Re: big regressions in accessibility facebook messenger

[Donna]

I have the latest versionn of messenger. I can delete conversations without any 
problem. 

Donna
> 
> Hi Davy,
>  
> Which version of Messenger is this? I had an update today, version 190.1. It 
> says the following:
> We have a handful of new features we are planning to introduce in the near 
> future such as colour gradients and a re-skinned interface. We will be 
> rolling this version out gradually over the next few weeks – stay tuned, 
> we'll be back with more soon!
> This version includes several bug fixes and performance improvements.. Thanks 
> for using Messenger.
>  
> I have no problems with deleting messages/conversations in this version.
> When I am on a conversation and I flick down I have the following rotor 
> options:
>  
> Activate, default
> Mute
> Delete
> More
>  
> If I open a conversation and want to delete a specific message in that 
> conversation I can double tap and hold, it makes a bit of a funny sound and 
> the focus usually goes to "Cancel", then if I flick left (cancel is the last 
> item) I get the following:
>  
> Thumbs Down
> Thumbs Up
> Angry Face
> Crying Face
> Surprised face with open mouth
> Grinning face with tightly closed eyes
> Face with heart shaped eyes
> Forward button
> Delete button
> Copy button
> Wave to 
>  
> Interestingly enough I can't find all these options by exploring the screen, 
> when this menu is up I pretty much get "Cancel" wherever I touch the screen, 
> but I can then flick left and eventually get to Forward, Delete and Copy.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
> Cuppens
> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 12:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: big regressions in accessibility facebook messenger
>  
> Hi folks
>  
> It is no longer possible to delete messages in messenger using the rotor 
> tasks. However, you can click on delete message but nothing happens. If you 
> hold and release after the 3 progress beeps you can access the menu for that 
> person but there seems to be no option to delete the conversation.
>  
> For the users of itunes 12.6.3 it makes no sense to roll back to a previous 
> version of the app because when reinstalling the app on your phone you are 
> prompted to update the app otherwise it won’t work anymore.
> Please report this bug to facebook accessibility.
> Regards
> Davy
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RE: big regressions in accessibility facebook messenger

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Davy,

Which version of Messenger is this? I had an update today, version 190.1. It 
says the following:
We have a handful of new features we are planning to introduce in the near 
future such as colour gradients and a re-skinned interface. We will be rolling 
this version out gradually over the next few weeks – stay tuned, we'll be back 
with more soon!
This version includes several bug fixes and performance improvements.. Thanks 
for using Messenger.

I have no problems with deleting messages/conversations in this version.
When I am on a conversation and I flick down I have the following rotor options:

Activate, default
Mute
Delete
More

If I open a conversation and want to delete a specific message in that 
conversation I can double tap and hold, it makes a bit of a funny sound and the 
focus usually goes to "Cancel", then if I flick left (cancel is the last item) 
I get the following:

Thumbs Down
Thumbs Up
Angry Face
Crying Face
Surprised face with open mouth
Grinning face with tightly closed eyes
Face with heart shaped eyes
Forward button
Delete button
Copy button
Wave to 

Interestingly enough I can't find all these options by exploring the screen, 
when this menu is up I pretty much get "Cancel" wherever I touch the screen, 
but I can then flick left and eventually get to Forward, Delete and Copy.

Best regards,
Sieghard




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: big regressions in accessibility facebook messenger

Hi folks

It is no longer possible to delete messages in messenger using the rotor tasks. 
However, you can click on delete message but nothing happens. If you hold and 
release after the 3 progress beeps you can access the menu for that person but 
there seems to be no option to delete the conversation.

For the users of itunes 12.6.3 it makes no sense to roll back to a previous 
version of the app because when reinstalling the app on your phone you are 
prompted to update the app otherwise it won’t work anymore.
Please report this bug to facebook accessibility.
Regards
Davy
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RE: Tell Me When app no longer listing books. Others' experience?

[Alan Lemly]

Thanks, Richard. You did spell it correctly so it does appear the Tell Me When 
app I have has gone the way of the dinosaurs.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 4:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tell Me When app no longer listing books. Others' experience?

 

 

If you go into the app store and search for it now, this is what you get:Tell 
Me When - Expiry reminder for Makeup products, Utilities, (null) ratings Button 

 

 

I think the app has gone away unless I'm not spelling it correctly.

Richard

 

 

 

 

"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 


On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:37 PM, Kathy Kalaluhi  wrote:

Hi Alan 

I just checked my Tell Me When app and discovered the same thing.  When I 
double tap on an author, the page has empty list on it.  It is weird as I just 
used this app like a week ago or two at tops.  I will be disappointed if it is 
not fixed.  I am using IOS 11 whatever on my IPad so I do not think it has 
anything to do with IOS 12 updates.  

Kathy 

 

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 4:00 PM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Tell Me When app no longer listing books. Others' experience?

 

Hi List,

 

I've been using an app called Tell Me When to follow my favorite authors. 
Historically, I've been able to double tap on the name of one of those tracked 
authors and get a list of their books from the Apple iBooks store. Now, each 
author I execute returns a blank screen. I'm wondering what others who use this 
app are experiencing. I know Apple renamed its iBooks to just Books and perhaps 
this is causing the problem but I thought I'd better ask the list to see if 
others are experiencing the same thing I am.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Air pods and multi point?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

One reason why I have not yet shelled out the very high price for the Airpods.
They get very good reviews, I love how they fit and sound, but my Voyager Edge 
works seamlessly between my iPhone and Apple Watch and it amazes me that Apple 
can't do at least as good if not better with their own product.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Dean
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Air pods and multi point?

Hello everyone,
I have no success using my air pods with my iPhone 8 and my Apple Watch series 
4.
Sometimes it works perfectly. I touch the watch and the air pods connect to the 
watch, or I touch the iPhone and it connects to the phone. This is about 10% of 
the time.
Most of the time they connect to the iPhone, ok, but   connection to the watch 
is hit or miss.

Is anyone having success with multi point between an iPhone and and Apple Watch,
If so, how do you do it?

