Re: Tunein premium & the World Series

[Christopher Chaltain]

I just switched to the Cleveland feed, and I do seem to be listening to 
the Indians' broadcasters.


On 25/10/16 22:20, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I didn't hear the Indians pregame show on the Cleveland feded, and I
switched to ESPN Radio before the actual game started, so I'm not sure
what happened on the Indians broadcast.

On 25/10/16 21:51, Michael Maslo wrote:

Tune in has both teams feed. Works great

Get Outlook for iOS 




On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:23 PM -0500, "Tim Mehok" > wrote:

Hi,
MLB has blocked the Cleveland announced broadcast of the World
Series.
The only exception that I know is Serious XM Satilite.
Can some one with Tunin radio Premium channel check to see if the
World Series game is the Cleveland  feed with Tom Hamilton as the
primary announcer?

Many thanks,
Tim

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Re: Tunein premium & the World Series

[Christopher Chaltain]

I didn't hear the Indians pregame show on the Cleveland feded, and I 
switched to ESPN Radio before the actual game started, so I'm not sure 
what happened on the Indians broadcast.


On 25/10/16 21:51, Michael Maslo wrote:

Tune in has both teams feed. Works great

Get Outlook for iOS 




On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:23 PM -0500, "Tim Mehok" > wrote:

Hi,
MLB has blocked the Cleveland announced broadcast of the World Series.
The only exception that I know is Serious XM Satilite.
Can some one with Tunin radio Premium channel check to see if the
World Series game is the Cleveland  feed with Tom Hamilton as the
primary announcer?

Many thanks,
Tim

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Re: Tunein premium & the World Series

[Michael Maslo]

Tune in has both teams feed. Works great

Get Outlook for iOS




On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:23 PM -0500, "Tim Mehok"  wrote:










Hi,
MLB has blocked the Cleveland announced broadcast of the World Series.
The only exception that I know is Serious XM Satilite.
Can some one with Tunin radio Premium channel check to see if the
World Series game is the Cleveland  feed with Tom Hamilton as the
primary announcer?

Many thanks,
Tim

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Tunein premium & the World Series

[Tim Mehok]

Hi,
MLB has blocked the Cleveland announced broadcast of the World Series.
The only exception that I know is Serious XM Satilite.
Can some one with Tunin radio Premium channel check to see if the
World Series game is the Cleveland  feed with Tom Hamilton as the
primary announcer?

Many thanks,
Tim

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Re: Braille: dot firmness?

[Flor Lynch]

No, Anna is correct. There is a specific JAWS setting called Dot Firmness. 
It isn't there in VoiceOver Braille settings on iPhone/i-devices. It has 
nothing to do with 6-dot or 8-dot Braille.


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jen,

go to voiceover, go to voiceover, then go to braille, then go to find
whatever you want. you can choose eight dot, input, eight dot output, and
others. you can try it.

anna, please make it clear that there is nothing in. thank you1

sincerely, rich


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Subject: Braille: dot firmness?

Hi all. Isn't there a setting under vo settings braille display to change
braille display dot firmness? I'm not finding it.
Thanks:
Jen

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RE: Activating 3-D touch

[Larry Lumpkin]

3-d touch should already be active by default. You can adjust the sensitivity 
in settings.


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I just got an iPhone 7 today and would like to know how to activate 3-D touch.  
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RE: Activating 3-D touch

[Alan Lemly]

Judy,

Go to Settings, General, Accessibility, 3D Touch and slide the sensitivity 
slider. On the same screen, you can turn 3D Touch off and on.

Alan Lemly

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Activating 3-D touch

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Hello:

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RE: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

[Alan Lemly]

Many thanks to those who replied to this thread. I'm convinced that glass is 
the way to go and just ordered the iPhone 7 6S 6 Screen Protector Glass, amFilm 
iPhone 7 Tempered Glass Screen Protector for Apple iPhone 7, iPhone 6S, iPhone 
6 2016, 2015 (2-Pack) from Amazon. This 2-pack showed a retail price of $29.99 
but Amazon had it on sale for $7.99. It listed as a bestseller and had a 
customer rating of 4.3 out of 5 starts. It is 0.33mm thick.

 

This is a very reasonable price for a tempered glass screen protector 2-pack 
and I even got free shipping with Amazon Prime.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

 

Like others, I have used standard film protector on my 4S and as I got 6S Plus 
I went for the tempered glass protector. I can't say is there a difference or 
not because I didn't use 3D touch with film protector or without it but from my 
point of view, it works correctly, there are no latencies and it is sensitive 
enough for smooth operation.

Regarding the quality of tempered glass protectors it can vary. I saw 
protectors about 3 or 4 mm thick and I saw thin protectors, about 2 mm. The 
thickness of the protector can be seen around the Home button. I believe 
thicker protectors are more expensive and hopefuly better. I had experienced 
two protectors in about a year. My first thicker protector broke when I 
accidentally pushed the phone from the fridge and it bumped onto kitchen tiles. 
This one was about 15 bucks in the stores. The second one I got for about 10 
bucks in store and it is thiner and works for now. It misses a tiny part on the 
top center but it is almost invisible and can be treated as part of the design. 
I can't be sure bu I suspect with the second protector my phone became less 
sensitive in the corners while performing double tap. I can't be sure so I 
won't put the blame on the protector.

You also need to pay attentiion is the protector properly fixed to the screen. 
It is not as flexible as the film protectors and if it doesn't lay well on the 
surface you could experience sensitivity glitches.

 

 

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25.10.2016. u 21:13, Alan Lemly je napisao/la:

Hello List,

 

I've only ever used a film screen protector on the two iPhones I've owned. I'm 
starting to look at accessories for the iPhone 7 which I'm planning to get at 
the beginning of February and wanted to get opinions from those who have used 
glass screen protectors on their iPhones.

 

I've always considered glass screen protectors to be more than I needed with 
the care I take with my iPhone and have never been fully convinced that they 
don't interfere with the touch sensitivity of the iPhone. However, I don't want 
to make assumptions about such things and would prefer to get comments from 
those on the list who actually use a glass screen protector with their iDevice. 
I'm particularly interested in the opinions of those who have them with models 
6S and higher that have 3D Touch capability and if they have noticed any affect 
the glass screen protector has on 3D Touch efficacy.

 

I see on Amazon a very wide range of prices of glass screen protectors from $6 
up and one from Tech21 who makes the case I use which goes for about $35 for 
the iPhone 7. This is quite a range and I'm having a hard time reconciling the 
differences which account for such a range. I'd love to hear from anyone who 
has recommendations about a specific glass screen protector model and about 
what it costs.

 

Thanks in advance for any comments you can provide.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Dice world

[Rajmund]

Hi,
Sure. I'm braille0109, and I'll play any game. 




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Dice world

[Louise Johnson]

Hi everyone I am writing as I am wanting to know if others on the list would
like to play games with me.

 

My user name is herclouise 

 

I play three games 

 

Farkol 

Three's 

1, 4, 24 

 

If you want me to add you please send your user name and I will add you. 

 

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RE: Alexxa App

[Larry Lumpkin]

I know people who have set up their wi-fi for alexa just fine.  Jonathan in his 
book says the ios app and windows app work fine.


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Jim Ruby
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Subject: RE: Alexxa App

This is not so great news as I just purchased an echo dot, but all this aside 
what do you all use your echo for? Is the skills accessible either on ie web or 
in the alexa app?

They should be here tomorrow, so I guess I'll be either having success or 
hitting a brick wall.




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Chip Orange
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Subject: RE: Alexxa App

I too could not setup the wifi portion of the Echo Dot using the Alexa app, and 
finally had to get sighted help to do this (I don't have a mac to fallback to).

I've been complaining to Amazon for several months (being an original Echo 
owner) about a list of accessibility issues with the Alwxa app, and with the 
Alexa web page when used via the Internet Explorer Windows browser; they have 
done absolutely nothing at all to fix any of the problems.  They are the least 
responsive large company I have yet come across as regards accessibility issues.

