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. It seems to me that we could benefit from a Facebook-style, Ning-style or Drupal-based site where we could have this same kind of disussion forum, but where we could also upload/link a lot of other content - particularly videos - and connect in other ways. What I want is a bridge between RSS, Twitter, threaded discussions, community hub and information archive. I want a non-corporate community-owned place where I can go, where there are lots of online video people, where I can: a) post links to things of interest (i do that here sometimes) b) Bookmark videos I like (harder to do that here) c) chat in asynchronous twitter style but with preserved threads that allow more than just statement response end d) talk about more serious internet video things (i do that here) f) Bookmark whole sites/channels/ videoblogs, like a vlogroll, but much larger, and with an aggregated directory of all sites for everyone to browse, in categories. g) Form groups for different types of people/sites/ channels/ videos/ interests h) post other types of content - photos, etc i) a place for people to come up with coordinate collaborative projects and challenges like vbweek j) an archive like the videoblogginggroup Wiki for sharing advice suggestions Oh my god, this sounds like Facebook for online video people. But I HATE Facebook. So how come? I think what I hate most about Facebook is the lack of boundary between people from different parts of your life - work, home, hobbies, etc. I want something like Facebook, but that's a videoblogging ghetto. Rupert http://twittervlog. tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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You know, after 3 odd years of thinking I am a videoblogger, You know I really don't think I am. Absolutely none of this vloggerheads interests me in the slightest. Its just a load of talking heads. What a revelation!! Paul On 21 Sep 2009, at 17:44, Spencer Soper wrote: Schlomo, Thanks so much for suggesting http://vloggerheads.com/. I just checked it out and have a pending request to join. Lots of hidden gems out there. Spencer Soper www.mcall.com/onthecheap Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/On-The-Cheap/72688794821?ref=ts --- On Mon, 9/21/09, schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com wrote: From: schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:18 AM I think Vloggerheads does a pretty good job with their social network, came about after a big Youtube defection: http://vloggerheads .com Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo. tv http://hatfactory. net http://VideoCampSF. com - Oct. 16-17 AIM:schlomochat On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog. tv wrote: I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. It seems to me that we could benefit from a Facebook-style, Ning- style or Drupal-based site where we could have this same kind of disussion forum, but where we could also upload/link a lot of other content - particularly videos - and connect in other ways. What I want is a bridge between RSS, Twitter, threaded discussions, community hub and information archive. I want a non-corporate community-owned place where I can go, where there are lots of online video people, where I can: a) post links to things of interest (i do that here sometimes) b) Bookmark videos I like (harder to do that here) c) chat in asynchronous twitter style but with preserved threads that allow more than just statement response end d) talk about more serious internet video things (i do that here) f) Bookmark whole sites/channels/ videoblogs, like a vlogroll, but much larger, and with an aggregated directory of all sites for everyone to browse, in categories. g) Form groups for different types of people/sites/ channels/ videos/ interests h) post other types of content - photos, etc i) a place for people to come up with coordinate collaborative projects and challenges like vbweek j) an archive like the videoblogginggroup Wiki for sharing advice suggestions Oh my god, this sounds like Facebook for online video people. But I HATE Facebook. So how come? I think what I hate most about Facebook is the lack of boundary between people from different parts of your life - work, home, hobbies, etc. I want something like Facebook, but that's a videoblogging ghetto. Rupert http://twittervlog. tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Though I understand what you are saying re: talking heads, Paul.. I dunno..It's always easier to tear something down than to build it up. You seem to be good at tearing other things down, so I guess you've found your super power! I'm kinda jealous. Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv http://hatfactory.net http://VideoCampSF.com - Oct. 16-17 AIM:schlomochat On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Paul Knight paul.knig...@btinternet.comwrote: You know, after 3 odd years of thinking I am a videoblogger, You know I really don't think I am. Absolutely none of this vloggerheads interests me in the slightest. Its just a load of talking heads. What a revelation!! Paul On 21 Sep 2009, at 17:44, Spencer Soper wrote: Schlomo, Thanks so much for suggesting http://vloggerheads.com/. I just checked it out and have a pending request to join. Lots of hidden gems out there. Spencer Soper www.mcall.com/onthecheap Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/On-The-Cheap/72688794821?ref=ts --- On Mon, 9/21/09, schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.comschlomo%40gmail.com wrote: From: schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com schlomo%40gmail.