RE: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here in Canada they cost $169.99 which is a lot less than the Airpods let alone 
the Airpods Pro which in Canada are $319.
And the pass-through feature is one the original Airpods don’t have although 
just like the Earpods they don’t seal off your ears, but compared to the 
Airpods Pro these Jabra earbuds are almost half price.


From: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 5:28 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch


Hello,
I have never gotten consistent switching between my Apple Watch and my iPhone. 
Once my first generation AirPods stopped taking a charge, I decided to try a 
different brand of wireless earbuds. I find the Jabra Elite 65T wireless 
earbuds, work perfectly to switch between the Apple Watch and the iPhone. They 
switch flawlessly, have great bass, and much longer battery life.
They have a different shape entirely, and a little bit bigger, but are much 
more comfortable for me because they have different size silicon gels which you 
can custom fit to your ear.
You can use one earbud at a time, but this only allowed with the right ear, 
because it is the one with the master controls.
Also, when both earbuds are inserted in the ears, they seal quite well, and cut 
out all ambient sound. This is great for listening to music, but not good for 
walking around. There is a way to get around this though, because the Jabra 
Elite 65T wireless earbuds have a pass-through feature, you press the right 
earbud button twice, and the microphone built into the earbud will pick up the 
ambient sound and transmit it into the ear. I’ve never done any experimentation 
with this, but I’m sure that it uses more battery.
I also find the microphones on these earbuds is phenomenal! Dictation, and 
phone call reception is fantastic.
I really like these earbuds, although the charging case is not as clever as 
Apple's. I liked my AirPods too, but my main regret is that they never really 
switched between the Apple Watch and the iPhone consistently, a main 
requirement for any ear bud for me personally,
Chuck
Here is a link:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077ZGRVRX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
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Re: Voiceover accessible VPN client.

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Alan;
I just installed TunnelBear.
I will try it out.
Thanks
Anthony


Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:41 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I like TunnelBear. Read about it here:
> 
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tunnelbear-secure-vpn-wifi/id564842283
> 
> I don't know how it compares pricewise but when I signed up for it, the price 
> seemed competitive. The app is free and accessible but you have to pay for 
> the VPN service.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Smith
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 9:37 PM
> To: 'Marcio' via VIPhone
> Subject: Voiceover accessible VPN client.
> 
> Can anyone recommend an accessible VPN client? Thanks
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RE: Bluetooth keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It does not have as distinct of a click, but as  you said, it’s a good price 
and with Amazon if you unpack carefully and don’t like it you can always send 
it back. I think ultimately it’s one of those things where you have to try it 
because no amount of description helps here completely. I personally would 
probably use one of the wired DAS Keyboard 4 Perofessional if it weren’t for 
the convenience of switching to my iPhone simply by pushing the button, sorry, 
there are 2 buttons, one for USB and one for Bluetooth, not a slider as I first 
said.
This keyboard also has 6 gaming keys vertically on the left, there is a 
noticeable gap between Control, Shift, Caps Lock, Tab and ~, but it take a bit 
of getting used to.
If you get help and use the Logitech G-Hub software you can assign functions to 
these keys, e.g. you could assign Windows Key + M to the top one and pressing 
this then is equivalent to Windows Key + M which means you minimize to the 
desktop, you can also do Alt + F4 to exit applications or even more complicated 
ones, I have one programmed to do Windows Key + Alt + Number Row 5. I have 
Excel in the taskbar in position 5, Windows Key + 5 would always open Excel or 
take me there if it is open, Windows Key + Alt + 5 is the command to bring up 
the jumplist for Excel, I can then arrow down through a list of my recently 
used workbooks and I use this feature a lot.
You could of course also program them so they do nothing so if you accidently 
touch one nothing at all happens.