Thanks,
Chuck (mobile)
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RE: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Exactly, and the SE to the XR is another generation leap compared to the 7 to 
the XR.
I am not totally saying you won't notice it, but in my experience I was never 
blown away by how much faster a new phone was compared to my old one.
I think also that as devices get older that even with a new battery or when 
plugged in their performance degrades over time. My Mom still has a second 
generation iPad and that thing really is super slow and I think a lot more so 
than when she first go it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [

With the newer phones we’re probably dealing with the diminishing returns issue 
on processor performance. Especially with VO users like ourselves who don’t’ 
use graphic intensive games or apps.
I do notice a difference in over all performance between my new Xr and my old 
SE, but it’s not like it’s night and day either.

Cristóbal

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Feir
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [

As usual, Sieghard, you display imminent sense. I'm probably happier than Apple 
really wants me to be with my 7. It took until this generation to even reach 
this point of mild interest. Processor speed is the only area where I'd really 
have to disagree with you. I noticed some fairly large improvements going from 
4 to 5S and from 5S to 7. Processor speed makes a noticeable difference when 
you're listening to music, have email, word processing and social media all 
going. They usually check for updates in the background. I found that I could 
have more happpening without things locking up on me which used to be a far 
more frequent occurance. I think part of that is VoiceOver placing demands on 
the processor. I also suspect it might make a difference with navigational apps 
but haven't made good use of those for a long enough period to judge.

Due to a couple of unfortunate business failures, we don't have some of the 
more intensive audio games that used to exist. Papa Sangre and Audio Defence 
really put iPHONEs through their paces. There are some over-priced arcade style 
games around but nothing like what Something Else Ltd brought to us. Story and 
statistic-driven games like Six Ages don't demand much from processors despite 
their complexity.

You're absolutely right when it comes to being caught up in the upgrade frenzy. 
There have been hinge points though. Going to the 64-bit 5S certainly made a 
big difference for me. My 7 was certainly a noticeable improvement but more in 
terms of stability and quicker app switching, openning and closing. A lot of 
little things.


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:46 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi Michael,

Here is my take on some of what you said:

“I have an iPHONE7 and am pretty happy with it. However, I would jump at the XR 
if money were no object.”
I still have my 6S Plus with 64Gb of storage and only using about half. If 
money were no object I’d get an iPhone XS Max with 256Gb or 512Gb, I mean, 
heck, money is no object, right?

“Things have reached the point where I'd actually be interested in the 
improvements to the processor and camera” and “If the camera results in better 
OCR and object recognition, that would also be very helpful.”
The difference in the camera between the iPhone 7 and XR or for that matter 
even between the iPhone 6S and iPhone XS may be of importance when it comes to 
doing fancy photography, but they won’t make a hoot of a difference when it 
comes to OCR. At least that is my opinion, even the camera of the 6S is already 
so good that for simple OCR it is just fine and in fact I sometimes wonder if 
too much detail isn’t actually having a negative effect.
As for processor speed you may notice this in processor intensive games, but 
for every-day tasks the faster processor makes a negligible difference. I have 
often noticed that when I upgraded, e.g. when I upgraded from a 4S to a 5S or 
the 5S to the 6S which always were two-generation jumps that for almost all of 
the day to day stuff I do the increased processor speed was not all that 
noticeable.

“I have 3d Touch disabled and never liked it so that's no great loss.”
Well, 3D Touch is personal preference, I don’t use it a lot but I do use it and 
certainly wouldn’t disable it.

“The audio improvement would be appreciated since I sometimes use my iPHONE 
without AirPods. However, I just can't imagine the speakers sounding good 
enough to remove the need for external Bluetooth speakers for serious listening 
to music or audio dramas.”
Agree here, if I really want to listen to high quality music I don’t even use 
bluetooth, I use my Sonos system or I use my iPhone with my $200 V-Mota wired 
headset if I don’t want to listen out loud.

“I use my iPHONE as 

Re: Removing E-mail from the Mail AP

[Maria Reyes]

I only know that way. There used to be a delete all button at the bottom of the 
screen but it has been removed. 

> On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:47 PM, cwc  wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to delete all mail from the inbox?  I have ben doing it one at 
> a time, but I thought that I saw a way to get rid of everything at once.
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RE: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Same here, all the items I have in Control Centre I can use, activate and they 
do what they are supposed to do.
I have customized the bottom rows to contain the following:

Row 1: Home, Flashlight, Timer, Stopwatch
Row 2: Screen Recording, Notes, Voice Memos, Wallet
Row 3: Apple TV Remote

I can double tap on any of these items and the apps or function opens, in the 
case of Timer the Clock app opens with focus on the Timer Tab, for Stopwatch 
the Clock app opens with focus on the Stopwatch tab.
I can also flick down on any of these, e.g. Timer, to Open Controls and double 
tap, this brings up a context menu so to speak where I can adjust the time 
period and press start, this also works. Not sure why you are having issues 
with this.

Regards,
Sieghard
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

I activated the timer from the control center and it works fine.
I did not have to go to the clock app outside of the control center.
Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 5:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

Hi Sieghard

It is not only about my friend I experience the same, what you say is right. 
The app clock is being opened but if one carries out actions out of the control 
center, the tasks cannot be performed. However carrying out these tasks direct 
from the app clock causes no problem at all.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

Same here, Richard, I put Timer and Stopwatch in my Control Centre as separate 
items, but still both open the Clock app just that you are already on the 
appropriate tab and both work just fine. Not sure what Davy's friends are doing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

On my Work 8 plus, from the Control Center, if I double tap on Timer and set a 
timer and hit start, it works fine.
I can switch to stop watch and it works.
Clock alarm works.
Make sure you have cleared out the app switcher and maybe try again?

Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 6:01 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

Hi folks

I admit I rarely use the control center.
Folks around me report the following: you can nolonger set or change the timer 
or clock in the control center since ios12.1. I tried to reproduce this with my 
iphone 5s and I can reproduce this bug. But maybe before
ios12.1 you could set or change the clock or timer or whatelse? I don't know 
because I never tried it. You can still set the clock or timer in the app 
itselves.
Regards
Davy

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RE: How to roll back to iOS 12.01 ?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is not entirely true, you would have to find out if Apple still signs 
12.0.1 and, if so, find the correct IPSW file for your phone, this is the 2 or 
more Gigabyte full installer and you can then use iTunes to restore it. It is 
not a process anybody should attempt, but as I said, a lot depends on whether 
apple still signs 12.0.1, if not then Michael is correct and you can't go back.

