Re: Battery Usage

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

This is my general experience when using anything gps.

R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Deidre Muccio" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 8:56 PM
Subject: Battery Usage


Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest phones came out 
they were posting about how the battery might last a 
couple days depending on what applications you're using. So today I was out and 
for about three hours I had location services on 
cellular data on and I had maps open. So the battery drains almost down to 
nothing in that period time which I thought was a little 
excessive. I had no other applications open.
Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a program so 
essential for many doesn't seem so great to me. Is this the 
type of battery drain other people are getting when they're using maps when 
they're driving a car with somebody and they have a 
location tracking on? I left the house with a fully charged phone.
I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my phone a lot! I 
rarely have anything open in the app switcher. I 
usually go to two or three applications at a time him and not even for very 
long. I also rather obsessively rarely have cellular 
data on and I almost never have location tracking on except when I want to 
check whether or I'm driving somewhere in the car with 
somebody.


Deidre


> On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
>
> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not using 
> it?
> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
> Richard
>
>
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the last
>> couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the last
>> 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my
>> mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned off;
>> it also says that the app has only been on in the background for one
>> minute. Any idea what's going on?
>>
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RE: wireless doorbells

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I also have the Ring Video Doorbell and it works fine.
August also makes one.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: wireless doorbells

The ring

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kayla King
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: wireless doorbells

Hhi all,
Just curious, has anyone found a good wireless doorbell for their IPhone that 
is compatible with voice over and works with the six+?  I’m looking for one 
that has the ability to talk to and see visitors from the IPhone from the other 
side of the door.
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RE: talking multimeter

[Sieghard Weitzel]

On the blind woodworkers group the General multimeter has also been mentioned. 
Thought I add that if anybody is interested that there is also a bluetooth 6 
inch caliper available as well as a digital bluetooth angle cube. After you 
pair these devices I just use the calculator app to hear the results as they 
are essentially just like a bluetooth input device and when you press the 
button on the device to send the measurement Voiceover will simply speak it.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: talking multimeter

Hi Michael,
I didn't look at all of the specs for the multi-meter,
so I am not sure of all of the ranges available.
I have an old meter here, but am not even sure if it reads in milliamps.

Take care,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael D. Ulrich" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: talking multimeter


Thanks Rick, I'll most likely by the saying, as it looks very much 
accessible. I'm also looking for a USB type of charging indicator. What I 
mean is, something to measure Milla amps as in my solar powered device 
charger. See what I'm saying?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Richard  wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
> I haven't looked for it on Amazon,
> but here are the links for GeneralTool
>
> https://www.generaltools.com/digital-tools/new-digital-tools
>
> is a listing of their new tools.
>
> https://www.generaltools.com/digital-tools/new-digital-tools/ts04-digitalmultimeter
>
> is the info on the multi-meter.
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Michael D. Ulrich" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: talking multimeter
>
>
> Hey Rick, how would I go about finding that particular multimeter by
> general, on Amazon?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Richard  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chip,
>> It is my understanding that "General Tool", also has several devices that
>> will
>> connect to a smart phone via bluetooth.
>> From what I have heard, their multi-meter can be had from Amazon for
>> around
>> $40.
>>
>> Rick Justice
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chip Orange" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:00 PM
>> Subject: talking multimeter
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Since I ran across an old friend who was (probably still is) a ham radio
>> operator, I thought I'd mention I just came across a multi-meter device
>> with
>> bluetooth, which transmits it's readings to a smartphone app, which will
>> speak them and/or record them.  You can find it at
>>
>> http://redfishinstruments.com
>>
>> and it's their IDVM (and their app is the IDVM2 in the app store).  I
>> think
>> it's the only thing they make/sell.
>>
>>
>>
>> The app is free and the device is $150.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Bizarre Battery Issue

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Try a Reset Network Settings.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelby Carlson
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue

I don't, and when I checked the app switcher it showed it as active for some 
reason.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue

>
>
> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not using 
> it?
> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
> Richard
> 
> 
> > On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> > 
> > All,
> > 
> > I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the 
> > last couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the 
> > last
> > 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my 
> > mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned 
> > off; it also says that the app has only been on in the background 
> > for one minute. Any idea what's going on?
> > 
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RE: some home button questions on the iphone 7

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Press the home button with a finger that you didn't register with Touch Id or 
use the power button on the side to wake up your phone. On the newer iPhones 
Touch Id is so good and fast that if you press the home button with the finger 
you registered it usually just unlocks you rphone.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 7:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: some home button questions on the iphone 7

Hey guys,

I had a question on the home button.  On my iphone 6, when i would press the 
home button, it would allow me to swipe through my most recent notifications 
that came in, and if i wanted to unlock it, i would hold my fignerprint.  The 
iphone 7 doesn't seem to be doing that, it seems that when i press the home 
button it just opens up.  I have a finger print setup.  Am i missing something?

Cheers,
Jed

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RE: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You probably refer to the Windows 10 application called the “Snipping Tool” 
which is different.
There is also the app called Zero Tap, haven’t used it in a while, but I think 
it it still works.
On the PC you just put a shortcut on the desktop to the Zerotap website, you 
can sign in and tell it to remember your user name and password, then write or 
paste your text in the text box on the PC and as soon as you open Zero Tap on 
the iPhone the text will be copied to the pasteboard, you can go to any app and 
paste it in.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

Isn’t that app included with Windows 10 now at least saw one named like it; 
but, might be a different name as would have to check.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:


Thanks a bunch!



I had completely forgotten about this app.



Now using it and it works great.



Don



On 28-Jan-17 9:54 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
I use an app called Snippets by Notable Group to copy data between my Windows 7 
computer and my iPhone 7. This app used to be named Text sync and uses a 
dedicated web page where you can copy data into a text box for pasting between 
the two.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Don Breda 
> wrote:

Hi listers.



I used to use a windows program called easy push and its iphone ap called 
UbiDisc.



The iPhone app is now to old.



this set of programs I could use to copy text from the clicpboard on my windows 
pc to my iPhone.



Any suggestions for a current set of programs to easily do this?



Thanks in advance.



Don


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RE: Naming Your Personal Digital Assistant

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think it should be "Q".


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Naming Your Personal Digital Assistant

Big Smile.

To All,

By the way, if you'd like to participate in this discussion on Twitter, compose 
a tweet that includes the hash tag NameMyAI.

For example one might tweet, (without the quotation marks), "I would #NameMyAI 
Bubba."
Include the @AppleSupport handle in your tweet and, who knows, perhaps Apple 
will take your suggestion.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Naming Your Personal Digital Assistant

Rumplestiltskin,
or
Ay'Yu.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:24 AM
Subject: Naming Your Personal Digital Assistant


Hello Everyone,

As some of you know, there are plans in the works to allow some popular
digital assistants to respond to custom named prompts.

While, as far as I know anyway, Apple as not yet disclosed plans to allow
for this, it is my hope that someday, they will.

So, I was just thinking about what name I would like to use for Siri, were I
given the option.  Hence, the subject of this thread.

Of course, being a lifelong Star Trek fan, my first inclination would be to
set my trigger word to "Computer"; as in, "Computer, cancel my appointment
with Oprah for tomorrow."   (smile)

However, as I began to think about it, I decided that perhaps, just perhaps,
the word "Computer", may not be the best choice, in the long run.

