Re: GPS

[Gradimir Kragić]

Also check out Loadstone GPS. Link: 
http://www.loadstone-gps.com

Best,


From: Paul and Paula Jordan 
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  Also check out nearby explorer online.  It’s free.

  God bless!

  Paula and Garçon

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Wright
  Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 11:35 PM
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  Check  out Seeing eye GPS

   

  **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

   

  From: Steve & Shannon Cook
  Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:07 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: GPS

   

  Hi All, 

   

  I am looking for a GPS app that list the directions on the screen that I can 
read with VO.  I have tried Apple maps, Google maps, Blind Square and waze with 
no success.  Thanks in advance!

   

  Steve

   

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Re: ScripTalk app

[Curtis Delzer]

we did a "beta test" for script talk and it required another app to be
installed before it was available to use called "test flight." I guess
it is out of beta now? and, certainly we ran it before the 13.0 IOS
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RE: GPS

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Also check out nearby explorer online.  It’s free.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

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Robert Wright
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Subject: RE: GPS

 

Check  out Seeing eye GPS

 

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

 

From: Steve   & Shannon Cook
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: GPS

 

Hi All, 

 

I am looking for a GPS app that list the directions on the screen that I can 
read with VO.  I have tried Apple maps, Google maps, Blind Square and waze with 
no success.  Thanks in advance!

 

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RE: GPS

[Robert Wright]

Check  out Seeing eye GPS

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

From: Steve & Shannon Cook
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: GPS

Hi All, 

I am looking for a GPS app that list the directions on the screen that I can 
read with VO.  I have tried Apple maps, Google maps, Blind Square and waze with 
no success.  Thanks in advance!

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RE: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I’d venture to guess that the update is only shown/offered to those who are 
upgraded to 13.x and can support it. That or it just hasn’t rolled out to 
everyone yet. I too am still on iOS 12.4.1 and haven’t received any Overcast 
update. Not worried about it though since it seems that all it is for is dark 
mode stuff anyway. 

 

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Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
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I have a Overcast on my phone running iOS 12. So I’m not sure where you’re 
getting the idea you must have iOS 13.
Mary

 

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On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have to 
test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older versions 
of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on devices that 
don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here from developers 
how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android when they have to 
worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.

 

On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why this 
is.

The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.

 

Regards,

 

Sieghard

 

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Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

[Mary Otten]

I have a Overcast on my phone running iOS 12. So I’m not sure where you’re 
getting the idea you must have iOS 13.
Mary


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> On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
> IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have 
> to test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older 
> versions of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on 
> devices that don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here 
> from developers how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android 
> when they have to worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular 
>> Podcast app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it 
>> interesting how some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already 
>> and I wonder why this is.
>> The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently 
>> mentioned.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> Sieghard
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RE: Los Angeles times app

[Cristobal Muñoz]

You just made me open up the ap on my iPhone XR. I'm a digital subscriber, but 
if I read anything from the LA times, it's mainly via link I've come across 
Twitter or from one of my RSS feeds and in Safari. I mainly use the app for 
local alerts and such.
It had been a while since I used it so hadn't actually done so since their big 
update from whenever they started rolling it out.
Anyway, true, the screen just shows those two items. I tried closing and 
reopening etc. Turning VO off and randomly swiping and tapping, but no go. 
I finally handed the phone to my sighted wife who said that it displayed a 
series of those see what's new screens and to swipe next etc. She went through 
the prompts and landed on the log in screen where I took the phone back and 
proceeded with my log in with 1Password.
Now that I'm logged in, everything at first glance (no pun intended) seems 
accessible enough. The tabs at the bottom, stories etc. 
I guess it's just getting past that initial see what's new stuff (which is 
nevertheless a fail on their part), and you should be good to go. 

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I wonder if anybody is able to successfully get past the opening screen of the 
LA Times app on the iPhone. I just downloaded it and opened it, and there are 
only two things spoken, one is welcome to the times or something like that, and 
the other says something about an all new news experience. Nothing works. I 
double tap on both of those things. I can’t get past that screen. It’s hard for 
me to believe that the leading newspaper in one of the largest metro areas in 
the country is completely voiceover useless. I know you can get it on Apple 
news. But what if I want to get the app and have and possibly have things 
organized in a better manner than what you get when you just look at a random 
feed? Has anyone had any success with this app?


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Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

[Mary Otten]

A couple of the apps I have on my phone have recently had updates. And they 
have talked about providing fixes for things on iOS 10 and 11. So, Christopher, 
I think you’re out in left field here on this one.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
> IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have 
> to test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older 
> versions of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on 
> devices that don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here 
> from developers how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android 
> when they have to worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular 
>> Podcast app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it 
>> interesting how some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already 
>> and I wonder why this is.
>> The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently 
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>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> Sieghard
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Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

[Christopher Chaltain]

Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version 
of IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they 
don't have to test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide 
support for older versions of IOS. All the app developers lose is those 
customers running on devices that don't support the latest version of 
IOS. You frequently here from developers how expensive and time 
consuming it is to develop on Android when they have to worry about so 
many devices and so many versions of Android.



On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular 
Podcast app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it 
interesting how some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 
already and I wonder why this is.


The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently 
mentioned.


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Los Angeles times app

[Mary Otten]

I wonder if anybody is able to successfully get past the opening screen of the 
LA Times app on the iPhone. I just downloaded it and opened it, and there are 
only two things spoken, one is welcome to the times or something like that, and 
the other says something about an all new news experience. Nothing works. I 
double tap on both of those things. I can’t get past that screen. It’s hard for 
me to believe that the leading newspaper in one of the largest metro areas in 
the country is completely voiceover useless. I know you can get it on Apple 
news. But what if I want to get the app and have and possibly have things 
organized in a better manner than what you get when you just look at a random 
feed? Has anyone had any success with this app?


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RE: making the at sign in braille

[Deb Cook Lewis]

The at sign is dots 4-7 if you're writing in 8-dot computer Braille for an 
email address etc. 

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We keep getting nothing but your signature. Will you please write an actual 
message?
Sending a virtual hug from Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com
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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:23 PM, kheve...@earthlink.net wrote:

Wayne, just got your signature.  Please resend your message.  Thanks.

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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


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How do u make the "at" sign in braille?  Am talking about the one that you 
need in email addresses.  I can only attribute this nugget of info to a 
senior moment.  Smile!! Thanks for help.

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to eight-dot braille with the 2-3-6 chord. Then use dot 7 which is right 
next to the dot 3 key. Use dot 7 and dog 4 together. Then, if you need to go 
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If you are using a braille display with an iPhone and ar
using grade two  braille,


are using a braille display with an iPhone, here's how to do an "at" sign. 
Go to eight-dot braille input, (Chord 2-3-6). There, type together the dot 7 
key and the dot 4 key. The dot 7 key is located next to the dot 3 key. After 
you do that sign, go back to grade two (contracted braille) with chord 
2-3-6. Whenever I do an email address or web address, I switch between the 
two. Eight-dot braille and 

Re: making the at sign in braille

[nancy Lynn]

We keep getting nothing but your signature. Will you please write an actual 
message?

Sending a virtual hug from Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:23 PM, kheve...@earthlink.net wrote:

Wayne, just got your signature.  Please resend your message.  Thanks.

