RE: Ramdomly iOS asks for WiFi password

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hasn't happened yet to me.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Harry Bell
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Ramdomly iOS asks for WiFi password

I too have noticed ios 11 forgetting Wi-fi passwords!
Harry

> On 8 Feb 2018, at 13:48, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Anyone have tips/tricks why might it be that iOS heer at my sister's house, 
> randomly asks me for the WiFi password? This didn't happen with iOS10 when 
> I'd come to visit. This is kind of driving me crazy! Thanks for info.
> 
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RE: Ring Tones again

[Sieghard Weitzel]

1. Connect your iPhone to the computer and open iTunes
2. Press Control+F, this will take you to the search box, now tab 2 or 3 times 
and you should see the “iPhone” button, activate it
3. Tab into the treeview which starts with “Summary”, type “T O” and it will go 
to Tones, if not arrow down it’s almost at the bottom.
4. Tab until you are in the listview of Tones.
5. Open the folder where your ringtone is located, copy it to the clipboard 
with Control+C
6. Alt+Tab back to iTunes and simply paste it into the listview with Control+V, 
it will automatically sync to your phone, no further action is necessary.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Rash
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ring Tones again

What is the easiest way to move ring tones to the iPhone?  I assume you have to 
go through iTunes.  I think I need steps to do this.  I created a ring tone of 
my own with iRinger.  It was supposed to put it in iTunes but don’t see it 
there.  I am using the latest version of iTunes.  This used to work.  Thanks 
for any advice.

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RE: A Question for iOS Focus Blue Users

[M. Taylor]

Hello Scott and thanks for the post.

Too bad about the cursor routing keys but, as you say, there are still a great 
many other key-combos one can configure.

I am using the Original Focus 40 Blue which, I am delighted to report, is 
functioning flawlessly with the current commercial release of iOS.

Mark

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Scott Davert
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 7:28 AM
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Subject: Re: A Question for iOS Focus Blue Users

Hi Mark.
yeah, old thread, I know. I have time once in awhile to pop in here and write a 
message. Anyway, you cannot use the cursor routing buttons to custumize 
commands, but you can use the hardware keys along with any combination of 
keyboard commands for your assignment. So you still have a lot of things you 
can do.
A bit off the point, but are you using the Focus 40 5th generation? I ask, 
because I'm having some issues with iOS 11 and that specific device concerning 
chorded commands.

Thanks,
Scott

On 1/30/18, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> Got it sorted now, in the (Focus 40 Blue) Braille Command Settings. 
> What was
>
> putting me off, was VoiceOver saying, 'this key is already being used 
> for the right panning button": But the idea, is to replace it, with 
> the left panning button, and vice versa; so you double-tap Replace.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Flor Lynch
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Question for iOS Focus Blue Users
>
> I thought so. at the time. I guess I must revisit the podcast and the 
> command settings...
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:35 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: A Question for iOS Focus Blue Users
>
> Hi,
>
> Jonathan Mosen specifically states that he set up reverse panning, so 
> I know it can be done.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>> On Jan 30, 2018, at 2:30 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
>>
>> Panning buttons? I'm not sure about that. (I wanted to make the 
>> 'reverse panning' feature work in iOS like it does in JAWS, but couldn't do 
>> it.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 3:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Question for iOS Focus Blue Users
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I know that the customization episode is in the blindside podcast 
>> right before he talks about the iPhone 10. The episode about the 
>> galaxy may be there around too.
>> As to your second question, I don't believe you can use the routing 
>> buttons but you can use the rocker switches and panning buttons. Hope 
>> this
>>
>> helps.
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>> Jenn and Kumi
>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2018, at 6:27 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> First, does anyone recall the podcast/episode in which Jonathan 
>>> Mosen demonstrated the Braille display customization features 
>>> introduced with iOS 11?  I know it was either in the Freedom 
>>> Scientific FS Cast or his Blindside Podcast but I cannot locate the 
>>> episode.
>>>
>>> Second, I was just exploring the Braille Display customization 
>>> features, attempting to reassign some Focus 40 Blue hardware keys 
>>> when I discovered that one cannot use any of the Router keys in this 
>>> fashion.  Is this correct?
>>>
>>> Can one use any kind of hardware key-combos as a custom assignment?
>>>
>>> All replies, greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Mark
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RE: Ramdomly iOS asks for WiFi password

