messenger in facebook

[Janet Bell]

Hi Guys and Guyesses, just wondering if anybody else keeps getting chucked out 
of messenger when in facebook or just using messenger itself.  It has been fine 
until yesterday so don’t know what’s happening.  Janet

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Re: Youtube to mp3

[Candy Lowe]

Ari, thanks so much.  It worked very well and did just what I needed
.


Candy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2017, at 6:55 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Try youtubeconverter.me. It's a great site. Note that the progress indicator 
> and eventual download button are beneath the adds on the page. I think it's 
> actually a link, not a button, now that I stop to think about how you'd get 
> there. Anyhow, you can pick from 64, 128, 192, and 320 KBPS for your 
> downloaded file. Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> I was wondering if anyone knows of a new site that allows you to convert 
>> youtube videos to mp3 on the iPhone.  I was using youtube to mp3.net, but, 
>> it no longer works.
>> A while back, someone had said that you could do it with the work flow app, 
>> but, I absolutely had no luck with that.  
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Candy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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iTunes 12.7 and Music Sync post iOS 11 upgrade

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Folks,

 

I've been following the posts about how iTunes 12.7 works differently than
the previous version in this post-iOS 11 environment. I think I've gotten
the gist of what's needed with ringtones. However, I'm a bit perplexed why
anything would have changed with music. Music isn't ringtones or apps so I
would have thought that my music syncing would rock along with iTunes 12.7
much as it did with iTunes 12.6.x.

 

When I connect my iPhone to my computer and navigate below the device
summary listing to music, the panel to the right where it used to display my
playlists with checkboxes for those I had marked to sync now shows the
following:

 

A Sync Music heading with an unchecked box next to it followed by two radio
buttons the first which says entire music library and announces false since
it is not marked and the second which says selected playlists and announces
true. The odd thing is that this section is dimmed and neither of these
radio buttons can be changed. If I tick the box next to the Sync Music
heading in order to hopefully review my playlists marked for syncing, I get
a question along the lines of are you sure you want to remove existing music
from this iPhone and sync with this iTunes library?

 

I don't ever remember iTunes behaving like this and before proceeding with
the Sync music action, I wanted to run this by folks here for comments. I
guess Apple is trying to protect those who are connecting their devices
containing content from sources other than the connected computer in order
to warn them that performing a sync will delete that content. I'm more than
a bit confused with this since I would think such an action would be an
exception rather than the rule and this seems confusing to those of us who
simply have upgraded our iOS and iTunes and are syncing our iPhones as we've
always done. It sort of feels as if I'm having to start the process over to
sync my existing playlists with my iPhone in the iOS 11 world. I'm just a
bit nervous about proceeding since my playlists aren't showing in iTunes
even though the ones on my iPhone are still the same. And I do have the box
checked to manually manage music and videos as has been discussed in the
ringtones thread.

 

Thanks for any comments or suggestions.

 

Alan Lemly

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KGI: iPhone 8 Plus selling better than expected as iPhone X delay pushes ‘super cycle’ into 2018 | 9to5Mac

[Maria Reyes]

KGI: iPhone 8 Plus selling better than expected as iPhone X delay pushes ‘super 
cycle’ into 2018
Chance Miller - Oct. 6th 2017 7:16 am PT @ChanceHMiller
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KGI’s Ming-Chi Kuo is today out with a new investor note in which he further 
analyzes the iPhone X supply chain and production struggles. Kuo also looks 
ahead to 2018, noting of when Apple will hit full production of the iPhone X as 
well as what’s in store for the 2018 iPhone…


 

Kuo says the “true super cycle” for the iPhone won’t actually take place until 
2018. While many analysts have predicted that the launch of the iPhone X will 
prompt a super cycle for the end of 2017, the KGI Securities analyst says 
supply shortages will push that increased upgrade cycle into next year.

As he’s said in the past, the biggest bottleneck Apple faces in iPhone X 
production is the front-facing TrueDepthcamera that allows for Apple’s Face ID 
technology. Those issues, however, should be resolved in 2018.

Furthermore, the 2018 iPhones will see a “longer sales period” than the 2017 
iPhone X due to the improvements in availability as Apple perfects the 
production process. This implies that Kuo sees the 2018 iPhone X models being 
readily available right at launch, as opposed to the significant delays 
plaguing the current generation.

All in all, Kuo predicts 210 million to 220 million iPhone sales in 2017, while 
2018 will see Apple ship between 245 million to 255 million units.

As for the iPhone 8, Kuo says the supply chain sentiment is “more conservative” 
as of late due in large part to the fact “visibility is still low for new 
products in 2018.” Once the holiday rush is over, he predicts a sharp 
quarter-on-quarter decline for iPhone 8 sales due to cannibalization from 
iPhone X. In the meantime, iPhone 8 Plus sales have been “better than expected” 
thus far.

Finally, Kuo predicts that 2018 iPhone models will “retain selling points found 
on the iPhone X.” With this paired alongside improved production, he says he’s 
optimistic on prospects for iPhone suppliers heading forward.

Kuo has vocalized iPhone X production concerns several times in the past and 
today’s report does much of the same. He previously lowered his iPhone X 
predictions from upwards of 45-50 million units down to 40 million units with 
Apple making under 10k units per day.

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Re: appear offline in facebook

[Donna]

It is my understanding that if Messenger is set to show that you are offline 
that you will not show up as online using Facebook, because Messenger & 
Facebook are linked together. If I'm wrong someone please correct me. 

Donna
> 
> Hi folks
>  
> Is there a way to appear offline when using m.facebook.com on an idevice or 
> pc or mac? I know you can do so in messenger and I know how to handle it but 
> every time I go on m.facebook.com I appear online.
> Regards
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RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Did you change it in Settings > Sounds > Ringtone? Also, have you closed all 
apps and done a reboot to see what happens after your phone restarts?

Regards,
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Subject: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

I am having an issue with the ringtone on my iPhone 7-plus since updating to 
IOS--11. When I receive a call from any one who I have not assigned a ringtone 
to, the default tone happens. I tried to change my tone to one that I have 
purchased, and the tone shows up as changed, but the old default tone is still 
ringing. I changed it in settings and in my contacts, but it does not work. Am 
I missing something?  


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Creating a new Apple ID

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm trying to create a new Apple ID from my iPhone, and I'm getting an 
unable to create ID, an unknown error was detected message. I seem to 
recall seeing this when I first tried to create an Apple ID five years 
ago. I think I just gave up and went to the web site from my PC to 
create my first Apple ID. Is that what I need to do in this case or is 
there a trick to creating an Apple ID from my iPhone?



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Re: Youtube to mp3

[englishrider91]

Try youtubeconverter.me. It's a great site. Note that the progress indicator 
and eventual download button are beneath the adds on the page. I think it's 
actually a link, not a button, now that I stop to think about how you'd get 
there. Anyhow, you can pick from 64, 128, 192, and 320 KBPS for your downloaded 
file. Hope this helps.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I was wondering if anyone knows of a new site that allows you to convert 
> youtube videos to mp3 on the iPhone.  I was using youtube to mp3.net, but, it 
> no longer works.
> A while back, someone had said that you could do it with the work flow app, 
> but, I absolutely had no luck with that.  
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Candy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Liz Ulrich and LD Hope]

I am having an issue with the ringtone on my iPhone 7-plus since updating to 
IOS--11. When I receive a call from any one who I have not assigned a ringtone 
to, the default tone happens. I tried to change my tone to one that I have 
purchased, and the tone shows up as changed, but the old default tone is still 
ringing. I changed it in settings and in my contacts, but it does not work. Am 
I missing something?  


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RE: What am I realistically losing by not upgrading to iOS 11

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here are a few things which come to mind:

1. Ability to customize the control centre by adding, removing or reordering 
items
2. Ability to perform a 3-finger tap on an image like a photo or something on 
Facebook and getting a description of the picture (this is work in progress) 
and if there is text on the picture usually getting OCR done on said text
3. Ability to do screen recordings which can come in very handy if you want to 
demonstrate something like a short-coming in an app to a developer etc.
4. Further improvement on the ability to move apps as you can now select 
multiple apps and drag them all at once or create a folder with them
5. Emergency S.O.S feature which you can configure so that if you press the 
power button quickly 5 times the phone calls 9 1 1 after a delay which is there 
so you can cancel if you have done this accidently which by the way is hard to 
do.
6. If you use Apple Pay and live in the United States you will fairly soon be 
able to send money to a friend or family member who also has an iPhone. 
Hopefully this comes to Canada soon since for me this is a very nice feature.
7. Greatly improved file management via the new "Files" app which combines 
files from Dropbox, OneDrive, iCloud Drive etc. in a single app
8. The awesome new american female SIRI voice which sounds great as well as a 
slightly smarter SIRI
9. More options to customize Voiceover such as pitch control, hearing a tone 
for upper case letters instead of "Cap"
10. The ability to auto-answer calls, this could be handy if you are doing 
something where you don't want to touch the iPhone but any calls which come in 
you would like to answer. Turn on auto answer and the phone rings once (you can 
adjust the time) and then the call is automatically answered.

