RE: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play Music for iOS?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mark,



Here an article from a Google search for "Apple Music annual subscription":



Apple Music adds $99 annual subscription option, saving users 
$20/year





Regards,

Sieghard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 11:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?



Hello Sieghard.



I did not know that one could purchase an entire year of Apple Music, at once.  
If this is the case, then I will definitely be subscribing to it as I prefer an 
annual subscription to a monthly one.



Okay, I'll look into it as HomePod is, for whatever reason, my preferred music 
playback speaker.  There's just something about that rich, elegant, 
sophisticated sound that it emits.



Thank you, my friend.



Mark



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:18 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?



Hi Mark,



I know there are a lot of replies to your message and I haven't read them. 
However, let me say this, you bought the HomePod and said you enjoy it a lot. 
Do yourself a favour and buy the Apple Music subscription, I believe if you 
prepay for the entire year it is cheaper than $9.99 a month or maybe it's that 
you can buy a gift card for a 1-year subscription for a reduced price. If you 
like the HomePod as much as you said this will give you absolutely the best 
experience bar none. Being able to simply tell your HomePod what you want to 
listen to beats using another app and Airplay in my humble opinion.



Regards,

Sieghard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:36 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?



Hello Everyone,



Okay, I know I said that I had no plans to subscribe to Apple Music, anytime 
soon but, well, let's just say I'm reconsidering this position.



The primary reason why I didn't feel the need to subscribe to a music service 
is because, once upon a time, one could create custom radio stations based on 
artists, genres, a song title, etc, in iTunes.  Apparently, Apple has now 
restricted this functionality to only Apple Music subscribers.

(smart).



Before I take the subscription plunge, I would like to consider free 
alternatives if for no other reason but that I know that I will use the custom 
selection feature rarely.



So, is anyone using either the free version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?  If so, is it possible to create custom stations based on 
selected criteria?



I'm probably going to end up subscribing to Apple Music but wanted to at least 
put this question out there, in the Ether (smile).



All replies greatly appreciated.



By the way, I'm still loving my HomePod.



Went over to a friend's house today to check out the Amazon Echo.  Wow!  I was 
extremely impressed.



I think I'm going to pick up an Echo Dot and use it at least until my beloved 
Siri can catch up, as I truly think she will, in time-a very, very long, long 
time perhaps, (big smile).  Really enjoyed the audio games that Echo offers.



The way I see it, I will use HomePod for audio playback and personal contact 
features, as they become available, and Echo Dot for fun.



Mark





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RE: Mark on Echo

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mark,

What is your reason for the Echo Plus? It is the same as the Echo but with 
built-in smart hub which is supposed to help connect to various smart home 
devices (if you have them).
We also bought one but when I bought it during the introductory offer here in 
Canada it came with a Philipps Hue bulb so that was a bit of an incentive. So 
far I still have to figure out if that smart home hub is actually doing 
anything, I don't think it does in our case since we also have the 4th gen 
Apple TV which acts as a hub for our smart home devices.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 11:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark on Echo

Hello Everyone,  

Well, today I went over to Best Buy and purchased an Amazon Echo Plus.  Of 
course, I got the black-on-black-on-black, model.  (smile).

I must say that this device is a blast.  

The iOS Alexa app was a breeze to configure and I was up and running in a 
matter of minutes.

Thanks to all of you who replied to my free music iOS app question.  

>From the App Store, I downloaded and created both a free Pandora and iHeart 
>Radio account.  From within the iOS Alexa app, I linked these two accounts to 
>my Echo and wow!  They work marvelously well.  I have exactly what I want with 
>amazing voice control over both.  Alexa is truly incredible.  I love the fact 
>that I can create custom radio stations with my voice, only, via my Echo as 
>the iOS app is not needed.

As I stated in my previous post, I have decided to use HomePod for personal 
contacts, tasks, reminders, etc. but, at this time, I'll be using Alexa for fun 
and random music playback, while using HomePod to play my own personal music 
collection.  

Would you believe it?  After demonstrating my new Echo Plus to some friends who 
had never seen Alexa in action, we went to Best Buy and each of them purchased 
an Echo Dot.  I setup three Dots, today.  So that's 4 Echoes I worked with in 
one day.  (big Smile).  I'm definitely on my way to becoming an Echo guru!!!  
(Big Smile).

How wonderful it is that we have such a marvelously accessible  platform such 
as iOS from which to explore so many new and wonderful devices.  Long live 
Apple Inc and its incredible developers.  Also, kudos to the Amazon Alexa 
development team, as well. 

Mark

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RE: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play Music for iOS?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sieghard.