Chip



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Subject: Alexxa App

Hey all,

I am a long time owner of the Amazon Echo and was very excited to have my new 
Dot arrive today. Unfortunately the accessibility of the Alexa app has gone 
backwards. I could not set up my Dot in the app, as I could not get the connect 
to wifi part to work and VO crashed multiple times when trying to do so. I also 
deleted the Alexxa app and reinstalled it thinking there might have been a bug 
on my end. No luck. Do not even bother trying to set up the Dot on the mac as 
all wifi networks are read as one continuous list and you can't select your 
wifi network. What finally worked setting the Dot up was doing it in Chrome on 
the mac as the Amazon set up page read all wifi networks as it should be 
different items. Anyway just wanted to get this out there as I spent hours 
trying to get the Dot up and running. It seems to be connected and working fine 
now just waiting it to reboot as I changed the wake word and thought this might 
be helpful to someone.

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Re: Alexxa App

[kg7fa2]

Hi all, I just got an Echo Dot and had no problem setting it up with the
I-phone app.  I did have some issues with the app when trying to add
skills, but the Amazon Echo page works grate with Windows 7, using NVDA,
and Firefox.

HTH:
John
 


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Re: Braille: dot firmness?

[Paul Richard McGann]

jen,

go to voiceover, go to voiceover, then go to braille, then go to find 
whatever you want. you can choose eight dot, input, eight dot output, and 
others. you can try it.


anna, please make it clear that there is nothing in. thank you1

sincerely, rich


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Subject: Braille: dot firmness?

Hi all. Isn't there a setting under vo settings braille display to change 
braille display dot firmness? I'm not finding it.

Thanks:
Jen

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RE: Alexxa App

[Jim Ruby]

This is not so great news as I just purchased an echo dot, but all this aside 
what do you all use your echo for? Is the skills accessible either on ie web or 
in the alexa app?

They should be here tomorrow, so I guess I'll be either having success or 
hitting a brick wall.




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Chip Orange
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Alexxa App

I too could not setup the wifi portion of the Echo Dot using the Alexa app, and 
finally had to get sighted help to do this (I don't have a mac to fallback to).

I've been complaining to Amazon for several months (being an original Echo 
owner) about a list of accessibility issues with the Alwxa app, and with the 
Alexa web page when used via the Internet Explorer Windows browser; they have 
done absolutely nothing at all to fix any of the problems.  They are the least 
responsive large company I have yet come across as regards accessibility issues.

Chip



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Subject: Alexxa App

Hey all,

I am a long time owner of the Amazon Echo and was very excited to have my new 
Dot arrive today. Unfortunately the accessibility of the Alexa app has gone 
backwards. I could not set up my Dot in the app, as I could not get the connect 
to wifi part to work and VO crashed multiple times when trying to do so. I also 
deleted the Alexxa app and reinstalled it thinking there might have been a bug 
on my end. No luck. Do not even bother trying to set up the Dot on the mac as 
all wifi networks are read as one continuous list and you can't select your 
wifi network. What finally worked setting the Dot up was doing it in Chrome on 
the mac as the Amazon set up page read all wifi networks as it should be 
different items. Anyway just wanted to get this out there as I spent hours 
trying to get the Dot up and running. It seems to be connected and working fine 
now just waiting it to reboot as I changed the wake word and thought this might 
be helpful to someone.

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Re: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Like others, I have used standard film protector on my 4S and as
  I got 6S Plus I went for the tempered glass protector. I can't say
  is there a difference or not because I didn't use 3D touch with
  film protector or without it but from my point of view, it works
  correctly, there are no latencies and it is sensitive enough for
  smooth operation.
Regarding the quality of tempered glass protectors it can vary. I
  saw protectors about 3 or 4 mm thick and I saw thin protectors,
  about 2 mm. The thickness of the protector can be seen around the
  Home button. I believe thicker protectors are more expensive and
  hopefuly better. I had experienced two protectors in about a year.
  My first thicker protector broke when I accidentally pushed the
  phone from the fridge and it bumped onto kitchen tiles. This one
  was about 15 bucks in the stores. The second one I got for about
  10 bucks in store and it is thiner and works for now. It misses a
  tiny part on the top center but it is almost invisible and can be
  treated as part of the design. I can't be sure bu I suspect with
  the second protector my phone became less sensitive in the corners
  while performing double tap. I can't be sure so I won't put the
  blame on the protector.
You also need to pay attentiion is the protector properly fixed
  to the screen. It is not as flexible as the film protectors and if
  it doesn't lay well on the surface you could experience
  sensitivity glitches.
 



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25.10.2016. u 21:13, Alan Lemly je
  napisao/la:


  
  
  
  
Hello
List,
 
I've
only ever used a film screen protector on the two iPhones
I've owned. I'm starting to look at accessories for the
iPhone 7 which I'm planning to get at the beginning of
February and wanted to get opinions from those who have used
glass screen protectors on their iPhones.
 
I've
always considered glass screen protectors to be more than I
needed with the care I take with my iPhone and have never
been fully convinced that they don't interfere with the
touch sensitivity of the iPhone. However, I don't want to
make assumptions about such things and would prefer to get
comments from those on the list who actually use a glass
screen protector with their iDevice. I'm particularly
interested in the opinions of those who have them with
models 6S and higher that have 3D Touch capability and if
they have noticed any affect the glass screen protector has
on 3D Touch efficacy.
 
I
see on Amazon a very wide range of prices of glass screen
protectors from $6 up and one from Tech21 who makes the case
I use which goes for about $35 for the iPhone 7. This is
quite a range and I'm having a hard time reconciling the
differences which account for such a range. I'd love to hear
from anyone who has recommendations about a specific glass
screen protector model and about what it costs.
 
Thanks
in advance for any comments you can provide.
 
Alan
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Re: after shokz bone conduction head phones

[Lois Butterfield]

I have some on order because I get ear infections from having ear buds in 
most of the time.


The user manual is on their website.  You may want to read that to find out 
what the different buttons do.  It does state that the ear plugs make the 
music sound better.


I'm looking forward to getting them.

Take care,
Lois

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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: after shokz bone conduction head phones

They are indeed earplugs. The instructions do state that you may experience 
better sound with your ears plugged in a safe environment. Mainly though, 
they include them so people can have proof that they are hearing through 
their bones and not their ears.


The buttons may vary from different models but I can tell you what they do 
on the Trekz Titaniums. The triangular button on the left will do several 
things. It can be held in and will say voice dial but on iOS, it will 
activate Siri. The two buttons on the right set the volume up or down but 
only when sound is playing. Otherwise, they announce the battery level. The 
volume up button nearest the right earphone will also act as a power button. 
Hold it in for a long press to turn on or off the headset. There's a way to 
reset the headphones also but I can't remember it. Hope that helps. Enjoy 
the headset. It's not the best for recording or for high quality listening 
but they're great for when you're out and about needing your ears free and 
not caring so much for sound quality.


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On Oct 25, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:

My aftershokz don't have earplugs.  I have the old wired ones.


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Subject: after shokz bone conduction head phones

So we just got ours today and were playing with them. Are these ear plugs 
that come with them? If so, why? Also is there a way to get better sound 
out of the mic? Still working with the two buttons on the side to figure 
out what all they do. We got them paired to the iPhone right away with no 
trouble. But we did try  a face time call and it sounds like you're inside 
a tin can.


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RE: Alexxa App

[Chip Orange]

Oh yes, I had this problem as well, and again had to fall back to sighted help 
after rebooting the phone did not work.