There are of course security improvements as well, I think waiting for iOS 11.1 
which should come out in a few weeks or maybe a month won't hurt and there are 
a few good Voiceover improvements in that first single dot update as some 
people call it.
To not upgrade because you are using an old 32 bit app which the developer 
isn't updating is just postponing the inevitable.

Regards,
Sieghard

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To: idevi...@gatewayfortheblind.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What am I realistically losing by not upgrading to iOS 11

Hi all.

I'm not likely to upgrade to iOS 11 in any hurry. I am fixated on SHOUTcast app 
which was stopped working once I upgrade to 11. Even without that app I am not 
having any issues with my current version of iOS. So what am I missing by not 
upgrading? Is there any compelling reason to upgrade?



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Re: Google search not working like it used to on Safari for iOS.

[SSEric]

I use Duck Duck Go as my search. It opens like Google, but without a lot of 
junk.

Eric
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On Oct 6, 2017, at 6:44 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

So, to make a long story short, I updated to iOS 11 a week or so ago. It was 
fine, except for this one issue. I use Safari a ton on my phone, and I usually 
use Google to search for things. I didn't know what the heck was going on when 
my Google search results pages started displaying rather oddly--with a link 
that wasn't a heading for every result, with a right-facing arrow next to the 
link. I decided to see if reloading it without content blockers would make a 
difference, but it didn't. So I tried requesting the desktop site, and low and 
behold, it worked beautifully then, with everything displaying as it should, 
with headings and all. Now, my question is, how the heck can I make it default 
to this behavior in future? I don't want to have to keep doing this every time 
in order to have my Google search results display in an actually useable maner. 
Personally, I think the mobile view of Google stinks bigtime!


Thanks,
Ari

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Google search not working like it used to on Safari for iOS.

[englishrider91]

So, to make a long story short, I updated to iOS 11 a week or so ago. It was 
fine, except for this one issue. I use Safari a ton on my phone, and I usually 
use Google to search for things. I didn't know what the heck was going on when 
my Google search results pages started displaying rather oddly--with a link 
that wasn't a heading for every result, with a right-facing arrow next to the 
link. I decided to see if reloading it without content blockers would make a 
difference, but it didn't. So I tried requesting the desktop site, and low and 
behold, it worked beautifully then, with everything displaying as it should, 
with headings and all. Now, my question is, how the heck can I make it default 
to this behavior in future? I don't want to have to keep doing this every time 
in order to have my Google search results display in an actually useable maner. 
Personally, I think the mobile view of Google stinks bigtime!


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Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I hear you there I’m wrong about something daily. I only knew they were the 
most recent as funnily enough the first few are the least visited favorites by 
me so there was no doubt they were not the most recent. Though feel free to 
suggest that to them too as that’d be a fabulous idea if implemented. It’d at 
least make that section appear a bit more useful to me anyway.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

I somehow just assumed they were the most recently used choices, but then again 
I have been wrong a time or two in my life so no reason why it can’t happen a 
third time.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Hi,

Ah interestingly it isn’t showing me the most recent at all merely the first 8 
or so in the order they appear on the see more screen I didn’t count.  Had it 
been the most recent I might have found that more useful than the form it 
currently takes. I guess that see more button and I will be fast friends 
(laughs).

Robin

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:43 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

I guess it’s just so sighted people see more at a glance. It looks like they 
show the most recent 8 Albums, Playlists or Stations and if you want to see all 
of them you just have to tap on the “See More” button. It’s not so different 
from how this works in other apps or even on the PC, if you open Word or Excel 
you see a certain number of your most recently used files except here you can 
say if you want to see the last 6, 8, 10 or whatever. I don’t think I have 
found a place where you could specify this for the My Sonos tab or where, if 
you wanted to, you could turn off to see only the most recent ones you used.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Hi,

Oh please do I think it could be useful for things like volume control and room 
selection for instance.

My only other question is perhaps you have some thoughts on design as it 
pertains to when you first enter the my sonos screen you only see a few of your 
favorites. I’m curious what the necessity for that is why not just take you to 
all of your favorites or give users a way to further select which favorites 
amongst favorites appear there or am I missing something?

Robin

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:03 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Interesting idea with the rotor in Sonos, I’ll have to suggest it to them and 
see if it could be used.

Once you get used to the new layout I think you find it more intuitive, I 
certainly do and like the tabs along the bottom better than how it was before.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Hi Sieghard,

Firstly thank you for making me smile. Secondly I wish your wife all manner of 
good things and an easy journey through her time of monitoring.

Thirdly I knew you’d know I just knew it. I think that was my mistake I might 
have been on the now playing screen and just didn’t realize it what with all 
the seeming newness. Suddenly I had an unintended grouping and hadn’t a clue 
how I did it. I like the new layout quite well enough. But I always think to 
myself in various places I do wish they’d make more use of the VoiceOver rotor. 
 It’d be neat to be able to change volume or rooms or such that way. Ah well 
maybe one day.

Thanks to you Neal and others for all your hard work on the betas for the 
benefit of us all.

Yes the new speakers do sound neat it’d be fun to play with one and I’m hoping 
you’ll report back should you have the chance to do so.

Thanks again.

Robin

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:10 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Hi Robin, you silly girl,

 

OK, selecting a room is all done via the rooms tab. The trick is that one you 
tapped on a room and it’s selected, you are done in the rooms tab unless you 
want to group rooms.

Let’s say I want to play a particular song, album, artist or playlist in the 
Master Bedroom, then once that has started playing I want to select the Kitchen 
and select a radio station.

For sake of simplicity let’s assume both the album or playlist as well as the 
radio station are added to the “My Sonos” tab which 

What am I realistically losing by not upgrading to iOS 11

[TaraPrakash]

Hi all.

I'm not likely to upgrade to iOS 11 in any hurry. I am fixated on SHOUTcast app 
which was stopped working once I upgrade to 11. Even without that app I am not 
having any issues with my current version of iOS. So what am I missing by not 
upgrading? Is there any compelling reason to upgrade?



Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I somehow just assumed they were the most recently used choices, but then again 
I have been wrong a time or two in my life so no reason why it can’t happen a 
third time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi,
Ah interestingly it isn’t showing me the most recent at all merely the first 8 
or so in the order they appear on the see more screen I didn’t count.  Had it 
been the most recent I might have found that more useful than the form it 
currently takes. I guess that see more button and I will be fast friends 
(laughs).
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

I guess it’s just so sighted people see more at a glance. It looks like they 
show the most recent 8 Albums, Playlists or Stations and if you want to see all 
of them you just have to tap on the “See More” button. It’s not so different 
from how this works in other apps or even on the PC, if you open Word or Excel 
you see a certain number of your most recently used files except here you can 
say if you want to see the last 6, 8, 10 or whatever. I don’t think I have 
found a place where you could specify this for the My Sonos tab or where, if 
you wanted to, you could turn off to see only the most recent ones you used.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi,
Oh please do I think it could be useful for things like volume control and room 
selection for instance.
My only other question is perhaps you have some thoughts on design as it 
pertains to when you first enter the my sonos screen you only see a few of your 
favorites. I’m curious what the necessity for that is why not just take you to 
all of your favorites or give users a way to further select which favorites 
amongst favorites appear there or am I missing something?
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Interesting idea with the rotor in Sonos, I’ll have to suggest it to them and 
see if it could be used.
Once you get used to the new layout I think you find it more intuitive, I 
certainly do and like the tabs along the bottom better than how it was before.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi Sieghard,
Firstly thank you for making me smile. Secondly I wish your wife all manner of 
good things and an easy journey through her time of monitoring.
Thirdly I knew you’d know I just knew it. I think that was my mistake I might 
have been on the now playing screen and just didn’t realize it what with all 
the seeming newness. Suddenly I had an unintended grouping and hadn’t a clue 
how I did it. I like the new layout quite well enough. But I always think to 
myself in various places I do wish they’d make more use of the VoiceOver rotor. 
 It’d be neat to be able to change volume or rooms or such that way. Ah well 
maybe one day.
Thanks to you Neal and others for all your hard work on the betas for the 
benefit of us all.
Yes the new speakers do sound neat it’d be fun to play with one and I’m hoping 
you’ll report back should you have the chance to do so.
Thanks again.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi Robin, you silly girl,