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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


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How do u make the "at" sign in braille?  Am talking about the one that you 
need in email addresses.  I can only attribute this nugget of info to a 
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using grade two  braille,


are using a braille display with an iPhone, here's how to do an "at" sign. 
Go to eight-dot braille input, (Chord 2-3-6). There, type together the dot 7 
key and the dot 4 key. The dot 7 key is located next to the dot 3 key. After 
you do that sign, go back to grade two (contracted braille) with chord 
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two. Eight-dot braille and contracted braille. My problem is sometimes I 
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Re: making the at sign in braille

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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 


On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:23 PM, kheve...@earthlink.net wrote:

Wayne, just got your signature.  Please resend your message.  Thanks.  

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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 


On Oct 12, 2019, at 1:46 PM, kheve...@earthlink.net wrote:

How do u make the "at" sign in braille?  Am talking about the one that you 
need in email addresses.  I can only attribute this nugget of info to a senior 
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eight-dot braille with the 2-3-6 chord. Then use dot 7 which is right next to 
the dot 3 key. Use dot 7 and dog 4 together. Then, if you need to go back to 
grade do the 2-3-6 chord again. I have to flip between the two when I have to 
do web addresses. Hope this helpsffl 



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 are using a braille display with an iPhone, here's how to do an "at" sign.  Go 
to eight-dot braille input, (Chord 2-3-6). There, type together the dot 7 key 
and the dot 4 key. The dot 7 key is located next to the dot 3 key. After you do 
that sign, go back to grade two (contracted braille) with chord 2-3-6. Whenever 
I do an email address or web address, I switch between the two. Eight-dot 
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RE: ScripTalk app

[Deb Cook Lewis]

It really works well though an dgoes on the plus side for upgrading.

With some NFC type functions I’ve had to take the case off of my phone, but 
with scriptalk I don’t have to at all, and it quickly find the tag. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenny Bomareto
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ScripTalk app

 

I put the app on my phone earlier this evening. It works fantastic.

 

On a side note,  I love my ID made, and how it gives the blind great 
independence that we really need. However there is one downside to the ID mate. 
 doing your prescriptions works much better than say if barcodes were on the 
bottles without the tag on the bottom of the phone  just automatically find the 
barcodes without having to start all over like ID mait users have to do when 
searching for products or items that people are looking for using the ID mait .

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 12, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:



That explains it.  I’m not ready to take the IOS 13 plunge just yet.  Waiting 
for some big bug fixes before I do.  Thanks. Now I’m not totally annoyed or 
feeling like I don’t know what the heck I’m doing.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: ScripTalk app

 

Paula,

 

Be aware that you must be running iOS 13.x for ScripTalk. I'm still running iOS 
12.4.1 and when I searched for ScripTalk in the Apps Store, I also didn't get a 
hit for it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: ScripTalk app

 

Has anyone downloaded the ScripTalk Mobile app?  I can’t seem to find it in the 
app store.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

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Re: ScripTalk app

[Jenny Bomareto]

I put the app on my phone earlier this evening. It works fantastic.

On a side note,  I love my ID made, and how it gives the blind great 
independence that we really need. However there is one downside to the ID mate. 
 doing your prescriptions works much better than say if barcodes were on the 
bottles without the tag on the bottom of the phone  just automatically find the 
barcodes without having to start all over like ID mait users have to do when 
searching for products or items that people are looking for using the ID mait .

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That explains it.  I’m not ready to take the IOS 13 plunge just yet.  Waiting 
> for some big bug fixes before I do.  Thanks. Now I’m not totally annoyed or 
> feeling like I don’t know what the heck I’m doing.  Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: ScripTalk app
>  
> Paula,
>  
> Be aware that you must be running iOS 13.x for ScripTalk. I'm still running 
> iOS 12.4.1 and when I searched for ScripTalk in the Apps Store, I also didn't 
> get a hit for it.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Paul and Paula Jordan
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: ScripTalk app
>  
> Has anyone downloaded the ScripTalk Mobile app?  I can’t seem to find it in 
> the app store.  Thanks.
> God bless!
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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Cristobal Munoz]

Indeed. Apple often touts accessibility as a priority which I’m not even 
disputing, but this is one of those things that highlights the fact that there 
are priorities and then there are priorities…

> On Oct 12, 2019, at 6:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Mark, please forgive my language, but what you said about Apple not being 
> able to anticipate this issue is nonsense because it's been going on 
> throughout the beta cycle and was reported by many beta testers.
> I'm happy you don't have this issue, but I think you are in the minority here.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
> 
> Hello Carolyn, et al:
> 
> You know, I've been puzzling over this ever since I updated my 8 Plus to the 
> latest version of iOS and purchasing an iPhone 11; both having never lost 
> VoiceOver as the result of any activity.  With the rare exception of some 
> VoiceOver display bleed-through errors, described in previous posts, I never 
> use any of my Apple devices without VoiceOver and yet, try as I may, I cannot 
> reproduce the loss-of-VoiceOver glitch with or without earphones, of any 
> type, attached.
> 
> Did you know that not all iPhones are created equal?  There are several 
> different models referred to by the same device name.  Also, in the United 
> States at least, the type of carrier used can, in fact, have an impact on 
> device performance.  For example, several years ago there was a VoiceOver 
> display driver bug that only affected certain iPhones sold by certain 
> manufacturers.  Moreover, if memory serves, iPhones older than the 7 series 
> would have 1 of 2 different modems installed, based on certain factors.  My 
> point, regardless of the name used, not all iPhones are identical, in terms 
> of hardware.
> 
> Again, at present, this is just a guess as Apple never admits to hardly 
> anything until it has been resolved but I suspect that those having this 
> problem, or the reverse, those like me, who are not having this problem, can 
> attribute it to the device type that is being used.
> 
> For example, and again, this is just a guess so don't take issue, I make it a 
> practice to pay full price for SIM-free models of any Apple device, only.  
> The SIM-free model is one that is generally sold outside of the US but can, 
> upon request, be purchased inside the US, as well.
> 
> I was told, by an Apple employee, that all iPhone 11 series phones are now 
> SIM-free unless the purchaser elects not to pay full price for the phone, up 
> front.  I do not know how true this is as I am certain that when one 
> purchases a device directly from a carrier, the device is most certainly not 
> SIM-free.
> 
> While I am certain that Apple will resolve this loss-of-VoiceOver issue, the 
> fact that it even exists suggests to me that they did not or could not 
> anticipate this problem on their in-house models, said models most likely 
> being the purist of the pure where software and hardware installs are 
> concerned.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
> 
> Yesterday, I lost speech, even Bluetooth did not get it for me - phone would 
> not ring, only vibrate. We did reboot, turned off then back on. Finally, I 
> called Apple Accessibility. We worked and worked again, finally turned off, 
> back on, got it. She asked if she could screen share, did, checked About for 
> my model information, said she would submit my second complaint with regard 
> to VoiceOver. I told her I was out of the house, had the problem for hours, 
> couldn't even get Siri. I wish I knew a work around, just to keep it from 
> happening again. 
> 
> I do like Call Silencer, but would give it up to stabilize VoiceOver. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> dani pagador
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
> 
> For as much as I complained about VO dropping out after phone/FaceTime calls, 
> I'm really glad I did the upgrade to the IOS13. I got a call that went to 
> voicemail this morning that was a SSA scam that said my number would be 
> suspended due to fraudulent activity, that I would be arrested, and to kindly 
> press 1 (I'm not kidding) for more information. I was able to use the 
> voicemail recording and the info VO provided to give an accurate account of 
> the call to the FTC when I filed my complaint with them after the call came 
> in.
> 
> Yay, Apple.
> 
> Do the upgrade. 

RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Mark, please forgive my language, but what you said about Apple not being able 
to anticipate this issue is nonsense because it's been going on throughout the 
beta cycle and was reported by many beta testers.
I'm happy you don't have this issue, but I think you are in the minority here.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Hello Carolyn, et al:

You know, I've been puzzling over this ever since I updated my 8 Plus to the 
latest version of iOS and purchasing an iPhone 11; both having never lost 
VoiceOver as the result of any activity.  With the rare exception of some 
VoiceOver display bleed-through errors, described in previous posts, I never 
use any of my Apple devices without VoiceOver and yet, try as I may, I cannot 
reproduce the loss-of-VoiceOver glitch with or without earphones, of any type, 
attached.

Did you know that not all iPhones are created equal?  There are several 
different models referred to by the same device name.  Also, in the United 
States at least, the type of carrier used can, in fact, have an impact on 
device performance.  For example, several years ago there was a VoiceOver 
display driver bug that only affected certain iPhones sold by certain 
manufacturers.  Moreover, if memory serves, iPhones older than the 7 series 
would have 1 of 2 different modems installed, based on certain factors.  My 
point, regardless of the name used, not all iPhones are identical, in terms of 
hardware.

Again, at present, this is just a guess as Apple never admits to hardly 
anything until it has been resolved but I suspect that those having this 
problem, or the reverse, those like me, who are not having this problem, can 
attribute it to the device type that is being used.

For example, and again, this is just a guess so don't take issue, I make it a 
practice to pay full price for SIM-free models of any Apple device, only.  The 
SIM-free model is one that is generally sold outside of the US but can, upon 
request, be purchased inside the US, as well.

I was told, by an Apple employee, that all iPhone 11 series phones are now 
SIM-free unless the purchaser elects not to pay full price for the phone, up 
front.  I do not know how true this is as I am certain that when one purchases 
a device directly from a carrier, the device is most certainly not SIM-free.

While I am certain that Apple will resolve this loss-of-VoiceOver issue, the 
fact that it even exists suggests to me that they did not or could not 
anticipate this problem on their in-house models, said models most likely being 
the purist of the pure where software and hardware installs are concerned.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Yesterday, I lost speech, even Bluetooth did not get it for me - phone would 
not ring, only vibrate. We did reboot, turned off then back on. Finally, I 
called Apple Accessibility. We worked and worked again, finally turned off, 
back on, got it. She asked if she could screen share, did, checked About for my 
model information, said she would submit my second complaint with regard to 
VoiceOver. I told her I was out of the house, had the problem for hours, 
couldn't even get Siri. I wish I knew a work around, just to keep it from 
happening again. 

I do like Call Silencer, but would give it up to stabilize VoiceOver. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
dani pagador
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

For as much as I complained about VO dropping out after phone/FaceTime calls, 
I'm really glad I did the upgrade to the IOS13. I got a call that went to 
voicemail this morning that was a SSA scam that said my number would be 
suspended due to fraudulent activity, that I would be arrested, and to kindly 
press 1 (I'm not kidding) for more information. I was able to use the voicemail 
recording and the info VO provided to give an accurate account of the call to 
the FTC when I filed my complaint with them after the call came in.

Yay, Apple.

Do the upgrade. Just have a pair of wired earbuds handy to get VO back if it 
kicks out after a call. I hung up just a few minutes ago from a call (without 
being plugged in), and lost speech but still had sound--I could hear the clicks 
as I swiped right and left. I grabbed my wired earbuds, plugged in, and VO was 
back.

HTH,
Dani





On 10/10/19, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Angie and Everyone,
>
> You know, I must say that while I was planning on waiting for a later 
> 

If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why this 
is.
The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.

Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[M. Taylor]

Hello Carolyn, et al:

You know, I've been puzzling over this ever since I updated my 8 Plus to the 
latest version of iOS and purchasing an iPhone 11; both having never lost 
VoiceOver as the result of any activity.  With the rare exception of some 
VoiceOver display bleed-through errors, described in previous posts, I never 
use any of my Apple devices without VoiceOver and yet, try as I may, I cannot 
reproduce the loss-of-VoiceOver glitch with or without earphones, of any type, 
attached.

Did you know that not all iPhones are created equal?  There are several 
different models referred to by the same device name.  Also, in the United 
States at least, the type of carrier used can, in fact, have an impact on 
device performance.  For example, several years ago there was a VoiceOver 
display driver bug that only affected certain iPhones sold by certain 
manufacturers.  Moreover, if memory serves, iPhones older than the 7 series 
would have 1 of 2 different modems installed, based on certain factors.  My 
point, regardless of the name used, not all iPhones are identical, in terms of 
hardware.

Again, at present, this is just a guess as Apple never admits to hardly 
anything until it has been resolved but I suspect that those having this 
problem, or the reverse, those like me, who are not having this problem, can 
attribute it to the device type that is being used.

For example, and again, this is just a guess so don't take issue, I make it a 
practice to pay full price for SIM-free models of any Apple device, only.  The 
SIM-free model is one that is generally sold outside of the US but can, upon 
request, be purchased inside the US, as well.

I was told, by an Apple employee, that all iPhone 11 series phones are now 
SIM-free unless the purchaser elects not to pay full price for the phone, up 
front.  I do not know how true this is as I am certain that when one purchases 
a device directly from a carrier, the device is most certainly not SIM-free.

While I am certain that Apple will resolve this loss-of-VoiceOver issue, the 
fact that it even exists suggests to me that they did not or could not 
anticipate this problem on their in-house models, said models most likely being 
the purist of the pure where software and hardware installs are concerned.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Yesterday, I lost speech, even Bluetooth did not get it for me - phone would 
not ring, only vibrate. We did reboot, turned off then back on. Finally, I 
called Apple Accessibility. We worked and worked again, finally turned off, 
back on, got it. She asked if she could screen share, did, checked About for my 
model information, said she would submit my second complaint with regard to 
VoiceOver. I told her I was out of the house, had the problem for hours, 
couldn't even get Siri. I wish I knew a work around, just to keep it from 
happening again. 

I do like Call Silencer, but would give it up to stabilize VoiceOver. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
dani pagador
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

For as much as I complained about VO dropping out after phone/FaceTime calls, 
I'm really glad I did the upgrade to the IOS13. I got a call that went to 
voicemail this morning that was a SSA scam that said my number would be 
suspended due to fraudulent activity, that I would be arrested, and to kindly 
press 1 (I'm not kidding) for more information. I was able to use the voicemail 
recording and the info VO provided to give an accurate account of the call to 
the FTC when I filed my complaint with them after the call came in.

Yay, Apple.

