RE: iPhone 8 with the messaging app.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You must have deleted some messages because the “Null” appears in the place of 
where the message was.
If you exit the Messages app, then bring up the app switcher and close it 
completely, then reopen it the “Null” occurances will be gone and all should be 
as always.

Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 8 with the messaging app.

Interesting that I am seeing "Null", but I'm not deleting any messages.
What does seeing "Null" mean and is there a work around so that I can continue 
to scroll?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 8 with the messaging app.

Is it because you deleted messages using the rotor and then you have that blank 
space which Voiceover reads as “null”? It almost sounds like that because 
closing the app will fix this.

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 8 with the messaging app.

Hi: I'm experiencing a reoccurring problem in the messages app with the iPhone 
8. The app seems to lock and I can only scroll through certain messages (say 10 
or so); and can't get down through the older ones or up to the newer ones. So 
what I have to do is go to the app switcher and close the messages app, then it 
is fine.
Is anyone experiencing this problem, and is there a solution?
Thanks.
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RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I did not have the problem, all my custom ringtones were still there.
Maybe the Reset Network Settings does help here, don't know, but I have had 
very few if any of the issues some people here mentioned except of course for 
those which are actually bugs like the deleting of text messages wit the rotor 
etc.

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Marie
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

I also have an issue with the ringtones with IOS 11 and my IPhone 7. But my 
problem is that after any kind of update, the special  ringtones I set for 
certain contacts reverts back to the old default ringtone,"Opening" 
Thankfully there are only a handful of contact to which I have assigned 
ringtones, but it is annoying to have to reset them each time.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Liz Ulrich and LD Hope
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com
Subject: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

I am having an issue with the ringtone on my iPhone 7-plus since updating to 
IOS--11. When I receive a call from any one who I have not assigned a ringtone 
to, the default tone happens. I tried to change my tone to one that I have 
purchased, and the tone shows up as changed, but the old default tone is still 
ringing. I changed it in settings and in my contacts, but it does not work. Am 
I missing something?


Sent from my iPhone
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1

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Re: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

[Arnold Schmidt]

Not only do I think the downloading of an entire library not possible, I don't 
think Bookshare would want it to be possible. I think I remember reading in one 
of their policy statements that their reason for being was not so that people 
could amass their own private library, rather to have access to books one 
wanted to read in the present or immediate future, then delete them. One can 
access their book history, and also keep reading lists on Bookshare itself, but 
Bookshare is meant to be a  service from which one can have a library from 
which one can borrow books, then delete them, as opposed to Kindle, or Audible, 
where one purchases them. 

Arnold Schmidt 

On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Bonnie Blose  wrote:

I don't think this is possible. You would have to redownload the books in the 
format presently used. When this happened to me, I got rid of the books that 
didn't work as I had many in the older format. It was time consuming in the 
extreme. Since Bookshare has a monthly limit of how much can be downloaded, you 
would have to download your thousands again over a long period of time. This is 
one of the reasons I keep a book list of what I have read. What gets confusing 
too is multiple books with the same title by so many different authors. Good 
luck. I don't know if what I said here helped but hope it may have.
 
Bonnie Blose,
 
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Beth G
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Richard Turner 
Subject: Re: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once
 
Hi, if you figure this out, I would like to know the answer as well.

Thank you

Beth
 
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:

I don't think this is possible.

 
On 10/7/2017 3:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I have no idea how this could be accomplished.  Have you contacted Bookshare 
yet?
 
Richard
 
 
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Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once
 
Hello list,
So, I’ve been a member of Bookshare since it started around 2002 or 2003. I’ve 
downloaded probably thousands of books in this time. In the process of doing 
so, the older format is not compatible with apps like VoiceDreamReader on iOS 
or the book quality has since been replaced by a better formatted/scanned 
version. That and I may have some books here and others there. This and that 
backup on the cloud or external drive, etc.
My question is… is there in fact a way to download my entire book history in 
one shot or am I looking at a labor intensive task sifting through God knows 
how many titles that stretch back over ten years?
Would appreciate any info on whether this can be accomplished in a reasonable 
manner.
I’m a Windows user, but my main reading device is the iPhone these days. I 
would ideally like to get everything on my PC first and then upload to the 
iPhone.
 
Thanks,
Cristobal
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Re: Problem with Kindle app

[Arnold Schmidt]

When you are within a book and have stopped reading, double tap the screen and 
it should say menu. This is a menu of items for that specific book. In the top 
left of the screen should be a button that says menu. Double tap this, and 
there are further options dealing with the specific book, and other options, 
one of which is a library button in the top left of the screen. This will take 
you out of the book, into your library. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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On Oct 7, 2017, at 4:40 PM,   
wrote:

I have already closed Kindle in the app switcher.  I powered the phone down and 
re-started. I opened Kindle and tried again to access the menu.  I was about to 
write back that it still doesn't work, when lo and behold, here came the menu.  
I haven't figured out how to get it consistently, but at least it's not gone.

Kathy Blackburn
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RE: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

[Bonnie Blose]

I don't think this is possible. You would have to redownload the books in the 
format presently used. When this happened to me, I got rid of the books that 
didn't work as I had many in the older format. It was time consuming in the 
extreme. Since Bookshare has a monthly limit of how much can be downloaded, you 
would have to download your thousands again over a long period of time. This is 
one of the reasons I keep a book list of what I have read. What gets confusing 
too is multiple books with the same title by so many different authors. Good 
luck. I don't know if what I said here helped but hope it may have. 

 

Bonnie Blose, 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Beth G
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Richard Turner 
Subject: Re: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

 

Hi, if you figure this out, I would like to know the answer as well.

Thank you

Beth

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 7, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Kelby Carlson  > wrote:

I don't think this is possible.

 

On 10/7/2017 3:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I have no idea how this could be accomplished.  Have you contacted Bookshare 
yet?

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

 

Hello list,

So, I’ve been a member of Bookshare since it started around 2002 or 2003. I’ve 
downloaded probably thousands of books in this time. In the process of doing 
so, the older format is not compatible with apps like VoiceDreamReader on iOS 
or the book quality has since been replaced by a better formatted/scanned 
version. That and I may have some books here and others there. This and that 
backup on the cloud or external drive, etc.

My question is… is there in fact a way to download my entire book history in 
one shot or am I looking at a labor intensive task sifting through God knows 
how many titles that stretch back over ten years?

Would appreciate any info on whether this can be accomplished in a reasonable 
manner. 

I’m a Windows user, but my main reading device is the iPhone these days. I 
would ideally like to get everything on my PC first and then upload to the 
iPhone.

 

Thanks,

Cristobal

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Re: How to make a calendar entry using Siri

[Mary Otten]

Thanks for all the helpful responses. Now all I have to do is remember this. I 
know I have seen this post before, probably even save something although I 
couldn't find it today when I was looking.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Sandra E. Finley  wrote:
> 
> Mary, I do as Richard said but I often add “location” at the end. 
> 
> So I will say something like:
> “Schedule an appointment for October X at X time; Title is X and location is 
> X.”  HTH.
> 
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> 
>> On Oct 7, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> There are several ways to do this, but the syntax I have settled on is to 
>> say:
>> "create an appointment titled Dr. Smith on November first at 10 AM."
>> Siri will repeat it and ask if you want it scheduled, say yes and you are 
>> done.
>> 
>> You can add the length of the appointment to by saying create a 90 minute 
>> appointment, and so on.
>> I hope that helps,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 12:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How to make a calendar entry using Siri
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Occasionally I have tried to use Siri to make a calendar entry. Usually 
>> something messes up. I think there is a certain specific syntax you have to 
>> use, and then it works. I don't use it often enough to remember that syntax. 
>> Can someone please refresh my memory. It would be awfully nice if Siri could 
>> become smart enough not to need specific syntax in order to get a simple 
>> calendar entry correct. Maybe this has improved in iOS 11??
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How to make a calendar entry using Siri

[Sandra E. Finley]

Mary, I do as Richard said but I often add “location” at the end. 

So I will say something like:
“Schedule an appointment for October X at X time; Title is X and location is 
X.”  HTH.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> There are several ways to do this, but the syntax I have settled on is to say:
> "create an appointment titled Dr. Smith on November first at 10 AM."
> Siri will repeat it and ask if you want it scheduled, say yes and you are 
> done.
> 
> You can add the length of the appointment to by saying create a 90 minute 
> appointment, and so on.
> I hope that helps,
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 12:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How to make a calendar entry using Siri
> 
> Hi all,
> Occasionally I have tried to use Siri to make a calendar entry. Usually 
> something messes up. I think there is a certain specific syntax you have to 
> use, and then it works. I don't use it often enough to remember that syntax. 
> Can someone please refresh my memory. It would be awfully nice if Siri could 
> become smart enough not to need specific syntax in order to get a simple 
> calendar entry correct. Maybe this has improved in iOS 11??
> 
> 
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Re: Native Mail App

[dollar031]

Hi,  Sorry for a late response.  I am using the native mail app for my email.  
I have noticed that sometimes that I am missing some emails once a while.  I 
have a question for you all.  How can I stop the mail native app for missing 
some emails?  Does this has to do with the fetch?  Is there a way that I can 
turn the fetch offf?  Thank you,  Scott Dollar 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 30, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you go into accounts and password, you can turn push on for your Gmail 
> account and you will get pretty immediate downloads for all new mail.
> 
> But no, Apple has not set the inbox up to delete all at once, but you can 
> double tap on the edit button in the upper right corner, then double tap on 
> the emails you want to delete and they will say selected then when you hit 
> delete it will delete all the selected messages.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Anthony Vece 
> Subject: Re: Native Mail App
> 
> Also, because I have a Gmail account I can't get live fetching so don't 
> get up-to-date notifications when I get mail.
> 
> 
>> On 9/30/2017 2:35 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
>> I never thought about using any other app.
>> 
>> The majority of my mail is gmail and, I still use the native app.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8!!!
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2017, at 2:22 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
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>>> How many of you use the iOS mail app over third party apps, and what would 
>>> you say are its advantages?
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Re: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