Anyhow, apart from you said about text replacements not working, what else 
seems to be the problem?
I am part of the public beta and just received the first beta of  iOS 12.1.1.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Irons
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What you update there is no going back to Destin!‘s Apple only let you move 
forward. No one can roll back. You’re stuck with what you have

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 2, 2018, at 5:13 AM, Apple Gourmet-  wrote:
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> I recently updated to iOS  12.1 and I am most certainly unhappy with it. Can 
> I roll back to iOS 12.01? Can someone please help me with details on how to 
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RE: Other Than Recent Call VoiceOver Bug, Is There Any Reason Not to Update to iOS 12.1?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Interesting, I don't have nearly this many, but have not noticed any of them 
not working.
Have you submitted this to Apple as feedback?

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Text Replacement —  if you use a lot of text replacements, do not upgrade! I 
have about 500 text replacements. Almost half of them are not working since I 
upgraded to iOS 12Dr Vaid 

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Removing E-mail from the Mail AP

[cwc]

Is there a way to delete all mail from the inbox?  I have ben doing it one 
at a time, but I thought that I saw a way to get rid of everything at once. 

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Re: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[Mike B.]

More energy in a bag of oats!  LOL
Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Subject: RE: IPhone 6s with IOS 12


They could send me a new bale of hay.
Mr. Ed

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Now if Apple could only figure out a few tweaks to make old Mr. Ed run 
faster, maybe one of those $29 battery replacements would help?

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IPhone 6s run great on IOS 12. Runs faster than IOS 11.
Mr. Ed

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I still have an iphone 6s with IOS 11. It runs great and i dont want to 
update if it will slow it down at all. I refuse to upgrade without a home 
button and/or audio port for now at least. Has anyone else updated to IOS12 
on iPhone6s can tell me if it slows it down at all or if there are any bugs 
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RE: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[Mr. Ed]

They could send me a new bale of hay.
Mr. Ed

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Now if Apple could only figure out a few tweaks to make old Mr. Ed run faster, 
maybe one of those $29 battery replacements would help?

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IPhone 6s run great on IOS 12. Runs faster than IOS 11.
Mr. Ed

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I still have an iphone 6s with IOS 11. It runs great and i dont want to update 
if it will slow it down at all. I refuse to upgrade without a home button 
and/or audio port for now at least. Has anyone else updated to IOS12 on 
iPhone6s can tell me if it slows it down at all or if there are any bugs in 
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Air pods and multi point?

[Chuck Dean]

Hello everyone,
I have no success using my air pods with my iPhone 8 and my Apple Watch series 
4.
Sometimes it works perfectly. I touch the watch and the air pods connect to the 
watch, or I touch the iPhone and it connects to the phone. This is about 10% of 
the time.
Most of the time they connect to the iPhone, ok, but   connection to the watch 
is hit or miss.

Is anyone having success with multi point between an iPhone and and Apple Watch,
If so, how do you do it?

Thanks, 

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

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RE: Sync phone with personal computer.

[Carolyn Arnold]

OK, Mark, thanks. It had not been answered. So now, we'll know where to go. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Hello Carolyn,

I'm not certain if your question has already been answered but in order to sync 
your phone to a Windows computer, you must use the iTunes for Windows 
application.

Mark

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Where do we go to sync my phone with my PC? Thanks. 

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

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Re: EFR Codec

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

you have to hit the call button and as nearly as I can tell, it’s supposed to 
improve the transmit audio quality.

From: Casey 
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:09
To: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: EFR Codec

hi is this for your cell phone?

And after you hit that code do you hit send or just dial the code that you gave 
and what does this do if you are able to use it?





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  Are any of you on AT able to enable the Enhanced Full Rate Codec? *3370# 
Followed by the call button? Mainly just curious.
  Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: Tell Me When app no longer listing books. Others' experience?

[Richard Turner]

If you go into the app store and search for it now, this is what you get:Tell 
Me When - Expiry reminder for Makeup products, Utilities, (null) ratings Button


I think the app has gone away unless I'm not spelling it correctly.
Richard





"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:37 PM, Kathy Kalaluhi 
mailto:kathyka...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi Alan
I just checked my Tell Me When app and discovered the same thing.  When I 
double tap on an author, the page has empty list on it.  It is weird as I just 
used this app like a week ago or two at tops.  I will be disappointed if it is 
not fixed.  I am using IOS 11 whatever on my IPad so I do not think it has 
anything to do with IOS 12 updates.
Kathy

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Subject: Tell Me When app no longer listing books. Others' experience?

Hi List,

I've been using an app called Tell Me When to follow my favorite authors. 
Historically, I've been able to double tap on the name of one of those tracked 
authors and get a list of their books from the Apple iBooks store. Now, each 
author I execute returns a blank screen. I'm wondering what others who use this 
app are experiencing. I know Apple renamed its iBooks to just Books and perhaps 
this is causing the problem but I thought I'd better ask the list to see if 
others are experiencing the same thing I am.

Thanks in advance.

Alan Lemly
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RE: Tell Me When app no longer listing books. Others' experience?

[Kathy Kalaluhi]

Hi Alan 

I just checked my Tell Me When app and discovered the same thing.  When I 
double tap on an author, the page has empty list on it.  It is weird as I just 
used this app like a week ago or two at tops.  I will be disappointed if it is 
not fixed.  I am using IOS 11 whatever on my IPad so I do not think it has 
anything to do with IOS 12 updates.  

Kathy 

 

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 4:00 PM
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Subject: Tell Me When app no longer listing books. Others' experience?