I did not know that one could purchase an entire year of Apple Music, at once.  
If this is the case, then I will definitely be subscribing to it as I prefer an 
annual subscription to a monthly one.  

Okay, I'll look into it as HomePod is, for whatever reason, my preferred music 
playback speaker.  There's just something about that rich, elegant, 
sophisticated sound that it emits.  

Thank you, my friend.

Mark

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?

Hi Mark,

I know there are a lot of replies to your message and I haven't read them. 
However, let me say this, you bought the HomePod and said you enjoy it a lot. 
Do yourself a favour and buy the Apple Music subscription, I believe if you 
prepay for the entire year it is cheaper than $9.99 a month or maybe it's that 
you can buy a gift card for a 1-year subscription for a reduced price. If you 
like the HomePod as much as you said this will give you absolutely the best 
experience bar none. Being able to simply tell your HomePod what you want to 
listen to beats using another app and Airplay in my humble opinion.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know I said that I had no plans to subscribe to Apple Music, anytime 
soon but, well, let's just say I'm reconsidering this position.  

The primary reason why I didn't feel the need to subscribe to a music service 
is because, once upon a time, one could create custom radio stations based on 
artists, genres, a song title, etc, in iTunes.  Apparently, Apple has now 
restricted this functionality to only Apple Music subscribers.
(smart).

Before I take the subscription plunge, I would like to consider free 
alternatives if for no other reason but that I know that I will use the custom 
selection feature rarely.

So, is anyone using either the free version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?  If so, is it possible to create custom stations based on 
selected criteria?  

I'm probably going to end up subscribing to Apple Music but wanted to at least 
put this question out there, in the Ether (smile).

All replies greatly appreciated.

By the way, I'm still loving my HomePod.

Went over to a friend's house today to check out the Amazon Echo.  Wow!  I was 
extremely impressed.  

I think I'm going to pick up an Echo Dot and use it at least until my beloved 
Siri can catch up, as I truly think she will, in time-a very, very long, long 
time perhaps, (big smile).  Really enjoyed the audio games that Echo offers.

The way I see it, I will use HomePod for audio playback and personal contact 
features, as they become available, and Echo Dot for fun.  

Mark


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Mark on Echo

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,  

Well, today I went over to Best Buy and purchased an Amazon Echo Plus.  Of
course, I got the black-on-black-on-black, model.  (smile).

I must say that this device is a blast.  

The iOS Alexa app was a breeze to configure and I was up and running in a
matter of minutes.

Thanks to all of you who replied to my free music iOS app question.  

>From the App Store, I downloaded and created both a free Pandora and iHeart
Radio account.  From within the iOS Alexa app, I linked these two accounts
to my Echo and wow!  They work marvelously well.  I have exactly what I want
with amazing voice control over both.  Alexa is truly incredible.  I love
the fact that I can create custom radio stations with my voice, only, via my
Echo as the iOS app is not needed.

As I stated in my previous post, I have decided to use HomePod for personal
contacts, tasks, reminders, etc. but, at this time, I'll be using Alexa for
fun and random music playback, while using HomePod to play my own personal
music collection.  

Would you believe it?  After demonstrating my new Echo Plus to some friends
who had never seen Alexa in action, we went to Best Buy and each of them
purchased an Echo Dot.  I setup three Dots, today.  So that's 4 Echoes I
worked with in one day.  (big Smile).  I'm definitely on my way to becoming
an Echo guru!!!  (Big Smile).

How wonderful it is that we have such a marvelously accessible  platform
such as iOS from which to explore so many new and wonderful devices.  Long
live Apple Inc and its incredible developers.  Also, kudos to the Amazon
Alexa development team, as well. 

Mark

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RE: A nice recorder

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Same here, never seen a recorder in Dropbox. I assume he is referring to the 
app RecUp which up until about a year and a half or 2 years ago was called 
"Dropvox", note the spelling with a "v" instead of a "b". However, these two 
apps had absolutely nothing to do with each other in terms of who made them, 
Dropvox or now RecUp is made by a third-party developer who simply chose to 
integrate the recording app to work very seamlessly with Dropbox.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A nice recorder

I'm curious about your statement that Dropbox has its own recorder. I just 
perused all through the Dropbox app and found no recorder.

Were you by chance referencing the recorder which used to be named DropVox but 
is now called RecUp? FYI, this app is from Irradiated Software and is not from 
the Dropbox developer although it does allow direct saving of recordings to 
Dropbox.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Doc wright
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A nice recorder

dropbox has its own recorder.
- Original Message - 
From: "Karen Poulakos" 
To: 
Sent: February 17, 2018 06:24 AM
Subject: RE: A nice recorder


Thanks so much for sharing this.  I have put off updating my phone because I 
didn't want to give up the Voxie Pro recorder.  My favorite feature of that 
app has been  the ability to download recordings directly to my computer. 
I'll be giving this a test run for sure.