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:18 AM I think Vloggerheads does a pretty good job with their social network, came about after a big Youtube defection: http://vloggerheads .com Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo. tv http://hatfactory. net http://VideoCampSF. com - Oct. 16-17 AIM:schlomochat On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog. tv wrote: I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. It seems to me that we could benefit from a Facebook-style, Ning- style or Drupal-based site where we could have this same kind of disussion forum, but where we could also upload/link a lot of other content - particularly videos - and connect in other ways. What I want is a bridge between RSS, Twitter, threaded discussions, community hub and information archive. I want a non-corporate community-owned place where I can go, where there are lots of online video people, where I can: a) post links to things of interest (i do that here sometimes) b) Bookmark videos I like (harder to do that here) c) chat in asynchronous twitter style but with preserved threads that allow more than just statement response end d) talk about more serious internet video things (i do that here) f) Bookmark whole sites/channels/ videoblogs, like a vlogroll, but much larger, and with an aggregated directory of all sites for everyone to browse, in categories. g) Form groups for different types of people/sites/ channels/ videos/ interests h) post other types of content - photos, etc i) a place for people to come up with coordinate collaborative projects and challenges like vbweek j) an archive like the videoblogginggroup Wiki for sharing advice suggestions Oh my god, this sounds like Facebook for online video people. But I HATE Facebook. So how come? I think what I hate most about Facebook is the lack of boundary between people from different parts of your life - work, home, hobbies, etc. I want something like Facebook, but that's a videoblogging ghetto. Rupert http://twittervlog. tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi schlomo, It as come to me like a bolt from the blue... Just like some people get to be Atheists. I am not a videoblogger, never have been. Good luck to these people who think they are, good for them, it's great. But I feel now that, I am not a videoblogger, yeah I use video, and I sure use blogger(tm), but I think that's why I never got, and got so very angry about and so frustrated with in the old days. I am just not that interested in watching other peoples videos, an absolute fundamental reason for doing internet video. It all makes sense to me now. Paul On 21 Sep 2009, at 18:20, schlomo rabinowitz wrote: Though I understand what you are saying re: talking heads, Paul.. I dunno..It's always easier to tear something down than to build it up. You seem to be good at tearing other things down, so I guess you've found your super power! I'm kinda jealous. Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv http://hatfactory.net http://VideoCampSF.com - Oct. 16-17 AIM:schlomochat On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Paul Knight paul.knig...@btinternet.comwrote: You know, after 3 odd years of thinking I am a videoblogger, You know I really don't think I am. Absolutely none of this vloggerheads interests me in the slightest. Its just a load of talking heads. What a revelation!! Paul On 21 Sep 2009, at 17:44, Spencer Soper wrote: Schlomo, Thanks so much for suggesting http://vloggerheads.com/. I just checked it out and have a pending request to join. Lots of hidden gems out there. Spencer Soper www.mcall.com/onthecheap Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/On-The-Cheap/72688794821?ref=ts --- On Mon, 9/21/09, schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.comschlomo%40gmail.com wrote: From: schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com schlomo%40gmail.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging %40yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:18 AM I think Vloggerheads does a pretty good job with their social network, came about after a big Youtube defection: http://vloggerheads .com Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo. tv http://hatfactory. net http://VideoCampSF. com - Oct. 16-17 AIM:schlomochat On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog. tv wrote: I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. It seems to me that we could benefit from a Facebook-style, Ning- style or Drupal-based site where we could have this same kind of disussion forum, but where we could also upload/link a lot of other content - particularly videos - and connect in other ways. What I want is a bridge between RSS, Twitter, threaded discussions, community hub and information archive. I want a non-corporate community-owned place where I can go, where there are lots of online video people, where I can: a) post links to things of interest (i do that here sometimes) b) Bookmark videos I like (harder to do that here) c) chat in asynchronous twitter style but with preserved threads that allow more than just statement response end d) talk about more serious internet video things (i do that here) f) Bookmark whole sites/channels/ videoblogs, like a vlogroll, but much larger, and with an aggregated directory of all sites for everyone to browse, in categories. g) Form groups for different types of people/sites/ channels/ videos/ interests h) post other types of content - photos, etc i) a place for people to come up with coordinate collaborative projects and challenges like vbweek j) an archive like the videoblogginggroup Wiki for sharing advice suggestions Oh my god, this sounds like Facebook for online video people. But I HATE Facebook. So how come? I think what I hate most about Facebook is the lack of boundary between people from different parts of your life - work, home, hobbies, etc. I want something like Facebook, but that's a videoblogging ghetto. Rupert http://twittervlog. tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network
