Re: [Videolib] WB Archive
Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@lakeforest.eduwrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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My institution's business office would be most unhappy with me if I paid sales tax for any purchase, even if it were a small amount. So, eating the sales tax is not possible. Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax Original message Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:57:28 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] WB Archive To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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I think your best option is to find a different place to purchase these items. Movies Unlimited carries a good chunk them, as does Midwest Tapes and of course Amazon. I believe these companies are a little slow in getting the latest WB archive releases into their databases but they eventually do. Like Jessica said WB is not really set up for institutional orders. Some persistence with them may eventually get you the right person to talk to, but it may be too much of a hassle. It is too bad you can't absorb the taxes since in the end it would be less expensive with the generous discounts WB give for time to time. Best, Myles -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Ketchaver Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:21 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] WB Archive My institution's business office would be most unhappy with me if I paid sales tax for any purchase, even if it were a small amount. So, eating the sales tax is not possible. Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax Original message Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:57:28 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] WB Archive To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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Since we are a state institution, we are prohibited from paying sales tax. We have two options when a company can't/won't honor our tax exempt status - 1. have a staff member or friend purchase the title(s) personally and pay the tax, then donate the title(s) to our library; 2. don't buy the title(s) - which has happened on a few occasions. Gail On 10/21/2010 8:57 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@lakeforest.edu mailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edu mailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Gail B. Fedak Director, Media Resources Middle Tennessee State University Murfreesboro, TN37132 Phone: 615-898-2899 Fax: 615-898-2530 Email: gfe...@mtsu.edu mailto:gfe...@mtsu.edu Web: www.mtsu.edu/~imr http://www.mtsu.edu/%7Eimr VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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We have been having just this problem with an order. They want us to pay tax, saying that because they are producing on demand we are not tax exempt, or that they have to charge tax. The matter has gone to the university lawyers, where I imagine it will sit indefinitely. I decided to revendor my order with Movies unlimited (www.moviesunlimited.comhttp://www.moviesunlimited.com ) who charge the same price as the Warner site. The Turner Classic Movies website also has a shop with the same prices, but don't seem to carry all the titles. Jeff Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karsten, Eileen Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:46 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] WB Archive Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edumailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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Even for private universities the tax issue can be a problem. You might also consider asking your regular video vendor to place the order on your behalf, though I'm not sure whether the resulting handling fee ultimately will be cheaper than purchasing the DVDs from Amazon. We've done that on occasion with Action! Library Media, such as when a video required payment through PayPal. By the way, I've had good experiences with Action! Library Media as a vendor--very fast and reliable. James -- James M. Steffen, PhD Film and Media Studies Librarian Theater, Dance, ILA/IDS and LGBT Subject Liaison Marian K. Heilbrun Music and Media Library Emory University 540 Asbury Circle Atlanta, GA 30322-2870 Phone: (404) 727-8107 FAX: (404) 727-2257 Email: jste...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:44 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 67 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: WB Archive (Jessica Rosner) 2. Re: WB Archive (Karen Ketchaver) 3. Re: WB Archive (Jaeschke, Myles) 4. Re: WB Archive (Gail Fedak) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:57:28 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] WB Archive To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: aanlkti=ynxrqxnqv_81hv0a9f2j=vcgwwesddr7jj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@lakeforest.eduwrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:21:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Karen Ketchaver kketcha...@jcu.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] WB Archive To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 20101021102122.dto04...@mirapoint.jcu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My institution's business office would be most unhappy with me if I paid sales tax for any purchase, even if it were a small amount. So, eating the sales tax is not possible. Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax Original message Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:57:28 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] WB Archive To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine
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Hi In my experience, studio and network sites (such as Warners, HBO, etc.) are little more than dumb, automated fulfillment machines. Unlikely you're gonna get past the tax exempt issue. Re amazon and paying more...may be they charge a bit more, but you always need to factor in the staff/processing/administrative headaches and costs when thinking about such things. I'm always willing to pay more for efficient, no-fuss, no-muss fulfillment. gary handman Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edumailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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Yes, and they can enjoy the vestiges of the wonderful old building that houses it xx On 10/21/10 11:21 AM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi In my experience, studio and network sites (such as Warners, HBO, etc.) are little more than dumb, automated fulfillment machines. Unlikely you're gonna get past the tax exempt issue. Re amazon and paying more...may be they charge a bit more, but you always need to factor in the staff/processing/administrative headaches and costs when thinking about such things. I'm always willing to pay more for efficient, no-fuss, no-muss fulfillment. gary handman Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edumailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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Why do you not go through some one like Action media. Explain the situation to them, pay them with a PO and have them just bundle the tax into the price they quote you. You are not paying TAX then you are merely paying a purchaser the cost of the item. That way you do not have to wait until some one else adds a title into their database. Just send Action a fax with the items you want them to order from WB. good luck, jhs John H. Streepy Media Services Supervisor Library-Media Circulation James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian -- James Turner Rex Libris Transitus profusum est nocens! Karen Ketchaver 10/21/10 7:29 AM My institution's business office would be most unhappy with me if I paid sales tax for any purchase, even if it were a small amount. So, eating the sales tax is not possible. Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax Original message Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:57:28 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner Subject: Re: [Videolib] WB Archive To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen wrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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This is very unfortunate. The WB archive is doing what all movie buffs wish all studios would, make available a huge number of rare often important films. The only way they can do this is a bare bones operation in terms of both the DVD ( not extras DVD-R for now) and selling ONLY directly and not through wholesalers. Now some clever companies buy and resell the stuff, but they obviously have to charge something to do that which is likely to be more than the tax. Since WB is selling all titles at $20 and frequently has 25% off sales, they really can not afford to do anything but straight sales, as in no extra paperwork that might be needed for institutions. I will check with my contact there. I am sure they would like to encourage institutional sales, but again not enough to do anything extra. For the record I just checked one WB archive title on Amazon. Amazon sells it for $27. some Amazon seller has it for $22. It would clearly be cheaper to buy direct from WB but if it costs a few more bucks to get it past your purchasing people it is worth it. I will post next time they have a 25% off sale. Jessica On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Gail Fedak gfe...@mtsu.edu wrote: Since we are a state institution, we are prohibited from paying sales tax. We have two options when a company can't/won't honor our tax exempt status - 1. have a staff member or friend purchase the title(s) personally and pay the tax, then donate the title(s) to our library; 2. don't buy the title(s) - which has happened on a few occasions. Gail On 10/21/2010 8:57 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@lakeforest.eduwrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Gail B. Fedak Director, Media Resources Middle Tennessee State University Murfreesboro, TN 37132 Phone: 615-898-2899 Fax: 615-898-2530 Email: gfe...