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

Have you tried a reset Network Settings?
Keith

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 7:49 AM
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Subject: Ramdomly iOS asks for WiFi password

Anyone have tips/tricks why might it be that iOS heer at my sister's house, 
randomly asks me for the WiFi password? This didn't happen with
iOS10 when I'd come to visit. This is kind of driving me crazy! Thanks for info.

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RE: guide to braille on the iPHone

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I learned 6 dot Braille. Is there a good resource for learning about 8 dot 
Braille? Thanks, Keith

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Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 10:14 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: guide to braille on the iPHone

Hello,

I just looked at this guide, and it was last updated about a year ago. Major 
changes were made to braille input in iOS 11, so I wouldn't use that article as 
a guide. I believe AppleVis talks about changes to braille in their iOS 11 
coverage, and Jonathan Mosen deals with it in iOS Without the Eye.

To answer the earlier question, dot 7 is Backspace, and dot 8 is Enter. Editing 
is now much like editing on other devices; you can make the changes you want 
and usually don't have characters mis-translated.

Best,
Anna

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Ring Tones again

[Tom Rash]

What is the easiest way to move ring tones to the iPhone?  I assume you have
to go through iTunes.  I think I need steps to do this.  I created a ring
tone of my own with iRinger.  It was supposed to put it in iTunes but don't
see it there.  I am using the latest version of iTunes.  This used to work.
Thanks for any advice. 

 

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Re: iOS 11.3 Beta Music Accessibility Alert! Attention All Beta Testers!

[Scott Berry]

Hi Mark,

I read your email with interest.  Unfortunately, I don’t use Apple Music much I 
use Youtube Music instead so this bug currently doesn’t apply to me.  It’s good 
info to know though.



> On Feb 7, 2018, at 10:43 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As a follow-up to Malcolm's beta software notice, Sieghard sent me a very
> compelling email, off-list explaining the details of the iOS 11.3 beta
> software Music app VoiceOver accessibility bug.
> 
> After reading Sieghard's email, I believe this current bug is significant
> enough to be posted to the list if for no other reason than to request that
> all beta testers send feedback on this, immediately..  
> 
> So, rather than paraphrasing Sieghard's email, I am going to paste it in,
> after my signature, for everyone to read.  
> 
> Please follow Sieghard's feedback suggestions if you wish to participate in
> a solution.  Discussing it here, on the list, will not result in any change
> as this is still a beta release.  
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 8:59 PM
> To: mk...@ucla.edu
> Subject: RE: Serious bug in music app in latest beta of iOS 11.3
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Sending this to you. I thought Malcolm might get into minor trouble for
> posting this. However, I am glad he did. I just upgraded to public beta 2 of
> iOS 11.3 and while I am glad I can use Skype again (it crashed each time I
> tried to open it in the initial 11.3 release) this music bug is pretty
> unbelieveable. I just opened the Music app and Malcolm is correct, Voiceover
> reads only "button" and it will then try to identify the text and usually
> succeed, e.g. if I am in my library it will say "possible text playlist" or
> "possible text artist" etc. When I tapped where it said "Artist" it
> continues to read all artists displayed as "button" and again it will
> usually identify by saying, for example, "possible text Air Supply". Of
> course if you go into Air Supply it also doesn't speak the albums and the
> songs and you often have to swipe right and back left before it will
> identify the text so it's all very frustrating and currently I would call
> the Music 95% inaccessible because of this.
> I just submitted a bug report via the Feedback app so hopefully other beta
> testers will do so and hopefully Apple will therefore fix this sooner rather
> than later. It would be a shame if iOS 11.3 were released to the public with
> that bug, if that is the case people need to be warned.
> I think given the situation maybe you could post something, tell people to
> please not reply, but ask anybody who is an iOS 11.3 public beta tester to
> check this out and to submit Feedback using the Feedback app. The Feedback
> app is very accessible and pretty easy to use. There is no point sending
> emails to Apple Accessibility, it's beta software and at least in the past
> they don't like to receive beta related feedback.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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Re: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Yes I'm seeing this here too. I thought perhaps it might have something to 
do with its use of the microphone for communication. Has anyone opened a 
dialog with them about this to see if there's a logical reason behind it or 
if it's something that they didn't even realize would be an issue for 
VoiceOver users?
I only ask because my short exchanges with them gave me the sense that they 
might not have been as aware that blind people thus users of voiceover were 
even making as much use of their video oriented devices as might actually be 
the case.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Rick Alfaro

Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App

Yes, this happens here as well. The problem is that for whatever reason, the 
audio output switches to the ear piece and on top of that, the volume is 
reduced quite a bit. I've learned to automatically put the phone to my ear 
and raise the volume with the volume button. It's annoying for sure.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Yolanda Thompson

Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App

I have an 8 plus, and my biggest problem is that the volume when I answer 
the ring and enter the app goes waaay down.  Anyone else seeing this?


On 2/7/18, Carla  wrote:

OK thanks.  I may check it out again.  It's my alarm center that
installed it as we just upgraded our system and since we couldn't get
it to work he didn't charge me but I can have him come back and give it 
another try.






From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App



Make sure you go into Notification Centre and set it to Alerts and not
Banners as they go away.

I do agree that answering it quickly can be a bit of a challenge, but
with a bit of practice you’ll get it.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 > On
Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App



When it gave the notification it took me forever to find the right
place to double tap.  I know it is on the top of the screen and the
installer told me it was a green button which didn't do me any good
lol!  I mean it wasn't an easy access at all to get in to and to get
out of.  He took it back but I would get another one if we could make it 
work.






From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App



I do use it and it works OK, it has a few quirks, but all in all it
works OK. What exactly is the issue you have?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 > On
Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 9:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App



Is anyone using the Ring Doorbell App?  I got one but find it not easy
to work.  Any help with voiceover with this app would be greatly 
appreciated.

If it isn't going to work I need to know soon.  Thanks!



Carla



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guide to braille on the iPHone

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hello,

I just looked at this guide, and it was last updated about a year ago. Major 
changes were made to braille input in iOS 11, so I wouldn't use that article as 
a guide. I believe AppleVis talks about changes to braille in their iOS 11 
coverage, and Jonathan Mosen deals with it in iOS Without the Eye.

To answer the earlier question, dot 7 is Backspace, and dot 8 is Enter. Editing 
is now much like editing on other devices; you can make the changes you want 
and usually don't have characters mis-translated.

Best,
Anna

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deleting a pop account.

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

What am I missing? I have tried to delete the account through accounts and 
passwords as well as mail. When I double tap the account, I do not see a delete 
button. I can add accounts all day long but I can’t work out how to remove an 
account. This is on an 8 plus running the most recent build of IOS 11.2. Thanks 
folks.
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Re: A Question for iOS Focus Blue Users

[Scott Davert]

Hi Mark.
yeah, old thread, I know. I have time once in awhile to pop in here
and write a message. Anyway, you cannot use the cursor routing buttons
to custumize commands, but you can use the hardware keys along with
any combination of keyboard commands for your assignment. So you still
have a lot of things you can do.
A bit off the point, but are you using the Focus 40 5th generation? I
ask, because I'm having some issues with iOS 11 and that specific
device concerning chorded commands.

