Re: Pros & cons of Apple maps vs Google maps

[PRAMIT BHARGAVA]

I am using Google map in and out. and find it much easier and accessible.

Pramit

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 6:15 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Google maps is my go-to GPS app.
> The interface for VoiceOver users is much better than Apple Maps, in my
> opinion.
> You can do what amounts to a virtual walk-through of the route before you
> get on the road.
> You can have it show you the steps if you want, or you can just start the
> navigation.
> It just keeps getting better with each update.
> If you want one that is more geared for the blind, you may want to take a
> look at Nearby Explorer Online.
> It is a bit funky to use, but has a lot of functions you can turn on or
> off, but for simplicity and accuracy, I always go back to Google Maps.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
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> Wagner
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
>
> For years I have used Navigon but want to switch to a GPS app with
> online maps.  What are the pros and cons between these two apps? Or, do any
> of you have strong feelings about another GPS app?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
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iPad mini 5: what does this mean

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I got an iPad mini 5 and after the setup all the apps from my iPhone show on
various pages but I am not sure what some explanations mean. For example,
the Audio Bible icon says "audio Bible waiting, double tap to open" but when
I double tap nothing happens. The audio memos icon says "audio memos loading
in iCloud, double tap to download" but when I double tap nothing happens.
Other apps start to download but no progress after 1 percent. On my pc with
the same wifi network I can download emails and other files. Can someone
please explain?
Regards
Fanus
 

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Not receiving my iTunes receipts, need help thanks

[Tiffany]

 I hope it’s OK to send this through to the group, I’m not receiving any of my 
iTunes purchases, or receipts, not receiving any iTunes receipts, have not been 
receiving them for a few months now, they told me to contact my email server, 
they said nothing is blocked, but still not receiving them, it’s been that way 
for a few months, has anyone else experienced this issue yet, and what did you 
do thank you hope it’s OK to put this through to the group

珞

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RE: Phone Starts Slow-ly

['Doug Oliver' via VIPhone]

Now I have it on my 11 pro max, it works fine.


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From: 'Doug Oliver' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 10:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone Starts Slow-ly

I had to stop and start voiceover a couple of times and finally took care of 
the problem.  I know it's tedious, but it's a workaround.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone Starts Slow-ly

I recently updated to iOS 13.3 on an 8 Plus, and I'm noticing a behavior I 
can't fathom and don't like. Immediately upon iOS startup, the phone is 
incredibly sluggish. I mean really low, like even slower than my 4s was! But 
after about five minutes or so, that sluggishness goes away and the phone 
operates at normal iOS 13.3 speed. Or should that be normal 8 Plus speed? 
Either way, the sluggish operation happens each and every time I restart the 
phone. Has anyone else experienced this and solved it? If so, how'd you do it?


TIA

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RE: Phone Starts Slow-ly

['Doug Oliver' via VIPhone]

I had to stop and start voiceover a couple of times and finally took care of 
the problem.  I know it's tedious, but it's a workaround.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone Starts Slow-ly

I recently updated to iOS 13.3 on an 8 Plus, and I'm noticing a behavior I 
can't fathom and don't like. Immediately upon iOS startup, the phone is 
incredibly sluggish. I mean really low, like even slower than my 4s was! But 
after about five minutes or so, that sluggishness goes away and the phone 
operates at normal iOS 13.3 speed. Or should that be normal 8 Plus speed? 
Either way, the sluggish operation happens each and every time I restart the 
phone. Has anyone else experienced this and solved it? If so, how'd you do it?


TIA

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RE: an attached copy of my trial song with dolby on, this is an mp3 file

[Anne West]

Awesome!

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Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 13:40
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Subject: an attached copy of my trial song with dolby on, this is an mp3 file

Hi to all.  Please let me know what you all think of my song.  I am going to 
have loads of fun with this app.

--
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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RE: iPhone SE.

[Carolyn]

Yes, I've always written iOS. JAWS does say that right. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone SE.

Exactly, SE is both upper case and if written this way Jaws will pronounce it 
correctly.

It’s the same with iOS or iPhone, Jaws will say it correctly if you write it 
with a lower case I, then an upper case OS or Phone.

If you write it all lower case like ios or iphone or capitalize the first I 
like Ios or Iphone not only will Jaws pronounce it incorrectly, if you have 
spell check turned on in Outlook it will also flag it as misspelled and if you 
do a spell check it will suggest the correct spelling.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

Yes, call it an SE. In fact, you could set the Jaws dictionary to say it that 
way if that would help. 

If you write SE in all capital letters, Jaws should say SE.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:

There is, but JAWS pronounces it like say, so that is what I've always 
called mine. So should I call one an S E? That was my question. 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

Excuse me for being ignorant, but I thought there was only one s e.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net  >
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 8:42:44 PM
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Subject: iPhone SE. 

Question? Is the iPhone SE a SE or an S E? Someone didn't know what I 
was talking about when I said something about my SE. 

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RE: iPhone SE.

[Carolyn]

I do, and it says SE, like say. So, someone told me no one would know what I'm 
talking about, when I call it a SE, which I have for the almost two years that 
I had it. 

I have to say that while I liked it, and it probably was the best phone for me 
to learn on, I am really happy with my 11. On the say, I am sure I have said on 
this list, the button was off the Volume Up, so I'd have to find something to 
make it turn up, if I needed that. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

Yes, call it an SE. In fact, you could set the Jaws dictionary to say it that 
way if that would help. 
If you write SE in all capital letters, Jaws should say SE.




Richard
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On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



There is, but JAWS pronounces it like say, so that is what I've always 
called mine. So should I call one an S E? That was my question. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

Excuse me for being ignorant, but I thought there was only one s e.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 8:42:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: iPhone SE. 

Question? Is the iPhone SE a SE or an S E? Someone didn't know what I 
was talking about when I said something about my SE. 

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Re: Pros & cons of Apple maps vs Google maps

[Richard Turner]

Google maps is my go-to GPS app.
The interface for VoiceOver users is much better than Apple Maps, in my opinion.
You can do what amounts to a virtual walk-through of the route before you get 
on the road.
You can have it show you the steps if you want, or you can just start the 
navigation.
It just keeps getting better with each update.
If you want one that is more geared for the blind, you may want to take a look 
at Nearby Explorer Online.
It is a bit funky to use, but has a lot of functions you can turn on or off, 
but for simplicity and accuracy, I always go back to Google Maps.




Richard
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On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Jeff Samco  wrote:

For years I have used Navigon but want to switch to a GPS app with online 
maps.  What are the pros and cons between these two apps? Or, do any of you 
have strong feelings about another GPS app?

Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: Pros & cons of Apple maps vs Google maps

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
I like the user interface more on Google maps compared to Apple Maps. 

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> maps.  What are the pros and cons between these two apps? Or, do any of you 
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Pros & cons of Apple maps vs Google maps

[Jeff Samco]

For years I have used Navigon but want to switch to a GPS app with 
online maps.  What are the pros and cons between these two apps? Or, 
do any of you have strong feelings about another GPS app?