[Dani Pagador]

I don't think it's possible. It'd be like me trying to download my
entire Previously Downloaded list from BARD; for that you'd need to
add each book individually to the Wish List and then download them one
by one. I've got at least eight years worth of books on that list. :)

I know that they're two different services, but think they're the same
in at least that respect.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

More Later,
Dani



On 10/7/17, Beth G  wrote:
> Hi,
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> If you find out the answer, I would like know this as well.
>
> Thank you,
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> Beth
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> P. S. Sorry if this message came across twice
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Cristóbal  wrote:
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>> Hello list,
>> So, I’ve been a member of Bookshare since it started around 2002 or 2003.
>> I’ve downloaded probably thousands of books in this time. In the process
>> of doing so, the older format is not compatible with apps like
>> VoiceDreamReader on iOS or the book quality has since been replaced by a
>> better formatted/scanned version. That and I may have some books here and
>> others there. This and that backup on the cloud or external drive, etc.
>> My question is… is there in fact a way to download my entire book history
>> in one shot or am I looking at a labor intensive task sifting through God
>> knows how many titles that stretch back over ten years?
>> Would appreciate any info on whether this can be accomplished in a
>> reasonable manner.
>> I’m a Windows user, but my main reading device is the iPhone these days. I
>> would ideally like to get everything on my PC first and then upload to the
>> iPhone.
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Re: More problems with voice dream reader

[Lois Butterfield]

I am just wondering why you would want all of the books you ever read on your 
phone?  I am only curious.  Is there a way to find on bookshare your reading 
history?

Thanks,
Lois

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: More problems with voice dream reader


i'm using the latest Voice Dream Reader and the latest iOS 11.0.2, and reading 
is fine. I am not using the cloud sync. I have an iPod Touch 6 with 128 GB 
which has about 53 GB available. 
I use Amy from Ivona as my reading voice.
Sorry I cannot duplicate your issue.
Well, actually I'm glad I don't have it, but sorry things are going south for 
you.
Richard





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 7, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Dana Leet  wrote:


  The problem is if you uninstall and reinstall voice dream reader you lose 
everything in your library so that is why I do not plan on doing this. Please 
by all means ask everyone that is having this problem contact the Voice Dream 
people, because when I did they told me no one was having this problem and then 
their solution was to refund me saying that my iPhone didn’t have enough space, 
and that I didn’t have enough room on my iCloud Drive which is absolutely 
insane. I say this, because I have a 128 gig phone I’m only using 29 gigs of 
that 128 gigs and not only that I pay the extra money for space on iCloud and 
I’m my iCloud drive I have over 30 gigs left of room so there is no reason that 
there is not room to take care of my library honestly this update is just not 
doing something right and they need to know about it because obviously what I’m 
stating is not believed for some reason.


  If you love to read
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  Sentfrom my iPhone

  On Oct 7, 2017, at 1:34 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:


Hello,
My husband is having the exact same problem. He is re-installing it. I will 
let you know if it works.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

On Oct 7, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Dana Leet  wrote:


  Hello everyone. Many of you knew, that I had a problem with the voice 
dream reader library, and then was able to do iCloud back up to restore 
everything. Now today, the latest update a voice dream reader, allows me to 
read for about 15 to 20 seconds, and then completely closes out and it is very 
very sluggish when I am swiping right and left going through my books and just 
wants to close whenever it feels like it just curious if others are having 
problems with this app


  If you love to read
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https://chat.whatsapp.com/KXAR5Ao2tqiERKfgrEWiT6 




 



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Re: More problems with voice dream reader

[Richard Turner]

i'm using the latest Voice Dream Reader and the latest iOS 11.0.2, and reading 
is fine. I am not using the cloud sync. I have an iPod Touch 6 with 128 GB 
which has about 53 GB available.
I use Amy from Ivona as my reading voice.
Sorry I cannot duplicate your issue.
Well, actually I'm glad I don't have it, but sorry things are going south for 
you.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 7, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Dana Leet 
> wrote:

The problem is if you uninstall and reinstall voice dream reader you lose 
everything in your library so that is why I do not plan on doing this. Please 
by all means ask everyone that is having this problem contact the Voice Dream 
people, because when I did they told me no one was having this problem and then 
their solution was to refund me saying that my iPhone didn’t have enough space, 
and that I didn’t have enough room on my iCloud Drive which is absolutely 
insane. I say this, because I have a 128 gig phone I’m only using 29 gigs of 
that 128 gigs and not only that I pay the extra money for space on iCloud and 
I’m my iCloud drive I have over 30 gigs left of room so there is no reason that 
there is not room to take care of my library honestly this update is just not 
doing something right and they need to know about it because obviously what I’m 
stating is not believed for some reason.

 If you love to read

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On Oct 7, 2017, at 1:34 PM, Nancy Badger 
> wrote:

Hello,
My husband is having the exact same problem. He is re-installing it. I will let 
you know if it works.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

On Oct 7, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Dana Leet 
> wrote:

 Hello everyone. Many of you knew, that I had a problem with the voice dream 
reader library, and then was able to do iCloud back up to restore everything. 
Now today, the latest update a voice dream reader, allows me to read for about 
15 to 20 seconds, and then completely closes out and it is very very sluggish 
when I am swiping right and left going through my books and just wants to close 
whenever it feels like it just curious if others are having problems with this 
app

 If you love to read

‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: 
https://chat.whatsapp.com/KXAR5Ao2tqiERKfgrEWiT6






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Re: More problems with voice dream reader

[Dana Leet]

The problem is if you uninstall and reinstall voice dream reader you lose 
everything in your library so that is why I do not plan on doing this. Please 
by all means ask everyone that is having this problem contact the Voice Dream 
people, because when I did they told me no one was having this problem and then 
their solution was to refund me saying that my iPhone didn’t have enough space, 
and that I didn’t have enough room on my iCloud Drive which is absolutely 
insane. I say this, because I have a 128 gig phone I’m only using 29 gigs of 
that 128 gigs and not only that I pay the extra money for space on iCloud and 
I’m my iCloud drive I have over 30 gigs left of room so there is no reason that 
there is not room to take care of my library honestly this update is just not 
doing something right and they need to know about it because obviously what I’m 
stating is not believed for some reason.

 If you love to read   
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> On Oct 7, 2017, at 1:34 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
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> Hello,
> My husband is having the exact same problem. He is re-installing it. I will 
> let you know if it works.
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Executive Director of Counseling
> Old Dominion University
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Dana Leet  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hello everyone. Many of you knew, that I had a problem with the voice dream 
>> reader library, and then was able to do iCloud back up to restore 
>> everything. Now today, the latest update a voice dream reader, allows me to 
>> read for about 15 to 20 seconds, and then completely closes out and it is 
>> very very sluggish when I am swiping right and left going through my books 
>> and just wants to close whenever it feels like it just curious if others are 
>> having problems with this app
>> 
>>  If you love to read   
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Re: Any Tv guide apps

[Andy Baracco]

I like and use TV Guide Mobile on a daily basis. The initial setup is a little 
tricky, but once set up it is very accessible.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lelia 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 7:04 AM
  Subject: Any Tv guide apps


  Hi all, So our tv finally works and we don’t have cable so all I want is a 
simple tv guide app to let me know what’s on my local channels please.

   

  Also, since I know we’re not supposed to send thank you messages I will say 
thank you in advance.

   

  Lelia 


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Re: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

[Andy Baracco]

www.lyft.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Simon Wong" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift



Do we get lift here in canada? does anyone know?

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 7, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:

Hi Terri;

I have no problems with either app.

Once in a while I receive promotions from Lyft for 10 per cent off rides 
between 9 a

M to 5 PM with Lyft.


On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Terri Stimmel  
wrote:


Hello all,


I know there have been many questions on this list, regarding both of
these services. Unfortunately, I didn't keep up with the threads,
because I don't travel alone. Just a personal choice.

However, now I have some questions about both services.


First of all, is there a difference in the services?

Is 1 better over the other? I know that will be opinion. But sometimes
there isn't anything wrong with this.


Is 1 App easier to use than the other?

Now if I set up 1 of these Apps on my phone, do you always have to pay
with a card?

And if the App is on my phone, can I send an Uber, or Lift driver to
maybe pick a friend up, as long as the charges are set to my card?

Also, will you know ahead of time how much a trip might cost?

What does each App go by, when it comes to pricing?


Any help with any of this would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

[Andy Baracco]

The answer to pretty much all of your questions is yes. i find that the 
services are pretty much the same, in fact many drivers drive for both 
services. I find the apps easy to use, but i guess that's a matter of skill 
level, self confidence, etc. Yes, you pay with a credit or devit card, and 
this info is given when you set the app up. Yes, you can make stops along 
the way. Yes, you can schedule a ride for someone else, but it will be 
charged to you. With lyft, you choose a tip amount, and it is added to the 
charge on your card. I believe that you can tip Uber drivers with cash, if 
you prefer.
Each company offers several ride options that vary with your geographical 
area. In large cities like L. A. for example, Uber and Lyft both have a 
shared ride service which saves you some money if you don't mind sharing the 
ride with another passenger. I find that the trips are intuitively 
scheduled, so you are not taken much out of your way to pick up and drop off 
the other passenger.
In some cities Uber has a service called Access which uses a wheelchair 
equipped vehicle, and the drivers receive additional training for serving 
folks with disabilities. i do not know if Lyft offers this service.
in some cities, you can schedule rides in advance. I know you can do this 
with lyft, not sure about Uber. The web sites for both are very informative, 
and will tell you which services are available in your particular area.
There is also a service for seniors called Go Go Grandparent, which allows 
you to order these rides by making a phonecall.
This service is offered by Great Call, You can call 855 464-6872 to sign up 
and order rides from this service. Note that there is an additional charge 
per ride when you use this service.

