Re: recording apps

[Feliciano Godoy]

I like the user interface and features of rev voice recorder. You can have 
recordings sync to dropbox automaticly or share via message, email etc. records 
in M4A, i record with the high quality mode.
Rev Voice Recorder: Audio Transcription and Dictation by Rev 
https://appsto.re/us/plDQJ.i

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> On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I used to have List Recorder, but when I want to record something I prefer a 
> very simple solution and I would agree with the recommendation for Dropvox. I 
> remember when List Recorder first came out it was very well liked and 
> regarded, but I just checked on the app store and while it's still there for 
> $0.99, it hasn't been updated since November 2013 when the latest "What's 
> New" description was "iOS 7 compatibility". It would appear that the 
> developer has abandoned the project since I am sure List Recorder which can 
> also do text notes could benefit from using share extensions. I guess one 
> could say that why fix something that isn't broke so if the app works it 
> works, but it is nice to see updates every now and then. I personally rarely 
> buy an app or download a free one which hasn't been updated for several years.
> I wonder if one could search the millions of apps and filter out all apps 
> which haven't been updated say for 2 years how many would be left and also 
> whether Apple has some sort of rule according to which apps which haven't 
> been updated for a certain time are taken off the store.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 12:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: recording apps
> 
> Hi,
> 
> List Recorder can make long recordings, and you can record in mono or stereo, 
> in compressed or uncompressed formats. You can also save recordings to 
> Dropbox.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> .
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 8, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>> 
>> coming over from Android I used an app called hi-q mp3 recorder. there is an 
>> app that calls itself hi-q in the app store, but it's not the same or even 
>> close. So I'm wondering what you all recommend for recording? Hi-q would 
>> allow me to make unlimited recordings with no time limits and manually 
>> upload them to drop box. I have tried a few on IOS, but they don't seem to 
>> be accessible. A couple of them silence speech when recording making it 
>> impossible to stop recording. Any suggestions of things to try?
>> 
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RE: recording apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I used to have List Recorder, but when I want to record something I prefer a 
very simple solution and I would agree with the recommendation for Dropvox. I 
remember when List Recorder first came out it was very well liked and regarded, 
but I just checked on the app store and while it's still there for $0.99, it 
hasn't been updated since November 2013 when the latest "What's New" 
description was "iOS 7 compatibility". It would appear that the developer has 
abandoned the project since I am sure List Recorder which can also do text 
notes could benefit from using share extensions. I guess one could say that why 
fix something that isn't broke so if the app works it works, but it is nice to 
see updates every now and then. I personally rarely buy an app or download a 
free one which hasn't been updated for several years.
I wonder if one could search the millions of apps and filter out all apps which 
haven't been updated say for 2 years how many would be left and also whether 
Apple has some sort of rule according to which apps which haven't been updated 
for a certain time are taken off the store.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: recording apps

Hi,

List Recorder can make long recordings, and you can record in mono or stereo, 
in compressed or uncompressed formats. You can also save recordings to Dropbox.

Best,
Anna
.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 8, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> coming over from Android I used an app called hi-q mp3 recorder. there is an 
> app that calls itself hi-q in the app store, but it's not the same or even 
> close. So I'm wondering what you all recommend for recording? Hi-q would 
> allow me to make unlimited recordings with no time limits and manually upload 
> them to drop box. I have tried a few on IOS, but they don't seem to be 
> accessible. A couple of them silence speech when recording making it 
> impossible to stop recording. Any suggestions of things to try?
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Re: Siri

[John Panarese]

  I agree. SIRI is actually pretty amazing. You can have her do more than just 
text messages or emails. You can set up appointments with her and check your 
calendar. I use SIRI all the time and was not impressed with competitors in my 
experience. She’s not perfect, but nothing is.


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> On Jun 8, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Devin,
> 
> Despite its limitations, SIRI can deliver the actual dividend yield of
> a stock on a major exchange, something that Hound and Google cannot
> do.  SIRI can also deliver granular weather data  much more accessibly
> than Hound or Google.  Also, converting currency or measurement units,
> such as imperial measures to metric are a snap with SIRI.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> On 6/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> I agree. I *never* use Siri for much. I usually just set alarms and the
>> time. Otherwise, I just pull out the phone and do whatever needs
>> done. Siri isn't yet accurate enough for texting and emailing for me.
>> "Marie"  writes:
>> 
>>> I am probably going to be unpopular when I say this but...
>>> Are we wanting to depend too much on the personal assistants these
>>> days. It seems that some want them to do everything for them instead
>>> of keeping our skills up by doing some things on our own? I am happy
>>> to use dictation when I want to whip up a text message without taking
>>> too long but if I need further communication, either the phone or
>>> email is much better and I do it without any personal assistant
>>> intervening.
>>> Tools which make our life easier are fine but I think there is a limit
>>> to what they need to do. JMT
>>> Marie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:53 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri
>>> 
>>> As I understand it, in iOS 10, Siri gets greatly improved and you
>>> should be able to talk to her just like talking to a neighbor or
>>> friend.  Personally, I'm just waiting to see that for myself.  I do
>>> know this though.  Sooner or later it will happen.
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>> 
 On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Deidre Muccio
  wrote:
 
 Can someone explain the difference between series recognition of a
 question and a search engine like you to who you can speak naturally
 two, ask a question with very loose language and it comes up with
 very accurate results?
 