So, I came up with three names that I would like to use for my AI or
personal digital assistant with one runner-up.  They are:

1.
Christine.

2.
Maggie,.

3.
Cecil.

Runner-up:  Bobby.

(Big Smile)

Okay, it's your turn, please reply with your 3 top choices for your AI, were
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RE: Gesture Changes with Voiceover and Zoom

[Alan Lemly]

And if you want to copy the last thing VoiceOver spoke to your clipboard, 
you'll have to turn zoom off since the three-finger quadruple tap is the 
gesture to do this.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 7:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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The practice mode does not work if you have zoom and VoiceOver on.

Mostly, if zoom is on, it impacts the three finger gestures. As Helga said, 
mute speech becomes three finger triple tap.

Toggling the screen curtain becomes three finger quadruple tap.

I'll seem if the list I have has others.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

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Hi Tom  How are you? I'm not low vision, but I'm totally  blind,and I only use 
Voiceover not soom. However, I herd that in order to mute  speech of Voiceover 
you need to do three fingers triple  tap instead of doing three   fingers 
double tap. Question, did you try to do the Voiceover practice that is on 
settings when Voiceover and soom are running at the same time? You can practice 
gestures that way. I look forward in hearing from yousoon. Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber  

Group Moderator   

  

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On Jan 30, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:



Hey all,
I've been using iPhones with VoiceOver for six years now and consider myself to 
be very familiar with VoiceOver gestures but I'm not familiar with the extent 
to which Zoom changes VoiceOver gestures.  That causes problems for me when I 
attempt to teach someone with low vision to use an iPhone with the VoiceOver 
and Zoom  combination.  Is there any reference file out there which can help me 
learn the differences between when VoiceOver is running and when  VoiceOver and 
Zoom are running? I'd certainly find something like that useful, and I'm sure 
my students would, too. 

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Tom


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Re: VDR and pdf's with text in them.

[englishrider91]

Richard, you're a lifesaver! I totally missed that setting! I was a bit panicie 
when I was going through those settings, admitedly, so it probably just didn't 
register with me. Anyhow, thanks a heap! I've got things working right now. For 
future reference, they're the options right at the top of the visual settings 
screen, and you can choose between plain text and original layout.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:57 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't seem to have any pdf's to check, but it seems I remember a setting in 
> the visual settings when you have a pdf that gives you a choice between 
> viewing original pdf and the text, something like that. Did they change a 
> setting?
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
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> - Satsuki Shibuya
> 
> Sent with my iPod Touch 6)
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:35 PM, "englishride...@gmail.com" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I handed my phone to someone this afternoon to take a look at some 
>> instructions for a lock I recently purchased. I'd put the pdf file in VDR, 
>> and it read beautifully before I handed the person my phone. The pdf was 
>> completely accessible and wasn't just a picture of text, so VDR handled it 
>> just fine. When I got my phone back, I could no longer see the text of the 
>> pdf. All I'm getting now is the buttons of VDR, like the play button, the 
>> navigation button, ETC. When I press play, the text will read--I just can't 
>> see it with VO! Can someone please help? The person said the text vanished 
>> for them, too. How can I get the file's text to display? I'm super stumped. 
>> I've looked in the reader settings and the visual settings, but I didn't 
>> find anything that looked like what I want.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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RE: Gesture Changes with Voiceover and Zoom

[Richard Turner]

It looks like as far as gesture changes go, it is just those two three finger 
gestures.
But, as others have stated, VoiceOver and Zoom do not play well together.
They get out of sync in spite of the focus option in the zoom settings.
So, zoom might show something on the screen, but VoiceOver can be reading stuff 
that is not visual at that moment.  That is very confusing.
I try to convince clients to just use VoiceOver.  If they stick with it, they 
will be more efficient than having to enlarge the text especially on a phone.

HTH,
Richard


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Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gesture Changes with Voiceover and Zoom


The practice mode does not work if you have zoom and VoiceOver on.
Mostly, if zoom is on, it impacts the three finger gestures. As Helga said, 
mute speech becomes three finger triple tap.
Toggling the screen curtain becomes three finger quadruple tap.
I'll seem if the list I have has others.
HTH,
Richard


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Sent with my iPod Touch 6)



On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Helga Schreiber 
> wrote:
Hi Tom  How are you? I'm not low vision, but I'm totally  blind,and I only use 
Voiceover not soom. However, I herd that in order to mute  speech of Voiceover 
you need to do three fingers triple  tap instead of doing three   fingers 
double tap. Question, did you try to do the Voiceover practice that is on 
settings when Voiceover and soom are running at the same time? You can practice 
gestures that way. I look forward in hearing from yousoon. Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber
Group Moderator

  for the IPad help for the blind

ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io


Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
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Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com
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On Jan 30, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Tom Lange 
> wrote:


Hey all,
I've been using iPhones with VoiceOver for six years now and consider myself to 
be very familiar with VoiceOver gestures but I'm not familiar with the extent 
to which Zoom changes VoiceOver gestures.  That causes problems for me when I 
attempt to teach someone with low vision to use an iPhone with the VoiceOver 
and Zoom  combination.  Is there any reference file out there which can help me 
learn the differences between when VoiceOver is running and when  VoiceOver and 
Zoom are running? I'd certainly find something like that useful, and I'm sure 
my students would, too.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Tom


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Re: VDR and pdf's with text in them.

[Richard Turner]

I don't seem to have any pdf's to check, but it seems I remember a setting in 
the visual settings when you have a pdf that gives you a choice between viewing 
original pdf and the text, something like that. Did they change a setting?
Richard



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Sent with my iPod Touch 6)



On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:35 PM, 
"englishride...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:

I handed my phone to someone this afternoon to take a look at some instructions 
for a lock I recently purchased. I'd put the pdf file in VDR, and it read 
beautifully before I handed the person my phone. The pdf was completely 
accessible and wasn't just a picture of text, so VDR handled it just fine. When 
I got my phone back, I could no longer see the text of the pdf. All I'm getting 
now is the buttons of VDR, like the play button, the navigation button, ETC. 
When I press play, the text will read--I just can't see it with VO! Can someone 
please help? The person said the text vanished for them, too. How can I get the 
file's text to display? I'm super stumped. I've looked in the reader settings 
and the visual settings, but I didn't find anything that looked like what I 
want.


Thanks,
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Re: Gesture Changes with Voiceover and Zoom

[Scott Berry]

I have also heard that Zooms and Voiceover don’t always play well together 
either.  Not sure if that has changed in recent versions of IOS.


