Re: OT; Facebook commands

[Wes Smith]

 When you find a post that you wanna share,turn the rotor to actions, then 
flick up until you get to share, then double tap, it also could be in the more  
 Menu,  but I am unsure, I haven’t used Facebook in a while!
 Hope this helps :-) 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> Hi everyone;
> I am trying to figure out using voiceover on my iPhone 10r how executesome 
> Facebook commands that are not readily available such as copying a post and 
> sharing a post to
> 
> my time line.
> Please help?
> Thank you in advance Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
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Re: How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?

[Jim Fettgather]

I accidentally turned on two factor authentication while setting up a New Mac 
computer, and have regretted it ever since.
I do not think there is a way to turn it off, I find it highly annoying!


From: Alex Stone 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?

Unfortunately I don’t think you can. I tried to do this a couple of months ago. 
It looks to me like, once its on youre stuck with it.


Sent from my iPhone


  On 2 Aug 2019, at 23:21, Cris Ali  wrote:


   
  Hello folks,

  Does anyone know how to turn off the two factor authentication?  I tried to 
do that from the iPhone settings and I was not able to do that.  I also logged 
on to the AppleId site on my desktop and I could not find any check boxes or 
drop down menus to turn it off.  It shows under security as turned on, but it 
does not give me any choices to turn it off.  Does anyone know how to do that?

   

  I appreciate any help.

   

  Cheers,

   

  Cris

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OT; Facebook commands

[Anthony Vece]

Hi everyone;
I am trying to figure out using voiceover on my iPhone 10r how executesome 
Facebook commands that are not readily available such as copying a post and 
sharing a post to

my time line.
Please help?
Thank you in advance Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

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Re: Question about Siri

[Richard Turner]

No, they are not getting rid of anything.
They are stopping a program of quality control because they had human staff 
listening to recordings to determine if Siri was getting things correct, but 
that meant people's privacy was being compromised. 
HTH,


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
 

> On Aug 2, 2019, at 6:28 PM, GARY WILLIAMS  wrote:
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> Hi,
> I heard something on the news tonight about Siri. Not sure exactly sure what 
> they said, but it seemed that they might be doing away with either Siri or 
> Hay Siri. Does anyone know anything about that? It had something to do with 
> Privacy. Surely they are not doing away with Siri. 
> Thanks for any information on what this might mean for Siri. 
> Nancy and Gary
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RE: How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?

[Robert Wright]

Yes, once it is on it cannot be removed.


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From: Alex Stone
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 4:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?

Unfortunately I don’t think you can. I tried to do this a couple of months ago. 
It looks to me like, once its on youre stuck with it.
Sent from my iPhone


On 2 Aug 2019, at 23:21, Cris Ali  wrote:
 
Hello folks,
Does anyone know how to turn off the two factor authentication?  I tried to do 
that from the iPhone settings and I was not able to do that.  I also logged on 
to the AppleId site on my desktop and I could not find any check boxes or drop 
down menus to turn it off.  It shows under security as turned on, but it does 
not give me any choices to turn it off.  Does anyone know how to do that?
 
I appreciate any help.
 
Cheers,
 
Cris
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Question about Siri

[GARY WILLIAMS]

Hi,
I heard something on the news tonight about Siri. Not sure exactly sure what 
they said, but it seemed that they might be doing away with either Siri or Hay 
Siri. Does anyone know anything about that? It had something to do with 
Privacy. Surely they are not doing away with Siri. 
Thanks for any information on what this might mean for Siri. 
Nancy and Gary
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Re: How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?

[Alex Stone]

Unfortunately I don’t think you can. I tried to do this a couple of months ago. 
It looks to me like, once its on youre stuck with it.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2 Aug 2019, at 23:21, Cris Ali  wrote:


Hello folks,
Does anyone know how to turn off the two factor authentication?  I tried to do 
that from the iPhone settings and I was not able to do that.  I also logged on 
to the AppleId site on my desktop and I could not find any check boxes or drop 
down menus to turn it off.  It shows under security as turned on, but it does 
not give me any choices to turn it off.  Does anyone know how to do that?

I appreciate any help.

Cheers,

Cris

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Re: Dick Tatian problem

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

just don't ask the device for 30 thousand pounds of bananas. See the late 
harry Chapin for the reference.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Fettgather

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 14:07
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dick Tatian problem

Perhaps instead of trying to improve Siri's voice in IOS 13, maybe the
dictation could be fixed?
It is not horrible, but dictation is far more accurate on other platforms.

On 8/2/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
There are lots of dictation tips and tricks, but some of them never work 
for

me. For example, if I dicate to SIRI something like this:

Buy 6 bananas SIRI always or usually writes the number six as a word and 
not

the number 6.
I read you should say the word "numeral" in front of a number if you want
this number to be written as a number. I tried this and got "Buy numeral 
six

bananas".

And I can't believe you still can't say "spell this" or another trigger 
word

and then get SIRI to spell out a word which I know for sure it will get
wrong otherwise. I mean, it's been 8 years since SIRI and dictation were
introduced, come on Apple.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Andy

Baracco
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dick Tatian problem

www.applevis.com has a good podcast concerning dictation tips and tricks.