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Re: Siri

[Kelly Pierce]

Devin,

Despite its limitations, SIRI can deliver the actual dividend yield of
a stock on a major exchange, something that Hound and Google cannot
do.  SIRI can also deliver granular weather data  much more accessibly
than Hound or Google.  Also, converting currency or measurement units,
such as imperial measures to metric are a snap with SIRI.

Kelly

On 6/8/16, Devin Prater  wrote:
> I agree. I *never* use Siri for much. I usually just set alarms and the
> time. Otherwise, I just pull out the phone and do whatever needs
> done. Siri isn't yet accurate enough for texting and emailing for me.
> "Marie"  writes:
>
>> I am probably going to be unpopular when I say this but...
>> Are we wanting to depend too much on the personal assistants these
>> days. It seems that some want them to do everything for them instead
>> of keeping our skills up by doing some things on our own? I am happy
>> to use dictation when I want to whip up a text message without taking
>> too long but if I need further communication, either the phone or
>> email is much better and I do it without any personal assistant
>> intervening.
>> Tools which make our life easier are fine but I think there is a limit
>> to what they need to do. JMT
>> Marie
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri
>>
>> As I understand it, in iOS 10, Siri gets greatly improved and you
>> should be able to talk to her just like talking to a neighbor or
>> friend.  Personally, I'm just waiting to see that for myself.  I do
>> know this though.  Sooner or later it will happen.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Deidre Muccio
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Can someone explain the difference between series recognition of a
>>> question and a search engine like you to who you can speak naturally
>>> two, ask a question with very loose language and it comes up with
>>> very accurate results?
>>>
>>> Deidre
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Re: Siri

[Devin Prater]

I agree. I *never* use Siri for much. I usually just set alarms and the
time. Otherwise, I just pull out the phone and do whatever needs
done. Siri isn't yet accurate enough for texting and emailing for me.
"Marie"  writes:

> I am probably going to be unpopular when I say this but...
> Are we wanting to depend too much on the personal assistants these
> days. It seems that some want them to do everything for them instead
> of keeping our skills up by doing some things on our own? I am happy
> to use dictation when I want to whip up a text message without taking
> too long but if I need further communication, either the phone or
> email is much better and I do it without any personal assistant
> intervening.
> Tools which make our life easier are fine but I think there is a limit
> to what they need to do. JMT
> Marie
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri
>
> As I understand it, in iOS 10, Siri gets greatly improved and you
> should be able to talk to her just like talking to a neighbor or
> friend.  Personally, I'm just waiting to see that for myself.  I do
> know this though.  Sooner or later it will happen.
>
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPad Air
>
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Deidre Muccio
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Can someone explain the difference between series recognition of a
>> question and a search engine like you to who you can speak naturally
>> two, ask a question with very loose language and it comes up with
>> very accurate results?
>>
>> Deidre
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Re: RENAMING PICTURES

[Richard Turner]

Hi Carol,
I've not had that experience.
I hear the name I have given it when I go through the list of photos.
Are you opening the photo before you label it?
Richard


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> On Jun 8, 2016, at 10:21 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> 
> That's OK with me, but I do notice that sometimes the description doesn't 
> appear until you open up the photo, which (if you're just looking for one) is 
> a bit inconvenient. What do you think?
> 
> Carol P, sent from Braille Sense
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner  
> To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
> CC: 
> Date: Wednesday, 8 June 2016 1.31 pm
> Subject: Re: RENAMING PICTURES
> 
>> 
>> 
>> One more observation. As far as I know, Apple does not allow anyone to 
>> change the actual filename on their device, only the description via the 
>> two-finger-double-tap-and-hold.
>> I could have said that in my first message, but I've known that so long that 
>> I didn't think to mention it.
>> If folks want to be able to change the filenames to something meaningful, 
>> they need to write Apple feedback since that isn't a VoiceOver issue, it is 
>> an iOS issue.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> ";The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  
>> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues."--Elizabeth Taylor
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>> 
>> On Jun 8, 2016, at 5.14 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Grant. Richards two fingered double tap and hold is working okay for 
>> me at the moment anyway but I appreciate your response!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>> 
>> On 8 Jun 2016, at 03.11, Grant  wrote:
>> 
>> If you use a Mac and you've enabled iCloud Photo Library, you can assign 
>> descriptions to photos in the Photos App on your Mac. These will be 
>> reflected when browsing pictures on your iPhone. I'm not aware of any other 
>> way to do this using the native photos library.
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
> 0was On Monday May 30, 2016, at 5.15.16 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 0was 
> 0wasI'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to 
> rename photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've found 
> have worked well and which are not worth the money?
> 0was 
> 0was 
> 0was I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been 
> updated for at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple 
> world and I'd like to find something, not overly complicated that has 
> features I ccan use and does the job well.
> 0was 
> 0was 
> 0was I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
> daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
> currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay that 
> way.
> 0was 
> 0was 
> 0was Thanks for any help in this respect.
> 0was 
> 0was 
> 0was Carol P
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Re: RENAMING PICTURES