OK, selecting a room is all done via the rooms tab. The trick is that one you 
tapped on a room and it’s selected, you are done in the rooms tab unless you 
want to group rooms.
Let’s say I want to play a particular song, album, artist or playlist in the 
Master Bedroom, then once that has started playing I want to select the Kitchen 
and select a radio station.
For sake of simplicity let’s assume both the album or playlist as well as the 
radio station are added to the “My Sonos” tab which is sort of a new thing 
where all your favourite stuff is.
So, I tap on the rooms tab and select Master Bedroom, now I go to the My Sonos 
tab and select the album or playlist, I may have to select if I want to play 
all the album or I can tap on a particular song, but that’s essentially it.
If you now check just above the Rooms tab, about in the middle near the bottom, 
it 

Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Ah interestingly it isn’t showing me the most recent at all merely the first 8 
or so in the order they appear on the see more screen I didn’t count.  Had it 
been the most recent I might have found that more useful than the form it 
currently takes. I guess that see more button and I will be fast friends 
(laughs).
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

I guess it’s just so sighted people see more at a glance. It looks like they 
show the most recent 8 Albums, Playlists or Stations and if you want to see all 
of them you just have to tap on the “See More” button. It’s not so different 
from how this works in other apps or even on the PC, if you open Word or Excel 
you see a certain number of your most recently used files except here you can 
say if you want to see the last 6, 8, 10 or whatever. I don’t think I have 
found a place where you could specify this for the My Sonos tab or where, if 
you wanted to, you could turn off to see only the most recent ones you used.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Hi,

Oh please do I think it could be useful for things like volume control and room 
selection for instance.

My only other question is perhaps you have some thoughts on design as it 
pertains to when you first enter the my sonos screen you only see a few of your 
favorites. I’m curious what the necessity for that is why not just take you to 
all of your favorites or give users a way to further select which favorites 
amongst favorites appear there or am I missing something?

Robin

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:03 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Interesting idea with the rotor in Sonos, I’ll have to suggest it to them and 
see if it could be used.

Once you get used to the new layout I think you find it more intuitive, I 
certainly do and like the tabs along the bottom better than how it was before.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Hi Sieghard,

Firstly thank you for making me smile. Secondly I wish your wife all manner of 
good things and an easy journey through her time of monitoring.

Thirdly I knew you’d know I just knew it. I think that was my mistake I might 
have been on the now playing screen and just didn’t realize it what with all 
the seeming newness. Suddenly I had an unintended grouping and hadn’t a clue 
how I did it. I like the new layout quite well enough. But I always think to 
myself in various places I do wish they’d make more use of the VoiceOver rotor. 
 It’d be neat to be able to change volume or rooms or such that way. Ah well 
maybe one day.

Thanks to you Neal and others for all your hard work on the betas for the 
benefit of us all.

Yes the new speakers do sound neat it’d be fun to play with one and I’m hoping 
you’ll report back should you have the chance to do so.

Thanks again.

Robin

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:10 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Hi Robin, you silly girl,

 

OK, selecting a room is all done via the rooms tab. The trick is that one you 
tapped on a room and it’s selected, you are done in the rooms tab unless you 
want to group rooms.

Let’s say I want to play a particular song, album, artist or playlist in the 
Master Bedroom, then once that has started playing I want to select the Kitchen 
and select a radio station.

For sake of simplicity let’s assume both the album or playlist as well as the 
radio station are added to the “My Sonos” tab which is sort of a new thing 
where all your favourite stuff is.

So, I tap on the rooms tab and select Master Bedroom, now I go to the My Sonos 
tab and select the album or playlist, I may have to select if I want to play 
all the album or I can tap on a particular song, but that’s essentially it.

If you now check just above the Rooms tab, about in the middle near the bottom, 
it now says “Master Bedroom” followed by “currently playing and whatever it is 
that is playing. Double tap on that and the “Now Playing” screen opens, at the 
top left you can dismiss it.

Next, if you want to start your radio station in the Kitchen, dismiss the now 
playing screen, tap again on the rooms tab, select kitchen, go back to the My 
Sonos tab and select your radio station.

You could also go to the Browse tab and select any of your sources like your 
library or whichever music services you have set up.

If, let’s say you are on the now playing screen 

RE: some audio book questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Dropbox, OneDrive, the stock Music app, the Downcast Podcast app

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

 Hi all,
 
On the topic of audio books on the phone, what could you recommend as an app to 
play an audio book for my friends who do not wish to pay $20 or so for Voice 
Dream Reader?  Anything available for free (assuming you have an mp3 of the 
audio book that is).

Thanks,

Chip



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RE: some audio book questions

[Chip Orange]

 Hi all,
 
On the topic of audio books on the phone, what could you recommend as an app to 
play an audio book for my friends who do not wish to pay $20 or so for Voice 
Dream Reader?  Anything available for free (assuming you have an mp3 of the 
audio book that is).

Thanks,

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RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is my understanding that you still need the Alexa app and you set up skills 
and all that just like with an Echo so it would make sense that Audible would 
work.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 6:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

I was told just two days ago that it was not yet available so I hope it is 
true. That should mean that when I get the Sonos 1 I will be even happier. 
But I just downloaded the newest app from Sonos and there is no mention of 
Audible. Perhaps it will work through the Alexa feature.
Good news for sure.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

The Sonos guy on the phone told me today that Audible is supported.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

If I did not already own an Echo, I would definitely go with the Sonos 1 and in 
fact I am still going for the Sonos 1. The sound quality is one very good 
reason and the airplay is another. And having it in every room where you have a 
Sonos speaker is exciting. I am looking forward to this and the sales person 
told me they are working seriously to get Audible books to play on the 
speakers. While you can listen to them on the Echo you have to be in the same 
room but if you have Sonos speakers in several rooms, you will hear the book in 
each of those rooms.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

Hi Wayne,

I think you are comparing Apple and Oranges if you compare an Echo Dot and the 
new Sonos 1. First of all, if you are in a country where Alexa isn't offered 
you still won't automatically get it by buying a Sonos 1. I guess here in 
Canada you can make Alexa work, but it's always been my opinion that if Amazon 
can't be bothered to make Alexa available officially then I'm not going to jump 
through all sorts of hoops to get it.
As for the price comparison, the Sonos 1 especially if you buy a set and put 
them in stereo mode is a very different animal with respect to sound quality. 
Maybe you also have some sort of higher quality stereo or set of speakers or 
bluetooth speaker for enjoying music and this is really where the Sonos 1 comes 
in. Anyhow, if you want to put music through out your house Sonos is still one 
of the best options and as I said, you also get fully accessible access to 
things like Tune In, iHeart Radio, Spotify, Deezer, Sirius XM and many more, I 
believe Sonos supports 44 services in total both paid and free. If the Sonos 1 
also has Airplay 2 built in it's very much a game-changer for iOS users since 
you only need one Airplay enabled device to allow your entire Sonos system to 
access it. For me this would mean I can take my Connect Amp and use it at my 
retail store and replace it with a Sonos 1 and I can also get rid of my setup 
where I use an Airport Express connected to the Connect Amp so I can Airplay to 
my Sonos system.
If all you want is an inexpensive voice assistant speaker and you don't care 
too much about sound quality then the Echo Dot is certainly the way to go, but 
even if Amazon made the Echo available here in Canada I believe it's much 
better to buy a Sonos 1 instead because it will eventually give you access to 
both Alexa and Google Assistant. I wouldn't be surprised if Cortana follows 
soon as well and then you have 3 of the 4 major voice assistants in one device.
Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

I have an Echo Dot at home, but don't use Siri very much. I do use Siri, but 
not constantly like I know some do. So for me, I have the Hey Siri feature 
turned off. It's not ahuge deal since I can hold the Home button osummon Siri 
if I need to. For the Echo Dot, though it is always listening, that does not 
bother me too much. However, it does have a mute button to stop it from 
listening, so that's good. It really hasn't been triggered too much by thinking 
it has heard the magic word. A few times, but not a ton. I understand how the 
Sonos devices getting Alexa would be a game changer for those not in countries 
supported by Alexa. However, for me it comes down to price; I can get an Echo 
Dot 

Re: arranging apps..

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, sorry, that is no longer the case. You now double tap and hold on the 
app, just like you did pre-iOS 10, but this is where things are all changed or 
new. When you hear "started editing", release your finger. To start moving 
apps, flick up with one finger till you hear "drag" followed by the app name. 
Then perform a one finger double tap. Now the rest should feel familiar to you, 
except there is one more. You can now move multiple apps at once, and yes this 
includes folders. Simply double tap with one finger to add the app to the 
current drag session.