Karen P
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Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A nice recorder

A buddy of mine tole me about irecorder. This is a nice app for making
recordings with multiple ways to share a recording including wifi
download which lets you download your recordings if your phone is
connected to the same wifi network as the computer that you're wanting
to use. For example I was able to go to 192.168.1.65:54602 and see a
directory of my recordings with the ability to play from there or
download. It records in m4a and the quality is nice. So I'll use this
one if I want to keep a copy on my phone and recup if I just want to
immediately send it straight to dropbox. I like irecorder because it
will show the date and time that a recording was made. The native voice
memos app only shows the date. You can still send to dropbox and other
places using irecorder.

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RE: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play Music for iOS?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mark,

I know there are a lot of replies to your message and I haven't read them. 
However, let me say this, you bought the HomePod and said you enjoy it a lot. 
Do yourself a favour and buy the Apple Music subscription, I believe if you 
prepay for the entire year it is cheaper than $9.99 a month or maybe it's that 
you can buy a gift card for a 1-year subscription for a reduced price. If you 
like the HomePod as much as you said this will give you absolutely the best 
experience bar none. Being able to simply tell your HomePod what you want to 
listen to beats using another app and Airplay in my humble opinion.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know I said that I had no plans to subscribe to Apple Music, anytime 
soon but, well, let's just say I'm reconsidering this position.  

The primary reason why I didn't feel the need to subscribe to a music service 
is because, once upon a time, one could create custom radio stations based on 
artists, genres, a song title, etc, in iTunes.  Apparently, Apple has now 
restricted this functionality to only Apple Music subscribers.
(smart).

Before I take the subscription plunge, I would like to consider free 
alternatives if for no other reason but that I know that I will use the custom 
selection feature rarely.

So, is anyone using either the free version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?  If so, is it possible to create custom stations based on 
selected criteria?  

I'm probably going to end up subscribing to Apple Music but wanted to at least 
put this question out there, in the Ether (smile).

All replies greatly appreciated.

By the way, I'm still loving my HomePod.

Went over to a friend's house today to check out the Amazon Echo.  Wow!  I was 
extremely impressed.  

I think I'm going to pick up an Echo Dot and use it at least until my beloved 
Siri can catch up, as I truly think she will, in time-a very, very long, long 
time perhaps, (big smile).  Really enjoyed the audio games that Echo offers.

The way I see it, I will use HomePod for audio playback and personal contact 
features, as they become available, and Echo Dot for fun.  

Mark


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RE: An AP For descriptive audio

[Sieghard Weitzel]

ActiView is a joke, it has I think 3 movies and the selection has not changed 
in months.


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Merritt
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An AP For descriptive audio

ActiView was such an app. The problem with these types of apps is that though 
many people want to use them in the theaters instead of the receivers, it seems 
that the apps that have come out, support a very small number of movies. I used 
the Disney Movies Anywhere app in 2016 to see Finding Dory in a theater that 
did not have description. That was an amazing experience and the app just 
worked like it was supposed to. Though Disney promised that one could use it 
for other types of Disney, Pixar, or Star Wars movies, I tried to use it for 
the 2015 Star Wars film on DVD, and it did not work. That app has since been 
discontinued.

Wayne

On 2/17/18, Evan Reese  wrote:
> Yup, we’re having the same problem with our devices in the theater we go to.
> They used to work great, but now, when the jacks to the headphones 
> aren’t cutting out, which is pretty often, the audio track hums and 
> the volume of the description is inaudible when the movie is in a 
> louder section. We’ve told them about it twice now, so we’ll see if 
> they’ve fixed it the next time we go. I’m not all that confident myself.
> Unfortunately, having only an iPad, I probably won’t be able to use 
> the app, unless I can get on the Internet over a wi-fi network in, or 
> near, the theater.
> Still, it would be nice to know about such an app if it exists.
> Evan
>
> From: cwc
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 7:33 PM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: An AP For descriptive audio
>
> I am looking for an AP which will allow me to pick up the descriptive 
> signals when I am in a movie theater featuring descriptive audio.
> I have seen a couple but they only sync up the file on the phone to 
> play it back when you are in the movie theater. I want something that 
> will replace the receivers that they pass out at the theater, because 
> they don't work most of the time.
> I remember Disney was experimenting with one, but I never heard 
> anything else about it.
>
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RE: iPhones and VMNO providers

