RE: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Is your lens clean and is the lighting good?
I also get extremely good results with SeeingAI both using short text and the 
document channel.
This is with an iPhone 6S Plus.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year

After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary reason: 
the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more often than not I 
am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and readable to the eye. 
Nevertheless, my results are almost always inconsistent. Sometimes the results 
are good, though almost never perfect. Other times they are terrible. The 
inconsistency can happen even when the pictures are almost identical. We have 
tried this on many, many documents. For reference: an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4.

I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in the 
past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the lines of 
"you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I havehave had many 
sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are positioning the camera 
correctly with bad results.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Air Pods Volume Adjust

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Which is why I still refuse to spend that much money on the Airpods.
Once I can do all I can do with my Earpods remote with the Airpods I will buy 
them.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust

or the volume even

On 11/18/18, lenron brown  wrote:
> This does suck. I wish it was possible to tripple tap with them then
> you could have one airpod  change tracks and the other control siri
>
> On 11/18/18, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> Which volume is Siri raising? The Air Pods volume or the main volume
>> control
>>
>> on the device?
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "matthew dyer" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:42 PM
>> Subject: RE: Air Pods Volume Adjust
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You can tell seri to raze or lower the valume.  For example, you can tell
>> siri set valume to 50 and it will do it for you.  HTH.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> John
>>
>> Panarese
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust
>>
>>I don’t see an option for volume either when I go into Bluetooth
>> settings
>>
>> as well on my iPhone XS.
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> An earlier post said that the volume of the Air Pods could be adjusted
>>> using the double tap.  i went into Settings, Bluetooth, and under the
>>> settings for the Air Pods Siri is the default for the double tap, and
>>> there are a few other choices, but adjusting the volume is not one of
>>> them, so it appears that you can't adjust the volume of Air Pods
>>> independently of the device's volume control.
>>> Andy
>>>
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RE: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If I had to do all my word processing on an iDevice I would go crazy and if I 
had to use Excel on an iDevice as well I'd probably shoot myself.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS


Well, if I had to do all my word processing on an iDevice, I would use Voice 
Dream Writer.
However, it only edits txt files, but you can export as RTF, Word, and others.
But, you cannot edit Word documents, or anything that isn't plain text.
I'd recommend reading up on its features.
I could try to send you the user guide privately if you would like.  
Voice Dream Writer is $9.99.
Frankly, if you need to edit word or RTF files, I'd stick with a computer, 
since none of the apps work that well with VoiceOver that will allow editing of 
those file types.
HTH,
Richard



"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Daniel McGee  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all
> 
> So lately, have been seriously considering not purchasing a new Mac device 
> and just make do with my iPhone 8 and the new iPad that came out earlier this 
> year for my computing needs.
> 
> Only thing that's stopping me and in which I am hoping that suggestions are 
> most welcome is: recommendations for current word processor apps that are up 
> to date and accessible with voiceover on iOS. 
> 
> I will also be using FlickType full time as well.
> 
> Any thoughts are really appreciated!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel 
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RE: Blue Tooth Tooth Brushes?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Donald,

Don't even bother, it's like some company which came out with a smart hair 
brush which cost $200 or something. I like my gadgets as much as the next 
person, but at times it's just too much.
One thing I would look for is that your tooth brush is a sonic brush, those 
apparently really do a better job.
My wife and I just bought a Water Pik station which includes a very nice water 
flossing machine as well as it comes with their sonic tooth brush and several 
brush heads and we now each have a brush head in our cups and use the same base.
I previously had a Philips Sonic Care which was also quite good, but they can 
be ridiculously expensive and I really don't agree when 2 replacement brushes 
cost $39 Canadian, I mean we are talking about 2 or 3 inches of plastic with a 
brush at the end. I bet they make money no end on these, most people probably 
won't check first what replacement brushes cost, they buy the expensive tooth 
brush and then get a big surprise when they need a replacement brush. Of course 
at that point they spend $200 on the tooth brush so they bite the bullet and 
buy the expensive replacement.
This Water Pik combo station we bought is their best and most expensive one and 
it was I think $119 US, I ended up ordering it from Amazon.com because they 
didn't list it here yet.

-Original Message-
From: 'Donald Moore' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blue Tooth Tooth Brushes?

Yesterday, I went to the Amazon web site to look for a spare travel electric
tooth brush.  What, to my surprise was a butt load of blue tooth models.

Question: Have any of you purchased one of these?  What does it do that the
older ones don't?

Thanks in advance.


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RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

But your iPhone already came with a set of perfectly good Earpods.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi, 
I'm reluctant to enter my pass code when out in public or around some people 
who I might not know very well, for the simple fact, I use vo, and if I can 
hear vo, I'm sure others can hear it as well.  As far as entering my pass code 
while my phone is in my pocket, again, if I can hear vo, I'm sure others can as 
well.  I Wouldn't buy ear phones just for that reason.  I will now use the home 
gesture for unlocking my phone.   
Janet 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

To each their own, but I wouldn't be as reluctant to enter in my pin. You can 
do so with your phone still in your pocket or purse or if that's too awkward, 
then just enable the screen curtain so if someone's actually taking the time to 
watch you for the 2 or 3 seconds that it takes to punch in 4 or 6 or whatever 
digits, they'll see you tapping away at a black screen anyway. If I'm out and 
about, I always use a blutooth earpiece. Be it my Trekz Air or Plantronics 
5500. Having Vo just chattering away like that feels awkward and it's hard to 
hear anyway. I like my privacy too.
I do prefer the old touch ID method, but ho well, so goes technology. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Maria, 
 Unfortunately, that won't work for me.  If the face id doesn't recognize my 
face the first time, I don't get a second chance, so in order to unlock the 
phone, I have to enter my pass code.  Smile!  Now, if I have to enter my pass 
code to unlock the phone when I am out, I don't feel comfortable entering my 
pass code when out in public though.  I don't think that is a smart thing to 
do, as one might not know who is around.  I know when I power down the phone I 
have to enter my pass code.  
Although, I have to admit when I unlock my phone using face id, I'm quite 
amazed that the face id can still recognize my face even if I'm in the dark or 
even if I am wearing my sun glasses, as when I set up the face id feature, I 
wasn't wearing my sun glasses, and I was in a bright setting, and I even had 
the screen curtain turned on as I usually do, but I forgot it was on when I was 
setting up the face id.  I think this alone is quite amazing though!  I'm 
actually blown away by this!  It doesn't take much to please me!  Smile! 

Janet 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Janet, 
If you completely power down your phone you will have to enter your code then 
after that you can use Face ID. 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:08 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Aleeha and all,  
> 
> Oh how I wish this home gesture would work with my xr phone, because when 
> face id doesn't work the first time, I have no other choice but to enter my 
> code, or simply turn off the phone, and try it again.  Although, when I am 
> out and about, I usually will turn off the phone, and I will then try the 
> face id instead of entering my code when out in public, as I don't feel 
> comfortable entering my code when out in public.  
> 
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:00 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
> 
> Hi, 
> You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This 
> will initiate a second scan.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
>> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
>> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or switch it off 
>> and wake the iPhone again to try again.
>> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan with 
>> a finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with Voice 
>> Over. No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
>> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
>> unfortunately.
>> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
>> 
>> 

RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Janet,

You don't have to turn the volume that loud and if you are really that worried 
plug in a headset so nobody can hear what you are entering.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Maria, 
 Unfortunately, that won't work for me.  If the face id doesn't recognize my 
face the first time, I don't get a second chance, so in order to unlock the 
phone, I have to enter my pass code.  Smile!  Now, if I have to enter my pass 
code to unlock the phone when I am out, I don't feel comfortable entering my 
pass code when out in public though.  I don't think that is a smart thing to 
do, as one might not know who is around.  I know when I power down the phone I 
have to enter my pass code.  
Although, I have to admit when I unlock my phone using face id, I'm quite 
amazed that the face id can still recognize my face even if I'm in the dark or 
even if I am wearing my sun glasses, as when I set up the face id feature, I 
wasn't wearing my sun glasses, and I was in a bright setting, and I even had 
the screen curtain turned on as I usually do, but I forgot it was on when I was 
setting up the face id.  I think this alone is quite amazing though!  I'm 
actually blown away by this!  It doesn't take much to please me!  Smile! 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Janet, 
If you completely power down your phone you will have to enter your code then 
after that you can use Face ID. 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:08 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Aleeha and all,  
> 
> Oh how I wish this home gesture would work with my xr phone, because when 
> face id doesn't work the first time, I have no other choice but to enter my 
> code, or simply turn off the phone, and try it again.  Although, when I am 
> out and about, I usually will turn off the phone, and I will then try the 
> face id instead of entering my code when out in public, as I don't feel 
> comfortable entering my code when out in public.  
> 
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:00 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
> 
> Hi, 
> You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This 
> will initiate a second scan.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
>> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
>> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or switch it off 
>> and wake the iPhone again to try again.
>> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan with 
>> a finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with Voice 
>> Over. No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
>> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
>> unfortunately.
>> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
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RE: Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Let's just hope they will also be on sale at Best Buy in Canada, I might be 
tempted to get a pair for our bedroom if they are a good deal especially since 
I have $800 in Best Buy gift cards which I purchased with Aeroplan points last 
year when I had so many that I didn't know what to do with them.

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Otten
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product

Hi all,
This coming Black Friday, there’s going to be a serious discount on the HomePod 
speaker from Apple at Best Buy. I am thinking about getting a pair of those in 
an effort for overall down sizing. I have currently a nice stereo set up, but 
it’s rather old, although the speakers are still wonderful. I’m just curious 
what peoples impressions are of the HomePod, especially as a stereo pair in a 
moderate sized living room, as well as how it works otherwise. Siri, phone 
calls, etc. 
Mary


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RE: Siri Constantly Interrupting

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I was going to suggest to first of all reboot the phone, after that if it still 
happens turn the phone face down, Hey SIRI will not work if the proximity 
sensor is covered. If SIRI still reacts when the screen is locked and the phone 
is lying screen side down there is something else going on, maybe the home 
button is stuck?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri Constantly Interrupting

Deidre is correct.
Turn off Hey Siri and see if the problem stops.
If it does, then if you are listening to an audio book, something is triggering 
Hey Siri, which could be anything that sounds remotely like Hey Siri.
If it doesn't, then you need to deal with Apple as something is most definitely 
wrong with your phone.
Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deidre 
Muccio
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri Constantly Interrupting

Dulce
there are two functions for Siri in settings. you want to turn OK Siri off or 
if you've got google loaded up turn off OK Google. Both lay in wait  in the 
background to pick up your speech at a distance as if you might want to issue a 
command at a distance. So it's hearing you or are you on your computer or 
something else going on. since you're not really asking the question directly 
it doesn't have any clue what you're saying which must be why the poor thing 
keeps saying it doesn't understand what you mean. Turn off OK Siri or turn off 
OK google depending on which you've got switched on.