Do the upgrade. Just have a pair of wired earbuds handy to get VO back if it 
kicks out after a call. I hung up just a few minutes ago from a call (without 
being plugged in), and lost speech but still had sound--I could hear the clicks 
as I swiped right and left. I grabbed my wired earbuds, plugged in, and VO was 
back.

HTH,
Dani





On 10/10/19, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Angie and Everyone,
>
> You know, I must say that while I was planning on waiting for a later 
> version of iOS 13.x to be released, before updating my 8 Plus, I am 
> definitely glad that I went ahead and took the proverbial plunge.
> This is to say that I have gained much more than I lost.
>
> Now keep in mind that I have yet to experience any loss of VoiceOver 
> under any circumstances.  Also, while I do read some email messages 
> via iPhone, I read most of my emails on either my Windows PC or my Mac 
> so cannot speak to any problems with the native iOS Mail app.
>
> I absolutely love the new 

Re: making the at sign in braille

[Arnold Schmidt]

In Apple Braille Screen Input, it is dot 4, then dot 1. It probably is the same 
on a computer braille device, I do not have one of those. 

Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Oct 12, 2019, at 3:45 PM,   
wrote:

How do u make the "at" sign in braille?  Am talking about the one that you
need in email addresses.  I can only attribute this nugget of info to a
senior moment.  Smile!! Thanks for help.  

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RE: making the at sign in braille

[khevener]

Wayne, just got your signature.  Please resend your message.  Thanks.  

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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 12, 2019, at 1:46 PM, kheve...@earthlink.net wrote:

How do u make the "at" sign in braille?  Am talking about the one that you 
need in email addresses.  I can only attribute this nugget of info to a senior 
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 If you are using an iPhone with a braille display, here's how you do it. Go to 
eight-dot braille with the 2-3-6 chord. Then use dot 7 which is right next to 
the dot 3 key. Use dot 7 and dog 4 together. Then, if you need to go back to 
grade do the 2-3-6 chord again. I have to flip between the two when I have to 
do web addresses. Hope this helpsffl 



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ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki

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Re: GPS

[Feliciano Godoy]

Apple and google maps details the steps if you get into that mode.

Feliciano
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> On Oct 12, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Steve & Shannon Cook  wrote:
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> read with VO.  I have tried Apple maps, Google maps, Blind Square and waze 
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GPS

[Steve & Shannon Cook]

Hi All, 

I am looking for a GPS app that list the directions on the screen that I can 
read with VO.  I have tried Apple maps, Google maps, Blind Square and waze with 
no success.  Thanks in advance!

Steve

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Re: weathergods

[Vicki W.]

Mine are working fine. I just went into settings on the main screen and made 
sure the sounds were turned on. You might check that. 

I'm not sure if there is a separate volume for those sounds or  not.

Vicki

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  does anybody know what has happened to the sounds on weather gods?  Janet

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Re: Voicedream scanner questions

[Holly]

When you hear the tone, it is at a good distance and you can take the pic.

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Re: Voicedream scanner questions

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The Voice Dream Scanner is $5.99.

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Re: ScripTalk app

[Richard Turner]

It also requires an iPhone 7 or later, so it will not work on the SE or 6S
It must use the NFC feature or something like that.




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On Oct 12, 2019, at 1:20 PM, Julian  wrote:


Hi,

Here is the direct link to ScripTalk in the App Store:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/scriptalk-mobile/id1317698388

Sent from my iPhone

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When I search for Scriptalk the only thing I see is two advertisements and 
something called Scripview.
Maybe I’m looking in the wrong place on my screen, but I don’t see it anywhere.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Greg Wocher
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ScripTalk app

Hello,
Yes I have downloaded it on my phone. When you search for it, search for 
scriptalk and it should be one of the first few results.

Greg Wocher



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Has anyone downloaded the ScripTalk Mobile app?  I can’t seem to find it in the 
app store.  Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon

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RE: ScripTalk app

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

That explains it.  I’m not ready to take the IOS 13 plunge just yet.  Waiting 
for some big bug fixes before I do.  Thanks. Now I’m not totally annoyed or 
feeling like I don’t know what the heck I’m doing.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ScripTalk app

 

Paula,

 

Be aware that you must be running iOS 13.x for ScripTalk. I'm still running iOS 
12.4.1 and when I searched for ScripTalk in the Apps Store, I also didn't get a 
hit for it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Subject: ScripTalk app

 

Has anyone downloaded the ScripTalk Mobile app?  I can’t seem to find it in the 
app store.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

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Re: ScripTalk app

[Julian]

Hi,

Here is the direct link to ScripTalk in the App Store:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/scriptalk-mobile/id1317698388

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> When I search for Scriptalk the only thing I see is two advertisements and 
> something called Scripview.
> Maybe I’m looking in the wrong place on my screen, but I don’t see it 
> anywhere.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Greg Wocher
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ScripTalk app
>  
> Hello,
> Yes I have downloaded it on my phone. When you search for it, search for 
> scriptalk and it should be one of the first few results.
>  
> Greg Wocher
>  
> 
> 
> On Oct 12, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
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> Has anyone downloaded the ScripTalk Mobile app?  I can’t seem to find it in 
> the app store.  Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
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RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

[Richard Turner]

Thanks,
I’ve not found them useful in Mail.
I wil take a look at trying it again.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 10:36 AM
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Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

Richard,

You've probably already read the CardHop Help page about Groups and Smart 
Groups which is found here:

https://flexibits.com/cardhop-ios/help/groups-and-smart-groups

I'm pasting the text of that page following my signature. It describes how to 
set up groups in CardHop but I'm not sure if they are available in the Mail app 
when sending an email. I would hope they would be or their purpose seems rather 
pointless.

Alan Lemly

Groups and Smart Groups

Video: Managing Groups

Contacts can be grouped together for quick reference, and can be managed as 
follows:
Organize contacts by group

Tap 'All Contacts' in the upper-left of the all contacts view to see which 
groups belong to your accounts. You can tap the groups to show or hide them in 
the all contacts view.

Tap the Add Group button to create a new group for that particular account. Tap 
the Edit button in the upper-right to delete or rename your groups.

Assigning contacts to groups

Tap and hold on a contact name to add it to a group or move it from one group 
to another.

Using pre-configured smart groups

Tap the Add Smart Group button to choose from a list of preconfigured smart 
groups to automatically filter your contacts.

Syncing smart groups from Cardhop for Mac

Cardhop for Mac allows you to create smart groups that auto-populate the group 
based on specific parameters. At present, Cardhop of iOS does not allow you to 
create new smart groups. However any existing smart groups you've created on 
Cardhop for Mac will sync to Cardhop for iOS automatically, providing both 
devices are signed into the same iCloud account.

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 11:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

I like Cardhop for contacts, but how are you using it for sending emails to a 
group?



Richard
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On Oct 11, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Jennie Facer 
mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Hi,

I prefer CardHop. It does awesome.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi
TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

On Oct 11, 2019, at 4:28 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

i prefer ABC Groups. For $1.99 you can remove ads.
I use this one all the time for our book club, and a few other groups.
Fully accessible.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-groups-group-contacts/id685048714



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On Oct 11, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

For further info- here is the page link. The Groups app is below the iCloud 
section- and listed as a heading Level 2:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/how-to-make-a-contact-group-on-iphone/

Cher
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
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Subject: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

Is anyone using this app and can say whether it is accessible? I have seen it 
recommended as an easy way to create a group which can repeatedly be used to 
send messages to an entire group of recipients.

