Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[Tony Ly]

>> 3.  Ca'c ba'c vie^'t cho ai ddo.c?  Ma` topic gi`
>> dde^? thu hu't ngu+o+`i
>> ddo.c.
>
> Ba'c co' the^? ti`m ddo.c ca'i mail xin y' kie^'n ve^`
> to^? chu+'c e-zine\. DDo^'i tu+o+.ng ddo^.c gia? la`
> ta^'t ca? nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i quan ta^m to+'i OSS, tu+`
> user to+'i developer. Va` ddo'ng go'p no^.i dung cho
> no' cu~ng la` ta^'t ca? mo.i ngu+o+`i: tu+` user to+'i
> developer.
>

Ddo.c ro^`i... chu+a thu hu't cho la('m (ba?n tha^n tui tho^i) :) but it's
a good start.

>>Va` ca'c bac' co' la`m la^u da`i ddu+o+.c
>> kho^ng?  Ba?n tha^n tui
>> khi ddo.c nhu+~ng to+` ba'o Windows/Linux, tui
>> kho^ng chu' tro.ng nhie^`u
>> ve^` nhu+~ng ba`i technical ma` la` nhu+~ng va^'n
>> dde^` xoay quanh no'
>> (thu+o+ng ma.i, u+'ng du.ng, hu+o+'ng ddi...).
>
> DDo^'i tu+o+.ng ddo^.c gia? co' nhie^`u loa.i, va`
> cu~ng co' nhie^`u mo^'i quan ta^m kha'c nhau\. Hy
> vo.ng e-zine co' the^? dda'p u+'ng ddu+o+.c (ha^`u
> he^'t) nhu ca^`u cu?a mo.i ngu+o+`i.
>

Ddo^`ng y' nhu+ng ddu+`ng la`m da^u tra(m ho. nhe'... One step at a
time...  Tu+` tu+` no' se~ hay tho^i.

>> Technical stuff thi` dda~
>> co' manual hoa(.c nhu+~ng ta`i lie^.u kha'c du` la`
>> ho+i kho^ khan mo^.t
>> ti'.  Tui kho^ng the^? na`o ddo+.i dde^'n mo^.t
>> tha'ng dde^? ddo.c mo^.t
>> ba`i cu?a ca'c ba'c vi` co' the^/ dda~ out-of-date
>> ro^`i :)
>
> Ca'i na`y thi` em kho^ng ddo^`ng ti`nh vo+'i ba'c:
> - Technical stuff hay, vie^'t cha^'t lu+o+.ng kho^ng
> bao gio+` kho^ khan

Y' tui no'i la` ne^'u ca^`n nhu+~ng ta`i lie^.u technical ca^.p nha^.t
thi` tui mo` va`o ma^'y ca'i technical manual cho+' kho^ng the^? cho+`
ddo+.i ai di.ch hoa(.c vie^'t cho vi` life is too short :)  Di~ nhie^n
nhu+~ng ba`i technical vie^'t la.i thi` no' de^? hie^?u ho+n manual
nhie^`u vi` co' kinh nghie^.m cu?a ta'c gi?a trong ddo' ma`.

> - Ta`i lie^.u co' the^? cu~ vo+'i ngu+o+`i na`y nhu+ng
> va^~n co`n mo+'i vo+'i ngu+o+`i kha'c --> ne^n va^~n
> co`n gia' tri. Loa.i ta`i lie^.u pho^? bie^'n kie^'n
> thu+'c cha(?ng ha.n co`n gia' tri. to+'i ha`ng na(m
> sau khi no' ra ddo+`i\.
>

Ditto... Movie ma` chu+a coi thi` di~ nhie^n la` movie mo+'i ro^`i :)

>> P.S.  Ma` thu+.c te^' ho+n he^'t la` ma^'y ba'c
>> vie^'t ba`i cho ma^'y to+`
>> ba'o Windows la` hay nha^'t ta.i vi` ddo' la` no+i
>> co' nhie^`u ddo^.c gia?
>> ho+n ai he^'t :)
>
> he^ he^ ddang ba`n Linux ma` la.i sang Windows ho+i
> off-topic ro^`i\.
>

Ba'c hie^?u la^`m ro^`i, dda^u co' Off-topic dda^u.  Tui no'i vie^'t ba`i
Linux cho Windows magazine ma`.  Ddo' la` mo^.t ca'ch qua?ng ca'o nhanh
nha^'t.  Dda so^' Windows magazine o+? ha?i ngoa.i dde^`u co' ke`m theo
mo^.t va`i ba`i ve^` Linux dde^? cho Windows users hie^?u ro~ nhu+~ng
u+'ng du.ng cu?a no'.  Nhu+ va^.y dde^? ho. hie^?u ra(`ng co' the^' gio+'i
thu+' 2 ngoa`i Windows.



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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[Tony Ly]

Ho^?m nay ca'c ba'c ba`n ta'n so^i no^~i qua' cho ne^n tui cu~ng ngu+'a
mie^.ng dda^y.

1.  Ca'c ba'c muo^'n la`m e-Zine thi` ca'c ba'c dda.i die^.n cho ai?
Vietlug? VietLUG theo tui hie^?u la` mo^.t to^? chu+'c lo~ng le~o ho^?n
ta.p, do Vie^.t Kie^`u ha?i ngoa.i tha`nh la^.p, va` ddu+o+.c su+. ddo'ng
go'p cu?a dda so^' mo.i ngu+o+`i Vie^.t ddam me^ Linux tre^n the^' gio+'i
u?ng ho^., kho^ng co' co+ so+? chi'nh thu+'c trong nu+o+'c (hi`nh nhu+
dda^y la` lo+`i cu?a ai ddo' trong tra^.n bu't chie^'n na(m ro^`i).  Ca'c
ba'c la`m ne^'u co' chuye^.n gi` kho^ng ddu'ng thi` tui thu+a kie^.n ai
dda^y?  Thu+a ba'c chu? nhie^.m hay la` thu+a VietLUG? :)

2.  Cu~ng va^'n dde^` thu+a kie^.n, ca'c ba'c se~ gia?i quye^'t nhu+ the^'
na`o ve^` va^'n dde^` ba?n quye^`n?  Y' tui no'i la` nhu+~ng ba`i di.ch
hay la` nhu+~ng ba`i sao che'p la.i.  (Va^'n dde^` na`y co' le~ se~
du+o+.c quan ta^m ho+n khi mi`nh la`m cho thu+o+ng ma.i)

3.  Ca'c ba'c vie^'t cho ai ddo.c?  Ma` topic gi` dde^? thu hu't ngu+o+`i
ddo.c.  Va` ca'c bac' co' la`m la^u da`i ddu+o+.c kho^ng?  Ba?n tha^n tui
khi ddo.c nhu+~ng to+` ba'o Windows/Linux, tui kho^ng chu' tro.ng nhie^`u
ve^` nhu+~ng ba`i technical ma` la` nhu+~ng va^'n dde^` xoay quanh no'
(thu+o+ng ma.i, u+'ng du.ng, hu+o+'ng ddi...).  Technical stuff thi` dda~
co' manual hoa(.c nhu+~ng ta`i lie^.u kha'c du` la` ho+i kho^ khan mo^.t
ti'.  Tui kho^ng the^? na`o ddo+.i dde^'n mo^.t tha'ng dde^? ddo.c mo^.t
ba`i cu?a ca'c ba'c vi` co' the^/ dda~ out-of-date ro^`i :)  Dda so^'
nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i muo^'n ho.c ho?i va` tie^'n bo^. nhanh nhu+ ca'c ba'c
thi` cu~ng dda~ co' mo^.t tri`nh ddo^. Anh ngu+~ kha' ro^`i.  Ne^'u ca'c
ba'c va^~n co`n le^. thuo^.c va`o Vie^.t ngu+~ dde^? ho.c ho?i thi` co'
pha?i cha^.m ho+n nhu+~ng ngu+o+i` kha'c ko?).

4.  Khi dda~ la`m ba'o thi` ne^n la`m ba'o gia^'y vi` ddo.c no' dda~ ma('t
ho+n (ddo.c ba ca'i e-Zine thi` cu+.c cha(?ng dda~ tho^i).  Ma` muo^'n
la`m ba'o gia^'y thi` phai? ca^`n tie^`n. Vi` va^.y mi`nh pha?i ca^`n la`m
thu+o+ng ma~i.  Va` ddie^`u ddo' va^~n ddu'ng vo+'i quy lua^.t cua? Open
Source.  Tie^`n ba.c dde^? la`m kho^ng tha`nh va^'n dde^` ne^'u mi`nh co '
ddo^.c gi?a.

To'm la.i vie^.c la`m mo^.t to+` ba'o Linux la` mo^.t vie^.c dda'ng la`m. 
Ddu'ng tho+`i ddie^?m hay chu+a thi` tui nghi~la` chu+a, nha^'t la` ne^'u
la`m commercial.  Ca'c ba'c co' the^? thu+? vo+'i free e-zine tru+o+'c xem
sao?  Ddie^`u quan tro.ng ho+n he^'t la` ca'c ba'c pha?i ho+.p thu+'c hoa'
VietLUG dde^? no' tro+? tha`nh mo^.t organization dda`ng hoa`ng (another
topic to discuss) va` phai? co' mo^.t ban to^? chu+'c ddu+o+.c ta^'t ca?
members ba^`u le^n.  Nhu+ the^' khi ba^'t cu+' ai ho?i dde^'n VietLUG, ho.
bie^'t ti`m dde^'n ngu+o+`i dda.i die^.n dde^? ba`n tha?o.  Ddie^`u na`y
tha^'y ra^'t ro~ ra`ng trong tra^.n bu't chie^'n giu+~a Vietkey va`
VietLUG na(m ro^`i.  Cu~ng tu+o+ng to+. va^'n dde^` tre^n, hie^.n nay
ne^'u tui lo+~ la`m mo^.t chuye^.n gi` ba^.y lie^n quan dde^'n VietLUG,
ca'c ba'c co' chi.u va. la^y ko? (I hope not :))  Khi co' co+ so+? ro^`i
thi` ca'c bac' co' muo^'n la`m ba'o la`m gi` cu~ng danh cha'nh ngo^n
thua^.n ho+n.  Co`n ne^'u kho^ng thi` cu+' mo+? mo^.t to+` ba'o Linux
thu+o+ng ma.i rie^ng, ro^`i tra? tie^`n nhua^.n bu't cho ma^'y bac' na`o
thi'ch vie^'t ba`i.

Cheers...