Deidre


> On Nov 17, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
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> 
> Siri constantly interrupts me and says sorry but can't hear me; I'm not 
> invoking Siri.  Short of turning Siri off, what else can I do?  It's 
> impossible to complete any task.
> 
> Dulce
> 
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> Sent from my iPhoneSir
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RE: Now available, was: New Instant Pot WiFi - how did that one slip by the list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Check the thread, Rick posted a message and said he directly knew one or two 
people who had already bought it and found that the app had some accessibility 
issues and was definitely not as good  as the old smart cooker app. I'm sure 
the Instant Pot itself is just fine, but it looks like hopefully there will be 
improvements made in the app.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
n4v...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Now available, was: New Instant Pot WiFi - how did that one slip 
by the list?

Have anyone tried the new WIFI pot?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johnna 
Simmons
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 9:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Now available, was: New Instant Pot WiFi - how did that one slip 
by the list?

Can someone please explain to me what an Insta pot is. How does that work? Is 
that like a crockpot? What kind of things does it cook?
Johnna Simmons

On Nov 12, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Len, Don and others,



I just noticed that the new Instant Pot Smart WiFi was now in stock and 
available to ship on the Amazon Canada website and when I went to 
Amazon.com it seems that it is now also listed and available 
to ship.

In Canada it is $199.99 Canadian and in the US $145.35 US, at the current 
exchange rate the US and Canadian prices are pretty much right on.

Below are the links, of course since we are now only a little over a week away 
from Black Friday I will wait and hope I can score a better deal on this.



Instant Pot Smart WiFi on 
Amazon.com



Instant Pot Smart WiFi on Amazon 
Canada





Best regards,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 1:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Instant Pot WiFi - how did that one slip by the list?



I noticed the same thing, how sad. Maybe we can all take a field trip to Canada 
to get these and hang with some awesome people up there. lol



On 10/7/18, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

> As I said, Deb, I noticed later that on the canadian Amazon site this

> item currently is available for preorder.

> I did have an existing support case from earlier this year regarding

> the Instant Pot Smart and replied to the last email I received from

> their support team asking about this item. If I get a reply from

> Instant Pot I will post it on the list.

>

> Regards,

> Sieghard

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Deb Cook Lewis

> Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 2:40 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

> Subject: Re: New Instant Pot WiFi - how did that one slip by the list?

>

> It's not available on the US Amazon at all. Only the inaccessible one.

> So that's how it's not come up, a good number of us can't get one. I

> did see the old one for $600, like I'd want to pay that of course.

>

> On 10/7/18, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>> Well, there are plenty of products that are not available in Canada.

>> So I guess it’s only fair. But it is too bad, assuming that whatever

>> app you have to use with it would be accessible. It would be good to

>> have it available everywhere.

>> Mary

>>

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>

>>> On Oct 7, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

>>>

>>> I actually realized after I went back to Amazon that at this point

>>> it is only available for preorder.

>>> I wrote to Instant Pot support to ask about it, if I get a reply I’l

>>> lshare it.

>>> Of course since Instant Pot is canadian they may just have decided

>>> that given Trump’s tarifs on canadian steel and aluminum it is just

>>> too expensive now to sell it in the US or maybe it’s popularity is

>>> considered a thread to national security *smile*.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Sieghard

>>>

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Mary Otten

>>> Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 9:08 AM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>>> Subject: Re: New Instant Pot WiFi - how did that one slip by the list?

>>>

>>> I don’t think this device is available in the US. I can’t find it on

>>> the US  Amazon store.

>>> Mary

>>>

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

>>> On Oct 7, 2018, at 8:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

>>>

Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year

['Candie Stiles' via VIPhone]

I think the key is to hold the phone farther away from the document then you 
think. There have been times when I hold the phone closer, about 4 to 6 inches 
and the scan isn't very good. If I hold the phone about 10 to 12 inches away I 
get a much better scan. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 10:37 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> In most cases seeing AI works perfect when scanning.
> 
>> On 11/18/18, Lelia Struve  wrote:
>> I second that, there are times when reading and envelope for mail is
>> difficult but honestly I really haven’t had any issues that I want to
>> complain about LOL
>> 
>> Lelia
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have nearly the exact opposite experience. I seldom get a bad scan with
>>> the document channel.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good
>>> books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>> 
 On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:29 PM, kelby carlson 
 wrote:
 
 After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary
 reason: the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more
 often than not I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and
 readable to the eye. Nevertheless, my results are almost always
 inconsistent. Sometimes the results are good, though almost never
 perfect. Other times they are terrible. The inconsistency can happen even
 when the pictures are almost identical. We have tried this on many, many
 documents. For reference: an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4.
 
 I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in
 the past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the
 lines of "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I
 havehave had many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are
 positioning the camera correctly with bad results.
 
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Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year

[lenron brown]

In most cases seeing AI works perfect when scanning.

On 11/18/18, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> I second that, there are times when reading and envelope for mail is
> difficult but honestly I really haven’t had any issues that I want to
> complain about LOL
>
> Lelia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have nearly the exact opposite experience. I seldom get a bad scan with
>> the document channel.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good
>> books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:29 PM, kelby carlson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary
>>> reason: the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more
>>> often than not I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and
>>> readable to the eye. Nevertheless, my results are almost always
>>> inconsistent. Sometimes the results are good, though almost never
>>> perfect. Other times they are terrible. The inconsistency can happen even
>>> when the pictures are almost identical. We have tried this on many, many
>>> documents. For reference: an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4.
>>>
>>> I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in
>>> the past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the
>>> lines of "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I
>>> havehave had many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are
>>> positioning the camera correctly with bad results.
>>>
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Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust

[lenron brown]

I know that. My point was that it would be cool to set one to change
tracks back and forward, and have the other control the volume or
something else.

On 11/18/18, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> Actually, you can set the double tap to do something different with each
> side.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "lenron brown" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust
>
>
> This does suck. I wish it was possible to tripple tap with them then
> you could have one airpod  change tracks and the other control siri
>
> On 11/18/18, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> Which volume is Siri raising? The Air Pods volume or the main volume
>> control
>>
>> on the device?
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "matthew dyer" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:42 PM
>> Subject: RE: Air Pods Volume Adjust
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You can tell seri to raze or lower the valume.  For example, you can tell
>> siri set valume to 50 and it will do it for you.  HTH.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> John
>>
>> Panarese
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust
>>
>>I don’t see an option for volume either when I go into Bluetooth
>> settings
>>
>> as well on my iPhone XS.
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> An earlier post said that the volume of the Air Pods could be adjusted
>>> using the double tap.  i went into Settings, Bluetooth, and under the
>>> settings for the Air Pods Siri is the default for the double tap, and
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>>> Andy
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Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust

[Andy Baracco]

Actually, you can set the double tap to do something different with each 
side.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "lenron brown" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust


This does suck. I wish it was possible to tripple tap with them then
you could have one airpod  change tracks and the other control siri

On 11/18/18, Andy Baracco  wrote:
Which volume is Siri raising? The Air Pods volume or the main volume 
control


on the device?
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "matthew dyer" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: Air Pods Volume Adjust


Hi,

You can tell seri to raze or lower the valume.  For example, you can tell
siri set valume to 50 and it will do it for you.  HTH.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
John


Panarese
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust

   I don’t see an option for volume either when I go into Bluetooth 
settings


as well on my iPhone XS.



On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

Hi!

An earlier post said that the volume of the Air Pods could be adjusted
using the double tap.  i went into Settings, Bluetooth, and under the
settings for the Air Pods Siri is the default for the double tap, and
there are a few other choices, but adjusting the volume is not one of
them, so it appears that you can't adjust the volume of Air Pods
independently of the device's volume control.
Andy


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Re: IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

['Louana Sterling' via VIPhone]

Rotter to action then flick to acctivate then you should be able to see all in 
the group. Hth

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:03 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> I remember reading when iOS 12 came out about how much better notifications 
> were with it. Can someone please tell me when I'm notified that I have a 
> group of notifications such as with my Sports Alerts app to drill down and 
> get the separate notifications in the group? I've tried 3D touching on the 
> group, single finger swiping down to get choices of view or manage but 
> neither seems to give the option of seeing the other notifications in the 
> list. I really don't want to be taken to the underlying app but simply would 
> like to be able to peruse the other notifications in the group as it used to 
> do before iOS 12.
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Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust

[lenron brown]

or the volume even

On 11/18/18, lenron brown  wrote:
> This does suck. I wish it was possible to tripple tap with them then
> you could have one airpod  change tracks and the other control siri
>
> On 11/18/18, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> Which volume is Siri raising? The Air Pods volume or the main volume
>> control
>>
>> on the device?
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "matthew dyer" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:42 PM
>> Subject: RE: Air Pods Volume Adjust
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You can tell seri to raze or lower the valume.  For example, you can tell
>> siri set valume to 50 and it will do it for you.  HTH.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> John
>>
>> Panarese
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust
>>
>>I don’t see an option for volume either when I go into Bluetooth
>> settings
>>
>> as well on my iPhone XS.
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> An earlier post said that the volume of the Air Pods could be adjusted
>>> using the double tap.  i went into Settings, Bluetooth, and under the
>>> settings for the Air Pods Siri is the default for the double tap, and
>>> there are a few other choices, but adjusting the volume is not one of
>>> them, so it appears that you can't adjust the volume of Air Pods
>>> independently of the device's volume control.
>>> Andy
>>>
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Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust

[lenron brown]

This does suck. I wish it was possible to tripple tap with them then
you could have one airpod  change tracks and the other control siri

On 11/18/18, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> Which volume is Siri raising? The Air Pods volume or the main volume control
>
> on the device?
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "matthew dyer" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:42 PM
> Subject: RE: Air Pods Volume Adjust
>
>
> Hi,
>
> You can tell seri to raze or lower the valume.  For example, you can tell
> siri set valume to 50 and it will do it for you.  HTH.
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John
>
> Panarese
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust
>
>I don’t see an option for volume either when I go into Bluetooth settings
>
> as well on my iPhone XS.
>
>
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> An earlier post said that the volume of the Air Pods could be adjusted
>> using the double tap.  i went into Settings, Bluetooth, and under the
>> settings for the Air Pods Siri is the default for the double tap, and
>> there are a few other choices, but adjusting the volume is not one of
>> them, so it appears that you can't adjust the volume of Air Pods
>> independently of the device's volume control.
>> Andy
>>
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Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust

[Andy Baracco]

Which volume is Siri raising? The Air Pods volume or the main volume control 
on the device?