> On 5 Oct 2017, at 17:52, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Can someone please refresh my memory about how to use the newere way of 
> arranging apps on the i phone?  I am talking about the way where you flick up 
> or down, choose arrange apps, and then..
> 
> I have an i phone 6 plus running IOS 11.
> 
> Thanks!
> Cait
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Re: Iphone 8 VS 8+ or X

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, I think optical image stabilization is only available on the 8+, and to 
be honest I am very happy with my 6s for both sound quality and general usage. 
Enough said and good luck with your decision making.

> On 6 Oct 2017, at 06:53, Carl John de Campos  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I’m due for an upgrade soonand I’ve used my 6S 64 GB space gray for the past 
> two years.
>  
> I’m firstly considering the Iphone 8 vs the 8+, of which the better reported 
> battery life and larger screen work area (I also type a lot onscreen), are 
> cons for the +, but smaller pocket size and cheaper price are cons for the 8.
>  
> I think the cameras are the same between the two so for youtube video making 
> and OCR work they should be identical, but I have the following questions:
>  
> Do both 8 and 8+ have optical image stabilization?
> Do both 8 and 8+ have stereo speakers, and do you think they would sound 
> exactly the same (listening to audio books and youtube very important for 
> better sound on phone speakers)?
> And are there any other worth while mentioning differences between the two?
>  
> And lastly, I think the X would be everyone’s dream phone, but I already hear 
> production is low and they may not ship enough units by 5 Nov to U.S., thus 
> to South Africa will probably take another million years, plus cost, at $1000 
> starting, by the time South Africa gets it it will cost excessively more than 
> the 8 and 8+.  Wondering if worth waiting vs the price.
>  
> Do any of you have your 8 or 8+ yet, and what are your thoughts on the phone 
> speed, feel, speakers, battery, etc.
>  
> Thanks / Regards
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appear offline in facebook

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks 

Is there a way to appear offline when using m.facebook.com on an idevice or pc 
or mac? I know you can do so in messenger and I know how to handle it but every 
time I go on m.facebook.com I appear online.
Regards
Davy 

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RE: Getting Rid of Apps List in Messages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, it is possible. Find the button called "Messaging Apps" to the left of the 
message text edit field (to the left of that is the "Attach Media" button.
Now double tap and hold on the "Messaging Apps" button and then slide your 
finger down to the bottom of the screen and the apps bar will go away.
You do, however, have to tap the actual button, if you just swipe to it to put 
Voiceover focus on it and then double tap and hold anywhere it will most likely 
not work, it didn't for me, I had to double tap and hold on the button.
Some people also said that a hard press and swipe down works, but I haven't 
tried it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Kelby Carlson
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Subject: Getting Rid of Apps List in Messages

Is there any way to get rid of the apps list in the messages app when composing 
a message? It makes the editing field really tough to find (can't just go to 
the bottom of the screen and swipe left a few times.)

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Getting Rid of Apps List in Messages

[Kelby Carlson]

Is there any way to get rid of the apps list in the messages app when 
composing a message? It makes the editing field really tough to find 
(can't just go to the bottom of the screen and swipe left a few times.)


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Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So, I’ve been a member of Bookshare since it started around 2002 or 2003.
I’ve downloaded probably thousands of books in this time. In the process of
doing so, the older format is not compatible with apps like VoiceDreamReader
on iOS or the book quality has since been replaced by a better
formatted/scanned version. That and I may have some books here and others
there. This and that backup on the cloud or external drive, etc.

My question is… is there in fact a way to download my entire book history in
one shot or am I looking at a labor intensive task sifting through God knows
how many titles that stretch back over ten years?

Would appreciate any info on whether this can be accomplished in a
reasonable manner. 

I’m a Windows user, but my main reading device is the iPhone these days. I
would ideally like to get everything on my PC first and then upload to the
iPhone.

 

Thanks,

Cristobal

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RE: Problem with bluetooth keyboard

[Connie Mohney]

Hello,

I can’t speak for your second question because I haven’t experienced that 
issue.  If you want to get out of an app press control vo plus the letter h is 
correct.  Press the letter h twice quickly and it should let you out.  Hope 
this helps.

 

Connie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 2:58 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Problem with bluetooth keyboard

 

Hello all,

When I try to do a control vo and H with the alt key on my matia wireless 
keyboard I can’t get out of an app.

Is it a possible bug in IOS 11?

Plus when I try to get in to an edit field it won’t let me turn it on.

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Youtube to mp3

[Candy Lowe]

Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone knows of a new site that allows you to convert 
youtube videos to mp3 on the iPhone.  I was using youtube to mp3.net, but, it 
no longer works.
A while back, someone had said that you could do it with the work flow app, 
but, I absolutely had no luck with that.  
Any help would be appreciated.

Candy

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A bit off topic, but relevant: Aira in Chicago

[Michael Hingson]

If anyone is in the Chicago area this Saturday and wants to learn more about
Aira drop by the AT store at 16 N. State Street in Chicago at 2PM where I
will be making a presentation about Aira. There will be a drawing for an
AT$500 gift card as well as other items will be given away. AT also will
be holding, as part of the event, an accessibility seminar on smart phone
use. 

 

 

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Re: 1Password users. Do you use the free app, the paid upgrade, or the subscription?

[Wayne Merritt]

I got 1Password a couple of years ago and have been using the free
versione ever since. I've thought of upgrading to the in-app purchase
of $10 for added features, but have not gotten around to it. The fre
version works the way I need it to, and keeps track of my passwords
just fine. I use it so often that 1Password has gotten a spot on my
home screen 2 of frequently used apps. At times I wish I could
rearrange the favorites page in 1Password, and perhaps the in-app
purchase would give me that ability, I don't really know, but it's not
a big deal to scroll and find the right account and password.

Wayne

On 10/6/17, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
> While I understand the differences between the free version of 1Password and
> the in-app upgrade for 1Password, I'm stumped as to the differences between
> that upgrade and the monthly 1Password Account paid subscription. If anyone
> can enlighten me, that'd be great!
>
> As far as using 1Password as my password manager, it's great! Completely
> accessible with VoiceOver on iDevices. There's a Windows version, too, and I
> think a Mac version (don't quote me on that last one) but the Windows
> version confused me. I wasn't really sure how to use it. I'm not sure if it
> was an accessibility issue or a usability issue; either way, I couldn't
> figure it out. It's been a while since I played with it on Windows, however,
> and things may have changed, either in the app or in my brain lol. Anyhow, I
> don't think you'll be at all disappointed with 1Password. :)
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>> On Oct 5, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to begin using 1Password, but I’m not sure if the free app would be
>> sufficient, or the app upgrade to Pro version, or the monthly
>> subscription.
>>
>> I’d like to learn from 1Password users which of these options are used,
>> and how you like them.
>>
>> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Mac and captchas

[Marie]

I never hear anyone asking about solving capchas on the Mac. How do you get 
past these annoying little creatures?
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Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

[Marie]

I was told just two days ago that it was not yet available so I hope it is 
true. That should mean that when I get the Sonos 1 I will be even happier. 
But I just downloaded the newest app from Sonos and there is no mention of 
Audible. Perhaps it will work through the Alexa feature.

Good news for sure.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening 
devices


The Sonos guy on the phone told me today that Audible is supported.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Marie

Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening 
devices


If I did not already own an Echo, I would definitely go with the Sonos 1 and 
in fact I am still going for the Sonos 1. The sound quality is one very good 
reason and the airplay is another. And having it in every room where you 
have a Sonos speaker is exciting. I am looking forward to this and the sales 
person told me they are working seriously to get Audible books to play on 
the speakers. While you can listen to them on the Echo you have to be in the 
same room but if you have Sonos speakers in several rooms, you will hear the 
book in each of those rooms.