P.S.  Ma` thu+.c te^' ho+n he^'t la` ma^'y ba'c vie^'t ba`i cho ma^'y to+`
ba'o Windows la` hay nha^'t ta.i vi` ddo' la` no+i co' nhie^`u ddo^.c gia?
ho+n ai he^'t :)



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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

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--- Tony Ly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
> 1.  Ca'c ba'c muo^'n la`m e-Zine thi` ca'c ba'c
> dda.i die^.n cho ai?
> Vietlug? VietLUG theo tui hie^?u la` mo^.t to^?
> chu+'c lo~ng le~o ho^?n
> ta.p, do Vie^.t Kie^`u ha?i ngoa.i tha`nh la^.p, va`
> ddu+o+.c su+. ddo'ng
> go'p cu?a dda so^' mo.i ngu+o+`i Vie^.t ddam me^
> Linux tre^n the^' gio+'i
> u?ng ho^., kho^ng co' co+ so+? chi'nh thu+'c trong
> nu+o+'c (hi`nh nhu+
> dda^y la` lo+`i cu?a ai ddo' trong tra^.n bu't
> chie^'n na(m ro^`i).  Ca'c
> ba'c la`m ne^'u co' chuye^.n gi` kho^ng ddu'ng thi`
> tui thu+a kie^.n ai
> dda^y?  Thu+a ba'c chu? nhie^.m hay la` thu+a
> VietLUG? :)

Ba'c no'i ra^'t ddu'ng. Va^'n dde^` to^? chu+'c
VietLUG mo^.t ca'ch quy cu? va` co' ti'nh pha'p ly'
la` mo^.t vie^.c tru+o+'c sau cu~ng pha?i ti'nh
dde^'n. Ba'c na`o thi'ch thi` mo+? topic ba`n rie^ng
ddi\. Tuy nhie^n kho^ng ca^`n thie^'t pha?i cho+`
to+'i lu'c ddo' mo+'i co' the^? la`m e-zine\. Vie^.c
gi` la`m tru+o+'c ddu+o+.c thi` ne^n la`m tru+o+'c.
E-zine do kho^ng co' phie^n ba?n ba'o gia^'y ne^n
cu~ng kho^ng ca^`n pha?i xin phe'p ai ca?.

> 2.  Cu~ng va^'n dde^` thu+a kie^.n, ca'c ba'c se~
> gia?i quye^'t nhu+ the^'
> na`o ve^` va^'n dde^` ba?n quye^`n?  Y' tui no'i la`
> nhu+~ng ba`i di.ch
> hay la` nhu+~ng ba`i sao che'p la.i.  (Va^'n dde^`
> na`y co' le~ se~
> du+o+.c quan ta^m ho+n khi mi`nh la`m cho thu+o+ng
> ma.i)

Ca'i na`y ba'c cu~ng no'i ra^'t ddu'ng. Ban bie^n
ta^.p chi? co' tra'ch nhie^.m ve^` no^.i dung, cha^'t
lu+o+.ng ba`i vo+? chu+' kho^ng the^? theo do~i
ddu+o+.c va^'n dde^` ba?n quye^`n (toa`n nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i hoa.t ddo^.ng ti`nh nguye^.n ma`). DDe^`
gia?i quye^'t va^'n dde^` na`y, em xin dde^` xua^'t
gia?i pha'p: Ta'c gia? ba`i vie^'t gu+?i ba`i cho ba'o
co' nghi~a la` dda~ co' cam ke^'t chi.u tra'ch nhie^.m
hoa`n toa`n ve^` ti'nh ho+.p pha'p cu?a ba?n quye^`n
cu?a ba`i ddo' ---> ca'i na`y gio^'ng nhu+ gia?i pha'p
Linux dda~ a'p du.ng cho kernel 2.6 sau khi xa?y ra
su+. kie^.n SCO tho^i: Ke^? tu+` 5/2004, ca'c ta'c
gia? khi gu+?i patch cho kernel pha?i sign (ba(`ng
chu+~ ky' ddie^.n tu+?) dde^? chu+'ng nha^.n mi`nh la`
ta'c gia?, va` pha?i chi.u tra'ch nhie^.m pha'p ly'
cho pha^`n code/docs mi`nh ddo'ng go'p.

Quy ddi.nh na`y ca^`n ddu+o+.c bo^? sung va`o pha^`n
to^? chu+'c xa^y du+.ng va` ddo'ng go'p cho e-zine. 

> 3.  Ca'c ba'c vie^'t cho ai ddo.c?  Ma` topic gi`
> dde^? thu hu't ngu+o+`i
> ddo.c.  

Ba'c co' the^? ti`m ddo.c ca'i mail xin y' kie^'n ve^`
to^? chu+'c e-zine\. DDo^'i tu+o+.ng ddo^.c gia? la`
ta^'t ca? nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i quan ta^m to+'i OSS, tu+`
user to+'i developer. Va` ddo'ng go'p no^.i dung cho
no' cu~ng la` ta^'t ca? mo.i ngu+o+`i: tu+` user to+'i
developer.

>Va` ca'c bac' co' la`m la^u da`i ddu+o+.c
> kho^ng?  Ba?n tha^n tui
> khi ddo.c nhu+~ng to+` ba'o Windows/Linux, tui
> kho^ng chu' tro.ng nhie^`u
> ve^` nhu+~ng ba`i technical ma` la` nhu+~ng va^'n
> dde^` xoay quanh no'
> (thu+o+ng ma.i, u+'ng du.ng, hu+o+'ng ddi...). 

DDo^'i tu+o+.ng ddo^.c gia? co' nhie^`u loa.i, va`
cu~ng co' nhie^`u mo^'i quan ta^m kha'c nhau\. Hy
vo.ng e-zine co' the^? dda'p u+'ng ddu+o+.c (ha^`u
he^'t) nhu ca^`u cu?a mo.i ngu+o+`i.

> Technical stuff thi` dda~
> co' manual hoa(.c nhu+~ng ta`i lie^.u kha'c du` la`
> ho+i kho^ khan mo^.t
> ti'.  Tui kho^ng the^? na`o ddo+.i dde^'n mo^.t
> tha'ng dde^? ddo.c mo^.t
> ba`i cu?a ca'c ba'c vi` co' the^/ dda~ out-of-date
> ro^`i :)  

Ca'i na`y thi` em kho^ng ddo^`ng ti`nh vo+'i ba'c:
- Technical stuff hay, vie^'t cha^'t lu+o+.ng kho^ng
bao gio+` kho^ khan
- Ta`i lie^.u co' the^? cu~ vo+'i ngu+o+`i na`y nhu+ng
va^~n co`n mo+'i vo+'i ngu+o+`i kha'c --> ne^n va^~n
co`n gia' tri. Loa.i ta`i lie^.u pho^? bie^'n kie^'n
thu+'c cha(?ng ha.n co`n gia' tri. to+'i ha`ng na(m
sau khi no' ra ddo+`i\.

> Dda so^'
> nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i muo^'n ho.c ho?i va` tie^'n bo^.
> nhanh nhu+ ca'c ba'c
> thi` cu~ng dda~ co' mo^.t tri`nh ddo^. Anh ngu+~
> kha' ro^`i.  Ne^'u ca'c
> ba'c va^~n co`n le^. thuo^.c va`o Vie^.t ngu+~ dde^?
> ho.c ho?i thi` co'
> pha?i cha^.m ho+n nhu+~ng ngu+o+i` kha'c ko?).
> 

- Again, ddo^.c gia? co' nhie^`u loa.i, kho^ng pha?i
ai cu~ng la` chuye^n gia, va` kho^ng pha?i ai cu~ng
bie^'t tie^'ng Anh. Ke^? ca? ba'c co' la` chuye^n gia,
thi` co' the^? va^~n la` newbie trong nhu+~ng li~nh
vu+.c ngoa`i pha.m vi ba'c nghie^n cu+'u\ va` quan
ta^m --> ne^n ba'c va^~n co' the^? mo+? ro^.ng kie^'n
thu+'c va` ti`m ddu+o+.c nhu+~ng ddie^`u bo^? i'ch
tu+` ca'c ba`i kha'c.

> 4.  Khi dda~ la`m ba'o thi` ne^n la`m ba'o gia^'y
> vi` ddo.c no' dda~ ma('t
> ho+n (ddo.c ba ca'i e-Zine thi` cu+.c cha(?ng dda~
> tho^i).  Ma` muo^'n
> la`m ba'o gia^'y thi` phai? ca^`n tie^`n. Vi` va^.y
> mi`nh pha?i ca^`n la`m
> thu+o+ng ma~i.  

DDie^`u na`y la` mong muo^'n cu?a mo.i ngu+o+`i,
nhu+ng nhu+ nhie^`u pha^n ti'ch tre^n list, hie^.n nay
ddie^`u kie^.n dde^? thu+.c hie^.n no' chu+a co', ne^n
to^'t nha^'t ta cu+' ba('t tay va`o la`m nhu+~ng gi`
hie^.n co' the^? la`m ddu+o+.c tru+o+'c dda~.

> VietLUG dde^? no' tro+? tha`nh mo^.t organizatio

Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[Viet Hung]

Tony Ly wrote:

>P.S.  Ma` thu+.c te^' ho+n he^'t la` ma^'y ba'c
vie^'t ba`i cho ma^'y to+`
>ba'o Windows la` hay nha^'t ta.i vi` ddo' la` no+i
co' nhie^`u ddo^.c gia?
>ho+n ai he^'t :)
>  
>

Cu. Ly' xem ra co' ly'.