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "matthew dyer" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: Air Pods Volume Adjust


Hi,

You can tell seri to raze or lower the valume.  For example, you can tell 
siri set valume to 50 and it will do it for you.  HTH.


Matthew



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John 
Panarese

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust

  I don’t see an option for volume either when I go into Bluetooth settings 
as well on my iPhone XS.




On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

Hi!

An earlier post said that the volume of the Air Pods could be adjusted 
using the double tap.  i went into Settings, Bluetooth, and under the 
settings for the Air Pods Siri is the default for the double tap, and 
there are a few other choices, but adjusting the volume is not one of 
them, so it appears that you can't adjust the volume of Air Pods 
independently of the device's volume control.

Andy


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RE: Seeing eye after just one year.

[Gerardo Corripio]

Seeing AI is so good in fact, that I’ve used it to while Windows10 is updating 
for instance, and you’ve no speech from Narrator or NVDA, I point the pone to 
the screen, via the Short Text channel, and amazingly Seeing AI READS OUT THE 
PERCENTAGE OF THE UPDATE, AND THE TEXT THAT APPEARS THAT SAYS DO NOT TURN OFF 
THEdevice. The first time I decided to try this out, it wasincredible! 


  Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

De: Jenny Bomareto
Enviado: domingo, 18 de noviembre de 2018 08:54 p. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Seeing eye after just one year.


My friend and I have seeing eye on our iPhones.

That  app does much better then KNFB reader.  In fact, it was almost a  waste 
of money to purchase KNFB reader.

With Seeing eye I  still have to learn better how to point the phone better at 
products.  I  do not have an issue with paper documents when I  want to read 
something.

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Re: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS

[Richard Turner]

Yes, I've tried all those things with both Word and Pages and no go. BTW, Word 
is not free for editing, you have to have an Office 365 subscription or I guess 
buy it.
But, it sounds like Ulysses is very much like Voice Dream Writer but has the 
advantage of importing a Word document.
But, to each his own. I do my real word processing on a computer so I wouldn't 
need the Ulysses features myself, but the person who started this thread might 
be interested.
Richard



"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Michael Feir 
mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You would import a Word document and then use the markup language to do your 
formatting in Ulysses as it would save as a text file. When you were happy with 
the document, you would export it to any of a number of formats including pdf, 
epub, html, etc.

I use the three-finger single tap when I need to know where I am in a document. 
You can split documents into sheets and group sheets together so that the group 
is exported as the finished document. That way, you're moving through smaller 
segments. I have my guide divided into a group of sheets with each sheet being 
a major section. Some of these are now over 3 words long but I can get 
around pretty efficiently by searching for headings of different levels among 
other techniques. You can get statistical information on any group or sheet 
with word count, page count, and much more. It's a pretty different approach to 
the whole idea of producing a document. It won't suit everyone. Before paying 
for anything, have you tried the three-fingered tap in Word and Pages to locate 
yourself? I'd expect Word to be a likely candidate for a kind of status line 
that you're more used to having.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 8:41 PM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Voice Dream Writer also uses the text markup.  Does Ulysses allow you to edit 
word or rtf documents?

When you have used Word or Pages with a Keyboard on a document more than a 
couple pages long and been able to accurately tell where you are in said 
document, I’d like to hear about it.  The main reason I wouldn’t recommend 
using those apps is the issue of knowing where you are when editing.

Voice Dream Reader is a one time charge.

I’ll take a look at the description of Ulysses in the app store, but from what 
you have said here, I doubt there will be anything to cause me to pay a 
subscription fee.

Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS

I couldn't disagree more. I do all my writing on my iPHONE7 using Ulysses. For 
serious writing though, do yourself a huge favour and get an external Bluetooth 
keyboard. Flicktype is awesome for when you're on the move but I can type tons 
faster with the Microsoft Mobile Keyboard I'm currently using. I expect to do 
even better with the Hexgears X1 mechanical keyboard I backed on Kickstarter. 
Haven't owned a mechanical keyboard before but I keep hearing very good things 
about them. Youtube has lots of detailed reviews and explanations of various 
keyboards. There are loads of pretty good Bluetooth keyboards out there these 
days.

You pay a monthly or yearly subscription for Ulysses but I find it well worth 
the cost. They're always improving the app and doing so thoughtfully. It uses a 
markdown language which means you use punctuation symbols as commands to be 
acted upon when the file is exported. That means it's all totally accessible 
including the formatting commands. There are toolbars you can use so you don't 
need to memorise all the punctuation.

You have lots of other choices too including Microsoft Word and Pages. Both of 
those are free. The recent VoiceOver update which added the ability to quickly 
correct spelling mistakes with the VoiceOver rotor helps a ton. Also, it's 
gotten far easier to use the text selection rotor setting to cut and paste 
chunks of document around.

Frankly, I think we're at the point where you have loads of writing options for 
iOS which are superior to Voice Dream Writer. Another one I plan to look at 
soon is called Biword and seems like a nice blog publishing choice with 
VoiceOver support. Both Ulysses and Scrivener have VoiceOver support and 
they're used by actual working authors. Both are award winning apps and 
Scrivener doesn't require a subscription. You pay once and keep using it. 
Another strong possibility is an app called Bear. I haven't dug into that one 
yet but it too offers VoiceOver support and has gotten favourable reviews.

Both 

Re: Blue Tooth Tooth Brushes?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I have a bluetooth toothbrush from Oral B. I don't really use the 
bluetooth option, but if I remember correctly, you can use it to change 
the settings of your toothbrush as well as get a report on how you're 
brushing, such as if you need to give some teeth or area of your moth 
some extra attention.



On 11/18/18 6:18 PM, 'Donald Moore' via VIPhone wrote:

Yesterday, I went to the Amazon web site to look for a spare travel electric
tooth brush.  What, to my surprise was a butt load of blue tooth models.

Question: Have any of you purchased one of these?  What does it do that the
older ones don't?

Thanks in advance.



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RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

This is where as I mentioned some sort of bluetooth earpiece comes in. For 
privacy as well as for the fact that trying to hear VoiceOver or use your phone 
in an environment with ambient noise and whatnot really is not a pleasant or 
efficient experience. 
If you don't have a Bluetooth earpiece of some sort, I would strongly recommend 
you consider getting one. You don't even have to buy a super expensive or hi 
tech model. Even somethin 30 or 40 bucks if that would even afford you all 
sorts of privacy and piece of mind. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi, 
I'm reluctant to enter my pass code when out in public or around some people 
who I might not know very well, for the simple fact, I use vo, and if I can 
hear vo, I'm sure others can hear it as well.  As far as entering my pass code 
while my phone is in my pocket, again, if I can hear vo, I'm sure others can as 
well.  I Wouldn't buy ear phones just for that reason.  I will now use the home 
gesture for unlocking my phone.   
Janet 



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

To each their own, but I wouldn't be as reluctant to enter in my pin. You can 
do so with your phone still in your pocket or purse or if that's too awkward, 
then just enable the screen curtain so if someone's actually taking the time to 
watch you for the 2 or 3 seconds that it takes to punch in 4 or 6 or whatever 
digits, they'll see you tapping away at a black screen anyway. If I'm out and 
about, I always use a blutooth earpiece. Be it my Trekz Air or Plantronics 
5500. Having Vo just chattering away like that feels awkward and it's hard to 
hear anyway. I like my privacy too.
I do prefer the old touch ID method, but ho well, so goes technology. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Maria, 
 Unfortunately, that won't work for me.  If the face id doesn't recognize my 
face the first time, I don't get a second chance, so in order to unlock the 
phone, I have to enter my pass code.  Smile!  Now, if I have to enter my pass 
code to unlock the phone when I am out, I don't feel comfortable entering my 
pass code when out in public though.  I don't think that is a smart thing to 
do, as one might not know who is around.  I know when I power down the phone I 
have to enter my pass code.  
Although, I have to admit when I unlock my phone using face id, I'm quite 
amazed that the face id can still recognize my face even if I'm in the dark or 
even if I am wearing my sun glasses, as when I set up the face id feature, I 
wasn't wearing my sun glasses, and I was in a bright setting, and I even had 
the screen curtain turned on as I usually do, but I forgot it was on when I was 
setting up the face id.  I think this alone is quite amazing though!  I'm 
actually blown away by this!  It doesn't take much to please me!  Smile! 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Janet, 
If you completely power down your phone you will have to enter your code then 
after that you can use Face ID. 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:08 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Aleeha and all,  
> 
> Oh how I wish this home gesture would work with my xr phone, because when 
> face id doesn't work the first time, I have no other choice but to enter my 
> code, or simply turn off the phone, and try it again.  Although, when I am 
> out and about, I usually will turn off the phone, and I will then try the 
> face id instead of entering my code when out in public, as I don't feel 
> comfortable entering my code when out in public.  
> 
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:00 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
> 
> Hi, 
> You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This 
> will initiate a second scan.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
>> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
>> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code 

Re: Blue Tooth Tooth Brushes?

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

 Probably, pick your pocket!   ;-) 


- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "A book is a mirror. If an ass peers into it, you can't expect an apostle to 
look out."
- German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)

On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:18 PM, 'Donald Moore' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Yesterday, I went to the Amazon web site to look for a spare travel electric
tooth brush.  What, to my surprise was a butt load of blue tooth models.

Question: Have any of you purchased one of these?  What does it do that the
older ones don't?

Thanks in advance.

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Seeing eye after just one year.

[Jenny Bomareto]

My friend and I have seeing eye on our iPhones.

That  app does much better then KNFB reader.  In fact, it was almost a  waste 
of money to purchase KNFB reader.

With Seeing eye I  still have to learn better how to point the phone better at 
products.  I  do not have an issue with paper documents when I  want to read 
something.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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Re: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS

[Michael Feir]

You would import a Word document and then use the markup language to do
your formatting in Ulysses as it would save as a text file. When you were
happy with the document, you would export it to any of a number of formats
including pdf, epub, html, etc.

I use the three-finger single tap when I need to know where I am in a
document. You can split documents into sheets and group sheets together so
that the group is exported as the finished document. That way, you're
moving through smaller segments. I have my guide divided into a group of
sheets with each sheet being a major section. Some of these are now over
3 words long but I can get around pretty efficiently by searching for
headings of different levels among other techniques. You can get
statistical information on any group or sheet with word count, page count,
and much more. It's a pretty different approach to the whole idea of
producing a document. It won't suit everyone. Before paying for anything,
have you tried the three-fingered tap in Word and Pages to locate yourself?
I'd expect Word to be a likely candidate for a kind of status line that
you're more used to having.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 8:41 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Voice Dream Writer also uses the text markup.  Does Ulysses allow you to
> edit word or rtf documents?
>
>
>
> When you have used Word or Pages with a Keyboard on a document more than a
> couple pages long and been able to accurately tell where you are in said
> document, I’d like to hear about it.  The main reason I wouldn’t recommend
> using those apps is the issue of knowing where you are when editing.
>
>
>
> Voice Dream Reader is a one time charge.
>
>
>
> I’ll take a look at the description of Ulysses in the app store, but from
> what you have said here, I doubt there will be anything to cause me to pay
> a subscription fee.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Michael Feir
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:17 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS
>
>
>
> I couldn't disagree more. I do all my writing on my iPHONE7 using Ulysses.
> For serious writing though, do yourself a huge favour and get an external
> Bluetooth keyboard. Flicktype is awesome for when you're on the move but I
> can type tons faster with the Microsoft Mobile Keyboard I'm currently
> using. I expect to do even better with the Hexgears X1 mechanical keyboard
> I backed on Kickstarter. Haven't owned a mechanical keyboard before but I
> keep hearing very good things about them. Youtube has lots of detailed
> reviews and explanations of various keyboards. There are loads of pretty
> good Bluetooth keyboards out there these days.
>
>
>
> You pay a monthly or yearly subscription for Ulysses but I find it well
> worth the cost. They're always improving the app and doing so thoughtfully.
> It uses a markdown language which means you use punctuation symbols as
> commands to be acted upon when the file is exported. That means it's all
> totally accessible including the formatting commands. There are toolbars
> you can use so you don't need to memorise all the punctuation.
>
>
>
> You have lots of other choices too including Microsoft Word and Pages.
> Both of those are free. The recent VoiceOver update which added the ability
> to quickly correct spelling mistakes with the VoiceOver rotor helps a ton.
> Also, it's gotten far easier to use the text selection rotor setting to cut
> and paste chunks of document around.
>
>
>
> Frankly, I think we're at the point where you have loads of writing
> options for iOS which are superior to Voice Dream Writer. Another one I
> plan to look at soon is called Biword and seems like a nice blog publishing
> choice with VoiceOver support. Both Ulysses and Scrivener have VoiceOver
> support and they're used by actual working authors. Both are award winning
> apps and Scrivener doesn't require a subscription. You pay once and keep
> using it. Another strong possibility is an app called Bear. I haven't dug
> into that one yet but it too offers VoiceOver support and has gotten
> favourable reviews.
>
>
>
> Both Pages and Microsoft Word are completely free on iOS. I personally
> don't like them but perhaps, you'll favour their approach now that
> VoiceOver has improved in text selection and spellchecking.
>
>
>
> I know how disheartening it can be when there are so many thousands of
> inaccessible apps for every one that does work with VoiceOver. My guide
> that I'm working on wil divulge my best discoveries and have advice on app
> shopping amnong many other things. I recommend keeping a frequent ear on
> the Applevis site at:
>
> Www.applevis.com
> 

RE: Air Pods Volume Adjust

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

You can tell seri to raze or lower the valume.  For example, you can tell siri 
set valume to 50 and it will do it for you.  HTH.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John 
Panarese
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust

   I don’t see an option for volume either when I go into Bluetooth settings as 
well on my iPhone XS.


> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
>  
> An earlier post said that the volume of the Air Pods could be adjusted using 
> the double tap.  i went into Settings, Bluetooth, and under the settings for 
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How to turn on descriptive video in the TV app

[Kimberly]

Hi,

In the TV app, how do I turn on descriptive video? Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year

[Lelia Struve]

I second that, there are times when reading and envelope for mail is difficult 
but honestly I really haven’t had any issues that I want to complain about LOL

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I have nearly the exact opposite experience. I seldom get a bad scan with the 
> document channel.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:29 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary 
>> reason: the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more often 
>> than not I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and readable to 
>> the eye. Nevertheless, my results are almost always inconsistent. Sometimes 
>> the results are good, though almost never perfect. Other times they are 
>> terrible. The inconsistency can happen even when the pictures are almost 
>> identical. We have tried this on many, many documents. For reference: an 
>> iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4.
>> 
>> I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in the 
>> past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the lines 
>> of "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I havehave had 
>> many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are positioning the 
>> camera correctly with bad results.
>> 
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Re: Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year

[Richard Turner]

I have nearly the exact opposite experience. I seldom get a bad scan with the 
document channel.
Richard



"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:29 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary reason: 
> the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more often than not 
> I am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and readable to the eye. 
> Nevertheless, my results are almost always inconsistent. Sometimes the 
> results are good, though almost never perfect. Other times they are terrible. 
> The inconsistency can happen even when the pictures are almost identical. We 
> have tried this on many, many documents. For reference: an iPhone 7 running 
> iOS 11.4.
> 
> I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in the 
> past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the lines of 
> "you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I havehave had 
> many sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are positioning the 
> camera correctly with bad results.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS

[Richard Turner]

Voice Dream Writer also uses the text markup.  Does Ulysses allow you to edit 
word or rtf documents?

When you have used Word or Pages with a Keyboard on a document more than a 
couple pages long and been able to accurately tell where you are in said 
document, I’d like to hear about it.  The main reason I wouldn’t recommend 
using those apps is the issue of knowing where you are when editing.

Voice Dream Reader is a one time charge.

I’ll take a look at the description of Ulysses in the app store, but from what 
you have said here, I doubt there will be anything to cause me to pay a 
subscription fee.

Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS

I couldn't disagree more. I do all my writing on my iPHONE7 using Ulysses. For 
serious writing though, do yourself a huge favour and get an external Bluetooth 
keyboard. Flicktype is awesome for when you're on the move but I can type tons 
faster with the Microsoft Mobile Keyboard I'm currently using. I expect to do 
even better with the Hexgears X1 mechanical keyboard I backed on Kickstarter. 
Haven't owned a mechanical keyboard before but I keep hearing very good things 
about them. Youtube has lots of detailed reviews and explanations of various 
keyboards. There are loads of pretty good Bluetooth keyboards out there these 
days.

You pay a monthly or yearly subscription for Ulysses but I find it well worth 
the cost. They're always improving the app and doing so thoughtfully. It uses a 
markdown language which means you use punctuation symbols as commands to be 
acted upon when the file is exported. That means it's all totally accessible 
including the formatting commands. There are toolbars you can use so you don't 
need to memorise all the punctuation.

You have lots of other choices too including Microsoft Word and Pages. Both of 
those are free. The recent VoiceOver update which added the ability to quickly 
correct spelling mistakes with the VoiceOver rotor helps a ton. Also, it's 
gotten far easier to use the text selection rotor setting to cut and paste 
chunks of document around.

Frankly, I think we're at the point where you have loads of writing options for 
iOS which are superior to Voice Dream Writer. Another one I plan to look at 
soon is called Biword and seems like a nice blog publishing choice with 
VoiceOver support. Both Ulysses and Scrivener have VoiceOver support and 
they're used by actual working authors. Both are award winning apps and 
Scrivener doesn't require a subscription. You pay once and keep using it. 
Another strong possibility is an app called Bear. I haven't dug into that one 
yet but it too offers VoiceOver support and has gotten favourable reviews.

Both Pages and Microsoft Word are completely free on iOS. I personally don't 
like them but perhaps, you'll favour their approach now that VoiceOver has 
improved in text selection and spellchecking.

I know how disheartening it can be when there are so many thousands of 
inaccessible apps for every one that does work with VoiceOver. My guide that 
I'm working on wil divulge my best discoveries and have advice on app shopping 
amnong many other things. I recommend keeping a frequent ear on the Applevis 
site at:
Www.applevis.com
As this is where people tend to share their discoveries of accessible apps. 
Awareness of blind iOS users is spreading among app developers and I'm finding 
that I can take a chance which pays off more often these days. Plus Apple is 
quite good about refunding if you get something you can't ultimately use. The 
Wordweb dictionary/thesaurus app, the Terminology dictionary/thesaurus app and 
the PCalc calculator have all proved to be quite usable. Things3, a task 
manager, is accessible but could do with some work. The Microsoft Todo app is 
also fully accessible in that app category. Add in the Google and Wikipedia 
apps and you have a pretty nice writing environment.

Best of luck in your quest for a good writing app which suits your needs. There 
are numerous choices to check out which have different strengths and weaknesses.

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 5:57 PM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Well, if I had to do all my word processing on an iDevice, I would use Voice 
Dream Writer.
However, it only edits txt files, but you can export as RTF, Word, and others.
But, you cannot edit Word documents, or anything that isn't plain text.
I'd recommend reading up on its features.
I could try to send you the user guide privately 

RE: Removing email account from 6

[Robert Wright]

Go to settings
General
Reset 
Reset all content and settings


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From: Lisa P. Geibel
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:15 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Removing email account from 6

Hi,

I have an i Phone 6 that has my email account attached to it. I upgraded 
to an 8+ and would like to remove the account from the 6. I've looked 
and tried to figure this out on my own, but have had no success. Could 
someone please help me with this? I'm using the latest IOS version. Thanks.

-- 
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RE: puzzling

[Robert Wright]

Ah, my gmail account is the default account on my phone and in the mail app on 
the pc.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: puzzling

Your accounts are both logged in to the same service I suspect and it is 
treating it as an exchange or iMap account and syncing across devices.
Especially if you put in your phone information as part of the Win10 setup.

At least, that is my guesstimate of what is happening.

Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: puzzling

I added a friend’s contact information on my phone yesterday. This morning I 
was getting ready to forward an email in the win10 mail app on my pc. When I 
started typing the name the contact I had added on my phone popped up. I had 
never had her contact information before yesterday afternoon.

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Re: Labeling buttons

[l . d . ethier23]

Double tap with two fingers and keep touching longer you will of text field

Lyne

> Le 18 nov. 2018 à 19:24, Agent086b  a écrit :
> 
> Hi all,
> please could somebody remind me how to label a button on my iPhoneXs and 
> latest IOS?
> Thanks for any advice.
> Max.
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RE: IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I'm not sure I understand exactly what your problem is, but I have 12.1. 
Anyway, regardless of which I have had, I check my Home Page periodically, and 
if there are Notifications, it will say so. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Alan Lemly
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:03 PM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

I remember reading when iOS 12 came out about how much better notifications 
were with it. Can someone please tell me when I'm notified that I have a group 
of notifications such as with my Sports Alerts app to drill down and get the 
separate notifications in the group? I've tried 3D touching on the group, 
single finger swiping down to get choices of view or manage but neither seems 
to give the option of seeing the other notifications in the list. I really 
don't want to be taken to the underlying app but simply would like to be able 
to peruse the other notifications in the group as it used to do before iOS 12.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

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RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[janet gross]

Hi, 
I'm reluctant to enter my pass code when out in public or around some people 
who I might not know very well, for the simple fact, I use vo, and if I can 
hear vo, I'm sure others can hear it as well.  As far as entering my pass code 
while my phone is in my pocket, again, if I can hear vo, I'm sure others can as 
well.  I Wouldn't buy ear phones just for that reason.  I will now use the home 
gesture for unlocking my phone.   
Janet 



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

To each their own, but I wouldn't be as reluctant to enter in my pin. You can 
do so with your phone still in your pocket or purse or if that's too awkward, 
then just enable the screen curtain so if someone's actually taking the time to 
watch you for the 2 or 3 seconds that it takes to punch in 4 or 6 or whatever 
digits, they'll see you tapping away at a black screen anyway. If I'm out and 
about, I always use a blutooth earpiece. Be it my Trekz Air or Plantronics 
5500. Having Vo just chattering away like that feels awkward and it's hard to 
hear anyway. I like my privacy too.
I do prefer the old touch ID method, but ho well, so goes technology. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Maria, 
 Unfortunately, that won't work for me.  If the face id doesn't recognize my 
face the first time, I don't get a second chance, so in order to unlock the 
phone, I have to enter my pass code.  Smile!  Now, if I have to enter my pass 
code to unlock the phone when I am out, I don't feel comfortable entering my 
pass code when out in public though.  I don't think that is a smart thing to 
do, as one might not know who is around.  I know when I power down the phone I 
have to enter my pass code.  
Although, I have to admit when I unlock my phone using face id, I'm quite 
amazed that the face id can still recognize my face even if I'm in the dark or 
even if I am wearing my sun glasses, as when I set up the face id feature, I 
wasn't wearing my sun glasses, and I was in a bright setting, and I even had 
the screen curtain turned on as I usually do, but I forgot it was on when I was 
setting up the face id.  I think this alone is quite amazing though!  I'm 
actually blown away by this!  It doesn't take much to please me!  Smile! 

Janet 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Janet, 
If you completely power down your phone you will have to enter your code then 
after that you can use Face ID. 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:08 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Aleeha and all,  
> 
> Oh how I wish this home gesture would work with my xr phone, because when 
> face id doesn't work the first time, I have no other choice but to enter my 
> code, or simply turn off the phone, and try it again.  Although, when I am 
> out and about, I usually will turn off the phone, and I will then try the 
> face id instead of entering my code when out in public, as I don't feel 
> comfortable entering my code when out in public.  
> 
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:00 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
> 
> Hi, 
> You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This 
> will initiate a second scan.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
>> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
>> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or switch it off 
>> and wake the iPhone again to try again.
>> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan with 
>> a finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with Voice 
>> Over. No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
>> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
>> unfortunately.
>> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
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Labeling buttons

[Agent086b]

Hi all,
please could somebody remind me how to label a button on my iPhoneXs and latest 
IOS?
Thanks for any advice.
Max.

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Blue Tooth Tooth Brushes?

['Donald Moore' via VIPhone]

Yesterday, I went to the Amazon web site to look for a spare travel electric
tooth brush.  What, to my surprise was a butt load of blue tooth models.

Question: Have any of you purchased one of these?  What does it do that the
older ones don't?

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Re: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS

[Michael Feir]

I couldn't disagree more. I do all my writing on my iPHONE7 using Ulysses.
For serious writing though, do yourself a huge favour and get an external
Bluetooth keyboard. Flicktype is awesome for when you're on the move but I
can type tons faster with the Microsoft Mobile Keyboard I'm currently
using. I expect to do even better with the Hexgears X1 mechanical keyboard
I backed on Kickstarter. Haven't owned a mechanical keyboard before but I
keep hearing very good things about them. Youtube has lots of detailed
reviews and explanations of various keyboards. There are loads of pretty
good Bluetooth keyboards out there these days.

You pay a monthly or yearly subscription for Ulysses but I find it well
worth the cost. They're always improving the app and doing so thoughtfully.
It uses a markdown language which means you use punctuation symbols as
commands to be acted upon when the file is exported. That means it's all
totally accessible including the formatting commands. There are toolbars
you can use so you don't need to memorise all the punctuation.

You have lots of other choices too including Microsoft Word and Pages. Both
of those are free. The recent VoiceOver update which added the ability to
quickly correct spelling mistakes with the VoiceOver rotor helps a ton.
Also, it's gotten far easier to use the text selection rotor setting to cut
and paste chunks of document around.

Frankly, I think we're at the point where you have loads of writing options
for iOS which are superior to Voice Dream Writer. Another one I plan to
look at soon is called Biword and seems like a nice blog publishing choice
with VoiceOver support. Both Ulysses and Scrivener have VoiceOver support
and they're used by actual working authors. Both are award winning apps and
Scrivener doesn't require a subscription. You pay once and keep using it.
Another strong possibility is an app called Bear. I haven't dug into that
one yet but it too offers VoiceOver support and has gotten favourable
reviews.

Both Pages and Microsoft Word are completely free on iOS. I personally
don't like them but perhaps, you'll favour their approach now that
VoiceOver has improved in text selection and spellchecking.

I know how disheartening it can be when there are so many thousands of
inaccessible apps for every one that does work with VoiceOver. My guide
that I'm working on wil divulge my best discoveries and have advice on app
shopping amnong many other things. I recommend keeping a frequent ear on
the Applevis site at:
Www.applevis.com
As this is where people tend to share their discoveries of accessible apps.
Awareness of blind iOS users is spreading among app developers and I'm
finding that I can take a chance which pays off more often these days. Plus
Apple is quite good about refunding if you get something you can't
ultimately use. The Wordweb dictionary/thesaurus app, the Terminology
dictionary/thesaurus app and the PCalc calculator have all proved to be
quite usable. Things3, a task manager, is accessible but could do with some
work. The Microsoft Todo app is also fully accessible in that app category.
Add in the Google and Wikipedia apps and you have a pretty nice writing
environment.

Best of luck in your quest for a good writing app which suits your needs.
There are numerous choices to check out which have different strengths and
weaknesses.

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 5:57 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

>
> Well, if I had to do all my word processing on an iDevice, I would use
> Voice Dream Writer.
> However, it only edits txt files, but you can export as RTF, Word, and
> others.
> But, you cannot edit Word documents, or anything that isn't plain text.
> I'd recommend reading up on its features.
> I could try to send you the user guide privately if you would like.
> Voice Dream Writer is $9.99.
> Frankly, if you need to edit word or RTF files, I'd stick with a computer,
> since none of the apps work that well with VoiceOver that will allow
> editing of those file types.
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
>
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good
> books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
> > On Nov 18, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Daniel McGee 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > So lately, have been seriously considering not purchasing a new Mac
> device and just make do with my iPhone 8 and the new iPad that came out
> earlier this year for my computing needs.
> >
> > Only thing that's stopping me and in which I am hoping that suggestions
> are most welcome is: recommendations for current word processor apps that
> are up to date and accessible with voiceover on iOS.
> >
> > I will also be using FlickType full time as well.
> >
> > Any thoughts are really appreciated!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Daniel
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RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[janet gross]

Anna, 
Ok, I just tried the home gesture now, and low in behold, it worked!  Something 
that simple, and I didn't even think of it!  
Thank you thank you!  
Janet 




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:49 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Janet,

Try doing the Home gesture again; it should scan again. You can also lock and 
then unlock the screen.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:43 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Maria, 
> Unfortunately, that won't work for me.  If the face id doesn't recognize my 
> face the first time, I don't get a second chance, so in order to unlock the 
> phone, I have to enter my pass code.  Smile!  Now, if I have to enter my pass 
> code to unlock the phone when I am out, I don't feel comfortable entering my 
> pass code when out in public though.  I don't think that is a smart thing to 
> do, as one might not know who is around.  I know when I power down the phone 
> I have to enter my pass code.  
> Although, I have to admit when I unlock my phone using face id, I'm quite 
> amazed that the face id can still recognize my face even if I'm in the dark 
> or even if I am wearing my sun glasses, as when I set up the face id feature, 
> I wasn't wearing my sun glasses, and I was in a bright setting, and I even 
> had the screen curtain turned on as I usually do, but I forgot it was on when 
> I was setting up the face id.  I think this alone is quite amazing though!  
> I'm actually blown away by this!  It doesn't take much to please me!  Smile! 
> 
> Janet 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Maria Reyes
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
> 
> Hi Janet, 
> If you completely power down your phone you will have to enter your code then 
> after that you can use Face ID. 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:08 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Aleeha and all,  
>> 
>> Oh how I wish this home gesture would work with my xr phone, because when 
>> face id doesn't work the first time, I have no other choice but to enter my 
>> code, or simply turn off the phone, and try it again.  Although, when I am 
>> out and about, I usually will turn off the phone, and I will then try the 
>> face id instead of entering my code when out in public, as I don't feel 
>> comfortable entering my code when out in public.  
>> 
>> Janet 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:00 PM
>> To: viPhone
>> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This 
>> will initiate a second scan.
>> Aleeha 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
>>> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
>>> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or switch it 
>>> off and wake the iPhone again to try again.
>>> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan with 
>>> a finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with Voice 
>>> Over. No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
>>> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
>>> unfortunately.
>>> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>> 
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RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