Cher


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RE: ScripTalk app

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

When I search for Scriptalk the only thing I see is two advertisements and 
something called Scripview. 

Maybe I’m looking in the wrong place on my screen, but I don’t see it anywhere.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

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Greg Wocher
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ScripTalk app

 

Hello,

Yes I have downloaded it on my phone. When you search for it, search for 
scriptalk and it should be one of the first few results.

 

Greg Wocher

 





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Has anyone downloaded the ScripTalk Mobile app?  I can’t seem to find it in the 
app store.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

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RE: Voicedream scanner questions

[Richard Turner]

The app is $5.99.


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Sabo
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Hi 
ok sounds good how much does this app cost 


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Re: making the at sign in braille

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Press the dot 4 key.
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Subject: making the at sign in braille 
How do u make the "at" sign in braille?  Am talking about the one that you

need in email addresses.  I can only attribute this nugget of info to a
senior moment.  Smile!! Thanks for help.  


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Re: making the at sign in braille

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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 12, 2019, at 1:46 PM, kheve...@earthlink.net wrote:

How do u make the "at" sign in braille?  Am talking about the one that you
need in email addresses.  I can only attribute this nugget of info to a
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 If you are using an iPhone with a braille display, here's how you do it. Go to 
eight-dot braille with the 2-3-6 chord. Then use dot 7 which is right next to 
the dot 3 key. Use dot 7 and dog 4 together. Then, if you need to go back to 
grade do the 2-3-6 chord again. I have to flip between the two when I have to 
do web addresses. Hope this helpsffl 



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RE: ScripTalk app

[Alan Lemly]

Paula,

 

Be aware that you must be running iOS 13.x for ScripTalk. I'm still running iOS 
12.4.1 and when I searched for ScripTalk in the Apps Store, I also didn't get a 
hit for it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:21 PM
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Subject: ScripTalk app

 

Has anyone downloaded the ScripTalk Mobile app?  I can’t seem to find it in the 
app store.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

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making the at sign in braille

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How do u make the "at" sign in braille?  Am talking about the one that you
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Re: ScripTalk app

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
Yes I have downloaded it on my phone. When you search for it, search for 
scriptalk and it should be one of the first few results.

Greg Wocher


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RE: weathergods

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I still have the Weather God sounds on my iPhone 11.

 

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does anybody know what has happened to the sounds on weather gods?  Janet

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Re: weathergods

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I just went to Weather Gods on my SE phone and the sounds are all there.

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RE: Voicedream scanner questions

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You are lined up right when the audible tone is at its loudest.  

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How do you use the tone to align the page?  Also I have noticed autoshoot is 
kind of hit and miss?  I am confident it is the user--me--vs. the app.

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weathergods

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Re: Voicedream scanner questions

[Rebecca Sabo]

Hi 
ok sounds good how much does this app cost 


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Re: Voicedream scanner questions

[Yolanda Thompson]

How do you use the tone to align the page?  Also I have noticed
autoshoot is kind of hit and miss?  I am confident it is the
user--me--vs. the app.

On 10/12/19, Holly  wrote:
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Re: Voicedream scanner questions

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Becky:

No, your phone camera is the scanner.

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Re: Voicedream scanner questions

[Rebecca Sabo]

hi 
all do you need to purchase a scanner to use this program .
Becky 

> On Oct 11, 2019, at 8:57 AM,  
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> 
> Terri, I think this scanner is well worth the money.  Like Richard, I wish it 
> could read columns.  As it stands now, I use it to check mail.  Even though I 
> may not get everything, I definitely get enough to know if the mail is junk 
> or needs more serious attention.  I like the speed and the tone to help you 
> align the page for accurate scan.  I also like the fact that you do not have 
> to worry at lighting in your room, as the scanner adjusts lighting.  
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 2:46 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Voicedream scanner questions
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I was considering purchasing Voicedream scanner. I haven’t ever used this 
> before.
> 
> For those of you who use it, what do you think about it?
> What are some things you like about it?
> And what are some things you don’t like about it?
> 
> Also, if I find a PDF online, could I somehow download it to Voicedream 
> scanner, and read it?
> If so, how might I do this?
> 
> Any help, or thoughts about this App is much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
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ScripTalk app

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Has anyone downloaded the ScripTalk Mobile app?  I can’t seem to find it in
the app store.  Thanks.

God bless!

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dice world questions

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

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mostly against the computer.  I’ve  have a bunch of gold, but I don’t know
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RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

[Alan Lemly]

Richard,

 

You've probably already read the CardHop Help page about Groups and Smart 
Groups which is found here:

 

https://flexibits.com/cardhop-ios/help/groups-and-smart-groups

 

I'm pasting the text of that page following my signature. It describes how to 
set up groups in CardHop but I'm not sure if they are available in the Mail app 
when sending an email. I would hope they would be or their purpose seems rather 
pointless.

 

Alan Lemly

 

Groups and Smart Groups

 

Video: Managing Groups

 

Contacts can be grouped together for quick reference, and can be managed as 
follows:

Organize contacts by group

 

Tap 'All Contacts' in the upper-left of the all contacts view to see which 
groups belong to your accounts. You can tap the groups to show or hide them in 
the all contacts view.

 

Tap the Add Group button to create a new group for that particular account. Tap 
the Edit button in the upper-right to delete or rename your groups.

 

Assigning contacts to groups

 

Tap and hold on a contact name to add it to a group or move it from one group 
to another.

 

Using pre-configured smart groups

 

Tap the Add Smart Group button to choose from a list of preconfigured smart 
groups to automatically filter your contacts.

 

Syncing smart groups from Cardhop for Mac

 

Cardhop for Mac allows you to create smart groups that auto-populate the group 
based on specific parameters. At present, Cardhop of iOS does not allow you to 
create new smart groups. However any existing smart groups you've created on 
Cardhop for Mac will sync to Cardhop for iOS automatically, providing both 
devices are signed into the same iCloud account.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 11:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

I like Cardhop for contacts, but how are you using it for sending emails to a 
group? 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Oct 11, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:

 Hi, 

 

I prefer CardHop. It does awesome.

 

Jenn 

Jenn and Kumi 

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!





On Oct 11, 2019, at 4:28 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

i prefer ABC Groups. For $1.99 you can remove ads.

I use this one all the time for our book club, and a few other groups.

Fully accessible.

 

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-groups-group-contacts/id685048714 

  

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Oct 11, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:

 

For further info- here is the page link. The Groups app is below the iCloud 
section- and listed as a heading Level 2:

 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/how-to-make-a-contact-group-on-iphone/ 

 

 

Cher 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

Is anyone using this app and can say whether it is accessible? I have seen it 
recommended as an easy way to create a group which can repeatedly be used to 
send messages to an entire group of recipients.

 

Cher

 

 

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RE: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

[Carolyn Arnold]

Oh no, that wasn't what I used. I used the one that you slide around to the 
letters and lift your finger, when the character is announced. I think it is 
the second choice of typing selections; I prefer the first. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

If it is direct touch typing, then they either have extraordinary spatial 
awareness or they have enough vision to see the keys.  Direct Touch Typing is 
the same as typing without VoiceOver.  

In either case, if Slide To Type is on, things probably behave differently, but 
who knows.

 

 

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

 

I assume he means Direct Touch Typing, something I have never used and I 
honestly don’t know anybody who does nor have I ever seen it discussed a lot on 
this list.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

 

Direct line typing is not a phrase I'm familiar with, but have they checked 
under settings, general, keyboard and turned off Slide To Type? 

It is on by default, and unless you know how to use it, typing gets very 
strange.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Davy Cuppens mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi folks 

 

A belgian user is reporting a bug that the typing method direct blind 
typing is completely broken on her iphone after update from 13.1.1 to 13.1.2.

I cannot confirm this bug because I am still an ios12 user.

Davy 

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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Carolyn Arnold]

We did that first. I mean, it was really a problem. If I thought getting 
another model would solve it, at that point, I would have, but knew it was not 
the fault of the SE. I am hopeful that the SE2 really will come out next march. 
If it does, will it have the 11 camers? My husband would like that. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Your best option is a hard reset, in the case of the SE it is pretty simple, 
push and hold both the home button and power button on the side for about 12 
seconds, let go and wait for the phone to restart. On my iPhone 8 it fixes the 
issue every time.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Yesterday, I lost speech, even Bluetooth did not get it for me - phone would 
not ring, only vibrate. We did reboot, turned off then back on. Finally, I 
called Apple Accessibility. We worked and worked again, finally turned off, 
back on, got it. She asked if she could screen share, did, checked About for my 
model information, said she would submit my second complaint with regard to 
VoiceOver. I told her I was out of the house, had the problem for hours, 
couldn't even get Siri. I wish I knew a work around, just to keep it from 
happening again. 

I do like Call Silencer, but would give it up to stabilize VoiceOver. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
dani pagador
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

For as much as I complained about VO dropping out after phone/FaceTime calls, 
I'm really glad I did the upgrade to the IOS13. I got a call that went to 
voicemail this morning that was a SSA scam that said my number would be 
suspended due to fraudulent activity, that I would be arrested, and to kindly 
press 1 (I'm not kidding) for more information. I was able to use the voicemail 
recording and the info VO provided to give an accurate account of the call to 
the FTC when I filed my complaint with them after the call came in.

Yay, Apple.

Do the upgrade. Just have a pair of wired earbuds handy to get VO back if it 
kicks out after a call. I hung up just a few minutes ago from a call (without 
being plugged in), and lost speech but still had sound--I could hear the clicks 
as I swiped right and left. I grabbed my wired earbuds, plugged in, and VO was 
back.

HTH,
Dani





On 10/10/19, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Angie and Everyone,
>
> You know, I must say that while I was planning on waiting for a later 
> version of iOS 13.x to be released, before updating my 8 Plus, I am 
> definitely glad that I went ahead and took the proverbial plunge.
> This is to say that I have gained much more than I lost.
>
> Now keep in mind that I have yet to experience any loss of VoiceOver 
> under any circumstances.  Also, while I do read some email messages 
> via iPhone, I read most of my emails on either my Windows PC or my Mac 
> so cannot speak to any problems with the native iOS Mail app.
>
> I absolutely love the new system-wide hap tic VoiceOver feedback 
> feature.  I think the latest versions of Maps is incredible, 
> especially the new E.T.A feature.  However, what I like most about iOS 
> 13.x and by the same token, iPad OS 13 is the fact that now, as it was 
> many, many moons ago, all of my ripped DVD videos play perfectly on 
> all of my Apple devices.  This was certainly not the case in iOS 12 
> and earlier.  I am glad that Apple relinquished its death grip on the 
> types of videos it would and would not allow to be played on Apple 
> devices, in the hope of getting customers to purchase / rent videos from the 
> iTunes Store.
>
> Oh, one more thing, while I am a heavy user of Braille using the 
> original Focus 40 Blue, as yet, I have not attempted to read any 
> lengthy pieces on my Braille display so cannot speak to any issues regarding 
> Braille displays.
>
> I can tell you, however, that while I adore the new dark mode on my 
> iPad Pro, I have elected not to engage this new feature on my 8 Plus.  Why?
> Well, the display seems to be too dark for my taste on the smaller 
> display and I find it easier to toggle Invert Display on and off, as 
> needed with the Home button.
>
> On the iPhone 11, however, given that there is no longer a Home 
> button, I do engage Dark mode, using the side button to Toggle 
> VoiceOver on and off, as needed.  As yet, I have not experienced a 
> loss of VoiceOver before, during, or after calls, of any kind.
>
> I am of the opinion 

RE: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have heard people use touch typing, tried it, hated it. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

I assume he means Direct Touch Typing, something I have never used and I 
honestly don’t know anybody who does nor have I ever seen it discussed a lot on 
this list.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

 

Direct line typing is not a phrase I'm familiar with, but have they checked 
under settings, general, keyboard and turned off Slide To Type? 

It is on by default, and unless you know how to use it, typing gets very 
strange.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

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On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:

 

Hi folks 

 

A belgian user is reporting a bug that the typing method direct blind 
typing is completely broken on her iphone after update from 13.1.1 to 13.1.2.

I cannot confirm this bug because I am still an ios12 user.

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Re: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

[Gerardo Corripio]

Maybe they’re referring to the Direct Touch typing method? I don’t use that 
one, thus can’t comment. I use the Touch to type method, and have turned off 
the slide to Type.

Gera
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> El 12 oct 2019, a la(s) 7:58 a. m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
>  Direct line typing is not a phrase I'm familiar with, but have they checked 
> under settings, general, keyboard and turned off Slide To Type?
> It is on by default, and unless you know how to use it, typing gets very 
> strange.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi folks
>>  
>> A belgian user is reporting a bug that the typing method direct blind typing 
>> is completely broken on her iphone after update from 13.1.1 to 13.1.2.
>> I cannot confirm this bug because I am still an ios12 user.
>> Davy
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RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

[Richard Turner]

No, I find iCloud to be utterly frustrating.

ABC Groups is fairly easy to use and while you have to do your Email from 
within the app, it works quite well.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

Thanks for the suggestion. I found the Groups app in a search- but, of course, 
accessibility was not mentioned. Have you also tried creating a group in 
iCloud.com as the article suggestioned? Since the iCloud control panel is not 
very friendly, I questioned whether iCloud.com was any better.

Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

i prefer ABC Groups. For $1.99 you can remove ads.
I use this one all the time for our book club, and a few other groups.
Fully accessible.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-groups-group-contacts/id685048714



Richard
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On Oct 11, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

For further info- here is the page link. The Groups app is below the iCloud 
section- and listed as a heading Level 2:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/how-to-make-a-contact-group-on-iphone/

Cher
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 5:26 PM
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Subject: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

Is anyone using this app and can say whether it is accessible? I have seen it 
recommended as an easy way to create a group which can repeatedly be used to 
send messages to an entire group of recipients.

Cher


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[Cher Bosch]

Thanks for the suggestion. I found the Groups app in a search- but, of course, 
accessibility was not mentioned. Have you also tried creating a group in 
iCloud.com as the article suggestioned? Since the iCloud control panel is not 
very friendly, I questioned whether iCloud.com was any better.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

i prefer ABC Groups. For $1.99 you can remove ads.

