Re: Be My Eyes

[Jewel]

Jim!  When the program says "connecting with the first available contact, it 
does need an action on your part.  About halfway up on the righthand edge, you 
will find a button that you have to tap to complete the connection and you 
should hear something like "request being actioned".
It all will take 2 or 3 minutes to complete.
In the past, I have had a successful connection  with a woman in Thailand, but 
she, or I thought so anyway, had an Australian accent.
  Jewel


From: Jim Portillo 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Be My Eyes


Here’s another question about this app.

Every time I try to get a connection, it’s almost as if doesn’t even go 
through.  It basically cuts me off immediately.  What am I doing wrong?  I’ve 
tried looking at the settings, but nothing really comes up that could help me.

Jim

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My Eyes

 

Hi Jewel,

 

I used Be my Eyes for the first time a couple of days ago when I was trying to 
get past a captcha in the middle of the night when my wife was sleeping. After 
it rang for a bit it just sat there and I think said something about 
connecting, but it took probably a good 2 or 3 minutes before  very nice young 
lady with good English but a Russian accent picked up. She read the captcha for 
me in no time and while I was close, I was a bit wrong as she was from the 
Ucraine and not Russia.

If Be my Eyes doesn’t work you can also try the app “Crowdvis” or “Crowdviz” 
not totally sure how it’s spelled.

Sheep are not a problem here, but I usually do have some moose in my backyard 
in the fall/early winter. They stop by to eat the apples on my apple tree and 
more rarely a black bear may wonder in as well.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My Eyes

 

 

Has anyone used BME recently?  I needed a pair of eyes in the head of a person 
who could tell me if I had some sheep in the backyard.
The program made a connection, but there was no reply.
>From listening to the call sound, it seems to me that it goes in  cycles of 9 
>rings.  After each 9, there is a slight pause before it starts again.
of course, I don't know if it then tries another number, but I waited through 
many cycles before I tried to disconnect and that wasn't easy!  Once it had me 
on the line, it seemed that it was loath to let me go.

 

 Jewel

 

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RE: Be My Eyes

[Jim Portillo]

Here’s another question about this app.

Every time I try to get a connection, it’s almost as if doesn’t even go 
through.  It basically cuts me off immediately.  What am I doing wrong?  I’ve 
tried looking at the settings, but nothing really comes up that could help me.

Jim

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My Eyes

 

Hi Jewel,

 

I used Be my Eyes for the first time a couple of days ago when I was trying to 
get past a captcha in the middle of the night when my wife was sleeping. After 
it rang for a bit it just sat there and I think said something about 
connecting, but it took probably a good 2 or 3 minutes before  very nice young 
lady with good English but a Russian accent picked up. She read the captcha for 
me in no time and while I was close, I was a bit wrong as she was from the 
Ucraine and not Russia.

If Be my Eyes doesn’t work you can also try the app “Crowdvis” or “Crowdviz” 
not totally sure how it’s spelled.

Sheep are not a problem here, but I usually do have some moose in my backyard 
in the fall/early winter. They stop by to eat the apples on my apple tree and 
more rarely a black bear may wonder in as well.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Be My Eyes

 

 

Has anyone used BME recently?  I needed a pair of eyes in the head of a person 
who could tell me if I had some sheep in the backyard.
The program made a connection, but there was no reply.
>From listening to the call sound, it seems to me that it goes in  cycles of 9 
>rings.  After each 9, there is a slight pause before it starts again.
of course, I don't know if it then tries another number, but I waited through 
many cycles before I tried to disconnect and that wasn't easy!  Once it had me 
on the line, it seemed that it was loath to let me go.

 

 Jewel

 

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RE: Be My Eyes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Actually, elk and wapiti are the same, but moose are altogether a different 
animal. I am in Canada and specifically in northern British Columbia where we 
have everything running around in the mountains from moose and elk to various 
smaller deer, caribou, mountain goat, mountain sheep, black and grizzly bears 
and so on. Anyhow, I don’t want to get too much off-topic. Hopefully Be my Eyes 
will work for you or, as I said, if not try Crowdvis.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:41 PM
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A * moose in the backyard! that would be a first for New Zealand!  but perhaps 
you are a scot:  I know that you aren't, but if you were, you could be speaking 
about a cute little rodent.
It is said that moose/elks/wopitee I think that they are the same, were 
released in the Fjordland National Park last century or perhaps, in the 19th, 
and hunters report that they do come across elk sign from time to time and 
there are even some very blurry photographs that could be anything:  rather 
like the Saskwash myth:  sorry about the spelling * big Foot.
 My dog has a unhealthy interest in sheep and, in his view, they  are nothing 
other than dog tucker, so having them roaming about in * his backyard would not 
be good for their wellbeing.

Jewel

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My Eyes

Hi Jewel,

I used Be my Eyes for the first time a couple of days ago when I was trying to 
get past a captcha in the middle of the night when my wife was sleeping. After 
it rang for a bit it just sat there and I think said something about 
connecting, but it took probably a good 2 or 3 minutes before  very nice young 
lady with good English but a Russian accent picked up. She read the captcha for 
me in no time and while I was close, I was a bit wrong as she was from the 
Ucraine and not Russia.
If Be my Eyes doesn’t work you can also try the app “Crowdvis” or “Crowdviz” 
not totally sure how it’s spelled.
Sheep are not a problem here, but I usually do have some moose in my backyard 
in the fall/early winter. They stop by to eat the apples on my apple tree and 
more rarely a black bear may wonder in as well.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My Eyes


Has anyone used BME recently?  I needed a pair of eyes in the head of a person 
who could tell me if I had some sheep in the backyard.
The program made a connection, but there was no reply.
>From listening to the call sound, it seems to me that it goes in  cycles of 9 
>rings.  After each 9, there is a slight pause before it starts again.
of course, I don't know if it then tries another number, but I waited through 
many cycles before I tried to disconnect and that wasn't easy!  Once it had me 
on the line, it seemed that it was loath to let me go.

 Jewel

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Re: Be My Eyes

[Jewel]

A * moose in the backyard! that would be a first for New Zealand!  but perhaps 
you are a scot:  I know that you aren't, but if you were, you could be speaking 
about a cute little rodent.
It is said that moose/elks/wopitee I think that they are the same, were 
released in the Fjordland National Park last century or perhaps, in the 19th, 
and hunters report that they do come across elk sign from time to time and 
there are even some very blurry photographs that could be anything:  rather 
like the Saskwash myth:  sorry about the spelling * big Foot.
 My dog has a unhealthy interest in sheep and, in his view, they  are nothing 
other than dog tucker, so having them roaming about in * his backyard would not 
be good for their wellbeing.

Jewel

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Be My Eyes


Hi Jewel,

 

I used Be my Eyes for the first time a couple of days ago when I was trying to 
get past a captcha in the middle of the night when my wife was sleeping. After 
it rang for a bit it just sat there and I think said something about 
connecting, but it took probably a good 2 or 3 minutes before  very nice young 
lady with good English but a Russian accent picked up. She read the captcha for 
me in no time and while I was close, I was a bit wrong as she was from the 
Ucraine and not Russia.

If Be my Eyes doesn’t work you can also try the app “Crowdvis” or “Crowdviz” 
not totally sure how it’s spelled.

Sheep are not a problem here, but I usually do have some moose in my backyard 
in the fall/early winter. They stop by to eat the apples on my apple tree and 
more rarely a black bear may wonder in as well.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My Eyes

 

 

Has anyone used BME recently?  I needed a pair of eyes in the head of a person 
who could tell me if I had some sheep in the backyard.
The program made a connection, but there was no reply.
>From listening to the call sound, it seems to me that it goes in  cycles of 9 
>rings.  After each 9, there is a slight pause before it starts again.
of course, I don't know if it then tries another number, but I waited through 
many cycles before I tried to disconnect and that wasn't easy!  Once it had me 
on the line, it seemed that it was loath to let me go.