[Cristóbal]

I agree. MVNOs can be a really good deal. My personal cell is with T-Mobile, 
but my business iPhone is with Ting which runs off of both the Sprint and 
T-Mobile networks and has a pay for what you use structure. I think I paid 
something like $15 on my most recent Ting bill. 
As with anything, shop around and look for the best deal which will best suit 
your needs. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhones and VMNO providers

I have used MVNO's that run on T-Mobile and Verizon. I paid a lot less for my 
service than if I had obtained it from the carrier. On Xfinity mobile, my 
download speeds are 60 MBPS. I would hardly call this a throttle. It is just as 
fast as my home Internet connection. While throttling did happen in the past, 
it is less common now. It is true some advanced features are not available. For 
example, WIFI calling is not provided by Xfinity Mobile but is offered to 
Verizon customers.
This is not an issue for me though because I can call any number in the US and 
Canada on WIFI from Google Hangouts.  Also, Verizon customers can choose their 
ring tone length but Xfinity Mobile customers have a fixed length of 30 
seconds.  These are small matters.
My cell phone bill was $12 last month, a fraction of the cost of Verizon.

Kelly

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>
> Went to get an iPhone today, and it was a bust from AT *sigh* I'm 
> thinking about doing one of the MVNO providers that runs off the AT 
> network.
>
> Anyone tried them? Rumors are they can throdle the network speeds and 
> not all iphone features work.
>
>
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Re: iPhones and VMNO providers

[Kelly Pierce]

I have used MVNO's that run on T-Mobile and Verizon. I paid a lot less
for my service than if I had obtained it from the carrier. On Xfinity
mobile, my download speeds are 60 MBPS. I would hardly call this a
throttle. It is just as fast as my home Internet connection. While
throttling did happen in the past, it is less common now. It is true
some advanced features are not available. For example, WIFI calling is
not provided by Xfinity Mobile but is offered to Verizon customers.
This is not an issue for me though because I can call any number in
the US and Canada on WIFI from Google Hangouts.  Also, Verizon
customers can choose their ring tone length but Xfinity Mobile
customers have a fixed length of 30 seconds.  These are small matters.
My cell phone bill was $12 last month, a fraction of the cost of
Verizon.

Kelly

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> network.
>
> Anyone tried them? Rumors are they can throdle the network speeds and not
> all iphone features work.
>
>
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Re: iPhones and VMNO providers

[Anthony Vece]

It depends on the area where you live. However in most cases you get what you 
pay for and it usually not that good

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:46 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
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> Anyone tried them? Rumors are they can throdle the network speeds and not all 
> iphone features work.
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RE: A nice recorder

[Alan Lemly]

I'm curious about your statement that Dropbox has its own recorder. I just 
perused all through the Dropbox app and found no recorder.

Were you by chance referencing the recorder which used to be named DropVox but 
is now called RecUp? FYI, this app is from Irradiated Software and is not from 
the Dropbox developer although it does allow direct saving of recordings to 
Dropbox.

Alan Lemly

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Doc wright
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dropbox has its own recorder.
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To: 
Sent: February 17, 2018 06:24 AM
Subject: RE: A nice recorder


Thanks so much for sharing this.  I have put off updating my phone because I 
didn't want to give up the Voxie Pro recorder.  My favorite feature of that 
app has been  the ability to download recordings directly to my computer. 
I'll be giving this a test run for sure.

Karen P
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A nice recorder

A buddy of mine tole me about irecorder. This is a nice app for making
recordings with multiple ways to share a recording including wifi
download which lets you download your recordings if your phone is
connected to the same wifi network as the computer that you're wanting
to use. For example I was able to go to 192.168.1.65:54602 and see a
directory of my recordings with the ability to play from there or
download. It records in m4a and the quality is nice. So I'll use this
one if I want to keep a copy on my phone and recup if I just want to
immediately send it straight to dropbox. I like irecorder because it
will show the date and time that a recording was made. The native voice
memos app only shows the date. You can still send to dropbox and other
places using irecorder.

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iPhones and VMNO providers

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

  Hi all:

Went to get an iPhone today, and it was a bust from AT *sigh* I'm
thinking about doing one of the MVNO providers that runs off the AT
network.

Anyone tried them? Rumors are they can throdle the network speeds and not
all iphone features work.

 

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Backing Up My Phone To A Different Computer Than Mine

[Arnold Schmidt]

When I back up my phone to my computer, it does not back up the music that is 
on it that I transfered from my hard drive to my phone, being that the music is 
still on the hard drive and ITunes will restore it from my hard drive. At the 
moment, I can not use my computer to back up my phone. If I use another 
computer to back up my phone, will this almost 44 gig of music be backed up to 
that computer, then restored to my new phone, or will it be lost? I know that 
ICloud does not back it up. Thanks for any information. 