Marie


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening 
devices


Hi Wayne,

I think you are comparing Apple and Oranges if you compare an Echo Dot and 
the new Sonos 1. First of all, if you are in a country where Alexa isn't 
offered you still won't automatically get it by buying a Sonos 1. I guess 
here in Canada you can make Alexa work, but it's always been my opinion that 
if Amazon can't be bothered to make Alexa available officially then I'm not 
going to jump through all sorts of hoops to get it.
As for the price comparison, the Sonos 1 especially if you buy a set and put 
them in stereo mode is a very different animal with respect to sound 
quality. Maybe you also have some sort of higher quality stereo or set of 
speakers or bluetooth speaker for enjoying music and this is really where 
the Sonos 1 comes in. Anyhow, if you want to put music through out your 
house Sonos is still one of the best options and as I said, you also get 
fully accessible access to things like Tune In, iHeart Radio, Spotify, 
Deezer, Sirius XM and many more, I believe Sonos supports 44 services in 
total both paid and free. If the Sonos 1 also has Airplay 2 built in it's 
very much a game-changer for iOS users since you only need one Airplay 
enabled device to allow your entire Sonos system to access it. For me this 
would mean I can take my Connect Amp and use it at my retail store and 
replace it with a Sonos 1 and I can also get rid of my setup where I use an 
Airport Express connected to the Connect Amp so I can Airplay to my Sonos 
system.
If all you want is an inexpensive voice assistant speaker and you don't care 
too much about sound quality then the Echo Dot is certainly the way to go, 
but even if Amazon made the Echo available here in Canada I believe it's 
much better to buy a Sonos 1 instead because it will eventually give you 
access to both Alexa and Google Assistant. I wouldn't be surprised if 
Cortana follows soon as well and then you have 3 of the 4 major voice 
assistants in one device.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Merritt

Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening 
devices


I have an Echo Dot at home, but don't use Siri very much. I do use Siri, but 
not constantly like I know some do. So for me, I have the Hey Siri feature 
turned off. It's not ahuge deal since I can hold the Home button osummon 
Siri if I need to. For the Echo Dot, though it is always listening, that 
does not bother me too much. However, it does have a mute button to stop it 
from listening, so that's good. It really hasn't been triggered too much by 
thinking it has heard the magic word. A few times, but not a ton. I 
understand how the Sonos devices getting Alexa would be a game changer for 
those not in countries supported by Alexa. However, for me it comes down to 
price; I can get an Echo Dot for $49, verses the $199 that Sonos charge for 
their new device.


Wayne

On 10/5/17, deidre muccio  wrote:

I notice that Tune In Radio is now giving me a morning greeting and a
button that I must hit on to open the app. Otherwise it will not close
out since the app is not open. Facebook has been doing this too. It
drives me crazy.
As far as listening goes, I unloaded the Facebook app 

RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I guess it’s just so sighted people see more at a glance. It looks like they 
show the most recent 8 Albums, Playlists or Stations and if you want to see all 
of them you just have to tap on the “See More” button. It’s not so different 
from how this works in other apps or even on the PC, if you open Word or Excel 
you see a certain number of your most recently used files except here you can 
say if you want to see the last 6, 8, 10 or whatever. I don’t think I have 
found a place where you could specify this for the My Sonos tab or where, if 
you wanted to, you could turn off to see only the most recent ones you used.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi,
Oh please do I think it could be useful for things like volume control and room 
selection for instance.
My only other question is perhaps you have some thoughts on design as it 
pertains to when you first enter the my sonos screen you only see a few of your 
favorites. I’m curious what the necessity for that is why not just take you to 
all of your favorites or give users a way to further select which favorites 
amongst favorites appear there or am I missing something?
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Interesting idea with the rotor in Sonos, I’ll have to suggest it to them and 
see if it could be used.
Once you get used to the new layout I think you find it more intuitive, I 
certainly do and like the tabs along the bottom better than how it was before.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi Sieghard,
Firstly thank you for making me smile. Secondly I wish your wife all manner of 
good things and an easy journey through her time of monitoring.
Thirdly I knew you’d know I just knew it. I think that was my mistake I might 
have been on the now playing screen and just didn’t realize it what with all 
the seeming newness. Suddenly I had an unintended grouping and hadn’t a clue 
how I did it. I like the new layout quite well enough. But I always think to 
myself in various places I do wish they’d make more use of the VoiceOver rotor. 
 It’d be neat to be able to change volume or rooms or such that way. Ah well 
maybe one day.
Thanks to you Neal and others for all your hard work on the betas for the 
benefit of us all.
Yes the new speakers do sound neat it’d be fun to play with one and I’m hoping 
you’ll report back should you have the chance to do so.
Thanks again.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi Robin, you silly girl,

OK, selecting a room is all done via the rooms tab. The trick is that one you 
tapped on a room and it’s selected, you are done in the rooms tab unless you 
want to group rooms.
Let’s say I want to play a particular song, album, artist or playlist in the 
Master Bedroom, then once that has started playing I want to select the Kitchen 
and select a radio station.
For sake of simplicity let’s assume both the album or playlist as well as the 
radio station are added to the “My Sonos” tab which is sort of a new thing 
where all your favourite stuff is.
So, I tap on the rooms tab and select Master Bedroom, now I go to the My Sonos 
tab and select the album or playlist, I may have to select if I want to play 
all the album or I can tap on a particular song, but that’s essentially it.
If you now check just above the Rooms tab, about in the middle near the bottom, 
it now says “Master Bedroom” followed by “currently playing and whatever it is 
that is playing. Double tap on that and the “Now Playing” screen opens, at the 
top left you can dismiss it.
Next, if you want to start your radio station in the Kitchen, dismiss the now 
playing screen, tap again on the rooms tab, select kitchen, go back to the My 
Sonos tab and select your radio station.
You could also go to the Browse tab and select any of your sources like your 
library or whichever music services you have set up.
If, let’s say you are on the now playing screen for Master Bedroom, there is a 
“Master Bedroom” button at the bottom centre. If you tap that and select 
another room it will be grouped with Master Bedroom so if you want to select 
another room entirely without grouping it as far as I know you have to close 
the now playing screen and go back to the rooms tab.

I haven’t checked about a limit on Favourites, but I like the My Sonos screen 
as it is 

Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Oh please do I think it could be useful for things like volume control and room 
selection for instance.
My only other question is perhaps you have some thoughts on design as it 
pertains to when you first enter the my sonos screen you only see a few of your 
favorites. I’m curious what the necessity for that is why not just take you to 
all of your favorites or give users a way to further select which favorites 
amongst favorites appear there or am I missing something?
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Interesting idea with the rotor in Sonos, I’ll have to suggest it to them and 
see if it could be used.

Once you get used to the new layout I think you find it more intuitive, I 
certainly do and like the tabs along the bottom better than how it was before.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Hi Sieghard,

Firstly thank you for making me smile. Secondly I wish your wife all manner of 
good things and an easy journey through her time of monitoring.

Thirdly I knew you’d know I just knew it. I think that was my mistake I might 
have been on the now playing screen and just didn’t realize it what with all 
the seeming newness. Suddenly I had an unintended grouping and hadn’t a clue 
how I did it. I like the new layout quite well enough. But I always think to 
myself in various places I do wish they’d make more use of the VoiceOver rotor. 
 It’d be neat to be able to change volume or rooms or such that way. Ah well 
maybe one day.

Thanks to you Neal and others for all your hard work on the betas for the 
benefit of us all.

Yes the new speakers do sound neat it’d be fun to play with one and I’m hoping 
you’ll report back should you have the chance to do so.

Thanks again.

Robin

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:10 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Hi Robin, you silly girl,

 

OK, selecting a room is all done via the rooms tab. The trick is that one you 
tapped on a room and it’s selected, you are done in the rooms tab unless you 
want to group rooms.

Let’s say I want to play a particular song, album, artist or playlist in the 
Master Bedroom, then once that has started playing I want to select the Kitchen 
and select a radio station.

For sake of simplicity let’s assume both the album or playlist as well as the 
radio station are added to the “My Sonos” tab which is sort of a new thing 
where all your favourite stuff is.

So, I tap on the rooms tab and select Master Bedroom, now I go to the My Sonos 
tab and select the album or playlist, I may have to select if I want to play 
all the album or I can tap on a particular song, but that’s essentially it.

If you now check just above the Rooms tab, about in the middle near the bottom, 
it now says “Master Bedroom” followed by “currently playing and whatever it is 
that is playing. Double tap on that and the “Now Playing” screen opens, at the 
top left you can dismiss it.

Next, if you want to start your radio station in the Kitchen, dismiss the now 
playing screen, tap again on the rooms tab, select kitchen, go back to the My 
Sonos tab and select your radio station.

You could also go to the Browse tab and select any of your sources like your 
library or whichever music services you have set up.

If, let’s say you are on the now playing screen for Master Bedroom, there is a 
“Master Bedroom” button at the bottom centre. If you tap that and select 
another room it will be grouped with Master Bedroom so if you want to select 
another room entirely without grouping it as far as I know you have to close 
the now playing screen and go back to the rooms tab.

 

I haven’t checked about a limit on Favourites, but I like the My Sonos screen 
as it is nicely set up for all your favourites whether they are artists, albums 
or playlists.