Thanks,
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Re: External drives and iPhones, was about Document 7

[Ryan Mann]

The adapter I am using is called an Apple Lightning to USB3 Camera Adapter.  I 
just looked on Amazon hoping to be able to give a link, but it is no longer 
available for some reason.  I have successfully used thumb drives up to 16 
gigabytes.
  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Richard Turner  
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>  I've started a new thread in hopes to get the thread accurately matching 
> the subject.
> I would appreciate it if people would say exactly what kind of, and size of, 
> a drive they are talking about.
> When I read "Thumb Drive" I'm thinking less than 32 GB.
> When I read "Flash Drive" that could be several gigabytes. 
> I would be shocked if any iPhone could handle a multi-gigabyte drive.
> But nothing will be cleared up unless folks are specific about the drives 
> they use successfully, or fail to be able to use.
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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RE: External drives and iPhones, was about Document 7

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That’s a good idea, those who use drives of any sort successfully with an 
iPhone should specify the exact make and model as well as exactly which adapter 
they use.
As I said, on my iPhone 8 even my at least 3 or 4 year old Kingston 
DataTraveller 2.0 drive with an 8Gb capacity is giving me the message that it 
requires too much power.
Why a less than 32Gb drive should require less power than a 64Gb or 128Gb to me 
makes no sense and “thumb drive” or “flashdrive” is semantics because both use 
solid stage storage technology and the word “thumb drive” I think strictly 
refers to what traditionally was a drive about the size of a thumb. Of course 
nowadays you can get drives in all sorts of shapes from hearts to bullets and 
some more traditional ones which are half the size of your pinky finger so 
maybe we should call them “half pinky drives”.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 3:57 PM
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Subject: External drives and iPhones, was about Document 7

I've started a new thread in hopes to get the thread accurately matching the 
subject.
I would appreciate it if people would say exactly what kind of, and size of, a 
drive they are talking about.
When I read "Thumb Drive" I'm thinking less than 32 GB.
When I read "Flash Drive" that could be several gigabytes.
I would be shocked if any iPhone could handle a multi-gigabyte drive.
But nothing will be cleared up unless folks are specific about the drives they 
use successfully, or fail to be able to use.
Thanks,



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External drives and iPhones, was about Document 7

[Richard Turner]

I've started a new thread in hopes to get the thread accurately matching the 
subject.
I would appreciate it if people would say exactly what kind of, and size of, a 
drive they are talking about.
When I read "Thumb Drive" I'm thinking less than 32 GB.
When I read "Flash Drive" that could be several gigabytes.
I would be shocked if any iPhone could handle a multi-gigabyte drive.
But nothing will be cleared up unless folks are specific about the drives they 
use successfully, or fail to be able to use.
Thanks,




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RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK, then maybe it’s different with the split cable you have, it certainly makes 
no difference whether I provide power to the phone via the wireless charger and 
logically it makes no sense that it would be different with your splitter, but 
if it is then that’s good.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

That’s not correct.  I have tried thumb drives that said they required too much 
power.  Then when I pluged the phone charger in, I am able to use them 
successfully.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 5, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

OK, then that is simply meant to allow for charging while also using this 
Lightning to USB adapter, but I doubt it will provide any power to any 
connected USB device. It really is no different than using a simple Lightning 
to USB cable and putting the phone on a wireless charger which I tried and 
which makes no difference. If it says the connected USB accessory requires too 
much power then it says so regardless whether the phone is charging or not and 
I assume that your Camera Kit with a Lightning charging port acts no 
differently than a wireless charger, e.g. it charges the iPhone’s battery, but 
if the iPhone specs don’t provide enough power to run a particular USB device 
then that is simply a limitation of the iPhone and it won’t provide more power 
simply because you have it plugged in and charging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

With the Apple USB camera kit I have, one end plugs into the lightning port on 
your phone.  The other end has both a USB port and a lightning port.  You plug 
the thumb drive into the USB port.  You plug the phone charging chord into the 
lightning port.

Sent from my iPhone



On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I also would like to know what Ryan means by plugging the camera adapter into 
an outlet, as Russ says, the Apple Camera Kit is a short piece of cable with a 
Lightning port on one end and a regular USB plug on the other.
Having said this, I just tried my Apple Camera adapter with a 2 TB Seagate USB 
drive which on a laptop certainly does not need or can be plugged into any 
power source and it did not work and neither did it work when I tried an older 
Kingston DataTraveller 2.0 USb drive with an 8Gb capacity.
The DataTraveller was even identified correctly, e.g.  “Could not use USB 
accessory DataTraveller 2.0”
My iPhone 8 was charged to 93% and the result was the same when I plugged in 
the USB drive while my iPhone was on it’s wireless charging mat.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

My camera adaptor has no option to plug it into a ac outlet.  One end has the 
lightning ccconnector the other is the usb port.  I must have bought the wrong 
one?

From: Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

With the thumb drives that you couldn’t get to work with it, did you try them 
with the camera adapter plugged into an electrical outlet?

Sent from my iPhone




On Jan 5, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Russ Kiehne 
mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Likewise, I bought the Apple-Lightning-USB-Camera-Adapter and only one of the 
several flash drives I have work with it.  How do you find out what flash 
drives work with it before you buy one?
Also I couldn’t find how to transfer a .zip file from the flash drive to voice 
dream reader.

From: Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
Thanks.

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
To: 

Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Ryan Mann]

That’s not correct.  I have tried thumb drives that said they required too much 
power.  Then when I pluged the phone charger in, I am able to use them 
successfully.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> OK, then that is simply meant to allow for charging while also using this 
> Lightning to USB adapter, but I doubt it will provide any power to any 
> connected USB device. It really is no different than using a simple Lightning 
> to USB cable and putting the phone on a wireless charger which I tried and 
> which makes no difference. If it says the connected USB accessory requires 
> too much power then it says so regardless whether the phone is charging or 
> not and I assume that your Camera Kit with a Lightning charging port acts no 
> differently than a wireless charger, e.g. it charges the iPhone’s battery, 
> but if the iPhone specs don’t provide enough power to run a particular USB 
> device then that is simply a limitation of the iPhone and it won’t provide 
> more power simply because you have it plugged in and charging.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 1:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> With the Apple USB camera kit I have, one end plugs into the lightning port 
> on your phone.  The other end has both a USB port and a lightning port.  You 
> plug the thumb drive into the USB port.  You plug the phone charging chord 
> into the lightning port.
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I also would like to know what Ryan means by plugging the camera adapter into 
> an outlet, as Russ says, the Apple Camera Kit is a short piece of cable with 
> a Lightning port on one end and a regular USB plug on the other.
> Having said this, I just tried my Apple Camera adapter with a 2 TB Seagate 
> USB drive which on a laptop certainly does not need or can be plugged into 
> any power source and it did not work and neither did it work when I tried an 
> older Kingston DataTraveller 2.0 USb drive with an 8Gb capacity.
> The DataTraveller was even identified correctly, e.g.  “Could not use USB 
> accessory DataTraveller 2.0”
> My iPhone 8 was charged to 93% and the result was the same when I plugged in 
> the USB drive while my iPhone was on it’s wireless charging mat.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
> Kiehne
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> My camera adaptor has no option to plug it into a ac outlet.  One end has the 
> lightning ccconnector the other is the usb port.  I must have bought the 
> wrong one?
>  
> From: Ryan Mann
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> With the thumb drives that you couldn’t get to work with it, did you try them 
> with the camera adapter plugged into an electrical outlet?
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> 
> Likewise, I bought the Apple-Lightning-USB-Camera-Adapter and only one of the 
> several flash drives I have work with it.  How do you find out what flash 
> drives work with it before you buy one?
> Also I couldn’t find how to transfer a .zip file from the flash drive to 
> voice dream reader.
>  
> From: Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
> thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
> iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
> Thanks.
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do 
> so. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> 
> Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?
>  
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM
> To: VIPhone via ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to 
> shame
>  
> I wonder if this is 

RE: iPhone SE.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Exactly, SE is both upper case and if written this way Jaws will pronounce it 
correctly.
It’s the same with iOS or iPhone, Jaws will say it correctly if you write it 
with a lower case I, then an upper case OS or Phone.
If you write it all lower case like ios or iphone or capitalize the first I 
like Ios or Iphone not only will Jaws pronounce it incorrectly, if you have 
spell check turned on in Outlook it will also flag it as misspelled and if you 
do a spell check it will suggest the correct spelling.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

Yes, call it an SE. In fact, you could set the Jaws dictionary to say it that 
way if that would help.
If you write SE in all capital letters, Jaws should say SE.