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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:11:44 -0400 (EDT), Tony Ly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ho^?m nay ca'c ba'c ba`n ta'n so^i no^~i qua' cho ne^n tui cu~ng ngu+'a
> mie^.ng dda^y.
> 
> 1.  Ca'c ba'c muo^'n la`m e-Zine thi` ca'c ba'c dda.i die^.n cho ai?
> Vietlug? VietLUG theo tui hie^?u la` mo^.t to^? chu+'c lo~ng le~o ho^?n
> ta.p, do Vie^.t Kie^`u ha?i ngoa.i tha`nh la^.p, va` ddu+o+.c su+. ddo'ng
> go'p cu?a dda so^' mo.i ngu+o+`i Vie^.t ddam me^ Linux tre^n the^' gio+'i
> u?ng ho^., kho^ng co' co+ so+? chi'nh thu+'c trong nu+o+'c (hi`nh nhu+
> dda^y la` lo+`i cu?a ai ddo' trong tra^.n bu't chie^'n na(m ro^`i).  Ca'c
> ba'c la`m ne^'u co' chuye^.n gi` kho^ng ddu'ng thi` tui thu+a kie^.n ai
> dda^y?  Thu+a ba'c chu? nhie^.m hay la` thu+a VietLUG? :)
> 
> 2.  Cu~ng va^'n dde^` thu+a kie^.n, ca'c ba'c se~ gia?i quye^'t nhu+ the^'
> na`o ve^` va^'n dde^` ba?n quye^`n?  Y' tui no'i la` nhu+~ng ba`i di.ch
> hay la` nhu+~ng ba`i sao che'p la.i.  (Va^'n dde^` na`y co' le~ se~
> du+o+.c quan ta^m ho+n khi mi`nh la`m cho thu+o+ng ma.i)
> 
> 3.  Ca'c ba'c vie^'t cho ai ddo.c?  Ma` topic gi` dde^? thu hu't ngu+o+`i
> ddo.c.  Va` ca'c bac' co' la`m la^u da`i ddu+o+.c kho^ng?  Ba?n tha^n tui
> khi ddo.c nhu+~ng to+` ba'o Windows/Linux, tui kho^ng chu' tro.ng nhie^`u
> ve^` nhu+~ng ba`i technical ma` la` nhu+~ng va^'n dde^` xoay quanh no'
> (thu+o+ng ma.i, u+'ng du.ng, hu+o+'ng ddi...).  Technical stuff thi` dda~
> co' manual hoa(.c nhu+~ng ta`i lie^.u kha'c du` la` ho+i kho^ khan mo^.t
> ti'.  Tui kho^ng the^? na`o ddo+.i dde^'n mo^.t tha'ng dde^? ddo.c mo^.t
> ba`i cu?a ca'c ba'c vi` co' the^/ dda~ out-of-date ro^`i :)  Dda so^'
> nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i muo^'n ho.c ho?i va` tie^'n bo^. nhanh nhu+ ca'c ba'c
> thi` cu~ng dda~ co' mo^.t tri`nh ddo^. Anh ngu+~ kha' ro^`i.  Ne^'u ca'c
> ba'c va^~n co`n le^. thuo^.c va`o Vie^.t ngu+~ dde^? ho.c ho?i thi` co'
> pha?i cha^.m ho+n nhu+~ng ngu+o+i` kha'c ko?).
> 
> 4.  Khi dda~ la`m ba'o thi` ne^n la`m ba'o gia^'y vi` ddo.c no' dda~ ma('t
> ho+n (ddo.c ba ca'i e-Zine thi` cu+.c cha(?ng dda~ tho^i).  Ma` muo^'n
> la`m ba'o gia^'y thi` phai? ca^`n tie^`n. Vi` va^.y mi`nh pha?i ca^`n la`m
> thu+o+ng ma~i.  Va` ddie^`u ddo' va^~n ddu'ng vo+'i quy lua^.t cua? Open
> Source.  Tie^`n ba.c dde^? la`m kho^ng tha`nh va^'n dde^` ne^'u mi`nh co '
> ddo^.c gi?a.
> 
> To'm la.i vie^.c la`m mo^.t to+` ba'o Linux la` mo^.t vie^.c dda'ng la`m.
> Ddu'ng tho+`i ddie^?m hay chu+a thi` tui nghi~la` chu+a, nha^'t la` ne^'u
> la`m commercial.  Ca'c ba'c co' the^? thu+? vo+'i free e-zine tru+o+'c xem
> sao?  Ddie^`u quan tro.ng ho+n he^'t la` ca'c ba'c pha?i ho+.p thu+'c hoa'
> VietLUG dde^? no' tro+? tha`nh mo^.t organization dda`ng hoa`ng (another
> topic to discuss) va` phai? co' mo^.t ban to^? chu+'c ddu+o+.c ta^'t ca?
> members ba^`u le^n.  Nhu+ the^' khi ba^'t cu+' ai ho?i dde^'n VietLUG, ho.
> bie^'t ti`m dde^'n ngu+o+`i dda.i die^.n dde^? ba`n tha?o.  Ddie^`u na`y
> tha^'y ra^'t ro~ ra`ng trong tra^.n bu't chie^'n giu+~a Vietkey va`
> VietLUG na(m ro^`i.  Cu~ng tu+o+ng to+. va^'n dde^` tre^n, hie^.n nay
> ne^'u tui lo+~ la`m mo^.t chuye^.n gi` ba^.y lie^n quan dde^'n VietLUG,
> ca'c ba'c co' chi.u va. la^y ko? (I hope not :))  Khi co' co+ so+? ro^`i
> thi` ca'c bac' co' muo^'n la`m ba'o la`m gi` cu~ng danh cha'nh ngo^n
> thua^.n ho+n.  Co`n ne^'u kho^ng thi` cu+' mo+? mo^.t to+` ba'o Linux
> thu+o+ng ma.i rie^ng, ro^`i tra? tie^`n nhua^.n bu't cho ma^'y bac' na`o
> thi'ch vie^'t ba`i.
> 
> Cheers...
> 
> P.S.  Ma` thu+.c te^' ho+n he^'t la` ma^'y ba'c vie^'t ba`i cho ma^'y to+`
> ba'o Windows la` hay nha^'t ta.i vi` ddo' la` no+i co' nhie^`u ddo^.c gia?
> ho+n ai he^'t :)

Cu. Ly' gio+` mo+'i chi.u ra ddi`nh dde^? ho.p  ;) cu. ra cha^.m la`
to^.i tha(`ng ... Mo~ ;))


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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[chairuou]

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 08:58:59 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 October 2004 04:38 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Su+?a xong
> (co' su+?a hay kho^ng, kho^ng bie^'t ddu+o+.c) ho. co`n ye^u ca^`u mi`nh ky'
> va`o bie^n ba?n nghie^.m thu, xa'c nha^.n ddu+o+`ng truye^`n to^'t. Hehe,
> cu~ng ma'nh la('m a`!

chu' staff ddo' pha?i co' ca'i ddo' tri`nh manager, lo+~ chu' tro^'n
manday ddi cafe vo+'i em u't thi` sao hehe
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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[maikhai04]

On Tuesday 05 October 2004 04:38 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Váy thà phái lÃm mát bÃi: 5 ngÃy vát lán vái KMail. Dáng nhÆ là 
> kinh
> nghiám thác tá cáa ngÆái sá dáng Linux :)

Ba`i na`y khi vie^'t xong thi` bu.i dda^'t mu` mi.t, kho^ng ai ddo.c hie^?u 
ca?. Chu+a no'i Kmail, no^.i ca'i xvnkb cu?a Mr Chuo^'i cu~ng la`m cho la^'m 
lem ro^`i (trong Knoppix cha(?ng ha.n, no' nha^'t ddi.nh ddo`i na.p tu+` 
terminal cu`ng vo+'i Kmail thi` mo+'i OK).

Nha^n tie^.n tra? lo+`i luo^n ve^` FPTadsl. Sau khi gu+?i mo^.t ca'i meo 
khie^'u na.i, ho. cho nha^n vie^n dde^'n nha` ngay trong nga`y (ghi 1 
ddie^?m). La. qua', hi`nh nhu+ line no' so+. ngu+o+`i nha`, ne^n no' vo.t 
le^n 27KB. Bo'p chuo^.t la` trang web nha?y ra nhanh nhu+ cho+'p. Su+?a xong 
(co' su+?a hay kho^ng, kho^ng bie^'t ddu+o+.c) ho. co`n ye^u ca^`u mi`nh ky' 
va`o bie^n ba?n nghie^.m thu, xa'c nha^.n ddu+o+`ng truye^`n to^'t. Hehe, 
cu~ng ma'nh la('m a`!

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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[0xdeface]

Hi,

[OT]
Em kho^ng hie^?u sao la.i da^~n dde^'n tranh lua^.n
ve^` du`ng font gi` cho Vizine ha? ca'c ba'c? DDa^y
la` ta.p chi', thi` ddu+o+ng nhie^n la` du`ng font
Unicode chu+' co`n gi` nu+~a\? Va`i na(m tru+o+'c co'
the^? co`n kho' kha(n ve^` vie^.c ca`i dda(.t, ve^`
pha^`n me^`m ho^~ tro+., chu+' gio+` thi` Unicode
tha`nh chua^?n pho^? bie^'n ro^`i ma`.

Ba'c na`o co^' ma` va^~n kho^ng ca`i ddu+o+.c font,
chuye^?n sang du`ng ta.m Windows nhe' ;-)
[/OT]

Ca'c ba'c cu+' ddo'ng go'p y' kie^'n tie^'p ddi, em
se~ thu tha^.p va` to^?ng ho+.p la.i\.

Ba'c na`o o+? Sa`i Go`n va` Ha` No^.i nha('n (offline)
ca'c  tha`nh vie^n ga.o co^.i, cu`ng vo+'i 2 o^ng chu?
ti.ch LUG va`o dda^y ba`n chuye^.n ddu+o+.c kho^ng?

Ba'c Larry, ba'c la`m mo^.t ca'i poll tre^n site ddi
(o+? luo^n tapchi.vnlinux.org cha(?ng ha.n ;-) - dde^?
xem so^' ngu+o+`i sa(~n sa`ng ddo'ng go'p cho Vizine
la` bao nhie^u\?

No^.i dung the^' na`y cha(?ng ha.n: 
---
Vietlug ddang co' du+. ddi.nh cho ra ma(.t ddi.nh ky`
mo^.t ta.p chi' ddie^.n tu+? ve^` Linux va` ma~
nguo^`n mo+? vo+'i mu.c tie^u trao ddo^?i va` pho^?
bie^'n tho^ng tin, nha(`m pho^? bie^'n ho+n nu+~a
Linux va` ma~ nguo^`n mo+? to+'i co^.ng ddo^`ng. Quan
ddie^?m cu?a ba.n ra sao\?

1. To^i u?ng ho^. du+. ddi.nh na`y
2. To^i se~ tru+.c tie^'p tham gia to^? chu+'c va`
xa^y du+.ng no^.i dung ta.p chi'
3. Kho^ng co' y' kie^'n
---

DDu+o+.c kho^ng ca'c ba'c ;-)

Na`o anh em ta 
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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[maikhai04]

On Wednesday 06 October 2004 02:33 am, pclouds wrote:
> Ne^'u la` web thi` cu+' unicode ma` phang. Ca^`n thi` tapchi.vnlinux.org
> cho phe'p cho.n charset ;)

Ro~ ra`ng dda~ co' 2 y' kie^'n kha'c nhau ddu+o+.c post le^n ML nha! Tui thi` 
muo^'n mo^.t to+` ba'o tie^'ng Vie^.t ba(`ng chu+~ Vie^.t. Ne^n nho+' chu+~ 
Vie^.t chi? co' MO^.T: kie^?u ma` ta ta.m go.i hie^.n nay la`Unicode. (Co`n 
be^n Windows, thi` co' Vie^.t ngu+~ Vni, Vie^.t ngu+~ ABC, Vie^.t ngu+~ TCVN 
vv) Co`n Viqr ta hay du`ng dda^y, tuy ra^'t tie^.n cho ta, nhu+ng chi? la` 
gia?i pha'p ti`nh the^', no' kho^ng pha?i chu+~ Vie^.t. Cu+' ba?o mo^.t em 
be' VN ta'm chi'n tuo^?i vie^'t mo^.t ca^u, ba^'t cu+' xa^'u dde.p the^' 
na`o, va(n pha.m sai ddu'ng ra sao, nhu+ng ddo' chi'nh la chu+~ Vie^.t. Ne^'u 
em be' ddo' ma` vie^'t theo Viqr, thi` vo^ lo+'p a('t bi. co^ gia'o ke'o tai!

