Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?

[Dennis Doros]

Dear Caryl,

In regards to a virus that's a very complex question. Since you can't know
the source of the website or each individual upload (almost all of these
sites have thousands of films uploaded illegally by thousands of people)
and each one of them have probably downloaded a lot of films from illegal
websites, it's very possible that many of them have viruses attached. I'm
not sure there is a way to tell without downloading files and checking them
out. It's definitely comparable to STDs, come to think of it. If you don't
know the person, you're taking a real risk. If you have relations (isn't
that so polite of me?) with a dozen or 100 people, the odds are really not
in your favor. And in terms of downloading, you may think you're using
protection, but there are so many new viruses every day, that your
anti-virus software might not protect you.

Now this is from a distributor so I have a dim view of downloading.
Everybody under 25 does a ton of it, but I've never done a scan of a
computer of somebody who does it to see what it reveals.


Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
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Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
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On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Caryl M Ward  wrote:

> Jessica,
>
> I don't mean to be snarky to you, but as a librarian, I get questions.
> Answering them with authority is my job. So when a professor, in good
> faith, asks me "is this site safe?",  I'm going to do my best to find out
> all I can about it.  I found nothing about MOVIE4K in my standard sources,
> aside from it being a possible clone of one with a similar name that was
> shut down last year.
>
> This is a teachable moment. Professors and students alike don't always
> understand what  content is freely available, what is coming from a paid
> resource (from their library) and what is illegally downloaded onto the
> Internet.
>
> I am glad when they ask. I was expecting to hear that accessing this site
> could result in a computer virus, and if that is the case (and I consider
> the  good people on this list would the authority to confirm),  I would
> like to share that information--quickly, before the original student shares
> the site with her classmates.
>
> Caryl
>
>
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Monday, March 10, 2014 11:21 AM
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?
>
>
>
> Actually not a bootleg site, a pirate downloading site. I don't need to be
> snarky but you should not need to explain this to a profesor. This site
> streams new release movies illegally in fact the site itself admits this
> and just says they don't think it is right people should MAKE money on
> their films.
>
>
>
> You could always tell him  you don't think he should be paid for his
> teaching. Would this professor also ask you to not bother buying books and
> just to download them?
>
>
>
> Jessica
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Caryl M Ward 
> wrote:
>
> Hello Collective Wisdom,
>
> A professor has asked me about a site that one of her students has found:
> MOVIE4K.  It looks bogus to me, but I don't want to click too far into it.
>
> If anyone has knowledge of it, can you provide me with a  brief
> explanation to share with faculty and students?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Caryl Ward
>
>
>
> Caryl Ward
>
> Head of Acquisitions
>
> Subject Librarian for Comparative Literature, LACAS and Romance Languages
>
> Binghamton University Libraries (SUNY)
>
> cw...@binghamton.edu
>
> 607 (777-4926)
>
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related insti

Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?

[Jessica Rosner]

I am sorry but if a professor can't recognize a pirate  site I honestly
don't think they know enough to teach. I know this sounds harsh but the
site stated on the front page that I looked at that they were there so
people did not have to pay for films and links to films new in theaters.

I do understand as a librarian  you need to give an answer but I have
trouble believing that telling someone who presumably have some knowledge
of rights that a site offering free downloads of movies in theaters is a
"teachable" moment. I can't honestly believe any professor would think this
was a legal site or use.

I can have sympathy for people confused by bootleg video sites but
streaming sites with movies just released in theaters does not require a
PHD to realize they are legal.

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Caryl M Ward  wrote:

>  Jessica,
>
> I don't mean to be snarky to you, but as a librarian, I get questions.
> Answering them with authority is my job. So when a professor, in good
> faith, asks me "is this site safe?",  I'm going to do my best to find out
> all I can about it.  I found nothing about MOVIE4K in my standard sources,
> aside from it being a possible clone of one with a similar name that was
> shut down last year.
>
> This is a teachable moment. Professors and students alike don't always
> understand what  content is freely available, what is coming from a paid
> resource (from their library) and what is illegally downloaded onto the
> Internet.
>
> I am glad when they ask. I was expecting to hear that accessing this site
> could result in a computer virus, and if that is the case (and I consider
> the  good people on this list would the authority to confirm),  I would
> like to share that information--quickly, before the original student shares
> the site with her classmates.
>
> Caryl
>
>
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Monday, March 10, 2014 11:21 AM
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?
>
>
>
> Actually not a bootleg site, a pirate downloading site. I don't need to be
> snarky but you should not need to explain this to a profesor. This site
> streams new release movies illegally in fact the site itself admits this
> and just says they don't think it is right people should MAKE money on
> their films.
>
>
>
> You could always tell him  you don't think he should be paid for his
> teaching. Would this professor also ask you to not bother buying books and
> just to download them?
>
>
>
> Jessica
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Caryl M Ward 
> wrote:
>
> Hello Collective Wisdom,
>
> A professor has asked me about a site that one of her students has found:
> MOVIE4K.  It looks bogus to me, but I don't want to click too far into it.
>
> If anyone has knowledge of it, can you provide me with a  brief
> explanation to share with faculty and students?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Caryl Ward
>
>
>
> Caryl Ward
>
> Head of Acquisitions
>
> Subject Librarian for Comparative Literature, LACAS and Romance Languages
>
> Binghamton University Libraries (SUNY)
>
> cw...@binghamton.edu
>
> 607 (777-4926)
>
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?