HTH!
Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Terri Stimmel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 5:57 AM
Subject: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift



Hello all,


I know there have been many questions on this list, regarding both of
these services. Unfortunately, I didn't keep up with the threads,
because I don't travel alone. Just a personal choice.

However, now I have some questions about both services.


First of all, is there a difference in the services?

Is 1 better over the other? I know that will be opinion. But sometimes
there isn't anything wrong with this.


Is 1 App easier to use than the other?

Now if I set up 1 of these Apps on my phone, do you always have to pay
with a card?

And if the App is on my phone, can I send an Uber, or Lift driver to
maybe pick a friend up, as long as the charges are set to my card?

Also, will you know ahead of time how much a trip might cost?

What does each App go by, when it comes to pricing?


Any help with any of this would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: messenger in facebook

[dollar031]

Hi,  It is not a bug.  You have to get use to the new changes.  If you have 
noticed that if there is a problems with the Messenger itself, I am going to 
advise you to uninstall and reinstall it which it will fix the problems.   Hope 
this help you.  Cheers,  Scott Dollar 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 3:52 AM, Carol Adams  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I’ve had this problem quite a lot actually and I’ve had to literally 
> start a new message and delete the one I’m trying to do before it will let me 
> type something I think it must be a bug, Carol
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 7 Oct 2017, at 06:22, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Guys and Guyesses, just wondering if anybody else keeps getting chucked 
>> out of messenger when in facebook or just using messenger itself.  It has 
>> been fine until yesterday so don’t know what’s happening.  Janet
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Re: Problem with Kindle app

[kblackbn]

I have already closed Kindle in the app switcher.  I powered the phone down and 
re-started. I opened Kindle and tried again to access the menu.  I was about to 
write back that it still doesn't work, when lo and behold, here came the menu.  
I haven't figured out how to get it consistently, but at least it's not gone.

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Re: More problems with voice dream reader

[Kelby Carlson]

I am having similar problems.


On 10/7/2017 2:31 PM, Lois Butterfield wrote:
I have had no problems with VDR since the update.  I only have about 
15 books at a time in the app though, not a huge library.

Take care,
Lois
*From:* Greg Wocher 
*Sent:* Saturday, October 07, 2017 1:20 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: More problems with voice dream reader
Hello,
I am not seeing this issue. It seems to be working just fine on my 
iPhone 7plus running iOS11.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On Oct 7, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Dana Leet > wrote:
Hello everyone. Many of you knew, that I had a problem with the voice 
dream reader library, and then was able to do iCloud back up to 
restore everything. Now today, the latest update a voice dream 
reader, allows me to read for about 15 to 20 seconds, and then 
completely closes out and it is very very sluggish when I am swiping 
right and left going through my books and just wants to close 
whenever it feels like it just curious if others are having problems 
with this app


If you love to read
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Re: Iphone 8 VS 8+ or X

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
In the iPhone X both lenses of the dual camera setup have image stabilization. 
On the 8plus only one of the dual lenses has the image stabilization. 


Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On Oct 7, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I am 99.9% sure that this is incorrect. There is something else that's 
> available only on the X, but it's not that. Optical image stabilization is 
> even on the 7+. Could it be maybe only for the back camera? There's more to 
> this than just saying it's not available.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 7, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Maria Reyes  
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>> Actually optical image stabilization is only available on the iPhone X
>> 
>> Maria Reyes 
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>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 2:36 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, I think optical image stabilization is only available on the 8+, and 
>>> to be honest I am very happy with my 6s for both sound quality and general 
>>> usage. Enough said and good luck with your decision making.
>>> 
 On 6 Oct 2017, at 06:53, Carl John de Campos  
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I’m due for an upgrade soonand I’ve used my 6S 64 GB space gray for the 
 past two years.
 
 I’m firstly considering the Iphone 8 vs the 8+, of which the better 
 reported battery life and larger screen work area (I also type a lot 
 onscreen), are cons for the +, but smaller pocket size and cheaper price 
 are cons for the 8.
 
 I think the cameras are the same between the two so for youtube video 
 making and OCR work they should be identical, but I have the following 
 questions:
 
 Do both 8 and 8+ have optical image stabilization?
 Do both 8 and 8+ have stereo speakers, and do you think they would sound 
 exactly the same (listening to audio books and youtube very important for 
 better sound on phone speakers)?
 And are there any other worth while mentioning differences between the two?
 
 And lastly, I think the X would be everyone’s dream phone, but I already 
 hear production is low and they may not ship enough units by 5 Nov to 
 U.S., thus to South Africa will probably take another million years, plus 
 cost, at $1000 starting, by the time South Africa gets it it will cost 
 excessively more than the 8 and 8+.  Wondering if worth waiting vs the 
 price.
 
 Do any of you have your 8 or 8+ yet, and what are your thoughts on the 
 phone speed, feel, speakers, battery, etc.
 
 Thanks / Regards
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Re: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

[Beth G]

Hi,

If you find out the answer, I would like know this as well.

Thank you,

Beth

P. S. Sorry if this message came across twice

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> So, I’ve been a member of Bookshare since it started around 2002 or 2003. 
> I’ve downloaded probably thousands of books in this time. In the process of 
> doing so, the older format is not compatible with apps like VoiceDreamReader 
> on iOS or the book quality has since been replaced by a better 
> formatted/scanned version. That and I may have some books here and others 
> there. This and that backup on the cloud or external drive, etc.
> My question is… is there in fact a way to download my entire book history in 
> one shot or am I looking at a labor intensive task sifting through God knows 
> how many titles that stretch back over ten years?
> Would appreciate any info on whether this can be accomplished in a reasonable 
> manner.
> I’m a Windows user, but my main reading device is the iPhone these days. I 
> would ideally like to get everything on my PC first and then upload to the 
> iPhone.
>  
> Thanks,
> Cristobal
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Re: Accessing the menu from within a Kindle Book

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Kathy,

I'm using iOS 11 and the most recent version of the Kindle app. Double-tapping 
the screen brings up the menu. Have you tried restarting your phone, and 
removing the app from the app switcher and then running it again?

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 7, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
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> I am running IOS 11.0.2 and Kindle version 5.15.2 with VoiceOver on an iPhone 
> 6+.  Prior to updating to IOS 11, Double-tapping from within a Kindle book 
> would bring up the menu. Although VoiceOver still says double-tapping brings 
> up the menu, I find this gesture no longer works. I have tried both the 
> double-tap andthe split tap. Is anyone else having this problem? Thanks for 
> any help.
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
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Re: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

[Beth G]

Hi, if you figure this out, I would like to know the answer as well.

Thank you

Beth

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> On Oct 7, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
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> I don't think this is possible.
> 
>> On 10/7/2017 3:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I have no idea how this could be accomplished.  Have you contacted Bookshare 
>> yet?
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Cristóbal
>> Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 9:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Downloading entire Bookshare library at   once
>>  
>> Hello list,
>> So, I’ve been a member of Bookshare since it started around 2002 or 2003. 
>> I’ve downloaded probably thousands of books in this time. In the process of 
>> doing so, the older format is not compatible with apps like VoiceDreamReader 
>> on iOS or the book quality has since been replaced by a better 
>> formatted/scanned version. That and I may have some books here and others 
>> there. This and that backup on the cloud or external drive, etc.
>> My question is… is there in fact a way to download my entire book history in 
>> one shot or am I looking at a labor intensive task sifting through God knows 
>> how many titles that stretch back over ten years?
>> Would appreciate any info on whether this can be accomplished in a 
>> reasonable manner.
>> I’m a Windows user, but my main reading device is the iPhone these days. I 
>> would ideally like to get everything on my PC first and then upload to the 
>> iPhone.
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Cristobal
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RE: iPhone 8 with the messaging app.

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Interesting that I am seeing "Null", but I'm not deleting any messages.

What does seeing "Null" mean and is there a work around so that I can continue 
to scroll? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 8 with the messaging app.

 

Is it because you deleted messages using the rotor and then you have that blank 
space which Voiceover reads as “null”? It almost sounds like that because 
closing the app will fix this.

 

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Subject: iPhone 8 with the messaging app.

 

Hi: I'm experiencing a reoccurring problem in the messages app with the iPhone 
8. The app seems to lock and I can only scroll through certain messages (say 10 
or so); and can't get down through the older ones or up to the newer ones. So 
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Re: How to make a calendar entry using Siri .. more info

[Ann Byrne]

You can ask siri "What are my appointments for October", and she will 
tell you.  You can say, "change the date of my September 25th 
appointment to October 20th", and she will do it.  I believe she will 
also cancel an appointment.




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Hi all,
Occasionally I have tried to use Siri to make a calendar entry. 
Usually something messes up. I think there is a certain specific 
syntax you have to use, and then it works. I don't use it often 
enough to remember that syntax. Can someone please refresh my 
memory. It would be awfully nice if Siri could become smart enough 
not to need specific syntax in order to get a simple calendar entry 
correct. Maybe this has improved in iOS 11??



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Re: How to make a calendar entry using Siri

[Ann Byrne]

Siri wants a title, time and date.

I usually say: "Schedule an appointment, titled orthopedics, on 
October 11 at 8:30 AM."  Siri repeats what she thinks I said.  I can 
say 'change title' or "change time".  Siri asks if I want to schedule 
the appointment and I say Yes.  then if something is slightly wrong, 
or if I want to add additional notifications, I edit the entry.