Chip


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Brian Fischler
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alexxa App

Hey Deb, Yeah I had the same issue with the app quitting when trying to use the 
language picker. That is when I uninstalled the app and reinstalled but no 
luck. Thanks for the heads up on how you got past it. I ended up using chrome 
> On Oct 20, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
> On 10/20/16, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>> I set up my Dot successfully using the Iphone app. I thought it was
>> going to be problematic because when I got to the language picker, it
>> kept closing the app when I would try to pick. And it didn't show a
>> default language. I rebooted my phone becaue I've noticed that this is
>> sometimes necessary in iOS10. It was a little sluggish during the
>> install, but everything worked exactly as it should and I got it up
>> and running. So I'd recommend rebooting the phone if it's problematic.
>> 
>> On 10/20/16, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> I am a long time owner of the Amazon Echo and was very excited to have my
>>> new Dot arrive today. Unfortunately the accessibility of the Alexa app
>>> has
>>> gone backwards. I could not set up my Dot in the app, as I could not get
>>> the
>>> connect to wifi part to work and VO crashed multiple times when trying to
>>> do
>>> so. I also deleted the Alexxa app and reinstalled it thinking there might
>>> have been a bug on my end. No luck. Do not even bother trying to set up
>>> the
>>> Dot on the mac as all wifi networks are read as one continuous list and
>>> you
>>> can't select your wifi network. What finally worked setting the Dot up
>>> was
>>> doing it in Chrome on the mac as the Amazon set up page read all wifi
>>> networks as it should be different items. Anyway just wanted to get this
>>> out
>>> there as I spent hours trying to get the Dot up and running. It seems to
>>> be
>>> connected and working fine now just waiting it to reboot as I changed the
>>> wake word and thought this might be helpful to someone.
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RE: Alexxa App

[Chip Orange]

I too could not setup the wifi portion of the Echo Dot using the Alexa app, and 
finally had to get sighted help to do this (I don't have a mac to fallback to).

I've been complaining to Amazon for several months (being an original Echo 
owner) about a list of accessibility issues with the Alwxa app, and with the 
Alexa web page when used via the Internet Explorer Windows browser; they have 
done absolutely nothing at all to fix any of the problems.  They are the least 
responsive large company I have yet come across as regards accessibility issues.

Chip



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Brian Fischler
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Alexxa App

Hey all,

I am a long time owner of the Amazon Echo and was very excited to have my new 
Dot arrive today. Unfortunately the accessibility of the Alexa app has gone 
backwards. I could not set up my Dot in the app, as I could not get the connect 
to wifi part to work and VO crashed multiple times when trying to do so. I also 
deleted the Alexxa app and reinstalled it thinking there might have been a bug 
on my end. No luck. Do not even bother trying to set up the Dot on the mac as 
all wifi networks are read as one continuous list and you can't select your 
wifi network. What finally worked setting the Dot up was doing it in Chrome on 
the mac as the Amazon set up page read all wifi networks as it should be 
different items. Anyway just wanted to get this out there as I spent hours 
trying to get the Dot up and running. It seems to be connected and working fine 
now just waiting it to reboot as I changed the wake word and thought this might 
be helpful to someone.

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Re: VoiceOver and 3D touch?

[Wayne Merritt]

Press harder and you will hear a pop sound. That is the context menu
which has popped up. If you press too hard, the phone may interpret it
as a double tap and the app will open. That has happened to me a
number of times. It takes practice.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 10/25/16, ‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎  wrote:
> Yes.
>
> Sent from  my iphone
>
> ‫ב-25 באוק׳ 2016, בשעה 21:53, ‏‏christopher hallsworth
> ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>
>> Oh ok so what do we do? Press harder on the icon to bring up its shortcuts
>> just like the sighted or non-VoiceOver user?
>>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 19:45, ⁨ליאל בן סימון⁩ <⁨liel...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Chriss 3D touch works wel with VoiceOver. i am using iPhone 7 and
>>> VoiceOver works fine with this.
>>> I love it.
>>>
>>> 2016-10-25 21:12 GMT‎+03:00‎, christopher hallsworth
>>> :
 Hi guys, how do VoiceOver and 3D Touch  work together on iPhone 6s and
 later?


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RE: ios10.1 is out now

[Chip Orange]

That’s how I would have thought it would work, given the definition of the two 
finger flick up jesture???

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ios10.1 is out now

 

Hi,

 

I tried to flick up in mail, and it starts reading from the back button. It 
stayed on the same message, but it doesn't read from the top of the message. It 
starts from the top of the screen. 

 

Jenn 

Jenn and Kumi


On Oct 24, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Rajmund  wrote:

Hi,
Anyone knows of the iPad reading bug, where flicking up with 2 fingers read 
entirely the wrong thing got fixed or not, please?



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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From: Scott Davert  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, October 24, 2016 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: ios10.1 is out now




 

 

I'm very happy to report that the bug for braille users in the Mail

app where who the message is from is displayed on each line has been

exterminated!

 

Scott

 

On 10/24/16, Davy Cuppens  wrote:

Regards

Davy

 

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Terrible signal sound at log in screen

[Terje Strømberg]

Hi,

Terrible signal sound at log in screen after shut down the log in screen IOS 
10. Is it possible to turn off or change this sound?

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Re: Update on dice world and it is a good one

[regina alvarado]

I just received an email from the developer stating that by tomorrow there will 
be an update that will allow audio ducking to be turned back on without losing 
sounds. 


Reggie and Lex


On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:21 PM, Rajmund  wrote:

Hi,
That explains it,  my audio ducking has always been off.



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- Original Message -
From: Louise Johnson  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:10 pm
Subject: Update on dice world and it is a good one

> 
> 
> Hi everyone I have great news I have had a friend who helped me solve the 
> dice world quieter dice problem.
> 
> You need to turn off Audio Ducking. I will share where to find this if you 
> want to try it.
> 
> You can open accessibility settings first.
> You then open voice over settings 
> You then go to audio settings and open it. It is on my phone just below 
> braille.
> You then go down to audio ducking and turn it off.
> 
> I have my sounds back hoping this helps others get there's back also. Mine 
> were quieter and now there what they were before the update. 
> 
> I am using IOS Ten with a phone and it is the SE phone.
> 
> Please share if this helps you as if it does I would like to share it with 
> the developers so they can help others with the sounds to.
> 
> Louise and princess Kiara 
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Re: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

[regina alvarado]

I have used glass screen protectors for 2 years now. In my opinion they are 
great. The 3 d touch is not changed with the way they are put on. They are 
extremely thin. It is a smoother texture. Not only that, but I dropped my phone 
on cement, never to be repeated if I have anything to say about it, and when I 
checked about my insurance it was the screen protector that shattered in one 
corner but the phone glass was totally intact. All that was done was to replace 
my screen protector. I would get one from Amazon, however, as in the stores 
they are very expensive. I think mine cost about 10 dollars on Amazon. 


Reggie and Lex


On Oct 25, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Hello List,
 
I've only ever used a film screen protector on the two iPhones I've owned. I'm 
starting to look at accessories for the iPhone 7 which I'm planning to get at 
the beginning of February and wanted to get opinions from those who have used 
glass screen protectors on their iPhones.
 
I've always considered glass screen protectors to be more than I needed with 
the care I take with my iPhone and have never been fully convinced that they 
don't interfere with the touch sensitivity of the iPhone. However, I don't want 
to make assumptions about such things and would prefer to get comments from 
those on the list who actually use a glass screen protector with their iDevice. 
I'm particularly interested in the opinions of those who have them with models 
6S and higher that have 3D Touch capability and if they have noticed any affect 
the glass screen protector has on 3D Touch efficacy.
 
I see on Amazon a very wide range of prices of glass screen protectors from $6 
up and one from Tech21 who makes the case I use which goes for about $35 for 
the iPhone 7. This is quite a range and I'm having a hard time reconciling the 
differences which account for such a range. I'd love to hear from anyone who 
has recommendations about a specific glass screen protector model and about 
what it costs.
 