Richard
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On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
There is, but JAWS pronounces it like say, so that is what I've always called 
mine. So should I call one an S E? That was my question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

Excuse me for being ignorant, but I thought there was only one s e.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 8:42:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: iPhone SE.

Question? Is the iPhone SE a SE or an S E? Someone didn't know what I was 
talking about when I said something about my SE.

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Re: iPhone SE.

[Richard Turner]

Yes, call it an SE. In fact, you could set the Jaws dictionary to say it that 
way if that would help.
If you write SE in all capital letters, Jaws should say SE.




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On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

There is, but JAWS pronounces it like say, so that is what I've always called 
mine. So should I call one an S E? That was my question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Stone
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

Excuse me for being ignorant, but I thought there was only one s e.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 8:42:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: iPhone SE.

Question? Is the iPhone SE a SE or an S E? Someone didn't know what I was 
talking about when I said something about my SE.

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RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK, then that is simply meant to allow for charging while also using this 
Lightning to USB adapter, but I doubt it will provide any power to any 
connected USB device. It really is no different than using a simple Lightning 
to USB cable and putting the phone on a wireless charger which I tried and 
which makes no difference. If it says the connected USB accessory requires too 
much power then it says so regardless whether the phone is charging or not and 
I assume that your Camera Kit with a Lightning charging port acts no 
differently than a wireless charger, e.g. it charges the iPhone’s battery, but 
if the iPhone specs don’t provide enough power to run a particular USB device 
then that is simply a limitation of the iPhone and it won’t provide more power 
simply because you have it plugged in and charging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

With the Apple USB camera kit I have, one end plugs into the lightning port on 
your phone.  The other end has both a USB port and a lightning port.  You plug 
the thumb drive into the USB port.  You plug the phone charging chord into the 
lightning port.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I also would like to know what Ryan means by plugging the camera adapter into 
an outlet, as Russ says, the Apple Camera Kit is a short piece of cable with a 
Lightning port on one end and a regular USB plug on the other.
Having said this, I just tried my Apple Camera adapter with a 2 TB Seagate USB 
drive which on a laptop certainly does not need or can be plugged into any 
power source and it did not work and neither did it work when I tried an older 
Kingston DataTraveller 2.0 USb drive with an 8Gb capacity.
The DataTraveller was even identified correctly, e.g.  “Could not use USB 
accessory DataTraveller 2.0”
My iPhone 8 was charged to 93% and the result was the same when I plugged in 
the USB drive while my iPhone was on it’s wireless charging mat.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

My camera adaptor has no option to plug it into a ac outlet.  One end has the 
lightning ccconnector the other is the usb port.  I must have bought the wrong 
one?

From: Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

With the thumb drives that you couldn’t get to work with it, did you try them 
with the camera adapter plugged into an electrical outlet?

Sent from my iPhone



On Jan 5, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Russ Kiehne 
mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Likewise, I bought the Apple-Lightning-USB-Camera-Adapter and only one of the 
several flash drives I have work with it.  How do you find out what flash 
drives work with it before you buy one?
Also I couldn’t find how to transfer a .zip file from the flash drive to voice 
dream reader.

From: Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
Thanks.

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do so.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne 
mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM
To: VIPhone via ; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to 
shame

I wonder if this is accessible.

Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame
Macworld  /  J.R. 

RE: iPhone SE.

[Carolyn]

There is, but JAWS pronounces it like say, so that is what I've always called 
mine. So should I call one an S E? That was my question. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Stone
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

Excuse me for being ignorant, but I thought there was only one s e.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 8:42:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: iPhone SE. 
 
Question? Is the iPhone SE a SE or an S E? Someone didn't know what I was 
talking about when I said something about my SE. 

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Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Ryan Mann]

With the Apple USB camera kit I have, one end plugs into the lightning port on 
your phone.  The other end has both a USB port and a lightning port.  You plug 
the thumb drive into the USB port.  You plug the phone charging chord into the 
lightning port.
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I also would like to know what Ryan means by plugging the camera adapter into 
> an outlet, as Russ says, the Apple Camera Kit is a short piece of cable with 
> a Lightning port on one end and a regular USB plug on the other.
> Having said this, I just tried my Apple Camera adapter with a 2 TB Seagate 
> USB drive which on a laptop certainly does not need or can be plugged into 
> any power source and it did not work and neither did it work when I tried an 
> older Kingston DataTraveller 2.0 USb drive with an 8Gb capacity.
> The DataTraveller was even identified correctly, e.g.  “Could not use USB 
> accessory DataTraveller 2.0”
> My iPhone 8 was charged to 93% and the result was the same when I plugged in 
> the USB drive while my iPhone was on it’s wireless charging mat.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
> Kiehne
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> My camera adaptor has no option to plug it into a ac outlet.  One end has the 
> lightning ccconnector the other is the usb port.  I must have bought the 
> wrong one?
>  
> From: Ryan Mann
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> With the thumb drives that you couldn’t get to work with it, did you try them 
> with the camera adapter plugged into an electrical outlet?
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> 
> Likewise, I bought the Apple-Lightning-USB-Camera-Adapter and only one of the 
> several flash drives I have work with it.  How do you find out what flash 
> drives work with it before you buy one?
> Also I couldn’t find how to transfer a .zip file from the flash drive to 
> voice dream reader.
>  
> From: Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
> thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
> iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
> Thanks.
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do 
> so. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> 
> Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?
>  
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM
> To: VIPhone via ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to 
> shame
>  
> I wonder if this is accessible.
>  
> Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame
> Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter
>  
> 
> Documents 7 is a free iOS app for reading PDF, EPUB, Word, and Excel 
> documents, opening ZIP archives, viewing images, downloading and much more.
> 
> 
> At a Glance
> · Documents 7
> 
> Learn more
> 
> on App Store
> 
> It took Apple nearly a decade to bring proper file management to the iPhone 
> and iPad with the arrival of the Files app in iOS 11. Over the same period of 
> time, an enterprising third-party developer based in Odessa, Ukraine was busy 
> refining its own file manager app, which outshines Apple’s in almost every 
> conceivable way.
> 
> Documents 7 is the latest incarnation of the versatile iOS utility that 
> started as clever web app ReaddleDocs, named for the up-and-coming startup 
> who created it. The mobile equivalent of macOS Finder, this 
> jack-of-all-trades allows iPhone and iPad owners to browse, view, and manage 
> files with ease, all from an intuitive user interface that puts Apple’s own 
> Files to shame.
> 
> 
> Documents 7 brings the Plus button to iPhone, making it easier for users to 
> create and import files from almost anywhere.
> 
> Although there was little to dislike about the look and feel of prior 
> releases, Documents 7 adds a fresh coat of paint 

Re: iPhone SE.

[Alex Stone]

Excuse me for being ignorant, but I thought there was only one s e.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 8:42:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: iPhone SE.