I use this one all the time for our book club, and a few other groups.

Fully accessible.

 

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-groups-group-contacts/id685048714 

 

 

 

Richard

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-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Oct 11, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

 

For further info- here is the page link. The Groups app is below the iCloud 
section- and listed as a heading Level 2:

 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/how-to-make-a-contact-group-on-iphone/ 

 

 

Cher 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cher 
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Subject: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

Is anyone using this app and can say whether it is accessible? I have seen it 
recommended as an easy way to create a group which can repeatedly be used to 
send messages to an entire group of recipients.

 

Cher

 

 

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Re: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks 

I close the thread and stop thinking about it  for five minutes she rebooted 
her phone and everything is just working fine again for her.
Davy 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

If it is direct touch typing, then they either have extraordinary spatial 
awareness or they have enough vision to see the keys.  Direct Touch Typing is 
the same as typing without VoiceOver.  

In either case, if Slide To Type is on, things probably behave differently, but 
who knows.

 

 

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:59 AM
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I assume he means Direct Touch Typing, something I have never used and I 
honestly don’t know anybody who does nor have I ever seen it discussed a lot on 
this list.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

 

Direct line typing is not a phrase I'm familiar with, but have they checked 
under settings, general, keyboard and turned off Slide To Type? 

It is on by default, and unless you know how to use it, typing gets very 
strange.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

  On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:

   

  Hi folks 

   

  A belgian user is reporting a bug that the typing method direct blind typing 
is completely broken on her iphone after update from 13.1.1 to 13.1.2.

  I cannot confirm this bug because I am still an ios12 user.

  Davy 

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RE: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

[Richard Turner]

If it is direct touch typing, then they either have extraordinary spatial 
awareness or they have enough vision to see the keys.  Direct Touch Typing is 
the same as typing without VoiceOver.
In either case, if Slide To Type is on, things probably behave differently, but 
who knows.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

I assume he means Direct Touch Typing, something I have never used and I 
honestly don’t know anybody who does nor have I ever seen it discussed a lot on 
this list.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

Direct line typing is not a phrase I'm familiar with, but have they checked 
under settings, general, keyboard and turned off Slide To Type?
It is on by default, and unless you know how to use it, typing gets very 
strange.
HTH,



Richard
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Hi folks

A belgian user is reporting a bug that the typing method direct blind typing is 
completely broken on her iphone after update from 13.1.1 to 13.1.2.
I cannot confirm this bug because I am still an ios12 user.
Davy
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Re: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi Sieghard 

You are right I also do not understand while blind people would use this option 
but the girl ddoesn’t have knowledge about Englisch so I asked it for her.
Davy 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
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I assume he means Direct Touch Typing, something I have never used and I 
honestly don’t know anybody who does nor have I ever seen it discussed a lot on 
this list.

 

 

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Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

 

Direct line typing is not a phrase I'm familiar with, but have they checked 
under settings, general, keyboard and turned off Slide To Type? 

It is on by default, and unless you know how to use it, typing gets very 
strange.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

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-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





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  Hi folks 

   

  A belgian user is reporting a bug that the typing method direct blind typing 
is completely broken on her iphone after update from 13.1.1 to 13.1.2.

  I cannot confirm this bug because I am still an ios12 user.

  Davy 

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RE: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume he means Direct Touch Typing, something I have never used and I 
honestly don’t know anybody who does nor have I ever seen it discussed a lot on 
this list.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:59 AM
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Subject: Re: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

Direct line typing is not a phrase I'm familiar with, but have they checked 
under settings, general, keyboard and turned off Slide To Type?
It is on by default, and unless you know how to use it, typing gets very 
strange.
HTH,



Richard
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On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:

Hi folks

A belgian user is reporting a bug that the typing method direct blind typing is 
completely broken on her iphone after update from 13.1.1 to 13.1.2.
I cannot confirm this bug because I am still an ios12 user.
Davy
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RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

[Jennie Facer]

You know I may have misspoke here. CardHop is mainly for contacts.

 

Jenn

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 10:49 PM
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I like Cardhop for contacts, but how are you using it for sending emails to a 
group? 

 

 

 

Richard

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On Oct 11, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 Hi, 

 

I prefer CardHop. It does awesome.

 

Jenn 

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On Oct 11, 2019, at 4:28 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

i prefer ABC Groups. For $1.99 you can remove ads.

I use this one all the time for our book club, and a few other groups.

Fully accessible.

 

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-groups-group-contacts/id685048714 

  

 

 

 

Richard

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On Oct 11, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

 

For further info- here is the page link. The Groups app is below the iCloud 
section- and listed as a heading Level 2:

 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/how-to-make-a-contact-group-on-iphone/ 

 

 

Cher 

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Is anyone using this app and can say whether it is accessible? I have seen it 
recommended as an easy way to create a group which can repeatedly be used to 
send messages to an entire group of recipients.

 

Cher

 

 

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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Your best option is a hard reset, in the case of the SE it is pretty simple, 
push and hold both the home button and power button on the side for about 12 
seconds, let go and wait for the phone to restart. On my iPhone 8 it fixes the 
issue every time.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Yesterday, I lost speech, even Bluetooth did not get it for me - phone would 
not ring, only vibrate. We did reboot, turned off then back on. Finally, I 
called Apple Accessibility. We worked and worked again, finally turned off, 
back on, got it. She asked if she could screen share, did, checked About for my 
model information, said she would submit my second complaint with regard to 
VoiceOver. I told her I was out of the house, had the problem for hours, 
couldn't even get Siri. I wish I knew a work around, just to keep it from 
happening again. 

I do like Call Silencer, but would give it up to stabilize VoiceOver. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
dani pagador
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

For as much as I complained about VO dropping out after phone/FaceTime calls, 
I'm really glad I did the upgrade to the IOS13. I got a call that went to 
voicemail this morning that was a SSA scam that said my number would be 
suspended due to fraudulent activity, that I would be arrested, and to kindly 
press 1 (I'm not kidding) for more information. I was able to use the voicemail 
recording and the info VO provided to give an accurate account of the call to 
the FTC when I filed my complaint with them after the call came in.

Yay, Apple.

Do the upgrade. Just have a pair of wired earbuds handy to get VO back if it 
kicks out after a call. I hung up just a few minutes ago from a call (without 
being plugged in), and lost speech but still had sound--I could hear the clicks 
as I swiped right and left. I grabbed my wired earbuds, plugged in, and VO was 
back.