Thanks in advance for any comments you can provide.
 
Alan Lemly
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Re: Update on dice world and it is a good one

[Rajmund]

Hi,
That explains it,  my audio ducking has always been off.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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From: Louise Johnson  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:10 pm
Subject: Update on dice world and it is a good one

>
>
> Hi everyone I have great news I have had a friend who helped me solve the 
> dice world quieter dice problem.
>  
> You need to turn off Audio Ducking. I will share where to find this if you 
> want to try it.
>  
> You can open accessibility settings first.
> You then open voice over settings 
> You then go to audio settings and open it. It is on my phone just below 
> braille.
> You then go down to audio ducking and turn it off.
>  
> I have my sounds back hoping this helps others get there's back also. Mine 
> were quieter and now there what they were before the update. 
>  
> I am using IOS Ten with a phone and it is the SE phone.
>  
> Please share if this helps you as if it does I would like to share it with 
> the developers so they can help others with the sounds to.
>  
> Louise and princess Kiara 
>  
>  
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Update on dice world and it is a good one

[Louise Johnson]

Hi everyone I have great news I have had a friend who helped me solve the
dice world quieter dice problem.

 

You need to turn off Audio Ducking. I will share where to find this if you
want to try it.

 

You can open accessibility settings first.

You then open voice over settings 

You then go to audio settings and open it. It is on my phone just below
braille.

You then go down to audio ducking and turn it off.

 

I have my sounds back hoping this helps others get there's back also. Mine
were quieter and now there what they were before the update. 

 

I am using IOS Ten with a phone and it is the SE phone.

 

Please share if this helps you as if it does I would like to share it with
the developers so they can help others with the sounds to.

 

Louise and princess Kiara 

 

 

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RE: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi Alan,

 

I have a glass screen protector on my iPhone 6S and I’m very happy with it. I’m 
afraid I don’t remember the brand, as it was part of my Christmas present from 
my brother. I know that it was a reputable brand which I had heard of, and in 
the medium price range.

 

I do use 3D Touch and it works fine for me. I didn’t do a “before and after” 
comparison, as I had only had the phone for a couple of days when the protector 
was applied and I hadn’t experimented with 3D Touch at that stage. I haven’t 
noticed any lack of screen sensitivity or responsiveness on my 6S compared to 
previous iPhones, on which I used film screen protectors. I have a light touch, 
so I think I would soon have become frustrated with an unresponsive screen.

 

HTH,

 

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: 25 October 2016 21:13
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

 

Hello List,

 

I've only ever used a film screen protector on the two iPhones I've owned. I'm 
starting to look at accessories for the iPhone 7 which I'm planning to get at 
the beginning of February and wanted to get opinions from those who have used 
glass screen protectors on their iPhones.

 

I've always considered glass screen protectors to be more than I needed with 
the care I take with my iPhone and have never been fully convinced that they 
don't interfere with the touch sensitivity of the iPhone. However, I don't want 
to make assumptions about such things and would prefer to get comments from 
those on the list who actually use a glass screen protector with their iDevice. 
I'm particularly interested in the opinions of those who have them with models 
6S and higher that have 3D Touch capability and if they have noticed any affect 
the glass screen protector has on 3D Touch efficacy.

 

I see on Amazon a very wide range of prices of glass screen protectors from $6 
up and one from Tech21 who makes the case I use which goes for about $35 for 
the iPhone 7. This is quite a range and I'm having a hard time reconciling the 
differences which account for such a range. I'd love to hear from anyone who 
has recommendations about a specific glass screen protector model and about 
what it costs.

 

Thanks in advance for any comments you can provide.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

[Mary Otten]

Hi Alan,
I have used a glass screen protector on an iPhone 5s, 6S, and now my 7+. With 
regard to 3D Touch, I don't see any difference. And frankly, I like the way the 
glass feels as opposed to the film ones. My finger seems to slide over the 
screen more smoothly than it does with the film. Unfortunately, I don't 
remember who made the various screen protectors I have, but I can tell you that 
none of them was very expensive, like 10 bucks or less. I also have a cheap 
screen protector made out of glass on a Google Nexus six. That doesn't have the 
3D Touch of course, but the screen protector has worked well. I wouldn't worry 
about it. Find one that has good reviews on Amazon that isn't very expensive 
and go for it. There is no reason to pay 30 or $35 for a glass screen protector.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Hello List,
>  
> I've only ever used a film screen protector on the two iPhones I've owned. 
> I'm starting to look at accessories for the iPhone 7 which I'm planning to 
> get at the beginning of February and wanted to get opinions from those who 
> have used glass screen protectors on their iPhones.
>  
> I've always considered glass screen protectors to be more than I needed with 
> the care I take with my iPhone and have never been fully convinced that they 
> don't interfere with the touch sensitivity of the iPhone. However, I don't 
> want to make assumptions about such things and would prefer to get comments 
> from those on the list who actually use a glass screen protector with their 
> iDevice. I'm particularly interested in the opinions of those who have them 
> with models 6S and higher that have 3D Touch capability and if they have 
> noticed any affect the glass screen protector has on 3D Touch efficacy.
>  
> I see on Amazon a very wide range of prices of glass screen protectors from 
> $6 up and one from Tech21 who makes the case I use which goes for about $35 
> for the iPhone 7. This is quite a range and I'm having a hard time 
> reconciling the differences which account for such a range. I'd love to hear 
> from anyone who has recommendations about a specific glass screen protector 
> model and about what it costs.
>  
> Thanks in advance for any comments you can provide.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: after shokz bone conduction head phones

[Michael Feir]

They are indeed earplugs. The instructions do state that you may experience 
better sound with your ears plugged in a safe environment. Mainly though, they 
include them so people can have proof that they are hearing through their bones 
and not their ears.

The buttons may vary from different models but I can tell you what they do on 
the Trekz Titaniums. The triangular button on the left will do several things. 
It can be held in and will say voice dial but on iOS, it will activate Siri. 
The two buttons on the right set the volume up or down but only when sound is 
playing. Otherwise, they announce the battery level. The volume up button 
nearest the right earphone will also act as a power button. Hold it in for a 
long press to turn on or off the headset. There's a way to reset the headphones 
also but I can't remember it. Hope that helps. Enjoy the headset. It's not the 
best for recording or for high quality listening but they're great for when 
you're out and about needing your ears free and not caring so much for sound 
quality. 

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> On Oct 25, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> My aftershokz don't have earplugs.  I have the old wired ones.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: after shokz bone conduction head phones
> 
> So we just got ours today and were playing with them. Are these ear plugs 
> that come with them? If so, why? Also is there a way to get better sound out 
> of the mic? Still working with the two buttons on the side to figure out what 
> all they do. We got them paired to the iPhone right away with no trouble. But 
> we did try  a face time call and it sounds like you're inside a tin can.
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Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

[Alan Lemly]

Hello List,

 

I've only ever used a film screen protector on the two iPhones I've owned.
I'm starting to look at accessories for the iPhone 7 which I'm planning to
get at the beginning of February and wanted to get opinions from those who
have used glass screen protectors on their iPhones.

 

I've always considered glass screen protectors to be more than I needed with
the care I take with my iPhone and have never been fully convinced that they
don't interfere with the touch sensitivity of the iPhone. However, I don't
want to make assumptions about such things and would prefer to get comments
from those on the list who actually use a glass screen protector with their
iDevice. I'm particularly interested in the opinions of those who have them
with models 6S and higher that have 3D Touch capability and if they have
noticed any affect the glass screen protector has on 3D Touch efficacy.

 

I see on Amazon a very wide range of prices of glass screen protectors from
$6 up and one from Tech21 who makes the case I use which goes for about $35
for the iPhone 7. This is quite a range and I'm having a hard time
reconciling the differences which account for such a range. I'd love to hear
from anyone who has recommendations about a specific glass screen protector
model and about what it costs.