Question? Is the iPhone SE a SE or an S E? Someone didn't
know what I was talking about when I said something about my
SE.

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iPhone SE.

[Carolyn]

Question? Is the iPhone SE a SE or an S E? Someone didn't
know what I was talking about when I said something about my
SE. 

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RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I also would like to know what Ryan means by plugging the camera adapter into 
an outlet, as Russ says, the Apple Camera Kit is a short piece of cable with a 
Lightning port on one end and a regular USB plug on the other.
Having said this, I just tried my Apple Camera adapter with a 2 TB Seagate USB 
drive which on a laptop certainly does not need or can be plugged into any 
power source and it did not work and neither did it work when I tried an older 
Kingston DataTraveller 2.0 USb drive with an 8Gb capacity.
The DataTraveller was even identified correctly, e.g.  “Could not use USB 
accessory DataTraveller 2.0”
My iPhone 8 was charged to 93% and the result was the same when I plugged in 
the USB drive while my iPhone was on it’s wireless charging mat.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

My camera adaptor has no option to plug it into a ac outlet.  One end has the 
lightning ccconnector the other is the usb port.  I must have bought the wrong 
one?

From: Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

With the thumb drives that you couldn’t get to work with it, did you try them 
with the camera adapter plugged into an electrical outlet?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 5, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Likewise, I bought the Apple-Lightning-USB-Camera-Adapter and only one of the 
several flash drives I have work with it.  How do you find out what flash 
drives work with it before you buy one?
Also I couldn’t find how to transfer a .zip file from the flash drive to voice 
dream reader.

From: Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
Thanks.

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do so.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM
To: VIPhone via ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to 
shame

I wonder if this is accessible.

Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame
Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter

Documents 7 is a free iOS app for reading PDF, EPUB, Word, and Excel documents, 
opening ZIP archives, viewing images, downloading and much more.
[documents 7 ios icon]
At a Glance
· Documents 7

Learn 
more

on App 
Store

It took Apple nearly a decade to bring proper file management to the iPhone and 
iPad with the arrival of the Files app in iOS 11. Over the same period of time, 
an enterprising third-party developer based in Odessa, Ukraine was busy 
refining its own file manager app, which outshines Apple’s in almost every 
conceivable way.

Documents 7 is the latest incarnation of the 
versatile iOS utility that started as clever web app ReaddleDocs, named for the 
up-and-coming startup who created it. The mobile equivalent of macOS Finder, 
this jack-of-all-trades allows iPhone and iPad owners to browse, view, and 
manage files with ease, all from an intuitive user interface that puts Apple’s 
own Files to shame.
[documents 7 iphone plus button 
menu]

Documents 7 brings the Plus button to iPhone, making it easier for users to 
create and import files from almost anywhere.

Although there was little to dislike about the look and feel of prior releases, 
Documents 7 adds a fresh coat of paint inspired by the company’s recent PDF 
Expert 7, a robust tool for document editing and 
annotation. The result is a refined UI that makes viewing and organizing files 
a more organic experience, with support for iOS 13’s 

RE: SE 2 iPhone fact or fiction?

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Friends don't let friend's hijack threads...

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SE 2 iPhone fact or fiction?

Yes, you can change the subject, but that does not change the thread. It's like 
changing the Walmart sign on a Walmart into a Best Buy sign, but simply doing 
this does not make a Walmart into a Best Buy.
A new thread should have been started for this, a new subject still groups any 
messages with the old Seeing AI thread..

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 4:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: SE 2 iPhone fact or fiction?

Hello all,
Please note how easy it is to change the subject when you change the discussion 
thread. Below is the stated topic that was posted under "Seeing AI"


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

Not sure how this ended up in a thread with subject "Seeing AI", but no, any 
phone released this spring would not be 5G. Rumours are that this fall's new 
iPhones will support it, but as Richard said, we won't know for sure. Anyways, 
5G in the mainstream is still at least 2 years away for most of us. Especially 
here in Canada we first have to see what the government decides with respect to 
letting Huawei become part of the 5G infrastructure or not.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

When Apple announces the new phone, we will find out if it is 5G, and what it 
will be called, etc.
Up to now, it is all rumor.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

Would that be a 5-G phone?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2020 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

In fact, if an SE 2 phone is released in the next few months which now seems 
quite likely, it is certainly going to still have a home button, but it will be 
a virtual home button like on the iPhon e8 not a mechanical button like on the 
6S or the current SE. This means there is a small indent in the screen which 
feels like the home button, but pressing on it only generates a small amount of 
haptic feedback which again feels a little like pressing an actual button, but 
there is no mechanical component which is subject to wear and tear and of 
course as it's just part of the screen there is no way for this to be a place 
where any moisture could get in.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI?

Tell me what I need to know to work it, please. 

Today, I just got an iPhone 11. I think I am going to really like it. I can see 
why they eliminated the Home Button - more screen room. The guy that set up my 
phone said I was right. He doesn't think one will ever be back, even if a SE 
comes out this spring. 

Here's my question. How to I use Seeing AI? I got him to download it for me. 

Incidentally, for $19.99, I got a wireless charger and am so glad I did. 


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RE: How to change the order in which options appear while sharing something on your iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Because that is a new feature, the most recently contacted people show up first 
since very often it is likely somebody would want to share something with a 
regular group of people.
I really like this, but the feature does not work properly since typically only 
those contacts with whom you exchanged text messages are listed and the list 
seems to be based on what you did in the Messages app rather than what you most 
recently shared.
For example, I often share news articles with a friend in Germany by email or 
WhatsApp. However, at best my friend's listing with the word "Mail" behind it 
shows up right after I shared something and I share again, if I want to share 
an article by email with him tomorrow he is no longer in the list and I don't 
think I have ever seen a contact in the list with whom I shared via WhatsApp. I 
wish Apple would fix this so that the list truly contained contacts and the 
method I used to share stuff with.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
TaraPrakash
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to change the order in which options appear while sharing 
something on your iPhone

Dear all. Why is sharing something like a photo, iPhone presents option of apps 
available where you can share The file. In the latest iOS, it starts with the 
contacts frequently contacted. I’ve tried to change it through more option but 
have not been able to do it. I will appreciate your help in this With gratitude 
best regards 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: SE 2 iPhone fact or fiction?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, you can change the subject, but that does not change the thread. It's like 
changing the Walmart sign on a Walmart into a Best Buy sign, but simply doing 
this does not make a Walmart into a Best Buy.
A new thread should have been started for this, a new subject still groups any 
messages with the old Seeing AI thread..

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 4:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: SE 2 iPhone fact or fiction?

Hello all,
Please note how easy it is to change the subject when you change the discussion 
thread. Below is the stated topic that was posted under "Seeing AI"


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

Not sure how this ended up in a thread with subject "Seeing AI", but no, any 
phone released this spring would not be 5G. Rumours are that this fall's new 
iPhones will support it, but as Richard said, we won't know for sure. Anyways, 
5G in the mainstream is still at least 2 years away for most of us. Especially 
here in Canada we first have to see what the government decides with respect to 
letting Huawei become part of the 5G infrastructure or not.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

When Apple announces the new phone, we will find out if it is 5G, and what it 
will be called, etc.
Up to now, it is all rumor.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

Would that be a 5-G phone?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2020 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

In fact, if an SE 2 phone is released in the next few months which now seems 
quite likely, it is certainly going to still have a home button, but it will be 
a virtual home button like on the iPhon e8 not a mechanical button like on the 
6S or the current SE. This means there is a small indent in the screen which 
feels like the home button, but pressing on it only generates a small amount of 
haptic feedback which again feels a little like pressing an actual button, but 
there is no mechanical component which is subject to wear and tear and of 
course as it's just part of the screen there is no way for this to be a place 
where any moisture could get in.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI?