Va^'n dde^` co`n la.i la`: La`m sao cho chu+~ Vie^.t Unicode gu+?i qua ma.ng 
ai down xuo^'ng cu~ng ddo.c ddu+o+.c. Tre^n ML thi` co' te^? dda(.t ra le^. 
la`ng, tu+'c la` le^. Viqr, kie^?u nhu+ tha^`y So+n mo+'i ro^`i to^'ng va(n 
ba?n ddi ba(`ng Unicode (hay ba(`ng gi` gi` dda^'y) la` vi pha.m no^.i quy, 
ca'i ddo' ddu+o+.c ro^`i. 
Nhu+ng ta la`m ba'o ddie^.n tu+? tie^'ng Vie^.t, kho^ng the^? na.i co+' na`y 
co+' no. ma` la`m cho CHUA^?N TIE^'NG VIE^.T bi. sai ddi  ddu+o+.c. Cu+' gia? 
du. nhu+ chua^?n tie^'ng Vie^.t xu+a nay la` do Bill Gates giu+~ ba?n 
quye^`n, ma` nay ta bie^?u thi. no' ba(`ng Viqr, thi` nha^'t ddi.nh ta bi. 
Bill Gates lo^i ra toa` tu+` la^u ro^`i!

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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[pclouds]

 --- 0xdeface <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Mo^.t trong nhu+~ng ddie^`u lo nga.i nha^'t la` i't
> ba`i vo+?. Thu+.c ra vo+'i no^.i dung la` pho^? bie^'n
> kinh nghie^.m, trao ddo^`i tho^ng tin, e-zine thi`
> informal thi` vie^'t ba`i dda^u co' kho'. Cha(?ng ha.n
> cu. maikhai sau 1 tua^`n va^.t va~ vo+'i YOper, muo^'n
> nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kha'c tra'nh ve^'t xe ddo^? cu?a cu.,
> co' the^? la`m mo^.t qua? "YOper va` 7 nga`y ma^'t
> ngu?". Kinh nghie^.m ve^` tha^'t ba.i co' khi co`n
> quan tro.ng ho+n kinh nghie^.m ve^` nhu+~ng tha`nh
> co^ng ;-)
Ba`i vo+? thi` nhie^`u, ke.t qua' thi` nha('m ma('t mo'c dda.i ca'i
howto ra di.ch ro^`i .. dda(ng ba'o :D (j/k). 

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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[pclouds]

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> On Tuesday 05 October 2004 11:23 pm, 0xdeface wrote:
> > Em nghi~ la` ne^'u la`m thi` cu+' du~ng ca?m ba('t tay
> > va`o tho^i, tho+`i gian dda^`u cha('c cha('n la` kho'
> > kha(n: va.n su+. kho+?i dda^`u nan. Tuy nhie^n sau
> > ddo' khi dda~ co' dda` ro^`i thi` vie^.c duy tri`
> > Vizine kho^ng kho' la('m.
> 
> Nhu+ng ba`n cho ky~ ca`ng, ba`n to+'i ba`n lui, cu~ng kho^ng thu+`a
> dda^u. Vi' 
> du. : xa`i Viqr hay xa`i Unicode? Pha?i nha^'t tri' tru+o+'c ca'i na`y
> dda~.

Ne^'u la` web thi` cu+' unicode ma` phang. Ca^`n thi` tapchi.vnlinux.org
cho phe'p cho.n charset ;)

> 
> Ro^`i co`n va^'n dde^` thua^.t ngu+~. Ai cu~ng bie^'t thua^.t ngu+~ IT
> cu?a ta 
> thi` co' nhie^`u "phe" la('m, nha('c dde^'n tha^'y ra^`u. Va^.y . . .
> la.p 
> xu+o+`ng cu?a chu'ng ta ve^` va^'n dde^` na`y nhu+ the^' na`o? Rie^ng
> mo^.t 
> vu. phie^n a^m, lu'c the^' na`y lu'c the^' kha'c la` kho^ng o^?n
> ro^`i. Tui 
> nghe ma^'y co^ xu+o+'ng ngo^n vie^n dda`i truye^`n hi`nh ddo.c "nho'm
> go+` 
> ba^?y", "dda('p liu dda('p liu dda('p liu cha^'m com", "in te.c ne't",
> lu'c 
> ta^y, lu'c My~, lu'c ta,  thie^.t ti`nh nhu+'c nho^'i qua'!

Ta.p chi' cho ngu+o+`i Vie^.t thi` du`ng tie^'ng Vie^.t. Nhu+~ng tu+`
na`o ghi ma` ko cha('c ba` con se~ hie^?u (hic) thi` quote the^m ca'i
tu+` go^'c cu?a no' la.i


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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[pclouds]

 --- 0xdeface <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> OK, e-zine chu+a co' te^n, em cu+' ta.m go.i no' la`
> Vizine, vie^'t ta('t cu?a "Vietlug e-zine" cho nga('n
> go.n ;-)

Tui khoa'i "Ta.p chi' VietLUG" vie^'t ta('t "VietLUG" :)
DDo' la` te^n official, co`n code name thi` vizine.

DDe^` nghi. ca'c ba'c cho bie^'t ca'c quy ta('c gu+?i ba`i, vd format
na`o ddu+o+.c cha^'p nha^.n, gu+?i ddi dda^u, khi ko ddu+o+.c accept
thi` co' tho^ng ba'o ko, danh sa'ch "pho'ng vie^n chie^'n tru+o+`ng" o+?
dda^u (dde^? ba` con co`n bie^'t ddu+o+`ng lo^i tha(`ng PV ddo' ra ..
chu+?i :D)

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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[Larry Nguyen]

On 10:25:24 am 10/07/04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 October 2004 11:23 pm, 0xdeface wrote:
> >  Em nghi~ la` ne^'u la`m thi` cu+' du~ng ca?m ba('t tay
> >  va`o tho^i, tho+`i gian dda^`u cha('c cha('n la` kho'
> >  kha(n: va.n su+. kho+?i dda^`u nan. Tuy nhie^n sau
> >  ddo' khi dda~ co' dda` ro^`i thi` vie^.c duy tri`
> >  Vizine kho^ng kho' la('m.
>
> Nhu+ng ba`n cho ky~ ca`ng, ba`n to+'i ba`n lui, cu~ng kho^ng thu+`a
> dda^u. Vi' du. : xa`i Viqr hay xa`i Unicode? Pha?i nha^'t tri'
> tru+o+'c ca'i na`y dda~.
> 

VIQR chu+' ba'c! Unicode dda^u co' ai ddo.c ddu+o+.c :) Just joking, sir.


Xin lo^~i vi` qua' hu+'ng!


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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[Larry Nguyen]

On 10:20:24 pm 10/05/04 0xdeface <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 




>
> Ba'c Phong: Ba'c co' nhu+~ng y' tu+o+?ng he^'t su+'c
> sa^u sa('c. Em chi? muo^'n nha^'n ma.nh mo^.t ddie^`u:
> Vizine ddu+o+.c xa^y du+.ng bo+?i co^.ng ddo^`ng, va`
> cho co^.ng ddo^`ng ne^n mo^.t trong nhu+~ng tie^u chi'
> cu?a no' la`: phi lo+.i nhua^.n, phi lo+.i nhua^.n va`
> phi lo+.i nhua^.n. Ne^'u kho^ng thi` no' se~ kho^ng
> co' ly' do gi` to^`n ta.i ca? (ma` chuye^?n sang mo^.t
> da.ng kha'c ro^`i)

Chuye^.n Phong no'i kho^ng co' nghi~a la` se~ thu+.c hie^.n mo.i thu+' ngay
tu+` ba^y gio+`. Ma` chi? hy vo.ng khuye^'n khi'ch ddu+o+.c va`i ngu+o+`i
tham gia. Let's face it: nothing is free and last forever :)


>
> Ba'c Larry: Tre^n list na`y qua? tha^.t em kho^ng
> bie^'t mo^.t ai, va` cu~ng kho^ng mo^.t ai bie^'t em.
> Nhu+ng ddie^`u ddo' hoa`n toa`n kho^ng nga(n ca?n em
> ddo'ng go'p cho co^.ng ddo^`ng, pha?i kho^ng ba'c?
> Cu~ng nhu+ ba^'t ky` mo^.t OSS project na`o, ne^'u em
> contribute code cho no' thi` cha('c cha('n em se~
> ddu+o+.c cha`o ddo'n va` kho^ng ai ho?i em la` ai ca?.
> Vietlug ne^'u ddu? lo+'n ma.nh thi` no' se~ kho^ng
> co`n la` mo^.t nho'm nho? nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i quen bie^'t
> nhau nu+~a\.
>

Hehe, mi`nh no'i dde^? go'p y' ba'c tho^i chu+' co`n du`ng nick gi` thi`
dda^u co' ai care. DDa^u co' y' pha?i ba('t buo^.c ba'c gio+'i thie^.u
mi`nh la` ai. Ba'c ddu+`ng hie^?u la^`m nhe' :)


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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[maikhai04]

On Tuesday 05 October 2004 11:23 pm, 0xdeface wrote:
> Em nghi~ la` ne^'u la`m thi` cu+' du~ng ca?m ba('t tay
> va`o tho^i, tho+`i gian dda^`u cha('c cha('n la` kho'
> kha(n: va.n su+. kho+?i dda^`u nan. Tuy nhie^n sau
> ddo' khi dda~ co' dda` ro^`i thi` vie^.c duy tri`
> Vizine kho^ng kho' la('m.

Nhu+ng ba`n cho ky~ ca`ng, ba`n to+'i ba`n lui, cu~ng kho^ng thu+`a dda^u. Vi' 
du. : xa`i Viqr hay xa`i Unicode? Pha?i nha^'t tri' tru+o+'c ca'i na`y dda~.

Ro^`i co`n va^'n dde^` thua^.t ngu+~. Ai cu~ng bie^'t thua^.t ngu+~ IT cu?a ta 
thi` co' nhie^`u "phe" la('m, nha('c dde^'n tha^'y ra^`u. Va^.y . . . la.p 
xu+o+`ng cu?a chu'ng ta ve^` va^'n dde^` na`y nhu+ the^' na`o? Rie^ng mo^.t 
vu. phie^n a^m, lu'c the^' na`y lu'c the^' kha'c la` kho^ng o^?n ro^`i. Tui 
nghe ma^'y co^ xu+o+'ng ngo^n vie^n dda`i truye^`n hi`nh ddo.c "nho'm go+` 
ba^?y", "dda('p liu dda('p liu dda('p liu cha^'m com", "in te.c ne't", lu'c 
ta^y, lu'c My~, lu'c ta,  thie^.t ti`nh nhu+'c nho^'i qua'!