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard

Sieghard,

I'm interested in the Logitech G613 Lightspeed Wireless mechanical gaming 
keyboard and Amazon is selling it currently for USD $69.99 which seems a good 
price. I'll confess that I'm a big fan of old-school keyboards which have 
distinctive mechanical click feedback when pressing the keys and I'm still 
using an old IBM PC AT keyboard that I snagged from the trash where I used to 
work. This keyboard is a tank and was obviously over-spec'ed but I offer this 
up so you'll know the type of keyboard I'm used to using.

I know you commented on the switches of this Logitech not being as nice as the 
other expensive keyboard you mentioned but I'm curious as to your opinion of 
its mechanical click feedback. I welcome any additional comments you could 
share about it before I order one.

Thanks in advance.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 1:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard

If you want a big full-size keyboard for both computer and iPhone I highly 
recommend the Logitech G613 Lightspeed Wireless mechanical gaming keyboard.
It has no backlighting, it uses a USB dongle for connectivity to the PC which 
has a 1 millisecond latency and you can pair it to your phone via Bluetooth 
which is also super responsive. Switching is done via a slider switch and it’s 
virtually instant.
I use this keyboard as my main office keyboard, it is big and heavy and not 
something you would want to travel with and my only complaint is that it uses 
these Japanese switches called Roma-G, I wish it used Cherry MX Blue switches 
which I have on my wired keyboards from the company “Das Keyboard”, I have the 
model called Professional 4 and they are amazing, but also expensive.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard

Seeing as I've spent a small fortune in search of a satisfactory keyboard, I 
thought I ought to pipe up here. I have a smaller keyboard from Microsoft 
called the Microsoft Universal Mobile keyboard. It's compact and fairly rugged 
with a plastic rubber coated lid which doubles as a stand. You need to type in 
a code when pairing but once that's done, there's realy no lag. I don't know if 
it's still available for sale so you might have to chase that one with Ebay or 
something.

The keyboard I'm typing on now is cheeper because it's a 60% mechanical 
keyboard from Keymove. They've made quite a splash in mechanical keyboard 
circles recently. I got mine for $50 Canadian on Amazon. You can choose the 
switch type you want. I like red linear switches. Other types have extra 
audible clicks and add more feel to typing. It only has 61 keys and you don't 
get multimedia controls. You do get an actual physical on/off switch on the 
bottom. The key for slash and question mark is tucked in the corner formed by 
the bottom and right arrows which takes time to get used to. There's no way 
that I've discovered to easly turn off the rgb 

Re: is apple working to fix the remaining bugs in iOS 13?

[Devin Prater]

We don’t know. Apple does not tell us.

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 9:34 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
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> 
> hi,
> Does anybody know if Apple is continuing to work on removing the remaining 
> bugs in iOS 13? It’s been more than four months, and it seems as if there has 
> not been a meaningful update in at least a month.
> I’m just curious if we can expect some further improvements, or if we will 
> just have to wait for iOS 14.
> 
> Thanks in advance, Keith
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RE: Voiceover accessible VPN client.

[Alan Lemly]

I like TunnelBear. Read about it here:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tunnelbear-secure-vpn-wifi/id564842283

I don't know how it compares pricewise but when I signed up for it, the price 
seemed competitive. The app is free and accessible but you have to pay for the 
VPN service.

Alan Lemly

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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 9:37 PM
To: 'Marcio' via VIPhone
Subject: Voiceover accessible VPN client.

Can anyone recommend an accessible VPN client? Thanks   

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RE: What's App

[Nicki Keck]

OH wow!  Thanks, Steve.  I thought that was just an IOS 13 bug we had to live 
with.  I am referring to the second tip you mentioned.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's App

Here are two tips that will make using WhatsApp nicer for you if you're a 
VoiceOver screenreader user (as opposed to a VoiceOver magnification user).


1. On the Settings tab, go to Notifications, and turn off in-app notifications. 
This will stop your phone from buzzing, beeping, and speaking while you're 
using the application.


2. In iOS Settings, go to Accessibility, VoiceOver, then turn off the item that 
automatically describes images. This will stop WhatsApp saying something every 
time a new voice message plays.


