Re: DTMF Re: Drain Crawler
Stripped down versions often came with answering machines for remote control, those were popular with hackers since with a little work they could do the same things as the more expensive DTMF dialers. :) These tone diallers were/are also popular with what alot of people call 'hackers' as some types (most notoriously the Radio Shack ones) can be re-crystalled and then used to defraud the coin tolling system used in American payphones. Such a modified device is called a red box. Unfortunately, the 'bot doesn't respond to DTMF tones, rather it responds to single and compund tones in the 1000-2800Hz range. If I can find a tone generation util, I'll try it, otherwise I'll just have to substitute my PC's Creative AWE-32. Also, IIRC, HyperCard 1.(something) could also be used to dial a phone number directly trough the modem. In this case you could hook up your rotary phone (Geez, I'm 18 and I remember these) and your Plus' modem in series and enjoy Mac controlled DTMF. Neat. Cheers, Adam. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DTMF Re: Drain Crawler
--- Alex Allee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/7/01 1:42 AM, Adam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rotary phone (Geez, I'm 18 and I remember these) Don't worry about it, I'm 19 and *use* a rotary phone. Heh, I'm 30 and remember when there was ONE style of phone available, supplied by Ma Bell. They had about 3 colors to choose from. They were rented, not sold. Eventually, if you wanted, you could buy your own phones, but they still had the same old Ma Bell supplied innards. Finally the companies that wanted to make their own complete phones got the government to make the telcos allow equipment not supplied by them to be connected to the phone system. Of course that all happened in the 1970's before you were born. ;) When that change happened, magazines like Popular Science ran articles on all the neat custom phones you could now buy. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DTMF Re: Drain Crawler
My Reply follows quote. On 07/08/2001 17:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick King) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now I feel terribly old. At 38, I think back on 18. I just can't conceive of being 18 anymore. I have socks that are that oldhehehehe I remember having that wonderful old Western Electric rotary dial phone when I was growing up. I also remember having a black and white tv. Kids today have it so easy.color tv, computers, satellite.when I was a kid we didn't even have calculators and we walked 5 miles to school every dayuphill both ways. God Bless, Rick -- OK, how about a hand cranked battery powered phone with which you contacted Central to get a line out of the neighborhood? Yeah, in the '50s in rural Oregon. Now I sit here playing with a 4 machine home network (6100s, 6300s and a 'doze box) with a DSL line. Oh the times, they are a changin'. Ken Daggett http://home1.gte.net/res0bznj/index.htm -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Drain Crawler
--- tesla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam: I have to wonder if perhaps you could generate those tones with your trusty touchtone phone? If it responds to DTMF tones there might be a DTMF tone generator program for Mac. There are several PC ones. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Drain Crawler
Even the oldest version of HyperCard could produce valid DTMF tones.:-) Bob - Original Message - From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Drain Crawler If it responds to DTMF tones there might be a DTMF tone generator program for Mac. There are several PC ones. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DTMF Re: Drain Crawler
Yes, my SE using HyperCard actually dials quite reliably that way, just by holding my phone's mouthpiece up to the speaker on the front of the Mac. Doesn't work as well on my Plus, since the speaker is deeper, and on the side. :-( Those pocket phone dialers were really useful! When many pay phones still had rotary dials, it was the only way to access Touch Tone features of banks and information sources when you were on the road. Incidentally, these tone dialers were listed in the Radio Shack 2000 catalog, but not the 2001 version, and yet they're still mentioned in the on-line catalog; I don't know if they can be special-ordered. Bob - Original Message - From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 1:10 PM Subject: DTMF Re: Drain Crawler So you could hold a rotary phone up to your Mac and dial numbers with HyperCard? ;-) A little unit that was popular in the 1980's was a small box about 1/2 the thickenss of a pager with a speaker on the back and a keypad on the front. [snip!] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