 

Thanks in advance for any comments you can provide.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: VoiceOver and 3D touch?

[‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎]

Yes.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-25 באוק׳ 2016, בשעה 21:53, ‏‏christopher hallsworth 
‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Oh ok so what do we do? Press harder on the icon to bring up its shortcuts 
> just like the sighted or non-VoiceOver user?
>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 19:45, ⁨ליאל בן סימון⁩ <⁨liel...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
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>> Hey Chriss 3D touch works wel with VoiceOver. i am using iPhone 7 and
>> VoiceOver works fine with this.
>> I love it.
>> 
>> 2016-10-25 21:12 GMT‎+03:00‎, christopher hallsworth 
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>>> Hi guys, how do VoiceOver and 3D Touch  work together on iPhone 6s and
>>> later?
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Re: VoiceOver and 3D touch?

[christopher hallsworth]

Oh ok so what do we do? Press harder on the icon to bring up its shortcuts just 
like the sighted or non-VoiceOver user?
> On 25 Oct 2016, at 19:45, ⁨ליאל בן סימון⁩ <⁨liel...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
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> Hey Chriss 3D touch works wel with VoiceOver. i am using iPhone 7 and
> VoiceOver works fine with this.
> I love it.
> 
> 2016-10-25 21:12 GMT‎+03:00‎, christopher hallsworth 
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RE: after shokz bone conduction head phones

[Larry Lumpkin]

My aftershokz don't have earplugs.  I have the old wired ones.


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Subject: after shokz bone conduction head phones

So we just got ours today and were playing with them. Are these ear plugs that 
come with them? If so, why? Also is there a way to get better sound out of the 
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Re: Braille: dot firmness?

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks Ana. I was getting IOS and jaws mixed up. My bad. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Jen,
> 
> No, the iPhone doesn't have a setting for dot firmness.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
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>> Hi all. Isn't there a setting under vo settings braille display to change 
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>> Thanks:
>> Jen
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Re: VoiceOver and 3D touch?

[ליאל בן סימון]

Hey Chriss 3D touch works wel with VoiceOver. i am using iPhone 7 and
VoiceOver works fine with this.
I love it.

2016-10-25 21:12 GMT‎+03:00‎, christopher hallsworth :
> Hi guys, how do VoiceOver and 3D Touch  work together on iPhone 6s and
> later?
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after shokz bone conduction head phones

[Gordon]

So we just got ours today and were playing with them. Are these ear 
plugs that come with them? If so, why? Also is there a way to get better 
sound out of the mic? Still working with the two buttons on the side to 
figure out what all they do. We got them paired to the iPhone right away 
with no trouble. But we did try  a face time call and it sounds like 
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VoiceOver and 3D touch?

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Hi guys, how do VoiceOver and 3D Touch  work together on iPhone 6s and later?


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Re: ios10.1 is out now

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all,

I upgraded ios 10.1, and I have no problem with  mail. I ran test and it 
looks wonderful.


sincerely,
rich


-Original Message- 
From: Rajmund

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 5:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ios10.1 is out now

HI,
Sounds like the bug where VoiceOver crashes after sending an email. That, is 
unfortunately, still not fixed. I do, if that helps, experience it.




Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Paul Richard McGann  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:47 am
Subject: Re: ios10.1 is out now




scott davert and anyone,

here is post from my dear friend from canada. she has iphone 5. can anyone
hep us? please thank you!

here is post after my name below:

sincerely,
rich

-Original Message- 
From: Barbara Milner

Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:58 PM
To: Paul Richard McGann
Subject: Re: ios10.1 is out now

Can you post new message with subject said  the word 'send' keeps freezing
for few seconds to a minute every time I reply e mail since IOS 8 so is
there a way how to resolved this matter as no one have the same problem as 
I

have. I don't undertand. I can't seem to figure it out as it is annoying.

Thanks

Barbara


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Re: Braille: dot firmness?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Jen,

No, the iPhone doesn't have a setting for dot firmness.

Best,
Anna



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> Hi all. Isn't there a setting under vo settings braille display to change 
> braille display dot firmness? I'm not finding it.
> Thanks:
> Jen
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Re: photos questions

[Gordon]

Found it. It's hidden under the albums tab in the photos app. I never 
would have thought to look there.



On 10/25/2016 9:31 AM, Tom Rash wrote:

I think there's a recently deleted photos folder.  Not sure, but maybe that's 
what's taking up space.


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Subject: photos questions

So I'm stuck with the 16 gig SE until I get the iPhone 7. I looked in
storage and it shows that I have 5 photos using 23 megs in photo
library. However when I open the photos app, there's nothing there under
any of the tabs. I have taken photos, but I deleted those. I don't have
iCloud backup turned on since that was all disabled when I did the
incripted backup through iTunes. Any idea where to find these phots so I
can free up a little space? I'm not hurting for space, but every little
bit helps especially if it's not being used.



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RE: photos questions

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I think there's a recently deleted photos folder.  Not sure, but maybe that's 
what's taking up space.


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Subject: photos questions

So I'm stuck with the 16 gig SE until I get the iPhone 7. I looked in 
storage and it shows that I have 5 photos using 23 megs in photo 
library. However when I open the photos app, there's nothing there under 
any of the tabs. I have taken photos, but I deleted those. I don't have 
iCloud backup turned on since that was all disabled when I did the 
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RE: Inaccessible Apple survey, sometimes I really wonder what the heck they are thinking or if they indeed are thinking

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, Twitter is one of the services I never got into much, used it here and 
there to follow a few people, but I always seem to end up getting off it again 
since I usually find ways to follow my interests in other ways. If you or 
anybody else who is on it wants to post this feel free to use what I have 
written.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Lange
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 6:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Inaccessible Apple survey, sometimes I really wonder what the heck 
they are thinking or if they indeed are thinking

Hi Sieghard,
Are you on Twitter? If so,I have some suggestions. Carbon-copying Apple 
Accessibility was definitely a good idea, but maybe you could post your 
complaint to the Applevis forum so that others are aware of the issue. When you 
know that your complaint is up on Applevis, send out a tweet with a link to 
your post in the Applevis forum, and send a direct message (with the same link 
to Applevis) via Twitter to Apple Support, which is on Twitter. I know they're 
on Twitter because I follow them and see their tweets every now and again. 
Putting the complaint up on Twitter may draw more attention to the situation. 
Just some thughts.

Sent from my iPhone 7

On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:10 AM, Lois Butterfield 
> wrote:
Hi,

I have had this same issue with the last several surveys I have attempted to 
fill out.  Usually, I will get some distance into it before I hit a section 
where there are no links, boxes, or buttons.  It is definitely a trend.

I’m glad you are able and willing in this case to write Apple another way to 
let them know.