@mtsu.edu Web: www.mtsu.edu/~imr http://www.mtsu.edu/%7Eimr VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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Is it legal for them to insist on collecting sales tax from tax exempt buyers? I would think not but the firms that have been mentioned here are pretty big must be getting their financial advice before deciding policy. Since all of Music Hunter's clients are tax exempt institutions, we honor their status do not collect sales tax. Jay - Original Message - From: Jessica Rosner To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Videolib] WB Archive This is very unfortunate. The WB archive is doing what all movie buffs wish all studios would, make available a huge number of rare often important films. The only way they can do this is a bare bones operation in terms of both the DVD ( not extras DVD-R for now) and selling ONLY directly and not through wholesalers. Now some clever companies buy and resell the stuff, but they obviously have to charge something to do that which is likely to be more than the tax. Since WB is selling all titles at $20 and frequently has 25% off sales, they really can not afford to do anything but straight sales, as in no extra paperwork that might be needed for institutions. I will check with my contact there. I am sure they would like to encourage institutional sales, but again not enough to do anything extra. For the record I just checked one WB archive title on Amazon. Amazon sells it for $27. some Amazon seller has it for $22. It would clearly be cheaper to buy direct from WB but if it costs a few more bucks to get it past your purchasing people it is worth it. I will post next time they have a 25% off sale. Jessica On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Gail Fedak gfe...@mtsu.edu wrote: Since we are a state institution, we are prohibited from paying sales tax. We have two options when a company can't/won't honor our tax exempt status - 1. have a staff member or friend purchase the title(s) personally and pay the tax, then donate the title(s) to our library; 2. don't buy the title(s) - which has happened on a few occasions. Gail On 10/21/2010 8:57 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Gail B. Fedak Director, Media Resources Middle Tennessee State University Murfreesboro, TN 37132 Phone: 615-898-2899 Fax: 615-898-2530 Email: gfe...@mtsu.edu Web: www.mtsu.edu/~imr VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
Re: [Videolib] WB Archive
As far as I know it is an all automated system geared towards consumers. I doubt you can require a company to sell anything to a particular person or institution that frankly is going to require extra work. They don't sell to wholesalers and I am pretty sure they limit quantities during the 25% off sales to limit clever wholesalers. FYI what I mean is wholesalers can buy like anyone else but they don't get a discount and have to pay upfront just like consumers. I am curious do you guys buy them and resell with an added fee to cover costs? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Music Hunter musichun...@nyc.rr.comwrote: Is it legal for them to insist on collecting sales tax from tax exempt buyers? I would think not but the firms that have been mentioned here are pretty big must be getting their financial advice before deciding policy. Since all of Music Hunter's clients are tax exempt institutions, we honor their status do not collect sales tax. Jay - Original Message - *From:* Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] WB Archive This is very unfortunate. The WB archive is doing what all movie buffs wish all studios would, make available a huge number of rare often important films. The only way they can do this is a bare bones operation in terms of both the DVD ( not extras DVD-R for now) and selling ONLY directly and not through wholesalers. Now some clever companies buy and resell the stuff, but they obviously have to charge something to do that which is likely to be more than the tax. Since WB is selling all titles at $20 and frequently has 25% off sales, they really can not afford to do anything but straight sales, as in no extra paperwork that might be needed for institutions. I will check with my contact there. I am sure they would like to encourage institutional sales, but again not enough to do anything extra. For the record I just checked one WB archive title on Amazon. Amazon sells it for $27. some Amazon seller has it for $22. It would clearly be cheaper to buy direct from WB but if it costs a few more bucks to get it past your purchasing people it is worth it. I will post next time they have a 25% off sale. Jessica On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Gail Fedak gfe...@mtsu.edu wrote: Since we are a state institution, we are prohibited from paying sales tax. We have two options when a company can't/won't honor our tax exempt status - 1. have a staff member or friend purchase the title(s) personally and pay the tax, then donate the title(s) to our library; 2. don't buy the title(s) - which has happened on a few occasions. Gail On 10/21/2010 8:57 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@lakeforest.eduwrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Gail B. Fedak Director, Media Resources Middle
Re: [Videolib] WB Archive