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Caitlin,

My problem is that I don't use a Mac, and I really want to keep the photos on 
my phone and preferably in the camera roll, rather than my dropbox. Once you 
move them to dropbox, it appears that you cannot put them back in the camera 
roll as such, because you have renamed them in dropbox.

Anyway, I have now written to The access team with my comments and hope they 
will think of a more suitable fix for us!



Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 8 Jun 2016, at 19:11, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:

What I do is to email the picture to myself, then save it on my mac and then 
rename it from the mac..

hth,
Caitlyn

> On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for the tip. I've successfully assigned labels to several pictures in 
> my camera roll.  While this method is certainly useful for helping me keep 
> track of which photo is which, I should point out that  it doesn't actually 
> rename the file itself, as I discovered when I e-mailed a picture to a buddy 
> of mine. The file that he received as an attachment was called "img084.jpg" 
> or something like that. It would be really great if there was a way to rename 
> the file rather than update VoiceOver's graphics dictionary, if there is such 
> a beast.
> Tom 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I've not used any of the apps. I use the two-finger-double-tap-and-hold 
>> gesture to name photos.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> “The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be 
>> pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
>> Elizabeth Taylor
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 9:30 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This didn't appear to make it so here goes again! Apologies if you have 
>>> seen it before!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: Carol Pearson 
>>> Date: 30 May 2016 at 13:15:16 BST
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
>>> Subject: RENAMING PICTURES
>>> Reply-To: carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
>>> 
>>>I'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to 
>>> rename photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've 
>>> found have worked well and which are not worth the money?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated 
>>> for at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world 
>>> and I'd like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I 
>>> ccan use and does the job well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
>>> daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
>>> currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay 
>>> that way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help in this respect.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
>>> 
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FS: 42mm Apple Watch with link bracelet, and magnetic charging dock, asking $750 or best offer

[Daniel Miller]

Hi list. I've gotten permission to post the following items for sale. I have a 
42 mm Apple Watch, stainless steel casing with link bracelet. The watch was 
bought in July of last year, and is in excellent condition. It also includes 
the Apple Watch magnetic charging dock, plus a little over one year of 
AppleCare remaining. I'm asking $750, or best offer. If anybody is interested, 
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I'm asking that any prospective buyers please be in the United States. I accept 
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Re: recording apps

[Shai]

Hi,
There is also the native Voice Memos app. You could use this to record
and upload the files to Dropbox. The files are recorded as m4a if that
makes any difference. As far as I know, there is no time limit on the
recording.


On 6/8/16, Gordon  wrote:
> coming over from Android I used an app called hi-q mp3 recorder. there
> is an app that calls itself hi-q in the app store, but it's not the same
> or even close. So I'm wondering what you all recommend for recording?
> Hi-q would allow me to make unlimited recordings with no time limits and
> manually upload them to drop box. I have tried a few on IOS, but they
> don't seem to be accessible. A couple of them silence speech when
> recording making it impossible to stop recording. Any suggestions of
> things to try?
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Re: recording apps

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

List Recorder can make long recordings, and you can record in mono or stereo, 
in compressed or uncompressed formats. You can also save recordings to Dropbox.

Best,
Anna
.

Sent from my iPhone

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> app that calls itself hi-q in the app store, but it's not the same or even 
> close. So I'm wondering what you all recommend for recording? Hi-q would 
> allow me to make unlimited recordings with no time limits and manually upload 
> them to drop box. I have tried a few on IOS, but they don't seem to be 
> accessible. A couple of them silence speech when recording making it 
> impossible to stop recording. Any suggestions of things to try?
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Re: recording apps

[Gerardo Corripio]

 AudioMemos is the best! at least that's what I use on my IPhone 4s. 
Good luck!


El 08/06/2016 02:36 p.m., Gordon escribió:
coming over from Android I used an app called hi-q mp3 recorder. there 
is an app that calls itself hi-q in the app store, but it's not the 
same or even close. So I'm wondering what you all recommend for 
recording? Hi-q would allow me to make unlimited recordings with no 
time limits and manually upload them to drop box. I have tried a few 
on IOS, but they don't seem to be accessible. A couple of them silence 
speech when recording making it impossible to stop recording. Any 
suggestions of things to try?