Best regards,
Lois

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Inaccessible Apple survey, sometimes I really wonder what the heck 
they are thinking or if they indeed are thinking

Hello Listers and Apple Accessibility team (or maybe I should say Apple 
Inaccessibility Team),,

I recently purchased an Apple Watch and already pointed out that the usually 
very accessible Apple Store app did not allow me to order the watch. No matter 
what I tried, the app wanted to send the watch to the nearest Apple Store 
which, as I am in Calgary right now, was the Apple Store at Market Mall. No 
matter what I did I could not figure out how to make it send it to my home 
address. Eventually I ordered it online using my Windows laptop which was 
relatively straight forward and painless. Apart from the fact that during the 
order process I was told that it would ship in 3 to 4 weeks where in reality it 
shipped from China the next day everything was fine.
A couple of days later I received an email asking for my feedback regarding the 
ordering process. I thought this would be a good chance for me to give really 
low scores and, if a comment field existed, to describe how I could not order 
the watch using the Apple Store app because of the reason described above. I 
clicked on the link for the survey, the first screen was just some information 
and I activated the “Next” link.
On the following page were 3 questions regarding how satisfied I was with the 
ordering process, whether I would order again from the apple online store and 
whether I would recommend the Apple online store to a friend. Each answer had 
the usual “strongly disagree”, to “strongly agree” or whatever the exact 
wording was. Jaws also read numbers from 1 to 5, but there were no checkboxes 
or radio buttons. At first I thought that this probably is fine, I just click 
on the number I want and while it didn’t read it as a radio button, checkbox or 
link I thought it would work. I did so for all three questions and clicked 
next. Nothing happened and when I checked back I saw something to the effect of 
“You must have forgotten to complete one of the questions, please review your 
response”. No matter what I did I could apparently not rank my responses and 
continue to the next step. I tried this with Jaws using Internet Explorer, Jaws 
using Firefox and also with Safari and Voiceover on my iPhone, all with the 
same result.
In order to save me the time to type this again I am CC’ing Apple Accessibility 
on this since I think it is just a joke and complete craziness that Apple 
apparently is not capable of creating a survey which is fully accessible. There 
is nothing simpler than to create an accessible survey and for a company which 
basically invented the concept of main stream accessibility to not make sure 
their surveys can be completed by visually impaired users is beyond my 
comprehension. I’d love to hear how Tim Cook would reply to this if I could 
tell him about this directly. In the meantime I guess I’ll probably just ask a 
sighted person to help me complete this survey and I will give the lowest 
ranking possible on 

Re: Inaccessible Apple survey, sometimes I really wonder what the heck they are thinking or if they indeed are thinking

[Tom Lange]

Hi Sieghard,
Are you on Twitter? If so,I have some suggestions. Carbon-copying Apple 
Accessibility was definitely a good idea, but maybe you could post your 
complaint to the Applevis forum so that others are aware of the issue. When you 
know that your complaint is up on Applevis, send out a tweet with a link to 
your post in the Applevis forum, and send a direct message (with the same link 
to Applevis) via Twitter to Apple Support, which is on Twitter. I know they're 
on Twitter because I follow them and see their tweets every now and again. 
Putting the complaint up on Twitter may draw more attention to the situation. 
Just some thughts.

Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 5:10 AM, Lois Butterfield  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I have had this same issue with the last several surveys I have attempted to 
> fill out.  Usually, I will get some distance into it before I hit a section 
> where there are no links, boxes, or buttons.  It is definitely a trend.
>  
> I’m glad you are able and willing in this case to write Apple another way to 
> let them know.
>  
> Best regards,
> Lois
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Inaccessible Apple survey, sometimes I really wonder what the heck 
> they are thinking or if they indeed are thinking
>  
> Hello Listers and Apple Accessibility team (or maybe I should say Apple 
> Inaccessibility Team),,
>  
> I recently purchased an Apple Watch and already pointed out that the usually 
> very accessible Apple Store app did not allow me to order the watch. No 
> matter what I tried, the app wanted to send the watch to the nearest Apple 
> Store which, as I am in Calgary right now, was the Apple Store at Market 
> Mall. No matter what I did I could not figure out how to make it send it to 
> my home address. Eventually I ordered it online using my Windows laptop which 
> was relatively straight forward and painless. Apart from the fact that during 
> the order process I was told that it would ship in 3 to 4 weeks where in 
> reality it shipped from China the next day everything was fine.
> A couple of days later I received an email asking for my feedback regarding 
> the ordering process. I thought this would be a good chance for me to give 
> really low scores and, if a comment field existed, to describe how I could 
> not order the watch using the Apple Store app because of the reason described 
> above. I clicked on the link for the survey, the first screen was just some 
> information and I activated the “Next” link.
> On the following page were 3 questions regarding how satisfied I was with the 
> ordering process, whether I would order again from the apple online store and 
> whether I would recommend the Apple online store to a friend. Each answer had 
> the usual “strongly disagree”, to “strongly agree” or whatever the exact 
> wording was. Jaws also read numbers from 1 to 5, but there were no checkboxes 
> or radio buttons. At first I thought that this probably is fine, I just click 
> on the number I want and while it didn’t read it as a radio button, checkbox 
> or link I thought it would work. I did so for all three questions and clicked 
> next. Nothing happened and when I checked back I saw something to the effect 
> of “You must have forgotten to complete one of the questions, please review 
> your response”. No matter what I did I could apparently not rank my responses 
> and continue to the next step. I tried this with Jaws using Internet 
> Explorer, Jaws using Firefox and also with Safari and Voiceover on my iPhone, 
> all with the same result.
> In order to save me the time to type this again I am CC’ing Apple 
> Accessibility on this since I think it is just a joke and complete craziness 
> that Apple apparently is not capable of creating a survey which is fully 
> accessible. There is nothing simpler than to create an accessible survey and 
> for a company which basically invented the concept of main stream 
> accessibility to not make sure their surveys can be completed by visually 
> impaired users is beyond my comprehension. I’d love to hear how Tim Cook 
> would reply to this if I could tell him about this directly. In the meantime 
> I guess  I’ll probably just ask a sighted person to help me complete this 
> survey and I will give the lowest ranking possible on each question and hope 
> there is a comment field where I can express my feelings about such a stupid 
> oversight.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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photos questions

[Gordon]

So I'm stuck with the 16 gig SE until I get the iPhone 7. I looked in 
storage and it shows that I have 5 photos using 23 megs in photo 
library. However when I open the photos app, there's nothing there under 
any of the tabs. I have taken photos, but I deleted those. I don't have 
iCloud backup turned on since that was all disabled when I did the 
incripted backup through iTunes. Any idea where to find these phots so I 
can free up a little space? I'm not hurting for space, but every little 
bit helps especially if it's not being used.


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Re: Inaccessible Apple survey, sometimes I really wonder what the heck they are thinking or if they indeed are thinking

[Lois Butterfield]

Hi,

I have had this same issue with the last several surveys I have attempted to 
fill out.  Usually, I will get some distance into it before I hit a section 
where there are no links, boxes, or buttons.  It is definitely a trend.

I’m glad you are able and willing in this case to write Apple another way to 
let them know.

Best regards,
Lois

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Inaccessible Apple survey, sometimes I really wonder what the heck 
they are thinking or if they indeed are thinking

Hello Listers and Apple Accessibility team (or maybe I should say Apple 
Inaccessibility Team),,

 

I recently purchased an Apple Watch and already pointed out that the usually 
very accessible Apple Store app did not allow me to order the watch. No matter 
what I tried, the app wanted to send the watch to the nearest Apple Store 
which, as I am in Calgary right now, was the Apple Store at Market Mall. No 
matter what I did I could not figure out how to make it send it to my home 
address. Eventually I ordered it online using my Windows laptop which was 
relatively straight forward and painless. Apart from the fact that during the 
order process I was told that it would ship in 3 to 4 weeks where in reality it 
shipped from China the next day everything was fine.

A couple of days later I received an email asking for my feedback regarding the 
ordering process. I thought this would be a good chance for me to give really 
low scores and, if a comment field existed, to describe how I could not order 
the watch using the Apple Store app because of the reason described above. I 
clicked on the link for the survey, the first screen was just some information 
and I activated the “Next” link.

On the following page were 3 questions regarding how satisfied I was with the 
ordering process, whether I would order again from the apple online store and 
whether I would recommend the Apple online store to a friend. Each answer had 
the usual “strongly disagree”, to “strongly agree” or whatever the exact 
wording was. Jaws also read numbers from 1 to 5, but there were no checkboxes 
or radio buttons. At first I thought that this probably is fine, I just click 
on the number I want and while it didn’t read it as a radio button, checkbox or 
link I thought it would work. I did so for all three questions and clicked 
next. Nothing happened and when I checked back I saw something to the effect of 
“You must have forgotten to complete one of the questions, please review your 
response”. No matter what I did I could apparently not rank my responses and 
continue to the next step. I tried this with Jaws using Internet Explorer, Jaws 
using Firefox and also with Safari and Voiceover on my iPhone, all with the 
same result.