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Hi all,
Occasionally I have tried to use Siri to make a calendar entry. 
Usually something messes up. I think there is a certain specific 
syntax you have to use, and then it works. I don't use it often 
enough to remember that syntax. Can someone please refresh my 
memory. It would be awfully nice if Siri could become smart enough 
not to need specific syntax in order to get a simple calendar entry 
correct. Maybe this has improved in iOS 11??



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RE: How to make a calendar entry using Siri

[Richard Turner]

Hi Mary,
There are several ways to do this, but the syntax I have settled on is to say:
"create an appointment titled Dr. Smith on November first at 10 AM."
Siri will repeat it and ask if you want it scheduled, say yes and you are done.

You can add the length of the appointment to by saying create a 90 minute 
appointment, and so on.
I hope that helps,
Richard


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Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to make a calendar entry using Siri

Hi all,
Occasionally I have tried to use Siri to make a calendar entry. Usually 
something messes up. I think there is a certain specific syntax you have to 
use, and then it works. I don't use it often enough to remember that syntax. 
Can someone please refresh my memory. It would be awfully nice if Siri could 
become smart enough not to need specific syntax in order to get a simple 
calendar entry correct. Maybe this has improved in iOS 11??


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Accessing the menu from within a Kindle Book

[Kathy Blackburn]

I am running IOS 11.0.2 and Kindle version 5.15.2 with VoiceOver on an iPhone 
6+.  Prior to updating to IOS 11, Double-tapping from within a Kindle book 
would bring up the menu. Although VoiceOver still says double-tapping brings up 
the menu, I find this gesture no longer works. I have tried both the double-tap 
andthe split tap. Is anyone else having this problem? Thanks for any help.

Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.com

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Voice dream reader update, I spoke too soon

[Mary Otten]

I saw that update yesterday and double tapped on update. I assumed it had 
updated. But there were problems yesterday off and on with the iTunes Store at 
Cetera, and I must've tried the update during one of those times. Because when 
I went into updates today, I saw a whole bunch of updates that I thought I had 
already done, including voice dream reader. So my report about no problems does 
not relate to yesterday's update. And given what was earlier reported, I am not 
updating. My history with this application is such that I am not taking a 
chance on it.
Mary


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Re: Iphone 8 VS 8+ or X

[Mary Otten]

I am 99.9% sure that this is incorrect. There is something else that's 
available only on the X, but it's not that. Optical image stabilization is even 
on the 7+. Could it be maybe only for the back camera? There's more to this 
than just saying it's not available.
Mary


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> On Oct 7, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> Actually optical image stabilization is only available on the iPhone X
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>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 2:36 PM, christopher hallsworth  
>> wrote:
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>> Hello, I think optical image stabilization is only available on the 8+, and 
>> to be honest I am very happy with my 6s for both sound quality and general 
>> usage. Enough said and good luck with your decision making.
>> 
>>> On 6 Oct 2017, at 06:53, Carl John de Campos  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I’m due for an upgrade soonand I’ve used my 6S 64 GB space gray for the 
>>> past two years.
>>> 
>>> I’m firstly considering the Iphone 8 vs the 8+, of which the better 
>>> reported battery life and larger screen work area (I also type a lot 
>>> onscreen), are cons for the +, but smaller pocket size and cheaper price 
>>> are cons for the 8.
>>> 
>>> I think the cameras are the same between the two so for youtube video 
>>> making and OCR work they should be identical, but I have the following 
>>> questions:
>>> 
>>> Do both 8 and 8+ have optical image stabilization?
>>> Do both 8 and 8+ have stereo speakers, and do you think they would sound 
>>> exactly the same (listening to audio books and youtube very important for 
>>> better sound on phone speakers)?
>>> And are there any other worth while mentioning differences between the two?
>>> 
>>> And lastly, I think the X would be everyone’s dream phone, but I already 
>>> hear production is low and they may not ship enough units by 5 Nov to U.S., 
>>> thus to South Africa will probably take another million years, plus cost, 
>>> at $1000 starting, by the time South Africa gets it it will cost 
>>> excessively more than the 8 and 8+.  Wondering if worth waiting vs the 
>>> price.
>>> 
>>> Do any of you have your 8 or 8+ yet, and what are your thoughts on the 
>>> phone speed, feel, speakers, battery, etc.
>>> 
>>> Thanks / Regards
>>> Carl de Campos
>>> SQL DBA
>>> Business Connection
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>>> E-mail:  carljdecam...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> “Check out my Youtube channel where I review Some Assistive Tech, interview 
>>> other blind achievers, trains, out-door and more to follow””
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How to make a calendar entry using Siri

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
Occasionally I have tried to use Siri to make a calendar entry. Usually 
something messes up. I think there is a certain specific syntax you have to 
use, and then it works. I don't use it often enough to remember that syntax. 
Can someone please refresh my memory. It would be awfully nice if Siri could 
become smart enough not to need specific syntax in order to get a simple 
calendar entry correct. Maybe this has improved in iOS 11??


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Re: Iphone 8 VS 8+ or X

[Maria Reyes]

Actually optical image stabilization is only available on the iPhone X

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> On Oct 6, 2017, at 2:36 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello, I think optical image stabilization is only available on the 8+, and 
> to be honest I am very happy with my 6s for both sound quality and general 
> usage. Enough said and good luck with your decision making.
> 
>> On 6 Oct 2017, at 06:53, Carl John de Campos  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’m due for an upgrade soonand I’ve used my 6S 64 GB space gray for the past 
>> two years.
>> 
>> I’m firstly considering the Iphone 8 vs the 8+, of which the better reported 
>> battery life and larger screen work area (I also type a lot onscreen), are 
>> cons for the +, but smaller pocket size and cheaper price are cons for the 8.
>> 
>> I think the cameras are the same between the two so for youtube video making 
>> and OCR work they should be identical, but I have the following questions:
>> 
>> Do both 8 and 8+ have optical image stabilization?
>> Do both 8 and 8+ have stereo speakers, and do you think they would sound 
>> exactly the same (listening to audio books and youtube very important for 
>> better sound on phone speakers)?
>> And are there any other worth while mentioning differences between the two?
>> 
>> And lastly, I think the X would be everyone’s dream phone, but I already 
>> hear production is low and they may not ship enough units by 5 Nov to U.S., 
>> thus to South Africa will probably take another million years, plus cost, at 
>> $1000 starting, by the time South Africa gets it it will cost excessively 
>> more than the 8 and 8+.  Wondering if worth waiting vs the price.
>> 
>> Do any of you have your 8 or 8+ yet, and what are your thoughts on the phone 
>> speed, feel, speakers, battery, etc.
>> 
>> Thanks / Regards
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Re: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

[Kelby Carlson]

I don't think this is possible.


On 10/7/2017 3:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


I have no idea how this could be accomplished.  Have you contacted 
Bookshare yet?


Richard

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*Subject:* Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

Hello list,

So, I’ve been a member of Bookshare since it started around 2002 or 
2003. I’ve downloaded probably thousands of books in this time. In the 
process of doing so, the older format is not compatible with apps like 
VoiceDreamReader on iOS or the book quality has since been replaced by 
a better formatted/scanned version. That and I may have some books 
here and others there. This and that backup on the cloud or external 
drive, etc.


My question is… is there in fact a way to download my entire book 
history in one shot or am I looking at a labor intensive task sifting 
through God knows how many titles that stretch back over ten years?


Would appreciate any info on whether this can be accomplished in a 
reasonable manner.


I’m a Windows user, but my main reading device is the iPhone these 
days. I would ideally like to get everything on my PC first and then 
upload to the iPhone.


Thanks,

Cristobal

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RE: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

[Richard Turner]

I have no idea how this could be accomplished.  Have you contacted Bookshare 
yet?

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
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Subject: Downloading entire Bookshare library at once

Hello list,
So, I’ve been a member of Bookshare since it started around 2002 or 2003. I’ve 
downloaded probably thousands of books in this time. In the process of doing 
so, the older format is not compatible with apps like VoiceDreamReader on iOS 
or the book quality has since been replaced by a better formatted/scanned 
version. That and I may have some books here and others there. This and that 
backup on the cloud or external drive, etc.
My question is… is there in fact a way to download my entire book history in 
one shot or am I looking at a labor intensive task sifting through God knows 
how many titles that stretch back over ten years?
Would appreciate any info on whether this can be accomplished in a reasonable 
manner.
I’m a Windows user, but my main reading device is the iPhone these days. I 
would ideally like to get everything on my PC first and then upload to the 
iPhone.

Thanks,
Cristobal
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Re: Instacart is driving me crazy!

[Julie Dawson]

Under each item you add when you dt there is an add to favorites option. 
When you dt on that in goes into the "my items area. so that you can find it 
easily when you search for it again when making a new  shopping cart. I 
don't use the lists much but have found Instacart wonderful and easy to use.

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Subject: Instacart is driving me crazy!



Hello everyone,


Instacart is going to cause me to pull my hair out!

By any chance, could someone please help me?


First of all, I haven't used the App in probably 4 months. I even
removed it from my phone, until today.

Now I need to use it again today. And I feel from now on I will just
leave the App on my phone.


So anyway, I signed in with what I thought was my sign in information.

However, I will admit, I couldn't remember it for certain.


But it seemed as though it recognized me, because it showed me the items
I last ordered.


So I went about ordering stuff. But I couldn't remember how to add stuff
to my cart. So instead I made a list, and just decided to add that to
the list, once I was done.


But then it turned in to a huge mess. I kept seeing buttons for log-in,
or log in with existing account. I even saw an area to enter your zip 
code.



Well nothing would work for me. Nothing happened when I attempted to use
either log-in option. Also, I couldn't enter a zip code, it wouldn't let 
me.



So I called a good friend of mine who uses the App regularly. He
refreshed my memory on how to add stuff to the cart.