I was going to suggest ning too as it does have so many features. There is a lot of RSS built in that allows for reading; but yes, must log in (AFAIK) to participate. But the participation is so much more fantastic than an email list. Simplicity vs depth, that is the question. It too does take a little admin, tho nowhere near as much as a drupal site. Admins can send emails to the membership with highlights of what is going on this week; we could rotate that role on a monthly basis. And some day I hope they include the message in the body of the notification! It is irritating. Aloha, roxanne On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Paul Knight paul.knig...@btinternet.comwrote: Hi schlomo, It as come to me like a bolt from the blue... Just like some people get to be Atheists. I am not a videoblogger, never have been. Good luck to these people who think they are, good for them, it's great. But I feel now that, I am not a videoblogger, yeah I use video, and I sure use blogger(tm), but I think that's why I never got, and got so very angry about and so frustrated with in the old days. I am just not that interested in watching other peoples videos, an absolute fundamental reason for doing internet video. It all makes sense to me now. Paul On 21 Sep 2009, at 18:20, schlomo rabinowitz wrote: Though I understand what you are saying re: talking heads, Paul.. I dunno..It's always easier to tear something down than to build it up. You seem to be good at tearing other things down, so I guess you've found your super power! I'm kinda jealous. Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo.tv http://hatfactory.net http://VideoCampSF.com - Oct. 16-17 AIM:schlomochat On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Paul Knight paul.knig...@btinternet.com paul.knight7%40btinternet.comwrote: You know, after 3 odd years of thinking I am a videoblogger, You know I really don't think I am. Absolutely none of this vloggerheads interests me in the slightest. Its just a load of talking heads. What a revelation!! Paul On 21 Sep 2009, at 17:44, Spencer Soper wrote: Schlomo, Thanks so much for suggesting http://vloggerheads.com/. I just checked it out and have a pending request to join. Lots of hidden gems out there. Spencer Soper www.mcall.com/onthecheap Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/On-The-Cheap/72688794821?ref=ts --- On Mon, 9/21/09, schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com schlomo%40gmail.comschlomo%40gmail.com wrote: From: schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com schlomo%40gmail.comschlomo% 40gmail.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging %40yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:18 AM I think Vloggerheads does a pretty good job with their social network, came about after a big Youtube defection: http://vloggerheads .com Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomo. tv http://hatfactory. net http://VideoCampSF. com - Oct. 16-17 AIM:schlomochat On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog. tv wrote: I know we return to this every so often - how to add more functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I wanted to jot it down here while it was still fresh. It seems to me that we could benefit from a Facebook-style, Ning- style or Drupal-based site where we could have this same kind of disussion forum, but where we could also upload/link a lot of other content - particularly videos - and connect in other ways. What I want is a bridge between RSS, Twitter, threaded discussions, community hub and information archive. I want a non-corporate community-owned place where I can go, where there are lots of online video people, where I can: a) post links to things of interest (i do that here sometimes) b) Bookmark videos I like (harder to do that here) c) chat in asynchronous twitter style but with preserved threads that allow more than just statement response end d) talk about more serious internet video things (i do that here) f) Bookmark whole sites/channels/ videoblogs, like a vlogroll, but much larger, and with an aggregated directory of all sites for everyone to browse, in categories. g) Form groups for different types of people/sites/ channels/ videos/ interests h) post other types of content - photos, etc i) a place for people to come up with coordinate collaborative projects and challenges like vbweek j) an archive like the videoblogginggroup Wiki for sharing advice suggestions Oh my god, this sounds like Facebook for online video people. But I HATE Facebook. So how come
Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network
Feel free to make whatever new community based off this group that you
want, but does that sound good for a group that is 99.9% Lurkers?