Tell me what I need to know to work it, please. 

Today, I just got an iPhone 11. I think I am going to really like it. I can see 
why they eliminated the Home Button - more screen room. The guy that set up my 
phone said I was right. He doesn't think one will ever be back, even if a SE 
comes out this spring. 

Here's my question. How to I use Seeing AI? I got him to download it for me. 

Incidentally, for $19.99, I got a wireless charger and am so glad I did. 


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This/these msgs have nothing to do with the subjectline, RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[territek]

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 7:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

 

Likewise, I bought the Apple-Lightning-USB-Camera-Adapter and only one of the 
several flash drives I have work with it.  How do you find out what flash 
drives work with it before you buy one?

Also I couldn’t find how to transfer a .zip file from the flash drive to voice 
dream reader.

 

From: Jim Fettgather 

Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:02 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

 

Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.

Thanks.

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

 

I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

 

I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do so. 
 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne mailto:russ94...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?

 

From: Mary Otten 

Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM

To: VIPhone via ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com 
  

Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to 
shame

 

I wonder if this is accessible.

 

Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter

 


Documents 7 is a free iOS app for reading PDF, EPUB, Word, and Excel documents, 
opening ZIP archives, viewing images, downloading and much more.


  

 

At a Glance


* Documents 7 


Learn more 

  

on  

 App Store 

It took Apple nearly a decade to bring proper file management to the iPhone and 
iPad with the arrival of the Files app in iOS 11. Over the same period of time, 
an enterprising third-party developer based in Odessa, Ukraine was busy 
refining its own file manager app, which outshines Apple’s in almost every 
conceivable way.

Documents 7   is the latest incarnation of the 
versatile iOS utility that started as clever web app ReaddleDocs, named for the 
up-and-coming startup who created it. The mobile equivalent of macOS Finder, 
this jack-of-all-trades allows iPhone and iPad owners to browse, view, and 
manage files with ease, all from an intuitive user interface that puts Apple’s 
own Files to shame.

 

 

Documents 7 brings the Plus button to iPhone, making it easier for users to 
create and import files from almost anywhere.

Although there was little to dislike about the look and feel of prior releases, 
Documents 7 adds a fresh coat of paint inspired by the company’s recent PDF 
Expert 7  , a robust tool for document editing and 
annotation. The result is a refined UI that makes viewing and organizing files 
a more organic experience, with support for iOS 13’s new Dark Mode and floating 
keyboard. iPad users can also now open more than one Documents window at a 
time, great for side-by-side comparison or to drag and drop content between 
them.

Making its way from iPad to iPhone is the Plus button, a convenient one-tap 
popup in the lower right corner which speeds up creation of new folders, text 
and PDF files, scanning new documents, or importing existing files from iCloud 
Drive, Photos, cloud storage providers, or network-attached sources. Naturally, 
there’s also integration with the built-in Files app for seamlessly accessing 
content stored there, as well as opening files saved in existing Locations 
within Documents 7.


PDF master


>From the beginning, Documents 7 included a built-in web browser, which now 
>offers private browsing mode. On the iPhone, browser settings are conveniently 
>located from any open tab—no more hopping back to in-app settings just to 

Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

I have what Amazon calls a “
[Apple MFI Certified] OMARS® Meteorite Lightning Flash Drive USB 3.0 32GB 
Memory Expansion for Apple iPhone iPod iPad & Computer Mac Laptop PC








”

This device has a built in 32Gb SD card.  It also has a rechargeable battery 
that can be charged via a PC via the USB port on the unit.

The device has two ports one at either end.  A standard USB for connecting to a 
PC and at the other end a Lightning Connector.

When you first use the device you are required to download an app from the App 
Store.  The app calls itself I-Drive.  Using this app you can access the device.

Unfortunately however it is invisible to Apple’s Files App.

No idea why.Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Jan 2020, at 14:52, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Russ,
> Are you saying you have a USB powered hub that you plugged into the adapter 
> that was plugged into the iPhone?
> That means you are adding multiple drives at once, which computers handle 
> fine; I am not sure iPhones or maybe even iPads can handle that.
> Have you called Apple Accessibility who maybe could answer your question 
> fairly quickly?  877-204-3930
>  
> Richard
>  
>  Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
> Kiehne
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> I tried pluging in a flash drive where I got the message: accessory requires 
> too much power into a usb powered hub.  when I connected the usb powered hub 
> into my device nothing happened.
>  
> From: Ryan Mann
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> Note that with some drives, you will get a message that the accessory 
> requires too much power.  In that case, you just need to do the following:
> Unplug the lightning to USB adapter from the phone.
> Plug the adapter into an electrical outlet.
> Plug the adapter back into the phone.
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
> thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
> iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
> Thanks.
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do 
> so. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> 
> Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?
>  
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM
> To: VIPhone via ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to 
> shame
>  
> I wonder if this is accessible.
>  
> Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame
> Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter
>  
> 
> Documents 7 is a free iOS app for reading PDF, EPUB, Word, and Excel 
> documents, opening ZIP archives, viewing images, downloading and much more.
> 
> 
> At a Glance
> ·Documents 7
> 
> Learn more
> 
> on App Store
> 
> It took Apple nearly a decade to bring proper file management to the iPhone 
> and iPad with the arrival of the Files app in iOS 11. Over the same period of 
> time, an enterprising third-party developer based in Odessa, Ukraine was busy 
> refining its own file manager app, which outshines Apple’s in almost every 
> conceivable way.
> 
> Documents 7 is the latest incarnation of the versatile iOS utility that 
> started as clever web app ReaddleDocs, named for the up-and-coming startup 
> who created it. The mobile equivalent of macOS Finder, this 
> jack-of-all-trades allows iPhone and iPad owners to browse, view, and manage 
> files with ease, all from an intuitive user interface that puts Apple’s own 
> Files to shame.
> 
> 
> Documents 7 brings the Plus button to iPhone, making it easier for users to 
> create and import files from almost anywhere.
> 
> Although there was little to dislike about the look and feel of prior 
> releases, Documents 7 adds a fresh coat of paint inspired by the company’s 
> recent PDF Expert 7, a robust tool for document editing and annotation. The 
> result is a refined UI that makes viewing and organizing files a more organic 
> experience, 

RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Richard Turner]

Russ,
Are you saying you have a USB powered hub that you plugged into the adapter 
that was plugged into the iPhone?
That means you are adding multiple drives at once, which computers handle fine; 
I am not sure iPhones or maybe even iPads can handle that.
Have you called Apple Accessibility who maybe could answer your question fairly 
quickly?  877-204-3930

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I tried pluging in a flash drive where I got the message: accessory requires 
too much power into a usb powered hub.  when I connected the usb powered hub 
into my device nothing happened.

From: Ryan Mann
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

Note that with some drives, you will get a message that the accessory requires 
too much power.  In that case, you just need to do the following:
Unplug the lightning to USB adapter from the phone.
Plug the adapter into an electrical outlet.
Plug the adapter back into the phone.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 4, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Jim Fettgather 
mailto:jimfettgat...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
Thanks.

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do so.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne 
mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM
To: VIPhone via ; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to 
shame

I wonder if this is accessible.

Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame
Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter

Documents 7 is a free iOS app for reading PDF, EPUB, Word, and Excel documents, 
opening ZIP archives, viewing images, downloading and much more.
[documents 7 ios icon]
At a Glance
·Documents 7

Learn 
more

on App 
Store

It took Apple nearly a decade to bring proper file management to the iPhone and 
iPad with the arrival of the Files app in iOS 11. Over the same period of time, 
an enterprising third-party developer based in Odessa, Ukraine was busy 
refining its own file manager app, which outshines Apple’s in almost every 
conceivable way.

Documents 
7
 is the latest incarnation of the versatile iOS utility that started as clever 
web app ReaddleDocs, named for the up-and-coming startup who created it. The 
mobile equivalent of macOS Finder, this jack-of-all-trades allows iPhone and 
iPad owners to browse, view, and manage files with ease, all from an intuitive 
user interface that puts Apple’s own Files to shame.
[documents 7 iphone plus button 

Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Russ Kiehne]

My camera adaptor has no option to plug it into a ac outlet.  One end has the 
lightning ccconnector the other is the usb port.  I must have bought the wrong 
one?

From: Ryan Mann 
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

With the thumb drives that you couldn’t get to work with it, did you try them 
with the camera adapter plugged into an electrical outlet? 



Sent from my iPhone


  On Jan 5, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:


   
  Likewise, I bought the Apple-Lightning-USB-Camera-Adapter and only one of the 
several flash drives I have work with it.  How do you find out what flash 
drives work with it before you buy one?
  Also I couldn’t find how to transfer a .zip file from the flash drive to 
voice dream reader.

  From: Jim Fettgather 
  Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:02 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

  Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
  Thanks.

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

  I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
  Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

   

  I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do 
so.  

  Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

 

Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?

 

From: Mary Otten 

Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM

To: VIPhone via ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

 

I wonder if this is accessible.

 

Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter





Documents 7 is a free iOS app for reading PDF, EPUB, Word, and Excel 
documents, opening ZIP archives, viewing images, downloading and much more.


At a Glance

· Documents 7 
Learn more 

on App Store 

It took Apple nearly a decade to bring proper file management to the iPhone 
and iPad with the arrival of the Files app in iOS 11. Over the same period of 
time, an enterprising third-party developer based in Odessa, Ukraine was busy 
refining its own file manager app, which outshines Apple’s in almost every 
conceivable way.

Documents 7 is the latest incarnation of the versatile iOS utility that 
started as clever web app ReaddleDocs, named for the up-and-coming startup who 
created it. The mobile equivalent of macOS Finder, this jack-of-all-trades 
allows iPhone and iPad owners to browse, view, and manage files with ease, all 
from an intuitive user interface that puts Apple’s own Files to shame.



Documents 7 brings the Plus button to iPhone, making it easier for users to 
create and import files from almost anywhere.

Although there was little to dislike about the look and feel of prior 
releases, Documents 7 adds a fresh coat of paint inspired by the company’s 
recent PDF Expert 7, a robust tool for document editing and annotation. The 
result is a refined UI that makes viewing and organizing files a more organic 
experience, with support for iOS 13’s new Dark Mode and floating keyboard. iPad 
users can also now open more than one Documents window at a time, great for 
side-by-side comparison or to drag and drop content between them.

Making its way from iPad to iPhone is the Plus button, a convenient one-tap 
popup in the lower right corner which speeds up creation of new folders, text 
and PDF files, scanning new documents, or importing existing files from iCloud 
Drive, Photos, cloud storage providers, or network-attached sources. Naturally, 
there’s also integration with the built-in Files app for seamlessly accessing 
content stored there, as well as opening files saved in existing Locations 
within Documents 7.

PDF master
From the beginning, Documents 7 included a built-in web browser, which now 
offers private browsing mode. On the iPhone, browser settings are conveniently 
located from any open tab—no more hopping back to in-app settings just to clear 
data or change the location of file downloads. There’s even a new option to 
choose DuckDuckGo, Yandex, Ecosia, or Yahoo as the default search engine 
instead of Google. (Yay, privacy!)



Whether it’s cloud storage, network-attached devices, or 

Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Russ Kiehne]

I tried pluging in a flash drive where I got the message: accessory requires 
too much power into a usb powered hub.  when I connected the usb powered hub 
into my device nothing happened.

From: Ryan Mann 
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

Note that with some drives, you will get a message that the accessory requires 
too much power.  In that case, you just need to do the following: 
Unplug the lightning to USB adapter from the phone.
Plug the adapter into an electrical outlet.
Plug the adapter back into the phone.



Sent from my iPhone


  On Jan 4, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:


   
  Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
  Thanks.

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

  I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
  Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

   

  I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do 
so.  

  Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

 

Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?

 

From: Mary Otten 

Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM

To: VIPhone via ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

 

I wonder if this is accessible.

 

Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter





Documents 7 is a free iOS app for reading PDF, EPUB, Word, and Excel 
documents, opening ZIP archives, viewing images, downloading and much more.


At a Glance

· Documents 7 
Learn more 

on App Store 

It took Apple nearly a decade to bring proper file management to the iPhone 
and iPad with the arrival of the Files app in iOS 11. Over the same period of 
time, an enterprising third-party developer based in Odessa, Ukraine was busy 
refining its own file manager app, which outshines Apple’s in almost every 
conceivable way.

Documents 7 is the latest incarnation of the versatile iOS utility that 
started as clever web app ReaddleDocs, named for the up-and-coming startup who 
created it. The mobile equivalent of macOS Finder, this jack-of-all-trades 
allows iPhone and iPad owners to browse, view, and manage files with ease, all 
from an intuitive user interface that puts Apple’s own Files to shame.



Documents 7 brings the Plus button to iPhone, making it easier for users to 
create and import files from almost anywhere.

Although there was little to dislike about the look and feel of prior 
releases, Documents 7 adds a fresh coat of paint inspired by the company’s 
recent PDF Expert 7, a robust tool for document editing and annotation. The 
result is a refined UI that makes viewing and organizing files a more organic 
experience, with support for iOS 13’s new Dark Mode and floating keyboard. iPad 
users can also now open more than one Documents window at a time, great for 
side-by-side comparison or to drag and drop content between them.

Making its way from iPad to iPhone is the Plus button, a convenient one-tap 
popup in the lower right corner which speeds up creation of new folders, text 
and PDF files, scanning new documents, or importing existing files from iCloud 
Drive, Photos, cloud storage providers, or network-attached sources. Naturally, 
there’s also integration with the built-in Files app for seamlessly accessing 
content stored there, as well as opening files saved in existing Locations 
within Documents 7.

PDF master
From the beginning, Documents 7 included a built-in web browser, which now 
offers private browsing mode. On the iPhone, browser settings are conveniently 
located from any open tab—no more hopping back to in-app settings just to clear 
data or change the location of file downloads. There’s even a new option to 
choose DuckDuckGo, Yandex, Ecosia, or Yahoo as the default search engine 
instead of Google. (Yay, privacy!)



Whether it’s cloud storage, network-attached devices, or remote servers, 
Documents 7 makes file management a snap.

While Documents has always been a very capable PDF reader, version 7.0 
introduces an option to turn the app into a full-fledged editor as well. After 
upgrading to an annual subscription ($50 per year), Documents 7 unlocks a full 
complement of 

Do not simply change the subject when replying to a message

[Richard Turner]

And, do not start talking about things not relevant to the subject line in a 
message.

I think a lot of new people, and some old, have fallen into the trap of hitting 
reply and either talking about something completely unrelated to the subject 
line; or simply edited the subject line after hitting reply; which ends up 
mixing those messages in with the original subject thread.

For those who use threading, it means either that they have to wade through a 
bunch of unrelated messages or they just delete the thread because the subject 
isn’t one they are interested in and will then miss those messages that are on 
new topics but still stuck in that original thread.

I’m not going to call out anyone or any thread in particular, but please just 
think about what you want to say, and if it doesn’t relate to the subject line, 
create a new message rather than just hitting reply and editing the subject.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


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External drives, was RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Richard Turner]

As I understand it, with an iPhone, any flash drive should work if it does not 
require power.
The iPhone does not have enough power to run an external drive that requires 
power.
So, if it is a multi-gigabyte flash drive that is normally used with a 
computer, it probably won’t work with an iPhone, unless your adapter allows the 
iPhone to be plugged into power while using that drive.

As for accessing the drive from Voice Dream Reader, I would using the File 
Browser portion of the Add File dialog in Voice Dream.

I have not tried one of these adapters yet, but from all my reading and 
conversations with folks, I think that is what you would do.
I use that to access my OneDrive when I want to add something to Voice Dream 
Reader from there.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

Likewise, I bought the Apple-Lightning-USB-Camera-Adapter and only one of the 
several flash drives I have work with it.  How do you find out what flash 
drives work with it before you buy one?
Also I couldn’t find how to transfer a .zip file from the flash drive to voice 
dream reader.

From: Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
Thanks.

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do so.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne 
mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM
To: VIPhone via ; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to 
shame

I wonder if this is accessible.

Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame
Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter

Documents 7 is a free iOS app for reading PDF, EPUB, Word, and Excel documents, 
opening ZIP archives, viewing images, downloading and much more.
[documents 7 ios icon]
At a Glance
·Documents 7

Learn 
more

on App 
Store

It took Apple nearly a decade to bring proper file management to the iPhone and 
iPad with the arrival of the Files app in iOS 11. Over the same period of time, 
an enterprising third-party developer based in Odessa, Ukraine was busy 
refining its own file manager app, which outshines Apple’s in almost every 
conceivable way.

Documents 
7
 is the latest incarnation of the versatile iOS utility that started as clever 
web app ReaddleDocs, named for the up-and-coming startup who created it. The 
mobile equivalent of macOS Finder, this jack-of-all-trades allows iPhone and 
iPad owners to browse, view, and manage files with ease, all from an intuitive 
user interface that puts Apple’s own Files to shame.
[documents 7 iphone plus button 

Re: an attached copy of my trial song with dolby on, this is an mp3 file

[Marie]

Nice and thanks for sharing. I am a country music addict and I sing all the 
time in the privacy of my own home. Can't sing worth a hoot but as long as 
it is only me, I can sing to my heart's content.

LOL!
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an attached copy of my trial song with dolby on, this is an mp3 
file


Hi Casey.  Here's a dropbox link to the file.  The link is:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ndsy66adzvp4orn/Borrowed%20Angel%20take%202.mp3?dl=1

On 1/4/20, Casey  wrote:

Hi I am using outlook and can't save this file.
So how do I do that I would like to hear it.




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2020 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an attached copy of my trial song with dolby on, this is an mp3
file

Hi to all.  Please let me know what you all think of my song.  I am
going to have loads of fun with this app.

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Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Ryan Mann]

With the thumb drives that you couldn’t get to work with it, did you try them 
with the camera adapter plugged into an electrical outlet?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> 
> Likewise, I bought the Apple-Lightning-USB-Camera-Adapter and only one of the 
> several flash drives I have work with it.  How do you find out what flash 
> drives work with it before you buy one?
> Also I couldn’t find how to transfer a .zip file from the flash drive to 
> voice dream reader.
>  
> From: Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
> thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
> iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
> Thanks.
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
> to shame
>  
> I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do 
> so. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> 
> Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?
>  
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM
> To: VIPhone via ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to 
> shame
>  
> I wonder if this is accessible.
>  
> Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame
> Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter
> 
> 
> Documents 7 is a free iOS app for reading PDF, EPUB, Word, and Excel 
> documents, opening ZIP archives, viewing images, downloading and much more.
> 
> 
> At a Glance
> · Documents 7
> 
> Learn more
> 
> on App Store
> 
> It took Apple nearly a decade to bring proper file management to the iPhone 
> and iPad with the arrival of the Files app in iOS 11. Over the same period of 
> time, an enterprising third-party developer based in Odessa, Ukraine was busy 
> refining its own file manager app, which outshines Apple’s in almost every 
> conceivable way.
> 
> Documents 7 is the latest incarnation of the versatile iOS utility that 
> started as clever web app ReaddleDocs, named for the up-and-coming startup 
> who created it. The mobile equivalent of macOS Finder, this 
> jack-of-all-trades allows iPhone and iPad owners to browse, view, and manage 
> files with ease, all from an intuitive user interface that puts Apple’s own 
> Files to shame.
> 
> 
> Documents 7 brings the Plus button to iPhone, making it easier for users to 
> create and import files from almost anywhere.
> 
> Although there was little to dislike about the look and feel of prior 
> releases, Documents 7 adds a fresh coat of paint inspired by the company’s 
> recent PDF Expert 7, a robust tool for document editing and annotation. The 
> result is a refined UI that makes viewing and organizing files a more organic 
> experience, with support for iOS 13’s new Dark Mode and floating keyboard. 
> iPad users can also now open more than one Documents window at a time, great 
> for side-by-side comparison or to drag and drop content between them.
> 
> Making its way from iPad to iPhone is the Plus button, a convenient one-tap 
> popup in the lower right corner which speeds up creation of new folders, text 
> and PDF files, scanning new documents, or importing existing files from 
> iCloud Drive, Photos, cloud storage providers, or network-attached sources. 
> Naturally, there’s also integration with the built-in Files app for 
> seamlessly accessing content stored there, as well as opening files saved in 
> existing Locations within Documents 7.
> 
> PDF master
> 
> From the beginning, Documents 7 included a built-in web browser, which now 
> offers private browsing mode. On the iPhone, browser settings are 
> conveniently located from any open tab—no more hopping back to in-app 
> settings just to clear data or change the location of file downloads. There’s 
> even a new option to choose DuckDuckGo, Yandex, Ecosia, or Yahoo as the 
> default search engine instead of Google. (Yay, privacy!)
> 
> 
> Whether it’s cloud storage, network-attached devices, or remote servers, 
> Documents 7 makes file management a snap.
> 
> While Documents has always been a very capable PDF reader, version 7.0 
> introduces an option to turn the app into a full-fledged editor as well. 
> After upgrading to an annual subscription ($50 per year), Documents 7 unlocks 
> a 

Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

[Russ Kiehne]

Likewise, I bought the Apple-Lightning-USB-Camera-Adapter and only one of the 
several flash drives I have work with it.  How do you find out what flash 
drives work with it before you buy one?
Also I couldn’t find how to transfer a .zip file from the flash drive to voice 
dream reader.

From: Jim Fettgather 
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

Hello, I purchased a lightning to USB adapter from Apple, I can connect a USB 
thumb drive to that adapter and it shows up right in the files app on the 
iPhone, and the files can be manipulated in many ways.
Thanks.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

I thought external drive access was only supported for iPad OS and not iOS.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app 
to shame

 

I don’t know if this app does, but the Files app in IOS 13 allows you to do so. 
 

Sent from my iPhone





  On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

   

  Does this app allow you to access a flashdrive?

   

  From: Mary Otten 

  Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:04 AM

  To: VIPhone via ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to 
shame

   

  I wonder if this is accessible.

   

  Documents 7 review: Free iOS file manager puts Apple’s Files app to shame

  Macworld  /  J.R. Bookwalter





  Documents 7 is a free iOS app for reading PDF, EPUB, Word, and Excel 
documents, opening ZIP archives, viewing images, downloading and much more.


  At a Glance

  · Documents 7 
  Learn more 

  on App Store 

  It took Apple nearly a decade to bring proper file management to the iPhone 
and iPad with the arrival of the Files app in iOS 11. Over the same period of 
time, an enterprising third-party developer based in Odessa, Ukraine was busy 
refining its own file manager app, which outshines Apple’s in almost every 
conceivable way.

  Documents 7 is the latest incarnation of the versatile iOS utility that 
started as clever web app ReaddleDocs, named for the up-and-coming startup who 
created it. The mobile equivalent of macOS Finder, this jack-of-all-trades 
allows iPhone and iPad owners to browse, view, and manage files with ease, all 
from an intuitive user interface that puts Apple’s own Files to shame.



  Documents 7 brings the Plus button to iPhone, making it easier for users to 
create and import files from almost anywhere.

  Although there was little to dislike about the look and feel of prior 
releases, Documents 7 adds a fresh coat of paint inspired by the company’s 
recent PDF Expert 7, a robust tool for document editing and annotation. The 
result is a refined UI that makes viewing and organizing files a more organic 
experience, with support for iOS 13’s new Dark Mode and floating keyboard. iPad 
users can also now open more than one Documents window at a time, great for 
side-by-side comparison or to drag and drop content between them.

  Making its way from iPad to iPhone is the Plus button, a convenient one-tap 
popup in the lower right corner which speeds up creation of new folders, text 
and PDF files, scanning new documents, or importing existing files from iCloud 
Drive, Photos, cloud storage providers, or network-attached sources. Naturally, 
there’s also integration with the built-in Files app for seamlessly accessing 
content stored there, as well as opening files saved in existing Locations 
within Documents 7.

  PDF master
  From the beginning, Documents 7 included a built-in web browser, which now 
offers private browsing mode. On the iPhone, browser settings are conveniently 
located from any open tab—no more hopping back to in-app settings just to clear 
data or change the location of file downloads. There’s even a new option to 
choose DuckDuckGo, Yandex, Ecosia, or Yahoo as the default search engine 
instead of Google. (Yay, privacy!)



  Whether it’s cloud storage, network-attached devices, or remote servers, 
Documents 7 makes file management a snap.

  While Documents has always been a very capable PDF reader, version 7.0 
introduces an option to turn the app into a full-fledged editor as well. After 
upgrading to an annual subscription ($50 per year), Documents 7 unlocks a full 
complement of professional tools, allowing users to edit, convert, and reduce 
the size of PDF files.

  If you already own PDF Expert 6, those editing features are available free of 
charge in Documents 7. Unfortunately, three advanced tools recently added to 
PDF Expert 7 do not get shared, so the only way to customize the Favorites 
toolbar or convert and 

How to change the order in which options appear while sharing something on your iPhone

[TaraPrakash]

Dear all. Why is sharing something like a photo, iPhone presents option of apps 
available where you can share The file. In the latest iOS, it starts with the 
contacts frequently contacted. I’ve tried to change it through more option but 
have not been able to do it. I will appreciate your help in this
With gratitude best regards 

Sent from my iPhone

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Hijacking threads [was "Re: SE 2 iPhone fact or fiction?"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

Better yet, just start a new thread so as not to trip up those of us who 
group their messages into threads.



On 1/5/20 6:28 AM, terri...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello all,
Please note how easy it is to change the subject when you change the discussion thread. 
Below is the stated topic that was posted under "Seeing AI"


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

Not sure how this ended up in a thread with subject "Seeing AI", but no, any 
phone released this spring would not be 5G. Rumours are that this fall's new iPhones will 
support it, but as Richard said, we won't know for sure. Anyways, 5G in the mainstream is 
still at least 2 years away for most of us. Especially here in Canada we first have to 
see what the government decides with respect to letting Huawei become part of the 5G 
infrastructure or not.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

When Apple announces the new phone, we will find out if it is 5G, and what it 
will be called, etc.
Up to now, it is all rumor.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

Would that be a 5-G phone?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2020 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

In fact, if an SE 2 phone is released in the next few months which now seems 
quite likely, it is certainly going to still have a home button, but it will be 
a virtual home button like on the iPhon e8 not a mechanical button like on the 
6S or the current SE. This means there is a small indent in the screen which 
feels like the home button, but pressing on it only generates a small amount of 
haptic feedback which again feels a little like pressing an actual button, but 
there is no mechanical component which is subject to wear and tear and of 
course as it's just part of the screen there is no way for this to be a place 
where any moisture could get in.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI?

Tell me what I need to know to work it, please.

Today, I just got an iPhone 11. I think I am going to really like it. I can see 
why they eliminated the Home Button - more screen room. The guy that set up my 
phone said I was right. He doesn't think one will ever be back, even if a SE 
comes out this spring.

Here's my question. How to I use Seeing AI? I got him to download it for me.

Incidentally, for $19.99, I got a wireless charger and am so glad I did.


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SE 2 iPhone fact or fiction?

[territek]

Hello all,
Please note how easy it is to change the subject when you change the discussion 
thread. Below is the stated topic that was posted under "Seeing AI"


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

Not sure how this ended up in a thread with subject "Seeing AI", but no, any 
phone released this spring would not be 5G. Rumours are that this fall's new 
iPhones will support it, but as Richard said, we won't know for sure. Anyways, 
5G in the mainstream is still at least 2 years away for most of us. Especially 
here in Canada we first have to see what the government decides with respect to 
letting Huawei become part of the 5G infrastructure or not.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

When Apple announces the new phone, we will find out if it is 5G, and what it 
will be called, etc.
Up to now, it is all rumor.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

Would that be a 5-G phone?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2020 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI?

In fact, if an SE 2 phone is released in the next few months which now seems 
quite likely, it is certainly going to still have a home button, but it will be 
a virtual home button like on the iPhon e8 not a mechanical button like on the 
6S or the current SE. This means there is a small indent in the screen which 
feels like the home button, but pressing on it only generates a small amount of 
haptic feedback which again feels a little like pressing an actual button, but 
there is no mechanical component which is subject to wear and tear and of 
course as it's just part of the screen there is no way for this to be a place 
where any moisture could get in.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI?

Tell me what I need to know to work it, please. 

Today, I just got an iPhone 11. I think I am going to really like it. I can see 
why they eliminated the Home Button - more screen room. The guy that set up my 
phone said I was right. He doesn't think one will ever be back, even if a SE 
comes out this spring. 

Here's my question. How to I use Seeing AI? I got him to download it for me. 

Incidentally, for $19.99, I got a wireless charger and am so glad I did. 


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Re: Program icons in Messages app

[Christopher Chaltain]

After the last message, and the first flick after the camera button, you 
should see a button that says "apps, visible, double tap to ..." Double 
tap on this button to turn the status from visible to hidden and hide 
those apps you find so annoying.



On 1/4/20 10:57 PM, Bill Gallik wrote:
Frankly, I have no intentions of using any of the apps that appear 
inside the messages app when I am trying to compose a message to a 
chosen recipient. How do I get rid of those very annoying  things!?




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