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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[maikhai04]

On Tuesday 05 October 2004 11:20 pm, 0xdeface wrote:
> OK, e-zine chu+a co' te^n, em cu+' ta.m go.i no' la`
> Vizine, vie^'t ta('t cu?a "Vietlug e-zine" cho nga('n
> go.n ;-)

Vezine cho+'! Chu+~ "Vi" xui la('m, kho^ng ai u+a. Hehe.
Nhu+ng Vezine nghe cu~ng tu+.a tu+.a nhu+ thuo^'c ta^y, kho^ng pha?i ddo^` IT.
Hay la` vie^'t  la` vEzine cho no' ky` ky`, tha`nh logo luo^n (ba('t chu+o+'c 
kie^?u SuSE)
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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[0xdeface]

Hi,

Em nghi~ la` ne^'u la`m thi` cu+' du~ng ca?m ba('t tay
va`o tho^i, tho+`i gian dda^`u cha('c cha('n la` kho'
kha(n: va.n su+. kho+?i dda^`u nan. Tuy nhie^n sau
ddo' khi dda~ co' dda` ro^`i thi` vie^.c duy tri`
Vizine kho^ng kho' la('m.

Mo^.t trong nhu+~ng ddie^`u lo nga.i nha^'t la` i't
ba`i vo+?. Thu+.c ra vo+'i no^.i dung la` pho^? bie^'n
kinh nghie^.m, trao ddo^`i tho^ng tin, e-zine thi`
informal thi` vie^'t ba`i dda^u co' kho'. Cha(?ng ha.n
cu. maikhai sau 1 tua^`n va^.t va~ vo+'i YOper, muo^'n
nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kha'c tra'nh ve^'t xe ddo^? cu?a cu.,
co' the^? la`m mo^.t qua? "YOper va` 7 nga`y ma^'t
ngu?". Kinh nghie^.m ve^` tha^'t ba.i co' khi co`n
quan tro.ng ho+n kinh nghie^.m ve^` nhu+~ng tha`nh
co^ng ;-)

Tho+`i gian dda^`u co' the^? dda(.t tru+.c tie^'p
mo^.t so^' ba'c vie^'t ba`i, cha(?ng ha.n (thi' du.
cho vui ;-)
- Chim ca'nh cu.t o+? xu+' so+? ma(.t tro+`i mo.c
(ba'c James)
- Pha^`n me^`m ma~ nguo^`n mo+? u+'ng du.ng trong y
te^' (ba'c Tha`nh, chu? ti.ch HanoiLug)
- Tex va` tie^'ng Vie^.t (ba'c Vnpenguine)

Em nghi~ la` Vietlug co`n ra^'t nhie^`u ngu+o+`i im
la(.ng tham gia list, lo+'n ho+n nhie^`u so^' va^~n
post le^n list ha`ng nga`y\. Em tro^ng cho+` va`o
tie^`m na(ng kho^ng ngo+` cu?a co^.ng ddo^`ng - hy
vo.ng no' se~ mang la.i cho chu'ng ta mo^.t su+. nga.c
nhie^n thu' vi. :-)

Ngoa`i nhu+~ng ddie^`u dda~ ba`n, mo^.t so^' lo+.i
i'ch kha'c ma` Vizine se~ mang la.i:

- DDu+a la.i mo^.t phu+o+ng tie^.n trao ddo^?i tho^ng
tin o+? mo^.t mu+'c cao ho+n: Hie^.n nay phu+o+ng
tie^.n trao ddo^?i chu? ye^'u va^~n la` mailing list,
tu+'c la` kho^ng kha'c gi` so vo+'i nga`y dda^`u\.
Nhu+ng da^`n da^`n co^.ng ddo^`ng lo+'n ma.nh ho+n,
chi? ML rie^ng kho^ng co`n la` ddu? nu+~a\. Ne^'u ai
muo^'n chia se~ tho^ng tin nhu+ vie^'t ba`i gio+'i
thie^.u da`i va` co' ti'nh chuye^n sa^u ve^` kinh
nghie^.m cu?a mi`nh thi` ML chu+a ha(?n dda~ thi'ch
ho+.p. Em xin la^'y mo^.t vi' du.: ai cu~ng bie^'t
ba'c Phan The^' Trung la` mo^.t ngu+o+`i ra^'t nhie^.t
ti`nh. DDe^? gio+'i thie^.u GnuPG, ba'c pha?i cho+`
to+'i "FOSS day", nhu+ng no' chi? xa?y ra co' 1 na(m 1
la^`n tho^i. Co' the^? ba'c Trung co`n ra^'t nhie^`u
ddie^`u muo^'n no'i, nhu+ng kho^ng bie^'t the^? hie^.n
o+? dda^u. Ne^'u co' Vizine, ta co' the^? ddu+o+.c
thu+o+?ng thu+'c nhie^`u ho+n ca'c kinh nghie^.m quy'
ba'u cu?a ba'c ;-)

- DDo'ng go'p cho co^.ng ddo^`ng ddu+o+.c nhie^`u ho+n
nu+~a: Hie^.n nay Vietlug do chi? la` mo^.t nho'm trao
ddo^?i tho^ng tin tre^n ML la` chu? ye^'u, bao go^`m
ha^`u he^'t la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ye^u thi'ch va` ha`nh
nghe^` CNTT, ne^n ta'c du.ng va` a?nh hu+o+?ng cu?a
no' to+'i co^.ng ddo^`ng co`n ha.n che^'. Vizine se~
la` mo^.t phu+o+ng thu+'c pho^? bie^'n ro^.ng ho+n
i'ch lo+.i cu?a ma~ nguo^`n mo+?.

- Quy tu. anh em ve^` mo^.t mo^'i: Hie^.n co' kha'
nhie^`u forum mo+? ra vo+'i quan ta^m la` Linux va`
ma~ nguo^`n mo+?, mo^~i no+i co' nhu+~ng mu.c ddi'ch
va` ddi.nh hu+o+'ng kha'c nhau\. Vizine co' the^? la`
mo^.t no+i quy tu. kho^ng pha^n bie^.t dde^? mo.i
ngu+o+`i trao ddo^?i tho^ng tin. Ly' do la` vi` mo+?
forum thi` chi? ca^`n mo^.t nho'm nho?, nhu+ng dde^?
la`m e-zine thi` cha('c cha('n la` ca^`n su+. ddo'ng
go'p cu?a ca? co^.ng ddo^`ng.

- Go'p pha^`n va`o vie^.c chua^?n ho'a thua^.t ngu+~
tie^'ng Vie^.t: Vie^'t mo^.t ba`i ba'o su+? du.ng
ngo^n ngu+~ thua^`n Vie^.t, i't la.m du.ng ca'c
thua^.t ngu+~ tie^'ng Anh kho^ng pha?i la` de^~. Mo^.t
trong nhu+~ng quan ta^m lo+'n cu?a mo.i ngu+o+`i la`
vie^.c Vie^.t ho'a ca'c u+'ng du.ng ma~ mo+?, dde^?
pho^? bie^'n ho+n nu+~a OSS cho co^.ng ddo^`ng. Vizine
ra ddo+`i se~ go'p pha^`n na`o va`o vie^.c chua^?n
ho'a vie^.c su+? du.ng ca'c thua^.t ngu+~, ma` hie^.n
nay ddang ra^'t lo^.n xo^.n o+? Vie^.t Nam.


So+ so+ the^', vie^.c nghi~a nhi`n tha^'y kha'
nhie^`u\ :-) Thay vi` chu? ye^'u chi? la` no+i trao
ddo^?i tho^ng tin, sao Vietlug kho^ng ba('t tay va`o
la`m mo^.t ca'i gi` cu. the^? ho+n, mang la.i nhie^`u
lo+.i i'ch ho+n. Ca'i ddo' chi'nh la` ca'i chu'ng ta
ddang ba`n o+? dda^y ;-)

Na`o anh em ta ..

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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[0xdeface]

Hi,

OK, e-zine chu+a co' te^n, em cu+' ta.m go.i no' la`
Vizine, vie^'t ta('t cu?a "Vietlug e-zine" cho nga('n
go.n ;-)

Ba'c James: ho'a ra la` dda~ tu+`ng co' y' tu+o+?ng
nhu+ the^' na`y tru+o+'c ro^`i, vi` la` em va`o list
sau ne^n kho^ng bie^'t. Ho+n 1 na(m dda~ tro^i qua, hy
vo.ng gio+` dda^y y' tu+o+?ng cu?a ba'c khi tru+o+'c
dda~ chi'n muo^`i dde^? co' the^? thu+.c hie^.n
ddu+o+.c :-)

Ba'c Phong: Ba'c co' nhu+~ng y' tu+o+?ng he^'t su+'c
sa^u sa('c. Em chi? muo^'n nha^'n ma.nh mo^.t ddie^`u:
Vizine ddu+o+.c xa^y du+.ng bo+?i co^.ng ddo^`ng, va`
cho co^.ng ddo^`ng ne^n mo^.t trong nhu+~ng tie^u chi'
cu?a no' la`: phi lo+.i nhua^.n, phi lo+.i nhua^.n va`
phi lo+.i nhua^.n. Ne^'u kho^ng thi` no' se~ kho^ng
co' ly' do gi` to^`n ta.i ca? (ma` chuye^?n sang mo^.t
da.ng kha'c ro^`i)

Ba'c Larry: Tre^n list na`y qua? tha^.t em kho^ng
bie^'t mo^.t ai, va` cu~ng kho^ng mo^.t ai bie^'t em.
Nhu+ng ddie^`u ddo' hoa`n toa`n kho^ng nga(n ca?n em
ddo'ng go'p cho co^.ng ddo^`ng, pha?i kho^ng ba'c?
Cu~ng nhu+ ba^'t ky` mo^.t OSS project na`o, ne^'u em
contribute code cho no' thi` cha('c cha('n em se~
ddu+o+.c cha`o ddo'n va` kho^ng ai ho?i em la` ai ca?.
Vietlug ne^'u ddu? lo+'n ma.nh thi` no' se~ kho^ng
co`n la` mo^.t nho'm nho? nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i quen bie^'t
nhau nu+~a\.