 

 Jewel

 

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moving contacts over from Android

[Gordon]

so I've done some reading and I think the best way for me to move 
contacts over is to do a cardav account. My question is, can I remove 
the google account after the contacts are moved over? And will this just 
move contacts? That's all I want it to do.


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Re: Be My Eyes

[Brent Harding]

Isn't crowdviz on suspension while they create 2.0? I really hope not, as I 
bought one of the larger call packs while they were on promotion and never 
really used them that much.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:52 PM
  Subject: RE: Be My Eyes


  Hi Jewel,

   

  I used Be my Eyes for the first time a couple of days ago when I was trying 
to get past a captcha in the middle of the night when my wife was sleeping. 
After it rang for a bit it just sat there and I think said something about 
connecting, but it took probably a good 2 or 3 minutes before  very nice young 
lady with good English but a Russian accent picked up. She read the captcha for 
me in no time and while I was close, I was a bit wrong as she was from the 
Ucraine and not Russia.

  If Be my Eyes doesn’t work you can also try the app “Crowdvis” or “Crowdviz” 
not totally sure how it’s spelled.

  Sheep are not a problem here, but I usually do have some moose in my backyard 
in the fall/early winter. They stop by to eat the apples on my apple tree and 
more rarely a black bear may wonder in as well.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 7:39 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Be My Eyes

   

   

  Has anyone used BME recently?  I needed a pair of eyes in the head of a 
person who could tell me if I had some sheep in the backyard.
  The program made a connection, but there was no reply.
  From listening to the call sound, it seems to me that it goes in  cycles of 9 
rings.  After each 9, there is a slight pause before it starts again.
  of course, I don't know if it then tries another number, but I waited through 
many cycles before I tried to disconnect and that wasn't easy!  Once it had me 
on the line, it seemed that it was loath to let me go.

   

   Jewel

   

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Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers

[Brent Harding]

What about the ovens? Even if we can put braille on the most used controls, do 
they always start out on 350 degrees, or might we accidentally broil the 
cookies if a high temperature was the last thing used by someone else? I'm glad 
that the stove at my apartment is all analog because I can always set the 
marked dial where I want it to be, but those are likely a dying breed. I wonder 
also if the stove tops with the old style not flat burners are getting hard to 
find as well? 

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  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:40 PM
  Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances 
like washers and dryers


  Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still 
work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and 
they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I 
should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years 
old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, 
Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only 
company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is 
Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele 
and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to 
some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, 
just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of 
whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a 
bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade 
again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might 
just do fine.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pinky
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances 
like washers and dryers

   

  Hey Sieghard,

  You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding.

  Ed

   

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Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like 
washers and dryers

   

  Hi List,

   

  The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an 
apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected 
appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, 
LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las 
Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things 
like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there 
are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home 
automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, 
dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 
20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top 
dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model 
which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with 
said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews 
on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”.

   

  I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I 
just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the 
model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one 
I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I 
decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told 
me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked 
and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting 
it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I 
would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I 
actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear 
that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing.

   

  I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 
6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display 
and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and 
nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model 
apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the 
high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible 
as it turns continuously and there is 

RE: Be My Eyes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jewel,

I used Be my Eyes for the first time a couple of days ago when I was trying to 
get past a captcha in the middle of the night when my wife was sleeping. After 
it rang for a bit it just sat there and I think said something about 
connecting, but it took probably a good 2 or 3 minutes before  very nice young 
lady with good English but a Russian accent picked up. She read the captcha for 
me in no time and while I was close, I was a bit wrong as she was from the 
Ucraine and not Russia.
If Be my Eyes doesn’t work you can also try the app “Crowdvis” or “Crowdviz” 
not totally sure how it’s spelled.
Sheep are not a problem here, but I usually do have some moose in my backyard 
in the fall/early winter. They stop by to eat the apples on my apple tree and 
more rarely a black bear may wonder in as well.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My Eyes


Has anyone used BME recently?  I needed a pair of eyes in the head of a person 
who could tell me if I had some sheep in the backyard.
The program made a connection, but there was no reply.
>From listening to the call sound, it seems to me that it goes in  cycles of 9 
>rings.  After each 9, there is a slight pause before it starts again.
of course, I don't know if it then tries another number, but I waited through 
many cycles before I tried to disconnect and that wasn't easy!  Once it had me 
on the line, it seemed that it was loath to let me go.

 Jewel

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RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still 
work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and 
they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I 
should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years 
old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, 
Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only 
company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is 
Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele 
and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to 
some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, 
just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of 
whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a 
bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade 
again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might 
just do fine.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pinky
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like 
washers and dryers

Hey Sieghard,
You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding.
Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like 
washers and dryers

Hi List,

The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an 
apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected 
appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, 
LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las 
Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things 
like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there 
are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home 
automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, 
dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 
20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top 
dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model 
which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with 
said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews 
on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”.

I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I 
just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the 
model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one 
I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I 
decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told 
me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked 
and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting 
it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I 
would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I 
actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear 
that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing.

I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 
6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display 
and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and 
nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model 
apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the 
high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible 
as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and 
as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have 
selected.On the Bosch washing machine the dial does have a tactile line and one 
could write down the list of cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen 
or 15) and then start at 12 o’clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter 
clockwise and count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far have 
touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times to get 
to the setting you want.

Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or 
is accessible in other ways? I know you would have to have bought something in 
the last several months since models usually change each year so if there was 
an accessible model 3 or 4 

Be My Eyes

[Jewel]

Has anyone used BME recently?  I needed a pair of eyes in the head of a person 
who could tell me if I had some sheep in the backyard.
The program made a connection, but there was no reply.
>From listening to the call sound, it seems to me that it goes in  cycles of 9 
>rings.  After each 9, there is a slight pause before it starts again.
of course, I don't know if it then tries another number, but I waited through 
many cycles before I tried to disconnect and that wasn't easy!  Once it had me 
on the line, it seemed that it was loath to let me go.

 Jewel

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Old time radio app

[Candy Lowe]

Hello everyone,
I just downloaded OTR which is old time radio app.  It seems to be pretty 
accessible.  I want to use it for my 95 year old dad.  His eyes are going bad 
and I am trying to find things to pass his time.  Of course, I am going to have 
to get the program ready for him, and turn it on and off.  I am going to play 
it through a blue tooth speaker.  I haven't played with the app much yet, but, 
I'm wondering, if the episodes will play one after another or will I have to 
start each one.  If there is a better app or way to me to listen to these 
programs, I am open to all suggestions.  
I have never listened to these programs for myself, so I am not familiar with 
them.  

Thanks in advance.

Candy 

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Re: Amazon video on Idevices

[Candy Lowe]

Denise, I use Amazon prime once in a while and have had no problem with it.  Do 
a search, find the program you want to watch, you can then either download or 
stream the episode.  I have never downloaded the episodes, I always stream 
them.  I have also used the watch list with no problem.  What problem are you 
having, does it just not stream?  You can write me off list, if you like.

Candy

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> On Jun 12, 2016, at 9:04 AM, denise avant  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I have Amazon prime, and wanted to play an old television show on my iPhone, 
> which is running the latest Ios. However, I could not figure out how to play 
> the first episode of the show, even though I sent it to the watch list. In 
> fact, I don’t even find it in the watch list when I go to it. does anyone 
> have experience with the Amazon video app on the iPhone?
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RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers

[Pinky]

Hey Sieghard,

You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding.

Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like 
washers and dryers

 

Hi List,

 

The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an 
apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected 
appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, 
LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las 
Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things 
like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there 
are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home 
automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, 
dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 
20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top 
dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model 
which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with 
said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews 
on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”.

 

I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I 
just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the 
model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one 
I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I 
decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told 
me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked 
and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting 
it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I 
would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I 
actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear 
that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing.