> On Jan 30, 2017, at 6:22 PM, Helga Schreiber  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tom  How are you? I'm not low vision, but I'm totally  blind,and I only 
> use Voiceover not soom. However, I herd that in order to mute  speech of 
> Voiceover you need to do three fingers triple  tap instead of doing three   
> fingers double tap. Question, did you try to do the Voiceover practice that 
> is on settings when Voiceover and soom are running at the same time? You can 
> practice gestures that way. I look forward in hearing from yousoon. Thanks 
> and God bless!
> 
>   Helga Schreiber 
> Group Moderator  
>  
>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>  
> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io 
>   
> 
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> Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
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> px 
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> 
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> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1
> 
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Tom Lange  > wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> I've been using iPhones with VoiceOver for six years now and consider myself 
>> to be very familiar with VoiceOver gestures but I'm not familiar with the 
>> extent to which Zoom changes VoiceOver gestures.  That causes problems for 
>> me when I attempt to teach someone with low vision to use an iPhone with the 
>> VoiceOver and Zoom  combination.  Is there any reference file out there 
>> which can help me learn the differences between when VoiceOver is running 
>> and when  VoiceOver and Zoom are running? I'd certainly find something like 
>> that useful, and I'm sure my students would, too. 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
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Re: Gesture Changes with Voiceover and Zoom

[Richard Turner]

The practice mode does not work if you have zoom and VoiceOver on.
Mostly, if zoom is on, it impacts the three finger gestures. As Helga said, 
mute speech becomes three finger triple tap.
Toggling the screen curtain becomes three finger quadruple tap.
I'll seem if the list I have has others.
HTH,
Richard



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- Satsuki Shibuya

Sent with my iPod Touch 6)



On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Helga Schreiber 
> wrote:

Hi Tom  How are you? I'm not low vision, but I'm totally  blind,and I only use 
Voiceover not soom. However, I herd that in order to mute  speech of Voiceover 
you need to do three fingers triple  tap instead of doing three   fingers 
double tap. Question, did you try to do the Voiceover practice that is on 
settings when Voiceover and soom are running at the same time? You can practice 
gestures that way. I look forward in hearing from yousoon. Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber
Group Moderator

  for the IPad help for the blind

ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
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On Jan 30, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Tom Lange 
> wrote:



Hey all,
I've been using iPhones with VoiceOver for six years now and consider myself to 
be very familiar with VoiceOver gestures but I'm not familiar with the extent 
to which Zoom changes VoiceOver gestures.  That causes problems for me when I 
attempt to teach someone with low vision to use an iPhone with the VoiceOver 
and Zoom  combination.  Is there any reference file out there which can help me 
learn the differences between when VoiceOver is running and when  VoiceOver and 
Zoom are running? I'd certainly find something like that useful, and I'm sure 
my students would, too.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Tom


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Re: Gesture Changes with Voiceover and Zoom

[Pete Nalda]

The biggest two problems are typing as zoom seems to interfere with editing, 
and the zoom panning and voiceover don't play well. VoiceOver seems to think 
I'm changing pages. I find it difficult, but not Impossible. 

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> On Jan 30, 2017, at 7:12 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
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> 
> 
> Hey all,
> I've been using iPhones with VoiceOver for six years now and consider myself 
> to be very familiar with VoiceOver gestures but I'm not familiar with the 
> extent to which Zoom changes VoiceOver gestures.  That causes problems for me 
> when I attempt to teach someone with low vision to use an iPhone with the 
> VoiceOver and Zoom  combination.  Is there any reference file out there which 
> can help me learn the differences between when VoiceOver is running and when  
> VoiceOver and Zoom are running? I'd certainly find something like that 
> useful, and I'm sure my students would, too. 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
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VDR and pdf's with text in them.

[englishrider91]

I handed my phone to someone this afternoon to take a look at some instructions 
for a lock I recently purchased. I'd put the pdf file in VDR, and it read 
beautifully before I handed the person my phone. The pdf was completely 
accessible and wasn't just a picture of text, so VDR handled it just fine. When 
I got my phone back, I could no longer see the text of the pdf. All I'm getting 
now is the buttons of VDR, like the play button, the navigation button, ETC. 
When I press play, the text will read--I just can't see it with VO! Can someone 
please help? The person said the text vanished for them, too. How can I get the 
file's text to display? I'm super stumped. I've looked in the reader settings 
and the visual settings, but I didn't find anything that looked like what I 
want.


Thanks,
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Re: Gesture Changes with Voiceover and Zoom

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi Tom  How are you? I'm not low vision, but I'm totally  blind,and I only use 
Voiceover not soom. However, I herd that in order to mute  speech of Voiceover 
you need to do three fingers triple  tap instead of doing three   fingers 
double tap. Question, did you try to do the Voiceover practice that is on 
settings when Voiceover and soom are running at the same time? You can practice 
gestures that way. I look forward in hearing from yousoon. Thanks and God bless!

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> On Jan 30, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hey all,
> I've been using iPhones with VoiceOver for six years now and consider myself 
> to be very familiar with VoiceOver gestures but I'm not familiar with the 
> extent to which Zoom changes VoiceOver gestures.  That causes problems for me 
> when I attempt to teach someone with low vision to use an iPhone with the 
> VoiceOver and Zoom  combination.  Is there any reference file out there which 
> can help me learn the differences between when VoiceOver is running and when  
> VoiceOver and Zoom are running? I'd certainly find something like that 
> useful, and I'm sure my students would, too. 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
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Gesture Changes with Voiceover and Zoom

[Tom Lange]

Hey all,
I've been using iPhones with VoiceOver for six years now and consider myself to 
be very familiar with VoiceOver gestures but I'm not familiar with the extent 
to which Zoom changes VoiceOver gestures.  That causes problems for me when I 
attempt to teach someone with low vision to use an iPhone with the VoiceOver 
and Zoom  combination.  Is there any reference file out there which can help me 
learn the differences between when VoiceOver is running and when  VoiceOver and 
Zoom are running? I'd certainly find something like that useful, and I'm sure 
my students would, too. 

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Tom
  

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Re: Finding things that are recommended on the list

[Christopher Chaltain]

Good advice, and I'd go further to say that if you add things like 
iPhone or App Store to your search, you'll probably find the link to the 
App Store in one of your first two or three hits. It's also a good idea 
to check the spelling of the app before searching for it in Google or 
your favorite web search engine.


On 30/01/17 08:50, Richard Turner wrote:

I’m not the moderator, so feel free to ignore this, but, if people
recommend products on this list and do not provide a link, I suggest you
start with a search on your favorite search engine, perhaps Google, or
DuckDuckGo.com, etc.

If you cannot find it, then send a question to the list or even the
person specifically who recommended it.   Nine times out of ten you will
find the item much faster that way.  In the time it takes you to write
an email to this list and ask where to find said item, you will have
already found it.  That way you don’t have to wait around until someone
decides to tell you where they got it.



Just a thought for the sake of efficiency.



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RE: Battery Usage

[Richard Turner]

The current version is 10.2.1, which fixed some VoiceOver issues.
At this point, you may want to wait for 10.3 to come out.
Richard


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Deidre Muccio
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Battery Usage

I have an iPhone 6. I haven't even uploaded 10.1.2 yet either.

Deidre


> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, rajmund  wrote:
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> hi,
> what version of the iPhone do you have?
> 
> Sent from Thunderbird
> 
>> On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
>> Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest phones came out 
>> they were posting about how the battery might last a couple days depending 
>> on what applications you're using. So today I was out and for about three 
>> hours I had location services on cellular data on and I had maps open. So 
>> the battery drains almost down to nothing in that period time which I 
>> thought was a little excessive. I had no other applications open.
>> Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a program so 
>> essential for many doesn't seem so great to me. Is this the type of battery 
>> drain other people are getting when they're using maps when they're driving 
>> a car with somebody and they have a location tracking on? I left the house 
>> with a fully charged phone.
>> I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my phone a lot! 
>> I rarely have anything open in the app switcher. I usually go to two or 
>> three applications at a time him and not even for very long. I also rather 
>> obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I almost never have location 
>> tracking on except when I want to check whether or I'm driving somewhere in 
>> the car with somebody.
>> 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not 
>>> using it?
>>> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
 
 All,
 
 I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the last
 couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the last
 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my
 mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned off;
 it also says that the app has only been on in the background for one
 minute. Any idea what's going on?
 