To each their own, but I wouldn't be as reluctant to enter in my pin. You can 
do so with your phone still in your pocket or purse or if that's too awkward, 
then just enable the screen curtain so if someone's actually taking the time to 
watch you for the 2 or 3 seconds that it takes to punch in 4 or 6 or whatever 
digits, they'll see you tapping away at a black screen anyway. If I'm out and 
about, I always use a blutooth earpiece. Be it my Trekz Air or Plantronics 
5500. Having Vo just chattering away like that feels awkward and it's hard to 
hear anyway. I like my privacy too.
I do prefer the old touch ID method, but ho well, so goes technology. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Maria, 
 Unfortunately, that won't work for me.  If the face id doesn't recognize my 
face the first time, I don't get a second chance, so in order to unlock the 
phone, I have to enter my pass code.  Smile!  Now, if I have to enter my pass 
code to unlock the phone when I am out, I don't feel comfortable entering my 
pass code when out in public though.  I don't think that is a smart thing to 
do, as one might not know who is around.  I know when I power down the phone I 
have to enter my pass code.  
Although, I have to admit when I unlock my phone using face id, I'm quite 
amazed that the face id can still recognize my face even if I'm in the dark or 
even if I am wearing my sun glasses, as when I set up the face id feature, I 
wasn't wearing my sun glasses, and I was in a bright setting, and I even had 
the screen curtain turned on as I usually do, but I forgot it was on when I was 
setting up the face id.  I think this alone is quite amazing though!  I'm 
actually blown away by this!  It doesn't take much to please me!  Smile! 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Janet, 
If you completely power down your phone you will have to enter your code then 
after that you can use Face ID. 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:08 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Aleeha and all,  
> 
> Oh how I wish this home gesture would work with my xr phone, because when 
> face id doesn't work the first time, I have no other choice but to enter my 
> code, or simply turn off the phone, and try it again.  Although, when I am 
> out and about, I usually will turn off the phone, and I will then try the 
> face id instead of entering my code when out in public, as I don't feel 
> comfortable entering my code when out in public.  
> 
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:00 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
> 
> Hi, 
> You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This 
> will initiate a second scan.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
>> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
>> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or switch it off 
>> and wake the iPhone again to try again.
>> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan with 
>> a finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with Voice 
>> Over. No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
>> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
>> unfortunately.
>> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>> -- 
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RE: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Anna, 
Thank you again for this.  So, trickle charge mode, I didn't know this, 
although, this does make sense though so it doesn't over charge.  This is good 
to know.  
Thank you again.  

Janet 




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:35 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.

Hi Janet,

In the last few percents of charge, the phone goes into a trickle charge mode 
where charging is slow so the battery won't overcharge. That's probably why you 
saw it take a while for the battery to go from 99% to 100%.

There was a bug in the software when iOS 12 first came out that meant devices 
sometimes didn't charge if they were locked when you plugged them in. that bug 
was fixed in an update. It's possible that you ran into the bug with the 
charger that came with your phone, and that all of the hardware is actually 
working. Make sure you have the latest version of iOS 12.1, and try the new 
hardware again the next time you need to charge.

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:01 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna, 
> De, I can't believe I didn't even think of that!  Woe, I'm losing it!  Smile! 
>  Ok, I did switch the old and new cables, and the wall bricks, and now, both 
> old and new cables say charging in the status bar on the home screen.  
> Although, it took all this time for the batteries to finally charge from 99 
> percent to 100 percent.  This doesn't sound right.  Since I've had the phone 
> I used it with the old charger, and it would charge to 100 percent, but now 
> it seems like the batteries are having a hard time charging with the old and 
> new cables and bricks.Any thoughts? 
> Thank  you so much.  
> Janet 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:52 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.
> 
> Hi Janet,
> 
> Try the new cable with the old charging brick, and vice versa. See which 
> combination doesn't work.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:42 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna, 
>> Thank you for this, but may I ask how to figure out which is the bad one? 
>> Any suggestions please? 
>> 
>> Janet 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:17 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Sounds like you have either a bad charging brick or a bad cable. Once you 
>> have figured out which you have, contact Apple so you can get the defective 
>> part replaced.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 2:58 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> Does the Lightning Connector that comes with an iPhone xr charge the phone? 
>>> I recently bought the xr phone, but when I plug in the Lightning Connector, 
>>> it does not charge the phone.  So, I've been using the phone 6 charger that 
>>> came with the phone 6 in order to charge my new xr phone.
>>> Any help with this issue will be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Janet
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Janet,

Try doing the Home gesture again; it should scan again. You can also lock and 
then unlock the screen.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:43 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Maria, 
> Unfortunately, that won't work for me.  If the face id doesn't recognize my 
> face the first time, I don't get a second chance, so in order to unlock the 
> phone, I have to enter my pass code.  Smile!  Now, if I have to enter my pass 
> code to unlock the phone when I am out, I don't feel comfortable entering my 
> pass code when out in public though.  I don't think that is a smart thing to 
> do, as one might not know who is around.  I know when I power down the phone 
> I have to enter my pass code.  
> Although, I have to admit when I unlock my phone using face id, I'm quite 
> amazed that the face id can still recognize my face even if I'm in the dark 
> or even if I am wearing my sun glasses, as when I set up the face id feature, 
> I wasn't wearing my sun glasses, and I was in a bright setting, and I even 
> had the screen curtain turned on as I usually do, but I forgot it was on when 
> I was setting up the face id.  I think this alone is quite amazing though!  
> I'm actually blown away by this!  It doesn't take much to please me!  Smile! 
> 
> Janet 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Maria Reyes
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
> 
> Hi Janet, 
> If you completely power down your phone you will have to enter your code then 
> after that you can use Face ID. 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:08 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Aleeha and all,  
>> 
>> Oh how I wish this home gesture would work with my xr phone, because when 
>> face id doesn't work the first time, I have no other choice but to enter my 
>> code, or simply turn off the phone, and try it again.  Although, when I am 
>> out and about, I usually will turn off the phone, and I will then try the 
>> face id instead of entering my code when out in public, as I don't feel 
>> comfortable entering my code when out in public.  
>> 
>> Janet 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:00 PM
>> To: viPhone
>> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This 
>> will initiate a second scan.
>> Aleeha 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
>>> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
>>> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or switch it 
>>> off and wake the iPhone again to try again.
>>> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan with 
>>> a finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with Voice 
>>> Over. No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
>>> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
>>> unfortunately.
>>> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>> 
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RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[janet gross]

Hi Maria, 
 Unfortunately, that won't work for me.  If the face id doesn't recognize my 
face the first time, I don't get a second chance, so in order to unlock the 
phone, I have to enter my pass code.  Smile!  Now, if I have to enter my pass 
code to unlock the phone when I am out, I don't feel comfortable entering my 
pass code when out in public though.  I don't think that is a smart thing to 
do, as one might not know who is around.  I know when I power down the phone I 
have to enter my pass code.  
Although, I have to admit when I unlock my phone using face id, I'm quite 
amazed that the face id can still recognize my face even if I'm in the dark or 
even if I am wearing my sun glasses, as when I set up the face id feature, I 
wasn't wearing my sun glasses, and I was in a bright setting, and I even had 
the screen curtain turned on as I usually do, but I forgot it was on when I was 
setting up the face id.  I think this alone is quite amazing though!  I'm 
actually blown away by this!  It doesn't take much to please me!  Smile! 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Janet, 
If you completely power down your phone you will have to enter your code then 
after that you can use Face ID. 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:08 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Aleeha and all,  
> 
> Oh how I wish this home gesture would work with my xr phone, because when 
> face id doesn't work the first time, I have no other choice but to enter my 
> code, or simply turn off the phone, and try it again.  Although, when I am 
> out and about, I usually will turn off the phone, and I will then try the 
> face id instead of entering my code when out in public, as I don't feel 
> comfortable entering my code when out in public.  
> 
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:00 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
> 
> Hi, 
> You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This 
> will initiate a second scan.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
>> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
>> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or switch it off 
>> and wake the iPhone again to try again.
>> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan with 
>> a finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with Voice 
>> Over. No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
>> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
>> unfortunately.
>> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
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Re: Air Pods, Can You?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Andy,

Yes, you can use AirPods with other Bluetooth devices. Press the button on the 
back, and hold it in for several seconds. Then open the Bluetooth settings on 
your other device and connect the AirPods as you normally connect headphones on 
that device.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
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> Can you use Air Pods with devices other than those made by Apple?
>  
> Andy
>  
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Re: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Janet,

In the last few percents of charge, the phone goes into a trickle charge mode 
where charging is slow so the battery won't overcharge. That's probably why you 
saw it take a while for the battery to go from 99% to 100%.

There was a bug in the software when iOS 12 first came out that meant devices 
sometimes didn't charge if they were locked when you plugged them in. that bug 
was fixed in an update. It's possible that you ran into the bug with the 
charger that came with your phone, and that all of the hardware is actually 
working. Make sure you have the latest version of iOS 12.1, and try the new 
hardware again the next time you need to charge.