 

I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 
6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display 
and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and 
nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model 
apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the 
high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible 
as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and 
as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have 
selected.On the Bosch washing machine the dial does have a tactile line and one 
could write down the list of cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen 
or 15) and then start at 12 o’clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter 
clockwise and count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far have 
touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times to get 
to the setting you want.

 

Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or 
is accessible in other ways? I know you would have to have bought something in 
the last several months since models usually change each year so if there was 
an accessible model 3 or 4 years ago chances are that model doesn’t exist any 
more. At least they should make these things talk which probably wouldn’t be 
very difficult given today’s technology.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers

[Cristóbal]

I could write the same post, but with exersize equipment. I.E. Elliptical, 
rower, stationary bike, etc.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like 
washers and dryers

 

Hi List,

 

The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an 
apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected 
appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, 
LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las 
Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things 
like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there 
are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home 
automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, 
dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 
20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top 
dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model 
which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with 
said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews 
on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”.

 

I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I 
just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the 
model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one 
I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I 
decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told 
me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked 
and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting 
it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I 
would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I 
actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear 
that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing.

 

I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 
6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display 
and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and 
nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model 
apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the 
high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible 
as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and 
as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have 
selected.On the Bosch washing machine the dial does have a tactile line and one 
could write down the list of cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen 
or 15) and then start at 12 o’clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter 
clockwise and count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far have 
touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times to get 
to the setting you want.

 

Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or 
is accessible in other ways? I know you would have to have bought something in 
the last several months since models usually change each year so if there was 
an accessible model 3 or 4 years ago chances are that model doesn’t exist any 
more. At least they should make these things talk which probably wouldn’t be 
very difficult given today’s technology.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi Keith,

I shall respond off list, as we are speaking more of the attributes of the 
Vac rather than the app.

However, while we are on list, I should like to say that extending the use 
of the iPhone beyond its, originally, perceived potential, is still valid for 
the list.

I see mention of blood pressure monitors, one pot cookers and fitbit 
accessories, and all are valid for this list, in my opinion. But, I never 
wanted to tire the list with too much enthusiasm on my part. The simple fact is 
that this vac has reinvigorated my interest in my house and my environment, 
generally. The Bot will work without the app, but in a most limited form, with 
the app, it becomes something that one can contral just like anyone else.

See you off list,
Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 12 Jun 2016, at 22:26, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sandy,
>  
> Thanks very much for all the info and the demos.
>  
> We have a mix of carpet and tile. Can one easily set up a carpet day and a 
> tile day, giving time to switch out the brushes for the different floor 
> surfaces??
>  
> How much softer is the noise in Eco mode?
>  
> Please keep me informed if you have to go off the viPhone list by adding me 
> to your email list at the following: kramlinger.ke...@icloud.com .
>  
> Best, Keith
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Hi Ed,
>  
> Oh! It has suction alright! I think it might be the most powerful of the 
> robot vacs. Yesterday, my first time using it, I used the Turbo mode, which 
> is the most powerful, together with the rotating brush, rather like those of 
> an upright vacuum. It did a splendid job, but today, after finding another 
> brush in the box (by the way, the brushes are easy to swap and the dust bin 
> is easy to empty) well, this second brush is also a rotating brush, but is 
> more like a multiple squeegy! I looked it up on line and discovered that it 
> is called the "spiral blade brush" and is recommended for hard floors. Since 
> most of my floors are hard floors, tiles and wood, I gave it a go and I 
> changed the power mode to "Eco", less powerful. Well, I was delighted to see 
> that not only did it do just as well as the other brush at picking up 
> dust/crumbs etc, it also buffs the tiles/wood, making them feel nicer and 
> more shiny!!! My Roomba, in the past, used to do this, and I wondered if the 
> Neato product could do the same and it can! I should say that whenever the 
> floor is vacuumed with our very powerful suction vac (a conventional one that 
> is) the floors always looked clean to the sighted, but to me, who goes by the 
> feel, they never were quite nice to the touch. Now, with the BotVac and the 
> new brush, I keep bending down to admire the lovely shiny clean tiles!!!
>  
> What does it cost?From Amazon in the UK, I paid a wacking 530 pounds 
> sterling! However, Jeremy seems to have found an excellent deal from Best 
> Buys (I hope I have that right. Perhaps Jeremy could give some details again?)
>  
> Hope this helps,
> Sandy of the scintillatingly, shiny, floors!  
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:03, Pinky  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> Does this Bot Vac have suction   or does it just use brushes to clean? Also 
> about how much is this little unit?
> Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Hi Sandy,
>  
> If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You 
> will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or 
> maybe they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling 
> botvac) organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time 
> you can afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.
>  
> Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their 
> union’s “sucks” *smile*
>  
> Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Hi Sieghard and Marie,
>  
> Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model 
> numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24 
> hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable 
> to say that we are both still on a 

RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Sandy,

Thanks very much for all the info and the demos.

We have a mix of carpet and tile. Can one easily set up a carpet day and a tile 
day, giving time to switch out the brushes for the different floor surfaces??

How much softer is the noise in Eco mode?

Please keep me informed if you have to go off the viPhone list by adding me to 
your email list at the following: 
kramlinger.ke...@icloud.com .

Best, Keith

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Ed,

Oh! It has suction alright! I think it might be the most powerful of the 
robot vacs. Yesterday, my first time using it, I used the Turbo mode, which is 
the most powerful, together with the rotating brush, rather like those of an 
upright vacuum. It did a splendid job, but today, after finding another brush 
in the box (by the way, the brushes are easy to swap and the dust bin is easy 
to empty) well, this second brush is also a rotating brush, but is more like a 
multiple squeegy! I looked it up on line and discovered that it is called the 
"spiral blade brush" and is recommended for hard floors. Since most of my 
floors are hard floors, tiles and wood, I gave it a go and I changed the power 
mode to "Eco", less powerful. Well, I was delighted to see that not only did it 
do just as well as the other brush at picking up dust/crumbs etc, it also buffs 
the tiles/wood, making them feel nicer and more shiny!!! My Roomba, in the 
past, used to do this, and I wondered if the Neato product could do the same 
and it can! I should say that whenever the floor is vacuumed with our very 
powerful suction vac (a conventional one that is) the floors always looked 
clean to the sighted, but to me, who goes by the feel, they never were quite 
nice to the touch. Now, with the BotVac and the new brush, I keep bending down 
to admire the lovely shiny clean tiles!!!

What does it cost?From Amazon in the UK, I paid a wacking 530 pounds 
sterling! However, Jeremy seems to have found an excellent deal from Best Buys 
(I hope I have that right. Perhaps Jeremy could give some details again?)

Hope this helps,
Sandy of the scintillatingly, shiny, floors!

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:03, Pinky 
> wrote:
Hi Sandy,
Does this Bot Vac have suction   or does it just use brushes to clean? Also 
about how much is this little unit?
Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sandy,

If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You 
will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or maybe 
they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling botvac) 
organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time you can 
afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.

Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their 
union’s “sucks” *smile*

Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sieghard and Marie,

Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model 
numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24 
hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable to 
say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example, accessibility, 
seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have only done the most 
basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its own thing, 
once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to look for, and 
I would say that this seems to be even better and costs 2/3 of the price, but 
still, it is early days. In other words, make sure you can send it back if you 
do go for it, and please don't hold me to blame if you are disappointed

OK, caveat emptor and all that, plus a bit of cave canem and tempus 
fugit,my new toy is called the Neatorobot botvac connected. There are several 
models of the neato robot vacuum cleaners, the only one that works with an app 
is the one which includes the word 'connected".

As for going under beds: it is 12 cm high, I think that might be about 4 
and 3/4 inches high. My bed is about 2 ft 6 high, being an old brass type, so, 

Re: iMac for sale plus Mac Master Series free

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Re: How to get an app out of a folder?

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you can however, create a folder and then move it to the Doc.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: How to get an app out of a folder?


Just move itt like any other app and drag it down into the dock. If itt is 
not in the position where you want it the first time around, you can drag it 
again left or right inside the dock which actually is easier than dragging 
apps on the home screen since you can't create a folder in the dock so you 
can't accidently drag it on top of another app.