Sounds like making a ghosttown.
On Monday, September 21, 2009, Roxanne Darling oke...@gmail.com wrote:
I was going to suggest ning too as it does have so many
features. There is a
lot of RSS built in that allows for reading; but yes, must log in (AFAIK) to
participate. But the participation is so much more fantastic than an email
list. Simplicity vs depth, that is the question. It too does take a little
admin, tho nowhere near as much as a drupal site.
Admins can send emails to the membership with highlights of what is going on
this week; we could rotate that role on a monthly basis. And some day I
hope they include the message in the body of the notification! It is
irritating.
Aloha,
roxanne
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Paul Knight
paul.knig...@btinternet.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'paul.knight7%40btinternet.com');wrote:
Hi schlomo,
It as come to me like a bolt from the blue... Just like some people
get to be Atheists. I am not a videoblogger, never have been. Good
luck to these people who think they are, good for them, it's great.
But I feel now that, I am not a videoblogger, yeah I use video, and I
sure use blogger(tm), but I think that's why I never got, and got so
very angry about and so frustrated with in the old days. I am just
not that interested in watching other peoples videos, an absolute
fundamental reason for doing internet video. It all makes sense to me
now.
Paul
On 21 Sep 2009, at 18:20, schlomo rabinowitz wrote:
Though I understand what you are saying re: talking heads, Paul.. I
dunno..It's always easier to tear something down than to build it up.
You seem to be good at tearing other things down, so I guess you've
found
your super power! I'm kinda jealous.
Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv
http://hatfactory.net
http://VideoCampSF.com - Oct. 16-17
AIM:schlomochat
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Paul Knight
paul.knig...@btinternet.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'paul.knight7%40btinternet.com'); paul.knight7%40btinternet.comwrote:
You know, after 3 odd years of thinking I am a videoblogger, You
know
I really don't think I am.
Absolutely none of this vloggerheads interests me in the slightest.
Its just a load of talking heads.
What a revelation!!
Paul
On 21 Sep 2009, at 17:44, Spencer Soper wrote:
Schlomo,
Thanks so much for suggesting http://vloggerheads.com/. I just
checked it out and have a pending request to join. Lots of hidden
gems out there.
Spencer Soper
www.mcall.com/onthecheap
Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/On-The-Cheap/72688794821?ref=ts
--- On Mon, 9/21/09, schlomo rabinowitz
schl...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'schlomo%40gmail.com');
schlomo%40gmail.comschlomo%40gmail.com
wrote:
From: schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'schlomo%40gmail.com'); schlomo%40gmail.comschlomo%
40gmail.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network
To: videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com');
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging
%40yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:18 AM
I think Vloggerheads does a pretty good job with their social
network, came
about after a big Youtube defection:
http://vloggerheads .com
Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo. tv
http://hatfactory. net
http://VideoCampSF. com - Oct. 16-17
AIM:schlomochat
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.
tv wrote:
I know we return to this every so often - how to add more
functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I
wanted to
jot it down here while it was still fresh.
It seems to me that we could benefit from a Facebook-style,
Ning-
style
or Drupal-based site where we could have this same kind of
disussion
forum, but where we could also upload/link a lot of other
content -
particularly videos - and connect in other ways.