Ve^` vie^.c "kho^ng co^ng": DDo^`ng y' tie^`n la` quan
tro.ng, nhu+ng cu~ng tu`y no+i cho^'n dde^` kie^'m
tie^`n. Em cha(?ng ha.n, tha^'y mi`nh hu+o+?ng lo+.i
vo^ so^' tu+` Linux va` ca'c sa?n pha^?m ma~ mo+?
kha'c. Nay se~ ra^'t ho+.p le~ va` tu+. nhie^n ne^'u
em mong muo^'n ddu+o+.c vo^ tu+ ddo'ng go'p la.i chu't
xi'u cho co^.ng ddo^`ng, vi` em kho^ng muo^'n xo+i
ca?, pha?i kho^ng ca'c ba'c ;-)

Em nghi~ gia? su+? (la.c quan) Vizine co' the^? tra?
mo^.t chu't cho ba`i vie^'t cu?a em, thi` cha('c chi?
ddu? dde^? uo^'ng ma^'y co^'c bia vo+'i ba.n be`.
Tho+`i gian dde^? vie^'t ddo' la`m ca'i kha'c co' le~
ra tie^`n ho+n, hoa(.c ne^'u kho^ng na(`m khe^?nh xem
phim, ddo'ng bo^. ddi ba't pho^' co`n su+o+'ng ho+n,
ne^n ne^'u ai muo^'n ddo'ng go'p thi` mu.c tie^u
cha('c kho^ng pha?i la` tie^`n, ddu'ng kho^ng ca'c
ba'c :-)

Ngoa`i le^` mo^.t chu't ve^` hacker: kho^ng ro~ ba'c
Larry quan nie^.m the^' na`o, nhu+ng ddo^'i vo+'i em
hacker la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co' kie^'n thu+'c, ky~
na(ng, va` li~nh vu+.c quan ta^m cu?a ho. la` an toa`n
tho^ng tin. Nhu+ va^.y thi` chi'nh ca'c ba'c ha`ng
nga`y dda~/ddang su+? du.ng nhie^`u sa?n pha^?m cu?a
ca'c hacker: nmap (a fingerprinting tool) la` mo^.t
vi' du.

Theo nghi~a ro^.ng cu?a tu+` hacker, thi` Linus va`
ca'c ddo^`ng ddo^.i xa^y du+.ng kernel la` ca'c hacker
o+? dda(?ng ca^'p cao nha^'t. Ma` ma~ nguo^`n dda~
mo+? ro^`i thi` ngu+o+`i vie^'t la` hacker hay kho^ng
dde^`u ddu+o+.c welcome pha?i kho^ng ca'c ba'c :-)

Co`n em thi` la^'y ca'i nick na`y cho vui tho^i,
tri`nh ddo^. thi` co`n pha?i ho.c ca'c ba'c da`i da`i,
co' bie^'t hack gi` dda^u :-)
 
Topic na`y co' mu.c ddi'ch la` ke^u go.i va` ti`m
kie^'m su+. ddo^`ng thua^.n cho vie^.c ra ddo+`i cu?a
Vizine\. Ne^'u tha^'y ne^'u dda~ ddu? co+ ho^.i thi`
ta xu'c tie^'n chuye^?n sang vie^.c xa'c ddi.nh mu.c
tie^u, ddi.nh hu+o+'ng, pha.m vi hoa.t ddo^.ng cu?a
Vizine\. Sau ddo' la` ba`n ve^` vie^.c to^? chu+'c
tha`nh la^.p ca'c bo^. pha^.n dde^? cho so^' #1 ra
ddo+`i :-)

Co`n nhie^`u ba'c hay post tre^n list va^~n chu+a
xua^'t hie^.n. Vizine la`m sao co' the^? ra ddo+`i ma`
kho^ng co' ca'c ba'c :-). Mong ca'c ba'c va`o dda^y
ddo'ng go'p cho y' tu+o+?ng na`y\.

Ma` ca'c ba'c chu? ti.ch SaigonLug va` HanoiLug dda^u
ro^`i i' nhi? ?

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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[Hoang Tuan Quynh]

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 07:45:02 +0700, pclouds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:11:25PM +0300, Le Thanh Phong wrote:
> > 7. Ca'c ban kha'c : Phu. tra'ch marketing, qua?ng ca'o va` promote cho
> > ta.p chi' ...
> 
> Hehe.. ba'c Quy`nh o+'i! :D

Co' ca'i tha^n em dda^y :-) Em xung phong ddu+'ng ngay nga~ 4, nga~ 5
hay tru+o+'c co^?ng tru+o+`ng dda.i ho.c dde^? pha't to+` ro+i qua?ng
ca'o :-) DDe.p trai nhu+ em cha('c cha('n se~ co' va`i co^ sinh vie^n
chi.u ddo.c to+` ba'o vie^'t ve^` Linux cha'n phe`o ma` la.i kho^ng
co' khuye^'n ma~i :-)

(Mu~i /me no^? ddu`ng mo^.t ca'i :-))

Joke cho vui :-) Ca'c ba'c ca^`n em la`m vie^.c gi` cu+' no'i, em se~
co^' ga('ng, kho^ng xa^'u ho^? la` kho^ng xa^'u ho^? :-)

Cheers,

Em Quy`nh


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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[pclouds]

On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:11:25PM +0300, Le Thanh Phong wrote:
> Chu'ng ta khoan no'i ve^` vie^.c mu.c tie^u va` no^.i dung cua ta.p chi' 
> ma` ha~y
> ba`n so* ve^` to^? chu*'c de^? xua^'t ba?n 1 ta.p chi' ...
> 
> 1. Ngu*o*`i qua?n ly' va chi.u tra'ch nhie^.m xua^'t ba?n : Ngu*o*`i 
> du*'ng ra gia'm sa't, qua?n ly' va` chi.u tra'ch nhie^m chi'nh cho no^.i 
> dung cu?a ta.p chi' VietLUG.
> 
> 2. Ban bie^n ta^.p : Sa`ng lo.c va` chu toa`n no^.i dung tho^ng tin se~ 
> xua^'t ba?n ha`ng tha'ng, ca'c no^.i dung na`o du*o*.c xua^'t ba?n se~ 
> do ban bie^n ta^.p phu. tra'ch. Ban bie^n ta^.p pha?i la` ngu*o*`i co^' 
> va^'n va` gia'm di.nh ti'nh du'ng da('n cu?a tho^ng tin tre^n ba`i vie^'t.
> 
> 3. Ban thie^'t ke^' : Se~ phu. tra'ch to^? chu*'c va` tri`nh ba`y la.i 
> no^.i dung tho^ng tin ca? ve^` phu*o*ng die^.n website va` ba`i vie^'t ..
> 
> 4. Site admins : Chi.u tra'ch nhie^.m na^ng ca^'p ba?o tri` va` ba?o 
> ma^.t cho website do^`ng tho*`i thie^'t ke^' the^m ca'c ti'nh na(ng 
> ca^`n thie^'t cho website.

Admin thi` ne^'u du`ng tapchi.vnlinux.org thi` bie^'t admin la` ai
ro^`i :) Ve^` ban qua?n ly' dde^` nghi. ca'c ba'c ba^`u (hoa(.c
tu+. tie^'n cu+?) va`i ngu+o+`i ddi\. Ban thie^'t ke^' co' ba'c foobar
ko ca` :D

> 
> 5. Ban di.ch thua^.t : Chi.u tra'ch nhie^.m di.ch thua^.t (A<->V va`
> 5. V<->A)

Chuye^.n V->A tu+` tu+`. Tru+o+'c ma('t co' tie^'ng Vie^.t cho ba` con xem
ca'i dda~. Ba'o tie^'ng Anh vo^ so^', ne^n sau na`y ha(~ng ti'nh
chuye^.n V->A

> 
> 6. Pho'ng vie^n : Chi.u tra'ch nhie^.m su*u ta^`m hoa(.c vie^'t ba`i cho 
> ca'c de^` ta`i kha'c nhau tre^n Linux.

Cho em xin mo^.t cha^n la`m pho'ng vie^n, chuye^n tha(m do` ddo^.ng
ti~nh www.osnews.com. Co`n ba'c na`o dda(ng ky' PV na(`m vu`ng ca'c
site na`o kha'c nu+~a ko ? ;) Co`n mo^.t so^' trang hay hay (lwn.net,
linuxgazette.com, distrowatch.com ...)

> 
> 7. Ca'c ban kha'c : Phu. tra'ch marketing, qua?ng ca'o va` promote cho 
> ta.p chi' ...

Hehe.. ba'c Quy`nh o+'i! :D

> 
> Nhu*~ng hu*'a he.n cho tu*o*ng lai, co' the^? xua^'t ba?n ta.p chi' 
> tha^.t (paper-form) va` se~ co' tie^`n nhua^.n bu't cho ta'c gia? va` 
> thu nha^.p cho ca'c ba'c o*? ca'c ban. Ta.p chi' co' the^? se~ la` nhi.p 
> ca^`u tho^ng tin cho nhu*~ng ngu*o*` du`ng Linux Vietnam co' ca'i nhi`n 
> cu. the^? va` ro~ ra`ng ve^` Linux. Ta.p chi' cu~ng co' the^? la` co^.ng 
> do^.ng ngu*o*`i du`ng Linux trau do^`i kie^'n thu*'c, la` mo^.t sa^n 
> cho*i, thu*.c ha`nh kie^'n thu*'c cho ca'c ba.n dang ho.c ve^` Linux (y' 
> mi`nh la` ca'c ba.n tu*` vie^.c vie^'t ba`i co' the^? cu?ng co^' kie^'n 
> thu*'c va` hie^?u ro~ va^'n de^` ho*n)
[snip]

DDo.c mo^.t ho^`i u` tai hoa ma('t. Tru+o+'c ma('t cu+' la`m sao cho
co' VietLUG Magazine so^' 1 ro^`i review la.i khu'c na`y va^.y :)

DDe^` nghi. la^.p ban ddie^`u ha`nh le. le, ra tho^ng ba'o ddie^`u
le^. dde^? pho'ng vie^n co`n ddi gom tin chu+'!

-- 
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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[Larry Nguyen]

On 6:01:40 am 10/05/04 kasumoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> hello all,
> Tu.i KDE dev ma` ddo.c ddu+o+.c thi` cha('c vui la('m. Chuye^?n sang
> du`ng mozilla-mail, evolution ddi ba'c. Du`ng mutt co`n tie^.n ho+n
> nu+~a :)  # apt-get update && apt-get --yes install evolution
>  The^' la` ok

Ca'i na`y mostly la` do font. Mi`nh ddang cha.y kmail dda^u co' sao ba'c? :)
Kasumoto ma` du. ddu+O+.c ba'c Ha?i bo? KDE thi`...dda'ng phu.c :)


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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[Le Thanh Phong]

Chu'ng ta khoan no'i ve^` vie^.c mu.c tie^u va` no^.i dung cua ta.p chi' 
ma` ha~y
ba`n so* ve^` to^? chu*'c de^? xua^'t ba?n 1 ta.p chi' ...

1. Ngu*o*`i qua?n ly' va chi.u tra'ch nhie^.m xua^'t ba?n : Ngu*o*`i 
du*'ng ra gia'm sa't, qua?n ly' va` chi.u tra'ch nhie^m chi'nh cho no^.i 
dung cu?a ta.p chi' VietLUG.

2. Ban bie^n ta^.p : Sa`ng lo.c va` chu toa`n no^.i dung tho^ng tin se~ 
xua^'t ba?n ha`ng tha'ng, ca'c no^.i dung na`o du*o*.c xua^'t ba?n se~ 
do ban bie^n ta^.p phu. tra'ch. Ban bie^n ta^.p pha?i la` ngu*o*`i co^' 
va^'n va` gia'm di.nh ti'nh du'ng da('n cu?a tho^ng tin tre^n ba`i vie^'t.