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Re: recording apps

[Brandon Olivares]

I use Dropvox. It automatically uploads recordings to Dropbox. And, I don’t 
think there’s a recording limit. I’ve recorded for an hour at a time before 
without an issue.

You just double tap the button to start recording, then double tap again to 
stop.

Brandon
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> app that calls itself hi-q in the app store, but it's not the same or even 
> close. So I'm wondering what you all recommend for recording? Hi-q would 
> allow me to make unlimited recordings with no time limits and manually upload 
> them to drop box. I have tried a few on IOS, but they don't seem to be 
> accessible. A couple of them silence speech when recording making it 
> impossible to stop recording. Any suggestions of things to try?
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recording apps

[Gordon]

coming over from Android I used an app called hi-q mp3 recorder. there 
is an app that calls itself hi-q in the app store, but it's not the same 
or even close. So I'm wondering what you all recommend for recording? 
Hi-q would allow me to make unlimited recordings with no time limits and 
manually upload them to drop box. I have tried a few on IOS, but they 
don't seem to be accessible. A couple of them silence speech when 
recording making it impossible to stop recording. Any suggestions of 
things to try?


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Some Info on The PayPal PrePaid Mastercard App for iOS

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,  

I am cross-posting this to let you know that the PayPal Prepaid Mastercard
App for iOS is more than reasonably VoiceOver accessible.  There are two
VoiceOver bugs that are immediately obvious. 

1.
The primary menu button, located in the upper left corner of the display, is
not labeled; it just reads as, "button."  

2.
It is sometimes necessary to perform a single-finger, double-tap and hold
gesture in order to activate items labeled as links.

Other than these two items, all of the information one needs, in order to
conveniently manage the card account, is accessible.  

I have submitted a bug report to the developer and, hopefully, these bugs
will be addressed in future releases.  

Please note that I am referring only to the PayPal Prepaid Mastercard and
not to the PayPal Debit card.

Just in case some are wondering, the PayPal Prepaid Mastercard is a secured
debit card.  This is to say, one must load money onto the card, either
online or at a local market, such as 7 Eleven in order to use it.  

There are several reasons for using such a card.  Some use these kinds of
cards because they either have no established credit line or bank account or
have a very bad credit history which prevents them from obtaining a
traditional revolving credit card account.  It should be noted, however,
that prepaid cards will not, unless explicitly stated in the terms of use
agreement, help either establish or improve one's credit score.   

Another reason, which is why I have one, is because one does not want to
give an untrusted vendor access to a revolving credit line or bank account,
such as would be the case if one were to use a standard debit or credit
card.  

As a scenario as to why one may consider using a prepaid card, and this has
happened to me in the distant past, a vendor was only supposed to charge me
a fee, once.  However, the vendor began billing me monthly.  While I
eventually received a refund for the unauthorized charges, I had to both
file a credit dispute and cancel the account.  The real inconvenience came
when I found myself having to update several trusted online vendors with the
new credit card number.  

Remember, a prepaid card can only be charged up to the amount loaded on the
account.

So, in the above scenario, assuming that I had funded the card only up to
the amount that I was to pay the vendor, subsequent billing attempts would
have been denied.  Assuming that I had received notifications of the failed
attempts, I could have investigated the problem, before money was taken.
Even in the event that subsequent unauthorized charges had gone through,
however, I could have cancelled the card without having to update all of my
online accounts, assuming that I had not used the prepaid card for them.

You should know that while there are no interest charges associated with
prepaid cards, there are, however, associated fees that, depending on the
brand of the card, can make using the card unreasonably expensive.

The prepaid card market has exploded in recent years; so much so that even
major banks such as Chase are offering such accounts.  

If you are considering a prepaid card, be sure to shop around and make
certain that you thoroughly understand the fees associated with using the
card.

Just so there is no confusion, I am, in no way, promoting/recommending
prepaids cards to anyone.  I am merely providing feedback on the current
VoiceOver accessibility of the PayPal Prepaid Mastercard App, for iOS and
describing a scenario in which the outcome would have been different if such
an instrument had been used.