 

Hi List,

 

I've been using an app called Tell Me When to follow my favorite authors. 
Historically, I've been able to double tap on the name of one of those tracked 
authors and get a list of their books from the Apple iBooks store. Now, each 
author I execute returns a blank screen. I'm wondering what others who use this 
app are experiencing. I know Apple renamed its iBooks to just Books and perhaps 
this is causing the problem but I thought I'd better ask the list to see if 
others are experiencing the same thing I am.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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Tell Me When app no longer listing books. Others' experience?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I've been using an app called Tell Me When to follow my favorite authors.
Historically, I've been able to double tap on the name of one of those
tracked authors and get a list of their books from the Apple iBooks store.
Now, each author I execute returns a blank screen. I'm wondering what others
who use this app are experiencing. I know Apple renamed its iBooks to just
Books and perhaps this is causing the problem but I thought I'd better ask
the list to see if others are experiencing the same thing I am.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Different VoiceOver Voices for Apple Watch 3?

[Wayne Merritt]

Though there is no other English US voice, you can change the language
and get different voices, such as Karen for the English Australian
voice, or Daniel for the UK English voice, etc.

Wayne

On 11/2/18, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> Unfortunately, there is no way to change the VO voice. Samantha is what we
> get. Siri can change with your phone if you change from female to male or
> whatever. Have a great day!
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Nov 2, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Jim Portillo  wrote:
>>
>> Howdy!
>>
>> Does anyone know if the VO voice can be changed on the Apple Watch
>> series 3?  I've been going through the settings area on both the watch
>> and phone and can't seem to find a way.  If there's only that default
>> voice, then so be it.  I just wanted to see if this was doable.
>> Your wealth of knowledge is fantastic!
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big regressions in accessibility facebook messenger

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks 

It is no longer possible to delete messages in messenger using the rotor tasks. 
However, you can click on delete message but nothing happens. If you hold and 
release after the 3 progress beeps you can access the menu for that person but 
there seems to be no option to delete the conversation.

For the users of itunes 12.6.3 it makes no sense to roll back to a previous 
version of the app because when reinstalling the app on your phone you are 
prompted to update the app otherwise it won’t work anymore.
Please report this bug to facebook accessibility.
Regards
Davy 

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RE: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hello, 
I don't remember ever seeing the keychain feature on my phone though, so I need 
to look in iCloud to find this feature? 
Thank you.  
Janet 




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.

It depends if you back up your keychain to iCloud. If you do, it backs
up your wifi settings and passwords. If you are concerned about
network security, unchek the keychain backup in iCloud settings.

Kelly

On 11/2/18, janet gross  wrote:
> HI Dave,
> Wow, I guess I'm better than I thought!  Smile!  The rep who helped me from
> my phone carrier also said when I go home, I would only have to enter my
> network as well as my password, but this is fine with me.  You get no
> argument from me, the easier it is the more I like it!  LOL!
>
> Janet
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dave
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.
>
> Hi Janet. in a way, you have answered your own question.
>
> when you grabbed your settings from your old phone, it also got your WiFi
> settings.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: janet gross
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 2:57 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Because I now have my new phone, and I am going through it to check all the
>
> settings.  One question is I didn't have to set up WI-Fi by entering my WIFI
>
> password or network key when I brought the phone home.  Although, it is
> saying 3 of 3 WI-FI bars is on in the status bar on my phone.  Does this
> sound right? I always thought I would have to enter my WI-Fi network key as
>
> well as the password though.
> My phone carrier and I transferred all the settings from my old phone to my
>
> new phone though, but like I said I still thought when I came home I would
> have to enter the network key as well as the password.
> So can someone please tell me what I am misunderstanding here?
>
> Thank you all in advance.
> Janet
>
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Re: Siri and watch problem

[Jennie Facer]

I I am having the same problem. Not sure what it is though.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Nov 1, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Tom  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I actually did try that.  I also updated the software last night.
>  
> It’s kind of strange.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 3:24 PM
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> Subject: Re: Siri and watch problem
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Have you tried restarting and resetting the watch? I would try those things, 
> in that order, to see if they solve the problem. To restart, hold down the 
> side button until the watch vibrates, then double-tap the Power Off button. 
> Wait a couple of minutes to make sure it has shut down, and then press the 
> side button and hold it for several seconds.
>  
> If that doesn't help, reset the watch by holding down the digital crown and 
> side button for 10 seconds or so.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 1, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Tom  wrote:
>  
> Hello,
>  
> I am very sorry for asking many questions.  I know sometimes people find it 
> annoying, but I am trying to figure things out as I go.
> However, this is something fairly new that I have not encountered and that I 
> don’t understand.
> I’ve had my watch for several months and have been able to use it just fine.  
> However, now, when I try to reply to a text using dictation, nothing seems to 
> happen.  I double tap on the dictate button and then I speak, and then I 
> double tap when I’m finished.  When I try and listen back to what I dictated, 
> it’s as if nothing got dictated.  It’s blank.
> There is also a new-ish issue of my watch not always recognizing that Siri is 
> trying to be used.  It lets me know that my watch and phone cannot use or 
> connect to Siri.  I know this isn’t true, because my phone uses Siri just 
> fine.  I’ve not messed at all with my watch’s Siri settings and can’t 
> understand why all of a sudden, my watch won’t respond when I try and use 
> Siri.
> Finally, the Raise arm feature doesn’t work to automatically give me the 
> time.  The settings are fine, but it doesn’t seem to work.
> I wonder if I need to completely reset the watch to factory settings, but 
> since I’ve not done it before, I wonder what problems that could cause.
>  
> Any ideas or suggestions?
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Re: Different VoiceOver Voices for Apple Watch 3?

[Jennie Facer]

Unfortunately, there is no way to change the VO voice. Samantha is what we get. 
Siri can change with your phone if you change from female to male or whatever. 
Have a great day!