3. Ban thie^'t ke^' : Se~ phu. tra'ch to^? chu*'c va` tri`nh ba`y la.i 
no^.i dung tho^ng tin ca? ve^` phu*o*ng die^.n website va` ba`i vie^'t ..

4. Site admins : Chi.u tra'ch nhie^.m na^ng ca^'p ba?o tri` va` ba?o 
ma^.t cho website do^`ng tho*`i thie^'t ke^' the^m ca'c ti'nh na(ng 
ca^`n thie^'t cho website.

5. Ban di.ch thua^.t : Chi.u tra'ch nhie^.m di.ch thua^.t (A<->V va` V<->A)
6. Pho'ng vie^n : Chi.u tra'ch nhie^.m su*u ta^`m hoa(.c vie^'t ba`i cho 
ca'c de^` ta`i kha'c nhau tre^n Linux.

7. Ca'c ban kha'c : Phu. tra'ch marketing, qua?ng ca'o va` promote cho 
ta.p chi' ...

Nhu*~ng hu*'a he.n cho tu*o*ng lai, co' the^? xua^'t ba?n ta.p chi' 
tha^.t (paper-form) va` se~ co' tie^`n nhua^.n bu't cho ta'c gia? va` 
thu nha^.p cho ca'c ba'c o*? ca'c ban. Ta.p chi' co' the^? se~ la` nhi.p 
ca^`u tho^ng tin cho nhu*~ng ngu*o*` du`ng Linux Vietnam co' ca'i nhi`n 
cu. the^? va` ro~ ra`ng ve^` Linux. Ta.p chi' cu~ng co' the^? la` co^.ng 
do^.ng ngu*o*`i du`ng Linux trau do^`i kie^'n thu*'c, la` mo^.t sa^n 
cho*i, thu*.c ha`nh kie^'n thu*'c cho ca'c ba.n dang ho.c ve^` Linux (y' 
mi`nh la` ca'c ba.n tu*` vie^.c vie^'t ba`i co' the^? cu?ng co^' kie^'n 
thu*'c va` hie^?u ro~ va^'n de^` ho*n)

Thua^.n lo*.i : Tre^n thi. tru*o*`ng Vn chu*a co' 1 ta.p chi' hoa(.c 
website na`o chuye^n ve^` Linux ti'nh ne^n ca.nh tranh la` kho^ng co'. 
Linux la` 1 xu the^' mo*'i o*? Vn co' su*. quan ta^m cu?a nha` nu*o*'c 
va` nhu*~ng ti'nh cha^'t ve^` ho.c thua^.t ... Ba?n tha^n mi`nh cu~ng 
cho ra(`ng ho.c Linux co' lo*.i i'ch ra^'t lo*'n trong vie^.c gia'o du.c

Kho' kha(n : Thie^'u nguo^`n nha^n lu*.c cho ca'c ban. Ca'c ba'c chu*a 
co' quan die^?m tho^ng nha^'t va` tin tu*o*?ng va`o su*. tha`nh co^ng 
cu?a ta.p chi' .
Do hoa.t do^.ng tre^n tinh tha^`n tu*. nguye^.n (ban da^`u thui) ne^n 
kho' lo`ng thu hu't du*o*.c nhu*~ng chuye^n vie^n thu*.c su*. tham gia 
gu*?i ba`i (Ne^'u tui no'i tui mo*'i la` sinh vie^n na(m 3 thi` vie^'t 
ba`i ai the`m xem va` ai se~ tin va`o no^.i dung tui vie^'t). Su*. pho^? 
bie^'n cu?a Linux chu*a cao o*? Vn do o*? tru*o*`ng da.i ho.c va` nhu 
ca^`u tuye^?n du.ng va^~n la Microsoft-based la` chi'nh.

Phu*o*ng cha^m ha`nh do^.ng : Mo^.t ca^y la`m cha(?ng ne^n non, 3 ca^y 
chu.m la.i ne^n ho`n nu'i cao. Ca'c ba'c mo^~i ngu*o*`i da`nh ti' tho*`i 
gian, tham gia va`o tu*`ng ban rie^ng bie^.t tu`y va`o so*? thi'ch cu?a 
mi`nh thi` a('t ha(?n no' se~ ca'i gi` do' trong tu*o*ng lai. "No matter 
what difficulties, the difficulites are always people" ... Vie^.c vie^'t 
ba`i kho^ng ha(?n pha?i thu*.c chuye^n nghie^.p va` mang ti'nh "ra`ng 
buo^.c" ma` co' the^? xem do' nhu* mo^.t hoa.t do^.ng "gia?i tri'" 
nha(`m trao do^`i, na^ng cao va` cu?ng co^' kie^'n thu*'c. Cho ne^n 
vie^.c to^? chu*'c mo^.t ta.p chi' kho^ng ha(?n la` impossible.

De^? de^~ da`ng thi` ngu*o*`i qua?n ly' va` chi.u tra'ch nhie^m chi'nh 
ne^n la` admin cu?a VietLug website, ne^n ba'c Larry ba'c se~ da?m 
nhie^.m vai tro` na`y di :D. Rie^ng mi`nh thi` ra^'t thi'ch vie^'t ba`i 
ne^n cu~ng ra^'t mu'n tham gia va`o ban "pho'ng vie^n" :D ...


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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[Larry Nguyen]

On 8:00:25 pm 10/04/04 chairuou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://tapchi.vnlinux.org co' la^u ro^`i, chu+a co' .. contents tho^i
> ;)
>

Yeah, mi`nh dda~ muo^'n la`m ca'i na`y la^u la('m ro^`i, ho^`i tru+o+'c co'
ho?i y' mo^.t va`i ba.n nhu+ng vi` la`m 0 co^ng ne^n 0 ai co' hu+'ng thu'
:(

Nay 0xdeface dde^` nghi. thi` topic na`y la.i no^?i le^n ti' nhu+ng 0 ro~
se~ ddi to+'i dda^u. BTW, ba'c 0xdeface co' nhu+~ng dde^` nghi. ke^u go.i
mo.i ngu+o+`n ne^n la`m nhu+ng ha^`u he^'t tre^n list co' le~ kho^ng bie^t
ba'c la` ai :) Tu+o+?ng tu+o+.ng Linus ma` la^'y nick la` h4x0r thi` cha('c
0 ai da'm du`ng Linux kernel :)

Mi`nh chi? muo^'n no'i chuye^.n la`m e-zine mi`nh hoa`n toa`n u?ng ho^.,
(web space, ddo'ng go'p ba`i vie^'t...) nhu+ng ca'i quan tro.ng la` ai se~
la` ngu+o+`i ddu+'ng ra to^? chu+'c? Bao nhie^u ngu+o+`i se~ tham gia no^.p
ba`i? So far thi` tha^'y co' ve? VBach, PTLong, 0xdeface, ba'c chi nu+~a
be^n Nha^.t mo+'i sign up ML (sorry tie^'ng Nha^.t cu?a mi`nh te^. la('m
ne^n 0 nho+' te^n ba'c), ba'c Hoa`n (kho^ng bie^'t co`n hu+'ng vie^'t
gio+'i thie^.u pha^`n me^`m nu+~a kho^ng?). 

No'i to'm la.i tru+O+'c he^'t ta ca^`n bie^'t bao nhie^u ngu+o+`i se~ tham
gia. Ve^` pha^`n me^`m va` no^.i dung thi` ta co' the^? ba`n sau.


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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[kasumoto]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 05 October 2004 01:37 am, 0xdeface wrote:
 

Ba`i gi'o+'i thie^.u na`y luo^n luo^n KHO^NG sa(~n sa`ng. Ly' do: Kho^ng 
bie^'t gi'o+'i thie^.u the^' na`o dde^? xoa' ddi no^~i buo^`n kho^ng hie^?n 
thi. to^'t chu+~ Vie^.t trong Kmail. Co' ra^'t nhie^`u a`a`a`a` trong ba?n 
va(n kho^ng sao ma` fix ddu+o+.c hehe.
 

hello all,
Tu.i KDE dev ma` ddo.c ddu+o+.c thi` cha('c vui la('m. Chuye^?n sang 
du`ng mozilla-mail, evolution ddi ba'c. Du`ng mutt co`n tie^.n ho+n nu+~a :)
# apt-get update && apt-get --yes install evolution
The^' la` ok

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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[Viet Bach]

To^i xin dde^` nghi. va^~n giu+~ giao die^.n tie^'ng Anh va` the^m
giao die^.n tie^'ng Vie^.t.  Khi va`o 1 trang dda^`y chu+~ kho^ng 
nha^.n da.ng ddu+o+.c, vie^.c dda^`u tie^n la` to^i kie^'m button
Egnlish ne^n to^i nghi~ 1 ngu+o+`i nu+o+'c ngoa`i khi va`o ta.p chi'
cu?a chu'ng ta cu~ng se~ la`m nhu+ va^.y.  Co^.ng ddo^`ng Linux la`
mo^.t co^.ng ddo^`ng bao go^`m nhie^`u nu+o+'c tre^n the^' gio+'i,
chu'ng ta ne^n co' the^m tie^'ng Anh dde^? de^~ trao ddo^?i.
To^i xin volunteer la`m 1 cha^n di.ch thua^.t Vie^t -> Anh

Viet

--- Pham Thanh Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nhu+ va^.y thi` va^'n dde^` bay gio+` la` pha?i ba^`u ra mo^.t ban
> bie^n ta^.p. Ban bie^n ta^.p ngoa`i vie^.c ddie^`u ha`nh, bie^n
> ta^.p... co`n co' tra'ch nhie^.m tru+o+'c tie^n la` tha`nh la^.p ca'c
> chuye^n mu.c (ne^n tham kha?o y' kie^'n cu?a mo.i ngu+o+`i tru+o+'c
> khi quye^'t ddi.nh :D ).
> 
> Em dde^` nghi. la` ve^` ma(.t no^.i dung ne^n pha^n ra hai ma?ng
> du+.a
> tre^n tri`nh ddo^. su+? du.ng cu~ng nhu+ ti'nh phu+'c ta.p cu?a va^'n
> dde^`...
> 
> Co`n ve^` ca'c chuye^n mu.c cu. the^? , em dde^` nghi. ne^n co':
>   - mo^.t chuye^n mu.c to^?ng ho+.p tin tu+'c
>   - mo^.t chuye^n mu.c pha^n ti'ch to^?ng quan hay la` pha^n ti'ch
> ti`nh hi`nh pha't trie^?n PMNM cu~ng nhu+ xu hu+o+'ng
>   - mo^.t chuye^n mu.c ve^` di.ch thua^.t va` ba?n ddi.a hoa' PMNN
>   - ngoa`i ra, kho^ng the^? thie^'u pha^`n hu+o+'ng da^~n su+? du.ng,
> gio+'i thie^.u pha^`n me^`m v.v...
>   - ...
> 
> Ngoa`i ra, em cu~ng dde^` nghi. pha?i chuye^?n giao die^.n cu?a
> http://tapchi.vnlinux.org sang tie^'ng Vie^.t.
> 
> Se~ co`n ddo'ng go'p y' kie^'n tie^'p ;)
> 
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:00:25 +0700, chairuou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > http://tapchi.vnlinux.org co' la^u ro^`i, chu+a co' .. contents
> tho^i ;)
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Phạm Thà nh Long
> 
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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 05 October 2004 01:37 am, 0xdeface wrote:
 

- Gio+'i thie^.u ve^` distro nhanh nha^'t the^' gio+'i
YOper (cu. maikhai)
   

Ba`i gi'o+'i thie^.u na`y luo^n luo^n KHO^NG sa(~n sa`ng. Ly' do: Kho^ng 
bie^'t gi'o+'i thie^.u the^' na`o dde^? xoa' ddi no^~i buo^`n kho^ng hie^?n 
thi. to^'t chu+~ Vie^.t trong Kmail. Co' ra^'t nhie^`u a`a`a`a` trong ba?n 
va(n kho^ng sao ma` fix ddu+o+.c hehe.
 