Mark

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Re: Command for showing and hiding keyboard with braille display

[Devin Prater]

One more thing. If the virtual keyboard is display while using a braille 
display, it is much easier to use spelling corrections when "check spelling" is 
enabled in keyboard settings. Just backspace the space from the word you want 
to correct, and the focus is automatically brought to the menu. This is one of 
the reasons I have the keyboard shown.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 8, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If the onscreen keyboard isn't showing up for some reason and you don't have 
> access to a hardware keyboard, restarting the phone brings it back. It's 
> annoying to have to do that, but at least there's a way to get it back if you 
> don't have a keyboard handy.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 8, 2016, at 1:16 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> Note that if you hide the keyboard, and then use your iOS device
>> without the Braille display, the virtual keyboard may still be hidden.
>> At least this is how it works when using a Bluetooth wireless
>> keyboard. The virtual keyboard does not appear again until you use
>> that same command mentioned to show the keyboard. This can be
>> concerning for someone who doesn't know what's going on, which is why
>> I mention it here as a friendly reminder.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 6/8/16, Scott Davert  wrote:
>>> TO add to what Anna said, it's a toggle, meaning that if it's hidden
>>> and you want it to show up, press the command, then press it again
>>> when you wish for the virtual keyboard to go away.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
 On 6/8/16, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
 Hi Rebecca,
 
 It's SH-chord for Show, Space with dots 1-4-6.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
 
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 6:55 AM, rebeccajacks...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Was just wondering what the braille display command is for showing and
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> Rebecca
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Re: Command for showing and hiding keyboard with braille display

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

If the onscreen keyboard isn't showing up for some reason and you don't have 
access to a hardware keyboard, restarting the phone brings it back. It's 
annoying to have to do that, but at least there's a way to get it back if you 
don't have a keyboard handy.

Best,
Anna



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> 
> Note that if you hide the keyboard, and then use your iOS device
> without the Braille display, the virtual keyboard may still be hidden.
> At least this is how it works when using a Bluetooth wireless
> keyboard. The virtual keyboard does not appear again until you use
> that same command mentioned to show the keyboard. This can be
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> I mention it here as a friendly reminder.
> 
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>> TO add to what Anna said, it's a toggle, meaning that if it's hidden
>> and you want it to show up, press the command, then press it again
>> when you wish for the virtual keyboard to go away.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 6/8/16, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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>>> 
>>> It's SH-chord for Show, Space with dots 1-4-6.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
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Re: Command for showing and hiding keyboard with braille display

[Wayne Merritt]

Note that if you hide the keyboard, and then use your iOS device
without the Braille display, the virtual keyboard may still be hidden.
At least this is how it works when using a Bluetooth wireless
keyboard. The virtual keyboard does not appear again until you use
that same command mentioned to show the keyboard. This can be
concerning for someone who doesn't know what's going on, which is why
I mention it here as a friendly reminder.

Wayne

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> TO add to what Anna said, it's a toggle, meaning that if it's hidden
> and you want it to show up, press the command, then press it again
> when you wish for the virtual keyboard to go away.
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> Scott
>
> On 6/8/16, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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>> It's SH-chord for Show, Space with dots 1-4-6.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
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>>
>>
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Re: RENAMING PICTURES

[Caitlyn Furness]

What I do is to email the picture to myself, then save it on my mac and then 
rename it from the mac..

hth,
Caitlyn

> On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for the tip. I've successfully assigned labels to several pictures in 
> my camera roll.  While this method is certainly useful for helping me keep 
> track of which photo is which, I should point out that  it doesn't actually 
> rename the file itself, as I discovered when I e-mailed a picture to a buddy 
> of mine. The file that he received as an attachment was called "img084.jpg" 
> or something like that. It would be really great if there was a way to rename 
> the file rather than update VoiceOver's graphics dictionary, if there is such 
> a beast.
> Tom 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 3, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Richard Turner  > wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I've not used any of the apps. I use the two-finger-double-tap-and-hold 
>> gesture to name photos.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> “The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be 
>> pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
>> Elizabeth Taylor
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 9:30 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>> This didn't appear to make it so here goes again! Apologies if you have 
>>> seen it before!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: Carol Pearson >> >
>>> Date: 30 May 2016 at 13:15:16 BST
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com " 
>>> >
>>> Subject: RENAMING PICTURES
>>> Reply-To: carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>I'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to 
>>> rename photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've 
>>> found have worked well and which are not worth the money?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated 
>>> for at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world 
>>> and I'd like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I 
>>> ccan use and does the job well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
>>> daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
>>> currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay 
>>> that way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help in this respect.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
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Re: Command for showing and hiding keyboard with braille display

[Scott Davert]

TO add to what Anna said, it's a toggle, meaning that if it's hidden
and you want it to show up, press the command, then press it again
when you wish for the virtual keyboard to go away.

Scott

On 6/8/16, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> It's SH-chord for Show, Space with dots 1-4-6.
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> Best,
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Re: Command for showing and hiding keyboard with braille display

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Rebecca,

It's SH-chord for Show, Space with dots 1-4-6.

Best,
Anna



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Re: RENAMING PICTURES

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Richard,

That's OK with me, but I do notice that sometimes the description doesn't 
appear until you open up the photo, which (if you're just looking for one) is a 
bit inconvenient. What do you think?