[Caryl M Ward]

Jessica,

I don't mean to be snarky to you, but as a librarian, I get questions.
Answering them with authority is my job. So when a professor, in good
faith, asks me "is this site safe?",  I'm going to do my best to find out
all I can about it.  I found nothing about MOVIE4K in my standard sources,
aside from it being a possible clone of one with a similar name that was
shut down last year.

This is a teachable moment. Professors and students alike don't always
understand what  content is freely available, what is coming from a paid
resource (from their library) and what is illegally downloaded onto the
Internet.

I am glad when they ask. I was expecting to hear that accessing this site
could result in a computer virus, and if that is the case (and I consider
the  good people on this list would the authority to confirm),  I would
like to share that information--quickly, before the original student shares
the site with her classmates.

Caryl



*From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
*Sent:* Monday, March 10, 2014 11:21 AM
*To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
*Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?



Actually not a bootleg site, a pirate downloading site. I don't need to be
snarky but you should not need to explain this to a profesor. This site
streams new release movies illegally in fact the site itself admits this
and just says they don't think it is right people should MAKE money on
their films.



You could always tell him  you don't think he should be paid for his
teaching. Would this professor also ask you to not bother buying books and
just to download them?



Jessica

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Caryl M Ward  wrote:

Hello Collective Wisdom,

A professor has asked me about a site that one of her students has found:
MOVIE4K.  It looks bogus to me, but I don't want to click too far into it.

If anyone has knowledge of it, can you provide me with a  brief explanation
to share with faculty and students?

Thanks,

Caryl Ward



Caryl Ward

Head of Acquisitions

Subject Librarian for Comparative Literature, LACAS and Romance Languages

Binghamton University Libraries (SUNY)

cw...@binghamton.edu

607 (777-4926)




VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries
and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an
effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
producers and distributors.
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?

[Jessica Rosner]

Actually not a bootleg site, a pirate downloading site. I don't need to be
snarky but you should not need to explain this to a profesor. This site
streams new release movies illegally in fact the site itself admits this
and just says they don't think it is right people should MAKE money on
their films.

You could always tell him  you don't think he should be paid for his
teaching. Would this professor also ask you to not bother buying books and
just to download them?

Jessica

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Caryl M Ward  wrote:

>  Hello Collective Wisdom,
>
> A professor has asked me about a site that one of her students has found:
> MOVIE4K.  It looks bogus to me, but I don't want to click too far into it.
>
> If anyone has knowledge of it, can you provide me with a  brief
> explanation to share with faculty and students?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Caryl Ward
>
>
>
> Caryl Ward
>
> Head of Acquisitions
>
> Subject Librarian for Comparative Literature, LACAS and Romance Languages
>
> Binghamton University Libraries (SUNY)
>
> cw...@binghamton.edu
>
> 607 (777-4926)
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?

[Dennis Doros]

Dear Caryl,

It's an illegal download site coming out of Panama.

You can always go to whois.com and fill in the website URL and find who
owns it. In this case, you can find it at
http://www.whois.com/whois/movie4kproxy.net

Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
Visit our main website!  www.milestonefilms.com
Visit our new websites!  www.mspresents.com, www.portraitofjason.com,
www.shirleyclarkefilms.com,
To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click
here
!

Support "Milestone Film" on
Facebook
 and Twitter !


See the website: Association of Moving Image
Archivists and
like them on 
Facebook
AMIA 2014 Conference, Savannah, Georgia, October 8-11,
2014


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Caryl M Ward  wrote:

> Hello Collective Wisdom,
>
> A professor has asked me about a site that one of her students has found:
> MOVIE4K.  It looks bogus to me, but I don't want to click too far into it.
>
> If anyone has knowledge of it, can you provide me with a  brief
> explanation to share with faculty and students?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Caryl Ward
>
>
>
> Caryl Ward
>
> Head of Acquisitions
>
> Subject Librarian for Comparative Literature, LACAS and Romance Languages
>
> Binghamton University Libraries (SUNY)
>
> cw...@binghamton.edu
>
> 607 (777-4926)
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

[Videolib] Bootleg site?

[Caryl M Ward]

Hello Collective Wisdom,

A professor has asked me about a site that one of her students has found:
MOVIE4K.  It looks bogus to me, but I don't want to click too far into it.

If anyone has knowledge of it, can you provide me with a  brief explanation
to share with faculty and students?

Thanks,

Caryl Ward



Caryl Ward

Head of Acquisitions

Subject Librarian for Comparative Literature, LACAS and Romance Languages

Binghamton University Libraries (SUNY)

cw...@binghamton.edu

607 (777-4926)
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.