In order to save me the time to type this again I am CC’ing Apple Accessibility 
on this since I think it is just a joke and complete craziness that Apple 
apparently is not capable of creating a survey which is fully accessible. There 
is nothing simpler than to create an accessible survey and for a company which 
basically invented the concept of main stream accessibility to not make sure 
their surveys can be completed by visually impaired users is beyond my 
comprehension. I’d love to hear how Tim Cook would reply to this if I could 
tell him about this directly. In the meantime I guess I’ll probably just ask a 
sighted person to help me complete this survey and I will give the lowest 
ranking possible on each question and hope there is a comment field where I can 
express my feelings about such a stupid oversight.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: ios10.1 is out now

[rajmund]

Hi, they do on phone, yes.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 25 Oct 2016, at 1:21 am, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Messages shows up on my rotor with thread view off. 
> 
> Donna
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Actually, it shows up on the phone, even though thread vieow is off.
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel > To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" > Date sent: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 21:08:43 +
>> Subject: RE: ios10.1 is out now
>> 
>> These automatic rotor features are context sensitive and show up only when 
>> required.  Messages relates to going through email messages when you use 
>> threads/conversations and while the option is there even if it's just a 
>> single email, I can see how it is not there if you disable the feature.  As 
>> far as I am concerned it works great and I love how I can skip through a 
>> conversation and read the messages.  If I enable to have new messages on top 
>> then the conversation opens to the newest message and in this case that 
>> message is called message 1 of 5 (if, for example, there are 5 messages in 
>> the conversation).  The original message is then announced as message 5 of 
>> 5.  This takes a bit of getting used to because it may seem more logical if 
>> the original message was called message 1.  If I really like it that way I 
>> can accomplish this by turning off to put new messages on top in Settings > 
>> Mail.  Then if I open a thread/conversation the original message has focus 
>> and it is called message 1, then I can flick down with one finger to go to 
>> each consequent message in the conversation until I reach the newest one.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Rajmund
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 12:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ios10.1 is out now
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> On iPad, if thread view is off, messages don't even show up on the rotor.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Scott Davert  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Monday, October 24, 2016 7:47 pm
>> Subject: Re: ios10.1 is out now
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jen.
>> Did you make sure that your rotor was set to "messages"? I have
>> noticed that sometimes, and not very often, the rotor doesn't follow
>> you around in Mail.  It's one of those non-verifiable things that just
>> happens randomly, so I haven't been able to report it.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 10/24/16, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I tried to flick up in mail, and it starts reading from the back
>> button.  It stayed on the same message, but it doesn't read from the top of 
>> the message.
>> It starts from the top of the screen.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Anyone knows of the iPad reading bug, where flicking up with 2
>> fingers read entirely the wrong thing got fixed or not, please?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Scott Davert  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Monday, October 24, 2016 6:11 pm
>> Subject: Re: ios10.1 is out now
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm very happy to report that the bug for braille users in the
>> Mail app where who the message is from is displayed on each line
>> has been exterminated!
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 10/24/16, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>> Regards
>> Davy
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Braille: dot firmness?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all. Isn't there a setting under vo settings braille display to change 
braille display dot firmness? I'm not finding it.
Thanks:
Jen

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Forwarding messages via whatsapp

[turab chimthanawala]

Hello guys
I often struggle to forward messages via whatsapp especially group
chats. I use the double tap and hold gesture. But it often does not
work, in the sense that voice over continually keeps reading the
message rather than the dialogue box containing Reply , Forward etc.
options appearing. Also I have tried using the triple tap gesture but
to no avail.
Would like to know any other effective method.
Besgtt
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Re: ios10.1 is out now

[Rajmund]

HI,
Sounds like the bug where VoiceOver crashes after sending an email. That, is 
unfortunately, still not fixed. I do, if that helps, experience it.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Paul Richard McGann  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:47 am
Subject: Re: ios10.1 is out now

>
>
> scott davert and anyone,
> 
> here is post from my dear friend from canada. she has iphone 5. can anyone 
> hep us? please thank you!
> 
> here is post after my name below:
> 
> sincerely,
> rich
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Barbara Milner
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:58 PM
> To: Paul Richard McGann
> Subject: Re: ios10.1 is out now
> 
> Can you post new message with subject said  the word 'send' keeps freezing 
> for few seconds to a minute every time I reply e mail since IOS 8 so is 
> there a way how to resolved this matter as no one have the same problem as I 
> have. I don't undertand. I can't seem to figure it out as it is annoying.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Barbara
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Inaccessible Apple survey, sometimes I really wonder what the heck they are thinking or if they indeed are thinking

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I too can absolutely corroborate the experience with their surveys it is quite 
disappointing.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Inaccessible Apple survey, sometimes I really wonder what the heck 
they are thinking or if they indeed are thinking

Hello Listers and Apple Accessibility team (or maybe I should say Apple 
Inaccessibility Team),,

 

I recently purchased an Apple Watch and already pointed out that the usually 
very accessible Apple Store app did not allow me to order the watch. No matter 
what I tried, the app wanted to send the watch to the nearest Apple Store 
which, as I am in Calgary right now, was the Apple Store at Market Mall. No 
matter what I did I could not figure out how to make it send it to my home 
address. Eventually I ordered it online using my Windows laptop which was 
relatively straight forward and painless. Apart from the fact that during the 
order process I was told that it would ship in 3 to 4 weeks where in reality it 
shipped from China the next day everything was fine.

A couple of days later I received an email asking for my feedback regarding the 
ordering process. I thought this would be a good chance for me to give really 
low scores and, if a comment field existed, to describe how I could not order 
the watch using the Apple Store app because of the reason described above. I 
clicked on the link for the survey, the first screen was just some information 
and I activated the “Next” link.

On the following page were 3 questions regarding how satisfied I was with the 
ordering process, whether I would order again from the apple online store and 
whether I would recommend the Apple online store to a friend. Each answer had 
the usual “strongly disagree”, to “strongly agree” or whatever the exact 
wording was. Jaws also read numbers from 1 to 5, but there were no checkboxes 
or radio buttons. At first I thought that this probably is fine, I just click 
on the number I want and while it didn’t read it as a radio button, checkbox or 
link I thought it would work. I did so for all three questions and clicked 
next. Nothing happened and when I checked back I saw something to the effect of 
“You must have forgotten to complete one of the questions, please review your 
response”. No matter what I did I could apparently not rank my responses and 
continue to the next step. I tried this with Jaws using Internet Explorer, Jaws 
using Firefox and also with Safari and Voiceover on my iPhone, all with the 
same result.

In order to save me the time to type this again I am CC’ing Apple Accessibility 
on this since I think it is just a joke and complete craziness that Apple 
apparently is not capable of creating a survey which is fully accessible. There 
is nothing simpler than to create an accessible survey and for a company which 
basically invented the concept of main stream accessibility to not make sure 
their surveys can be completed by visually impaired users is beyond my 
comprehension. I’d love to hear how Tim Cook would reply to this if I could 
tell him about this directly. In the meantime I guess I’ll probably just ask a 
sighted person to help me complete this survey and I will give the lowest 
ranking possible on each question and hope there is a comment field where I can 
express my feelings about such a stupid oversight.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Inaccessible Apple survey, sometimes I really wonder what the heck they are thinking or if they indeed are thinking

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Listers and Apple Accessibility team (or maybe I should say Apple 
Inaccessibility Team),,