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Of Pinky
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to get an app out of a folder?

Hi Christopher,
I finally got the app out of the folder. Now I want to put it in my doc. I 
took out the Safari app out of the doc and now I have the phone app mail app 
and message app in the doc. I want to put my contact app in between the 
phone app and mail app in the doc. How do I get space in between the phone 
app and the mail app to get the contact app in there?
Ed

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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Do a double tap and hold with one finger and not two fingers. The two finger 
double tap and hold allows you to label an object in voiceOver.

On 12/06/16 11:55, Pinky wrote:
> Hi Everyone.
>
> I am trying to get an app out of a folder. I did the two finger double
> tap and hold but then the edit field comes up on me. Can someone tell
> me what I am doing wrong. Again I do the two finger double tap and
> hold and then I hear some beeping and I move my fingers up but it goes
> into edit mode.
>
> Any help on this would be appreciated.
>
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RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

[Jeremy]

This thread has gone on for a long time, we no longer seem to be focused on 
iOS. 

JR

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Ed,

Oh! It has suction alright! I think it might be the most powerful of the 
robot vacs. Yesterday, my first time using it, I used the Turbo mode, which is 
the most powerful, together with the rotating brush, rather like those of an 
upright vacuum. It did a splendid job, but today, after finding another brush 
in the box (by the way, the brushes are easy to swap and the dust bin is easy 
to empty) well, this second brush is also a rotating brush, but is more like a 
multiple squeegy! I looked it up on line and discovered that it is called the 
"spiral blade brush" and is recommended for hard floors. Since most of my 
floors are hard floors, tiles and wood, I gave it a go and I changed the power 
mode to "Eco", less powerful. Well, I was delighted to see that not only did it 
do just as well as the other brush at picking up dust/crumbs etc, it also buffs 
the tiles/wood, making them feel nicer and more shiny!!! My Roomba, in the 
past, used to do this, and I wondered if the Neato product could do the same 
and it can! I should say that whenever the floor is vacuumed with our very 
powerful suction vac (a conventional one that is) the floors always looked 
clean to the sighted, but to me, who goes by the feel, they never were quite 
nice to the touch. Now, with the BotVac and the new brush, I keep bending down 
to admire the lovely shiny clean tiles!!!

What does it cost?From Amazon in the UK, I paid a wacking 530 pounds 
sterling! However, Jeremy seems to have found an excellent deal from Best Buys 
(I hope I have that right. Perhaps Jeremy could give some details again?)

Hope this helps,
Sandy of the scintillatingly, shiny, floors!  

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:03, Pinky  wrote:



Hi Sandy,

Does this Bot Vac have suction   or does it just use brushes to clean? 
Also about how much is this little unit?

Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file 
with you using Dropbox

 

Hi Sandy,

 

If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. 
You will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or 
maybe they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling 
botvac) organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time you 
can afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.

 

Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard 
their union’s “sucks” *smile*

 

Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file 
with you using Dropbox

 

Hi Sieghard and Marie,

 

Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at 
model numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24 
hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable to 
say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example, accessibility, 
seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have only done the most 
basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its own thing, 
once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to look for, and 
I would say that this seems to be even better and costs 2/3 of the price, but 
still, it is early days. In other words, make sure you can send it back if you 
do go for it, and please don't hold me to blame if you are disappointed

 

OK, caveat emptor and all that, plus a bit of cave canem and tempus 
fugit,my new toy is called the Neatorobot botvac connected. There are several 
models of the neato robot vacuum cleaners, the only one that works with an app 
is the one which includes the word 'connected". 

 

As for going under beds: it is 12 cm high, I think that might be 
about 4 and 3/4 inches high. My bed is about 2 ft 6 high, being an old brass 
type, so, obviously, no probs there, I could possibly fit the entire Dagganham 
Girls Brass Band under there! But if you have something more modern, much less 
than 5 inches might be too tight.

 

  

Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi Ed,

Oh! It has suction alright! I think it might be the most powerful of the 
robot vacs. Yesterday, my first time using it, I used the Turbo mode, which is 
the most powerful, together with the rotating brush, rather like those of an 
upright vacuum. It did a splendid job, but today, after finding another brush 
in the box (by the way, the brushes are easy to swap and the dust bin is easy 
to empty) well, this second brush is also a rotating brush, but is more like a 
multiple squeegy! I looked it up on line and discovered that it is called the 
"spiral blade brush" and is recommended for hard floors. Since most of my 
floors are hard floors, tiles and wood, I gave it a go and I changed the power 
mode to "Eco", less powerful. Well, I was delighted to see that not only did it 
do just as well as the other brush at picking up dust/crumbs etc, it also buffs 
the tiles/wood, making them feel nicer and more shiny!!! My Roomba, in the 
past, used to do this, and I wondered if the Neato product could do the same 
and it can! I should say that whenever the floor is vacuumed with our very 
powerful suction vac (a conventional one that is) the floors always looked 
clean to the sighted, but to me, who goes by the feel, they never were quite 
nice to the touch. Now, with the BotVac and the new brush, I keep bending down 
to admire the lovely shiny clean tiles!!!

What does it cost?From Amazon in the UK, I paid a wacking 530 pounds 
sterling! However, Jeremy seems to have found an excellent deal from Best Buys 
(I hope I have that right. Perhaps Jeremy could give some details again?)

Hope this helps,
Sandy of the scintillatingly, shiny, floors!  

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:03, Pinky  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> Does this Bot Vac have suction   or does it just use brushes to clean? Also 
> about how much is this little unit?
> Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Hi Sandy,
>  
> If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You 
> will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or 
> maybe they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling 
> botvac) organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time 
> you can afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.
>  
> Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their 
> union’s “sucks” *smile*
>  
> Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Hi Sieghard and Marie,
>  
> Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model 
> numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24 
> hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable 
> to say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example, 
> accessibility, seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have 
> only done the most basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its 
> own thing, once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to 
> look for, and I would say that this seems to be even better and costs 2/3 of 
> the price, but still, it is early days. In other words, make sure you can 
> send it back if you do go for it, and please don't hold me to blame if you 
> are disappointed
>  
> OK, caveat emptor and all that, plus a bit of cave canem and tempus 
> fugit,my new toy is called the Neatorobot botvac connected. There are several 
> models of the neato robot vacuum cleaners, the only one that works with an 
> app is the one which includes the word 'connected". 
>  
> As for going under beds: it is 12 cm high, I think that might be about 4 
> and 3/4 inches high. My bed is about 2 ft 6 high, being an old brass type, 
> so, obviously, no probs there, I could possibly fit the entire Dagganham 
> Girls Brass Band under there! But if you have something more modern, much 
> less than 5 inches might be too tight.
>  
> I think that this Neato product has the best and easiest dust bin, both 
> for removal and emptying. It was nearly full after today's effort, and Hugh 
> was sure it wouldn't have much to get, seeing as he had hoovered, with a 
> powerful traditional vac recently. I had a lot of dog hairs in it, though the 
> dog is not meant to moult and Hugh was sure he had got them all! Another nice 
> thing, but I haven't tried it yet with the app, you can spot clean. Lets 
> imagine you have 

RE: activation

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi JoJo,

You must have updated your phone to a new iOS version which is when this 
message appears. Nothing to worry about, though, you just double tap on where 
it says “Slide to setup” and after it does its thing all is as it should be.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
JoJo and Clinton
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: activation

This morning I had to reboot my phone.  After it rebooted, it said slide to set 
up.  I tapped on the slide to set up, it said something about activating my 
phone.  Has anyone ever had this happen.  This is really weird.  Any help would 
be appreciated.

Thank you
JoJo
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RE: QardioArm Blood Pressure monitor, was: Unboxing my Neato BotVac!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Oops, sorry, I meant to say that I really like the QardioArm blood pressure 
monitor, it is easy to use and seems quite accurate. I also have at least one 
other friend in Germany who has one, another friend who is about to buy one and 
I know several people on the list here have them, too.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: QardioArm Blood Pressure monitor, was: Unboxing my Neato BotVac!