Andy

- Original Message -
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To: "viPhone E-Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 7:37 AM
Subject: Dick Tatian problem




Sent from my iPhone hello everyone I am having a problem using the 
dictation


on the iPhone. I’m using an iPhone 6. When I try to give out any email
address it just is not coming out the way it supposed to you’ll get a 
letter


off when I try and give it even after I tried spelling my email address 
and


I’m wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
Michael

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How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?

[Cris Ali]

Hello folks,
Does anyone know how to turn off the two factor authentication?  I tried to do 
that from the iPhone settings and I was not able to do that.  I also logged on 
to the AppleId site on my desktop and I could not find any check boxes or drop 
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not give me any choices to turn it off.  Does anyone know how to do that?

I appreciate any help.

Cheers,

Cris

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Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

I have the botac connected I really don't remember how I set it up now, but I 
think I needed cited help for the very original setup. mind you, the app was 
much less access a ball then. One time, when I got into a mess with it, and 
there was no one here with me, are used  be my eyes to sort it out. most of the 
time, I don't use the app I just press the button. in the past I have had 
several roombersand more recently the Neato, I find the Neato is the best! it 
is also cheaper and has very good mobility skills, better than mine… I don't 
know about the more recent roombers, but one thing  the neato does, if it  
can't get back to the doc, it goes back to the place where you set it off. So, 
you always know where it will be.

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 2 Aug 2019, at 21:23, Marie  wrote:
> 
> Sandy,
> Which model Neato do you have and were you able to connect to wifi without 
> sighted assistance?
>  
>  
> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 12:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
> robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
> August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s
>  
> Sieghard,
> Now any kind of collie is going to be a challenge to a lot of hoovers 
> especially those with rotating brushes. even though your mum had the task of 
> completely emptying and re-systemising the brushes and the bin, her floors 
> did  get hoovered! if a person is a bit arthritic or, like me, doesn't see at 
> all, hoovering is very problematic. unless you're home is completely empty, 
> something very difficult to achieve when you live with other people, 
> hoovering is a pain in the neck when you don't see. so, although I don't have 
> to empty mind every time, even if I did, I would find it a very reasonable 
> trade-off for  nice clean floors and no headache. as for all this setting it 
> going via Siri, I did once set  it off With  Alexa, but my poor neato botvac 
> proceeded to bang its head repeatedly against the wall until I sent it home. 
> generally speaking, it's easiest just to press the button.
> Simply sparkling Sandy
>  
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 2 Aug 2019, at 19:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her 
>> border collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still hadhim she 
>> said she pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every 
>> cleaning/use and completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would 
>>  not function properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her 
>> experience I decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic 
>> vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 
>> 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely 
>> Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that it 
>> will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
>> yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for 
>> remote control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their 
>> Neato vacuum to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up 
>> shortcuts to tell the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be 
>> able to send the vacuum to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If 
>> you're not the type to talk to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will 
>> attempt to to learn when and where to sweep and offer lock-screen 
>> suggestions. There's no specific time frame for when this update will 
>> release. Neato has stated this update will roll out with a firmware update 
>> set to release this fall, likely following the release of iOS 13 and macOS 
>> Catalina. All of Neato's current vacuums are set to get the update. Neato 
>> vacuums currently work with myriad services, including an Apple Watch app, 
>> Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and even through Facebook 
>> Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was built 
>> from Workflow, an app that Apple purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers app 
>> and system control options through a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 
>> invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed the Neato Botvac Connected back in 
>> 2016, and found it to be one of the best robot vacuum cleaners available on 
>> the market. In addition to offering controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it 
>> also supports complex scheduling functions, cleans very well, and is 

RE: How do I keep from muting Sounds?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks. I tend to have problems with Rotor. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I keep from muting Sounds?

You probably have your rotor turned to Sounds and every time you swipe up or 
down you mute the sounds.
My suggestion is to go to Voiceover Settings > Rotor and find Sounds, if it is 
selected double tap on it to unselect it and it will no longer be an option in 
the rotor.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I keep from muting Sounds?

For some reason, Sounds will come up on my screen, and I have a time keeping it 
from being muted - sometimes have to go to 

Settings
General
Accessibilities
VoiceOver
then Audio. 

Anyone have any idea how I can just stabilize. I don't know why I'd want it 
off. 

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn
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Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

[Marie]

Sandy,
Which model Neato do you have and were you able to connect to wifi without 
sighted assistance?


From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

Sieghard,
Now any kind of collie is going to be a challenge to a lot of hoovers 
especially those with rotating brushes. even though your mum had the task of 
completely emptying and re-systemising the brushes and the bin, her floors did  
get hoovered! if a person is a bit arthritic or, like me, doesn't see at all, 
hoovering is very problematic. unless you're home is completely empty, 
something very difficult to achieve when you live with other people, hoovering 
is a pain in the neck when you don't see. so, although I don't have to empty 
mind every time, even if I did, I would find it a very reasonable trade-off for 
 nice clean floors and no headache. as for all this setting it going via Siri, 
I did once set  it off With  Alexa, but my poor neato botvac proceeded to bang 
its head repeatedly against the wall until I sent it home. generally speaking, 
it's easiest just to press the button.
Simply sparkling Sandy

Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 2 Aug 2019, at 19:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


  The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her 
border collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still had him she said 
she pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every cleaning/use 
and completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would  not function 
properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her experience I 
decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic 
vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 
2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

   

  Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely 
Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)

   

   

  Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that it 
will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for remote 
control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their Neato vacuum 
to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up shortcuts to tell 
the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be able to send the vacuum 
to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If you're not the type to talk 
to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will attempt to to learn when and where 
to sweep and offer lock-screen suggestions. There's no specific time frame for 
when this update will release. Neato has stated this update will roll out with 
a firmware update set to release this fall, likely following the release of iOS 
13 and macOS Catalina. All of Neato's current vacuums are set to get the 
update. Neato vacuums currently work with myriad services, including an Apple 
Watch app, Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and even through 
Facebook Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was 
built from Workflow, an app that Apple purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers 
app and system control options through a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 
invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed the Neato Botvac Connected back in 2016, 
and found it to be one of the best robot vacuum cleaners available on the 
market. In addition to offering controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it also 
supports complex scheduling functions, cleans very well, and is easy to empty 
and clean. .

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RE: Downloading envision AI?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Fazil,

 

I had previously downloaded Envision AI to my iPhone 8 but had never set up an 
online account with them. When I opened the app yesterday to look into the 
steep discounts they've been promoting, I went ahead and selected the option to 
create an account using my email address and the password I provided. Since the 
app had already been downloaded, I was not prompted to provide my Apple ID but 
I'm sure I used Touch ID when I originally downloaded it. After logging in with 
my new account, I heard Voiceover speak that I was using the 14-day free trial.

 

I don't know if any of the above helps but I thought I'd provide the details of 
my account setup experience in case it might.

 

Good luck with your efforts. I know others have posted about why one would need 
Envision AI with the other free or less expensive options available but there 
are aspects of the Envision AI user interface that I do like. And while $38 for 
a lifetime license isn't inexpensive, that is a significant discount from its 
usual price.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fazil
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Downloading envision AI?

 

Hi, list.

I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.

I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but it 
does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I double 
tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my Apple ID 
and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right away 
without giving me 14-day-trial?

Thanks!

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Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

Sieghard,
Now any kind of collie is going to be a challenge to a lot of hoovers 
especially those with rotating brushes. even though your mum had the task of 
completely emptying and re-systemising the brushes and the bin, her floors did  
get hoovered! if a person is a bit arthritic or, like me, doesn't see at all, 
hoovering is very problematic. unless you're home is completely empty, 
something very difficult to achieve when you live with other people, hoovering 
is a pain in the neck when you don't see. so, although I don't have to empty 
mind every time, even if I did, I would find it a very reasonable trade-off for 
 nice clean floors and no headache. as for all this setting it going via Siri, 
I did once set  it off With  Alexa, but my poor neato botvac proceeded to bang 
its head repeatedly against the wall until I sent it home. generally speaking, 
it's easiest just to press the button.
Simply sparkling Sandy

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 2 Aug 2019, at 19:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her 
> border collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still had him she said 
> she pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every cleaning/use 
> and completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would  not function 
> properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her experience I 
> decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic 
> vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 
> 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s
>  
> Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely 
> Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)
>  
>  
> Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that it 
> will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
> yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for remote 
> control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their Neato 
> vacuum to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up shortcuts 
> to tell the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be able to send 
> the vacuum to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If you're not the 
> type to talk to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will attempt to to learn 
> when and where to sweep and offer lock-screen suggestions. There's no 
> specific time frame for when this update will release. Neato has stated this 
> update will roll out with a firmware update set to release this fall, likely 
> following the release of iOS 13 and macOS Catalina. All of Neato's current 
> vacuums are set to get the update. Neato vacuums currently work with myriad 
> services, including an Apple Watch app, Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, 
> Google Assistant, and even through Facebook Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted 
> in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was built from Workflow, an app that Apple 
> purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers app and system control options through 
> a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed 
> the Neato Botvac Connected back in 2016, and found it to be one of the best 
> robot vacuum cleaners available on the market. In addition to offering 
> controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it also supports complex scheduling 
> functions, cleans very well, and is easy to empty and clean. .
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Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

[Esther Levegnale]

I also have a central vacuum system, plus a Roomba robotic vacuum cleaner.  The 
Roomba goes all over the house and if there is extra cleaning to do, it may do 
some areas twice, but most of the time it vacuums once.  I have a little bird 
which is a cockatiel and I often wonder what he thinks when he sees the thing 
go all over the living room!  Smiley.  For those of you who don’t know what a 
cockatiel is, he is a small parrot and if I must say, he’s 14 and really 
adorable!