 

I have been on the beta program for Sonos for years, I just deleted the Sonos 8 
beta today and replaced it with the full version as that beta has ended. In the 
past I have always received an invitation for the next beta, I guess I will 
find out if I get invited to beta test Sonos 9.

I am very seriously considering buying one or two Sonos 1 speakers, I’ll be 
going back to Calgary in two weeks with my wife as she is going to have more 
seizure monitoring and possibly surgery so I might buy it at a Best Buy there 
as I can save myself 7% taxes if I buy in Alberta instead of here in British 
Columbia. I might just use 27000 Aeroplan points which would get me a $200 Best 
Buy gtift card for this. I definitely won’t order it now because by the time it 
would get shipped in late October we would already be not at home any more and 
there 

RE: adding ring and alert tones to iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As Sharon said, you don't copy them to anywhere. Just connect your phone, go to 
the device area by clicking on the iPhone button, then go to the device sidebar 
where you have "Summary" at the very top. Almost at the end is "Tones", go 
there and tab a few times until you are in a listview of ringtones. Now use 
Windows Explorer, go to the folder where you have saved your ringtones, copy 
one or multiple tones, go back to iTunes and just as if you were pasting them 
into a new folder or to a USB drive, when you are in your list of Tones paste 
them with Control+V. This will add them to your iPhone.
If you want to delete any of the tones you have to go back to the Summary tab 
first and make sure "Manually manage music videos" is checked, once that is 
done you can go to your Tones tab and tab to the listview of tones and simply 
press delete and it will disappear from the list and from your phone, but of 
course it will remain on your hard drive.
It is actually simplified in some ways, you don't have to first add the Tones 
to your tones library and then go to Tones in the device area where you then 
check them before doing a sync, now you just paste them and they are 
automatically synced. 

Regards,
Sieghard
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 5:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding ring and alert tones to iPhone

Where do you copy them to before bringing iTunes up?


On 10/6/2017 6:19 AM, sharon mace wrote:
> Hi,
> I guess you hadn't noticed a similar message I had asked. If you want 
> your ringtones  to show up on your phone you have to copy them from 
> your harddrive on your computer and then you have to bring iTunes up 
> and go to your iPhone and tab to the summary tab and arrow down and 
> paste them in the ringtones . For some reason iTunes no longer has a 
> ringtone section. Hope this helps you.
> Sharon
>
> On 10/6/17, Gordon  wrote:
>> So I used to add different tones that I had to my iPhone using iTunes.
>> However in this latest version of iTunes I don't see them anymore and 
>> when I select an m4r file and open it with iTunes, it wont play or 
>> show up there. Did they take this ability away as well with the 
>> recent changes? I still have the tones I had put on my phone prior to 
>> these changes, but those are no longer in iTunes nor will it allow me 
>> to add anything else.
>>
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RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Interesting idea with the rotor in Sonos, I’ll have to suggest it to them and 
see if it could be used.
Once you get used to the new layout I think you find it more intuitive, I 
certainly do and like the tabs along the bottom better than how it was before.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi Sieghard,
Firstly thank you for making me smile. Secondly I wish your wife all manner of 
good things and an easy journey through her time of monitoring.
Thirdly I knew you’d know I just knew it. I think that was my mistake I might 
have been on the now playing screen and just didn’t realize it what with all 
the seeming newness. Suddenly I had an unintended grouping and hadn’t a clue 
how I did it. I like the new layout quite well enough. But I always think to 
myself in various places I do wish they’d make more use of the VoiceOver rotor. 
 It’d be neat to be able to change volume or rooms or such that way. Ah well 
maybe one day.
Thanks to you Neal and others for all your hard work on the betas for the 
benefit of us all.
Yes the new speakers do sound neat it’d be fun to play with one and I’m hoping 
you’ll report back should you have the chance to do so.
Thanks again.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi Robin, you silly girl,

OK, selecting a room is all done via the rooms tab. The trick is that one you 
tapped on a room and it’s selected, you are done in the rooms tab unless you 
want to group rooms.
Let’s say I want to play a particular song, album, artist or playlist in the 
Master Bedroom, then once that has started playing I want to select the Kitchen 
and select a radio station.
For sake of simplicity let’s assume both the album or playlist as well as the 
radio station are added to the “My Sonos” tab which is sort of a new thing 
where all your favourite stuff is.
So, I tap on the rooms tab and select Master Bedroom, now I go to the My Sonos 
tab and select the album or playlist, I may have to select if I want to play 
all the album or I can tap on a particular song, but that’s essentially it.
If you now check just above the Rooms tab, about in the middle near the bottom, 
it now says “Master Bedroom” followed by “currently playing and whatever it is 
that is playing. Double tap on that and the “Now Playing” screen opens, at the 
top left you can dismiss it.
Next, if you want to start your radio station in the Kitchen, dismiss the now 
playing screen, tap again on the rooms tab, select kitchen, go back to the My 
Sonos tab and select your radio station.
You could also go to the Browse tab and select any of your sources like your 
library or whichever music services you have set up.
If, let’s say you are on the now playing screen for Master Bedroom, there is a 
“Master Bedroom” button at the bottom centre. If you tap that and select 
another room it will be grouped with Master Bedroom so if you want to select 
another room entirely without grouping it as far as I know you have to close 
the now playing screen and go back to the rooms tab.

I haven’t checked about a limit on Favourites, but I like the My Sonos screen 
as it is nicely set up for all your favourites whether they are artists, albums 
or playlists.

I have been on the beta program for Sonos for years, I just deleted the Sonos 8 
beta today and replaced it with the full version as that beta has ended. In the 
past I have always received an invitation for the next beta, I guess I will 
find out if I get invited to beta test Sonos 9.
I am very seriously considering buying one or two Sonos 1 speakers, I’ll be 
going back to Calgary in two weeks with my wife as she is going to have more 
seizure monitoring and possibly surgery so I might buy it at a Best Buy there 
as I can save myself 7% taxes if I buy in Alberta instead of here in British 
Columbia. I might just use 27000 Aeroplan points which would get me a $200 Best 
Buy gtift card for this. I definitely won’t order it now because by the time it 
would get shipped in late October we would already be not at home any more and 
there is little point to have it sitting here for 3 or 4 weeks until we get 
back.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi,
I updated to the newest version of the Sonos app this morning and my what an 
interesting makeover it seems to have received. As usual it’s extremely 
accessible for VoiceOver users and I’d expect no less from them at this point.
However, I am left with two 

Re: adding ring and alert tones to iPhone

[Gordon]

Where do you copy them to before bringing iTunes up?


On 10/6/2017 6:19 AM, sharon mace wrote:

Hi,
I guess you hadn't noticed a similar message I had asked. If you want
your ringtones  to show up on your phone you have to copy them from
your harddrive on your computer and then you have to bring iTunes up
and go to your iPhone and tab to the summary tab and arrow down and
paste them in the ringtones . For some reason iTunes no longer has a
ringtone section. Hope this helps you.
Sharon

On 10/6/17, Gordon  wrote:

So I used to add different tones that I had to my iPhone using iTunes.
However in this latest version of iTunes I don't see them anymore and
when I select an m4r file and open it with iTunes, it wont play or show
up there. Did they take this ability away as well with the recent
changes? I still have the tones I had put on my phone prior to these
changes, but those are no longer in iTunes nor will it allow me to add
anything else.

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Re: A really nasty bug I noticed

[Donna]

This sounds like a charging cord problem. I haven't updated to IOS 11 yet, but 
I had this same exact problem a couple of weeks ago.  After buying a new phone 
charger the problem hasn't occurred again. 