Hi Ed,

I am not getting a BotVac any time soon, I have a very good and powerful 
central vac and while it sounds like a nice little device which may actually 
bridge the gap from a toy to being very useful, I am quite capable of vacuuming 
my house, in any case, my wife and I both do it so it’s not that big a deal and 
I am first in the market for some other new appliances like a washer/dryer and 
possible an over the range combination microwave and ventilation hood. Our 
kitchen is not that large and I really love space-saving and efficient 
appliances like that. Some microwaves can even grill so I might be able to get 
rid of both my microwave which is about 20 years old and my toaster oven by 
installing one device in a space which is already taken up by a conventional 
hood fan over the range anyways. Then maybe I am going to also replace my rice 
cooker/steamer and slow cooker with one of the Instant Pots which sound 
interesting. This would mean I replace 5 devices with 2 which would save a lot 
of space.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pinky
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sieghard,
Wow, I had no idea that that Bot Vac was so expensive. For $700.00 it is 
cheaper to have my wife do the vacuuming.  Don’t tell her I said that though. 
Thanks for providing all the info on it. I will be interested in how it workds 
for you if you get one.
I also would be interested in your opinion on that blood pressure device you 
got and how it workds for you. Also your opinion on it.
Ed
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Ed,

Yes, it is a full vacuum cleaner with brushes  and also sucktion. Sandy is in 
Ireland so whatever she paid over there wouldn’t be very representative in the 
States. On Amazon.com they seem to go for around $700 US for the Wi-Fi 
connected version which can be controlled by an app.
Another simpler version is listed at $450.
For the Canadians on the list who wonder what it costs here in Canada, the 
connected version is listed for $999 on Amazon.ca as well as on the BestBuy.ca 
website. $700 US currently is about $930, of course by the time you  add the 
taxes, here in British Columbia it would end up costing $1,120, $1,130 in 
Ontario. I’ll certainly take a look next ttime I’m at a Best Buy, I am in any 
case shopping for a new washer and dryer, but I’ll post something about this 
separately.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sandy,
Does this Bot Vac have suction   or does it just use brushes to clean? Also 
about how much is this little unit?
Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sandy,

If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You 
will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or maybe 
they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling botvac) 
organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time you can 
afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.

Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their 
union’s “sucks” *smile*

Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sieghard and Marie,

Now, 

QardioArm Blood Pressure monitor, was: Unboxing my Neato BotVac!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Ed,

I am not getting a BotVac any time soon, I have a very good and powerful 
central vac and while it sounds like a nice little device which may actually 
bridge the gap from a toy to being very useful, I am quite capable of vacuuming 
my house, in any case, my wife and I both do it so it’s not that big a deal and 
I am first in the market for some other new appliances like a washer/dryer and 
possible an over the range combination microwave and ventilation hood. Our 
kitchen is not that large and I really love space-saving and efficient 
appliances like that. Some microwaves can even grill so I might be able to get 
rid of both my microwave which is about 20 years old and my toaster oven by 
installing one device in a space which is already taken up by a conventional 
hood fan over the range anyways. Then maybe I am going to also replace my rice 
cooker/steamer and slow cooker with one of the Instant Pots which sound 
interesting. This would mean I replace 5 devices with 2 which would save a lot 
of space.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pinky
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sieghard,
Wow, I had no idea that that Bot Vac was so expensive. For $700.00 it is 
cheaper to have my wife do the vacuuming.  Don’t tell her I said that though. 
Thanks for providing all the info on it. I will be interested in how it workds 
for you if you get one.
I also would be interested in your opinion on that blood pressure device you 
got and how it workds for you. Also your opinion on it.
Ed
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Ed,

Yes, it is a full vacuum cleaner with brushes  and also sucktion. Sandy is in 
Ireland so whatever she paid over there wouldn’t be very representative in the 
States. On Amazon.com they seem to go for around $700 US for the Wi-Fi 
connected version which can be controlled by an app.
Another simpler version is listed at $450.
For the Canadians on the list who wonder what it costs here in Canada, the 
connected version is listed for $999 on Amazon.ca as well as on the BestBuy.ca 
website. $700 US currently is about $930, of course by the time you  add the 
taxes, here in British Columbia it would end up costing $1,120, $1,130 in 
Ontario. I’ll certainly take a look next ttime I’m at a Best Buy, I am in any 
case shopping for a new washer and dryer, but I’ll post something about this 
separately.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sandy,
Does this Bot Vac have suction   or does it just use brushes to clean? Also 
about how much is this little unit?
Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sandy,

If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You 
will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or maybe 
they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling botvac) 
organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time you can 
afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.

Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their 
union’s “sucks” *smile*

Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sieghard and Marie,

Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model 
numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24 
hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable to 
say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example, accessibility, 
seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have only done the most 
basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its own thing, 
once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to look for, and 
I 

Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi List,

The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an 
apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected 
appliances. I'be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, 
LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las 
Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things 
like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there 
are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home 
automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, 
dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 
20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top 
dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model 
which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with 
said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews 
on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically "It doesn't work".

I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I 
just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn't realize that the 
model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one 
I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I 
decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told 
me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked 
and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting 
it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I 
would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I 
actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear 
that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it's totally amazing.

I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 
6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display 
and another store, mostly they don't stock the top of the line models and 
nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model 
apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the 
high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn't even accessible 
as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and 
as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have 
selected.On the Bosch washing machine the dial does have a tactile line and one 
could write down the list of cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen 
or 15) and then start at 12 o'clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter 
clockwise and count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far have 
touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times to get 
to the setting you want.

Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or 
is accessible in other ways? I know you would have to have bought something in 
the last several months since models usually change each year so if there was 
an accessible model 3 or 4 years ago chances are that model doesn't exist any 
more. At least they should make these things talk which probably wouldn't be 
very difficult given today's technology.


Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

[Pinky]

Hi Sieghard,

Wow, I had no idea that that Bot Vac was so expensive. For $700.00 it is 
cheaper to have my wife do the vacuuming.  Don’t tell her I said that though. 
Thanks for providing all the info on it. I will be interested in how it workds 
for you if you get one.

I also would be interested in your opinion on that blood pressure device you 
got and how it workds for you. Also your opinion on it.

Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

 

Hi Ed,

 

Yes, it is a full vacuum cleaner with brushes  and also sucktion. Sandy is in 
Ireland so whatever she paid over there wouldn’t be very representative in the 
States. On Amazon.com they seem to go for around $700 US for the Wi-Fi 
connected version which can be controlled by an app.

Another simpler version is listed at $450.

For the Canadians on the list who wonder what it costs here in Canada, the 
connected version is listed for $999 on Amazon.ca as well as on the BestBuy.ca 
website. $700 US currently is about $930, of course by the time you  add the 
taxes, here in British Columbia it would end up costing $1,120, $1,130 in 
Ontario. I’ll certainly take a look next ttime I’m at a Best Buy, I am in any 
case shopping for a new washer and dryer, but I’ll post something about this 
separately.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pinky
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

 

Hi Sandy,

Does this Bot Vac have suction   or does it just use brushes to clean? Also 
about how much is this little unit?

Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

 

Hi Sandy,

 

If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You 
will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or maybe 
they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling botvac) 
organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time you can 
afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.

 

Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their 
union’s “sucks” *smile*

 

Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

 

Hi Sieghard and Marie,

 

Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model 
numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24 
hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable to 
say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example, accessibility, 
seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have only done the most 
basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its own thing, 
once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to look for, and 
I would say that this seems to be even better and costs 2/3 of the price, but 
still, it is early days. In other words, make sure you can send it back if you 
do go for it, and please don't hold me to blame if you are disappointed

 

OK, caveat emptor and all that, plus a bit of cave canem and tempus 
fugit,my new toy is called the Neatorobot botvac connected. There are several 
models of the neato robot vacuum cleaners, the only one that works with an app 
is the one which includes the word 'connected". 