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Re: Battery Usage

[Deidre Muccio]

I have an iPhone 6. I haven't even uploaded 10.1.2 yet either.

Deidre


> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> what version of the iPhone do you have?
> 
> Sent from Thunderbird
> 
>> On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
>> Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest phones came out 
>> they were posting about how the battery might last a couple days depending 
>> on what applications you're using. So today I was out and for about three 
>> hours I had location services on cellular data on and I had maps open. So 
>> the battery drains almost down to nothing in that period time which I 
>> thought was a little excessive. I had no other applications open.
>> Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a program so 
>> essential for many doesn't seem so great to me. Is this the type of battery 
>> drain other people are getting when they're using maps when they're driving 
>> a car with somebody and they have a location tracking on? I left the house 
>> with a fully charged phone.
>> I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my phone a lot! 
>> I rarely have anything open in the app switcher. I usually go to two or 
>> three applications at a time him and not even for very long. I also rather 
>> obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I almost never have location 
>> tracking on except when I want to check whether or I'm driving somewhere in 
>> the car with somebody.
>> 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not 
>>> using it?
>>> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
 
 All,
 
 I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the last
 couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the last
 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my
 mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned off;
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RE: wireless doorbells

[Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)]

The ring

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kayla King
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: wireless doorbells

Hhi all,
Just curious, has anyone found a good wireless doorbell for their IPhone that 
is compatible with voice over and works with the six+?  I’m looking for one 
that has the ability to talk to and see visitors from the IPhone from the other 
side of the door.
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Re: Overcast Issue

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It has been this way for a while now.  Try the 2 finger scrub gesture.

Chris


> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
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> I've started using Overcast again and noticed that when I'm in the playback 
> window there is no dismiss button and so no way to get back to the main area. 
> Anyone encountered this?
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Re: Battery Usage

[Richard Turner]

GPS is one of the heaviest battery draining service around and Apple Maps seems 
to drain it more than others.
I would say getting 3 to 4 hours of continuous use with Maps is going to be 
pretty standard. If I'm using GPS in a car, I plug the phone into the car to 
keep it charged.
IF the car doesn't have a usb port, but has a cigarette lighter, you can get an 
adapter that plugs into the cigarette lighter that has a usb port so you can 
keep the phone charged when traveling.
HTH,
Richard


> On Jan 30, 2017, at 1:08 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> what version of the iPhone do you have?
> 
> Sent from Thunderbird
> 
>> On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
>> Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest phones came out 
>> they were posting about how the battery might last a couple days depending 
>> on what applications you're using. So today I was out and for about three 
>> hours I had location services on cellular data on and I had maps open. So 
>> the battery drains almost down to nothing in that period time which I 
>> thought was a little excessive. I had no other applications open.
>> Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a program so 
>> essential for many doesn't seem so great to me. Is this the type of battery 
>> drain other people are getting when they're using maps when they're driving 
>> a car with somebody and they have a location tracking on? I left the house 
>> with a fully charged phone.
>> I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my phone a lot! 
>> I rarely have anything open in the app switcher. I usually go to two or 
>> three applications at a time him and not even for very long. I also rather 
>> obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I almost never have location 
>> tracking on except when I want to check whether or I'm driving somewhere in 
>> the car with somebody.
>> 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not 
>>> using it?
>>> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
 
 All,
 
 I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the last
 couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the last
 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my
 mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned off;
 it also says that the app has only been on in the background for one
 minute. Any idea what's going on?
 
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Re: Battery Usage

[Richard Turner]

I think you will find if you take mail out of the app switcher, it will help a 
lot.
Richard


> On Jan 30, 2017, at 1:08 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> what version of the iPhone do you have?
> 
> Sent from Thunderbird
> 
>> On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
>> Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest phones came out 
>> they were posting about how the battery might last a couple days depending 
>> on what applications you're using. So today I was out and for about three 
>> hours I had location services on cellular data on and I had maps open. So 
>> the battery drains almost down to nothing in that period time which I 
>> thought was a little excessive. I had no other applications open.
>> Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a program so 
>> essential for many doesn't seem so great to me. Is this the type of battery 
>> drain other people are getting when they're using maps when they're driving 
>> a car with somebody and they have a location tracking on? I left the house 
>> with a fully charged phone.
>> I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my phone a lot! 
>> I rarely have anything open in the app switcher. I usually go to two or 
>> three applications at a time him and not even for very long. I also rather 
>> obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I almost never have location 
>> tracking on except when I want to check whether or I'm driving somewhere in 
>> the car with somebody.
>> 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not 
>>> using it?
>>> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
 
 All,
 
 I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the last
 couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the last
 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my
 mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned off;
 it also says that the app has only been on in the background for one
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[Kelby Carlson]

I've started using Overcast again and noticed that when I'm in the playback 
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Yahoo Fantasy Baseball

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Hey all,

Last fall we launched the inaugural iAccessVO Fantasy football league and it 
was a massive success. Thanks to the iPhone Yahoo app for those of you who like 
playing fantasy sports, everything is completely accessible through the app. 
From the draft to day to day management, Yahoo has done an amazing job making 
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let me know for the first time ever that Yahoo’s March madness brakets will be 
VoiceOVer accessible this year. We will also be launching a March Madness blind 
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Re: Battery Usage

[rajmund]

hi,
what version of the iPhone do you have?

Sent from Thunderbird

On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:

Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest phones came out 
they were posting about how the battery might last a couple days depending on 
what applications you're using. So today I was out and for about three hours I 
had location services on cellular data on and I had maps open. So the battery 
drains almost down to nothing in that period time which I thought was a little 
excessive. I had no other applications open.
Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a program so 
essential for many doesn't seem so great to me. Is this the type of battery 
drain other people are getting when they're using maps when they're driving a 
car with somebody and they have a location tracking on? I left the house with a 
fully charged phone.
I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my phone a lot! I 
rarely have anything open in the app switcher. I usually go to two or three 
applications at a time him and not even for very long. I also rather 
obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I almost never have location 
tracking on except when I want to check whether or I'm driving somewhere in the 
car with somebody.


Deidre



On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not using it?
If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
Richard



On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:

All,

I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the last
couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the last
24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my
mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned off;
it also says that the app has only been on in the background for one
minute. Any idea what's going on?

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Re: talking multimeter

[Richard]

Hi Michael,
I didn't look at all of the specs for the multi-meter,
so I am not sure of all of the ranges available.
I have an old meter here, but am not even sure if it reads in milliamps.