Donna
> 
> Not seeing this at all on my iPhone 8 plus.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A really nasty bug I noticed
> 
> I'm using the iPhone 7. As long as I get the click lock sound the phone 
> charges fine. But if I plug it in and it locked and then hit the power to 
> turn the screen off it doesn't click and doesn't charge.
> 
> 
>> On 10/5/2017 7:35 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
>> I can’t duplicate this on a 5s what type of phone is it your using?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2017, at 6:27 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So you plug your phone into the charger and hit the power button to lock 
>>> the phone before you put it down. If you don't hear the click lock sound, 
>>> the phone doesn't charge. When you unlock it the next time it says it's 
>>> charging, however the battery percentage is where it was before you put it 
>>> on the charger. So to avoid this, plug your phone in and unlock using the 
>>> home button like usual. Then hit the power button and you'll get the click 
>>> lock sound. Then the phone is charging. Has anyone else noticed this in IOS 
>>> 11?
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Re: adding ring and alert tones to iPhone

[sharon mace]

Hi,
I guess you hadn't noticed a similar message I had asked. If you want
your ringtones  to show up on your phone you have to copy them from
your harddrive on your computer and then you have to bring iTunes up
and go to your iPhone and tab to the summary tab and arrow down and
paste them in the ringtones . For some reason iTunes no longer has a
ringtone section. Hope this helps you.
Sharon

On 10/6/17, Gordon  wrote:
> So I used to add different tones that I had to my iPhone using iTunes.
> However in this latest version of iTunes I don't see them anymore and
> when I select an m4r file and open it with iTunes, it wont play or show
> up there. Did they take this ability away as well with the recent
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> anything else.
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RE: A really nasty bug I noticed

[Rick Alfaro]

Not seeing this at all on my iPhone 8 plus.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A really nasty bug I noticed

I'm using the iPhone 7. As long as I get the click lock sound the phone charges 
fine. But if I plug it in and it locked and then hit the power to turn the 
screen off it doesn't click and doesn't charge.


On 10/5/2017 7:35 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
> I can’t duplicate this on a 5s what type of phone is it your using?
>
>
>
>> On Oct 5, 2017, at 6:27 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> So you plug your phone into the charger and hit the power button to lock the 
>> phone before you put it down. If you don't hear the click lock sound, the 
>> phone doesn't charge. When you unlock it the next time it says it's 
>> charging, however the battery percentage is where it was before you put it 
>> on the charger. So to avoid this, plug your phone in and unlock using the 
>> home button like usual. Then hit the power button and you'll get the click 
>> lock sound. Then the phone is charging. Has anyone else noticed this in IOS 
>> 11?
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adding ring and alert tones to iPhone

[Gordon]

So I used to add different tones that I had to my iPhone using iTunes. 
However in this latest version of iTunes I don't see them anymore and 
when I select an m4r file and open it with iTunes, it wont play or show 
up there. Did they take this ability away as well with the recent 
changes? I still have the tones I had put on my phone prior to these 
changes, but those are no longer in iTunes nor will it allow me to add 
anything else.


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Re: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

[Robin Frost]

Hi Sieghard,
Firstly thank you for making me smile. Secondly I wish your wife all manner of 
good things and an easy journey through her time of monitoring.
Thirdly I knew you’d know I just knew it. I think that was my mistake I might 
have been on the now playing screen and just didn’t realize it what with all 
the seeming newness. Suddenly I had an unintended grouping and hadn’t a clue 
how I did it. I like the new layout quite well enough. But I always think to 
myself in various places I do wish they’d make more use of the VoiceOver rotor. 
 It’d be neat to be able to change volume or rooms or such that way. Ah well 
maybe one day.
Thanks to you Neal and others for all your hard work on the betas for the 
benefit of us all.
Yes the new speakers do sound neat it’d be fun to play with one and I’m hoping 
you’ll report back should you have the chance to do so.
Thanks again.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi Robin, you silly girl,

 

OK, selecting a room is all done via the rooms tab. The trick is that one you 
tapped on a room and it’s selected, you are done in the rooms tab unless you 
want to group rooms.

Let’s say I want to play a particular song, album, artist or playlist in the 
Master Bedroom, then once that has started playing I want to select the Kitchen 
and select a radio station.

For sake of simplicity let’s assume both the album or playlist as well as the 
radio station are added to the “My Sonos” tab which is sort of a new thing 
where all your favourite stuff is.

So, I tap on the rooms tab and select Master Bedroom, now I go to the My Sonos 
tab and select the album or playlist, I may have to select if I want to play 
all the album or I can tap on a particular song, but that’s essentially it.

If you now check just above the Rooms tab, about in the middle near the bottom, 
it now says “Master Bedroom” followed by “currently playing and whatever it is 
that is playing. Double tap on that and the “Now Playing” screen opens, at the 
top left you can dismiss it.

Next, if you want to start your radio station in the Kitchen, dismiss the now 
playing screen, tap again on the rooms tab, select kitchen, go back to the My 
Sonos tab and select your radio station.

You could also go to the Browse tab and select any of your sources like your 
library or whichever music services you have set up.

If, let’s say you are on the now playing screen for Master Bedroom, there is a 
“Master Bedroom” button at the bottom centre. If you tap that and select 
another room it will be grouped with Master Bedroom so if you want to select 
another room entirely without grouping it as far as I know you have to close 
the now playing screen and go back to the rooms tab.

 

I haven’t checked about a limit on Favourites, but I like the My Sonos screen 
as it is nicely set up for all your favourites whether they are artists, albums 
or playlists.

 

I have been on the beta program for Sonos for years, I just deleted the Sonos 8 
beta today and replaced it with the full version as that beta has ended. In the 
past I have always received an invitation for the next beta, I guess I will 
find out if I get invited to beta test Sonos 9.

I am very seriously considering buying one or two Sonos 1 speakers, I’ll be 
going back to Calgary in two weeks with my wife as she is going to have more 
seizure monitoring and possibly surgery so I might buy it at a Best Buy there 
as I can save myself 7% taxes if I buy in Alberta instead of here in British 
Columbia. I might just use 27000 Aeroplan points which would get me a $200 Best 
Buy gtift card for this. I definitely won’t order it now because by the time it 
would get shipped in late October we would already be not at home any more and 
there is little point to have it sitting here for 3 or 4 weeks until we get 
back.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

 

Hi,

I updated to the newest version of the Sonos app this morning and my what an 
interesting makeover it seems to have received. As usual it’s extremely 
accessible for VoiceOver users and I’d expect no less from them at this point.

However, I am left with two questions for which I couldn’t readily find 
answers. But I suspect Neil or Sieghard will laugh when they read them and say 
silly girl it’s so obvious (laughs).

Firstly have they increased the number of favorites one can have or are we 
still at 30? Secondly it used to be that merely selecting a different speaker 
would switch the app’s focus to that speaker sending your sound to it.  Today 
when I selected a different room it created a group with the room I’d selected 
previously. So how does one select a different speaker without 

Re: 1Password users. Do you use the free app, the paid upgrade, or the subscription?

[englishrider91]

While I understand the differences between the free version of 1Password and 
the in-app upgrade for 1Password, I'm stumped as to the differences between 
that upgrade and the monthly 1Password Account paid subscription. If anyone can 
enlighten me, that'd be great!

As far as using 1Password as my password manager, it's great! Completely 
accessible with VoiceOver on iDevices. There's a Windows version, too, and I 
think a Mac version (don't quote me on that last one) but the Windows version 
confused me. I wasn't really sure how to use it. I'm not sure if it was an 
accessibility issue or a usability issue; either way, I couldn't figure it out. 
It's been a while since I played with it on Windows, however, and things may 
have changed, either in the app or in my brain lol. Anyhow, I don't think 
you'll be at all disappointed with 1Password. :) 


Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 5, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I want to begin using 1Password, but I’m not sure if the free app would be 
> sufficient, or the app upgrade to Pro version, or the monthly subscription.
>  
> I’d like to learn from 1Password users which of these options are used, and 
> how you like them.
>  
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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RE: Iphone 8 VS 8+ or X

[Carl John de Campos]

Hi Sieghard,

 

Thanks for the excellent advise, I was also considering that option, as my 
carrier have various options for call time and Data at much cheaper rates than 
with the device, as I agree with you, the 6S is still pretty fast, battery is 
OK, and OCR won’t improve much on the newer phones, and video / camera quality 
is fine for what I use it for, it will most likely be better to wait for Iphone 
8S/9/11 next year which should have all the X features standardized.

 

 

 

Thanks / Regards

Carl de Campos

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Iphone 8 VS 8+ or X

 

Hi Carl,

 

I have a 6S Plus so I’m very much in the same position as you with your 6S. I 
am still very satisfied with the speed of my 6S Plus, yes, of course the A11 
Bionic will be a lot faster than the A9, but if that is really that noticeable 
with what I do is questionable. The same goes for the camera, I do believe the 
8 also has optical image stabilization now, but for OCR and object recognition 
etc. the 6S/6S Plus also work great.

I decided to definitely wait this one out, my guess is that next year all 
iPhones will have OLED screens and Face Id so where you would pay a pretty 
steep premium for this now, next year you may not. If you now have an 
off-contract phone then why not try and go to a provider if you have them in 
South Africa where you can maybe save a bit each months, here in Canada we 
don’t have as much choice as in the US or in many european countries, but since 
I am not on contract any more, I was able to find a $49/months plan which gives 
me unlimited calls and texts across Canada and 6 Gb of data. Before when I was 
under contract I paid $30 more for unlimited calls/texts but with only 3 Gb of 
data. $30 over one year is $360 which I will save in just that one year that I 
am keeping my 6S Plus.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carl John de Campos
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 10:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iphone 8 VS 8+ or X

 

Hi all,

 

I’m due for an upgrade soonand I’ve used my 6S 64 GB space gray for the past 
two years.