 

As for going under beds: it is 12 cm high, I think that might be about 4 
and 3/4 inches high. My bed is about 2 ft 6 high, being an old brass type, so, 
obviously, no probs there, I could possibly fit the entire Dagganham Girls 
Brass Band under there! But if you have something more modern, much less than 5 
inches might be too tight.

 

I think that this Neato product has the best and easiest dust bin, both for 
removal and emptying. It was nearly full after today's effort, and Hugh was 
sure it wouldn't have much to get, seeing as he had hoovered, with a powerful 
traditional vac recently. I had a lot of dog hairs in it, though the dog is not 
meant to moult and Hugh was sure he had got them all! Another nice thing, but I 
haven't tried it yet with the app, you can spot clean. Lets imagine you have 
spilt something in the kitchen, sugar or flour, perhaps, and you know it is in 
a certain area, just go get your Bot, carried 

RE: How to get an app out of a folder?

[Pinky]

Hi Sieghard,
Thanks for the info. I was concerned about dragging the app to the dock and 
having it make a folder or how I was going to get it in between the apps I 
wanted. Now that you told me that folder cannot be made in the dock that made 
it less worry some and I drag the app down and got it where I wanted it.
Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.
Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to get an app out of a folder?

Just move itt like any other app and drag it down into the dock. If itt is not 
in the position where you want it the first time around, you can drag it again 
left or right inside the dock which actually is easier than dragging apps on 
the home screen since you can't create a folder in the dock so you can't 
accidently drag it on top of another app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pinky
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to get an app out of a folder?

Hi Christopher,
I finally got the app out of the folder. Now I want to put it in my doc. I took 
out the Safari app out of the doc and now I have the phone app mail app and 
message app in the doc. I want to put my contact app in between the phone app 
and mail app in the doc. How do I get space in between the phone app and the 
mail app to get the contact app in there?
Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to get an app out of a folder?

Do a double tap and hold with one finger and not two fingers. The two finger 
double tap and hold allows you to label an object in voiceOver.

On 12/06/16 11:55, Pinky wrote:
> Hi Everyone.
>
> I am trying to get an app out of a folder. I did the two finger double 
> tap and hold but then the edit field comes up on me. Can someone tell 
> me what I am doing wrong. Again I do the two finger double tap and 
> hold and then I hear some beeping and I move my fingers up but it goes 
> into edit mode.
>
> Any help on this would be appreciated.
>
> Ed
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RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Ed,

Yes, it is a full vacuum cleaner with brushes  and also sucktion. Sandy is in 
Ireland so whatever she paid over there wouldn’t be very representative in the 
States. On Amazon.com they seem to go for around $700 US for the Wi-Fi 
connected version which can be controlled by an app.
Another simpler version is listed at $450.
For the Canadians on the list who wonder what it costs here in Canada, the 
connected version is listed for $999 on Amazon.ca as well as on the BestBuy.ca 
website. $700 US currently is about $930, of course by the time you  add the 
taxes, here in British Columbia it would end up costing $1,120, $1,130 in 
Ontario. I’ll certainly take a look next ttime I’m at a Best Buy, I am in any 
case shopping for a new washer and dryer, but I’ll post something about this 
separately.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pinky
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sandy,
Does this Bot Vac have suction   or does it just use brushes to clean? Also 
about how much is this little unit?
Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sandy,

If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You 
will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or maybe 
they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling botvac) 
organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time you can 
afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.

Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their 
union’s “sucks” *smile*

Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sieghard and Marie,

Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model 
numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24 
hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable to 
say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example, accessibility, 
seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have only done the most 
basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its own thing, 
once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to look for, and 
I would say that this seems to be even better and costs 2/3 of the price, but 
still, it is early days. In other words, make sure you can send it back if you 
do go for it, and please don't hold me to blame if you are disappointed

OK, caveat emptor and all that, plus a bit of cave canem and tempus 
fugit,my new toy is called the Neatorobot botvac connected. There are several 
models of the neato robot vacuum cleaners, the only one that works with an app 
is the one which includes the word 'connected".

As for going under beds: it is 12 cm high, I think that might be about 4 
and 3/4 inches high. My bed is about 2 ft 6 high, being an old brass type, so, 
obviously, no probs there, I could possibly fit the entire Dagganham Girls 
Brass Band under there! But if you have something more modern, much less than 5 
inches might be too tight.

I think that this Neato product has the best and easiest dust bin, both for 
removal and emptying. It was nearly full after today's effort, and Hugh was 
sure it wouldn't have much to get, seeing as he had hoovered, with a powerful 
traditional vac recently. I had a lot of dog hairs in it, though the dog is not 
meant to moult and Hugh was sure he had got them all! Another nice thing, but I 
haven't tried it yet with the app, you can spot clean. Lets imagine you have 
spilt something in the kitchen, sugar or flour, perhaps, and you know it is in 
a certain area, just go get your Bot, carried easily by the handle, put it just 
in front of where you think your spillage is and press the spot clean button, 
or use the app, and it will clean a square of about 4 ft (don't quote me on 
just how large the area is, can't remember just now) starting with the outer 
perimeter and working in. So, you don't have to do the whole room if it doesn't 
suit.

Lastly, if anyone is serious about one of these, do look around. Amazon isn't 
bad, in fact, it might be the cheapest, but some have extended warrentees for 
up to 5 years, worth looking at IMHO.

Wine time now, will clink a glass with my new pal Bottom.

Sandy

P.S. Sieghard, you asked how large the floor space of my ground floor, 

RE: How to get an app out of a folder?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

By the way, I personally rarely use the Contacts app itself and have it stuck 
on I think my third home page where I keep apps I rarely use because I find itt 
easy enough to just open  the Phone app and tap on  the contacts tab which is 
just about above the home key. That basically give me access to my contacts the 
same way as the Contacts app does.

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Subject: RE: How to get an app out of a folder?

Hi Christopher,
I finally got the app out of the folder. Now I want to put it in my doc. I took 
out the Safari app out of the doc and now I have the phone app mail app and 
message app in the doc. I want to put my contact app in between the phone app 
and mail app in the doc. How do I get space in between the phone app and the 
mail app to get the contact app in there?
Ed

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Subject: Re: How to get an app out of a folder?

Do a double tap and hold with one finger and not two fingers. The two finger 
double tap and hold allows you to label an object in voiceOver.

On 12/06/16 11:55, Pinky wrote:
> Hi Everyone.
>
> I am trying to get an app out of a folder. I did the two finger double 
> tap and hold but then the edit field comes up on me. Can someone tell 
> me what I am doing wrong. Again I do the two finger double tap and 
> hold and then I hear some beeping and I move my fingers up but it goes 
> into edit mode.
>
> Any help on this would be appreciated.
>
> Ed
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RE: How to get an app out of a folder?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just move itt like any other app and drag it down into the dock. If itt is not 
in the position where you want it the first time around, you can drag it again 
left or right inside the dock which actually is easier than dragging apps on 
the home screen since you can't create a folder in the dock so you can't 
accidently drag it on top of another app.

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Subject: RE: How to get an app out of a folder?

Hi Christopher,
I finally got the app out of the folder. Now I want to put it in my doc. I took 
out the Safari app out of the doc and now I have the phone app mail app and 
message app in the doc. I want to put my contact app in between the phone app 
and mail app in the doc. How do I get space in between the phone app and the 
mail app to get the contact app in there?
Ed

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Do a double tap and hold with one finger and not two fingers. The two finger 
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On 12/06/16 11:55, Pinky wrote:
> Hi Everyone.
>
> I am trying to get an app out of a folder. I did the two finger double 
> tap and hold but then the edit field comes up on me. Can someone tell 
> me what I am doing wrong. Again I do the two finger double tap and 
> hold and then I hear some beeping and I move my fingers up but it goes 
> into edit mode.
>
> Any help on this would be appreciated.
>
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RE: How to get an app out of a folder?