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:01 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna, 
> De, I can't believe I didn't even think of that!  Woe, I'm losing it!  Smile! 
>  Ok, I did switch the old and new cables, and the wall bricks, and now, both 
> old and new cables say charging in the status bar on the home screen.  
> Although, it took all this time for the batteries to finally charge from 99 
> percent to 100 percent.  This doesn't sound right.  Since I've had the phone 
> I used it with the old charger, and it would charge to 100 percent, but now 
> it seems like the batteries are having a hard time charging with the old and 
> new cables and bricks.Any thoughts? 
> Thank  you so much.  
> Janet 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:52 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.
> 
> Hi Janet,
> 
> Try the new cable with the old charging brick, and vice versa. See which 
> combination doesn't work.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:42 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna, 
>> Thank you for this, but may I ask how to figure out which is the bad one? 
>> Any suggestions please? 
>> 
>> Janet 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:17 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Sounds like you have either a bad charging brick or a bad cable. Once you 
>> have figured out which you have, contact Apple so you can get the defective 
>> part replaced.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 2:58 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> Does the Lightning Connector that comes with an iPhone xr charge the phone? 
>>> I recently bought the xr phone, but when I plug in the Lightning Connector, 
>>> it does not charge the phone.  So, I've been using the phone 6 charger that 
>>> came with the phone 6 in order to charge my new xr phone.
>>> Any help with this issue will be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Janet
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Seeing AI, After A Little MoreThan A Year

[kelby carlson]

After somewhat frequent use, I remain fairly unimpressed. The primary reason: 
the document channel. My wife (sighted) has verified that more often than not I 
am getting a page of text entirely in the picture and readable to the eye. 
Nevertheless, my results are almost always inconsistent. Sometimes the results 
are good, though almost never perfect. Other times they are terrible. The 
inconsistency can happen even when the pictures are almost identical. We have 
tried this on many, many documents. For reference: an iPhone 7 running iOS 11.4.

I would love to hear contrary testimonials. I have emailed this list in the 
past with similar issues, and the response has been mostly along the lines of 
"you must not be positioning correctly". But at this point I havehave had many 
sighted people verify that in fact I (and they) are positioning the camera 
correctly with bad results.

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Air Pods, Can You?

[Andy Baracco]

Can you use Air Pods with devices other than those made by Apple?

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RE: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Anna, 
De, I can't believe I didn't even think of that!  Woe, I'm losing it!  Smile!  
Ok, I did switch the old and new cables, and the wall bricks, and now, both old 
and new cables say charging in the status bar on the home screen.  Although, it 
took all this time for the batteries to finally charge from 99 percent to 100 
percent.  This doesn't sound right.  Since I've had the phone I used it with 
the old charger, and it would charge to 100 percent, but now it seems like the 
batteries are having a hard time charging with the old and new cables and 
bricks.Any thoughts? 
Thank  you so much.  
Janet 


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Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:52 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.

Hi Janet,

Try the new cable with the old charging brick, and vice versa. See which 
combination doesn't work.

HTH,
Anna




> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:42 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna, 
> Thank you for this, but may I ask how to figure out which is the bad one? 
> Any suggestions please? 
> 
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:17 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sounds like you have either a bad charging brick or a bad cable. Once you 
> have figured out which you have, contact Apple so you can get the defective 
> part replaced.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 2:58 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> Does the Lightning Connector that comes with an iPhone xr charge the phone? 
>> I recently bought the xr phone, but when I plug in the Lightning Connector, 
>> it does not charge the phone.  So, I've been using the phone 6 charger that 
>> came with the phone 6 in order to charge my new xr phone.
>> Any help with this issue will be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Janet
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>> 
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Re: Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS

[Richard Turner]

Well, if I had to do all my word processing on an iDevice, I would use Voice 
Dream Writer.
However, it only edits txt files, but you can export as RTF, Word, and others.
But, you cannot edit Word documents, or anything that isn't plain text.
I'd recommend reading up on its features.
I could try to send you the user guide privately if you would like.  
Voice Dream Writer is $9.99.
Frankly, if you need to edit word or RTF files, I'd stick with a computer, 
since none of the apps work that well with VoiceOver that will allow editing of 
those file types.
HTH,
Richard



"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Daniel McGee  wrote:
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> Hi all
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> So lately, have been seriously considering not purchasing a new Mac device 
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> year for my computing needs.
> 
> Only thing that's stopping me and in which I am hoping that suggestions are 
> most welcome is: recommendations for current word processor apps that are up 
> to date and accessible with voiceover on iOS. 
> 
> I will also be using FlickType full time as well.
> 
> Any thoughts are really appreciated!
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> Thanks
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Re: Removing email account from 6

[Daniel McGee]

On the other hand, unless your selling or getting rid of said iPhone. See no 
reason to delete the account and make use of both devices where you can. Just 
another perspective to consider.

 I have all my email accounts and with IMAP being the most common email type 
these days, what you do on one device, should sync and carry over to others in 
which you use. So that they are all in perfect harmony.

HTH 

Daniel 

> On 18 Nov 2018, at 22:37, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> Go to settings > accounts and passwords and find your account. double tap to 
> open. At the bottom of the screen is a delete account button double tap on 
> that. 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Lisa P. Geibel  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have an i Phone 6 that has my email account attached to it. I upgraded to 
>> an 8+ and would like to remove the account from the 6. I've looked and tried 
>> to figure this out on my own, but have had no success. Could someone please 
>> help me with this? I'm using the latest IOS version. Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[Maria Reyes]

Hi Janet, 
If you completely power down your phone you will have to enter your code then 
after that you can use Face ID. 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:08 PM, janet gross  wrote:
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> Hi Aleeha and all,  
> 
> Oh how I wish this home gesture would work with my xr phone, because when 
> face id doesn't work the first time, I have no other choice but to enter my 
> code, or simply turn off the phone, and try it again.  Although, when I am 
> out and about, I usually will turn off the phone, and I will then try the 
> face id instead of entering my code when out in public, as I don't feel 
> comfortable entering my code when out in public.  
> 
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:00 PM
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> 
> Hi, 
> You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This 
> will initiate a second scan.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
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>> Hi
>> 
>> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
>> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
>> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or switch it off 
>> and wake the iPhone again to try again.
>> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan with 
>> a finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with Voice 
>> Over. No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
>> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
>> unfortunately.
>> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Ronald
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Recommendations for word processor apps for IOS

[Daniel McGee]

Hi all

So lately, have been seriously considering not purchasing a new Mac device and 
just make do with my iPhone 8 and the new iPad that came out earlier this year 
for my computing needs.

Only thing that's stopping me and in which I am hoping that suggestions are 
most welcome is: recommendations for current word processor apps that are up to 
date and accessible with voiceover on iOS. 

I will also be using FlickType full time as well.

Any thoughts are really appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

[Candy Lowe]

hi Ellen, when you get to the group of notifications that you are interested 
in, let’s just say it is USA today, then do a double tap. Right then voiceover 
should say expanded. Then flipped to the right and you should get all 
notifications from USA TODAY.
then, if you flipped back to the left, voiceover will say, show less. in other 
words, those notifications will then be collapsed. I hope this helps. If not, 
just shoot me another text and I’ll be glad to help more.

Sent from my iPhone

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> were with it. Can someone please tell me when I'm notified that I have a 
> group of notifications such as with my Sports Alerts app to drill down and 
> get the separate notifications in the group? I've tried 3D touching on the 
> group, single finger swiping down to get choices of view or manage but 
> neither seems to give the option of seeing the other notifications in the 
> list. I really don't want to be taken to the underlying app but simply would 
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Re: IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

[Maria Reyes]

double tap on the group to expand it. You should see all of the other 
notifications. 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> I remember reading when iOS 12 came out about how much better notifications 
> were with it. Can someone please tell me when I'm notified that I have a 
> group of notifications such as with my Sports Alerts app to drill down and 
> get the separate notifications in the group? I've tried 3D touching on the 
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> neither seems to give the option of seeing the other notifications in the 
> list. I really don't want to be taken to the underlying app but simply would 
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Re: Removing email account from 6

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, 
Go to settings > accounts and passwords and find your account. double tap to 
open. At the bottom of the screen is a delete account button double tap on 
that. 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Lisa P. Geibel  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I have an i Phone 6 that has my email account attached to it. I upgraded to 
> an 8+ and would like to remove the account from the 6. I've looked and tried 
> to figure this out on my own, but have had no success. Could someone please 
> help me with this? I'm using the latest IOS version. Thanks.
> 
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> Facebook:
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Removing email account from 6

[Lisa P. Geibel]

Hi,

I have an i Phone 6 that has my email account attached to it. I upgraded 
to an 8+ and would like to remove the account from the 6. I've looked 
and tried to figure this out on my own, but have had no success. Could 
someone please help me with this? I'm using the latest IOS version. Thanks.


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Re: Air Pods Volume Adjust

[John Panarese]

   I don’t see an option for volume either when I go into Bluetooth settings as 
well on my iPhone XS.


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> the double tap.  i went into Settings, Bluetooth, and under the settings for 
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> other choices, but adjusting the volume is not one of them, so it appears 
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> volume control.
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IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

[Alan Lemly]

I remember reading when iOS 12 came out about how much better notifications
were with it. Can someone please tell me when I'm notified that I have a
group of notifications such as with my Sports Alerts app to drill down and
get the separate notifications in the group? I've tried 3D touching on the
group, single finger swiping down to get choices of view or manage but
neither seems to give the option of seeing the other notifications in the
list. I really don't want to be taken to the underlying app but simply would
like to be able to peruse the other notifications in the group as it used to
do before iOS 12.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

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Re: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Janet,

Try the new cable with the old charging brick, and vice versa. See which 
combination doesn't work.

HTH,
Anna




> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:42 PM, janet gross  wrote:
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> Hi Anna, 
> Thank you for this, but may I ask how to figure out which is the bad one? 
> Any suggestions please? 
> 
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sounds like you have either a bad charging brick or a bad cable. Once you 
> have figured out which you have, contact Apple so you can get the defective 
> part replaced.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 2:58 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> Does the Lightning Connector that comes with an iPhone xr charge the phone? 
>> I recently bought the xr phone, but when I plug in the Lightning Connector, 
>> it does not charge the phone.  So, I've been using the phone 6 charger that 
>> came with the phone 6 in order to charge my new xr phone.
>> Any help with this issue will be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Janet
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RE: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Anna, 
Thank you for this, but may I ask how to figure out which is the bad one? 
Any suggestions please? 