Then he went through his App, and he told me if I went to the my items
area, I should see what I last ordered. But that I should also see my
list. I think it was it's own separate option.

However, I can't find that list anywhere. I am frurstrated, because it
took me a while to make the list.


What do I do?

Where do I start with my issues?

Any help would be so great!


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: iPhone 8 with the messaging app.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Is it because you deleted messages using the rotor and then you have that blank 
space which Voiceover reads as “null”? It almost sounds like that because 
closing the app will fix this.

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Subject: iPhone 8 with the messaging app.

Hi: I'm experiencing a reoccurring problem in the messages app with the iPhone 
8. The app seems to lock and I can only scroll through certain messages (say 10 
or so); and can't get down through the older ones or up to the newer ones. So 
what I have to do is go to the app switcher and close the messages app, then it 
is fine.
Is anyone experiencing this problem, and is there a solution?
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This is not my day to get anything to work. Lift issues

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


So I am trying to get Lift set up on my phone.

I got to the point where I am supposed to enter a code, that I received 
in a text message.

However, I can't enter the code. There seems to be no box. So what the 
heck am I supposed to do?

I've tapped on different areas, thinking a box would come up. Nothing 
happens. I even tried using the phone keypad, and not my bluetooth 
keyboard. But that didn't seem to make a difference.


What the heck could be going on?

Does anyone have any ideas?

I don't really want to sign up with my Facebook. I just haven't ever 
been a big fan of that.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: More problems with voice dream reader

[Nancy Badger]

Hello,
My husband is having the exact same problem. He is re-installing it. I will let 
you know if it works.
Nancy

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> On Oct 7, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Dana Leet  wrote:
> 
>  Hello everyone. Many of you knew, that I had a problem with the voice dream 
> reader library, and then was able to do iCloud back up to restore everything. 
> Now today, the latest update a voice dream reader, allows me to read for 
> about 15 to 20 seconds, and then completely closes out and it is very very 
> sluggish when I am swiping right and left going through my books and just 
> wants to close whenever it feels like it just curious if others are having 
> problems with this app
> 
>  If you love to read   
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Guitar Tab Reader

[Kelby Carlson]

Is there any app that can have Voiceover read guitar tabs?



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Re: More problems with voice dream reader

[Lois Butterfield]

I have had no problems with VDR since the update.  I only have about 15 books 
at a time in the app though, not a huge library.

Take care,
Lois

From: Greg Wocher 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: More problems with voice dream reader

Hello, 
I am not seeing this issue. It seems to be working just fine on my iPhone 7plus 
running iOS11. 

Regards,
Greg Wocher



  On Oct 7, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Dana Leet  wrote:

  Hello everyone. Many of you knew, that I had a problem with the voice dream 
reader library, and then was able to do iCloud back up to restore everything. 
Now today, the latest update a voice dream reader, allows me to read for about 
15 to 20 seconds, and then completely closes out and it is very very sluggish 
when I am swiping right and left going through my books and just wants to close 
whenever it feels like it just curious if others are having problems with this 
app


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Instacart is driving me crazy!

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


Instacart is going to cause me to pull my hair out!

By any chance, could someone please help me?


First of all, I haven't used the App in probably 4 months. I even 
removed it from my phone, until today.

Now I need to use it again today. And I feel from now on I will just 
leave the App on my phone.


So anyway, I signed in with what I thought was my sign in information.

However, I will admit, I couldn't remember it for certain.


But it seemed as though it recognized me, because it showed me the items 
I last ordered.


So I went about ordering stuff. But I couldn't remember how to add stuff 
to my cart. So instead I made a list, and just decided to add that to 
the list, once I was done.


But then it turned in to a huge mess. I kept seeing buttons for log-in, 
or log in with existing account. I even saw an area to enter your zip code.


Well nothing would work for me. Nothing happened when I attempted to use 
either log-in option. Also, I couldn't enter a zip code, it wouldn't let me.


So I called a good friend of mine who uses the App regularly. He 
refreshed my memory on how to add stuff to the cart.

Then he went through his App, and he told me if I went to the my items 
area, I should see what I last ordered. But that I should also see my 
list. I think it was it's own separate option.

However, I can't find that list anywhere. I am frurstrated, because it 
took me a while to make the list.


What do I do?

Where do I start with my issues?

Any help would be so great!


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

[Mohammad Aurangzaib]

Ent">



On Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 8:57:36 AM UTC-4, Terri Stimmel wrote:
>
> Hello all, 
>
>
> I know there have been many questions on this list, regarding both of 
> these services. Unfortunately, I didn't keep up with the threads, 
> because I don't travel alone. Just a personal choice. 
>
> However, now I have some questions about both services. 
>
>
> First of all, is there a difference in the services? 
>
> Is 1 better over the other? I know that will be opinion. But sometimes 
> there isn't anything wrong with this. 
>
>
> Is 1 App easier to use than the other? 
>
> Now if I set up 1 of these Apps on my phone, do you always have to pay 
> with a card? 
>
> And if the App is on my phone, can I send an Uber, or Lift driver to 
> maybe pick a friend up, as long as the charges are set to my card? 
>
> Also, will you know ahead of time how much a trip might cost? 
>
> What does each App go by, when it comes to pricing? 
>
>
> Any help with any of this would be much appreciated. 
>
>
> Thank you, 
>
>
> Terri 
>
>

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Re: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

[Marie]

I use Uber here in Reno with great success and I have to question the 
treatment of their drivers. I have asked almost every driver if they have 
any problems with Uber and they say "No". And I tend to wonder if some of 
these rumors come from the taxi services who want Uber and Lift gone because 
of the competition. The services have certainly taken business away from 
them with good reason. Here, the Reno taxis are not as clean, and the prices 
are exorbitant so I don't use them but use Uber instead as many others do.
I live outside the ADA area so can not always depend on Para transit so Uber 
has made it so much easier for me to get around independently.

Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 7:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

The apps themselves are of course free, whether one service is better than 
another may depend on your city. In some places the same drivers may drive 
for Lift and Uber.
Here in Canada Uber is only available in a few of the larger cities and I 
have used it in Calgary and the drivers were always very good, but at one 
point we went from our hotel to a mall using Uber and then going back we 
used a regular taxi, both times it was in the late afternoon/early evening 
when things were quite busy and the distance was not very far, maybe 2 or 3 
Km. In that example Ueber was more expensive because of their surcharge 
during times when there is high demand and of course there is all the bad 
press Uber has been getting because of how they are treating their 
employees, their drivers and some of the practices they have employeed which 
are unethical to say the least. They are suffering because of this right now 
with London having revoked their license and I think there is a chance they 
are getting kicked out of Quebec. Vancouver on the other hand is apparently 
going to start letting Uber come in this fall, at least that was the plan.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Terri Stimmel

Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 5:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

Hello all,


I know there have been many questions on this list, regarding both of these 
services. Unfortunately, I didn't keep up with the threads, because I don't 
travel alone. Just a personal choice.


However, now I have some questions about both services.


First of all, is there a difference in the services?

Is 1 better over the other? I know that will be opinion. But sometimes there 
isn't anything wrong with this.



Is 1 App easier to use than the other?

Now if I set up 1 of these Apps on my phone, do you always have to pay
with a card?

And if the App is on my phone, can I send an Uber, or Lift driver to
maybe pick a friend up, as long as the charges are set to my card?

Also, will you know ahead of time how much a trip might cost?

What does each App go by, when it comes to pricing?


Any help with any of this would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Marie]

I also have an issue with the ringtones with IOS 11 and my IPhone 7. But my 
problem is that after any kind of update, the special  ringtones I set for 
certain contacts reverts back to the old default ringtone,"Opening" 
Thankfully there are only a handful of contact to which I have assigned 
ringtones, but it is annoying to have to reset them each time.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Liz Ulrich and LD Hope

Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com
Subject: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

I am having an issue with the ringtone on my iPhone 7-plus since updating to 
IOS--11. When I receive a call from any one who I have not assigned a 
ringtone to, the default tone happens. I tried to change my tone to one that 
I have purchased, and the tone shows up as changed, but the old default tone 
is still ringing. I changed it in settings and in my contacts, but it does 
not work. Am I missing something?



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Re: More problems with voice dream reader

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
I am not seeing this issue. It seems to be working just fine on my iPhone 7plus 
running iOS11. 