Music Hunter purchases all product direct from the various labels or from their exclusive authorized distributors ( sometimes label owned ) as applicable to the titles required. Buying from third parties or grey market sources adds a concern to a title's authenticity and we feel that our clients are entitled to have no doubt about product rec'd from Music Hunter. Jay - Original Message - From: Jessica Rosner To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Videolib] WB Archive As far as I know it is an all automated system geared towards consumers. I doubt you can require a company to sell anything to a particular person or institution that frankly is going to require extra work. They don't sell to wholesalers and I am pretty sure they limit quantities during the 25% off sales to limit clever wholesalers. FYI what I mean is wholesalers can buy like anyone else but they don't get a discount and have to pay upfront just like consumers. I am curious do you guys buy them and resell with an added fee to cover costs? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Music Hunter musichun...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Is it legal for them to insist on collecting sales tax from tax exempt buyers? I would think not but the firms that have been mentioned here are pretty big must be getting their financial advice before deciding policy. Since all of Music Hunter's clients are tax exempt institutions, we honor their status do not collect sales tax. Jay - Original Message - From: Jessica Rosner To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Videolib] WB Archive This is very unfortunate. The WB archive is doing what all movie buffs wish all studios would, make available a huge number of rare often important films. The only way they can do this is a bare bones operation in terms of both the DVD ( not extras DVD-R for now) and selling ONLY directly and not through wholesalers. Now some clever companies buy and resell the stuff, but they obviously have to charge something to do that which is likely to be more than the tax. Since WB is selling all titles at $20 and frequently has 25% off sales, they really can not afford to do anything but straight sales, as in no extra paperwork that might be needed for institutions. I will check with my contact there. I am sure they would like to encourage institutional sales, but again not enough to do anything extra. For the record I just checked one WB archive title on Amazon. Amazon sells it for $27. some Amazon seller has it for $22. It would clearly be cheaper to buy direct from WB but if it costs a few more bucks to get it past your purchasing people it is worth it. I will post next time they have a 25% off sale. Jessica On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Gail Fedak gfe...@mtsu.edu wrote: Since we are a state institution, we are prohibited from paying sales tax. We have two options when a company can't/won't honor our tax exempt status - 1. have a staff member or friend purchase the title(s) personally and pay the tax, then donate the title(s) to our library; 2. don't buy the title(s) - which has happened on a few occasions. Gail On 10/21/2010 8:57 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries
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I am confused. WB is the direct seller, you could buy from them but only if you purchase at full price and pay upfront. It probably does not work for such a large company, but I believe some of the smaller companies focused most directly on libraries carry the titles. Obviously WB discourages wholesalers/distributors from buying from them, it is not their business model. Again for a company your size it does not seem practical to buy them at full price. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Music Hunter musichun...@nyc.rr.comwrote: Music Hunter purchases all product direct from the various labels or from their exclusive authorized distributors ( sometimes label owned ) as applicable to the titles required. Buying from third parties or grey market sources adds a concern to a title's authenticity and we feel that our clients are entitled to have no doubt about product rec'd from Music Hunter. Jay - Original Message - *From:* Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] WB Archive As far as I know it is an all automated system geared towards consumers. I doubt you can require a company to sell anything to a particular person or institution that frankly is going to require extra work. They don't sell to wholesalers and I am pretty sure they limit quantities during the 25% off sales to limit clever wholesalers. FYI what I mean is wholesalers can buy like anyone else but they don't get a discount and have to pay upfront just like consumers. I am curious do you guys buy them and resell with an added fee to cover costs? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Music Hunter musichun...@nyc.rr.comwrote: Is it legal for them to insist on collecting sales tax from tax exempt buyers? I would think not but the firms that have been mentioned here are pretty big must be getting their financial advice before deciding policy. Since all of Music Hunter's clients are tax exempt institutions, we honor their status do not collect sales tax. Jay - Original Message - *From:* Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] WB Archive This is very unfortunate. The WB archive is doing what all movie buffs wish all studios would, make available a huge number of rare often important films. The only way they can do this is a bare bones operation in terms of both the DVD ( not extras DVD-R for now) and selling ONLY directly and not through wholesalers. Now some clever companies buy and resell the stuff, but they obviously have to charge something to do that which is likely to be more than the tax. Since WB is selling all titles at $20 and frequently has 25% off sales, they really can not afford to do anything but straight sales, as in no extra paperwork that might be needed for institutions. I will check with my contact there. I am sure they would like to encourage institutional sales, but again not enough to do anything extra. For the record I just checked one WB archive title on Amazon. Amazon sells it for $27. some Amazon seller has it for $22. It would clearly be cheaper to buy direct from WB but if it costs a few more bucks to get it past your purchasing people it is worth it. I will post next time they have a 25% off sale. Jessica On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Gail Fedak gfe...