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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> Howdy!
> 
> Does anyone know if the VO voice can be changed on the Apple Watch
> series 3?  I've been going through the settings area on both the watch
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> Your wealth of knowledge is fantastic!
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RE: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [

[janet gross]

HI Cristóbal and All,
Yes, I have to agree with you when you say: you do notice a difference in 
overall performance between your new Xr and your old SE, but it’s not like it’s 
night and day either.  I’m coming from a phone 6 to a xr in which the phone 6 
either over heated or caught fire because the total front screen was completely 
coming off, and whenever I opened an app, aw man, my phone would get extremely 
hot, to the point I wouldn’t even hold it in my hands.  Matter of fact, I had 
to keep putting my phone on a cool  surface, and wait for several minutes for 
the phone to cool down.  Matter of fact, my phone carrier at the last minute 
decided they didn’t want my old phone because it was so badly damaged, but they 
still gave me a $250 credit.  No one wants my old phone!  LOL!
Now, don’t get me wrong, my new phone xr is a nice phone, but I just don’t see 
a huge difference or not as of yet, but I’ve only had it since yesterday, so I 
am still trying to get used to it though.
Janet




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [

With the newer phones we’re probably dealing with the diminishing returns issue 
on processor performance. Especially with VO users like ourselves who don’t’ 
use graphic intensive games or apps.
I do notice a difference in over all performance between my new Xr and my old 
SE, but it’s not like it’s night and day either.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [

As usual, Sieghard, you display imminent sense. I'm probably happier than Apple 
really wants me to be with my 7. It took until this generation to even reach 
this point of mild interest. Processor speed is the only area where I'd really 
have to disagree with you. I noticed some fairly large improvements going from 
4 to 5S and from 5S to 7. Processor speed makes a noticeable difference when 
you're listening to music, have email, word processing and social media all 
going. They usually check for updates in the background. I found that I could 
have more happpening without things locking up on me which used to be a far 
more frequent occurance. I think part of that is VoiceOver placing demands on 
the processor. I also suspect it might make a difference with navigational apps 
but haven't made good use of those for a long enough period to judge.

Due to a couple of unfortunate business failures, we don't have some of the 
more intensive audio games that used to exist. Papa Sangre and Audio Defence 
really put iPHONEs through their paces. There are some over-priced arcade style 
games around but nothing like what Something Else Ltd brought to us. Story and 
statistic-driven games like Six Ages don't demand much from processors despite 
their complexity.

You're absolutely right when it comes to being caught up in the upgrade frenzy. 
There have been hinge points though. Going to the 64-bit 5S certainly made a 
big difference for me. My 7 was certainly a noticeable improvement but more in 
terms of stability and quicker app switching, openning and closing. A lot of 
little things.


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:46 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi Michael,

Here is my take on some of what you said:

“I have an iPHONE7 and am pretty happy with it. However, I would jump at the XR 
if money were no object.”
I still have my 6S Plus with 64Gb of storage and only using about half. If 
money were no object I’d get an iPhone XS Max with 256Gb or 512Gb, I mean, 
heck, money is no object, right?

“Things have reached the point where I'd actually be interested in the 
improvements to the processor and camera” and “If the camera results in better 
OCR and object recognition, that would also be very helpful.”
The difference in the camera between the iPhone 7 and XR or for that matter 
even between the iPhone 6S and iPhone XS may be of importance when it comes to 
doing fancy photography, but they won’t make a hoot of a difference when it 
comes to OCR. At least that is my opinion, even the camera of the 6S is already 
so good that for simple OCR it is just fine and in fact I sometimes wonder if 
too much detail isn’t actually having a negative effect.
As for processor speed you may notice this in processor intensive games, but 
for every-day tasks the faster processor makes a negligible difference. I have 
often noticed that when I upgraded, e.g. when I upgraded from a 4S to a 5S or 
the 5S to the 6S which always were two-generation jumps that for almost all of 
the day to day stuff I do the increased processor speed was not all that 
noticeable.

“I have 3d Touch disabled and never liked it so that's no great loss.”
Well, 3D Touch is personal preference, I don’t 

Re: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.

[Kelly Pierce]

It depends if you back up your keychain to iCloud. If you do, it backs
up your wifi settings and passwords. If you are concerned about
network security, unchek the keychain backup in iCloud settings.

Kelly

On 11/2/18, janet gross  wrote:
> HI Dave,
> Wow, I guess I'm better than I thought!  Smile!  The rep who helped me from
> my phone carrier also said when I go home, I would only have to enter my
> network as well as my password, but this is fine with me.  You get no
> argument from me, the easier it is the more I like it!  LOL!
>
> Janet
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dave
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.
>
> Hi Janet. in a way, you have answered your own question.
>
> when you grabbed your settings from your old phone, it also got your WiFi
> settings.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: janet gross
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 2:57 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Because I now have my new phone, and I am going through it to check all the
>
> settings.  One question is I didn't have to set up WI-Fi by entering my WIFI
>
> password or network key when I brought the phone home.  Although, it is
> saying 3 of 3 WI-FI bars is on in the status bar on my phone.  Does this
> sound right? I always thought I would have to enter my WI-Fi network key as
>
> well as the password though.
> My phone carrier and I transferred all the settings from my old phone to my
>
> new phone though, but like I said I still thought when I came home I would
> have to enter the network key as well as the password.
> So can someone please tell me what I am misunderstanding here?
>
> Thank you all in advance.
> Janet
>
>
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Different VoiceOver Voices for Apple Watch 3?

[Jim Portillo]

Howdy!

Does anyone know if the VO voice can be changed on the Apple Watch
series 3?  I've been going through the settings area on both the watch
and phone and can't seem to find a way.  If there's only that default
voice, then so be it.  I just wanted to see if this was doable.
Your wealth of knowledge is fantastic!
Jim Portillo

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RE: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [

[Cristobal Muñoz]

With the newer phones we’re probably dealing with the diminishing returns issue 
on processor performance. Especially with VO users like ourselves who don’t’ 
use graphic intensive games or apps. 

I do notice a difference in over all performance between my new Xr and my old 
SE, but it’s not like it’s night and day either. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [

 

As usual, Sieghard, you display imminent sense. I'm probably happier than Apple 
really wants me to be with my 7. It took until this generation to even reach 
this point of mild interest. Processor speed is the only area where I'd really 
have to disagree with you. I noticed some fairly large improvements going from 
4 to 5S and from 5S to 7. Processor speed makes a noticeable difference when 
you're listening to music, have email, word processing and social media all 
going. They usually check for updates in the background. I found that I could 
have more happpening without things locking up on me which used to be a far 
more frequent occurance. I think part of that is VoiceOver placing demands on 
the processor. I also suspect it might make a difference with navigational apps 
but haven't made good use of those for a long enough period to judge.