Arnold Schmidt 

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Re: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play Music for iOS?

[Kelly Pierce]

Be careful what you wish for. The high quality sound on spotify is a
bandwidth hog. For my 40 minute work commute, it eats up more than 100
MB of data. Of course, Spotify offers a lower quality setting that
uses a lot less data. If you live in a big city and ride subways like
me, the noise inside the car means that someone is likely not going to
notice much of a difference in sound quality. I only can when I am
wearing my Beats Solo3 headphones, which cup over my entire ear. The
algorithm in Pandora that selects songs is far superior than the one
in Spotify. also check out jango Radio. the app offers unlimited skips
unlike spotify and Pandora, but the music selection in the audomatic
playlist is awful. I go to this app after I have maxed out my skips on
Pandora and Spotify.

Kelly

On 2/19/18, Cristóbal  wrote:
> My understanding is that you get higher quality audio with a paid
> subscription as well. I think they offer a trial if you wish to sample what
> they consider "high quality".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Evan Reese
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google
> Play Music for iOS?
>
> Well, as I said, I wouldn't mind the ads so much, but the sound quality on
> the app I installed was noticeably lower than that of Tune-In.
> Perhaps I am spoiled because I have Hope for Pandora on my laptop, and the
> sound quality of that is very good. The difference between the sound quality
> of my Hope for Pandora and the Pandora app I installed was very noticeable.
> Evan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cristóbal
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google
> Play Music for iOS?
>
> In order to get rid of the adds, you have to subscribe to a plan. For free,
> I can live with a 30 secodn add every now and then. Same goes for sound
> quality. I'm not enough of an audiophile to fuss over quality since I'm
> usually only running Pandora when working out or as background music while
> doing something else anyway.
> As far as the app itself, it's VoiceOver accessible and you can create
> stations with either a genre, artist and I'm assuming song (I've only done
> the first two). Today in fact, I created a station with the German band
> Rammstein. Don't use Spotify, so can't say either way on that.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Evan Reese
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 6:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google
> Play Music for iOS?
>
> Mark,
> I can't answer your question about Pandora for iOS because I got the app for
> my iPad Mini and deleted it shortly thereafter.
> The sound quality was degraded, and I had to listen to advertising. I would
> have been willing to put up with one or the other, (although I would have
> prefered good sound quality and having to listen to ads rather than the
> other way around), but I felt it was just too much to put up with both poor
> sound quality and ads on top of that.
> Evan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play
> Music for iOS?
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Okay, I know I said that I had no plans to subscribe to Apple Music, anytime
> soon but, well, let's just say I'm reconsidering this position.
>
> The primary reason why I didn't feel the need to subscribe to a music
> service is because, once upon a time, one could create custom radio stations
> based on artists, genres, a song title, etc, in iTunes.  Apparently, Apple
> has now restricted this functionality to only Apple Music subscribers.
> (smart).
>
> Before I take the subscription plunge, I would like to consider free
> alternatives if for no other reason but that I know that I will use the
> custom selection feature rarely.
>
> So, is anyone using either the free version of either Pandora or Google Play
> Music for iOS?  If so, is it possible to create custom stations based on
> selected criteria?
>
> I'm probably going to end up subscribing to Apple Music but wanted to at
> least put this question out there, in the Ether (smile).
>
> All replies greatly appreciated.
>
> By the way, I'm still loving my HomePod.
>
> Went over to a friend's house today to check out the Amazon Echo.  Wow!  I
> was extremely impressed.
>
> I think I'm going to pick up an Echo Dot and use it at least until my
> beloved Siri can catch up, as I truly think she will, in time-a very, very
> long, long time perhaps, (big smile).  Really enjoyed the audio games that
> Echo offers.
>
> The way I see it, I will use HomePod 

RE: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play Music for iOS?

[Cristóbal]

My understanding is that you get higher quality audio with a paid subscription 
as well. I think they offer a trial if you wish to sample what they consider 
"high quality". 

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Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?

Well, as I said, I wouldn't mind the ads so much, but the sound quality on the 
app I installed was noticeably lower than that of Tune-In.
Perhaps I am spoiled because I have Hope for Pandora on my laptop, and the 
sound quality of that is very good. The difference between the sound quality of 
my Hope for Pandora and the Pandora app I installed was very noticeable.
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?