Janet 



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Subject: Re: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.

Hi,

Sounds like you have either a bad charging brick or a bad cable. Once you have 
figured out which you have, contact Apple so you can get the defective part 
replaced.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 18, 2018, at 2:58 PM, janet gross  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> Does the Lightning Connector that comes with an iPhone xr charge the phone? I 
> recently bought the xr phone, but when I plug in the Lightning Connector, it 
> does not charge the phone.  So, I've been using the phone 6 charger that came 
> with the phone 6 in order to charge my new xr phone.
> Any help with this issue will be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
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> Janet
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Air Pods Volume Adjust

[Andy Baracco]

Hi!

An earlier post said that the volume of the Air Pods could be adjusted using 
the double tap.  i went into Settings, Bluetooth, and under the settings for 
the Air Pods Siri is the default for the double tap, and there are a few other 
choices, but adjusting the volume is not one of them, so it appears that you 
can't adjust the volume of Air Pods independently of the device's volume 
control.
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Re: Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Sounds like you have either a bad charging brick or a bad cable. Once you have 
figured out which you have, contact Apple so you can get the defective part 
replaced.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 18, 2018, at 2:58 PM, janet gross  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> Does the Lightning Connector that comes with an iPhone xr charge the phone? I 
> recently bought the xr phone, but when I plug in the Lightning Connector, it 
> does not charge the phone.  So, I've been using the phone 6 charger that came 
> with the phone 6 in order to charge my new xr phone.
> Any help with this issue will be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Janet
> 
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RE: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[janet gross]

Hi Aleeha and all,  
 
Oh how I wish this home gesture would work with my xr phone, because when face 
id doesn't work the first time, I have no other choice but to enter my code, or 
simply turn off the phone, and try it again.  Although, when I am out and 
about, I usually will turn off the phone, and I will then try the face id 
instead of entering my code when out in public, as I don't feel comfortable 
entering my code when out in public.  

Janet 



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Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi, 
You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This will 
initiate a second scan.
Aleeha 

> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
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> Hi
> 
> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or switch it off 
> and wake the iPhone again to try again.
> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan with a 
> finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with Voice Over. 
> No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
> unfortunately.
> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Ronald
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Lightning Connector With Phone XR Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hello Everyone,
Does the Lightning Connector that comes with an iPhone xr charge the phone? I 
recently bought the xr phone, but when I plug in the Lightning Connector, it 
does not charge the phone.  So, I've been using the phone 6 charger that came 
with the phone 6 in order to charge my new xr phone.
Any help with this issue will be appreciated.

Thank you.

Janet





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MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Orbit Reader List

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Maria, Donna, and everyone, 

Please take this conversation and any comments regarding other list 
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Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 11:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader List

Hi Donna,
I know you subscribed with your iCloud address but what happens if you send an 
email to or20-requ...@tech.aph.org?

> On Nov 16, 2018, at 6:21 PM, Lea W Langley  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> I don’t think that this is a discussion of braille displays. I think this is 
> a discussion of how to get on the list to get help.
> 
> I just subscribe to the list using my iCloud email address. If you have an 
> iCloud address, or another word besides Yahoo, maybe you could subscribe. 
> Perhaps if you wouldn’t mind sending me your email information I could 
> subscribe you. I don’t know if that would work or not but I would be willing 
> to give it a try.
> 
> God bless,
> Wren Langley
> PS this is not a flame. I think with the moderator meant was that there was a 
> discussion about how to do things with braille displays. I think that’s with 
> the moderator meant by stopping the thread about real the sleeves. Displays. 
> This though, is different it’s trying to get on a mailing list.
> :-) And everyone be happy it’s Thanksgiving so let’s all give thanks. Love 
> and peace
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 4:22 PM, 'Simon W' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Email accessibil...@oath.com
>> 
>> Maybe they can resolve your problem.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 5:16 PM, GARY WILLIAMS  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry, we didn’t mean to do anything wrong. We have checked our spam and 
>>> nothing there. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
 
 hi, I was able to subscribe with my Gmail address. Did you try checking 
 your spam? 
 
> On Nov 16, 2018, at 11:41 AM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> I just confirmed that not being able to the orbit reader 20 email list is 
> a yahoo server problem. I just subscribed with my iCloud email address & 
> received a confirmation email in a few minutes. 
> 
> Donna
>> 
>> Well..Problem solved! For those who are trying to join the orbit reader 
>> 20 email list..It is most definitly a server problem. Myself & others 
>> who have been unsuccessful in subscribing use Yahoo as our mail server. 
>> 
>> Donna 
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> We have tried several times to get on the Orbit 20 reader list without 
>>> success. We called APH and they said the problem might be with our mail 
>>> server. We don’t think so, but, we were wondering if anyone else using 
>>> Yahoo was able to get on the list. We have been able to get on every 
>>> other list we have subscribed too. 
>>> We were wondering if anyone had any suggestions or thoughts about this 
>>> problem. 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Nancy and Gary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 16:48, Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Your accounts are both logged in to the same service I suspect and it is
> treating it as an exchange or iMap account and syncing across devices.
>
> Especially if you put in your phone information as part of the Win10 setup.
>
>
>
> At least, that is my guesstimate of what is happening.
>
>
>
> Richard
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>
>
>
>
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> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
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> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Robert Wright
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:56 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* puzzling
>
>
>
> I added a friend’s contact information on my phone yesterday. This morning
> I was getting ready to forward an email in the win10 mail app on my pc.
> When I started typing the name the contact I had added on my phone popped
> up. I had never had her contact information before yesterday afternoon.
>
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RE: puzzling

[Richard Turner]

Your accounts are both logged in to the same service I suspect and it is 
treating it as an exchange or iMap account and syncing across devices.
Especially if you put in your phone information as part of the Win10 setup.

At least, that is my guesstimate of what is happening.

Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: puzzling

I added a friend’s contact information on my phone yesterday. This morning I 
was getting ready to forward an email in the win10 mail app on my pc. When I 
started typing the name the contact I had added on my phone popped up. I had 
never had her contact information before yesterday afternoon.

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Re: Orbit Reader List

[Donna]

Hi Maria,

I’m assuming that you want to know what happens if I sent an email to 
or20-reque...@tech.aph.org from my yahoo email? I tried that to subscribe & 
received no confirmation email. That is why I chose to subscribe using my 
iCloud email address. I know little about using JAWs on my computer. And know 
even less about trying to sort out the problem, if even possible, using my 
iPhone. Besides, my family is preparing to move to Colorado in less than a 
month. So I don’t have the time or patience to tackle the task of sorting the 
problem. I am new to using a braille display. So I’m just lurking & reading. 
After we are settled & life isn’t crazy I’ll try sorting out the yahoo email 
problem. 

Donna
> 
> Hi Donna,
> I know you subscribed with your iCloud address but what happens if you send 
> an email to or20-requ...@tech.aph.org?
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 6:21 PM, Lea W Langley  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> I don’t think that this is a discussion of braille displays. I think this is 
>> a discussion of how to get on the list to get help.
>> 
>> I just subscribe to the list using my iCloud email address. If you have an 
>> iCloud address, or another word besides Yahoo, maybe you could subscribe. 
>> Perhaps if you wouldn’t mind sending me your email information I could 
>> subscribe you. I don’t know if that would work or not but I would be willing 
>> to give it a try.
>> 
>> God bless,
>> Wren Langley
>> PS this is not a flame. I think with the moderator meant was that there was 
>> a discussion about how to do things with braille displays. I think that’s 
>> with the moderator meant by stopping the thread about real the sleeves. 
>> Displays. This though, is different it’s trying to get on a mailing list.
>> :-) And everyone be happy it’s Thanksgiving so let’s all give thanks. Love 
>> and peace
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 4:22 PM, 'Simon W' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Email accessibil...@oath.com
>>> 
>>> Maybe they can resolve your problem.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2018, at 5:16 PM, GARY WILLIAMS  
 wrote:
 
 Sorry, we didn’t mean to do anything wrong. We have checked our spam and 
 nothing there. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 16, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> hi, I was able to subscribe with my Gmail address. Did you try checking 
> your spam? 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 11:41 AM, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> I just confirmed that not being able to the orbit reader 20 email list 
>> is a yahoo server problem. I just subscribed with my iCloud email 
>> address & received a confirmation email in a few minutes. 
>> 
>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Well..Problem solved! For those who are trying to join the orbit reader 
>>> 20 email list..It is most definitly a server problem. Myself & others 
>>> who have been unsuccessful in subscribing use Yahoo as our mail server. 
>>> 
>>> Donna 
 
 Hi Everyone,
 We have tried several times to get on the Orbit 20 reader list without 
 success. We called APH and they said the problem might be with our 
 mail server. We don’t think so, but, we were wondering if anyone else 
 using Yahoo was able to get on the list. We have been able to get on 
 every other list we have subscribed too. 
 We were wondering if anyone had any suggestions or thoughts about this 
 problem. 
 Thanks.
 Nancy and Gary
 
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puzzling

[Robert Wright]

I added a friend’s contact information on my phone yesterday. This morning I 
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Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Hi all,

Thanks for your input, will try your suggestions.

Ronald

> Op 18 nov. 2018, om 05:46 heeft Cristobal Muñoz  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Yeah, I'm really not feeling this face ID stuff. Oh well...
> My wife teases me that I've suddenly become all selfy-crazed. She's calling 
> me Mr. Vane. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:22 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When the code screen comes up, doing the home gesture usually works fine for 
> me. Make sure you're holding your phone at least a foot away from your face 
> when you scan.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronald, 
>> Have you tried retraining Face ID? In other words have you tried reseting 
>> Face ID and setting it up again? 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Aleeha,
>>> 
>>> Doesn't seem to work here. When the code screen pops up, you cannot scan 
>>> again and have to put in your code to enable face id again.
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>> .
 Op 17 nov. 2018, om 19:00 heeft Aleeha Dudley  
 het volgende geschreven:
 
 Hi, 
 You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This 
 will initiate a second scan.
 Aleeha 
 
> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now 
> and then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the 
> scan tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or 
> switch it off and wake the iPhone again to try again.
> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan 
> with a finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with 
> Voice Over. No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
> unfortunately.
> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Ronald
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