Thanks,
Scott

On 1/30/18, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> Got it sorted now, in the (Focus 40 Blue) Braille Command Settings. What was
>
> putting me off, was VoiceOver saying, 'this key is already being used for
> the right panning button": But the idea, is to replace it, with the left
> panning button, and vice versa; so you double-tap Replace.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Flor Lynch
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Question for iOS Focus Blue Users
>
> I thought so. at the time. I guess I must revisit the podcast and the
> command settings...
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:35 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: A Question for iOS Focus Blue Users
>
> Hi,
>
> Jonathan Mosen specifically states that he set up reverse panning, so I
> know
> it can be done.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>> On Jan 30, 2018, at 2:30 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
>>
>> Panning buttons? I'm not sure about that. (I wanted to make the 'reverse
>> panning' feature work in iOS like it does in JAWS, but couldn't do it.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 3:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Question for iOS Focus Blue Users
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I know that the customization episode is in the blindside podcast right
>> before he talks about the iPhone 10. The episode about the galaxy may be
>> there around too.
>> As to your second question, I don't believe you can use the routing
>> buttons but you can use the rocker switches and panning buttons. Hope this
>>
>> helps.
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>> Jenn and Kumi
>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2018, at 6:27 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> First, does anyone recall the podcast/episode in which Jonathan Mosen
>>> demonstrated the Braille display customization features introduced with
>>> iOS
>>> 11?  I know it was either in the Freedom Scientific FS Cast or his
>>> Blindside
>>> Podcast but I cannot locate the episode.
>>>
>>> Second, I was just exploring the Braille Display customization features,
>>> attempting to reassign some Focus 40 Blue hardware keys when I
>>> discovered
>>> that one cannot use any of the Router keys in this fashion.  Is this
>>> correct?
>>>
>>> Can one use any kind of hardware key-combos as a custom assignment?
>>>
>>> All replies, greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Mark
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RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App

[Rick Alfaro]

Yes, this happens here as well. The problem is that for whatever reason, the 
audio output switches to the ear piece and on top of that, the volume is 
reduced quite a bit. I've learned to automatically put the phone to my ear and 
raise the volume with the volume button. It's annoying for sure.



-Original Message-
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Yolanda Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App

I have an 8 plus, and my biggest problem is that the volume when I answer the 
ring and enter the app goes waaay down.  Anyone else seeing this?

On 2/7/18, Carla  wrote:
> OK thanks.  I may check it out again.  It's my alarm center that 
> installed it as we just upgraded our system and since we couldn't get 
> it to work he didn't charge me but I can have him come back and give it 
> another try.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App
>
>
>
> Make sure you go into Notification Centre and set it to Alerts and not 
> Banners as they go away.
>
> I do agree that answering it quickly can be a bit of a challenge, but 
> with a bit of practice you’ll get it.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>  > On 
> Behalf Of Carla
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App
>
>
>
> When it gave the notification it took me forever to find the right 
> place to double tap.  I know it is on the top of the screen and the 
> installer told me it was a green button which didn't do me any good 
> lol!  I mean it wasn't an easy access at all to get in to and to get 
> out of.  He took it back but I would get another one if we could make it work.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
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>
>
>
> I do use it and it works OK, it has a few quirks, but all in all it 
> works OK. What exactly is the issue you have?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
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> Behalf Of Carla
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>
>
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Re: Ramdomly iOS asks for WiFi password

[Harry Bell]

I too have noticed ios 11 forgetting Wi-fi passwords!
Harry

> On 8 Feb 2018, at 13:48, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Anyone have tips/tricks why might it be that iOS heer at my sister's house, 
> randomly asks me for the WiFi password? This didn't happen with iOS10 when 
> I'd come to visit. This is kind of driving me crazy! Thanks for info.
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Re: at sign in Iphone braille input

[englishrider91]

There's a great article about all this on AppleVis.
A Guide to Braille Screen Input on iOS:
https://www.applevis.com/guides/braille-ios-voiceover/guide-braille-screen-input-ios