I recently purchased an Apple Watch and already pointed out that the usually 
very accessible Apple Store app did not allow me to order the watch. No matter 
what I tried, the app wanted to send the watch to the nearest Apple Store 
which, as I am in Calgary right now, was the Apple Store at Market Mall. No 
matter what I did I could not figure out how to make it send it to my home 
address. Eventually I ordered it online using my Windows laptop which was 
relatively straight forward and painless. Apart from the fact that during the 
order process I was told that it would ship in 3 to 4 weeks where in reality it 
shipped from China the next day everything was fine.
A couple of days later I received an email asking for my feedback regarding the 
ordering process. I thought this would be a good chance for me to give really 
low scores and, if a comment field existed, to describe how I could not order 
the watch using the Apple Store app because of the reason described above. I 
clicked on the link for the survey, the first screen was just some information 
and I activated the "Next" link.
On the following page were 3 questions regarding how satisfied I was with the 
ordering process, whether I would order again from the apple online store and 
whether I would recommend the Apple online store to a friend. Each answer had 
the usual "strongly disagree", to "strongly agree" or whatever the exact 
wording was. Jaws also read numbers from 1 to 5, but there were no checkboxes 
or radio buttons. At first I thought that this probably is fine, I just click 
on the number I want and while it didn't read it as a radio button, checkbox or 
link I thought it would work. I did so for all three questions and clicked 
next. Nothing happened and when I checked back I saw something to the effect of 
"You must have forgotten to complete one of the questions, please review your 
response". No matter what I did I could apparently not rank my responses and 
continue to the next step. I tried this with Jaws using Internet Explorer, Jaws 
using Firefox and also with Safari and Voiceover on my iPhone, all with the 
same result.
In order to save me the time to type this again I am CC'ing Apple Accessibility 
on this since I think it is just a joke and complete craziness that Apple 
apparently is not capable of creating a survey which is fully accessible. There 
is nothing simpler than to create an accessible survey and for a company which 
basically invented the concept of main stream accessibility to not make sure 
their surveys can be completed by visually impaired users is beyond my 
comprehension. I'd love to hear how Tim Cook would reply to this if I could 
tell him about this directly. In the meantime I guess I'll probably just ask a 
sighted person to help me complete this survey and I will give the lowest 
ranking possible on each question and hope there is a comment field where I can 
express my feelings about such a stupid oversight.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Question regarding changing the sound of dice world notification

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everybody,


Thank you all for the help with my Dice World issue. I had no clue this 
was a bug, as I hadn't ever had it happen before. So I thought it was 
something to do with updating the games.


Now all is fine, after restarting my phone.


Terri


On 10/24/2016 2:01 PM, Rajmund wrote:
> Hi,
> Reboot the phone. It's an IOS10 bug. To me, it always always happens with 
> hangouts.
>
>
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Terri Stimmel  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups. com"  
> Date: Monday, October 24, 2016 7:41 pm
> Subject: Question regarding changing the sound of dice world notification
>
>>
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> I think I already know the answer to this question. But I thought I would go 
>> ahead and ask it anyway. Yesterday I updated the Dice World app. I noticed 
>> right away that the sounds were quieter. But this didn't really bother me.
>> What really bothered me was that now instead of hearing dice roll, when 
>> somebody takes a turn, it plays the tritone sound.
>>
>> I do not like this, and I do not want this! That sound plays when I get a 
>> voicemail, or when I get a news alert, or for other important things like 
>> that. I don't want that to play just for my dice game, as I find that silly, 
>> and annoying! It makes me think I'm going to get some news alert I need to 
>> pay attention to.
>>
>>
>> So I was wondering, is there anyway I can change the sound that plays, when 
>> somebody I am playing against takes a turn?
>> I did go into settings, and into dice world, but I didn't see where I could 
>> change the sound. So I am assuming I cannot do this. Any help with this 
>> would be greatly appreciated. I want to know when somebody takes a turn of 
>> coarse. I just don't want to hear that sound for the dice games.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Terri
>>
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>
>>
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Re: format and reinstall Mac

[Gianni]

Could someone please tell me which video? I would like to hear voiceover.


Gianni

Skype: giannijuve
Sent from my iPhone

> Op 10-aug.-2016 om 16:22 heeft Sieghard Weitzel  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Not sure which video exactly you refer to, but if you google “video about 
> format and reinstall mac” you get a whole bunch of search results from 
> Youtube about various formatting/reinstalling/resetting Mac computers. If 
> this doesn’t produce the one you want you may want to try one of the Mac 
> specific lists.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gianni
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 5:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: format and reinstall Mac
>  
> Does anyone have the link to this video?
> 
> 
> Gianni
>  
> Skype: giannijuve
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Op 4-jul.-2016 om 16:17 heeft matthew dyer  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Mike Arego did an audio demo of how to do this.  I beleave it is on the 
> blindgeekzone website.
> 
>  
> 
> Matthew
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> On 07/04/16 07:51, Gianni wrote:
> Why? And is there a step to step guide?
> 
> 
> Gianni
>  
> Skype: giannijuve
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Op 4-jul.-2016 om 08:52 heeft M. Taylor  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hello Gianni,
> 
> The short answer to your question is, yes.  The Mac is fully accessible, via 
> VoiceOver from start to finish in terms of formatting the hard drive and 
> installing a fresh copy of the operating system.
> 
> However, I strongly recommend against a novice VoiceOver user attempting such 
> a task.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gianni
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 5:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: format and reinstall Mac
> 
> Dear, 
> Does anyone have a step to step guide on how to format and install a MacBook. 
> Is it possible for us to do this, I'm blind.
> 
> Gianni
> 
> Skype: giannijuve
> Sent from my iPhone
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Even in iOS 10.1 the iBook VoiceOver Continuous Reading Bug Continues

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

A while ago I posted to the groups describing what I consider to be an iBook
VoiceOver continuous reading bug given that the behavior did not occur in
previous versions of iOS.  

After posting, a couple of iOS beta testers reported that this issue had
been resolved in iOS 10.1.  

Well, as you can guess, I updated to iOS 10.1 and the bug, in my opinion,
persists.  

I am going to paste in a modified copy of my previous post on this and see
if any of you can reproduce it in iOS 10.1.

[ORIGINAL TEXT]
My preferred method for reading iOS iBook titles is to use the two-finger,
swipe-down VoiceOver gesture, in order to initiate continuous reading of the
text.  Please note that I am not referring to the Speak Screen accessibility
feature.

In short, my display is set to automatically lock after 30 seconds.  In the
previous versions of IOS, performing a 2-finger swipe down, in an iBook
title, would suspend the auto-lock and allow for continuous reading of the
text.  This does not appear to be the case, any longer.

This is to say, in certain titles, such as those containing imbedded
hyperlinks, the auto-lock engages, cancelling the continuous reading mode.

I first discovered this, last night, while reading the Apple TV User Guide.
The same phenomenon occurred when I tested my hypothesis with the iPhone
User Guide for iOS 10 and iPhone User Guide for iOS 9.3.  

At first, I thought it was some kind of issue with titles produced by Apple
but I tested a recently published (non Apple) title, that has a web link
imbedded in the text, and, just as with the Apple manuals, after less than 1
minute, the screen locked and reading ceased.  

It should be noted, that the hyperlinks that exist in the Table of Contents,
used to jump to a specific area, does not cause interruption to the
continuous reading feature.  I say this because titles in my Library,
containing only such links, read as expected.

Steps to Reproduce:

1.
>From Settings/General/Display and Brightness, set Auto Lock to 30 seconds.

2.
In iBook, open the Apple TV User Guide and, from the table of contents,
select Home Sharing; or, open the iPhone User Guide for iOS 10 and, from the
table of contents, select Basics.

3.
Once the desired page is displayed, perform the two-finger swipe-down
VoiceOver gesture to initiate continuous reading.  

As I said, in my testing, each time either an imbedded hyperlink or heading
is encountered, a short time later, the screen will lock and reading will
stop.  

Please confirm if this occurs during your testing.

I would like to note that, this problem does not occur when using the Speak
Screen accessibility feature.  While certainly useful in some instances, the
Speak Screen feature is not my preferred method for reading iBook titles.  

Mark


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