What I want is a bridge between RSS, Twitter, threaded
discussions,
community hub and information archive.
I want a non-corporate community-owned place where I can go,
where
there are lots of online video people, where I can:
a) post links to things of interest (i do that here sometimes)
b) Bookmark videos I like (harder to do that here)
c) chat in asynchronous twitter style but with preserved threads
that
allow more than just statement response end
d) talk about more serious internet video things (i do that
here)
f) Bookmark whole sites/channels/ videoblogs, like
Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network
Schlomo,
Just FYI: Joined vloggerheads today. Was able to post some video, get some
feedback and see what other vloggers are up to. It even has specialized groups
(you can form your own, too) to target your interests. Seems a pretty active
and involved group for those interested.
thanks again for suggesting.
Spencer
--- On Mon, 9/21/09, schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com wrote:
From: schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 12:44 PM
Feel free to make whatever new community based off this group that you
want, but does that sound good for a group that is 99.9% Lurkers?
Sounds like making a ghosttown.
On Monday, September 21, 2009, Roxanne Darling oke...@gmail. com wrote:
I was going to suggest ning too as it does have so many features. There is a
lot of RSS built in that allows for reading; but yes, must log in (AFAIK) to
participate. But the participation is so much more fantastic than an email
list. Simplicity vs depth, that is the question. It too does take a little
admin, tho nowhere near as much as a drupal site.
Admins can send emails to the membership with highlights of what is going on
this week; we could rotate that role on a monthly basis. And some day I
hope they include the message in the body of the notification! It is
irritating.
Aloha,
roxanne
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Paul Knight paul.knight7@ btinternet.
com javascript: _e({}, 'cvml', 'paul.knight7% 40btinternet. com');wrote:
Hi schlomo,
It as come to me like a bolt from the blue... Just like some people
get to be Atheists. I am not a videoblogger, never have been. Good
luck to these people who think they are, good for them, it's great.
But I feel now that, I am not a videoblogger, yeah I use video, and I
sure use blogger(tm), but I think that's why I never got, and got so
very angry about and so frustrated with in the old days. I am just
not that interested in watching other peoples videos, an absolute
fundamental reason for doing internet video. It all makes sense to me
now.
Paul
On 21 Sep 2009, at 18:20, schlomo rabinowitz wrote:
Though I understand what you are saying re: talking heads, Paul.. I
dunno..It's always easier to tear something down than to build it up.
You seem to be good at tearing other things down, so I guess you've
found
your super power! I'm kinda jealous.
Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo. tv
http://hatfactory. net
http://VideoCampSF. com - Oct. 16-17
AIM:schlomochat
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Paul Knight
paul.knight7@ btinternet. com javascript: _e({}, 'cvml', 'paul.knight7%
40btinternet. com'); paul.knight7% 40btinternet. comwrote:
You know, after 3 odd years of thinking I am a videoblogger, You
know
I really don't think I am.
Absolutely none of this vloggerheads interests me in the slightest.
Its just a load of talking heads.
What a revelation!!
Paul
On 21 Sep 2009, at 17:44, Spencer Soper wrote:
Schlomo,
Thanks so much for suggesting http://vloggerheads .com/. I just
checked it out and have a pending request to join. Lots of hidden
gems out there.
Spencer Soper
www.mcall.com/ onthecheap
Facebook:
http://www.facebook .com/home. php#/pages/ On-The-Cheap/ 72688794821? ref=ts
--- On Mon, 9/21/09, schlomo rabinowitz
schl...@gmail. com javascript: _e({}, 'cvml', 'schlomo%40gmail. com');
schlomo%40gmail. comschlomo% 40gmail.com
wrote:
From: schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail. com javascript: _e({},
'cvml', 'schlomo%40gmail. com'); schlomo%40gmail. comschlomo%
40gmail.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network
To: videoblogging@ yahoogroups. com javascript: _e({}, 'cvml',
'videoblogging% 40yahoogroups. com'); videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.
comvideobloggi ng
%40yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:18 AM
I think Vloggerheads does a pretty good job with their social
network, came
about after a big Youtube defection:
http://vloggerheads .com
Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo. tv
http://hatfactory. net
http://VideoCampSF. com - Oct. 16-17
AIM:schlomochat
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog .
tv wrote:
I know we return to this every so often - how to add more
functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I
wanted to
jot it down here while it was still fresh.