Thanks,
Ari

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 5:38 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> please can someone tell me when you are using braille input where is the 
> backspace and if there is not one how to delete something and also where is 
> the line up or down button. and finally do you still swipe right when you are 
> in text messages.  sorry but never done this before.  Janet
>  
> From: Maria Reyes
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: at sign in Iphone braille input
>  
> Janet, 
> Go to Settings > general > Accessibility > VoiceOver then select rotor from 
> the menu. Flick until you hear braille screen input then double tap. You 
> should have it in your rotor when you go to type. 
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>> On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> please can someone tell me how to get the braille keyboard on an iPhone and 
>> is there any help you can get to use it and learn keystrokes please?  Janet
>>  
>> From: Devin Prater
>> Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 3:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: at sign in Iphone braille input
>>  
>> Type dot four, then dot 1.
>> Devin Prater
>> Assistive Technology Instructor
>> 
>> , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
>> World Services for the Blind
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Dan  wrote:
>>>  
>>> How do I enter an at sign using braille input on an Iphone?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Beaver
>>> 
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Ramdomly iOS asks for WiFi password

[Gerardo Corripio]

Anyone have tips/tricks why might it be that iOS heer at my sister's 
house, randomly asks me for the WiFi password? This didn't happen with 
iOS10 when I'd come to visit. This is kind of driving me crazy! Thanks 
for info.


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RE: iOS 11.3 Beta Music Accessibility Alert! Attention All Beta Testers!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Nothing until iOS 11.3 is released to the public, if Apple hasn't fixed this 
then and you use the music app often then definitely don't update to 11.3 but 
send an email to Apple Accessibility and scream bloody murder.
Please remember not to send such an email now, that is "Do not" email Apple 
Accessibility about this now since this is beta software and they don't deal 
with pre-release software issues, that is what the beta community and the beta 
feedback form is for.
I think at this point this thread will hopefully close, thanks, Mark, for 
posting this and let's all not clutter the list more about this. If you are a 
public beta tester you know what you have to do in terms of submitting Feedback 
via the Feedback app all beta testers have, if you don't do it you shouldn't be 
a public beta tester.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 5:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 11.3 Beta Music Accessibility Alert! Attention All Beta 
Testers!

Yikes! Apple really dropped the ball with this one! I'm not part of the beta 
program, and I only have one current enough iOS device that could even run it, 
so I'm not sure how much help I could realistically be. If there's anything 
non-beta iOS users can do, would you let us know?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:43 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As a follow-up to Malcolm's beta software notice, Sieghard sent me a 
> very compelling email, off-list explaining the details of the iOS 11.3 
> beta software Music app VoiceOver accessibility bug.
> 
> After reading Sieghard's email, I believe this current bug is 
> significant enough to be posted to the list if for no other reason 
> than to request that all beta testers send feedback on this, immediately..
> 
> So, rather than paraphrasing Sieghard's email, I am going to paste it 
> in, after my signature, for everyone to read.
> 
> Please follow Sieghard's feedback suggestions if you wish to 
> participate in a solution.  Discussing it here, on the list, will not 
> result in any change as this is still a beta release.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 8:59 PM
> To: mk...@ucla.edu
> Subject: RE: Serious bug in music app in latest beta of iOS 11.3
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Sending this to you. I thought Malcolm might get into minor trouble 
> for posting this. However, I am glad he did. I just upgraded to public 
> beta 2 of iOS 11.3 and while I am glad I can use Skype again (it 
> crashed each time I tried to open it in the initial 11.3 release) this 
> music bug is pretty unbelieveable. I just opened the Music app and 
> Malcolm is correct, Voiceover reads only "button" and it will then try 
> to identify the text and usually succeed, e.g. if I am in my library 
> it will say "possible text playlist" or "possible text artist" etc. 
> When I tapped where it said "Artist" it continues to read all artists 
> displayed as "button" and again it will usually identify by saying, 
> for example, "possible text Air Supply". Of course if you go into Air 
> Supply it also doesn't speak the albums and the songs and you often 
> have to swipe right and back left before it will identify the text so 
> it's all very frustrating and currently I would call the Music 95% 
> inaccessible because of this.
> I just submitted a bug report via the Feedback app so hopefully other 
> beta testers will do so and hopefully Apple will therefore fix this 
> sooner rather than later. It would be a shame if iOS 11.3 were 
> released to the public with that bug, if that is the case people need to be 
> warned.
> I think given the situation maybe you could post something, tell 
> people to please not reply, but ask anybody who is an iOS 11.3 public 
> beta tester to check this out and to submit Feedback using the 
> Feedback app. The Feedback app is very accessible and pretty easy to 
> use. There is no point sending emails to Apple Accessibility, it's 
> beta software and at least in the past they don't like to receive beta 
> related feedback.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: at sign in Iphone braille input