[Pinky]

Hi Christopher,
I finally got the app out of the folder. Now I want to put it in my doc. I took 
out the Safari app out of the doc and now I have the phone app mail app and 
message app in the doc. I want to put my contact app in between the phone app 
and mail app in the doc. How do I get space in between the phone app and the 
mail app to get the contact app in there?
Ed

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Subject: Re: How to get an app out of a folder?

Do a double tap and hold with one finger and not two fingers. The two finger 
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On 12/06/16 11:55, Pinky wrote:
> Hi Everyone.
>
> I am trying to get an app out of a folder. I did the two finger double 
> tap and hold but then the edit field comes up on me. Can someone tell 
> me what I am doing wrong. Again I do the two finger double tap and 
> hold and then I hear some beeping and I move my fingers up but it goes 
> into edit mode.
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>
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Re: How to get an app out of a folder?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Do a double tap and hold with one finger and not two fingers. The two 
finger double tap and hold allows you to label an object in voiceOver.


On 12/06/16 11:55, Pinky wrote:

Hi Everyone.

I am trying to get an app out of a folder. I did the two finger double
tap and hold but then the edit field comes up on me. Can someone tell me
what I am doing wrong. Again I do the two finger double tap and hold and
then I hear some beeping and I move my fingers up but it goes into edit
mode.

Any help on this would be appreciated.

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RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

[Pinky]

Hi Sandy,

Does this Bot Vac have suction   or does it just use brushes to clean? Also 
about how much is this little unit?

Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

 

Hi Sandy,

 

If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You 
will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or maybe 
they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling botvac) 
organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time you can 
afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.

 

Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their 
union’s “sucks” *smile*

 

Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

 

Hi Sieghard and Marie,

 

Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model 
numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24 
hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable to 
say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example, accessibility, 
seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have only done the most 
basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its own thing, 
once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to look for, and 
I would say that this seems to be even better and costs 2/3 of the price, but 
still, it is early days. In other words, make sure you can send it back if you 
do go for it, and please don't hold me to blame if you are disappointed

 

OK, caveat emptor and all that, plus a bit of cave canem and tempus 
fugit,my new toy is called the Neatorobot botvac connected. There are several 
models of the neato robot vacuum cleaners, the only one that works with an app 
is the one which includes the word 'connected". 

 

As for going under beds: it is 12 cm high, I think that might be about 4 
and 3/4 inches high. My bed is about 2 ft 6 high, being an old brass type, so, 
obviously, no probs there, I could possibly fit the entire Dagganham Girls 
Brass Band under there! But if you have something more modern, much less than 5 
inches might be too tight.

 

I think that this Neato product has the best and easiest dust bin, both for 
removal and emptying. It was nearly full after today's effort, and Hugh was 
sure it wouldn't have much to get, seeing as he had hoovered, with a powerful 
traditional vac recently. I had a lot of dog hairs in it, though the dog is not 
meant to moult and Hugh was sure he had got them all! Another nice thing, but I 
haven't tried it yet with the app, you can spot clean. Lets imagine you have 
spilt something in the kitchen, sugar or flour, perhaps, and you know it is in 
a certain area, just go get your Bot, carried easily by the handle, put it just 
in front of where you think your spillage is and press the spot clean button, 
or use the app, and it will clean a square of about 4 ft (don't quote me on 
just how large the area is, can't remember just now) starting with the outer 
perimeter and working in. So, you don't have to do the whole room if it doesn't 
suit.

 

Lastly, if anyone is serious about one of these, do look around. Amazon isn't 
bad, in fact, it might be the cheapest, but some have extended warrentees for 
up to 5 years, worth looking at IMHO.

 

Wine time now, will clink a glass with my new pal Bottom.

 

Sandy

 

P.S. Sieghard, you asked how large the floor space of my ground floor, Hugh 
says about 1000 square feet.   

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 11 Jun 2016, at 19:52, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

That’s where a traditional 4-poster with just a slatted base and a good 
mattress and a vacuum that is not an upright come in handy. Our bed has about a 
foot of space underneath and I have a built-in central vacuum so just the hose 
and the thing with the floor brush which is only about 2 inches thick and I can 
even get underneath our couch with it.

 

I must admit that Sandy’s new toy sounds interesting and tempting. Sandy, I 
haven’t looked yet, but do they have different dmodels, if so, which one did 
you buy?

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 10:48 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

 

Under the bed? Do you have an idea what the height off the 

How to get an app out of a folder?

[Pinky]

Hi Everyone.

I am trying to get an app out of a folder. I did the two finger double tap
and hold but then the edit field comes up on me. Can someone tell me what I
am doing wrong. Again I do the two finger double tap and hold and then I
hear some beeping and I move my fingers up but it goes into edit mode.

Any help on this would be appreciated.

Ed

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Re: Looking for an outdoor thermometer and accesible app combo

[Alan Paganelli]

Blind Mice Mart sells an indoor out door thermometer.  The unit talks giving 
you the time and temperature both indoor and outdoor at the top of the hour or 
on demand.  The outdoor sensor requires 2 triple A batteries and the base 
station requires 2 double A batteries.  I don't remember what I paid for the 
talking clock but it wasn't all that expensive and Blind Mice Mart has all the 
info.  It can be set to read temperatures in either popular format your choice 
at the flick of a switch.  


Alan

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> On Jun 12, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Julian  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I’m looking for a combination of a remote outdoor thermometer and
> accessible app to replace my old Radio Shack talking indoor/outdoor
> thermometer. In the past I’ve read discussions here of a full remote
> weather station and app that seemed VO friendly but living in an
> apartment limits my ability to deploy such an extensive set up. Have
> any of you come across a combo of a simple remote outdoor temperature
> sensor that can be placed outside of a window and accessible app? If
> so, please share. Ideally, I would like to have access to details like
> current temperature as well as daily high and low temperatures. Thank
> you in advance.
> 
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Amazon video on Idevices

[denise avant]

Hello everyone,
I have Amazon prime, and wanted to play an old television show on my iPhone, 
which is running the latest Ios. However, I could not figure out how to play 
the first episode of the show, even though I sent it to the watch list. In 
fact, I don’t even find it in the watch list when I go to it. does anyone have 
experience with the Amazon video app on the iPhone?

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activation

[JoJo and Clinton]

This morning I had to reboot my phone.  After it rebooted, it said slide to set 
up.  I tapped on the slide to set up, it said something about activating my 
phone.  Has anyone ever had this happen.  This is really weird.  Any help would 
be appreciated.

Thank you
JoJo

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Re: How to tell what is using your location services

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
Incoming notifications are part of the push notifications service
which should differ from the location services. It is expected fro
user to want some notifications while app is not running or it is
removed from the switcher but there's no need for location service
to be turned on if the user are not actively using the app depending
on te location. GPS extended usage drains battery a lot more than
notifications and user should know if some apps are using GPS when
completely turned off.


  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

10.6.2016. u 19:04, Mary Otten je
  napisao/la:


   I get some of those notifications to, particularly mail and Facebook. I always assumed that was some kind of function having to do with the notifications set in the notification Center. But who knows?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


  
On Jun 10, 2016, at 10:01 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Mary,

I am confident that disabling the Background App Refresh service is the solution to your problem to the extent that the location services icon will no longer be displayed in your status bar when an app is not actively using it.

The funny thing is that even when the Background App Refresh service is disabled, many apps continue to run in the background, even when not in the app switcher.  For example, I continue to receive notifications from the Facebook app, the Twitter app, the native mail app, my banking apps, and several other popular third-party apps.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to tell what is using your location services

Hi Gordon,
Oh, I am not saying that the problem has been solved. I was just able to find the setting that Mark was talking about, and discovered that I had not turned it off. So I did so. Now, if over the next several days, I don't see that location services thing in my status bar, I will have to suppose that it did indeed solve the problem. The question as to why is still a Mistry, since the app switcher is empty when that location services thing shows up.