Carol P, sent from Braille Sense


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To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Wednesday, 8 June 2016 1.31 pm
Subject: Re: RENAMING PICTURES

>
>
> One more observation. As far as I know, Apple does not allow anyone to change 
> the actual filename on their device, only the description via the 
> two-finger-double-tap-and-hold.
> I could have said that in my first message, but I've known that so long that 
> I didn't think to mention it.
> If folks want to be able to change the filenames to something meaningful, 
> they need to write Apple feedback since that isn't a VoiceOver issue, it is 
> an iOS issue.
> Richard
> 
> 
> ";The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  
> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues."--Elizabeth Taylor
> 
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> 
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 5.14 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Grant. Richards two fingered double tap and hold is working okay for 
> me at the moment anyway but I appreciate your response!
> 
> 
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 8 Jun 2016, at 03.11, Grant  wrote:
> 
> If you use a Mac and you've enabled iCloud Photo Library, you can assign 
> descriptions to photos in the Photos App on your Mac. These will be reflected 
> when browsing pictures on your iPhone. I'm not aware of any other way to do 
> this using the native photos library.
> 
> Grant
> 
0was On Monday May 30, 2016, at 5.15.16 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
0was 
0wasI'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to 
rename photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've found 
have worked well and which are not worth the money?
0was 
0was 
0was I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated 
for at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world and 
I'd like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I ccan use 
and does the job well.
0was 
0was 
0was I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay that 
way.
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0was Thanks for any help in this respect.
0was 
0was 
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Command for showing and hiding keyboard with braille display

[rebeccajackson5]

Hi All
Was just wondering what the braille display command is for showing and hiding 
the keyboard. Thanks
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Re: Strange sonos issue

[Krister Ekstrom]

Last comment for now, i hope.
Yes the message refers to the controler rather than the firmware, at first, 
Sonos says that a new controller app is available and gives me a cancel and an 
update button. When i press the update button Sonos briefly says searching for 
update and then comes back with a dialog that the system doesn’t need to be 
updated cause it’s the latest version and an ok button.
/Krister

> 8 juni 2016 kl. 17:40 skrev Neil Barnfather :
> 
> Krister,
> 
> Two things, sometimes Sonos Beta Apps appear as a separate second App, check 
> your home screen pages for a second one, as it maybe simply that you are 
> launching the old version… Keep in mind that the message to update may relate 
> to either your controller App or the FW on the units themselves.
> 
> You also need to press on “learn more” when you are prompted with the update 
> messages not done or other button.
> 
> So I’m guessing that the issue is either that the update message refers to 
> the iOS App rather than the FW, or, you are using a version of the App which 
> is older than another version which has been installed on your device.
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>> On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:23, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
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>> Hi, I’m having a strange issue with my Sonos and i wonder if anyone has had 
>> a similar experience:
>> I have updated my Sonos to the latest public beta and now it keeps nagging 
>> at me that there’s an update to the app available, only when i press the 
>> ”update now” button, i immediately get a dialog informing me that no update 
>> is necessary and that the system is up to date. What gives here?
>> /Krister
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Re: Strange sonos issue

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
I’ve just looked through my phone again and there’s no separate Beta app. It’s 
weird.
/Krister

> 8 juni 2016 kl. 17:40 skrev Neil Barnfather :
> 
> Krister,
> 
> Two things, sometimes Sonos Beta Apps appear as a separate second App, check 
> your home screen pages for a second one, as it maybe simply that you are 
> launching the old version… Keep in mind that the message to update may relate 
> to either your controller App or the FW on the units themselves.
> 
> You also need to press on “learn more” when you are prompted with the update 
> messages not done or other button.
> 
> So I’m guessing that the issue is either that the update message refers to 
> the iOS App rather than the FW, or, you are using a version of the App which 
> is older than another version which has been installed on your device.
> 
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> 
> 
>> On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:23, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I’m having a strange issue with my Sonos and i wonder if anyone has had 
>> a similar experience:
>> I have updated my Sonos to the latest public beta and now it keeps nagging 
>> at me that there’s an update to the app available, only when i press the 
>> ”update now” button, i immediately get a dialog informing me that no update 
>> is necessary and that the system is up to date. What gives here?
>> /Krister
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Re: Strange sonos issue

[Krister Ekstrom]

I would think it was like that, only that doesn’t appear to be the case. 
There’s no ”learn more” button either when the dialog pops up nor when the 
search is finished. There may be a newer app somewhere, i’ll have to search for 
it on my phone, i haven’t done that.
Thanks for the answer.
/Krister