 

Due to a couple of unfortunate business failures, we don't have some of the 
more intensive audio games that used to exist. Papa Sangre and Audio Defence 
really put iPHONEs through their paces. There are some over-priced arcade style 
games around but nothing like what Something Else Ltd brought to us. Story and 
statistic-driven games like Six Ages don't demand much from processors despite 
their complexity.

 

You're absolutely right when it comes to being caught up in the upgrade frenzy. 
There have been hinge points though. Going to the 64-bit 5S certainly made a 
big difference for me. My 7 was certainly a noticeable improvement but more in 
terms of stability and quicker app switching, openning and closing. A lot of 
little things. 

 

 

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:46 PM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hi Michael,

 

Here is my take on some of what you said:

 

“I have an iPHONE7 and am pretty happy with it. However, I would jump at the XR 
if money were no object.”

I still have my 6S Plus with 64Gb of storage and only using about half. If 
money were no object I’d get an iPhone XS Max with 256Gb or 512Gb, I mean, 
heck, money is no object, right?

 

“Things have reached the point where I'd actually be interested in the 
improvements to the processor and camera” and “If the camera results in better 
OCR and object recognition, that would also be very helpful.”

The difference in the camera between the iPhone 7 and XR or for that matter 
even between the iPhone 6S and iPhone XS may be of importance when it comes to 
doing fancy photography, but they won’t make a hoot of a difference when it 
comes to OCR. At least that is my opinion, even the camera of the 6S is already 
so good that for simple OCR it is just fine and in fact I sometimes wonder if 
too much detail isn’t actually having a negative effect.

As for processor speed you may notice this in processor intensive games, but 
for every-day tasks the faster processor makes a negligible difference. I have 
often noticed that when I upgraded, e.g. when I upgraded from a 4S to a 5S or 
the 5S to the 6S which always were two-generation jumps that for almost all of 
the day to day stuff I do the increased processor speed was not all that 
noticeable.

 

“I have 3d Touch disabled and never liked it so that's no great loss.”

Well, 3D Touch is personal preference, I don’t use it a lot but I do use it and 
certainly wouldn’t disable it.

 

“The audio improvement would be appreciated since I sometimes use my iPHONE 
without AirPods. However, I just can't imagine the speakers sounding good 
enough to remove the need for external Bluetooth speakers for serious listening 
to music or audio dramas.”

Agree here, if I really want to listen to high quality music I don’t even use 
bluetooth, I use my Sonos system or I use my iPhone with my $200 V-Mota wired 
headset if I don’t want to listen out loud.

 

“I use my iPHONE as a full computer doing everything from writing to games to 
listening so having faster better processor capability would serve me well.”

Again this goes back to what I already said about processor speed. I have a 
business and there is absolutely no way I could get along with just an iPhone 
since I have to do a lot of work with Excel spreadsheets, accounting and point 
of sale software and all in all I need a computer and a keyboard to efficiently 
do what I have to do. I think even efficient browsing the web is just so much 
easier and faster with a computer so for me that is not a concern, but 
certainly I would venture that it 

iPhone battery life getting worse – a trend likely to continue, says report

[Mary Otten]

Interesting. The XR is the one exception to this trend.

iPhone battery life getting worse – a trend likely to continue, says report
9to5Mac  /  Ben Lovejoy


Tests carried out by the Washington Post, CNET, Consumer Reports and Tom’s 
Guide suggest that iPhone battery-life is mostly getting worse with each 
successive generation.

Experts believe that’s a trend likely to continue for some time yet …

It’s not a problem specific to iPhones, says the Washington Post, but something 
seen with Android flagships too.

For the last few weeks, I’ve been performing the same battery test over and 
over again on 13 phones. With a few notable exceptions, this year’s top models 
underperformed last year’s. The new iPhone XS died 21 minutes earlier than last 
year’s iPhone X. Google’s Pixel 3 lasted nearly an hour and a half less than 
its Pixel 2.

There is one exception on the iPhone front: the iPhone XR, with its LCD screen, 
offered the best battery-life of all. But the results otherwise show a gradual 
decline.

The battery-life of the iPhone X was slightly worse than the iPhone 8. The 
iPhone XS didn’t last as long as the previous year’s iPhone X. And the iPhone 
XS Max – despite having the largest battery Apple has ever put into an iPhone – 
didn’t last quite as long as the iPhone 8 Plus.

That’s in direct contradiction to Apple’s claim that the iPhone XS ‘lasts up to 
30 minutes longer than iPhone X,’ but the problem there, says the piece, is 
that there are no agreed standards.

The Post’s Geoffrey Fowler was so surprised by his results he asked other sites 
to confirm.

I called up a squad of other tech journalists also obsessed with testing at 
CNET, Tom’s Guide and Consumer Reports. “Our overall average battery life is 
coming down,” says Mark Spoonauer, the editor in chief of Tom’s Guide, who also 
found the iPhone XS battery died sooner than the iPhone X. Many of the phones 
with the longest battery life, he adds, are a year old.

One industry expert says that’s not surprising. The iPhone XS does have a 
marginally smaller capacity battery than the iPhone X, but that’s not the 
problem.

[There’s] an open secret in the industry: the lithium-ion batteries in 
smartphones are hitting an inflection point where they simply can’t keep up.

“Batteries improve at a very slow pace, about 5 percent per year,” says Nadim 
Maluf, the CEO of a Silicon Valley firm called Qnovo that helps optimize 
batteries. “But phone power consumption is growing up faster than 5 percent” […]

And the phone power situation is likely about to get worse. New ultrafast 
wireless technology called 5G, coming to the U.S. neighborhoods soon, will make 
even greater demands on our beleaguered batteries.

Apple puts a lot of work into power optimization, but it’s not quite keeping up 
with the power demands of the performance increases.

What can you do to extend your battery-life, short of using your phone less? 
The main tips are to reduce screen brightness and to use Wi-Fi over LTE where 
possible.

In the tests, which made the phones surf the web constantly, the iPhone results 
were:

iPhone XR: 12h 25m
iPhone 8 Plus: 10h 10m
iPhone XS Max: 10h 06m
iPhone 8: 9h 51m
iPhone X: 9h 30m
iPhone XS: 9h 09m
The iPhone XR also beat out all the Android flagships tested, with Samsung’s 
Note 9 taking second place.