Take care,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael D. Ulrich" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: talking multimeter


Thanks Rick, I'll most likely by the saying, as it looks very much 
accessible. I'm also looking for a USB type of charging indicator. What I 
mean is, something to measure Milla amps as in my solar powered device 
charger. See what I'm saying?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Richard  wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
> I haven't looked for it on Amazon,
> but here are the links for GeneralTool
>
> https://www.generaltools.com/digital-tools/new-digital-tools
>
> is a listing of their new tools.
>
> https://www.generaltools.com/digital-tools/new-digital-tools/ts04-digitalmultimeter
>
> is the info on the multi-meter.
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Michael D. Ulrich" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: talking multimeter
>
>
> Hey Rick, how would I go about finding that particular multimeter by
> general, on Amazon?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Richard  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chip,
>> It is my understanding that "General Tool", also has several devices that
>> will
>> connect to a smart phone via bluetooth.
>> From what I have heard, their multi-meter can be had from Amazon for
>> around
>> $40.
>>
>> Rick Justice
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chip Orange" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:00 PM
>> Subject: talking multimeter
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Since I ran across an old friend who was (probably still is) a ham radio
>> operator, I thought I'd mention I just came across a multi-meter device
>> with
>> bluetooth, which transmits it's readings to a smartphone app, which will
>> speak them and/or record them.  You can find it at
>>
>> http://redfishinstruments.com
>>
>> and it's their IDVM (and their app is the IDVM2 in the app store).  I
>> think
>> it's the only thing they make/sell.
>>
>>
>>
>> The app is free and the device is $150.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
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Battery Usage

[Deidre Muccio]

Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest phones came out 
they were posting about how the battery might last a couple days depending on 
what applications you're using. So today I was out and for about three hours I 
had location services on cellular data on and I had maps open. So the battery 
drains almost down to nothing in that period time which I thought was a little 
excessive. I had no other applications open.
Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a program so 
essential for many doesn't seem so great to me. Is this the type of battery 
drain other people are getting when they're using maps when they're driving a 
car with somebody and they have a location tracking on? I left the house with a 
fully charged phone.
I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my phone a lot! I 
rarely have anything open in the app switcher. I usually go to two or three 
applications at a time him and not even for very long. I also rather 
obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I almost never have location 
tracking on except when I want to check whether or I'm driving somewhere in the 
car with somebody.


Deidre


> On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not using 
> it?
> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the last
>> couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the last
>> 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my
>> mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned off;
>> it also says that the app has only been on in the background for one
>> minute. Any idea what's going on?
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Re: Bizarre Battery Issue

[Kelby Carlson]

I don't, and when I checked the app switcher it showed it as active for some 
reason.

- Original Message -
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To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue

>
>
> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not using 
> it?
> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
> Richard
> 
> 
> > On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> > 
> > All,
> > 
> > I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the last
> > couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the last
> > 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my
> > mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned off;
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Apple watch

[Kathy Brack]

I received and apple watch for Christmas and at first it worked well using
Siri for phone calls and texting. Now it doesn't seem to be working at all.
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Re: odd message

[Richard Turner]

I had a similar thing happen with an iPhone 6s. I was on a trip using Google 
Maps, and all the sudden I heard SIM card not installed. 
I had to switch to my wife's phone.
When we got where we were going, I removed the case, popped the simm card out, 
and pushed it back in, never removing it completely.
That fixed it for a few weeks, then it did it again.
I did the same thing, and now two months later, it is still working fine.
No idea what happens, but it seems to have settled down.
Now, I keep a paperclip handy just in case.
Richard


> On Jan 30, 2017, at 9:50 AM, rajmund  wrote:
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> Hello,
> Have you tried removing, and reinserting your sim card?
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> Last week I updated my iPhone 7 to the latest version for the security 
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> phone, I hear two messages which say "sim card not installed," and "sim card 
> failure."  This happens with and without the charging cable plugged in at 
> 100% battery charge.  What on earth is going on and how do I fix it?  The 
> phone has not been dropped or damaged.  Thanks in advance for your ideas.
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Re: some home button questions on the iphone 7

[Jed Barton]

Hey there,

So i turned it off.  I take it if there are no notifications, when i 
press the button, the default screen will come up


On 1/30/2017 3:17 PM, Jennie Facer wrote:

Hi Jed,

In the accessibility settings, there is a home button group. Double tap
on where it says home button and there is a rest finger to open option.
You should turn this off if you want it to behave like it used to on your 6.

Hope this helps,

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On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:17 AM -0700, "Jed Barton" > wrote:

Hey guys,

I had a question on the home button.  On my iphone 6, when i would press
the home button, it would allow me to swipe through my most recent
notifications that came in, and if i wanted to unlock it, i would hold
my fignerprint.  The iphone 7 doesn't seem to be doing that, it seems
that when i press the home button it just opens up.  I have a finger
print setup.  Am i missing something?

Cheers,
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Re: Bizarre Battery Issue

[Richard Turner]

One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not using it?
If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
Richard


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Re: some home button questions on the iphone 7

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Jed,
In the accessibility settings, there is a home button group. Double tap on 
where it says home button and there is a rest finger to open option. You should 
turn this off if you want it to behave like it used to on your 6.
Hope this helps,
Jenn

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On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:17 AM -0700, "Jed Barton"  wrote:










Hey guys,

I had a question on the home button.  On my iphone 6, when i would press 
the home button, it would allow me to swipe through my most recent 
notifications that came in, and if i wanted to unlock it, i would hold 
my fignerprint.  The iphone 7 doesn't seem to be doing that, it seems 
that when i press the home button it just opens up.  I have a finger 
print setup.  Am i missing something?

Cheers,
Jed

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Bizarre Battery Issue

[kelby carlson]

All,

I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the last
couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the last
24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my
mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned off;
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Re: The rotor

[Davy Cuppens]

Deidre

This behaviour is reported as an ios voiceover bug.
Greetz
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Deidre Muccio

Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 2:11 AM
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Subject: The rotor

Hello all,
I hope this doesn't prove to be a very stupid question, and something I 
should've learned a long time ago…!
I do not understand why the router settings do not stay the same from let's 
say application to application or email to email even. So for instants if 
I'm doing something and I change the rotor to read me things by word, the 
next time I do something else in the next application or the next email or 
the next documents or the next edit field it switches back to something else 
and never stays where I just left it. This drives me absolutely crazy and I 
really do not want  to be making additional jesters over and over and over 
again.

Is there an easy explanation for this?

Deidre

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Re: Voice-over question

[liel ben simon]

Hi afik! VoiceOver reads the number as number and doesn’t reads as words. you 
can change in VoiceOver utilities. go to and there choose the “text” tab. 
choose “read number as” and there choose word instead numbers.

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re: odd message

[rajmund]

Hello,
Have you tried removing, and reinserting your sim card?

Sent from a BrailleNote


- Original Message -
From: Louise Peyton 

Beta email list for Mac and iOS.

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,

I have permission from Mark to post the below.


Just to let those interested know I run an email list for discussion of 
iOS and Mac betas.


Once people send a subscription request I send them an email with a 
question that hopefully ensures they are running a beta version and not 
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The subscription address is:

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odd message

[Louise Peyton]

Hello, all:
Last week I updated my iPhone 7 to the latest version for the security updates. 
 I was able to activate it with no problem.  Now, when I turn on the phone, I 
hear two messages which say "sim card not installed," and "sim card failure."  
This happens with and without the charging cable plugged in at 100% battery 
charge.  What on earth is going on and how do I fix it?  The phone has not been 
dropped or damaged.  Thanks in advance for your ideas.