On 1/23/2020 5:51 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone wrote:
> Update.
> I thought I was signed in but I wasn't. Once I signed in the download started 
> just fine.
> I haven't paid much attention to posts about What's App since I wasn't using 
> it, but maybe I should have read those posts! I'll see soon enough.
>
> Deidre

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RE: WhatsApp [was "Re: Transferring content to an iPad"]

[Nicki Keck]

Yes, it is tied to the mobile number.  The way it works with that app I 
mentioned in my previous message is that you have to use your phone to scan the 
QR code, similar to what you do if you want to use the Windows app for Whatsapp.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WhatsApp [was "Re: Transferring content to an iPad"]

WhatsApp is tied to a mobile number, a least I thought it was, I never knew 
that it worked on an iPad.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WhatsApp [was "Re: Transferring content to an iPad"]

WhatsApp works over wifi or cellular data. It doesn't use your carriers SMS or 
phone calls. I don't know about the iPad.


On 1/23/20 7:47 PM, 'jan howells' via VIPhone wrote:
> Are you able to use What's App with wifi? Or is it just used with 
> data? Does it have to be on a phone, or can it be on an iPad?
>
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RE: WhatsApp [was "Re: Transferring content to an iPad"]

[Nicki Keck]

You can't use Whatsapp on an iPad.  They do have an app that supposedly you can 
use called WhatspadChat but I didn't find it very accessible and it's made by a 
third party.

-Original Message-
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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 11:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WhatsApp [was "Re: Transferring content to an iPad"]

WhatsApp works over wifi or cellular data. It doesn't use your carriers SMS or 
phone calls. I don't know about the iPad.


On 1/23/20 7:47 PM, 'jan howells' via VIPhone wrote:
> Are you able to use What's App with wifi? Or is it just used with 
> data? Does it have to be on a phone, or can it be on an iPad?
>
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Re: is apple working to fix the remaining bugs in iOS 13?

[Holly]

Hi Keith:

I am hoping that there will be another update soon.  I have emailed Apple 
Accessibility about the bug where voice over talks at the same time as Siri. 
Very annoying and you cannot hear what either is saying.


Fingers crossed that it will be fixed soon.  Haven't heard anything about 
another update coming soon though.  Maybe someone else can shed more light 
on the issues. 


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Voiceover accessible VPN client.

[Larry Smith]

Can anyone recommend an accessible VPN client? Thanks   

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is apple working to fix the remaining bugs in iOS 13?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,
Does anybody know if Apple is continuing to work on removing the remaining bugs 
in iOS 13? It’s been more than four months, and it seems as if there has not 
been a meaningful update in at least a month.
I’m just curious if we can expect some further improvements, or if we will just 
have to wait for iOS 14.

Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: Transferring content to an iPad

[Barbara Stahl]

Hi everyone. 
I'm not sure if my previous message went through so I am resending it just to 
be sure. 
If it did actually go through, sorry for the repeat.
My previous message said that I we like to transfer pictures and music on to my 
ipad. 
Do you know of any accessible ways to do this? 

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
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> What type of files do you want to transfer to your ipad?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Barbara Stahl
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> Hi everyone!!
> I am a new member to the list. I have an ipad question.
> I want to transfer content from my computer and or iphone to my ipad. What's 
> the most accessible and the easiest way to do this? IF possible I would like 
> to avoid using itunes.
> So any ideas?
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Re: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

[Anthony Vece]

Wow!
Thanks

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 11!! Pro!

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
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> 
> Hello,
> Yes, when you take the earbuds out of the case and put them in your ears, 
> they will connect to any device that you have paired at the same time, and 
> when you put them back into the case they turn off and start charging.
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2020, at 6:44 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>> H
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Re: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

[Chuck Dean]

Hello,
Yes, when you take the earbuds out of the case and put them in your ears, they 
will connect to any device that you have paired at the same time, and when you 
put them back into the case they turn off and start charging.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 6:44 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> H

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Re: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Chuck;
When you remove the AirPods from your ears and put them into the case I’m 
talking about the elite AirPods do they automatically turn off?
Thanks in advance
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 11!! Pro!