> 8 juni 2016 kl. 17:40 skrev Neil Barnfather :
> 
> Krister,
> 
> Two things, sometimes Sonos Beta Apps appear as a separate second App, check 
> your home screen pages for a second one, as it maybe simply that you are 
> launching the old version… Keep in mind that the message to update may relate 
> to either your controller App or the FW on the units themselves.
> 
> You also need to press on “learn more” when you are prompted with the update 
> messages not done or other button.
> 
> So I’m guessing that the issue is either that the update message refers to 
> the iOS App rather than the FW, or, you are using a version of the App which 
> is older than another version which has been installed on your device.
> 
> Neil Barnfather MBE
> www.NeilBarnfather.com
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> spokesperson.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:23, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I’m having a strange issue with my Sonos and i wonder if anyone has had 
>> a similar experience:
>> I have updated my Sonos to the latest public beta and now it keeps nagging 
>> at me that there’s an update to the app available, only when i press the 
>> ”update now” button, i immediately get a dialog informing me that no update 
>> is necessary and that the system is up to date. What gives here?
>> /Krister
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Re: Strange sonos issue

[Neil Barnfather]

Krister,

Two things, sometimes Sonos Beta Apps appear as a separate second App, check 
your home screen pages for a second one, as it maybe simply that you are 
launching the old version… Keep in mind that the message to update may relate 
to either your controller App or the FW on the units themselves.

You also need to press on “learn more” when you are prompted with the update 
messages not done or other button.

So I’m guessing that the issue is either that the update message refers to the 
iOS App rather than the FW, or, you are using a version of the App which is 
older than another version which has been installed on your device.

Neil Barnfather MBE
www.NeilBarnfather.com
Business Consultant & Disability Advocate

Visit my web-site to learn more about my range of services covering a selection 
of business consultancy functions to a complete series of disability advocacy 
roles. All delivered personally by one of the UK’s most successful disabled 
entrepreneurs and established, recognised disabled spokesperson.




> On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:23, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I’m having a strange issue with my Sonos and i wonder if anyone has had a 
> similar experience:
> I have updated my Sonos to the latest public beta and now it keeps nagging at 
> me that there’s an update to the app available, only when i press the ”update 
> now” button, i immediately get a dialog informing me that no update is 
> necessary and that the system is up to date. What gives here?
> /Krister
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Re: RENAMING PICTURES

[Richard Turner]

One more observation. As far as I know, Apple does not allow anyone to change 
the actual filename on their device, only the description via the 
two-finger-double-tap-and-hold.
I could have said that in my first message, but I've known that so long that I 
didn't think to mention it.
If folks want to be able to change the filenames to something meaningful, they 
need to write Apple feedback since that isn't a VoiceOver issue, it is an iOS 
issue.
Richard


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> On Jun 8, 2016, at 5:14 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Grant. Richards two fingered double tap and hold is working okay for 
> me at the moment anyway but I appreciate your response!
> 
> 
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
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> On 8 Jun 2016, at 03:11, Grant  wrote:
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> If you use a Mac and you’ve enabled iCloud Photo Library, you can assign 
> descriptions to photos in the Photos App on your Mac. These will be reflected 
> when browsing pictures on your iPhone. I’m not aware of any other way to do 
> this using the native photos library.
> 
> Grant
> 
>> On Monday May 30, 2016, at 5:15:16 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
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>> 
>>I'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to 
>> rename photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've found 
>> have worked well and which are not worth the money?
>> 
>> 
>> I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated 
>> for at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world 
>> and I'd like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I 
>> ccan use and does the job well.
>> 
>> 
>> I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
>> daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
>> currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay 
>> that way.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for any help in this respect.
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
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Re: RENAMING PICTURES

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Thanks, Grant. Richards two fingered double tap and hold is working okay for me 
at the moment anyway but I appreciate your response!



Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 8 Jun 2016, at 03:11, Grant  wrote:

If you use a Mac and you’ve enabled iCloud Photo Library, you can assign 
descriptions to photos in the Photos App on your Mac. These will be reflected 
when browsing pictures on your iPhone. I’m not aware of any other way to do 
this using the native photos library.

Grant

> On Monday May 30, 2016, at 5:15:16 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
>I'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to rename 
> photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've found have 
> worked well and which are not worth the money?
> 
> 
> I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated for 
> at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world and 
> I'd like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I ccan 
> use and does the job well.
> 
> 
> I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
> daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
> currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay that 
> way.
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help in this respect.
> 
> 
> Carol P

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RE: Changing my CC #

[Debbie Downey]

Hi Sieghard,

 

As usual, this was a very thorough explanation that I appreciate more than you 
know. I haven’t tried to actually do it yet but I’m sure it will work for me!

 

Thanks again. I think this is a step by step explanation that everyone should 
keep on file.