In order to get rid of the adds, you have to subscribe to a plan. For free, I 
can live with a 30 secodn add every now and then. Same goes for sound quality. 
I'm not enough of an audiophile to fuss over quality since I'm usually only 
running Pandora when working out or as background music while doing something 
else anyway.
As far as the app itself, it's VoiceOver accessible and you can create stations 
with either a genre, artist and I'm assuming song (I've only done the first 
two). Today in fact, I created a station with the German band Rammstein. Don't 
use Spotify, so can't say either way on that.
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Evan Reese
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?

Mark,
I can't answer your question about Pandora for iOS because I got the app for my 
iPad Mini and deleted it shortly thereafter.
The sound quality was degraded, and I had to listen to advertising. I would 
have been willing to put up with one or the other, (although I would have 
prefered good sound quality and having to listen to ads rather than the other 
way around), but I felt it was just too much to put up with both poor sound 
quality and ads on top of that.
Evan

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know I said that I had no plans to subscribe to Apple Music, anytime 
soon but, well, let's just say I'm reconsidering this position.

The primary reason why I didn't feel the need to subscribe to a music service 
is because, once upon a time, one could create custom radio stations based on 
artists, genres, a song title, etc, in iTunes.  Apparently, Apple has now 
restricted this functionality to only Apple Music subscribers.
(smart).

Before I take the subscription plunge, I would like to consider free 
alternatives if for no other reason but that I know that I will use the custom 
selection feature rarely.

So, is anyone using either the free version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?  If so, is it possible to create custom stations based on 
selected criteria?

I'm probably going to end up subscribing to Apple Music but wanted to at least 
put this question out there, in the Ether (smile).

All replies greatly appreciated.

By the way, I'm still loving my HomePod.

Went over to a friend's house today to check out the Amazon Echo.  Wow!  I was 
extremely impressed.

I think I'm going to pick up an Echo Dot and use it at least until my beloved 
Siri can catch up, as I truly think she will, in time-a very, very long, long 
time perhaps, (big smile).  Really enjoyed the audio games that Echo offers.

The way I see it, I will use HomePod for audio playback and personal contact 
features, as they become available, and Echo Dot for fun.

Mark


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Re: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play Music for iOS?

[Evan Reese]

Well, as I said, I wouldn't mind the ads so much, but the sound quality on 
the app I installed was noticeably lower than that of Tune-In.
Perhaps I am spoiled because I have Hope for Pandora on my laptop, and the 
sound quality of that is very good. The difference between the sound quality 
of my Hope for Pandora and the Pandora app I installed was very noticeable.

Evan

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From: Cristóbal

Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google 
Play Music for iOS?


In order to get rid of the adds, you have to subscribe to a plan. For free, 
I can live with a 30 secodn add every now and then. Same goes for sound 
quality. I'm not enough of an audiophile to fuss over quality since I'm 
usually only running Pandora when working out or as background music while 
doing something else anyway.
As far as the app itself, it's VoiceOver accessible and you can create 
stations with either a genre, artist and I'm assuming song (I've only done 
the first two). Today in fact, I created a station with the German band 
Rammstein. Don't use Spotify, so can't say either way on that.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Evan Reese

Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google 
Play Music for iOS?


Mark,
I can't answer your question about Pandora for iOS because I got the app for 
my iPad Mini and deleted it shortly thereafter.
The sound quality was degraded, and I had to listen to advertising. I would 
have been willing to put up with one or the other, (although I would have 
prefered good sound quality and having to listen to ads rather than the 
other way around), but I felt it was just too much to put up with both poor 
sound quality and ads on top of that.

Evan

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?


Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know I said that I had no plans to subscribe to Apple Music, anytime 
soon but, well, let's just say I'm reconsidering this position.


The primary reason why I didn't feel the need to subscribe to a music 
service is because, once upon a time, one could create custom radio stations 
based on artists, genres, a song title, etc, in iTunes.  Apparently, Apple 
has now restricted this functionality to only Apple Music subscribers.

(smart).

Before I take the subscription plunge, I would like to consider free 
alternatives if for no other reason but that I know that I will use the 
custom selection feature rarely.


So, is anyone using either the free version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?  If so, is it possible to create custom stations based on 
selected criteria?


I'm probably going to end up subscribing to Apple Music but wanted to at 
least put this question out there, in the Ether (smile).


All replies greatly appreciated.

By the way, I'm still loving my HomePod.

Went over to a friend's house today to check out the Amazon Echo.  Wow!  I 
was extremely impressed.


I think I'm going to pick up an Echo Dot and use it at least until my 
beloved Siri can catch up, as I truly think she will, in time-a very, very 
long, long time perhaps, (big smile).  Really enjoyed the audio games that 
Echo offers.