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RE: talking multimeter

[Chip Orange]

Thanks ... big help to my friend who is looking, so I'll pass it along.

I did find another blind user who has successfully used the RedFish Instruments 
one, so looks like he'll have to take his chances on the General Tool one, as I 
haven't seen any verifying reports of accessibility yet.

Chip


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Subject: Re: talking multimeter

Hi Chip,
It is my understanding that "General Tool", also has several devices that will 
connect to a smart phone via bluetooth.
>From what I have heard, their multi-meter can be had from Amazon for around 
>$40.

Rick Justice
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Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:00 PM
Subject: talking multimeter


Hi all,



Since I ran across an old friend who was (probably still is) a ham radio
operator, I thought I'd mention I just came across a multi-meter device with
bluetooth, which transmits it's readings to a smartphone app, which will
speak them and/or record them.  You can find it at

http://redfishinstruments.com

and it's their IDVM (and their app is the IDVM2 in the app store).  I think
it's the only thing they make/sell.



The app is free and the device is $150.



Hth,



Chip



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RE: the red lazor app

[Chip Orange]

According to Richard, you do have to tap the heading which says "Scan" in order 
to make it scan after you've had one successful scan (or I think after you've 
gone to some other screen like its "settings" screen).

Try that, as I don't think it can hurt.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the red lazor app

Don,

It does work on iPhones.  You do not have to activate any buttons in order to 
get it to scan.  When you open the app, the camera is already on, so hold it 
over the item that has the barcode you want to scan.  It will make a sound when 
it finds the barcode.

Then you will see options that allow you to go to Amazon, Google, etc.  You 
will need to go to one of these in order to find the description of the barcode 
that the app found on the package.

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Don 
Risavy, Jr. [djrisav...@att.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the red lazor app

I’ve downloaded on my IPhone the NeoReader app and can’t seem to get it to work.
So what am I doing wrong or does it only work on I Pad’s?
Thanks.


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the red lazor app

hi,
Are you using something called Neo scan? I don't know this app, the one I have 
referred to is called NeoReader. so, not sure if the one you are using is 
accessible.
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 29 Jan 2017, at 18:07, Chip Orange 
> wrote:
Could someone tell me how to use the Neoscan app?  I am completely unable to 
get it to do anything other than allow me to hand enter a barcode; there seems 
to be no choice for it to use the camera to scan the item, although there is a 
choice to allow it to use a picture from your photos.

Thanks,

Chip



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the red lazor app

No, my bad and thanks for putting me straight!

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the red lazor app

hi,
We may be at Cross purposes here, this is just a barcode reader app. I really 
don't know if you can create your own labels or if you have to buy some kind of 
in app purchase for this… sorry if you've been misled.
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 29 Jan 2017, at 13:23, Mike Ulrich 
> wrote:
What about the labels, how much do they cost? Or can you print up your own?

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the red lazor app

I think it is free!
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 29 Jan 2017, at 12:32, Mike Ulrich 
> wrote:
How much does Neo Reader cost?

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the red lazor app

try Neo reader, it doesn't need to be aligned or frame the barcode.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 29 Jan 2017, at 01:15, Feliciano Godoy 
> wrote:
Unfortunately, we're laser has not worked but do you stew for about a year now. 
Digit-eyes works, With this app  you have to place the camera in the correct 
orientation to scan a barcode. Other than that, it works great!

Regards,
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On Jan 28, 2017, at 1:32 PM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> wrote:
Pam,
I think it does remove the ads, not sure though. however, I find I can use it 
just fine, the Addies only the bottom half of the screen and I only use the top 
half! so far, I find it quite good! if I put the tin on its side, and gently 
roll it, while moving the phone above it, it was fine is the barcode!

I am sorry if this doesn't read well, I am dictating and had no time to edit.
Good luck with the app, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon




On 28 Jan 2017, at 21:21, Ekstrand, 

Re: talking multimeter

[Michael D. Ulrich]

Thanks Rick, I'll most likely by the saying, as it looks very much accessible. 
I'm also looking for a USB type of charging indicator. What I mean is, 
something to measure Milla amps as in my solar powered device charger. See what 
I'm saying?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> I haven't looked for it on Amazon,
> but here are the links for GeneralTool
> 
> https://www.generaltools.com/digital-tools/new-digital-tools
> 
> is a listing of their new tools.
> 
> https://www.generaltools.com/digital-tools/new-digital-tools/ts04-digitalmultimeter
> 
> is the info on the multi-meter.
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Michael D. Ulrich" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: talking multimeter
> 
> 
> Hey Rick, how would I go about finding that particular multimeter by 
> general, on Amazon?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Richard  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chip,
>> It is my understanding that "General Tool", also has several devices that
>> will
>> connect to a smart phone via bluetooth.
>> From what I have heard, their multi-meter can be had from Amazon for 
>> around
>> $40.
>> 
>> Rick Justice
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chip Orange" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:00 PM
>> Subject: talking multimeter
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I ran across an old friend who was (probably still is) a ham radio
>> operator, I thought I'd mention I just came across a multi-meter device 
>> with
>> bluetooth, which transmits it's readings to a smartphone app, which will
>> speak them and/or record them.  You can find it at
>> 
>> http://redfishinstruments.com
>> 
>> and it's their IDVM (and their app is the IDVM2 in the app store).  I 
>> think
>> it's the only thing they make/sell.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The app is free and the device is $150.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hth,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
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Digital Multi-Meter

[Richard]

For those interested, here is the Amazon link:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/156-5770771-0656342?url=srs%3D2592473011%26search-alias%3Dspecialty-aps=ToolSmart%E2%84%A2+Bluetooth+Connected+Digital+Multimeter+

HTH,
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Re: talking multimeter

[Richard]

Hi Michael,
I haven't looked for it on Amazon,
but here are the links for GeneralTool

https://www.generaltools.com/digital-tools/new-digital-tools

is a listing of their new tools.

https://www.generaltools.com/digital-tools/new-digital-tools/ts04-digitalmultimeter

is the info on the multi-meter.
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael D. Ulrich" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: talking multimeter


Hey Rick, how would I go about finding that particular multimeter by 
general, on Amazon?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Richard  wrote:
>
> Hi Chip,
> It is my understanding that "General Tool", also has several devices that
> will
> connect to a smart phone via bluetooth.
> From what I have heard, their multi-meter can be had from Amazon for 
> around
> $40.
>
> Rick Justice
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chip Orange" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:00 PM
> Subject: talking multimeter
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Since I ran across an old friend who was (probably still is) a ham radio
> operator, I thought I'd mention I just came across a multi-meter device 
> with
> bluetooth, which transmits it's readings to a smartphone app, which will
> speak them and/or record them.  You can find it at
>
> http://redfishinstruments.com
>
> and it's their IDVM (and their app is the IDVM2 in the app store).  I 
> think
> it's the only thing they make/sell.
>
>
>
> The app is free and the device is $150.
>
>
>
> Hth,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
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Fwd: Voice-over question

[afik Suffir]

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

תחילת ההודעה שהועברה‏:‏

> מאת: afik Suffir 
> תאריך: 30 בינואר 2017 בשעה 13:15:20 GMT‎+2‎
> אל: mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> נושא: Voice-over question
> 
> 
> Hi. 
> 
> I just got MacBook Air 13. 
> I want to know, why vo is saying 
> 3 0 instead of 30 or 1 0 instead of 10/ 
> How can I fix it?
> 
> 

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some home button questions on the iphone 7

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

I had a question on the home button.  On my iphone 6, when i would press 
the home button, it would allow me to swipe through my most recent 
notifications that came in, and if i wanted to unlock it, i would hold 
my fignerprint.  The iphone 7 doesn't seem to be doing that, it seems 
that when i press the home button it just opens up.  I have a finger 
print setup.  Am i missing something?