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 1:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Changing my CC #

 

Hi Debbie,

 

Yes, you can change your credit card number on your iPhone 5S very easily, here 
is how:

 

1.   Open the App Store

2.   Make sure the “Featured” tab at the bottom left is selected

3.   Again make sure focus is on that tab, then swipe left twice which 
should put you on “Apple Id” followed by your Apple Id email. Double tap on that

4.   A menu pops up with the following choices: View Apple Id, Sign Out, I 
forget, Cancel

5.   Double tap on “View Apple Id”, you will be asked for your Apple Id 
password, enter it and double tap “OK”.

6.   After a moment a new screen comes up which has the heading “Account” 
at the top and a “Done” button at the top right

If you swipe right from that Done button, you find the following items (they 
are all links or explanations):

 

Apple Id, link

Your Apple Id email, link

Then it explains: Editing your Apple Id and Password will take you to

AppleID.apple.com, link

Swipe right some more and you find:

Family Sharing, link

Payment Information, link

Country/region, link

Explanation that follows says: This country/region is shared by your family. To 
change it, you must first leave your family.

Gifts, link

Ratings and reviews, link

Subscriptions (this is a heading level 2)

Manage, link (this refers to managing your subscriptions)

iTunes in the Cloud (another heading level 2)

Remove this device, link

Explanation: This device can be used with automatic downloads and can also 
download previously purchased music, movies, TV shows, apps and books.

iTunes Pass (another heading level 2)

Add iTunes pass to wallet, link

Easily add money to your account using wallet at participating retailers. Add 
iTunes Pass, then show it to the casheer when you check out.

iTunes Newsletters and Special Offers (another heading level 2)

Manage, link (this refers to the newsletters and special offers)

A final explanation at the bottom: Apple uses industry standard encryption to 
protect the confidentially of your personal information.

Lastly, two more links for “Terms of Service” and “Privacy Policy”.

 

7.   Obviously you want to double tap on the link for “Payment Information”.

8.   On the screen that follows you have a “Cancel” button at the top left, 
the “Account” heading in the middle and the “Done” button at the top right.

The first item after the Done button is an explanation: All family members 
share the payment method shown below. Codes you redeem will be applied only to 
your individual account.

After that comes a heading level 2: Payment Type

In my case, I have 3 radio buttons: Visa, Mastercard and Amex, Voiceover will 
clearly tell you which one is checked.

Next comes another heading level 2: Payment Card

Card number: Voiceover will read what is currently there as “4 bullets, 4 
bullets, 4 bullets and then the last 4 digits of the card you are currently 
using. It’s a text field so you can double tap on it and enter a new number.

Next comes the security code and Voiceover tells you it’s required. This is a 
text field and you have to double tap on it to put focus there so you can enter 
your 3-digit card verification code (4 digits for Amex).

Now comes another heading level 2: Expiration date

Swipe right and you hear “Month, bullet bullet, pop up button. Swipe right and 
you get year, 4 bullets, pop up button.

Double tap on either one and focus is placed on a picker control and you can 
flick down with one finger, it starts at 12 (December) and each flick down goes 
down to the previous month. The one for the year works the same. Once you 
selected you rmonth and year, flick left to the “Done” button and double tap it.

 

9.   Unless you also have to change your billing address which is what 
comes next, you are now done and you can double tap on the “Done” button at the 
top right.

10.   This takes you back to the main screen, double tap “Done” again at the 
top right and you are now back in the “Featured” tab of the App Store.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Debbie Downey
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Changing my CC #

 

Hi all,

 

I need to make changes to my credit card information; can I do this from my 5S 
or do I have to go through Itunes?

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

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Re: Siri, YouTube

[Deidre Muccio]

That is a very complicated question for Siri. You might've done better to add 
something more general like give me the names of a few towns in New Zealand in 
a certain region and specify that region and then men maybe if you're lucky she 
would come up with a list of names or sent you to a website about all about New 
Zealand and that particular region you are funny though. In fact if you were to 
ask Siri how funny you were or if you were funny see what she might have to say 
if she had a memory about the kinds of questions you asked then she might 
actually have something clever to say.

Deidre


> On Jun 7, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Jewel  wrote:
> 
> I have just done that and speaking as clearly as I could, I asked Siri to:
> "Search Google for the spelling of the New Zealand town Kaiteretere" 
> [pronounced Kie Terry Terry]. 
> what returned was "Cannot find a New Zealand town called can I titty titty" 
> so I tried again adding, 
> this time, that it was a Maori name.  The answer came back:  "Cannot find a 
> New Zealand town called 
> Kite Titty Titty.
> Now I thought that being told that it was a Maori word would have told the 
> search engine that the 
> word could not have a Y in it, let alone 2, as the Maori language does not 
> contain that letter.
> I ha'e ma doots that a paper letter addressed to Can I Titty Titty would have 
> been delivered to any 
> letterbox in Kaiteretere.
> 
> We do have a dairy-farming area called Waikikamukau[ pronounced why kick a 
> moo cow" which has always 
> struck me as rather apt, given the nature of the region, and the answer to 
> the question could be:  " 
> because it deserved it!"
> 
>  Jewel
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> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 2:16 AM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: Siri, YouTube
> 
> All you have to do to get SIRI to bring up google results instead of Bing 
> results is say "Search 
> Google for" followed by what you want to search for.
> 
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