Until the oft-promised battery technology breakthrough delivers results, it 
looks like Apple’s obsession with performance boosts means we can expect a 
continued gradual decline in battery-life for some time yet.

Photo: Shutterstock

Check out 9to5Mac on YouTube for more Apple news:





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Re: Moving to Doc with Braille Display

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Traci,

The first time I tried this, I heard a beep and nothing happened. But it's 
worked normally ever since. I'm using a Focus 40 Blue, not the current 
generation, but the one just before it.

Best,
Anna




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Moving to Doc with Braille Display

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, could some of you try this? Space bar and dots-456 when you are on the 
home screen to move to the last item. This usually takes you to the Doc. The 
very right icon in the Doc.

Just recently, I am unable to get there this way.

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: EFR Codec

[Casey]

hi is this for your cell phone?

And after you hit that code do you hit send or just dial the code that 
you gave and what does this do if you are able to use it?




On 11/2/2018 9:24 AM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone wrote:
Are any of you on AT able to enable the Enhanced Full Rate Codec? 
*3370# Followed by the call button? Mainly just curious.

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RE: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.

[janet gross]

HI Dave, 
Wow, I guess I'm better than I thought!  Smile!  The rep who helped me from my 
phone carrier also said when I go home, I would only have to enter my network 
as well as my password, but this is fine with me.  You get no argument from me, 
the easier it is the more I like it!  LOL!  

Janet 
Thank you.  



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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.

Hi Janet. in a way, you have answered your own question.

when you grabbed your settings from your old phone, it also got your WiFi 
settings.

Dave.


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From: janet gross
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 2:57 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Because I now have my new phone, and I am going through it to check all the 
settings.  One question is I didn't have to set up WI-Fi by entering my WIFI 
password or network key when I brought the phone home.  Although, it is 
saying 3 of 3 WI-FI bars is on in the status bar on my phone.  Does this 
sound right? I always thought I would have to enter my WI-Fi network key as 
well as the password though.
My phone carrier and I transferred all the settings from my old phone to my 
new phone though, but like I said I still thought when I came home I would 
have to enter the network key as well as the password.
So can someone please tell me what I am misunderstanding here?

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Re: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.

[Dave]

Hi Janet. in a way, you have answered your own question.

when you grabbed your settings from your old phone, it also got your WiFi 
settings.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross

Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 2:57 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Because I now have my new phone, and I am going through it to check all the 
settings.  One question is I didn't have to set up WI-Fi by entering my WIFI 
password or network key when I brought the phone home.  Although, it is 
saying 3 of 3 WI-FI bars is on in the status bar on my phone.  Does this 
sound right? I always thought I would have to enter my WI-Fi network key as 
well as the password though.
My phone carrier and I transferred all the settings from my old phone to my 
new phone though, but like I said I still thought when I came home I would 
have to enter the network key as well as the password.

So can someone please tell me what I am misunderstanding here?

Thank you all in advance.
Janet




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New Phone and WI-FI Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
Because I now have my new phone, and I am going through it to check all the 
settings.  One question is I didn't have to set up WI-Fi by entering my WIFI 
password or network key when I brought the phone home.  Although, it is saying 
3 of 3 WI-FI bars is on in the status bar on my phone.  Does this sound right? 
I always thought I would have to enter my WI-Fi network key as well as the 
password though.
My phone carrier and I transferred all the settings from my old phone to my new 
phone though, but like I said I still thought when I came home I would have to 
enter the network key as well as the password.
So can someone please tell me what I am misunderstanding here?

Thank you all in advance.
Janet




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EFR Codec

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

Are any of you on AT able to enable the Enhanced Full Rate Codec? *3370# 
Followed by the call button? Mainly just curious.
Ray T. Mahorney
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RE: Mail app that can handle distribution lists?

[Richard Turner]

A2Z is fabulous and worth the price.
Richard



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From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mail app that can handle distribution lists?

A2ZCONTACTS is excellent for this. You need to pay for the upgrade version in 
order to use large mailing lists.
Harry

On 1 Nov 2018, at 16:57, Cristobal Muñoz 
mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello list,
So for the most part, I’m a native mail app user with Gmail for a separate app 
where I need push notifications available not just on wireless.
I’ve got over 400 contacts with some distribution lists for mass emailing. Thus 
I’m looking for an app that can work with distribution lists since it seems 
that the native mail app doesn’t do this.
Can anyone recommend anything? I don’t’ want to start adding my email accounts 
to this and that app just to see if this feature works.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Cristóbal

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RE: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

[Richard Turner]

I activated the timer from the control center and it works fine.
I did not have to go to the clock app outside of the control center.
Richard



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Subject: Re: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

Hi Sieghard

It is not only about my friend I experience the same, what you say is right. 
The app clock is being opened but if one carries out actions out of the control 
center, the tasks cannot be performed. However carrying out these tasks direct 
from the app clock causes no problem at all.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:47 PM
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Subject: RE: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

Same here, Richard, I put Timer and Stopwatch in my Control Centre as separate 
items, but still both open the Clock app just that you are already on the 
appropriate tab and both work just fine. Not sure what Davy's friends are doing.

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Subject: RE: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

On my Work 8 plus, from the Control Center, if I double tap on Timer and set a 
timer and hit start, it works fine.
I can switch to stop watch and it works.
Clock alarm works.
Make sure you have cleared out the app switcher and maybe try again?

Richard



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Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 6:01 AM
To: viphone 
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Hi folks

I admit I rarely use the control center.
Folks around me report the following: you can nolonger set or change the timer 
or clock in the control center since ios12.1. I tried to reproduce this with my 
iphone 5s and I can reproduce this bug. But maybe before
ios12.1 you could set or change the clock or timer or whatelse? I don't know 
because I never tried it. You can still set the clock or timer in the app 
itselves.
Regards
Davy

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Re: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi Sieghard

It is not only about my friend I experience the same, what you say is right. 
The app clock is being opened but if one carries out actions out of the 
control center, the tasks cannot be performed. However carrying out these 
tasks direct from the app clock causes no problem at all.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

Same here, Richard, I put Timer and Stopwatch in my Control Centre as 
separate items, but still both open the Clock app just that you are already 
on the appropriate tab and both work just fine. Not sure what Davy's friends 
are doing.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

On my Work 8 plus, from the Control Center, if I double tap on Timer and set 
a timer and hit start, it works fine.