It seems to me that we could benefit from a Facebook-style,
Ning-
style
or Drupal-based site where we could have this same kind of
disussion
forum, but where we could also upload/link a lot of other
content -
particularly videos - and connect in other ways.
What I want is a bridge between RSS, Twitter
Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network
javascript:_e({},
'cvml', 'paul.knight7%40btinternet.com'); paul.knight7%40btinternet.com
wrote:
You know, after 3 odd years of thinking I am a videoblogger, You
know
I really don't think I am.
Absolutely none of this vloggerheads interests me in the slightest.
Its just a load of talking heads.
What a revelation!!
Paul
On 21 Sep 2009, at 17:44, Spencer Soper wrote:
Schlomo,
Thanks so much for suggesting http://vloggerheads.com/. I just
checked it out and have a pending request to join. Lots of hidden
gems out there.
Spencer Soper
www.mcall.com/onthecheap
Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/On-The-Cheap/72688794821?ref=ts
--- On Mon, 9/21/09, schlomo rabinowitz
schl...@gmail.com schlomo%40gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'schlomo%40gmail.com'); schlomo%40gmail.comschlomo%40gmail.com
wrote:
From: schlomo rabinowitz schl...@gmail.com schlomo%40gmail.com
javascript:_e({},
'cvml', 'schlomo%40gmail.com'); schlomo%40gmail.comschlomo%
40gmail.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Videoblogging social network
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
javascript:_e({},
'cvml', 'videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com'); videoblogging%
40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging
%40yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:18 AM
I think Vloggerheads does a pretty good job with their social
network, came
about after a big Youtube defection:
http://vloggerheads .com
Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo. tv
http://hatfactory. net
http://VideoCampSF. com - Oct. 16-17
AIM:schlomochat
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Rupert Howe rup...@twittervlog.
tv wrote:
I know we return to this every so often - how to add more
functionality to this list... I just had a thought, so I
wanted to
jot it down here while it was still fresh.
It seems to me that we could benefit from a Facebook-style,
Ning-
style
or Drupal-based site where we could have this same kind of
disussion
forum, but where we could also upload/link a lot of other
content -
particularly videos - and connect in other ways.
What I want is a bridge between RSS, Twitter, threaded
discussions,
community hub and information archive.
I want a non-corporate community-owned place where I can go,
where
there are lots of online video people, where I can:
a) post links to things of interest (i do that here sometimes)
b) Bookmark videos I like (harder to do that here)
c) chat in asynchronous twitter style but with preserved threads
that
allow more than just statement response end
d) talk about more serious internet video things (i do that
here)
f) Bookmark whole sites/channels/ videoblogs, like a vlogroll,
but
much
larger, and with an aggregated directory of all sites for
everyone
to
browse, in categories.
g) Form groups for different types of people/sites/ channels/
videos/
interests
h) post other types of content - photos, etc
i) a place for people to come up with coordinate collaborative
projects and challenges like vbweek
j) an archive like the videoblogginggroup Wiki for sharing
advice
suggestions
Oh my god, this sounds like Facebook for online video people.
But I
HATE Facebook. So how come? I think what I hate most about
Facebook
is the lack of boundary between people from different parts of
your
life - work, home, hobbies, etc. I want something like
Facebook, but
that's a videoblogging ghetto.
Rupert
http://twittervlog. tv
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Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more
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Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv
http://hatfactory.net
http://VideoCampSF.com - Oct. 16-17
AIM:schlomochat
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