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On Jun 10, 2016, at 4:39 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
Hi, Mary!
I'm glad you solved the problem but it's still pretty unlogical to me.
If I recall correctly, you said you've been noticing Location Services icon even when the apps which use Location Services was completely turned off from the App Switcher.
The setting you just disabled is relevant to the apps still beeing in the background, meaning beeing available through the App Switcher allowing them to refresh or not refresh while there and should not have any impact to completely turned off apps.
Again, I'm glad it works for you but I suspect something else is goin on there.
S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
 

 
 
 
10.6.2016. u 0:10, Mary Otten je napisao/la:
Thank you again, Mark. I had not turn background refresh off. I have not done so, and I want to put in a plug here for the search box in the settings app. I don't know how long it would've taken me to actually find that setting. But the settings search thing did it right away.
Mary


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On Jun 9, 2016, at 10:48 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Mary,

You know, you raise an interesting subject that has been in the back of my mind for quite some time but in the reverse, in my case.  When I look at my friends' phones, I very often see the location service indicator in their status bar even when, like you, a location based app is not being used.  

However, although I use many of the same apps as they, and doubtless countless others, I never, and I do mean, never, see the location services indicator in my phone's status bar when those apps are either closed or not tracking my location.

The only thing that I can contribute to this is that I have disabled the Background App Refresh service, on my phone.

Mark

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to tell what is using your location services

Often enough to be irritating, I noticed that location services are on, when I don't have any app open or in the app switcher that has been authorized to use them, such as a Weather app, the GPS app, etc. I have a lot of apps that are not authorized to use location services. I have other apps that are specifically authorized to use location services only when they're open and being used. And then there 

Re: Apple TV 4th Generation

[MamaPeach]

It is hard wired straight into the router.

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV 4th Generation

Interesting, we have an Apple TV 4th Gen and I have not seen any of this 
even once. We are in Canada and don't have Hulu, but no issues with Netflix 
or Youtube. What you are describing with a show not resuming after pausing 
it could be a network issue? Do you have your Apple TV on WiFi or do you 
have it hardwired to your router?


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of MamaPeach

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Generation

With NetFlix, I can watch an episode of a show such as The Andy Griffith 
Show. If I pause an episode, then resume play, I get an error and I can't 
continue the episode. I have to remove the NetFlix app from the app 
switcher, then restart the device and that doesn't always work either. The 
error doesn't always happen from pausing either, it just happens. Sometimes, 
I can never get it to work and I have to switch to another profile to watch 
the same episode. YouTube doesn't work half of the time, same thing, remove 
the app from the app switcher and restart the device. . With Hulu, I can be 
browsing around and if I click on more details to learn more about a movie, 
the app will crash every time. These are just a few little annoyances that I 
am having to deal with. I have uninstalled the apps and reinstalled, but the 
problems still exist. My software is up to date as well. The device seemed 
more stable when it was first released than it is now. I guess one of the 
software updates caused these problems.


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV 4th Generation

Can you describe what issues you have with Netflix and Youtube?


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Of MamaPeach

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 3:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Generation

I love mine, but lately I have been noticing some glitches that make  me 
very unhappy, especially with NetFlix and YouTube. I am hoping an update for 
either the Apple TV or for the apps themselves will be released soon that 
will fix these issues. Overall though, I love it and don't regret getting 
mine.


-Original Message-
From: christopher hallsworth
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:56 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Apple TV 4th Generation

Evening everyone.

Your owner and myself are investigating in the Apple TV 4th Generation.
Apart from the book I’ve just bought from Mosen Consulting, “Apple TV 4th 
Generation with VoiceOver”, how are you personally finding it? One of the 
reasons we may be upgrading is the lack of security and bug fix updates in 
the Apple TV 3rd Generation and of course be up in the world . But 
one other somewhat mysterious reason is I’ve heard from the owner that it 
can change the source of an HD TV without one ever having to do it 
themselves. While we are no Apple engineers, we suspect it could be to do 
with our boxes. Any thoughts greatly appreciated. Thank you.



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RE: Looking for an outdoor thermometer and accesible app combo

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I only know of the Netatmo Weather Station. It is, however, not really that 
difficult to set up, the outdoor unit consists of a round aluminum unit 
approx.. 1.5 inches thick and maybe 4 inches tall. If you have a balcony you 
could easily put it somewhere on the balcony and if not it would probably be 
possible to attach it somehow outside a window. About once a  year or maybe a 
bit less depending on your climate you would need to get to it in order to 
change the batteries.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Julian
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:28 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Looking for an outdoor thermometer and accesible app combo

Hello,

I’m looking for a combination of a remote outdoor thermometer and accessible 
app to replace my old Radio Shack talking indoor/outdoor thermometer. In the 
past I’ve read discussions here of a full remote weather station and app that 
seemed VO friendly but living in an apartment limits my ability to deploy such 
an extensive set up. Have any of you come across a combo of a simple remote 
outdoor temperature sensor that can be placed outside of a window and 
accessible app? If so, please share. Ideally, I would like to have access to 
details like current temperature as well as daily high and low temperatures. 
Thank you in advance.

Julian

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Looking for an outdoor thermometer and accesible app combo

[Julian]

Hello,

I’m looking for a combination of a remote outdoor thermometer and
accessible app to replace my old Radio Shack talking indoor/outdoor
thermometer. In the past I’ve read discussions here of a full remote
weather station and app that seemed VO friendly but living in an
apartment limits my ability to deploy such an extensive set up. Have
any of you come across a combo of a simple remote outdoor temperature
sensor that can be placed outside of a window and accessible app? If
so, please share. Ideally, I would like to have access to details like
current temperature as well as daily high and low temperatures. Thank
you in advance.

Julian

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RE: Apple TV 4th Generation

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Interesting, we have an Apple TV 4th Gen and I have not seen any of this even 
once. We are in Canada and don't have Hulu, but no issues with Netflix or 
Youtube. What you are describing with a show not resuming after pausing it 
could be a network issue? Do you have your Apple TV on WiFi or do you have it 
hardwired to your router?

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Generation

With NetFlix, I can watch an episode of a show such as The Andy Griffith Show. 
If I pause an episode, then resume play, I get an error and I can't continue 
the episode. I have to remove the NetFlix app from the app switcher, then 
restart the device and that doesn't always work either. The error doesn't 
always happen from pausing either, it just happens. Sometimes, I can never get 
it to work and I have to switch to another profile to watch the same episode. 
YouTube doesn't work half of the time, same thing, remove the app from the app 
switcher and restart the device. . With Hulu, I can be browsing around and if I 
click on more details to learn more about a movie, the app will crash every 
time. These are just a few little annoyances that I am having to deal with. I 
have uninstalled the apps and reinstalled, but the problems still exist. My 
software is up to date as well. The device seemed more stable when it was first 
released than it is now. I guess one of the software updates caused these 
problems.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV 4th Generation

Can you describe what issues you have with Netflix and Youtube?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 3:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Generation

I love mine, but lately I have been noticing some glitches that make  me very 
unhappy, especially with NetFlix and YouTube. I am hoping an update for either 
the Apple TV or for the apps themselves will be released soon that will fix 
these issues. Overall though, I love it and don't regret getting mine.

-Original Message-
From: christopher hallsworth
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:56 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Apple TV 4th Generation

Evening everyone.

Your owner and myself are investigating in the Apple TV 4th Generation.
Apart from the book I’ve just bought from Mosen Consulting, “Apple TV 4th 
Generation with VoiceOver”, how are you personally finding it? One of the 
reasons we may be upgrading is the lack of security and bug fix updates in the 
Apple TV 3rd Generation and of course be up in the world . But one other 
somewhat mysterious reason is I’ve heard from the owner that it can change the 
source of an HD TV without one ever having to do it themselves. While we are no 
Apple engineers, we suspect it could be to do with our boxes. Any thoughts 
greatly appreciated. Thank you.


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