Váy thà phái lÃm mát bÃi: 5 ngÃy vát lán vái KMail. Dáng nhÆ là kinh 
nghiám thác tá cáa ngÆái sá dáng Linux :)

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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[maikhai04]

On Tuesday 05 October 2004 01:37 am, 0xdeface wrote:
> Ba'c no'i chi'nh ho+.p y' em. Tru+o+'c he^'t ta ca^`n
> xa'c ddi.nh ro~ mu.c tie^u, ddi.nh hu+o+'ng, tie^u
> chi', pha.m vi hoa.t ddo^.ng cu?a e-zine.

Ba`n loa.n xa.:
Xin the^m mo^.t y' kie^'n: Nu+o+c ngoa`i hi`nh nhu+ co' mo^.t to^? chu+'c tu+ 
nha^n, ra^'t ra^'t ddo^.c la^.p, chuye^n dda'nh gia' ca'i na`y ca'i no. 
(hi`nh nhu+ pha^`n cu+'ng). Ta co' ddu? ngu+o+`i dde^? la`m mo^.t ca'i gi` 
gio^'ng nhu+ va^.y kho^ng? Ne^'u e-zine ma` la`m ddu+o+.c ca'i na`y, thi` 
cha('c cha('n se~ tro+? tha`nh mo^.t pha^`n kho^ng the^? thie^'u cu?a ne^`n 
IT Viet Nam (va` cha('c cha('n se~ tha`nh mo^.t ca'i bia hu+'ng dda.n nu+~a)

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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[maikhai04]

On Tuesday 05 October 2004 01:37 am, 0xdeface wrote:
> - Gio+'i thie^.u ve^` distro nhanh nha^'t the^' gio+'i
> YOper (cu. maikhai)

Ba`i gi'o+'i thie^.u na`y luo^n luo^n KHO^NG sa(~n sa`ng. Ly' do: Kho^ng 
bie^'t gi'o+'i thie^.u the^' na`o dde^? xoa' ddi no^~i buo^`n kho^ng hie^?n 
thi. to^'t chu+~ Vie^.t trong Kmail. Co' ra^'t nhie^`u a`a`a`a` trong ba?n 
va(n kho^ng sao ma` fix ddu+o+.c hehe.
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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[0xdeface]

--- Pham Thanh Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nhu+ va^.y thi` va^'n dde^` bay gio+` la` pha?i
> ba^`u ra mo^.t ban
> bie^n ta^.p. Ban bie^n ta^.p ngoa`i vie^.c ddie^`u
> ha`nh, bie^n
> ta^.p... co`n co' tra'ch nhie^.m tru+o+'c tie^n la`
> tha`nh la^.p ca'c
> chuye^n mu.c (ne^n tham kha?o y' kie^'n cu?a mo.i
> ngu+o+`i tru+o+'c
> khi quye^'t ddi.nh :D ).

Ba'c no'i chi'nh ho+.p y' em. Tru+o+'c he^'t ta ca^`n
xa'c ddi.nh ro~ mu.c tie^u, ddi.nh hu+o+'ng, tie^u
chi', pha.m vi hoa.t ddo^.ng cu?a e-zine.

Tie^'p ddo' dde^` cu+? mo^.t ho^.i ddo^`ng bie^n ta^.p
go^`m nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co' kinh nghie^.m, nhie^.t
ti`nh - vo+'i nhie^.m vu. quye^'t ddi.nh ba`i dda(ng
tre^n e-zine, ddi.nh hu+o+'ng va` chu? dde^` cu?a ca'c
so^' ra, ca'c chuye^n mu.c,..v.v\.

Ve^` no^.i dung cu?a so^' #1 co' the^? nhu+ the^' na`y
(thi' du. vui tho^i, cho anh em de^~ hi`nh dung ;-)
- Ho^`i ky' cu?a ca'c ba^.c la~o la`ng Vietlug ve^`
li.ch su+? va` qua' pha't trie^?n cu?a Vietlug ( cu?a
ca'c ba'c Larry, ba'c Nguye^~n DDa.i Quy', ba'c Ha`n
The^' Tha`nh...) (*)
- Ta^m su+. ki'n cu?a ba'c La^m, ta'c gia? xvnkb (*)
- Pho?ng va^'n rie^ng ba'c Long, ta'c gia? x-unikey
(*)
- Gio+'i thie^.u ve^` Linux security: ba'c Phan The^'
Trung
- Gio+'i thie^.u ve^` distro nhanh nha^'t the^' gio+'i
YOper (cu. maikhai)
- Hacking knoppix for fun & profit (cu. Hoa`n o+?
France)
- To^?ng ho+.p, pha^n ti'ch, dda'nh gia' ve^` ca'c
distro, ca'c sa?n pha^?m ma~ nguo^`n mo+?...

Em dda?m ba?o vo+'i ca'c ba'c ne^'u kho^ng co' e-zine,
kho^ng bao gio+` ta co' di.p thu+o+?ng thu+'c ca'c
ba`i vie^'t em dda'nh da^'u (*) o+? tre^n ta.i ba^'t
ky` forum na`o, hay tha^.m chi' ca? tre^n chi'nh ML
na`y.

Gi` thi` gi` ba'c na`o co' ba`i tre^n e-zine se~ tro+?
tha`nh tha^`n tu+o+.ng cu?a em ;-), va` se~ la` ta^'m
gu+o+ng ve^` su+. ddam me^ ho.c ho?i cho nhie^`u
tha`nh vie^n Vietlug kha'c, qua ddo' thu'c dda^?y su+.
pha't trie^?n cu?a Linux va` ma~ nguo^`n mo+? ho+n
nu+~a trong co^.ng ddo^`ng.

E-zine se~ dda(.t mo^.t da^'u mo^'c mo+'i cho su+.
pha't trie^?n cu?a Vietlug.

Mo+`i ca'c ba'c cho y' kie^'n the^m. Ra^'t mong ta^'t
ca? ca'c ba'c dda~ ddo.c ve^` topic na`y reply go'p y'
- chi' i't cu~ng la` dde^? cho bie^'t ddo^`ng ti`nh
u?ng ho^. hay kho^ng cho su+. ra ddo+`i cu?a Vietlug
e-zine\.

Xin ca?m o+n,
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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[Pham Thanh Long]

Nhu+ va^.y thi` va^'n dde^` bay gio+` la` pha?i ba^`u ra mo^.t ban
bie^n ta^.p. Ban bie^n ta^.p ngoa`i vie^.c ddie^`u ha`nh, bie^n
ta^.p... co`n co' tra'ch nhie^.m tru+o+'c tie^n la` tha`nh la^.p ca'c
chuye^n mu.c (ne^n tham kha?o y' kie^'n cu?a mo.i ngu+o+`i tru+o+'c
khi quye^'t ddi.nh :D ).

Em dde^` nghi. la` ve^` ma(.t no^.i dung ne^n pha^n ra hai ma?ng du+.a
tre^n tri`nh ddo^. su+? du.ng cu~ng nhu+ ti'nh phu+'c ta.p cu?a va^'n
dde^`...

Co`n ve^` ca'c chuye^n mu.c cu. the^? , em dde^` nghi. ne^n co':
  - mo^.t chuye^n mu.c to^?ng ho+.p tin tu+'c
  - mo^.t chuye^n mu.c pha^n ti'ch to^?ng quan hay la` pha^n ti'ch
ti`nh hi`nh pha't trie^?n PMNM cu~ng nhu+ xu hu+o+'ng
  - mo^.t chuye^n mu.c ve^` di.ch thua^.t va` ba?n ddi.a hoa' PMNN
  - ngoa`i ra, kho^ng the^? thie^'u pha^`n hu+o+'ng da^~n su+? du.ng,
gio+'i thie^.u pha^`n me^`m v.v...
  - ...

Ngoa`i ra, em cu~ng dde^` nghi. pha?i chuye^?n giao die^.n cu?a
http://tapchi.vnlinux.org sang tie^'ng Vie^.t.

Se~ co`n ddo'ng go'p y' kie^'n tie^'p ;)

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:00:25 +0700, chairuou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://tapchi.vnlinux.org co' la^u ro^`i, chu+a co' .. contents tho^i ;)
> 

-- 
Phám ThÃnh Long


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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[chairuou]

http://tapchi.vnlinux.org co' la^u ro^`i, chu+a co' .. contents tho^i ;)


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[Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

[kasumoto]

>Vietlug co' kha' nhie^`u ngu+o+`i co'
>nhie^`u kinh nghie^.m, ta^m huye^'t va` cu~ng co'
>mo^.t so^' dda~ va` ddang thu+.c hie^.n nhu+~ng
>nghie^n cu+'u pha't trie^?n, xa^y du+.ng ca'c sa?n
>pha^?m cho co^.ng ddo^`ng tre^n Linux. Se~ ra^'t thu'
>vi. ne^'u ta la`m mo^.t ca'i e-zine (magazine da.ng 
>ddie^.n tu+?, co' in xua^'t ba?n kho^ng thi` ba`n
>sau), va`i ba tha'ng ra mo^.t so^'. E-zine se~ ke^u
>go.i mo.i ngu+o+`i ddo'ng go'p ba`i vie^'t ve^` ca'c
>kinh nghie^.m, kie^'n thu+'c muo^'n pho^? bie^'n cho
>mo.i ngu+o+`i\.
Y' kie^'n hay qua', co' mo^.t so^' cuo^'n sa'ch da`y co^.p ra ddo+`i 
tu+` nhu+~ng ba`i ba'o
Kho^ng bie^'t ca'c ba'c leader nghi~ sao?

--kasumoto
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