Regards,
Greg Wocher

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Dana Leet  wrote:
> 
>  Hello everyone. Many of you knew, that I had a problem with the voice dream 
> reader library, and then was able to do iCloud back up to restore everything. 
> Now today, the latest update a voice dream reader, allows me to read for 
> about 15 to 20 seconds, and then completely closes out and it is very very 
> sluggish when I am swiping right and left going through my books and just 
> wants to close whenever it feels like it just curious if others are having 
> problems with this app
> 
>  If you love to read   
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Re: More problems with voice dream reader

[Mary Otten]

No, this time, at least thus far on my iPhone 7 Plus still running iOS 10, I'm 
not having a problem with the latest update.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 9:58 AM, Dana Leet  wrote:
> 
>  Hello everyone. Many of you knew, that I had a problem with the voice dream 
> reader library, and then was able to do iCloud back up to restore everything. 
> Now today, the latest update a voice dream reader, allows me to read for 
> about 15 to 20 seconds, and then completely closes out and it is very very 
> sluggish when I am swiping right and left going through my books and just 
> wants to close whenever it feels like it just curious if others are having 
> problems with this app
> 
>  If you love to read   
> ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: 
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More problems with voice dream reader

[Dana Leet]

 Hello everyone. Many of you knew, that I had a problem with the voice dream 
reader library, and then was able to do iCloud back up to restore everything. 
Now today, the latest update a voice dream reader, allows me to read for about 
15 to 20 seconds, and then completely closes out and it is very very sluggish 
when I am swiping right and left going through my books and just wants to close 
whenever it feels like it just curious if others are having problems with this 
app

 If you love to read   
‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: 
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Re: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Simon Wong]

To change your ringtone!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
> 
> Sighted help to do what?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 9:26 AM
> To: Blind iPhone MailingList
> Subject: Re: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.
> 
> Hi Amy & Sieghard & Amy;
> 
> The only way I found around this situation is to turn Voiceover off and get 
> sighted help.
> 
> God Bless
> Anthony
> 
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
>> 
>> I have done all of that and more. 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 8:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.
>> 
>> Did you change it in Settings > Sounds > Ringtone? Also, have you closed all 
>> apps and done a reboot to see what happens after your phone restarts?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Liz Ulrich and LD Hope
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 4:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups. com 
>> Subject: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.
>> 
>> I am having an issue with the ringtone on my iPhone 7-plus since updating to 
>> IOS--11. When I receive a call from any one who I have not assigned a 
>> ringtone to, the default tone happens. I tried to change my tone to one that 
>> I have purchased, and the tone shows up as changed, but the old default tone 
>> is still ringing. I changed it in settings and in my contacts, but it does 
>> not work. Am I missing something?  
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope 
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RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Amy Ruel]

Sighted help to do what?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 9:26 AM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList
Subject: Re: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

Hi Amy & Sieghard & Amy;

The only way I found around this situation is to turn Voiceover off and get 
sighted help.

God Bless
Anthony


> On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
> 
> I have done all of that and more. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 8:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.
> 
> Did you change it in Settings > Sounds > Ringtone? Also, have you closed all 
> apps and done a reboot to see what happens after your phone restarts?
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> Liz Ulrich and LD Hope
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 4:30 PM
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> Subject: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.
> 
> I am having an issue with the ringtone on my iPhone 7-plus since updating to 
> IOS--11. When I receive a call from any one who I have not assigned a 
> ringtone to, the default tone happens. I tried to change my tone to one that 
> I have purchased, and the tone shows up as changed, but the old default tone 
> is still ringing. I changed it in settings and in my contacts, but it does 
> not work. Am I missing something?  
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
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RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Amy Ruel]

Hi,
Glad you got it straightened out. I tried this but it did not work on my end.
Amy


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Subject: RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

I did fix the problem.  What I ended up doing was going in to settings, 
general, reset, and reset network.  Once the network settings were reset and 
the phone was rebooted, everything worked just fine.  It has been said that 
before you install an update to IOS on the phone that you should reset network 
settings first.  I never had problems before, so I did not do this, but I will 
do this for now on.  You will have to reenter your Wifi information, but things 
will work better.  

Liz Ulrich
and LD Hope



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The DirectTVNow App.

[Liz Ulrich and LD Hope]

I signed up for DirectTVNow and I installed the app. Every time I double tap on 
a show, it does not play. Has any one had any success using this App, and if 
so, any tips will be appreciated. 


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RE: Apple wireless EarPods

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

I tried them a few weeks ago and there was no lag time. I sent them back 
because they did not fit firmly in my ears. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: Apple wireless EarPods

 

I wear them almost the entire day and, I have no lag problems at all.

 

 





On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Michael Maslo  > wrote:

 

Hello List, I was wondering for those who use the Apple wireless EarPods, how 
is typing using them? I know that using Bluetooth and typing on a virtual 
keyboard is sluggish at best. Any input is greatly appreciated.

 

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iPhone 8 with the messaging app.

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Hi: I'm experiencing a reoccurring problem in the messages app with the
iPhone 8. The app seems to lock and I can only scroll through certain
messages (say 10 or so); and can't get down through the older ones or up to
the newer ones. So what I have to do is go to the app switcher and close the
messages app, then it is fine.

Is anyone experiencing this problem, and is there a solution?

Thanks.  

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RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Liz and LD Hope]

I did fix the problem.  What I ended up doing was going in to settings,
general, reset, and reset network.  Once the network settings were reset and
the phone was rebooted, everything worked just fine.  It has been said that
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but I will do this for now on.  You will have to reenter your Wifi
information, but things will work better.  

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and LD Hope



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a Uber Ap question

[Michael Amaro]

Hello Listers,

I have a Uber Ap question.  I am running the latest iOS on an iPhone sE.  My 
question is as follows:

how do you go about saving and deleting destination's from with in the Uber Ap 
it self?

Thanks

Michael

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Re: appear offline in facebook

[Donna]

Open the Messenger app. Tap on people at the bottom. Swipe down to active. Your 
name will appear first & is selected On. Tap on your name to set being offline. 

Donna
> 
> Hi,
> How do you get it to show off-line in messenger no matter what whether you 
> are on the app or on the mobile Facebook site on a PC
> Jen
> 
> On Oct 6, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
>> It is my understanding that if Messenger is set to show that you are offline 
>> that you will not show up as online using Facebook, because Messenger & 
>> Facebook are linked together. If I'm wrong someone please correct me. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> Hi folks
>>>  
>>> Is there a way to appear offline when using  m.facebook.com on an idevice 
>>> or pc or mac? I know you can do so in messenger and I know how to handle it 
>>> but every time I go on m.facebook.com I appear online.
>>> Regards
>>> Davy
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RE: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The apps themselves are of course free, whether one service is better than 
another may depend on your city. In some places the same drivers may drive for 
Lift and Uber.
Here in Canada Uber is only available in a few of the larger cities and I have 
used it in Calgary and the drivers were always very good, but at one point we 
went from our hotel to a mall using Uber and then going back we used a regular 
taxi, both times it was in the late afternoon/early evening when things were 
quite busy and the distance was not very far, maybe 2 or 3 Km. In that example 
Ueber was more expensive because of their surcharge during times when there is 
high demand and of course there is all the bad press Uber has been getting 
because of how they are treating their employees, their drivers and some of the 
practices they have employeed which are unethical to say the least. They are 
suffering because of this right now with London having revoked their license 
and I think there is a chance they are getting kicked out of Quebec. Vancouver 
on the other hand is apparently going to start letting Uber come in this fall, 
at least that was the plan.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 5:58 AM
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Subject: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

Hello all,


I know there have been many questions on this list, regarding both of these 
services. Unfortunately, I didn't keep up with the threads, because I don't 
travel alone. Just a personal choice.

However, now I have some questions about both services.


First of all, is there a difference in the services?

Is 1 better over the other? I know that will be opinion. But sometimes there 
isn't anything wrong with this.


Is 1 App easier to use than the other?

Now if I set up 1 of these Apps on my phone, do you always have to pay 
with a card?

And if the App is on my phone, can I send an Uber, or Lift driver to 
maybe pick a friend up, as long as the charges are set to my card?

Also, will you know ahead of time how much a trip might cost?

What does each App go by, when it comes to pricing?


Any help with any of this would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Any Tv guide apps

[Gordon]

I use the tv guide mobile app which is very good and simple to use and 
set up. there's also tv listings by tv 24 which is good too.



On 10/7/2017 9:04 AM, Lelia wrote:


Hi all, So our tv finally works and we don’t have cable so all I want 
is a simple tv guide app to let me know what’s on my local channels 
please.


Also, since I know we’re not supposed to send thank you messages I 
will say thank you in advance.


Lelia

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RE: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon Wong
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 6:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

Do we get lift here in canada? does anyone know?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terri;
> 
> I have no problems with either app.
> 
> Once in a while I receive promotions from Lyft for 10 per cent off 
> rides between 9 a M to 5 PM with Lyft.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> 
>> I know there have been many questions on this list, regarding both of 
>> these services. Unfortunately, I didn't keep up with the threads, 
>> because I don't travel alone. Just a personal choice.
>> 
>> However, now I have some questions about both services.
>> 
>> 
>> First of all, is there a difference in the services?
>> 
>> Is 1 better over the other? I know that will be opinion. But 
>> sometimes there isn't anything wrong with this.
>> 
>> 
>> Is 1 App easier to use than the other?
>> 
>> Now if I set up 1 of these Apps on my phone, do you always have to 
>> pay with a card?
>> 
>> And if the App is on my phone, can I send an Uber, or Lift driver to 
>> maybe pick a friend up, as long as the charges are set to my card?
>> 
>> Also, will you know ahead of time how much a trip might cost?
>> 
>> What does each App go by, when it comes to pricing?
>> 
>> 
>> Any help with any of this would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
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Any Tv guide apps

[Lelia]

Hi all, So our tv finally works and we don't have cable so all I want is a
simple tv guide app to let me know what's on my local channels please.

 

Also, since I know we're not supposed to send thank you messages I will say
thank you in advance.

 

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RE: Apple wireless EarPods

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You won’t notice any lag with bluetooth keyboards, it’s when you use the 
onscreen keyboards where bluetooth earpieces show their limitations. I know 
some of you say it doesn’t exist with your Voyager Edge or your Airpods or 
whatever other fancy headset or earpiece you have, but I have tried many over 
the years, I have a Voyager Edge and while the lag is not horrible, it’s 
noticeable. I tried Airpods at an Apple Store with the same result, it’s just 
the nature of the beast. Maybe when Apple releases new Airpods next year with 
Bluetooth 5.0 support and a new W2 chip they finally get past that. Until then 
one other observation I have made is that just because a headset or speaker is 
new and uses a higher version of Bluetooth such as 4.0, 4.1 or 4.2 that does 
not automatically mean it has less lag than say a Bluetooth 2.1 or Bluetooth 
3.0 device. I experienced this first hand when I bought a quite expensive 
Plantronics stereo headset which had Bluetooth 4.0 and the lag was so bad that 
I returned it because it was impossible to use it with Voiceover.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2017 6:27 AM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: Apple wireless EarPods

I wear them almost the entire day and, I have no lag problems at all.