HTH,
Dani





On 10/10/19, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Angie and Everyone,
>
> You know, I must say that while I was planning on waiting for a later 
> version of iOS 13.x to be released, before updating my 8 Plus, I am 
> definitely glad that I went ahead and took the proverbial plunge.
> This is to say that I have gained much more than I lost.
>
> Now keep in mind that I have yet to experience any loss of VoiceOver 
> under any circumstances.  Also, while I do read some email messages 
> via iPhone, I read most of my emails on either my Windows PC or my Mac 
> so cannot speak to any problems with the native iOS Mail app.
>
> I absolutely love the new system-wide hap tic VoiceOver feedback 
> feature.  I think the latest versions of Maps is incredible, 
> especially the new E.T.A feature.  However, what I like most about iOS 
> 13.x and by the same token, iPad OS 13 is the fact that now, as it was 
> many, many moons ago, all of my ripped DVD videos play perfectly on 
> all of my Apple devices.  This was certainly not the case in iOS 12 
> and earlier.  I am glad that Apple relinquished its death grip on the 
> types of videos it would and would not allow to be played on Apple 
> devices, in the hope of getting customers to purchase / rent videos from the 
> iTunes Store.
>
> Oh, one more thing, while I am a heavy user of Braille using the 
> original Focus 40 Blue, as yet, I have not attempted to read any 
> lengthy pieces on my Braille display so cannot speak to any issues regarding 
> Braille displays.
>
> I can tell you, however, that while I adore the new dark mode on my 
> iPad Pro, I have elected not to engage this new feature on my 8 Plus.  Why?
> Well, the display seems to be too dark for my taste on the smaller 
> display and I find it easier to toggle Invert Display on and off, as 
> needed with the Home button.
>
> On the iPhone 11, however, given that there is no longer a Home 
> button, I do engage Dark mode, using the side button to Toggle 
> VoiceOver on and off, as needed.  As yet, I have not experienced a 
> loss of VoiceOver before, during, or after calls, of any kind.
>
> I am of the opinion that iOS 12 with Watch OS 5 work much better, 
> together, than iOS 13 with Watch OS 6, especially where Bluetooth 
> audio switching is concerned; at least, this has been my experience so far.
>
> Still, all of my "must-have" apps work as expected and I have yet to 
> encounter any show-stoppers in iOS 13.x, so far.
>
> So, if you have not yet updated to iOS 13.x yet, wait a little longer 
> before doing so but if you're ready to jump in and begin sending 
> Apple, along with third-party developers, bug reports as you encounter 
> them, go ahead and make the leap as we can use all 

RE: Customising haptics?

[Jennie Facer]

It is in in settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, audio, then sounds and haptics.

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 10:57 PM
To: Abridged Recipients 
Subject: Customising haptics?

On a podcast I heard that in iOS 13 (I’m running iOS 13.1.2 on my iPhone XS) it 
is possible to turn on or off haptic feedback for things like when you 3-finger 
swipe left or right between screens of apps. I cannot find where in Settings I 
can cutomise these - can someone help?
Thanks
Harry

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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yesterday, I lost speech, even Bluetooth did not get it for me - phone would 
not ring, only vibrate. We did reboot, turned off then back on. Finally, I 
called Apple Accessibility. We worked and worked again, finally turned off, 
back on, got it. She asked if she could screen share, did, checked About for my 
model information, said she would submit my second complaint with regard to 
VoiceOver. I told her I was out of the house, had the problem for hours, 
couldn't even get Siri. I wish I knew a work around, just to keep it from 
happening again. 

I do like Call Silencer, but would give it up to stabilize VoiceOver. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
dani pagador
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

For as much as I complained about VO dropping out after phone/FaceTime calls, 
I'm really glad I did the upgrade to the IOS13. I got a call that went to 
voicemail this morning that was a SSA scam that said my number would be 
suspended due to fraudulent activity, that I would be arrested, and to kindly 
press 1 (I'm not kidding) for more information. I was able to use the voicemail 
recording and the info VO provided to give an accurate account of the call to 
the FTC when I filed my complaint with them after the call came in.

Yay, Apple.

Do the upgrade. Just have a pair of wired earbuds handy to get VO back if it 
kicks out after a call. I hung up just a few minutes ago from a call (without 
being plugged in), and lost speech but still had sound--I could hear the clicks 
as I swiped right and left. I grabbed my wired earbuds, plugged in, and VO was 
back.

HTH,
Dani





On 10/10/19, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Angie and Everyone,
>
> You know, I must say that while I was planning on waiting for a later 
> version of iOS 13.x to be released, before updating my 8 Plus, I am 
> definitely glad that I went ahead and took the proverbial plunge.  
> This is to say that I have gained much more than I lost.
>
> Now keep in mind that I have yet to experience any loss of VoiceOver 
> under any circumstances.  Also, while I do read some email messages 
> via iPhone, I read most of my emails on either my Windows PC or my Mac 
> so cannot speak to any problems with the native iOS Mail app.
>
> I absolutely love the new system-wide hap tic VoiceOver feedback 
> feature.  I think the latest versions of Maps is incredible, 
> especially the new E.T.A feature.  However, what I like most about iOS 
> 13.x and by the same token, iPad OS 13 is the fact that now, as it was 
> many, many moons ago, all of my ripped DVD videos play perfectly on 
> all of my Apple devices.  This was certainly not the case in iOS 12 
> and earlier.  I am glad that Apple relinquished its death grip on the 
> types of videos it would and would not allow to be played on Apple 
> devices, in the hope of getting customers to purchase / rent videos from the 
> iTunes Store.
>
> Oh, one more thing, while I am a heavy user of Braille using the 
> original Focus 40 Blue, as yet, I have not attempted to read any 
> lengthy pieces on my Braille display so cannot speak to any issues regarding 
> Braille displays.
>
> I can tell you, however, that while I adore the new dark mode on my 
> iPad Pro, I have elected not to engage this new feature on my 8 Plus.  Why?
> Well, the display seems to be too dark for my taste on the smaller 
> display and I find it easier to toggle Invert Display on and off, as 
> needed with the Home button.
>
> On the iPhone 11, however, given that there is no longer a Home 
> button, I do engage Dark mode, using the side button to Toggle 
> VoiceOver on and off, as needed.  As yet, I have not experienced a 
> loss of VoiceOver before, during, or after calls, of any kind.
>
> I am of the opinion that iOS 12 with Watch OS 5 work much better, 
> together, than iOS 13 with Watch OS 6, especially where Bluetooth 
> audio switching is concerned; at least, this has been my experience so far.
>
> Still, all of my "must-have" apps work as expected and I have yet to 
> encounter any show-stoppers in iOS 13.x, so far.
>
> So, if you have not yet updated to iOS 13.x yet, wait a little longer 
> before doing so but if you're ready to jump in and begin sending 
> Apple, along with third-party developers, bug reports as you encounter 
> them, go ahead and make the leap as we can use all of the proverbial 
> voices we can get in order to get the attention of all of the 
> developers to resolve various iOS 13.x issues.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Angie Nutt
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
>
> The only thing stopping me from upgrading is the losing sound when 

Re: please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

[Richard Turner]

Direct line typing is not a phrase I'm familiar with, but have they checked 
under settings, general, keyboard and turned off Slide To Type?
It is on by default, and unless you know how to use it, typing gets very 
strange.
HTH,




Richard
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-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:


Hi folks

A belgian user is reporting a bug that the typing method direct blind typing is 
completely broken on her iphone after update from 13.1.1 to 13.1.2.
I cannot confirm this bug because I am still an ios12 user.
Davy

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please confirm this bug or not - typing methods in ios13.1.2

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks 

A belgian user is reporting a bug that the typing method direct blind typing is 
completely broken on her iphone after update from 13.1.1 to 13.1.2.
I cannot confirm this bug because I am still an ios12 user.
Davy 

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