Esther

Sent From Esther’s Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> Yup, I've been thinking about going the central vac route and even have a bid 
> on what it will cost.  I'm thinking that is the way I will go.
>  
> ,Daily memo; 
> Handle  stress  like  a dog, if you can not eat it, or play with it,
> pee on it and walk  away!!
>  
> Kay malmquist
> Skype name:  kayleebuttercup
> Email: kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 1:29 PM
> Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
> robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
> August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s
> 
> Exactly, we have a central vac system which is very powerful and getting out 
> the hose and vacuuming our entire 1,100 square foot upstairs takes maybe 10 
> or 15 minutes. Then maybe every 3 or 4 month I go downstairs, take off the 
> bucket and dump it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 11:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
> robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
> August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s
>  
> That is to bad.  I have read a lot of reviews about them and they are pretty 
> favorable.  With having several cats and dogs, that was my complaint about 
> the Roomba's I had as well.  Cleaning the brushes and roller took more time 
> then the vacuuming did.
>  
> ,Daily memo; 
> Handle  stress  like  a dog, if you can not eat it, or play with it,
> pee on it and walk  away!!
>  
> Kay malmquist
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> Email: kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 1:16 PM
> Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
> robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
> August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s
>  
> The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her 
> border collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still had him she said 
> she pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every cleaning/use 
> and completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would  not function 
> properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her experience I 
> decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic 
> vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 
> 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s
>  
> Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the  fall By Amber 
> Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)
>  
>  
> Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that it 
> will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
> yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for remote 
> control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their Neato 
> vacuum to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up shortcuts 
> to tell the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be able to send 
> the vacuum to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If you're not the 
> type to talk to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will attempt to to learn 
> when and where to sweep and offer lock-screen suggestions. There's no 
> specific time frame for when this update will release. Neato has stated this 
> update will roll out with a firmware update set to release this fall, likely 
> following the release of iOS 13 and macOS Catalina. All of Neato's current 
> vacuums are set to get the update. Neato vacuums currently work with myriad 
> services, including an Apple Watch app, Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, 
> Google Assistant, and even through Facebook Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted 
> in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was built from Workflow, an app that Apple 
> purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers app and system control options through 
> a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 

Re: Downloading envision AI?

[Richard Turner]

It will empty your bank account faster than Seeing AI.
 It will empty your bank account faster than seeing AI.

Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


On Aug 2, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:

 As do i.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Just curious, but what specifically does this app do for you that Seeing AI and 
other apps don’t do just as well or better?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?

Yes, I also have the same scenario..
Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Dave Jones 
mailto:grou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging back 
into the app.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil 
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Hi, list.
I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but it 
does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I double 
tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my Apple ID 
and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right away 
without giving me 14-day-trial?
Thanks!
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Re: Downloading envision AI?

[Penny Reeder]

As do i.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Just curious, but what specifically does this app do for you that Seeing AI 
> and other apps don’t do just as well or better?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?
>  
> Yes, I also have the same scenario..
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
> On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Dave Jones  wrote:
> 
>  I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
> email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging 
> back into the app.
>  
>  
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil  wrote:
> Hi, list.
> I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
> I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but 
> it does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I 
> double tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my 
> Apple ID and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right 
> away without giving me 14-day-trial?
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RE: Downloading envision AI?

[Fazil]

You are absolutely write, Sieghard.

I think the only benefit is that it reads .pdf  and it is said that it can give 
you barcode, for me it is still to be verified.

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Downloading envision AI?

 

Just curious, but what specifically does this app do for you that Seeing AI and 
other apps don’t do just as well or better?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?

 

Yes, I also have the same scenario..

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!


On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Dave Jones mailto:grou...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging back 
into the app.

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, list.

I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.

I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but it 
does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I double 
tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my Apple ID 
and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right away 
without giving me 14-day-trial?

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Re: Dick Tatian problem

[Holly]

Siegardt:

I get what you mean there.  When I am facing a dictation that I am sure Siri 
will not be able to understand, I then go to the message app and dictate the 
message by using the dictate button.  That way, I can go back and edit the 
text.


Siri has a very hard time with names of people or places. 


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Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

[Kay Malmquist]

Yup, I've been thinking about going the central vac route and even have a 
bid on what it will cost.  I'm thinking that is the way I will go.

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pee on it and walk  away!!

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 1:29 PM
  Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s


  Exactly, we have a central vac system which is very powerful and getting 
out the hose and vacuuming our entire 1,100 square foot upstairs takes maybe 
10 or 15 minutes. Then maybe every 3 or 4 month I go downstairs, take off 
the bucket and dump it.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 11:29 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s



  That is to bad.  I have read a lot of reviews about them and they are 
pretty favorable.  With having several cats and dogs, that was my complaint 
about the Roomba's I had as well.  Cleaning the brushes and roller took more 
time then the vacuuming did.



  ,Daily memo;
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  pee on it and walk  away!!



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- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s



The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her 
border collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still had him she said 
she pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every 
cleaning/use and completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would 
not function properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her 
experience I decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s



Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber 
Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)





Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that 
it will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for 
remote control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their 
Neato vacuum to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up 
shortcuts to tell the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be 
able to send the vacuum to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If 
you're not the type to talk to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will 
attempt to to learn when and where to sweep and offer lock-screen 
suggestions. There's no specific time frame for when this update will 
release. Neato has stated this update will roll out with a firmware update 
set to release this fall, likely following the release of iOS 13 and macOS 
Catalina. All of Neato's current vacuums are set to get the update. Neato 
vacuums currently work with myriad services, including an Apple Watch app, 
Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and even through Facebook 
Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was built 
from Workflow, an app that Apple purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers app 
and system control options through a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 
invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed the Neato Botvac Connected back in 
2016, and found it to be one of the best robot vacuum cleaners available on 
the market. In addition to offering controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it 
also supports complex scheduling functions, cleans very well, and is easy to 
empty and clean. .