The way I see it, I will use HomePod for audio playback and personal contact 
features, as they become available, and Echo Dot for fun.


Mark


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Re: An AP For descriptive audio

[Wayne Merritt]

ActiView was such an app. The problem with these types of apps is that
though many people want to use them in the theaters instead of the
receivers, it seems that the apps that have come out, support a very
small number of movies. I used the Disney Movies Anywhere app in 2016
to see Finding Dory in a theater that did not have description. That
was an amazing experience and the app just worked like it was supposed
to. Though Disney promised that one could use it for other types of
Disney, Pixar, or Star Wars movies, I tried to use it for the 2015
Star Wars film on DVD, and it did not work. That app has since been
discontinued.

Wayne

On 2/17/18, Evan Reese  wrote:
> Yup, we’re having the same problem with our devices in the theater we go to.
> They used to work great, but now, when the jacks to the headphones aren’t
> cutting out, which is pretty often, the audio track hums and the volume of
> the description is inaudible when the movie is in a louder section. We’ve
> told them about it twice now, so we’ll see if they’ve fixed it the next time
> we go. I’m not all that confident myself.
> Unfortunately, having only an iPad, I probably won’t be able to use the app,
> unless I can get on the Internet over a wi-fi network in, or near, the
> theater.
> Still, it would be nice to know about such an app if it exists.
> Evan
>
> From: cwc
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 7:33 PM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: An AP For descriptive audio
>
> I am looking for an AP which will allow me to pick up the descriptive
> signals when I am in a movie theater featuring descriptive audio.
> I have seen a couple but they only sync up the file on the phone to play it
> back when you are in the movie theater. I want something that will replace
> the receivers that they pass out at the theater, because they don't work
> most of the time.
> I remember Disney was experimenting with one, but I never heard anything
> else about it.
>
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RE: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play Music for iOS?

[sherrywells1157]

I use the free version of Pandora with my Google Home.  The sound on the Google 
Home is very good & the ads are few & far between.  You can ask Pandora to play 
songs by a given artist but what you get is their idea of a radio station for 
that artist.  Frequently I will hear one song by the artist I want for every 5 
songs by others that Pandora deems similar.  You can say thumbs up or down & 
Pandora fine tunes the station a bit to get the sound you like.  This isn’t 
really too bad for free & is a good way to find new artists.  I would like more 
control though so am thinking of subscribing to Google play.

Sherry Wells


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know I said that I had no plans to subscribe to Apple Music, anytime 
soon but, well, let's just say I'm reconsidering this position.

The primary reason why I didn't feel the need to subscribe to a music service 
is because, once upon a time, one could create custom radio stations based on 
artists, genres, a song title, etc, in iTunes.  Apparently, Apple has now 
restricted this functionality to only Apple Music subscribers.
(smart).

Before I take the subscription plunge, I would like to consider free 
alternatives if for no other reason but that I know that I will use the custom 
selection feature rarely.

So, is anyone using either the free version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?  If so, is it possible to create custom stations based on 
selected criteria?

I'm probably going to end up subscribing to Apple Music but wanted to at least 
put this question out there, in the Ether (smile).

All replies greatly appreciated.

By the way, I'm still loving my HomePod.

Went over to a friend's house today to check out the Amazon Echo.  Wow!  I was 
extremely impressed.

I think I'm going to pick up an Echo Dot and use it at least until my beloved 
Siri can catch up, as I truly think she will, in time-a very, very long, long 
time perhaps, (big smile).  Really enjoyed the audio games that Echo offers.

The way I see it, I will use HomePod for audio playback and personal contact 
features, as they become available, and Echo Dot for fun.

Mark


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Re: A nice recorder

[Doc wright]

dropbox has its own recorder.
- Original Message - 
From: "Karen Poulakos" 
To: 
Sent: February 17, 2018 06:24 AM
Subject: RE: A nice recorder


Thanks so much for sharing this.  I have put off updating my phone because I 
didn't want to give up the Voxie Pro recorder.  My favorite feature of that 
app has been  the ability to download recordings directly to my computer. 
I'll be giving this a test run for sure.

Karen P
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Gordon
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A nice recorder

A buddy of mine tole me about irecorder. This is a nice app for making
recordings with multiple ways to share a recording including wifi
download which lets you download your recordings if your phone is
connected to the same wifi network as the computer that you're wanting
to use. For example I was able to go to 192.168.1.65:54602 and see a
directory of my recordings with the ability to play from there or
download. It records in m4a and the quality is nice. So I'll use this
one if I want to keep a copy on my phone and recup if I just want to
immediately send it straight to dropbox. I like irecorder because it
will show the date and time that a recording was made. The native voice
memos app only shows the date. You can still send to dropbox and other
places using irecorder.