Cheers,
Jed

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Finding things that are recommended on the list

[Richard Turner]

I'm not the moderator, so feel free to ignore this, but, if people recommend 
products on this list and do not provide a link, I suggest you start with a 
search on your favorite search engine, perhaps Google, or DuckDuckGo.com, etc.
If you cannot find it, then send a question to the list or even the person 
specifically who recommended it.   Nine times out of ten you will find the item 
much faster that way.  In the time it takes you to write an email to this list 
and ask where to find said item, you will have already found it.  That way you 
don't have to wait around until someone decides to tell you where they got it.

Just a thought for the sake of efficiency.

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Re: talking multimeter

[Michael D. Ulrich]

Hey Rick, how would I go about finding that particular multimeter by general, 
on Amazon?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chip,
> It is my understanding that "General Tool", also has several devices that 
> will
> connect to a smart phone via bluetooth.
> From what I have heard, their multi-meter can be had from Amazon for around 
> $40.
> 
> Rick Justice
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chip Orange" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:00 PM
> Subject: talking multimeter
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> Since I ran across an old friend who was (probably still is) a ham radio
> operator, I thought I'd mention I just came across a multi-meter device with
> bluetooth, which transmits it's readings to a smartphone app, which will
> speak them and/or record them.  You can find it at
> 
> http://redfishinstruments.com
> 
> and it's their IDVM (and their app is the IDVM2 in the app store).  I think
> it's the only thing they make/sell.
> 
> 
> 
> The app is free and the device is $150.
> 
> 
> 
> Hth,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
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RE: Fopydoc Scan stand

[Richard Turner]

Fopydo Scanning Stand for the Blind and Visually Impaired
FopyDo stands for Photo-Copy-Document. It is a great new concept in stands. It 
measures 11.75 by 9.5 by .5 inches when folded up. It is made from corigated 
plastic and folds up very nicely. Easy to set up and the default height is 10.5 
inches and works great for scanning an 8.5 by 11 inch sheet of paper. At it's 
tallest setting, it puts the device about 14 inches from the desk and will work 
for scanning legal sized documents or both pages of a book at once. There are 
two metal legs that have microsuction tape on the ends so it doesn't slide on 
slick surfaces.
This new version is now available.  order Fopydo using Pay pal or a credit card 
from: Fopydo web site
Or, from Amazon at:
Amazon.com Fopydo Scanning 
Stand
Deployment and operation instructions for 
fOPYDO
FOPYDO Book Reading Aid plus Scanning Stand for the Blind
Mr. Wardiga has now created an attachment that makes it easier to scan a book 
or a pile of lose pages. The Book Reading Aid plus Stand is $35.00 plus $5.00 
shipping.
Book Reading Aid at 
Amazon
Option to buy using Pay Pal on the Fopydo web site along with both text 
instructions about the Book Reading Aid and a video instructions for setting up 
the Book Reading Aid can be found here:
Book Reading Aid on the Fopydo site
If you already have the stand check his web site or Amazon to see if the Book 
Reading Aid is available by itself. Or, Email him at: Fopydo 
Email

HTH,
Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Scott Dollar
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fopydoc Scan stand

Hi Ann,

The reading aid is for books.  I hope that Richard Turner can explain a little 
bit more details to you.

Hope this help you.

Cheers,

Scott Dollar


From: Ann Smith
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 10:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fopydoc Scan stand

Hello, what is the reading aid? I have the stand that I purchased for $25 from 
Amazon. It has the adhesive strip at the top to hold your device in place as 
you scan.
I would like to get into batch of scanning so I can get back into small print 
books again. Not every broke out there is going to be available to you 
electronically. Thanks in advance for any help.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 29, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Scott Dollar  wrote:
Hi Richard,

Big thank you for the note.  I do understand very clearly for now.

Thank you again,

Scott Dollar


From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fopydoc Scan stand

If you plan to scan books, having the Book Reading Aid plus the stand is very 
helpful.
If you do not plan to do much with scanning books, but just individual 
documents, you only need the Fopydo Scanning Stand.

The NFB Store sells the Fopydo Stand by itself for $12.00 with free shipping.  
They do not carry the book reading aid, so if you want both, it is best to go 
through either Amazon or the fopydo.com web site.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Scott Dollar
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fopydoc Scan stand

Hi everyone,

I have a question for you.

Which is the best with the Fopydoc just the scan stand only or the scan stand 
with the book?  I do have KNFB app.  I just want to make sure about this.

Thank you,

Scott Dollar

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Re: the red lazor app

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
As soon as you open the app it is scanning. obviously, you have to have a 
barcode for it to scan. The easiest thing to do would be to have a package, but 
you know has a barcode on it, scan the package slowly until you hear a pin or a 
vibration. then a new screen will open with the choice of searching Amazon or 
Google, are usually choose Google. if you have your rotor set to headings, you 
can flick down between the results. When you have finished, there is a done 
button at the top.
I hope this helps, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 30 Jan 2017, at 11:33, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I’ve  just downloaded the neo reader app to my 5S. I can’t figure out how to 
> work the app.
> How do I take a picture of the bar code?
> I’ve given permission for neo reader to use my camera. But I can’t seem to 
> find where the camera or scan button is?
> I heard someone on this thread, mention something about double tapping the 
> Scan Header. I tried that, and nothing.
> Can somebody please explain the whole scanning process to me?
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 4:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the red lazor app
>  
> something I have found, when searching for barcodes, is that on boxes they 
> are often positioned on one of the narrow sides and all on the bottom face. 
> this is, I I imagine, because it is easier for stock Takers to locate the 
> barcodes when the boxes are all put together side-by-side with their narrow 
> edges facing outwards. or, along the bottom, for the checkout, when they are 
> slid across the barcode reader.
>  
> hope this helps! Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 22:54, Don Risavy, Jr.  wrote:
> 
> Okay will try that later on and see if can get it to work.
> Yes pointed the back facing camera of my iPhone 7 towards the box of 
> hamburger helper and never found anything or beeped after a few minutes.
>  
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the red lazor app
>  
> hi,
> I am using an iPhone 6. when the app opens it is already scanning. so have  
> you're back facing camera towards where you think your barcode might be. 
> perhaps, begin with something easy where you know the barcode is. once it 
> finds the barcode, a new page will open with choices to search with Amazon or 
> Google. generally, I search with Google and get good results!
> Hope this helps Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 21:18, Don Risavy, Jr.  wrote:
> 
> I’ve downloaded on my IPhone the NeoReader app and can’t seem to get it to 
> work.
> So what am I doing wrong or does it only work on I Pad’s?
> Thanks.
>  
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the red lazor app
>  
> hi,
> Are you using something called Neo scan? I don't know this app, the one I 
> have referred to is called NeoReader. so, not sure if the one you are using 
> is accessible.
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 18:07, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Could someone tell me how to use the Neoscan app?  I am completely unable to 
> get it to do anything other than allow me to hand enter a barcode; there 
> seems to be no choice for it to use the camera to scan the item, although 
> there is a choice to allow it to use a picture from your photos.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Ulrich
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the red lazor app
>  
> No, my bad and thanks for putting me straight!
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the red lazor app
>  
> hi,
> We may be at Cross purposes here, this is just a barcode reader app. I really 
> don't know if you can create your own labels or if you have to buy some kind 
> of in app purchase for this… sorry if you've been misled.
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 13:23, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> 
> What about the labels, how much do they cost? Or can you print up your own?
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the red lazor app
>  
> I think it is free!
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 12:32, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> 
> How much does Neo 