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RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Exactly, we have a central vac system which is very powerful and getting out 
the hose and vacuuming our entire 1,100 square foot upstairs takes maybe 10 or 
15 minutes. Then maybe every 3 or 4 month I go downstairs, take off the bucket 
and dump it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

That is to bad.  I have read a lot of reviews about them and they are pretty 
favorable.  With having several cats and dogs, that was my complaint about the 
Roomba's I had as well.  Cleaning the brushes and roller took more time then 
the vacuuming did.

,Daily memo;
Handle  stress  like  a dog, if you can not eat it, or play with it,
pee on it and walk  away!!

Kay malmquist
Skype name:  kayleebuttercup
Email: kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her border 
collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still had him she said she 
pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every cleaning/use and 
completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would  not function 
properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her experience I 
decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic 
vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 
2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s


Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely 
Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)




Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that it 
will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for remote 
control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their Neato vacuum 
to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up shortcuts to tell 
the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be able to send the vacuum 
to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If you're not the type to talk 
to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will attempt to to learn when and where 
to sweep and offer lock-screen suggestions. There's no specific time frame for 
when this update will release. Neato has stated this update will roll out with 
a firmware update set to release this fall, likely following the release of iOS 
13 and macOS Catalina. All of Neato's current vacuums are set to get the 
update. Neato vacuums currently work with myriad services, including an Apple 
Watch app, Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and even through 
Facebook Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was 
built from Workflow, an app that Apple purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers 
app and system control options through a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 
invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed the Neato Botvac Connected back in 2016, 
and found it to be one of the best robot vacuum cleaners available on the 
market. In addition to offering controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it also 
supports complex scheduling functions, cleans very well, and is easy to empty 
and clean. .
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RE: Dick Tatian problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Holly,

Yes, SIRI can do this just fine as can Alexa or the Google Assistant.
But what I am talking about is to get SIRI to spell a word while I am dictating 
text for example in a text or iMessage or an email.
I live in northwestern BC and we have a mountain range here called the Babine 
Mountains.
Try to get SIRI to write "I went hiking in the Babine Mountains" by dictating 
this phrase.
I get things like "I went hiking in te black bean mountains" or "I went hiking 
in the bed be in mountains" and all sorts of stuff.
Why can't I say "I went hiking in the {spell this} B a B I n e mountains" where 
the "spell this" would trigger SIRI to spell out the next word and insert it 
letter by letter.
This is just one example, there are so many times where you have a name or 
place name or something else you just know SIRI will not get right where you 
could spell it out if that were supported.

the river which runs next to our town is called the Bulkley River.

we have 

Home speakers

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dick Tatian problem

Hi Siegardt:

I always ask Siri to spell words.  Usually for the Jumble puzzle in the morning 
paper.

Just say 'Siri, how do you spell.. say word.  She usually gets it right most of 
the time for me. 

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Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

[Kay Malmquist]

That is to bad.  I have read a lot of reviews about them and they are pretty 
favorable.  With having several cats and dogs, that was my complaint about 
the Roomba's I had as well.  Cleaning the brushes and roller took more time 
then the vacuuming did.

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  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 1:16 PM
  Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s


  The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her 
border collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still had him she said 
she pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every 
cleaning/use and completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would 
not function properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her 
experience I decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s



  Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely 
Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)





  Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that 
it will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for 
remote control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their 
Neato vacuum to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up 
shortcuts to tell the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be 
able to send the vacuum to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If 
you're not the type to talk to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will 
attempt to to learn when and where to sweep and offer lock-screen 
suggestions. There's no specific time frame for when this update will 
release. Neato has stated this update will roll out with a firmware update 
set to release this fall, likely following the release of iOS 13 and macOS 
Catalina. All of Neato's current vacuums are set to get the update. Neato 
vacuums currently work with myriad services, including an Apple Watch app, 
Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and even through Facebook 
Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was built 
from Workflow, an app that Apple purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers app 
and system control options through a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 
invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed the Neato Botvac Connected back in 
2016, and found it to be one of the best robot vacuum cleaners available on 
the market. In addition to offering controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it 
also supports complex scheduling functions, cleans very well, and is easy to 
empty and clean. .

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Dick Tatian problem

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

No joke Sieghard. 
I looked at the accessibility settings on an Android the other night 
that a friend had, and paid very little for, since it was through Virgin 
Mobile. Right off, there were 3 options, none of which indicated anything you 
could intuitively select. I hand it to Apple that at least things listed in 
settings are usually fairly obvious, plus they have the explanation under the 
item to be selected or turned off. 
I can't tell you how many times I ask Seeri to dial a person, and I get 
that she can look it up on line for me. I'm talking about persons who are in my 
Contact App.
Between the added fussing on the iPhone and the crappy response I am 
getting through my current server,Verizon, I might experiment with cheaper 
options, and see what I get for a fraction of the cost.
The kind of dictation issue I have is when the voice over instruction 
to double tap with a single finger... gets plugged in when I start dictating. 
These seem like such easy issues to resolve, but then what would I know about 
that? 

Deidre
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dick Tatian problem

There are lots of dictation tips and tricks, but some of them never work for 
me. For example, if I dicate to SIRI something like this:

Buy 6 bananas SIRI always or usually writes the number six as a word and not 
the number 6.
I read you should say the word "numeral" in front of a number if you want this 
number to be written as a number. I tried this and got "Buy numeral six 
bananas".

And I can't believe you still can't say "spell this" or another trigger word 
and then get SIRI to spell out a word which I know for sure it will get wrong 
otherwise. I mean, it's been 8 years since SIRI and dictation were introduced, 
come on Apple.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dick Tatian problem

www.applevis.com has a good podcast concerning dictation tips and tricks.

Andy

- Original Message - 
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To: "viPhone E-Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 7:37 AM
Subject: Dick Tatian problem




Sent from my iPhone hello everyone I am having a problem using the dictation 
on the iPhone. I’m using an iPhone 6. When I try to give out any email 
address it just is not coming out the way it supposed to you’ll get a letter 
off when I try and give it even after I tried spelling my email address and 
I’m wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
Michael

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RE: Downloading envision AI?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just curious, but what specifically does this app do for you that Seeing AI and 
other apps don’t do just as well or better?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?

Yes, I also have the same scenario..
Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Dave Jones 
mailto:grou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging back 
into the app.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, list.
I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but it 
does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I double 
tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my Apple ID 
and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right away 
without giving me 14-day-trial?
Thanks!
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RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her border 
collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still had him she said she 
pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every cleaning/use and 
completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would  not function 
properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her experience I 
decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic 
vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 
2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s


Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely 
Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)




Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that it 
will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for remote 
control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their Neato vacuum 
to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up shortcuts to tell 
the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be able to send the vacuum 
to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If you're not the type to talk 
to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will attempt to to learn when and where 
to sweep and offer lock-screen suggestions. There's no specific time frame for 
when this update will release. Neato has stated this update will roll out with 
a firmware update set to release this fall, likely following the release of iOS 
13 and macOS Catalina. All of Neato's current vacuums are set to get the 
update. Neato vacuums currently work with myriad services, including an Apple 
Watch app, Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and even through 
Facebook Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was 
built from Workflow, an app that Apple purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers 
app and system control options through a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 
invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed the Neato Botvac Connected back in 2016, 
and found it to be one of the best robot vacuum cleaners available on the 
market. In addition to offering controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it also 
supports complex scheduling functions, cleans very well, and is easy to empty 
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Re: Dick Tatian problem

[Holly]

Hi Siegardt:

I always ask Siri to spell words.  Usually for the Jumble puzzle in the 
morning paper.


Just say 'Siri, how do you spell.. say word.  She usually gets it right most 
of the time for me. 


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Re: Dick Tatian problem

[Jim Fettgather]

Perhaps instead of trying to improve Siri's voice in IOS 13, maybe the
dictation could be fixed?
It is not horrible, but dictation is far more accurate on other platforms.

On 8/2/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> There are lots of dictation tips and tricks, but some of them never work for
> me. For example, if I dicate to SIRI something like this:
>
> Buy 6 bananas SIRI always or usually writes the number six as a word and not
> the number 6.
> I read you should say the word "numeral" in front of a number if you want
> this number to be written as a number. I tried this and got "Buy numeral six
> bananas".
>
> And I can't believe you still can't say "spell this" or another trigger word
> and then get SIRI to spell out a word which I know for sure it will get
> wrong otherwise. I mean, it's been 8 years since SIRI and dictation were
> introduced, come on Apple.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy
> Baracco
> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dick Tatian problem
>
> www.applevis.com has a good podcast concerning dictation tips and tricks.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike" 
> To: "viPhone E-Mail List" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 7:37 AM
> Subject: Dick Tatian problem
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone hello everyone I am having a problem using the dictation
>
> on the iPhone. I’m using an iPhone 6. When I try to give out any email
> address it just is not coming out the way it supposed to you’ll get a letter
>
> off when I try and give it even after I tried spelling my email address and
>
> I’m wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
> Michael
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RE: Dick Tatian problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are lots of dictation tips and tricks, but some of them never work for 
me. For example, if I dicate to SIRI something like this:

Buy 6 bananas SIRI always or usually writes the number six as a word and not 
the number 6.
I read you should say the word "numeral" in front of a number if you want this 
number to be written as a number. I tried this and got "Buy numeral six 
bananas".

And I can't believe you still can't say "spell this" or another trigger word 
and then get SIRI to spell out a word which I know for sure it will get wrong 
otherwise. I mean, it's been 8 years since SIRI and dictation were introduced, 
come on Apple.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dick Tatian problem

www.applevis.com has a good podcast concerning dictation tips and tricks.

Andy

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To: "viPhone E-Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 7:37 AM
Subject: Dick Tatian problem




Sent from my iPhone hello everyone I am having a problem using the dictation 
on the iPhone. I’m using an iPhone 6. When I try to give out any email 
address it just is not coming out the way it supposed to you’ll get a letter 
off when I try and give it even after I tried spelling my email address and 
I’m wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
Michael

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RE: setting up iPhone8 As New Phone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you don't do iCloud backups then no, but I believe iCloud backup is on by 
default. You can check it by going to Settings, tap on your name/Apple Id at 
the top and find iCloud, then swipe down that list until you find iCloud Backup 
and see if it's on and when the last backup was.
Also, if you select not to restore from a backup or you select an iTunes backup 
then nothing gets restored from any iCloud backup.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: setting up iPhone8 As New Phone?

Thanks much, Ed, just a quick explanation, you wrote:
" Your phone will now start to sync all of your settings from iCloud."
Would the phone sync all settings from iCloud even though I have backed it up 
on my computer via iTune?
Thanks


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 8:50 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: setting up iPhone8 As New Phone?

Hello Fuzzel,

To reset your phone and restore from back up you will have to make sure you 
have backed up with iCloud or iTunes first. The phone will have to be plugged 
in and you then can find the back up settings in your iCloud profile in 
settings on your phone. After it has finished backing up make sure find my 
iPhone is turned off and then you will have to navigate to settings, General, 
reset and then activate  erase all content and settings. You may have to type 
in a passcode if you have one set up.

This will take a little while as the iPhone will redownload the last version of 
iOS. You then will be asked if you want to restore from a back up or set up as 
new. You will want to pick the restore from back up option. 

Your phone will now start to sync all of your settings from iCloud.

This may take a while.

I hope this helps.

Ed W.

 

> On Aug 1, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hi, list.
> I want to set up iPhone8 as a new phone.
> If I do that, can the phone get the data that I backup via iTune?
> Should I (I don’t know how to ask this,) I mean I have to format the phone 
> before restoring it as a new phone?
> Thanks!
> Thanks!
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RE: Best choice for a bluetooth keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

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Subject: Re: Best choice for a bluetooth keyboard



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2019, at 4:32 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:
> 
> I had to return that keyboard when I purchased it a while back. One of the 
> keys got stuck. not buying it again.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/21/2019 3:25 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
>> i bought the Matias keyboard from AT Guys.  It is a full size keyboard 
>> including separate numpad.  It pairs with 4 different devices and can switch 
>> with the press of a key.  Battery life is about a year.  It does not fold, 
>> and thus isn't very portable.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Joe Orozco" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 9:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: Best choice for a bluetooth keyboard
>> 
>> 
>> I bought the Pluggable Bluetooth keyboard from AT Guys at the NFB 
>> convention. It folds in three and fits into a small portable book 
>> form. The keys are exceptional, but note that it does not have the 
>> numberpad. Keep in mind that using JAWS with laptop key layout can be 
>> advantageous though.
>> 
>> Joe;
>> 
>>> On 7/21/19, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:
>>> Sieghard,
>>> 
>>> Did you figure out all function keys? that's one thing I'm trying to 
>>> figure out. read the quickstart guide but that thing's a pain to 
>>> deal with when using a screen reader due to its layout. It'll 
>>> probably benefit us all if you have that info. thanks in advance for any 
>>> help!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7/21/2019 2:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 The K780 is a bit on the heavy side because it is weighted so it 
 doesn't fall over if you put an iPad into the slot in the back 
 which is designed to hold a phone or iPad, but it would fit what 
 you describe otherwise perfectly. It is compact yet has basically 
 full-sized keys and a number pad, it has the inverted T cursor 
 keys, but not the block of 6 keys above that which you usually find 
 on a full-size keyboard between the main keyboard area and the 
 numeric pad. It does have a full-sized numeric pad, though.
 I also use it as my main keyboard at home primarily with my laptop 
 and Jaws, but I have my iPhone paired to it and it can take up to 
 three devices.
 Keep in mind two things, however:
 1. The function keys have no gaps between F4 and F5 and F8 and F9 
 2. You have to install the Logitech Options software on your laptop 
 if you want to use the function keys the traditional way, otherwise 
 you have to press the FN keys, e.g. Jaws Key + F12 would not give 
 you the time unless you also pressed the FN key at the same time. 
 Once Logitech Options is installed it's a fairly simple thing to 
 press tab until you hear "Use F1 -
 F12 as standard function keys" and to check that checkbox. Once 
 done you don't really ever need to use it again, but you can't 
 uninstall it or your function keys go back to being media keys.
 Lastly, there is only one Windows Key and no application key.
 
 If you want a very traditional keyboard with enhanced 104 key 
 layout, 2 Windows keys, an application key and media controls as 
 well as the ability to handle a PC and one Bluetooth capable device 
 you could go for the Logitech G613 mechanical wireless gaming 
 keyboard. But it is a relatively heavy, quite large mechanical 
 keyboard and while fantastic to type on, it is probably not 
 something you want to stick into your little backpack to bring along.
 The K780 once setup with Logitech Options/regular function key use 
 is a really nice keyboard to type on, very quiet and very good 
 despite it's few limitations. You will most likely need sighted 
 help to install the software, the installer is not very accessible, 
 if you want to try yourself remember to only press Shift + Tab once 
 the installer has loaded, if you press tab you are a goner.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Yohandy Rodriguez
 Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 12:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Best choice for a bluetooth keyboard
 
 I'm using the Logitech K780. I just purchased it yesterday. look up 
 some reviews on Amazon to get a better idea of what it offers and such.
 
   has a numpad as well. it is a little expensive but seems like a 
 great keyboard overall, and it also includes a dongle in case you 
 wish to use it via usb. we'll see how good it turns out to be.
 
 
 
> On 7/20/2019 3:04 PM, Donald Raikes wrote:
> Hi,
> I have been considering getting a bluetooth keyboard for a while 
> to pair with my 

RE: How do I keep from muting Sounds?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You probably have your rotor turned to Sounds and every time you swipe up or 
down you mute the sounds.
My suggestion is to go to Voiceover Settings > Rotor and find Sounds, if it is 
selected double tap on it to unselect it and it will no longer be an option in 
the rotor.


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Arnold
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I keep from muting Sounds?

For some reason, Sounds will come up on my screen, and I have a time keeping it 
from being muted - sometimes have to go to 

Settings
General
Accessibilities
VoiceOver
then Audio. 

Anyone have any idea how I can just stabilize. I don't know why I'd want it 
off. 

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Sonos and Ikea partner up - the result: Symfonisk WiFi Table lamp and bookshelf Speakers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

For the Sonos fans out there who haven't heard yet, you can now buy a speaker 
which integrates into your Sonos system from Ikea. You can even get a table 
lamp with a built-in speaker. These don't appear to integrate with Alexa or 
Google Home or anything like that, but at $149 and $249 Canadian, respectively, 
the bookshelf speakers and table lamp aren't exactly what I would consider all 
that expensive. I assume in the US this will translate into $119 and $179 or 
$189, respectively.
The bookshelf speakers are a foot tall, 4 inches wide and 6 inches deep and you 
can get a wall bracket for a mere $15 and a speaker hook for $10, it allows you 
to hang the speakers of a rail like some of the systems you can find for in the 
kitchen where you install a continuous rail under your upper counters and  you 
can then hang utensils off it or get various shelves, paper towel holders etc. 
You can read all about it below:

Symfonisk WiFi 
Speakers


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Scratch ticket games you can play

[Jen .]

Hi I have a few friends who are cited and play scratch ticket type games online 
on their devices so my question is are there any that are accessible for us 
voiceover users.
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RE: Test

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Good test


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Sent from my iPhone this is a test to see if I’m still on the list.

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Re: Downloading envision AI?

[Anthony Vece]

Yes, I also have the same scenario..

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Dave Jones  wrote:
> 
>  I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
> email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging 
> back into the app.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil  wrote:
>> Hi, list.
>> 
>> I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
>> 
>> I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but 
>> it does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I 
>> double tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my 
>> Apple ID and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right 
>> away without giving me 14-day-trial?
>> 
>> Thanks!
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Re: Downloading envision AI?

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 I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior
email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging
back into the app.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil  wrote:

> Hi, list.
>
> I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
>
> I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial
> but it does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases.
> When I double tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store
> with my Apple ID and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the
> app right away without giving me 14-day-trial?
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> Thanks!
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Downloading envision AI?

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Hi, list.

I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.

I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but
it does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I
double tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my
Apple ID and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right
away without giving me 14-day-trial?

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From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

[Richard Turner]

Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely 
Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)




Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that it 
will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for remote 
control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their Neato vacuum 
to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up shortcuts to tell 
the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be able to send the vacuum 
to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If you're not the type to talk 
to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will attempt to to learn when and where 
to sweep and offer lock-screen suggestions. There's no specific time frame for 
when this update will release. Neato has stated this update will roll out with 
a firmware update set to release this fall, likely following the release of iOS 
13 and macOS Catalina. All of Neato's current vacuums are set to get the 
update. Neato vacuums currently work with myriad services, including an Apple 
Watch app, Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and even through 
Facebook Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was 
built from Workflow, an app that Apple purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers 
app and system control options through a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 
invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed the Neato Botvac Connected back in 2016, 
and found it to be one of the best robot vacuum cleaners available on the 
market. In addition to offering controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it also 
supports complex scheduling functions, cleans very well, and is easy to empty 
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Sent from my iPhone this is a test to see if I’m still on the list.

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Re: 11 inch iPad pro

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>> Hi list members. Is anyone using the latest iPad Pro? If so, what are your 
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>> apple smart folio case vs some of the others like the Zag or logitec.
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11 inch iPad pro

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> Hi list members. Is anyone using the latest iPad Pro? If so, what are your 
> thoughts regarding the iPad? Also, do you have any thoughts regarding the 
> apple smart folio case vs some of the others like the Zag or logitec.

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Re: Voiceover Reads English Only

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Hi, in the rotor go to language and adjust this to default language.

 If your iPhone in english in language and regionVoice Over speaks in the 
default language that you had chosen. נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

‫ב-2 באוג׳ 2019, בשעה 8:35, ‏‏Fazil ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Hi, group.
> My iPhone8 with iOS12.4 is reading English only. I have US-English, Hindi and 
> Arabic on my roattar but Voiceover reads any language it encounters but now 
> it is reading English only. How can I fix that, please?
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