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Hello List, I was wondering for those who use the Apple wireless EarPods, how 
is typing using them? I know that using Bluetooth and typing on a virtual 
keyboard is sluggish at best. Any input is greatly appreciated.

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RE: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi Teri, 

I recently started using Lyft and like it a lot. I have only had one friver 
that I rated less than 5 stars. She received that rating based on poor 
navigation skills. She had to make one right turn and drive for 1.5 miles 
straight to get to my house. With GPS, she got lost. 

Lyft will allow their drivers to accept their tips in cash. As far as paying 
the fare, yes, it must be paid through a card. 

You can schedule and pay for a ride for a friend on your phone. 

Both apps are pretty easy to use. You can put in the pick up and drop-off 
locations and then get an estimate. A car will not be sent unless you 
specifically tap on the button that says "request ride." I was afraid I was 
going to have a car sent when I was getting pricing info. Just be sure to not 
press "request ride" unless you really want a ride. 

I may be wrong about this fact. I thought that I read the background check for 
Lyft drivers is a little more extensive than for Uber. I asked two different 
drivers. Both said the background check with Lyft was more extensive. Again, 
not positive this is the case.

HTH 

Lynda  
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

Hello all,


I know there have been many questions on this list, regarding both of these 
services. Unfortunately, I didn't keep up with the threads, because I don't 
travel alone. Just a personal choice.

However, now I have some questions about both services.


First of all, is there a difference in the services?

Is 1 better over the other? I know that will be opinion. But sometimes there 
isn't anything wrong with this.


Is 1 App easier to use than the other?

Now if I set up 1 of these Apps on my phone, do you always have to pay 
with a card?

And if the App is on my phone, can I send an Uber, or Lift driver to 
maybe pick a friend up, as long as the charges are set to my card?

Also, will you know ahead of time how much a trip might cost?

What does each App go by, when it comes to pricing?


Any help with any of this would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Apple wireless EarPods

[Anthony Vece]

I wear them almost the entire day and, I have no lag problems at all.



> On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Michael Maslo  wrote:
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Re: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

[Simon Wong]

Do we get lift here in canada? does anyone know?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terri;
> 
> I have no problems with either app.
> 
> Once in a while I receive promotions from Lyft for 10 per cent off rides 
> between 9 a
> M to 5 PM with Lyft.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> 
>> I know there have been many questions on this list, regarding both of 
>> these services. Unfortunately, I didn't keep up with the threads, 
>> because I don't travel alone. Just a personal choice.
>> 
>> However, now I have some questions about both services.
>> 
>> 
>> First of all, is there a difference in the services?
>> 
>> Is 1 better over the other? I know that will be opinion. But sometimes 
>> there isn't anything wrong with this.
>> 
>> 
>> Is 1 App easier to use than the other?
>> 
>> Now if I set up 1 of these Apps on my phone, do you always have to pay 
>> with a card?
>> 
>> And if the App is on my phone, can I send an Uber, or Lift driver to 
>> maybe pick a friend up, as long as the charges are set to my card?
>> 
>> Also, will you know ahead of time how much a trip might cost?
>> 
>> What does each App go by, when it comes to pricing?
>> 
>> 
>> Any help with any of this would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
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Re: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Amy & Sieghard & Amy;

The only way I found around this situation is to turn Voiceover off and get 
sighted help.

God Bless
Anthony


> On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
> 
> I have done all of that and more. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 8:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.
> 
> Did you change it in Settings > Sounds > Ringtone? Also, have you closed all 
> apps and done a reboot to see what happens after your phone restarts?
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Liz Ulrich and LD Hope
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups. com 
> Subject: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.
> 
> I am having an issue with the ringtone on my iPhone 7-plus since updating to 
> IOS--11. When I receive a call from any one who I have not assigned a 
> ringtone to, the default tone happens. I tried to change my tone to one that 
> I have purchased, and the tone shows up as changed, but the old default tone 
> is still ringing. I changed it in settings and in my contacts, but it does 
> not work. Am I missing something?  
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope 
> HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
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Re: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Terri;

I have no problems with either app.

Once in a while I receive promotions from Lyft for 10 per cent off rides 
between 9 a
M to 5 PM with Lyft.


> On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> 
> I know there have been many questions on this list, regarding both of 
> these services. Unfortunately, I didn't keep up with the threads, 
> because I don't travel alone. Just a personal choice.
> 
> However, now I have some questions about both services.
> 
> 
> First of all, is there a difference in the services?
> 
> Is 1 better over the other? I know that will be opinion. But sometimes 
> there isn't anything wrong with this.
> 
> 
> Is 1 App easier to use than the other?
> 
> Now if I set up 1 of these Apps on my phone, do you always have to pay 
> with a card?
> 
> And if the App is on my phone, can I send an Uber, or Lift driver to 
> maybe pick a friend up, as long as the charges are set to my card?
> 
> Also, will you know ahead of time how much a trip might cost?
> 
> What does each App go by, when it comes to pricing?
> 
> 
> Any help with any of this would be much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: Apple wireless EarPods

[Anthony Vece]

I have no problem typing.



> On Oct 7, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> I don't experience any sluggishness with my Microsoft Universal Mobile 
> keyboard while typing. This is the case even while using airpods or my Trekz 
> Titaniums. However, I do own a couple of older Bluetooth speakers which are 
> very sluggish to the point of being useless if using Voiceover. You should be 
> in good shape presuming you're using reasonably modern equipment. I type 
> around 90 words per minute. Currently, there is a nasty problem with Braille 
> displays when using iOS11. Hopefully, that will be fixed in the upcoming 
> iOS11.1 update. 
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> keyboard is sluggish at best. Any input is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Apple wireless EarPods

[Michael Feir]

I don't experience any sluggishness with my Microsoft Universal Mobile
keyboard while typing. This is the case even while using airpods or my
Trekz Titaniums. However, I do own a couple of older Bluetooth speakers
which are very sluggish to the point of being useless if using Voiceover.
You should be in good shape presuming you're using reasonably modern
equipment. I type around 90 words per minute. Currently, there is a nasty
problem with Braille displays when using iOS11. Hopefully, that will be
fixed in the upcoming iOS11.1 update.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 8:27 AM Michael Maslo 
wrote:

> Hello List, I was wondering for those who use the Apple wireless EarPods,
> how is typing using them? I know that using Bluetooth and typing on a
> virtual keyboard is sluggish at best. Any input is greatly appreciated.
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2015
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www.peelmc.ca
2014

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Meadowvale Community Christian Reformed Church
www.meadowvalecrc.ca
2013--2014

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http://www.thedam.org
2011-2013
Author of Personal Power:
How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People
2006-2008
http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2009/01/personal-power.html

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Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello all,


I know there have been many questions on this list, regarding both of 
these services. Unfortunately, I didn't keep up with the threads, 
because I don't travel alone. Just a personal choice.

However, now I have some questions about both services.


First of all, is there a difference in the services?

Is 1 better over the other? I know that will be opinion. But sometimes 
there isn't anything wrong with this.


Is 1 App easier to use than the other?

Now if I set up 1 of these Apps on my phone, do you always have to pay 
with a card?

And if the App is on my phone, can I send an Uber, or Lift driver to 
maybe pick a friend up, as long as the charges are set to my card?

Also, will you know ahead of time how much a trip might cost?

What does each App go by, when it comes to pricing?


Any help with any of this would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Amy Ruel]

I have done all of that and more. 


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Sieghard Weitzel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

Did you change it in Settings > Sounds > Ringtone? Also, have you closed all 
apps and done a reboot to see what happens after your phone restarts?

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

I am having an issue with the ringtone on my iPhone 7-plus since updating to 
IOS--11. When I receive a call from any one who I have not assigned a ringtone 
to, the default tone happens. I tried to change my tone to one that I have 
purchased, and the tone shows up as changed, but the old default tone is still 
ringing. I changed it in settings and in my contacts, but it does not work. Am 
I missing something?  


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RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Amy Ruel]

Hello,
I have the same problem. I have contacted Apple and they say their engineers 
are working on it, but I haven't heard anything in 2 weeks.
Amy


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Subject: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

I am having an issue with the ringtone on my iPhone 7-plus since updating to 
IOS--11. When I receive a call from any one who I have not assigned a ringtone 
to, the default tone happens. I tried to change my tone to one that I have 
purchased, and the tone shows up as changed, but the old default tone is still 
ringing. I changed it in settings and in my contacts, but it does not work. Am 
I missing something?  


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Apple wireless EarPods

[Michael Maslo]

 
 

 Hello List, I was wondering for those who use the Apple wireless EarPods, how 
is typing using them? I know that using Bluetooth and typing on a virtual 
keyboard is sluggish at best. Any input is greatly appreciated.
 

 
 

 
 

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Re: messenger in facebook

[Jen .]

Hi try removing messenger and reinstalling.  I did this and it fixed my problem 
when this happened to me.
Jen

On Oct 7, 2017, at 4:52 AM, Carol Adams 
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Hi, I’ve had this problem quite a lot actually and I’ve had to literally start 
a new message and delete the one I’m trying to do before it will let me type 
something I think it must be a bug, Carol

Sent from my iPhone

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Hi Guys and Guyesses, just wondering if anybody else keeps getting chucked out 
of messenger when in facebook or just using messenger itself.  It has been fine 
until yesterday so don’t know what’s happening.  Janet

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Re: messenger in facebook

[Carol Adams]

Hi, I’ve had this problem quite a lot actually and I’ve had to literally start 
a new message and delete the one I’m trying to do before it will let me type 
something I think it must be a bug, Carol

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> out of messenger when in facebook or just using messenger itself.  It has 
> been fine until yesterday so don’t know what’s happening.  Janet
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Re: appear offline in facebook

[Jen .]

Hi,
How do you get it to show off-line in messenger no matter what whether you are 
on the app or on the mobile Facebook site on a PC
Jen

On Oct 6, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Donna 
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It is my understanding that if Messenger is set to show that you are offline 
that you will not show up as online using Facebook, because Messenger & 
Facebook are linked together. If I'm wrong someone please correct me.

Donna

Hi folks

Is there a way to appear offline when using 
m.facebook.com on an idevice or pc or mac? I know you 
can do so in messenger and I know how to handle it but every time I go on 
m.facebook.com I appear online.
Regards
Davy

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System sounds gone

[Harry Bell]

I just used dictation to send an email but now all my system so have 
disappeared and I have new bush sound when sending emails, new people, new 
click when screen is locked. Is there a solution to this? Thanks. Karen

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Apple's tricky iOS 11 photo tech gets a helping hand - CNET

[M. Taylor]

CNET News - Friday, October 6, 2017 at 5:57 AM
Apple's tricky iOS 11 photo tech gets a helping hand - CNET
Apple's new phone software means your photos take up half the space they
used to, and that's great. But it also can bring some complications. 
Good news: New tools are emerging to help you avoid the hassles -- and to
take better advantage of the change.
The new photo compression technology comes with the HEIC image format Apple
built into iOS 11, the iPhone and iPad software that arrived in September.
HEIC is a version of technology called HEIF -- High Efficiency Image Format
-- that needs less storage space than the decades-old JPEG format. It throws
other photography advancements into the bargain, too, to help with things
like Apple's portrait mode.
 
The Half app lets you convert your iPhone's JPEGs into smaller HEIC files,
then delete the JPEGs.
Screenshot by Stephen Shankland/CNET 
Apple was careful to add safeguards that prevent HEIC compatibility problems
and to warn app developers to take similar precautions. For the most part,
HEIC images are in effect an internal format that gets converted into JPEG
when it's time to post a photo to Facebook or email it to your cousin.
The trouble comes when HEIC images leak out of their protective Apple
confines, as, for example, when you're experimenting with the format. You
can't display an HEIC image on incompatible devices like Windows laptops,
Android phones or Macs that don't run the latest MacOS software. It's tough
moving beyond file formats as entrenched and useful as JPEG -- but that's
where the new utilities come into play.
HEIF and HEIC exemplify the pitfalls of progress in the computing industry.
You often can't benefit from shiny new tech until it's widely adopted  --
think of owning the first fax machine or a Mac with USB-C ports that don't
work with old peripherals. But technology companies are scared to embrace a
new technology until they're convinced wide adoption will happen.
That kind of chicken-and-egg problem has hurt other image standards, like
Microsoft's JPEG XR and Google's WebP.
Smoothing the way
Happily, there are tools that make HEIC's arrival easier to manage, whether
that's avoiding its pains or embracing its benefits.
Free online tools let you convert HEIC images into JPEG if you're stuck with
one you can't handle. Vietnamese developer Tran Dang Khoa added an HEIC
converter alongside many other conversion tools. And Beamr, maker of the
JPEGmini software for optimizing photo and video file sizes, added its own
online HEIC-to-JPEG converter that can handle up to 30 photos at a time. If
you want to convert HEIC photos on your Windows or Mac PC, the free iMazing
app can help you there.
These cropped-in views of a larger image show how HEIF, left, offers richer
colors and fewer speckly artifacts near high-contrast borders compared to a
JPEG of about the same size.
Nokia 
But what if you want to go the other way, shrinking your JPEGs into HEIC
photos? For that, a $3 iOS app called Half for iOS devices can help. Half
also sells a $5 version for Macs. The unrelated HEIF Utility gives Windows
users a conversion option, too.
With Half, you tell the app which photos to shrink and it'll tell you how
much smaller the HEIC version is and ask whether you want to delete the
original JPEG. A batch mode to convert photos en masse is on the way, said
developer Christina Statescu, as is a tool to shrink videos into HEIC's
close relative, HEVC.
File-sync fixes
The obvious way HEIC photos could leak out is with file-sync apps like
Dropbox, Microsoft OneDrive and Google Drive. Fortunately, the companies
behind those tools have you covered.
Dropbox can automatically ingest your photos, but on iOS by default it
converts HEIC files to JPEG. If you want to keep the HEIC images, open the
Dropbox app, tap the "recents" tab at the bottom left, tap the settings gear
icon on the upper right, tap "camera uploads" and change "save HEIC photos"
to HEIC.
 
iMazing's converter can help if you're stuck with an HEIC image you need to
change to JPEG.
iMazing 
Microsoft OneDrive also converts to JPEG. "This puts a user's photos in the
most compatible format and will allow them to view their photos on OneDrive
mobile apps, OneDrive.com, and in Windows 10," Microsoft said in a
statement. If you don't like it, you can disable automatic conversion by
opening settings, tapping on "advanced," then turning off the "Upload Most
Compatible" feature.
The PhotoSync app, which synchronizes photos across your devices and
photo-sharing services like Flickr and 500px, also converts HEIC into JPEG. 
Google Drive leaves HEIC files as HEIC, but the app now can view them on iOS
and Android and through the drive.google.com website.
Apple settings
If you're running iOS 10 or earlier or have an older iPhone, you won't get
an option to save HEIC images in the first place. But if you're using a
newer phone, you can enable it through the iOS settings app. Scroll down to
"Camera," tap 

The iPhone Didn't Emerge From Nothing. Here's What Came Before It

[M. Taylor]

On January 9, 2007, Steve Jobs stood on the MacWorld stage in his jeans and
a black turtleneck. "Every once in a while, a revolutionary product comes
along that changes everything," he declared. "Today, Apple is going to
reinvent the phone."
The Runaway Species: How Human Creativity Remakes the World, by Anthony
Brandt & David Eagleman
catapult

Even after years of speculation, the iPhone was a revelation. No one had
seen anything like it: here was a communication device, music player, and
personal computer that you could hold in the palm of your hand. The media
hailed it as trailblazing, almost magical.

Bloggers called it the "Jesus phone." The introduction of the iPhone was
characteristic of great innovations: they come at us unexpectedly, with
novelty that seems to have come from nowhere.

But, despite appearances, innovations don't come from nowhere. They are the
latest branches on the family tree of invention. Research scientist Bill
Buxton has curated a collection of technological devices for decades, and he
can lay out the long genealogy of DNA that has forged a path to our modern
gadgets. Consider the Casio AT-550-7 wristwatch from 1984: it featured a
touchscreen that allowed the user to finger-swipe digits directly onto the
watch face.

Ten years later-and still thirteen years before the iPhone-IBM added a
touchscreen to a mobile phone.

The Simon was the world's first smart phone: it used a stylus and had a
collection of basic apps. It was able to send and receive faxes and emails,
and had a world time clock, notepad, calendar, and predictive typing.
Unfortunately, not many people bought it. Why did the Simon die? In part
because the battery lasted only one hour, in part because mobile phone calls
were so expensive at the time, and in part because there was no ecosystem of
apps to draw upon. But just like the Casio touchscreen, Simon left its
genetic material in the iPhone that followed "from nowhere."
Twenty-two years after Kramer's idea, Apple debuted the iPod.
Kane Kramer

Four years after the Simon came the Data Rover 840, a personal digital
assistant that had a touchscreen navigated in 3-D by a stylus. Contact lists
could be stored on a memory chip and carried around anywhere. Mobile
computing was gaining its footing.

Looking through his collection, Buxton points to the many devices that paved
the way for the electronics industry. The 1999 Palm Vx introduced the
thinness we've come to expect in our devices today. "It produced the
vocabulary that led to the super thin stuff like today's laptops," Buxton
says. "Where are the roots? There they are, right there."

Step by step, the groundwork was being laid for Steve Jobs' "revolutionary"
product. The Jesus phone didn't come from a virgin birth after all.

A few years after Jobs' announcement, the writer Steve Cichon bought a stack
of timeworn Buffalo News newspapers from 1991. He wanted to satisfy his
curiosity about what had changed. In the front section, he found this Radio
Shack advertisement.
Steve Cichon/Buffalo Stories archives

Cichon had a revelation: every item on the page had been replaced by the
iPhone in his pocket. Just two decades earlier, a buyer would have spent
$3,054.82 for all this hardware; they were now taken care of by a five-ounce
device at a fraction of the cost and material. The ad was a picture of the
iPhone's genealogy.

Groundbreaking technologies don't appear from nowhere-they result from
inventors "riffing on the best ideas of their heroes," as Buxton observes.
He likens Jonathan Ive, the designer of the iPhone, to a musician such as
Jimi Hendrix, who often "quoted" other musicians in his compositions. "If
you know the history and pay attention to it, you appreciate Jimi Hendrix
all the more," Buxton says.

In a similar vein, science historian Jon Gertner writes:

We usually imagine that invention occurs in a flash, with a eureka moment
that leads an inventor towards a startling epiphany. In truth, large leaps
forward in technology rarely have a precise point of origin. At the start,
forces that precede an invention merely begin to align, often imperceptibly,
as a group of people or ideas converge, until over the course of months or
years (or decades) they gain clarity and momentum and the help of additional
ideas and actors.






Like diamonds, creativity results from pressing history into brilliant new
forms. Consider another of Apple's breakthroughs: the iPod.

In the 1970s, piracy was a major issue in the record industry. Retailers
could return unsold albums to a record company for a refund; many took
advantage of this to send back counterfeit copies instead. In one case, two
million copies of Olivia Newton-John's album Physical were printed, and in
spite of the album topping the charts, an astounding three million copies
were returned.

To stop the rampant fraud, British inventor Kane Kramer came up with an
idea. He would develop a method to transmit music digitally across phone
lines, and an in-store