I can switch to stop watch and it works.
Clock alarm works.
Make sure you have cleared out the app switcher and maybe try again?

Richard



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens

Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 6:01 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: possible control center bug in ios12.1?

Hi folks

I admit I rarely use the control center.
Folks around me report the following: you can nolonger set or change the 
timer or clock in the control center since ios12.1. I tried to reproduce 
this with my iphone 5s and I can reproduce this bug. But maybe before 
ios12.1 you could set or change the clock or timer or whatelse? I don't know 
because I never tried it. You can still set the clock or timer in the app 
itselves.

Regards
Davy

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Re: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [

[Michael Feir]

As usual, Sieghard, you display imminent sense. I'm probably happier than
Apple really wants me to be with my 7. It took until this generation to
even reach this point of mild interest. Processor speed is the only area
where I'd really have to disagree with you. I noticed some fairly large
improvements going from 4 to 5S and from 5S to 7. Processor speed makes a
noticeable difference when you're listening to music, have email, word
processing and social media all going. They usually check for updates in
the background. I found that I could have more happpening without things
locking up on me which used to be a far more frequent occurance. I think
part of that is VoiceOver placing demands on the processor. I also suspect
it might make a difference with navigational apps but haven't made good use
of those for a long enough period to judge.

Due to a couple of unfortunate business failures, we don't have some of the
more intensive audio games that used to exist. Papa Sangre and Audio
Defence really put iPHONEs through their paces. There are some over-priced
arcade style games around but nothing like what Something Else Ltd brought
to us. Story and statistic-driven games like Six Ages don't demand much
from processors despite their complexity.

You're absolutely right when it comes to being caught up in the upgrade
frenzy. There have been hinge points though. Going to the 64-bit 5S
certainly made a big difference for me. My 7 was certainly a noticeable
improvement but more in terms of stability and quicker app switching,
openning and closing. A lot of little things.


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:46 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
>
>
> Here is my take on some of what you said:
>
>
>
> “I have an iPHONE7 and am pretty happy with it. However, I would jump at
> the XR if money were no object.”
>
> I still have my 6S Plus with 64Gb of storage and only using about half. If
> money were no object I’d get an iPhone XS Max with 256Gb or 512Gb, I mean,
> heck, money is no object, right?
>
>
>
> “Things have reached the point where I'd actually be interested in the
> improvements to the processor and camera” and “If the camera results in
> better OCR and object recognition, that would also be very helpful.”
>
> The difference in the camera between the iPhone 7 and XR or for that
> matter even between the iPhone 6S and iPhone XS may be of importance when
> it comes to doing fancy photography, but they won’t make a hoot of a
> difference when it comes to OCR. At least that is my opinion, even the
> camera of the 6S is already so good that for simple OCR it is just fine and
> in fact I sometimes wonder if too much detail isn’t actually having a
> negative effect.
>
> As for processor speed you may notice this in processor intensive games,
> but for every-day tasks the faster processor makes a negligible difference.
> I have often noticed that when I upgraded, e.g. when I upgraded from a 4S
> to a 5S or the 5S to the 6S which always were two-generation jumps that for
> almost all of the day to day stuff I do the increased processor speed was
> not all that noticeable.
>
>
>
> “I have 3d Touch disabled and never liked it so that's no great loss.”
>
> Well, 3D Touch is personal preference, I don’t use it a lot but I do use
> it and certainly wouldn’t disable it.
>
>
>
> “The audio improvement would be appreciated since I sometimes use my
> iPHONE without AirPods. However, I just can't imagine the speakers sounding
> good enough to remove the need for external Bluetooth speakers for serious
> listening to music or audio dramas.”
>
> Agree here, if I really want to listen to high quality music I don’t even
> use bluetooth, I use my Sonos system or I use my iPhone with my $200 V-Mota
> wired headset if I don’t want to listen out loud.
>
>
>
> “I use my iPHONE as a full computer doing everything from writing to games
> to listening so having faster better processor capability would serve me
> well.”
>
> Again this goes back to what I already said about processor speed. I have
> a business and there is absolutely no way I could get along with just an
> iPhone since I have to do a lot of work with Excel spreadsheets, accounting
> and point of sale software and all in all I need a computer and a keyboard
> to efficiently do what I have to do. I think even efficient browsing the
> web is just so much easier and faster with a computer so for me that is not
> a concern, but certainly I would venture that it makes little difference
> whether you have an iPhone 7 or XR when it comes to using Safari, apps for
> listening to books, music or audio dramas or even apps like Voice Dream
> Writer if you use that for more advanced writing.
>
>
>
> “One thing which I would love more of is storage space. I'm reasonably
> comfortable with 128 GB but would love the 256 GB model if it weren't so
> much more expensive. I really wouldn't enjoy going back to 64 GB of
> storage.”
>
> Again, that is up to each person, I have an Apple Music 

Re: How to roll back to iOS 12.01 ?

[Michael Irons]

What you update there is no going back to Destin!‘s Apple only let you move 
forward. No one can roll back. You’re stuck with what you have

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> I recently updated to iOS  12.1 and I am most certainly unhappy with it. Can 
> I roll back to iOS 12.01? Can someone please help me with details on how to 
> do it?
> Thank you! 
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How to roll back to iOS 12.01 ?

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 I recently updated to iOS  12.1 and I am most certainly unhappy with it. Can I 
roll back to iOS 12.01? Can someone please help me with details on how to do it?
Thank you! 

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Re: Other Than Recent Call VoiceOver Bug, Is There Any Reason Not to Update to iOS 12.1?

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Text Replacement —  if you use a lot of text replacements, do not upgrade! I 
have about 500 text replacements. Almost half of them are not working since I 
upgraded to iOS 12Dr Vaid 

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