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 8:28 PM, 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone 
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> 
> 
> Hello,
> I have never gotten consistent switching between my Apple Watch and my 
> iPhone. Once my first generation AirPods stopped taking a charge, I decided 
> to try a different brand of wireless earbuds. I find the Jabra Elite 65T 
> wireless earbuds, work perfectly to switch between the Apple Watch and the 
> iPhone. They switch flawlessly, have great bass, and much longer battery life.
> They have a different shape entirely, and a little bit bigger, but are much 
> more comfortable for me because they have different size silicon gels which 
> you can custom fit to your ear.
> You can use one earbud at a time, but this only allowed with the right ear, 
> because it is the one with the master controls.
> Also, when both earbuds are inserted in the ears, they seal quite well, and 
> cut out all ambient sound. This is great for listening to music, but not good 
> for walking around. There is a way to get around this though, because the 
> Jabra Elite 65T wireless earbuds have a pass-through feature, you press the 
> right earbud button twice, and the microphone built into the earbud will pick 
> up the ambient sound and transmit it into the ear. I’ve never done any 
> experimentation with this, but I’m sure that it uses more battery.
> I also find the microphones on these earbuds is phenomenal! Dictation, and 
> phone call reception is fantastic.
> I really like these earbuds, although the charging case is not as clever as 
> Apple's. I liked my AirPods too, but my main regret is that they never really 
> switched between the Apple Watch and the iPhone consistently, a main 
> requirement for any ear bud for me personally,
> Chuck 
> Here is a link:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077ZGRVRX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
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Re: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

['Chuck Dean' via VIPhone]

Hello,
I have never gotten consistent switching between my Apple Watch and my 
iPhone. Once my first generation AirPods stopped taking a charge, I decided 
to try a different brand of wireless earbuds. I find the Jabra Elite 65T 
wireless earbuds, work perfectly to switch between the Apple Watch and the 
iPhone. They switch flawlessly, have great bass, and much longer battery 
life.
They have a different shape entirely, and a little bit bigger, but are much 
more comfortable for me because they have different size silicon gels which 
you can custom fit to your ear.
You can use one earbud at a time, but this only allowed with the right ear, 
because it is the one with the master controls.
Also, when both earbuds are inserted in the ears, they seal quite well, and 
cut out all ambient sound. This is great for listening to music, but not 
good for walking around. There is a way to get around this though, because 
the Jabra Elite 65T wireless earbuds have a pass-through feature, you press 
the right earbud button twice, and the microphone built into the earbud 
will pick up the ambient sound and transmit it into the ear. I’ve never 
done any experimentation with this, but I’m sure that it uses more battery.
I also find the microphones on these earbuds is phenomenal! Dictation, and 
phone call reception is fantastic.
I really like these earbuds, although the charging case is not as clever as 
Apple's. I liked my AirPods too, but my main regret is that they never 
really switched between the Apple Watch and the iPhone consistently, a main 
requirement for any ear bud for me personally,
Chuck 
Here is a link:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077ZGRVRX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

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RE: Bluetooth keyboard

[Alan Lemly]

Sieghard,

 

I'm interested in the Logitech G613 Lightspeed Wireless mechanical gaming 
keyboard and Amazon is selling it currently for USD $69.99 which seems a good 
price. I'll confess that I'm a big fan of old-school keyboards which have 
distinctive mechanical click feedback when pressing the keys and I'm still 
using an old IBM PC AT keyboard that I snagged from the trash where I used to 
work. This keyboard is a tank and was obviously over-spec'ed but I offer this 
up so you'll know the type of keyboard I'm used to using.

 

I know you commented on the switches of this Logitech not being as nice as the 
other expensive keyboard you mentioned but I'm curious as to your opinion of 
its mechanical click feedback. I welcome any additional comments you could 
share about it before I order one.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 1:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard

 

If you want a big full-size keyboard for both computer and iPhone I highly 
recommend the Logitech G613 Lightspeed Wireless mechanical gaming keyboard.

It has no backlighting, it uses a USB dongle for connectivity to the PC which 
has a 1 millisecond latency and you can pair it to your phone via Bluetooth 
which is also super responsive. Switching is done via a slider switch and it’s 
virtually instant.

I use this keyboard as my main office keyboard, it is big and heavy and not 
something you would want to travel with and my only complaint is that it uses 
these Japanese switches called Roma-G, I wish it used Cherry MX Blue switches 
which I have on my wired keyboards from the company “Das Keyboard”, I have the 
model called Professional 4 and they are amazing, but also expensive.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard

 

Seeing as I've spent a small fortune in search of a satisfactory keyboard, I 
thought I ought to pipe up here. I have a smaller keyboard from Microsoft 
called the Microsoft Universal Mobile keyboard. It's compact and fairly rugged 
with a plastic rubber coated lid which doubles as a stand. You need to type in 
a code when pairing but once that's done, there's realy no lag. I don't know if 
it's still available for sale so you might have to chase that one with Ebay or 
something.

 

The keyboard I'm typing on now is cheeper because it's a 60% mechanical 
keyboard from Keymove. They've made quite a splash in mechanical keyboard 
circles recently. I got mine for $50 Canadian on Amazon. You can choose the 
switch type you want. I like red linear switches. Other types have extra 
audible clicks and add more feel to typing. It only has 61 keys and you don't 
get multimedia controls. You do get an actual physical on/off switch on the 
bottom. The key for slash and question mark is tucked in the corner formed by 
the bottom and right arrows which takes time to get used to. There's no way 
that I've discovered to easly turn off the rgb lighting. You don't have to 
enter a number code when you pair it. The advantages are that it uses 
Bluetooth4 and reports the status of your battery to the battery widget in the 
Today view of your iOS device. Nice to be able to check the battery level. 
There's absolutely zero lag to contend with and the board doesn't feel cramped. 
It is somewhat noisy to type on so I only use it at home.

 

I've just backed a Keychron K6 mechanical keyboard on Kickstarter. It has 
physical switches to change between wired, Bluetooth and off as well as one to 
switch between devices. It uses Bluetooth 3 but given the stellar reviews of 
their prior keyboards, I don't expect much lag. I went with red optical 
switches which should help deal with any lag if I'm wrong. This keyboard will 
also give me multimedia functions despite being a 65% keyboard. I'll also have 
home and end keys.

 

Another keyboard I've tried was from Anker. It's quiet and compact. It also has 
multimedia keys. Doesn't report its battery level and unfortunately suffers 
from a smigion of lag. Just enough to be quite annoying at times. Otherwise, 
it's a really nice design for a travelling keyboard.

 

Earlier, I backed a keyboard from Hexgears called the X1. Again, wonderful 
build quality and a pleasure to type on but absolutely horrid Bluetooth 
connectivity. I use it on my computer now but that one has to pretty much go in 
the loses column.

 

It's very hard to get something which checks all the boxes. I have fairly high 
hopes for the Keychron K6 but as you can see, I've been wrong before. I'll have 
to wait quite a while before I think of taking another crack at that illusive 
perfect Bluetooth keyboard. It seems to be my holy grail. I suppose, if it 
injures my fingers to type on one, that could well change to being my Moby 
Dick. I can 

RE: What's App

[Anne West]

H! I have Whatsapp on my iPhone 8 and downloaded it from the app store. I 
don't remember a Whatsapp Messenger. The Whatsapp I have can be used world wide 
but a person has to be in your iPhone contacts to make the contact. There is an 
option to send a voice message on my app.

Anne

-Original Message-
From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 17:41
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What's App

Hello all
A friend has been pesterung ne to use What's App rather than text messaging.
He wants to hear my voice not read the gibberish I sometimes send him when the 
dictation is shoddy and I haven't taken the time to correct it.
I first did a search for What's App and saw a few listings. Should I 
assume that the App I want is called What's App Messenger?
When I hit on the "redownload" button,  it said I was in the UK store 
and it was not available for download to my phone and I needed to get it from 
the U.S. store.
How do I get back to that? I looked something up the other day that was 
only available in the UK which must be why I am stuck there. I only see an ok 
button nothing more.
I had What's App on my phone ages ago but for whatever reason did not 
stick with it.

Deidre
 

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Re: iOS certification?

[John Panarese]

   Not specifically for VoiceOver.
. 

Take Care

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> On Jan 24, 2020, at 2:34 PM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
> Is there any certification for voiceover ofr Accessibility of iPhone iPad and 
> I touch? 
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2020, at 9:57 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>    There is an Apple Certified Support Professional certification for iOS. 
>> However, I don’t know how accessible it is because I only deal with 
>> accessibility of the Mac side at the moment.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Adam Morris >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know of any certificates from Apple or elsewhere that are 
>>> accessible for blind people to be certified in iOS?
>>> 
>>> I heard of something Apple offer but from my understanding you have to 
>>> demonstrate physical repairs to an iPhone.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: iOS certification?

[TaraPrakash]

Is there any certification for voiceover ofr Accessibility of iPhone iPad and I 
touch? 
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 9:57 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
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>    There is an Apple Certified Support Professional certification for iOS. 
> However, I don’t know how accessible it is because I only deal with 
> accessibility of the Mac side at the moment.
> 
> 
> Take Care
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> 
>> On Jan 24, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Adam Morris  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Does anyone know of any certificates from Apple or elsewhere that are 
>> accessible for blind people to be certified in iOS?
>> 
>> I heard of something Apple offer but from my understanding you have to 
>> demonstrate physical repairs to an iPhone.
>> 
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Re: Transferring content to an iPad

[Barbara Stahl]

Pictures and maybe some music

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> What type of files do you want to transfer to your ipad?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Barbara Stahl
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Re: Transferring content to an iPad

[Barbara Stahl]

What about pictures? 

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 2:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> What kind of content?
> If ringtones then iTunes is your best option, same goes for music as far as I 
> know, it's been so long that I synced music to my phone now that we have 
> Apple Music and can basically play anything we want at any time by streaming 
> or downloading it, that I don't know if anything has changed here, but I 
> doubt it.
> There is also Waltr2 and iMazing, both are applications you have to buy and 
> which some claim can replace iTunes to transfer music and ringtones.
> 
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> -Original Message-
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Re: iOS certification?

[John Panarese]

   There is an Apple Certified Support Professional certification for iOS. 
However, I don’t know how accessible it is because I only deal with 
accessibility of the Mac side at the moment.


Take Care

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> On Jan 24, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Adam Morris  wrote:
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> 
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> 
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Re: Transferring content to an iPad

[Russ Kiehne]

What type of files do you want to transfer to your ipad?

-Original Message- 
From: Barbara Stahl

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 4:01 PM
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Hi everyone!!
I am a new member to the list. I have an ipad question.
I want to transfer content from my computer and or iphone to my ipad. What's 
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RE: What's App

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Thanks Steve. I'm only using What's App in the Chat mode. When sending voice 
messages I don't hear anything except at the start of recording when you can 
hear voice over say some things. I will turn off in app and see if that goes 
away. I'm not hearing anything else, just the ping when I start recording and 
the ping when I lift my finger. It's powerful to hear the person's voice live 
and has a whole other feel to it than when on a live phone call. It accentuates 
the person like a recording you might want to preserve. I don't save things on 
my phone though, so most exchanges get deleted nearly immediately.

Deidre
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's App

Here are two tips that will make using WhatsApp nicer for you if you're 
a VoiceOver screenreader user (as opposed to a VoiceOver magnification 
user).


1. On the Settings tab, go to Notifications, and turn off in-app 
notifications. This will stop your phone from buzzing, beeping, and 
speaking while you're using the application.


2. In iOS Settings, go to Accessibility, VoiceOver, then turn off the 
item that automatically describes images. This will stop WhatsApp saying 
something every time a new voice message plays.


On 1/23/2020 5:51 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone wrote:
> Update.
> I thought I was signed in but I wasn't. Once I signed in the download started 
> just fine.
> I haven't paid much attention to posts about What's App since I wasn't using 
> it, but maybe I should have read those posts! I'll see soon enough.
>
> Deidre

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RE: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

[Robin]

In Apple's Defense, it's Mostlikely a  SoftwareGlitch with iOS & 
WatchOS, as Some,Who own  Both Apple's iPhone & AppleWatch  have 
succeeded in doin' What I'm askin'

I'm hopin' "This Glitch" gets  fixed
At 11:02 PM 1/23/2020, you wrote:
Any good Bluetooth headset with multi-point will do this perfectly, 
one example is the voyager Edge single earpiece. If connected to 
both my iPhone and my Apple Watch I can use it with my iPhone and if 
I touch my Apple Watch it instantly switches to the watch and back 
to the phone within a second or two after the watch goes to sleep.
I really don't understand why Apple's own product which costs twice 
as much as most others and is supposed to be the future of wireless 
still can't do this.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Peter Logan

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

Yes, that is possible ..  Sometimes getting it to switch from your 
phone over is a little tricky ..


Why not use the taptic time option

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 11:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

Question:
Is it Possible to Have "The Audio" from Apple's AppleWatch  Go 
Through  its Wireless EarBuds, AirPods & AirPod PROs? For Privacy 
Reasons I'm NOT Referrin'To  AirPlay, which allows Users of Apple's 
AppleWatch to Stream-Play Audio-Music  through Their  Wireless

EarBuds: AirPod PROs & AirPods

What I'm askin' is For "The Ability" to simply  Check "The Time"
discreetly  on an AppleWatch usin' the AirPods???

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RE: Sharing A Book

[Jim Fettgather]

This may not be good news, as most books from the iBooks store are copy 
protected with DRM when you purchase them, making it not possible to share them.
I don't think there is a way to do this, even though the book is offered for 
free right now.
Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 7:47 PM
To: vi-phone list 
Subject: Sharing A Book

Hi,
Some years ago I decided to learn about Macs, so I went to the iBooks store and 
bought Tim Snipfen’s book entitled Mastering The Macintosh With VoiceOver.
The book is still on my iPhone and I refer to it from time to time. Anyway, I 
just started working with a new student and told her about the book. We went 
looking for it and it doesn’t seem to be available anymore. While doing a 
Google search for it, I found an article dated some time in 2016 which said 
that the book was being offered for free in the iBooks store. The article had a 
link to the book, but the link is of no use.
Since the book is “out of print” and was at one time being offered for free, 
would it be legal to give a copy of the book to my student or anyone else who 
might be interested? If so, how can I do that? I tried saving it to Voice Dream 
Reader and it didn’t show up in Voice Dream Reader’s library. I went into the 
Books app’s library and attempted to share it with my student via AirDrop. No 
go. 
Btw, neither Bookshare nor Bard have it. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Tom

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Re: What's App

[Steve Matzura]

Here are two tips that will make using WhatsApp nicer for you if you're 
a VoiceOver screenreader user (as opposed to a VoiceOver magnification 
user).



1. On the Settings tab, go to Notifications, and turn off in-app 
notifications. This will stop your phone from buzzing, beeping, and 
speaking while you're using the application.



2. In iOS Settings, go to Accessibility, VoiceOver, then turn off the 
item that automatically describes images. This will stop WhatsApp saying 
something every time a new voice message plays.



On 1/23/2020 5:51 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone wrote:

Update.
I thought I was signed in but I wasn't. Once I signed in the download started 
just fine.
I haven't paid much attention to posts about What's App since I wasn't using 
it, but maybe I should have read those posts! I'll see soon enough.

Deidre


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Re: Transferring content to an iPad

['jan howells' via VIPhone]

I tried to download WhatsApp on my iPad, and it would not 
download.  I have an iPad Mini by do.  Thank you for explaining 
the features.  I gather that you can speak your text messages?


Jan

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iOS certification?

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,

Does anyone know of any certificates from Apple or elsewhere that are 
accessible for blind people to be certified in iOS?


I heard of something Apple offer but from my understanding you have to 
demonstrate physical repairs to an iPhone.


Thanks in advance.



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RE: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

[Simon A Fogarty]

Dude,

Easy answer to that one,

Apple product,

Plantronics have things switched on.

I'm using my voyager 5200 to listen to my work computer which is windows 
running jaws,

 So much easier than using wired headphones.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 24 January 2020 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

Any good Bluetooth headset with multi-point will do this perfectly, one example 
is the voyager Edge single earpiece. If connected to both my iPhone and my 
Apple Watch I can use it with my iPhone and if I touch my Apple Watch it 
instantly switches to the watch and back to the phone within a second or two 
after the watch goes to sleep.
I really don't understand why Apple's own product which costs twice as much as 
most others and is supposed to be the future of wireless still can't do this.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

Yes, that is possible ..  Sometimes getting it to switch from your phone over 
is a little tricky ..

Why not use the taptic time option 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 11:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

Question:
Is it Possible to Have "The Audio" from Apple's AppleWatch  Go Through  its 
Wireless EarBuds, AirPods & AirPod PROs? For Privacy Reasons I'm NOT 
Referrin'To  AirPlay, which allows Users of Apple's AppleWatch to Stream-Play 
Audio-Music  through Their  Wireless
EarBuds: AirPod PROs & AirPods

What I'm askin' is For "The Ability" to simply  Check "The Time" 
discreetly  on an AppleWatch usin' the AirPods???

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RE: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi,

I've never been able to get this working but that is due to it being a known 
non working feature of the apple watch, pods and other related devices.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, 24 January 2020 2:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch

Thanx, Simon! I did have it Work when I  1st purchased My initial  AppleWatch 
Series5, but every since I  Replaced that 1 with the  MobileVersion of the Same 
AppleWatch, I haven't had any success with it. I  have tried Several Times to 
Pair  the Watch again & even tried  the SetUp again, but to No Avail

Here's to Hopin' that a SoftwareUpdate resolves this issue in the Future 
(NearFuture) At 01:22 AM 1/23/2020, you wrote:
>Yeah well that's an interesting question,
>
>Apple have for a few years now been trying to get seamless switching 
>between devices through the airpods etc.
>
>  But I find that it only sometimes works, May be once a month by 
>mistake.
>
>So it is being looked at / worked on.
>
>The idea is that your pods connect to your phone and all your other 
>related apple products through your apple id account and then when you 
>start say working on your watch the pods should pick that vo voice up, 
>Then if you stop that and start on your ipad pro it should come through 
>the pods,
>
>I've had it work a number of times,which is great but it's not constant.
>
>Give it a try and see what you think.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>Robin
>Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2020 5:45 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Apple's AirPods-AirPod PROs & AppleWatch
>
>Question:
>Is it Possible to Have "The Audio" from Apple's AppleWatch  Go Through  
>its Wireless EarBuds, AirPods & AirPod PROs? For Privacy Reasons I'm 
>NOT Referrin'To  AirPlay, which allows Users of Apple's AppleWatch to 
>Stream-Play Audio-Music  through Their  Wireless
>EarBuds: AirPod PROs & AirPods
>
>What I'm askin' is For "The Ability" to simply  Check "The Time"
>discreetly  on an AppleWatch usin' the AirPods???
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