 

I’m firstly considering the Iphone 8 vs the 8+, of which the better reported 
battery life and larger screen work area (I also type a lot onscreen), are cons 
for the +, but smaller pocket size and cheaper price are cons for the 8.

 

I think the cameras are the same between the two so for youtube video making 
and OCR work they should be identical, but I have the following questions:

 

Do both 8 and 8+ have optical image stabilization?

Do both 8 and 8+ have stereo speakers, and do you think they would sound 
exactly the same (listening to audio books and youtube very important for 
better sound on phone speakers)?

And are there any other worth while mentioning differences between the two?

 

And lastly, I think the X would be everyone’s dream phone, but I already hear 
production is low and they may not ship enough units by 5 Nov to U.S., thus to 
South Africa will probably take another million years, plus cost, at $1000 
starting, by the time South Africa gets it it will cost excessively more than 
the 8 and 8+.  Wondering if worth waiting vs the price.

 

Do any of you have your 8 or 8+ yet, and what are your thoughts on the phone 
speed, feel, speakers, battery, etc.

 

Thanks / Regards

Carl de Campos

SQL DBA

Business Connection

Cell:  0614184262

E-mail:  carljdecam...@gmail.com

 

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RE: Iphone 8 VS 8+ or X

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Carl,

I have a 6S Plus so I’m very much in the same position as you with your 6S. I 
am still very satisfied with the speed of my 6S Plus, yes, of course the A11 
Bionic will be a lot faster than the A9, but if that is really that noticeable 
with what I do is questionable. The same goes for the camera, I do believe the 
8 also has optical image stabilization now, but for OCR and object recognition 
etc. the 6S/6S Plus also work great.
I decided to definitely wait this one out, my guess is that next year all 
iPhones will have OLED screens and Face Id so where you would pay a pretty 
steep premium for this now, next year you may not. If you now have an 
off-contract phone then why not try and go to a provider if you have them in 
South Africa where you can maybe save a bit each months, here in Canada we 
don’t have as much choice as in the US or in many european countries, but since 
I am not on contract any more, I was able to find a $49/months plan which gives 
me unlimited calls and texts across Canada and 6 Gb of data. Before when I was 
under contract I paid $30 more for unlimited calls/texts but with only 3 Gb of 
data. $30 over one year is $360 which I will save in just that one year that I 
am keeping my 6S Plus.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carl John de Campos
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 10:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iphone 8 VS 8+ or X

Hi all,

I’m due for an upgrade soonand I’ve used my 6S 64 GB space gray for the past 
two years.

I’m firstly considering the Iphone 8 vs the 8+, of which the better reported 
battery life and larger screen work area (I also type a lot onscreen), are cons 
for the +, but smaller pocket size and cheaper price are cons for the 8.

I think the cameras are the same between the two so for youtube video making 
and OCR work they should be identical, but I have the following questions:

Do both 8 and 8+ have optical image stabilization?
Do both 8 and 8+ have stereo speakers, and do you think they would sound 
exactly the same (listening to audio books and youtube very important for 
better sound on phone speakers)?
And are there any other worth while mentioning differences between the two?

And lastly, I think the X would be everyone’s dream phone, but I already hear 
production is low and they may not ship enough units by 5 Nov to U.S., thus to 
South Africa will probably take another million years, plus cost, at $1000 
starting, by the time South Africa gets it it will cost excessively more than 
the 8 and 8+.  Wondering if worth waiting vs the price.

Do any of you have your 8 or 8+ yet, and what are your thoughts on the phone 
speed, feel, speakers, battery, etc.

Thanks / Regards
Carl de Campos
SQL DBA
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RE: iPhone 8 and Aftershokz Trekx Titanium

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This is new behaviour in iOS 11, you can turn bluetooth or WiFi off in the 
Control Centre and it will actually only disconnect you from your currently 
connected device, only if you go to Settings > WiFi or Settings > Bluetooth and 
turn them off there will they truly be turned off.
As for your headset, is Voiceover staying on the phone or ddoes it disappear 
and you hear nothing? If this is the case it may just that volume has dropped 
to 0, press the volume button repeatedly to bring it up.
If Voiceover does not switch at all and remains on the phone then somehow your 
headset is not paired and if it shows up in the list I would tap on the More 
button beside it, then tap “Forget this device” and try to pair it again.
Even though after I updated to iOS 11 my Voyager Edge was still in the list of 
devices, it did not work and I had to forget it and pair it again. All my 
bluetooth devices work fine under iOS 11 so it should work.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 8 and Aftershokz Trekx Titanium

Today I bought an iPhone 8 and attempted to pair my Trekz Titanium headset. The 
Trekz indicates that it has connected with the phone, and the phone indicates 
bluetooth connected in the status bar, but i can't get audio to pllay through 
the headset. Under Settings, Bluetooth, it does not indicate that there are any 
bluetooth devices connected. What is interesting is that in the status bar it 
indicated bluetooth connected even when there is no bluetooth device connected. 
I know this seems weird, but does anyone have any thoughts?

Andy

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RE: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Robin, you silly girl,

OK, selecting a room is all done via the rooms tab. The trick is that one you 
tapped on a room and it’s selected, you are done in the rooms tab unless you 
want to group rooms.
Let’s say I want to play a particular song, album, artist or playlist in the 
Master Bedroom, then once that has started playing I want to select the Kitchen 
and select a radio station.
For sake of simplicity let’s assume both the album or playlist as well as the 
radio station are added to the “My Sonos” tab which is sort of a new thing 
where all your favourite stuff is.
So, I tap on the rooms tab and select Master Bedroom, now I go to the My Sonos 
tab and select the album or playlist, I may have to select if I want to play 
all the album or I can tap on a particular song, but that’s essentially it.
If you now check just above the Rooms tab, about in the middle near the bottom, 
it now says “Master Bedroom” followed by “currently playing and whatever it is 
that is playing. Double tap on that and the “Now Playing” screen opens, at the 
top left you can dismiss it.
Next, if you want to start your radio station in the Kitchen, dismiss the now 
playing screen, tap again on the rooms tab, select kitchen, go back to the My 
Sonos tab and select your radio station.
You could also go to the Browse tab and select any of your sources like your 
library or whichever music services you have set up.
If, let’s say you are on the now playing screen for Master Bedroom, there is a 
“Master Bedroom” button at the bottom centre. If you tap that and select 
another room it will be grouped with Master Bedroom so if you want to select 
another room entirely without grouping it as far as I know you have to close 
the now playing screen and go back to the rooms tab.

I haven’t checked about a limit on Favourites, but I like the My Sonos screen 
as it is nicely set up for all your favourites whether they are artists, albums 
or playlists.

I have been on the beta program for Sonos for years, I just deleted the Sonos 8 
beta today and replaced it with the full version as that beta has ended. In the 
past I have always received an invitation for the next beta, I guess I will 
find out if I get invited to beta test Sonos 9.
I am very seriously considering buying one or two Sonos 1 speakers, I’ll be 
going back to Calgary in two weeks with my wife as she is going to have more 
seizure monitoring and possibly surgery so I might buy it at a Best Buy there 
as I can save myself 7% taxes if I buy in Alberta instead of here in British 
Columbia. I might just use 27000 Aeroplan points which would get me a $200 Best 
Buy gtift card for this. I definitely won’t order it now because by the time it 
would get shipped in late October we would already be not at home any more and 
there is little point to have it sitting here for 3 or 4 weeks until we get 
back.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Query about newest version of the Sonos App

Hi,
I updated to the newest version of the Sonos app this morning and my what an 
interesting makeover it seems to have received. As usual it’s extremely 
accessible for VoiceOver users and I’d expect no less from them at this point.
However, I am left with two questions for which I couldn’t readily find 
answers. But I suspect Neil or Sieghard will laugh when they read them and say 
silly girl it’s so obvious (laughs).
Firstly have they increased the number of favorites one can have or are we 
still at 30? Secondly it used to be that merely selecting a different speaker 
would switch the app’s focus to that speaker sending your sound to it.  Today 
when I selected a different room it created a group with the room I’d selected 
previously. So how does one select a different speaker without creating a 
group? See told you it’s probably ridiculously obvious but my weary brain just 
didn’t hit upon it today so I apologize in advance and say thanks for the 
rescue today (smile).
Robin

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