@mtsu.edu wrote: Since we are a state institution, we are prohibited from paying sales tax. We have two options when a company can't/won't honor our tax exempt status - 1. have a staff member or friend purchase the title(s) personally and pay the tax, then donate the title(s) to our library; 2. don't buy the title(s) - which has happened on a few occasions. Gail On 10/21/2010 8:57 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote: Eileen, They are not really set up for institutional ordering and their prices are cheap. Also the regularly have 25% off sales. I would just eat the tax, but if you want I will check with a friend of mine there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services
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Action! Library Media Service sells the WB Archive material at the retail price. We only collect sales tax for Institutions located in California. -Cherene Cherene Birkholz Action! Library Media Service 3450 E. Spring Street, Suite 208 Long Beach, CA 90806 P 562-988-8100 / 800-886-4408 F 562-988-8122 c.birkh...@actionlibrarymedia.com www.actionlibrarymedia.com __ This email has been scanned by CIU via Messagelabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.ciunetworks.com http://www.messagelabs.com __VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] WB Archive
My guess is they have a complex legal structure and WB home video is a separate legal entity and has no physical presence in New York. I think they probably do not charge tax anywhere outside of CA, but that you need to check the website ordering system as opposed to asking strange as that may sound. I have asked my friend there to look into making it more friendly to institutional orders, but the bottom line is they are not going to do anything that requires any paperwork on their end. Since their titles are not carried by the major distributors and since they are no frills DVD-R ( but very nicely done) they fly under the radar of many libraries. I urge folks to check them out as it is an extraordinary collection at very cheap prices and the more they sell, the more rare films they can put out. Jessica On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Jana Atkins jatki...@uco.edu wrote: This suggests possibly that WB doesn’t have any physical quarters in New York (which is difficult to believe) or Connecticut but that they do have some sort of presence in Illinois. As far as I know, companies are not required to collect sales tax on internet sales if they don’t have a bricks-and-mortar presence of any sort in the state where the buyer resides (or is having the item shipped to?) although a lot of companies collect it regardless. Of the ones that don’t, a non-tax exempt buyer is responsible for paying the sales tax directly to their local tax entity, although most do not do so. Jana Atkins, B.M., M.L.S. Performing Arts/Multimedia Librarian University of Central Oklahoma Max Chambers Library 100 N. University Edmond, OK 73034 405-974-2949 *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Kerbel, Michael *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:46 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] WB Archive We’ve ordered many DVDs from WB and have not paid tax. And their prices are usually better than Amazon’s, and they ship extremely promptly. *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:55 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] WB Archive OK after all this I am REALLY confused. I went on the WB archive web site went through the motions of ordering and it did not charge any sales tax. I live in NYC, so hard to imagine they would charge Illinois. Did you actually attempt an order and get charged tax ? Anyone else order from them directly outside of CA and get charged tax? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@lakeforest.edu wrote: Dear CW, Has anybody been able to order DVDs from the Warner Archive without paying tax? I have been trying to order a DVD from them for months, but the order form does not allow me to tell them I am tax exempt. I sent them an e-mail to ask them how I could order from them and include a tax exempt number. They responded saying they needed more information which I gave them. When I did not hear back, I e-mailed them again and they did not answer this e-mail. Now, I have a request for a second title which is in their archive. I see that Amazon is selling the WB archive titles through their site, but they charge more for them. I will be greatly appreciated any help with this problem. Sincerely, Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. ***Bronze+Blue=Green*** The University of Central Oklahoma is Bronze, Blue, and Green! Please print this e-mail only if absolutely necessary! ***CONFIDENTIALITY*** -This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information. Any unauthorized disclosure or use of this information is prohibited. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively