Document and Short text of SeeingAI

[Apple Nerd]

Hi all, 
I just received some new headphones and it comes with an app I have to 
download. 
I'm having a hard time getting SeeingAI to recognize the whole instructions. 

Sent from my iPod

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Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

[Dave]

no, it works.

Dave.

From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 2:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

I shouldn't speak about this without trying it, but with all of the variables 
involved in handwriting, I can't imagine being able to trust this capability. 
It seems like a kind of parlar game, but i hope that I'm wrong.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

  You know you have to have the writing right side up. 
  Richard




  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- Jane Wagner


  On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Dave  wrote:


Hi rebecca,

Just tried my seeing AI, with a christmas card, and the hand writing 
channel, and it did really well.

I don’t use a stand, just held the phone, about 12 inches or so above the 
card.

Dave.

From: Rebecca Ilniski 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

I attempted to read a Christmas card and couldn’t get it to read for me.  I 
used the scan stand so that I could make sure I put the camera and document 
straight also.  I did have it on the handwriting channel.


Rebecca and guide dog Zeb

Email: rilni...@gmail.com

Twitter: applegirl1994


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Re: Problem with the latest you tube iOS update

[Mário Navarro]

It's not an issue.
It's the way things are now.
I personally like this update.
different but better ...


Às 19:42 de 16/12/2017, Kimber Gardner escreveu:

I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior with the latest
you tube update. With a video playing, when I tap the collapse video
button the play doesn't stop. In order to stop play I have to perform
either a two finger double tap or locate the pause button and double
tap it. So I guess the bottomline is the collapse button isn't
working. I'm running the latest iOS on an iPhone 7.



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Re: Problem with the latest you tube iOS update

[Mário Navarro]

It's not an issue.
It's the way things are now.
I personally like this update.
different but better ...


Às 20:10 de 16/12/2017, Fazil M. escreveu:

I'm experiencing the same problem.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:43 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Problem with the latest you tube iOS update

I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior with the latest you tube 
update. With a video playing, when I tap the collapse video button the play 
doesn't stop. In order to stop play I have to perform either a two finger 
double tap or locate the pause button and double tap it. So I guess the 
bottomline is the collapse button isn't working. I'm running the latest iOS on 
an iPhone 7.

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Re: Problem with the latest you tube iOS update

[Mário Navarro]

It's not an issue.
It's the way things are now.
I personally like this update.
different but better ...


Às 19:53 de 16/12/2017, Donna escreveu:

Yes I've noticed this as well. No deal breaker being 1 swipe from left to right 
puts focus on the pause/play button. Also the advantage of the video continuing 
to play is that I can listen while searching the list of results for the next 
video.

Donna


On Dec 16, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Kimber Gardner  wrote:

I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior with the latest
you tube update. With a video playing, when I tap the collapse video
button the play doesn't stop. In order to stop play I have to perform
either a two finger double tap or locate the pause button and double
tap it. So I guess the bottomline is the collapse button isn't
working. I'm running the latest iOS on an iPhone 7.

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Re: Quite upset with the app Sero

[Julie Dawson]

I also found out that many of the weather stations do not function nor do the 
jazz radio stations. I did listen to the movie Apt Pupil successfully though. 
Live  simply,
  Love generously,
  Care  deeply,
  Speak  kindly
  And  leave the rest to God! 
 Please join me on
www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
build a site to be proud of. 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dana Leet 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: December 16, 2017 6:49 PM
  Subject: Quite upset with the app Sero


   I am quite upset with the app Sero. I say this, because I actually started 
paying the six dollars or 599 that they charge for a monthly subscription last 
month. I went in there today to see if there were any new movies that I wanted 
to watch, and was told my free trial was over. I find this extremely 
interesting, when in fact I am paying a monthly subscription. Really weird is 
it not?


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Quite upset with the app Sero

[Dana Leet]

 I am quite upset with the app Sero. I say this, because I actually started 
paying the six dollars or 599 that they charge for a monthly subscription last 
month. I went in there today to see if there were any new movies that I wanted 
to watch, and was told my free trial was over. I find this extremely 
interesting, when in fact I am paying a monthly subscription. Really weird is 
it not?

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Join Me in Reporting Twitter for iOS v7.14 VoiceOver Bug: Cannot Activate Links via VoiceOver

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

As of the latest Twitter for iOS app, v7.14, released Saturday, December 16,
2017, VoiceOver users cannot activate URL, @, or # links located inside
tweets.

Please join me in reporting this issue.

The following is the review I posted in the App Store.  You are welcome to
use any or all of it in your feedback to Twitter:

[BEGIN REVIEW]
[SUBJECT]:
As of Latest App Update, The Visually Impaired Cannot Activate Links Inside
Tweets

[BODY]:
Hello,

As of the latest Twitter for iOS app, v7.14, released Saturday, December 16,
2017, the visually impaired, using VoiceOver, Apple's software screen
reading solution for the blind and low vision, cannot activate URL, @, or #
links located inside tweets.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
1.
Make certain that VoiceOver is enabled.

2.
Open a tweet containing a URL, @, or # link.

3.
Attempt to activate the link using standard VoiceOver gestures.

I am posting this review as a means of requesting that the Twitter
developers address this problem as soon as possible.

Thank you,
 [END REVIEW]

Here is my tweet on this issue:
[BEGIN TWEET]:
In #iOS @Twitter v7.14 app, links located inside tweets are no longer
accessible via #VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the
blind and #LowVision. Please fix. @Support.
[END TWEET]:

The following is the text of the feedback I submitted via Twitter's feedback
tool, which has a 500-character limit:
[BEGIN FEEDBACK]
In the latest release of Twitter for iOS (v7.14), VoiceOver users cannot
activate URL, @, or # links located inside tweets. Please fix as soon as
possible.
[END FEEDBACK]

Post your request in the App Store, as a review, send a tweet to both
@support and @Twitter, and Submit feedback to Twitter via the feedback form
located at:
https://support.twitter.com/forms/feature_report?feature=tweets.

Thank you and I'll see you on Twitter, @MarkMarcus.

Mark



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RE: unable to open links in Tweets on the latest Twitter app for iOS 7.14

[M. Taylor]

Hello Shai,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Yes, I can reproduce your findings.  

Please report this to Twitter.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shai
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 3:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: unable to open links in Tweets on the latest Twitter app for iOS 7.14

Hello,
I am using an iPhone6s with iOS 11.2.1 and VoiceOver. When I am in the Twitter 
app, I notice that now I am not able to open links that have been sent in 
tweets.
To reproduce this issue I do the following:
1. Find a tweet that has a link in it.
2. Double tap on the tweet to select it this should say home back button.
3. Double tap on the Tweet itself which until today was opening up the link 
that I could read within the Twitter app. Previously I was also able to find 
the link within the tweet itself and double tap on this as well but it seems 
that in both cases the functionality is gone.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue and have a work around?
Thank you in advance for any responses

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Re: iphone, audio description, movies

[Andy Baracco]

This is an example of something that works better in theory than in 
practice. I live in an area that supposedly has several theatres that are 
equipped with the audio description technology, but in practice the 
equipment is not well maintained and the theatre employees, who are often 
teen agers, are either not trained on the use of the equipment, or simply 
forget about it because there are so few requests for it. in my experience, 
more often than not, the system may not be turned on for the film you want 
to view, or the headsets may have dead batteries, or some other issue, or 
they may give you the headset for amplification rather than the one for 
description. This often requires multiple trips back to the customer service 
desk after the movie has started. There is often nothing that can be done 
once the movie has started, so you end up without description. If the 
theatre management is on its game, they may offer you a refund or a pass for 
future use, but that doesn't compensate you for the time and expense it may 
have taken to get to and from the theatre, only to end up with an 
undesirable experience. There have been multiple legal settlements between 
AMC Theatres and organizations of the blind, but in large part, these issues 
still exist.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Kelly Pierce" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: iphone, audio description, movies



Gianni,

Are you in the United States?  If so, the big movie theater chains
have all of the screens in their theaters equipped with the technology
for audio description. At the theaters in my area, they will be happy
to provide a headset and receiver.

Kelly



On 12/15/17, mi...@eastlink.ca  wrote:

hi the app is cald acctiveview the new starwars is not on the app yet
though. hth. from Mich.

From: Gianni
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iphone, audio description, movies

Hi,
I would like to go the movies, the new star wars is cool. But is there an
app on the iphone that provides audio description?



Gianni


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Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

[Andy Baracco]

I shouldn't speak about this without trying it, but with all of the variables 
involved in handwriting, I can't imagine being able to trust this capability. 
It seems like a kind of parlar game, but i hope that I'm wrong.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI


  You know you have to have the writing right side up. 
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  On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Dave  wrote:


Hi rebecca,

Just tried my seeing AI, with a christmas card, and the hand writing 
channel, and it did really well.

I don’t use a stand, just held the phone, about 12 inches or so above the 
card.

Dave.

From: Rebecca Ilniski 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

I attempted to read a Christmas card and couldn’t get it to read for me.  I 
used the scan stand so that I could make sure I put the camera and document 
straight also.  I did have it on the handwriting channel.



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Re: Problem with the latest you tube iOS update

[lenron brown]

I have notice this change.

On 12/16/17, Shai  wrote:
> Hello Kimber,
> Yes, I am experiencing the same issue. I like you wish that collapsing
> the video would stop playback or there was a setting that one could
> change but I did not seem to find one.  One can keep searching for a
> video of the same result before collapsing a video while the current
> video is still playing.
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> On 12/16/17, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
>> I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior with the latest
>> you tube update. With a video playing, when I tap the collapse video
>> button the play doesn't stop. In order to stop play I have to perform
>> either a two finger double tap or locate the pause button and double
>> tap it. So I guess the bottomline is the collapse button isn't
>> working. I'm running the latest iOS on an iPhone 7.
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unable to open links in Tweets on the latest Twitter app for iOS 7.14

[Shai]

Hello,
I am using an iPhone6s with iOS 11.2.1 and VoiceOver. When I am in the
Twitter app, I notice that now I am not able to open links that have
been sent in tweets.
To reproduce this issue I do the following:
1. Find a tweet that has a link in it.
2. Double tap on the tweet to select it this should say home back button.
3. Double tap on the Tweet itself which until today was opening up the
link that I could read within the Twitter app. Previously I was also
able to find the link within the tweet itself and double tap on this
as well but it seems that in both cases the functionality is gone.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue and have a work around?
Thank you in advance for any responses

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Re: rainbow II color identifier now available

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 16 Dec 2017, at 1:36 pm, Louise Peyton  wrote:

Hello:
When I use the rainbow Ii color identifier, I need to move it around the 
clothing item if it’s multi colored.  It will identify each color in the 
pattern.  I don’t find it much different than the Cobal speech master except 
for the smaller size of the Rainbow II.  It performs just as well as other 
identifiers.
Hope that helps.
Louise
 
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: rainbow II color identifier now available
 
Louise,

I'm in the UK and, if you get to talk to them and you can do it, I'd really 
like to know of other shipping options, but their web site (perhaps because 
they haven't yet got any) doesn't have a link (ikt seems) when I read the word 
"here" on their page.

If anyone actually has one, I'd really like to know how it does with patterned 
items, since these almost always cause problems, but I am keen to get a better 
one than I have so would appreciate all feedback.

Thanks.

Carol P

On 9/25/2017 6:49 PM, Louise Peyton wrote:
Hi, Martin:
The website is: http://www.rainbowcolorreader.com  They don’t show product 
availability online which is why I called them and was told they were 
available.  All you can do is to contact them through their website.
Best:
Louise
 
From: 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: rainbow II color identifier now available
 
Hi
 
Do you know if they have a website and if you can order it to be delivered to 
the U.K.
 
Cheers
Martin
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Louise Peyton
Sent: 25 September 2017 17:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: rainbow II color identifier now available
 
Hello, all:
For those who’ve inquired about color identifiers, the Rainbow II color reader 
is now available as of today from Edmondsen Engineering.  Call: (760) 329-0282. 
 I just purchased one.
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Re: Microsoft Seeing AI handwriting channel.

[Richard Turner]

That would be a good question for the Seeing AI team:
seeig...@microsoft.com


Richard



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> On Dec 16, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
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> As I have not seen any comments on the list regarding this question I thought 
> I would put it forward for general consideration.
> 
> There is probably a good reason for there not being, but I wonder why there 
> is no camera guidance in the handwriting channel of Seeing AI?
> 
> Malcolm
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Re: Advantages of upgrading to a new phone

[Robin]

As I understand it, the iPhoneX is Bigger than 
the iPhone8, but it isn't Bigger or Equal in Size to  the iPhone8+


Note:
the iPhone8 is Equal in Size to the iPhone7 & iPhone6S & iPhone6
&
the iPhone8+ is Equal in Size to the iPhone7+ & iPhone6+ & iPhone6S+
At 03:01 PM 12/14/2017, you wrote:
the iPhone X is not biger in size than the 8, 7, 
or 6.  The screen is bigger because of edge to 
edge display, plus the removal of the home 
button.  I upgraded from a 7 to the X.  Why, I 
really can’t say, besides the way I liked the 
feel of the phone, the performance, and quite 
frankly just because I could.  I do like the 
light weight of the phone, the nice feel it has 
to it, and the snappyness of voiceover on it.

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>
> i recently upgraded from an iPhone 6 to an 
iPhone 8. I had had the 6 for 3 years. It still 
worked fine, but it seemed that I was getting 
less battery life, probably due to time and 
repeated charging. I also noticed that after 
updating to IOS 11, the phone ran noticably 
slower. I chose the 8 because I liked the form 
factor, and I wanted the home button. The 8 
runs much faster. I didn't want the X because i 
didn't want a larger phone, and I wanted the home button.

>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message - From: "turab 
chimthanawala" 

> To: "viphone" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 3:12 AM
> Subject: Advantages of upgrading to a new phone
>
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>> Hi all,
>> Hope this mail finds you well.
>> Currently use a  iphone 6. What are the benefits of upgrading to one
>> of the recently launched phones viz. 8, 8+ or X, from a VI
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>> Looking forward to constructive suggestions.
>> Best
>> Turab
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Re: iphone, audio description, movies

[Gianni]

no, in Belgium 



Gianni

Skype: giannijuve
Sent from my iPhone

> Op 16 dec. 2017 om 22:11 heeft Kelly Pierce  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Gianni,
> 
> Are you in the United States?  If so, the big movie theater chains
> have all of the screens in their theaters equipped with the technology
> for audio description. At the theaters in my area, they will be happy
> to provide a headset and receiver.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/15/17, mi...@eastlink.ca  wrote:
>> hi the app is cald acctiveview the new starwars is not on the app yet
>> though. hth. from Mich.
>> 
>> From: Gianni
>> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iphone, audio description, movies
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I would like to go the movies, the new star wars is cool. But is there an
>> app on the iphone that provides audio description?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gianni
>> 
>> 
>> Skype: giannijuve
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Microsoft Seeing AI handwriting channel.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

As I have not seen any comments on the list regarding this question I thought I 
would put it forward for general consideration.

There is probably a good reason for there not being, but I wonder why there is 
no camera guidance in the handwriting channel of Seeing AI?

Malcolm

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Re: Problem with the latest you tube iOS update

[Shai]

Hello Kimber,
Yes, I am experiencing the same issue. I like you wish that collapsing
the video would stop playback or there was a setting that one could
change but I did not seem to find one.  One can keep searching for a
video of the same result before collapsing a video while the current
video is still playing.

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> I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior with the latest
> you tube update. With a video playing, when I tap the collapse video
> button the play doesn't stop. In order to stop play I have to perform
> either a two finger double tap or locate the pause button and double
> tap it. So I guess the bottomline is the collapse button isn't
> working. I'm running the latest iOS on an iPhone 7.
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Re: iphone, audio description, movies

[Kelly Pierce]

Gianni,

Are you in the United States?  If so, the big movie theater chains
have all of the screens in their theaters equipped with the technology
for audio description. At the theaters in my area, they will be happy
to provide a headset and receiver.

Kelly



On 12/15/17, mi...@eastlink.ca  wrote:
> hi the app is cald acctiveview the new starwars is not on the app yet
> though. hth. from Mich.
>
> From: Gianni
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iphone, audio description, movies
>
> Hi,
> I would like to go the movies, the new star wars is cool. But is there an
> app on the iphone that provides audio description?
>
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> Gianni
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Re: Advantages of upgrading to a new phone

[Kelly Pierce]

Kliphton,

I have heard that it is not possible to reach the whole screen with
one hand in the X. does using a two-handed phone bother you?  I like
being able to manage my iPhone in my pocket with one hand while my
other hand is busy with a white cane.

Kelly



On 12/15/17, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> I even heard they sound much better than that of the iphone 8.
> Regards
> Davy
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Anthony Vece
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> Hi Andy;
> I upgraded to the iPhone 8 plus. I previously had a 7+. I’m not sorry I did.
>
> The battery life is unbelievable on it and the speakers are unbelievable I
> just can’t believe how good they sound. take care God bless Anthony
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!
>
>> On Dec 14, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>
>> i recently upgraded from an iPhone 6 to an iPhone 8. I had had the 6 for 3
>>
>> years. It still worked fine, but it seemed that I was getting less battery
>>
>> life, probably due to time and repeated charging. I also noticed that
>> after updating to IOS 11, the phone ran noticably slower. I chose the 8
>> because I liked the form factor, and I wanted the home button. The 8 runs
>>
>> much faster. I didn't want the X because i didn't want a larger phone, and
>>
>> I wanted the home button.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "turab chimthanawala"
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messenger less accessible

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi Folks 

Who can confirm this behaviour? The start tab in which your messages are shown 
is nolonger accessible in the messenger app with the latest update.
Regards
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RE: Problem with the latest you tube iOS update

[Fazil M.]

I'm experiencing the same problem.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:43 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Problem with the latest you tube iOS update

I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior with the latest you tube 
update. With a video playing, when I tap the collapse video button the play 
doesn't stop. In order to stop play I have to perform either a two finger 
double tap or locate the pause button and double tap it. So I guess the 
bottomline is the collapse button isn't working. I'm running the latest iOS on 
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Re: Problem with the latest you tube iOS update

[Donna]

Yes I've noticed this as well. No deal breaker being 1 swipe from left to right 
puts focus on the pause/play button. Also the advantage of the video continuing 
to play is that I can listen while searching the list of results for the next 
video. 

Donna 

> On Dec 16, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Kimber Gardner  
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> I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior with the latest
> you tube update. With a video playing, when I tap the collapse video
> button the play doesn't stop. In order to stop play I have to perform
> either a two finger double tap or locate the pause button and double
> tap it. So I guess the bottomline is the collapse button isn't
> working. I'm running the latest iOS on an iPhone 7.
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Problem with the latest you tube iOS update

[Kimber Gardner]

I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior with the latest
you tube update. With a video playing, when I tap the collapse video
button the play doesn't stop. In order to stop play I have to perform
either a two finger double tap or locate the pause button and double
tap it. So I guess the bottomline is the collapse button isn't
working. I'm running the latest iOS on an iPhone 7.

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Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

[Richard Turner]

You know you have to have the writing right side up.
Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
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On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Dave 
> wrote:

Hi rebecca,

Just tried my seeing AI, with a christmas card, and the hand writing channel, 
and it did really well.

I don’t use a stand, just held the phone, about 12 inches or so above the card.

Dave.

From: Rebecca Ilniski
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

I attempted to read a Christmas card and couldn’t get it to read for me.  I 
used the scan stand so that I could make sure I put the camera and document 
straight also.  I did have it on the handwriting channel.

Rebecca and guide dog Zeb
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Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

[Dave]

Hi rebecca,

Just tried my seeing AI, with a christmas card, and the hand writing channel, 
and it did really well.

I don’t use a stand, just held the phone, about 12 inches or so above the card.

Dave.

From: Rebecca Ilniski 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

I attempted to read a Christmas card and couldn’t get it to read for me.  I 
used the scan stand so that I could make sure I put the camera and document 
straight also.  I did have it on the handwriting channel.

 

Rebecca and guide dog Zeb

Email: rilni...@gmail.com

Twitter: applegirl1994

 

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RE: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

[Rebecca Ilniski]

I attempted to read a Christmas card and couldn't get it to read for me.  I
used the scan stand so that I could make sure I put the camera and document
straight also.  I did have it on the handwriting channel.

 

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RE: Publix work around for any IOS version

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Sherrie,

Thanks for this.  We generally just use the app for the weekly ad, so this is 
perfect.  It is nice to be able to see the next week's ad a little ahead of 
time too.

Pam


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sherrie 
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Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:32 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Publix work around for any IOS version

As a work around for the Publix app, especially since the main thing I want is 
the weekly ad, I put the following link on my home screen and use it to read 
the weekly ad.

http://www.southernsavers.com/publix-
It is a website called  Southern Savers and when you go down several times by 
heading you  just click on the date for the ad and then you can navigate by 
heading through every item in a list. The items also include which current 
coupons apply to each item but if you navigate by headings it skips that info. 
If you happen to be into coupons it lets you know which newspaper and online 
coupons apply to the items.
What is especially nice is that you don't have to wait until the ad is  on the 
Publix app active to see it. They usually post the next week's ad either Monday 
evening or Tuesday morning.  So you can compare the current week's ad to the 
next week's ad to see what might be going on sale a little earlier than on the 
actual app.
I have used this site for years and it has ben safe and dependable.
It is easy to put the link on your home screen and just click on it to go .  
right there each week to check it out.
I use it on my phone and also on my laptop.
Sherrie

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RE: Publix App

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Merv,

Mine became inaccessible after an update to the app a couple of months ago.  
There was another update this last week which didn't fix the accessibility 
issues.  I don't even get any feedback from VoiceOver on the initial screen 
that comes up when you launch the app.  

I had written to Publix yesterday and got a response that the VoiceOver issues 
should be fixed by the end of January.  I guess we will see.

Pam

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Merv 
Keck [blind5spar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Publix App

My Publix App went non-accessible about a month or two ago. On my 6S+.
I have the latest version of the Publix app and IOS 11.2. I wonder if I should 
uninstall the app and reinstall it?
Merv


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherrie Gosling
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Publix App

The  app works fine on my 6S. I had to get cited help to help me get signed in 
but then it works fine.


Sherrie
Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



> On Dec 15, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
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> Has anyone who uses the Publix app been able to get it to work with VoiceOver 
> since the most recent updates to the app?  I am not able to get past the 
> first screen.  There was another recent update to the app, but this is still 
> not fixed.  The app used to be quite accessible until recent updates.
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Re: Sorry if OT Pod casts for the Mac

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
If you go to the apple vis website they have a whole section dedicated to 
starting out with the mac. There are podcasts as well as text tutorials.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

> On Dec 16, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
>  
> I am attempting to change over to the apple computers.
> I have a laptop that I am trying to learn, but I can't find a podcast that 
> can teach me how to use it with VO.
> Any suggestions?
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Publix work around for any IOS version

[Sherrie]

As a work around for the Publix app, especially since the main thing I want is 
the weekly ad, I put the following link on my home screen and use it to read 
the weekly ad. 

http://www.southernsavers.com/publix-
It is a website called  Southern Savers and when you go down several times by 
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coupons apply to the items.
What is especially nice is that you don't have to wait until the ad is  on the 
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evening or Tuesday morning.  So you can compare the current week's ad to the 
next week's ad to see what might be going on sale a little earlier than on the 
actual app.
I have used this site for years and it has ben safe and dependable.
It is easy to put the link on your home screen and just click on it to go .  
right there each week to check it out.
I use it on my phone and also on my laptop.
Sherrie

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Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

[Richard Turner]

Hi Sandy,
What I've found is that you have to hold the phone higher from the document 
than with other OCR apps. It is about 18 inches for me. And you have to hold 
steady when it says to hold steady and it will automatically take the picture.
And, yes, the handwriting recognition is amazing!
HTH,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Dec 16, 2017, at 6:56 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> wrote:

hi,
Using the Seeing AI app with my iPhone 6 I am able to read, even when in Irish, 
my Christmas cards from my neighbours and friends. this is really good! now, 
just one thing, I have never yet managed to get a document recognised. short 
document mode is fine, but the full one way you take picture always fails. it 
fails because it cuts out because it is taking too long. I imagine, this is 
because of my Internet connection. but if I take a picture of a scene, it comes 
back very quickly with the description which is quite accurate. so, might the 
problem lay elsewhere? after all, it recognises and interpret handwriting, 
which has to be sent off to the cloud to be processed, so, why not documents? 
any ideas?
Very happy, Sandy

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hand writing recognition with seeing AI

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
Using the Seeing AI app with my iPhone 6 I am able to read, even when in Irish, 
my Christmas cards from my neighbours and friends. this is really good! now, 
just one thing, I have never yet managed to get a document recognised. short 
document mode is fine, but the full one way you take picture always fails. it 
fails because it cuts out because it is taking too long. I imagine, this is 
because of my Internet connection. but if I take a picture of a scene, it comes 
back very quickly with the description which is quite accurate. so, might the 
problem lay elsewhere? after all, it recognises and interpret handwriting, 
which has to be sent off to the cloud to be processed, so, why not documents? 
any ideas?
Very happy, Sandy

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RE: rainbow II color identifier now available

[Louise Peyton]

Hello:
When I use the rainbow Ii color identifier, I need to move it around the 
clothing item if it’s multi colored.  It will identify each color in the 
pattern.  I don’t find it much different than the Cobal speech master except 
for the smaller size of the Rainbow II.  It performs just as well as other 
identifiers.
Hope that helps.
Louise

From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: rainbow II color identifier now available

Louise,

I'm in the UK and, if you get to talk to them and you can do it, I'd really 
like to know of other shipping options, but their web site (perhaps because 
they haven't yet got any) doesn't have a link (ikt seems) when I read the word 
"here" on their page.

If anyone actually has one, I'd really like to know how it does with patterned 
items, since these almost always cause problems, but I am keen to get a better 
one than I have so would appreciate all feedback.

Thanks.

Carol P
On 9/25/2017 6:49 PM, Louise Peyton wrote:
Hi, Martin:
The website is: 
http://www.rainbowcolorreader.com
  They don’t show product availability online which is why I called them and 
was told they were available.  All you can do is to contact them through their 
website.
Best:
Louise

From: 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: rainbow II color identifier now available

Hi

Do you know if they have a website and if you can order it to be delivered to 
the U.K.

Cheers
Martin


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Louise Peyton
Sent: 25 September 2017 17:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: rainbow II color identifier now available

Hello, all:
For those who’ve inquired about color identifiers, the Rainbow II color reader 
is now available as of today from Edmondsen Engineering.  Call: (760) 329-0282. 
 I just purchased one.
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Sorry if OT Pod casts for the Mac

[Jeremy Gilley]

Good morning,

 

I am attempting to change over to the apple computers.

I have a laptop that I am trying to learn, but I can't find a podcast that
can teach me how to use it with VO.

Any suggestions?

Please email off list if this is OT.

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Re: Siri is still pretty stupid

[Sadam Ahmed]

I recently got the Google Home mini.

The Google assistant on my mini and Android device totally trashes Siri.

Enough said from my end as the thread is moving off topic.

All I'll say is Apple better step up their game, or they'll be overtaken 
by Google.


Sadam Ahmed

On 16/12/2017 12:36 PM, Bonnie Blose wrote:

I think you meant quarter. Much as I hate football, let's put innings in 
baseball. I did love that sport at one time and have fond memories of it still.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid

Hi all, I agree with you in every way Siri is still pretty stupid she messes it 
all the time instead of knowing anything she always wants to look it up on the 
web and comes up with things that are not even relevant. I can also say Siri is 
not ever serious! About getting anything right six! If Siri was in a football 
game Siri would’ve lost in the first inning.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 15, 2017, at 4:41 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Yes, Mary said it very well for us all! I too feel there are just too many 
occasions when you ask a simple question and he/she just doesn't understand and 
give a meaningful answer. I'm tired of being asked if I want to read something 
on the Web. I want Siri to go on speaking what he/she reads because that's why 
I've asked for his/her help, because I want the information and I want it 
quickly!

At present, most assistants have this quirk when sometimes they know an answer 
or how to do something and other times they just say they don't know. As others 
have said, Siri was the first and he/she should be leading the way for sure!

Carol P - UK

On 9/24/2017 7:04 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:

Why don't you use proper punctuation?

Where not all Apple sheep thinking the sun shines out of Tim's behind.

Also, Last time I checked it wasn't a crime to express ones opinion as Mary did 
so eloquently.


On 24/09/2017 3:06 AM, Janet Bell wrote:
if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list for 
them (very strange)  siri is not human try and remember that.

-Original Message- From: Mike Ulrich
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid

I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA!

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Re: Publix App

[Sherrie Gosling]

I have not upgraded to IOS 11yet. 

Using latest Publix app.
Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



> On Dec 15, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Merv Keck  wrote:
> 
> My Publix App went non-accessible about a month or two ago. On my 6S+.
> I have the latest version of the Publix app and IOS 11.2. I wonder if I 
> should uninstall the app and reinstall it?
> Merv
> 
> 
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> The  app works fine on my 6S. I had to get cited help to help me get signed 
> in but then it works fine.
> 
> 
> Sherrie 
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>> On Dec 15, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
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>> Has anyone who uses the Publix app been able to get it to work with 
>> VoiceOver since the most recent updates to the app?  I am not able to get 
>> past the first screen.  There was another recent update to the app, but this 
>> is still not fixed.  The app used to be quite accessible until recent 
>> updates.
>> 
>> Pam 
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Re: how to contact the seeing ai developer

[Dave]

seein...@microsoft.com


From: Fanus 
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Subject: how to contact the seeing ai developer

Hello list
Does anyone have contact info?
Regards
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how to contact the seeing ai developer

[Fanus]

Hello list
Does anyone have contact info?
Regards
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OT: RE: rainbow II color identifier now available

['Martin Maidment' via VIPhone]

Hi Carole

 

I’m not sure how good this is on patterns but I will say it is a lot better 
than the one we can get in the U.K.

 

If you ring them they will send you a PayPal invoice for payment.

 

It roughly costs £65.  Becarefull because customs stung me for £20 but somebody 
on this list told me as it’s a product for the blind I should not have been 
charged.

 

It maybe worth trying the colour ID on seeing ai.  It looks pretty good.

 

Cheers

Martin

 

 

From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 15 December 2017 23:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: rainbow II color identifier now available

 

Louise,

I'm in the UK and, if you get to talk to them and you can do it, I'd really 
like to know of other shipping options, but their web site (perhaps because 
they haven't yet got any) doesn't have a link (ikt seems) when I read the word 
"here" on their page.

If anyone actually has one, I'd really like to know how it does with patterned 
items, since these almost always cause problems, but I am keen to get a better 
one than I have so would appreciate all feedback.

Thanks.

Carol P

On 9/25/2017 6:49 PM, Louise Peyton wrote:

Hi, Martin:

The website is: http://www.rainbowcolorreader.com  They don’t show product 
availability online which is why I called them and was told they were 
available.  All you can do is to contact them through their website.

Best:

Louise

 

From: 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: rainbow II color identifier now available

 

Hi

 

Do you know if they have a website and if you can order it to be delivered to 
the U.K.

 

Cheers

Martin

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Louise Peyton
Sent: 25 September 2017 17:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: rainbow II color identifier now available

 

Hello, all:

For those who’ve inquired about color identifiers, the Rainbow II color reader 
is now available as of today from Edmondsen Engineering.  Call: (760) 329-0282. 
 I just purchased one.

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Re: Travel abroad

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Buy a simm when you get there, have it fitted - not by them.  You'll be 
hammered for overseas charges otherwise.   A double  simm 
phone can be useful for this,  but still can't guarantee it'll use the right 
simm to save the money.

- Original Message - 
From: "Marilyn Bland" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:19 AM
Subject: RE: Travel abroad


Hello everyone,

I will be travelling from the US to Africa soon. Will I be able to use my 
iphone there? What will I have to do to have it function 
there as it does here?

Thanks for any help on this.

Marilyn

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Re: Siri is still pretty stupid

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

OT:  quote of the day that got me a good belly laugh:-

If Siri had been in a football game, he/she would have lost in the first 
innings.

Sums up Her(in my case) confusion.


- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Irons" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid


Hi all, I agree with you in every way Siri is still pretty stupid she messes it 
all the time instead of knowing anything she always 
wants to look it up on the web and comes up with things that are not even 
relevant. I can also say Siri is not ever serious! About 
getting anything right six! If Siri was in a football game Siri would’ve lost 
in the first inning.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2017, at 4:41 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>
> Yes, Mary said it very well for us all! I too feel there are just too many 
> occasions when you ask a simple question and he/she 
> just doesn't understand and give a meaningful answer. I'm tired of being 
> asked if I want to read something on the Web. I want Siri 
> to go on speaking what he/she reads because that's why I've asked for his/her 
> help, because I want the information and I want it 
> quickly!
>
> At present, most assistants have this quirk when sometimes they know an 
> answer or how to do something and other times they just 
> say they don't know. As others have said, Siri was the first and he/she 
> should be leading the way for sure!
>
> Carol P - UK
>> On 9/24/2017 7:04 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:
>>
>> Why don't you use proper punctuation?
>>
>> Where not all Apple sheep thinking the sun shines out of Tim's behind.
>>
>> Also, Last time I checked it wasn't a crime to express ones opinion as Mary 
>> did so eloquently.
>>
>>> On 24/09/2017 3:06 AM, Janet Bell wrote:
>>> if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list 
>>> for them (very strange)  siri is not human try and 
>>> remember that.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Mike Ulrich
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; 
>>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid
>>>
>>> I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA!
>>>
>>> Michael D. Ulrich
>>> Just an ordinary average blind guy!
>>> Florida Council of the Blind
>>> Fundraising Committee Member
>>> !**!
>>> FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament!

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