RE: the red lazor app

[Mike Ulrich]

Hi, 

I’ve  just downloaded the neo reader app to my 5S. I can’t figure out how to 
work the app.

How do I take a picture of the bar code?

I’ve given permission for neo reader to use my camera. But I can’t seem to find 
where the camera or scan button is?

I heard someone on this thread, mention something about double tapping the Scan 
Header. I tried that, and nothing.

Can somebody please explain the whole scanning process to me?

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the red lazor app

 

something I have found, when searching for barcodes, is that on boxes they are 
often positioned on one of the narrow sides and all on the bottom face. this 
is, I I imagine, because it is easier for stock Takers to locate the barcodes 
when the boxes are all put together side-by-side with their narrow edges facing 
outwards. or, along the bottom, for the checkout, when they are slid across the 
barcode reader.

 

hope this helps! Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 29 Jan 2017, at 22:54, Don Risavy, Jr.  wrote:

Okay will try that later on and see if can get it to work.

Yes pointed the back facing camera of my iPhone 7 towards the box of hamburger 
helper and never found anything or beeped after a few minutes.

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the red lazor app

 

hi,
I am using an iPhone 6. when the app opens it is already scanning. so have  
you're back facing camera towards where you think your barcode might be. 
perhaps, begin with something easy where you know the barcode is. once it finds 
the barcode, a new page will open with choices to search with Amazon or Google. 
generally, I search with Google and get good results!
Hope this helps Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 29 Jan 2017, at 21:18, Don Risavy, Jr.  wrote:

I’ve downloaded on my IPhone the NeoReader app and can’t seem to get it to work.

So what am I doing wrong or does it only work on I Pad’s?

Thanks.

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the red lazor app

 

hi,
Are you using something called Neo scan? I don't know this app, the one I have 
referred to is called NeoReader. so, not sure if the one you are using is 
accessible.
Thanks, Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 29 Jan 2017, at 18:07, Chip Orange  wrote:

Could someone tell me how to use the Neoscan app?  I am completely unable to 
get it to do anything other than allow me to hand enter a barcode; there seems 
to be no choice for it to use the camera to scan the item, although there is a 
choice to allow it to use a picture from your photos.

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the red lazor app

 

No, my bad and thanks for putting me straight!

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the red lazor app

 

hi,
We may be at Cross purposes here, this is just a barcode reader app. I really 
don't know if you can create your own labels or if you have to buy some kind of 
in app purchase for this… sorry if you've been misled.
Thanks, Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 29 Jan 2017, at 13:23, Mike Ulrich  wrote:

What about the labels, how much do they cost? Or can you print up your own?

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the red lazor app

 

I think it is free!
Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 29 Jan 2017, at 12:32, Mike Ulrich  wrote:

How much does Neo Reader cost?

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the red lazor app

 

try Neo reader, it doesn't need to be aligned or frame the barcode.
Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 29 Jan 2017, at 01:15, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

Unfortunately, we're laser has not worked but do you stew for about a year now. 
Digit-eyes works, With this app  you have to place the camera in the correct 
orientation to scan a barcode. Other than that, it works great!

Regards, 

Feliciano 

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On Jan 28, 2017, at 1:32 PM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Re: the red lazor app

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

something I have found, when searching for barcodes, is that on boxes they are 
often positioned on one of the narrow sides and all on the bottom face. this 
is, I I imagine, because it is easier for stock Takers to locate the barcodes 
when the boxes are all put together side-by-side with their narrow edges facing 
outwards. or, along the bottom, for the checkout, when they are slid across the 
barcode reader.

hope this helps! Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 29 Jan 2017, at 22:54, Don Risavy, Jr.  wrote:
> 
> Okay will try that later on and see if can get it to work.
> Yes pointed the back facing camera of my iPhone 7 towards the box of 
> hamburger helper and never found anything or beeped after a few minutes.
>  
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the red lazor app
>  
> hi,
> I am using an iPhone 6. when the app opens it is already scanning. so have  
> you're back facing camera towards where you think your barcode might be. 
> perhaps, begin with something easy where you know the barcode is. once it 
> finds the barcode, a new page will open with choices to search with Amazon or 
> Google. generally, I search with Google and get good results!
> Hope this helps Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 21:18, Don Risavy, Jr.  wrote:
> 
> I’ve downloaded on my IPhone the NeoReader app and can’t seem to get it to 
> work.
> So what am I doing wrong or does it only work on I Pad’s?
> Thanks.
>  
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the red lazor app
>  
> hi,
> Are you using something called Neo scan? I don't know this app, the one I 
> have referred to is called NeoReader. so, not sure if the one you are using 
> is accessible.
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 18:07, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Could someone tell me how to use the Neoscan app?  I am completely unable to 
> get it to do anything other than allow me to hand enter a barcode; there 
> seems to be no choice for it to use the camera to scan the item, although 
> there is a choice to allow it to use a picture from your photos.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Ulrich
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the red lazor app
>  
> No, my bad and thanks for putting me straight!
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 8:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the red lazor app
>  
> hi,
> We may be at Cross purposes here, this is just a barcode reader app. I really 
> don't know if you can create your own labels or if you have to buy some kind 
> of in app purchase for this… sorry if you've been misled.
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 13:23, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> 
> What about the labels, how much do they cost? Or can you print up your own?
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the red lazor app
>  
> I think it is free!
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 12:32, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> 
> How much does Neo Reader cost?
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the red lazor app
>  
> try Neo reader, it doesn't need to be aligned or frame the barcode.
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 01:15, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, we're laser has not worked but do you stew for about a year 
> now. Digit-eyes works, With this app  you have to place the camera in the 
> correct orientation to scan a barcode. Other than that, it works great!
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
> 
> On Jan 28, 2017, at 1:32 PM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Pam,
> I think it does remove the ads, not sure though. however, I find I can use it 
> just fine, the Addies only the bottom half of the screen and I only use the 
> top half! so far, I find it quite good! if I put the tin on its side, and 
> gently roll it, while moving the phone above it, it was fine is the barcode!
> 
> I am sorry if this doesn't read well, I am dictating and had no time to edit.
> Good luck with the app,