[Janet Bell]

please can someone tell me when you are using braille input where is the 
backspace and if there is not one how to delete something and also where is the 
line up or down button. and finally do you still swipe right when you are in 
text messages.  sorry but never done this before.  Janet

From: Maria Reyes 
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: at sign in Iphone braille input

Janet,  
Go to Settings > general > Accessibility > VoiceOver then select rotor from the 
menu. Flick until you hear braille screen input then double tap. You should 
have it in your rotor when you go to type. 


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On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:


  please can someone tell me how to get the braille keyboard on an iPhone and 
is there any help you can get to use it and learn keystrokes please?  Janet

  From: Devin Prater 
  Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 3:31 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: at sign in Iphone braille input

  Type dot four, then dot 1.

  Devin Prater
  Assistive Technology Instructor

  
  , Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by 
World Services for the Blind 


On Feb 5, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Dan  wrote:

How do I enter an at sign using braille input on an Iphone?




Thanks.




Dan Beaver



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Re: iOS 11.3 Beta Music Accessibility Alert! Attention All Beta Testers!

[englishrider91]

Yikes! Apple really dropped the ball with this one! I'm not part of the beta 
program, and I only have one current enough iOS device that could even run it, 
so I'm not sure how much help I could realistically be. If there's anything 
non-beta iOS users can do, would you let us know?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Feb 7, 2018, at 9:43 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As a follow-up to Malcolm's beta software notice, Sieghard sent me a very
> compelling email, off-list explaining the details of the iOS 11.3 beta
> software Music app VoiceOver accessibility bug.
> 
> After reading Sieghard's email, I believe this current bug is significant
> enough to be posted to the list if for no other reason than to request that
> all beta testers send feedback on this, immediately..  
> 
> So, rather than paraphrasing Sieghard's email, I am going to paste it in,
> after my signature, for everyone to read.  
> 
> Please follow Sieghard's feedback suggestions if you wish to participate in
> a solution.  Discussing it here, on the list, will not result in any change
> as this is still a beta release.  
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 8:59 PM
> To: mk...@ucla.edu
> Subject: RE: Serious bug in music app in latest beta of iOS 11.3
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Sending this to you. I thought Malcolm might get into minor trouble for
> posting this. However, I am glad he did. I just upgraded to public beta 2 of
> iOS 11.3 and while I am glad I can use Skype again (it crashed each time I
> tried to open it in the initial 11.3 release) this music bug is pretty
> unbelieveable. I just opened the Music app and Malcolm is correct, Voiceover
> reads only "button" and it will then try to identify the text and usually
> succeed, e.g. if I am in my library it will say "possible text playlist" or
> "possible text artist" etc. When I tapped where it said "Artist" it
> continues to read all artists displayed as "button" and again it will
> usually identify by saying, for example, "possible text Air Supply". Of
> course if you go into Air Supply it also doesn't speak the albums and the
> songs and you often have to swipe right and back left before it will
> identify the text so it's all very frustrating and currently I would call
> the Music 95% inaccessible because of this.
> I just submitted a bug report via the Feedback app so hopefully other beta
> testers will do so and hopefully Apple will therefore fix this sooner rather
> than later. It would be a shame if iOS 11.3 were released to the public with
> that bug, if that is the case people need to be warned.
> I think given the situation maybe you could post something, tell people to
> please not reply, but ask anybody who is an iOS 11.3 public beta tester to
> check this out and to submit Feedback using the Feedback app. The Feedback
> app is very accessible and pretty easy to use. There is no point sending
> emails to Apple Accessibility, it's beta software and at least in the past
> they don't like to receive beta related feedback.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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