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Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

[Doc wright]

I considered the google devices and turned them down due to their not having 
an external speaker port. the amazon echo dot does and it allows me to plug 
into my main stereo or into the line-in jack on my desktop.
- Original Message - 
From: "Russ Kiehne" 
To: 
Sent: February 17, 2018 07:17 AM
Subject: Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...


I hear that the Google Home Max has great sound.

-Original Message- 
From: bpabbo...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

Hello everyone. I just want to tell you that the Google homes do support
Bluetooth streaming from a device. I have my BrailleNote Touch connected to
the one in my dining room. I have my iPhone 7 connected to the one in my
master bedroom.

Just wanted to make this clarification.

Have a wonderful day.

Barry

Sent from Bäry Abbott's  iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> That fortunately is why we do have choices and can buy what suits us after
> doing our homework.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> lenron brown
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...
>
> Then I will take one of the speakers from the brands that gives me the
> features I want, bluetooth streaming happens to be a big one
>
>> On 2/16/18, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> The Google Home line up doesn't support bluetooth, so you're right it
>> would be the same argument. However the smart speakers from Amazon and
>> JBL do support bluetooth, so they would be an option. We're getting a
>> lot of choices in this space, with a lot of features to choose from,
>> and for the most part, they're going to be accessible!
>>
>>
>>> On 02/15/2018 11:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Again, this is an Apple product and it supports Airplay, Airplay 2
>>> when it rolls out. This is a much better streaming option than
>>> bluetooth and for all I know bluetooth streaming could be enabled
>>> down the road anyways. Do Chromecast devices support bluetooth
>>> streaming? Maybe they do, but if they don't it's the same argument.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of lenron brown
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:17 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...
>>>
>>> The fact that it doesn't support bluetooth streaming is a turn off. I
>>> mean the price was already a turn off to me. There are a few cheaper
>>> options that give me a bit more, the sound might not be as good but I
>>> can at least use those devices with equipment I already own.
>>>
 On 2/15/18, M. Taylor  wrote:
 Russ,

 This is great information.

 Thank you for sharing it with us.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
 Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 6:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

 I ran across the following on another list:

 There has been quite a barrage of information and impressions
 concerning the new Apple speaker, the HomePod. Here is a sampling:
 David Woodbridge offers a blog post, 'Playing Around with the
 HomePod
 - My Thoughts and Suggestions,' which includes links to his podcasts
 on the topic:
 http://bit.ly/2EstoMj

 -Original Message-
 From: M. Taylor
 Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:51 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: I Want to Buy a HomePod But, ...

 Hello Everyone,

 I was really considering buying a HOmePod.  However, as I am not
 subscribed to Apple Music nor am I going to subscribe anytime soon,
 I was hoping that the HomePod would have a 3.5mm jack so that I
 could use it with non-apple and/or legacy hardware devices such as
 my iPod Nanno.  What a bummer that it does not have such a port.

 Perhaps I'll wait until the next generation model in hopes that they
 will permit legacy-device attachments.

 Thoughts?

 Mark

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Re: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play Music for iOS?

[Doc wright]

Pandora will allow you to customize stations. You just have to be able to 
endure the commercials.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: February 18, 2018 07:36 PM
Subject: Is Anyone Using the Free Version of either Pandora or Google Play 
Music for iOS?


Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know I said that I had no plans to subscribe to Apple Music, anytime
soon but, well, let's just say I'm reconsidering this position.

The primary reason why I didn't feel the need to subscribe to a music
service is because, once upon a time, one could create custom radio stations
based on artists, genres, a song title, etc, in iTunes.  Apparently, Apple
has now restricted this functionality to only Apple Music subscribers.
(smart).

Before I take the subscription plunge, I would like to consider free
alternatives if for no other reason but that I know that I will use the
custom selection feature rarely.

So, is anyone using either the free version of either Pandora or Google Play
Music for iOS?  If so, is it possible to create custom stations based on
selected criteria?

I'm probably going to end up subscribing to Apple Music but wanted to at
least put this question out there, in the Ether (smile).

All replies greatly appreciated.

By the way, I'm still loving my HomePod.

Went over to a friend's house today to check out the Amazon Echo.  Wow!  I
was extremely impressed.

I think I'm going to pick up an Echo Dot and use it at least until my
beloved Siri can catch up, as I truly think she will, in time-a very, very
long, long time perhaps, (big smile).  Really enjoyed the audio games that
Echo offers.

The way I see it, I will use HomePod for audio playback and personal contact
features, as they become available, and Echo Dot for fun.

Mark


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