Re: Question About the New Classic Shell Phone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I have had very good support from Verizon.  When I was deciding which
phone plan to go with, once I got my iPhone 8, the rep went all
available plans and he gave me what he thought what would be the best
plan for me once I told him how much I could afford.  I also get great
coverage as well with very few dropped calls.

On 6/14/20, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> I understand about not wanting to make payments for awhile. Just got through
> making payments on my iPad pro in May and my iPhone in January. Just wanted
> to point out one more thing that the Verizon rep said and that is you don't
> get sometimes good support from other carriers or people willing to help
> like you do with Verizon and coverage is another thing she pointed out to me
> too and those were pretty much the deciding factors for me.
> She told me this when I said I thought Verizon was a little more expensive
> than other carriers.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 14, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Anne West  wrote:
>>
>> Way to go Shirley!
>>
>> My opinion is that it's best to buy a phone from the carrier because it's
>> set up with the sim card and stock apps. I know Verizon is helpful with
>> set up procedures as I also am on Verizon.
>>
>> The SE is looming I think. However, I would like to wait until the new
>> iPhones come out in the fall because there will be plenty of sales for
>> sure. I just finished paying for my iPhone 8 and would like to stay away
>> from payments for a while.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Shirley Baker
>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 19:11
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Question About the New Classic Shell Phone
>>
>> Does anyone know just out of curiosity, if you can play books from
>> Audible.com or Bard using this particular phone? Not that I’m going to get
>> one but was wondering. I have decided to get the SE 20 phone on Black
>> Friday from Verizon. In  fact, spoke to a lady Thursday who used to be a
>> Verizon rep and we were talking about the different phone stores so I have
>> decided to stay with Verizon, and by the way she told me Verizon does not
>> lock phones should you decide to go with another company.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Question About the New Classic Shell Phone

[Shirley Baker]

I understand about not wanting to make payments for awhile. Just got through 
making payments on my iPad pro in May and my iPhone in January. Just wanted to 
point out one more thing that the Verizon rep said and that is you don't get 
sometimes good support from other carriers or people willing to help like you 
do with Verizon and coverage is another thing she pointed out to me too and 
those were pretty much the deciding factors for me.
She told me this when I said I thought Verizon was a little more expensive than 
other carriers.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Anne West  wrote:
> 
> Way to go Shirley!
> 
> My opinion is that it's best to buy a phone from the carrier because it's set 
> up with the sim card and stock apps. I know Verizon is helpful with set up 
> procedures as I also am on Verizon.
> 
> The SE is looming I think. However, I would like to wait until the new 
> iPhones come out in the fall because there will be plenty of sales for sure. 
> I just finished paying for my iPhone 8 and would like to stay away from 
> payments for a while.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 19:11
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question About the New Classic Shell Phone
> 
> Does anyone know just out of curiosity, if you can play books from 
> Audible.com or Bard using this particular phone? Not that I’m going to get 
> one but was wondering. I have decided to get the SE 20 phone on Black Friday 
> from Verizon. In  fact, spoke to a lady Thursday who used to be a Verizon rep 
> and we were talking about the different phone stores so I have decided to 
> stay with Verizon, and by the way she told me Verizon does not lock phones 
> should you decide to go with another company.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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RE: Question About the New Classic Shell Phone

[Anne West]

Way to go Shirley!

My opinion is that it's best to buy a phone from the carrier because it's set 
up with the sim card and stock apps. I know Verizon is helpful with set up 
procedures as I also am on Verizon.

The SE is looming I think. However, I would like to wait until the new iPhones 
come out in the fall because there will be plenty of sales for sure. I just 
finished paying for my iPhone 8 and would like to stay away from payments for a 
while.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 19:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question About the New Classic Shell Phone

Does anyone know just out of curiosity, if you can play books from Audible.com 
or Bard using this particular phone? Not that I’m going to get one but was 
wondering. I have decided to get the SE 20 phone on Black Friday from Verizon. 
In  fact, spoke to a lady Thursday who used to be a Verizon rep and we were 
talking about the different phone stores so I have decided to stay with 
Verizon, and by the way she told me Verizon does not lock phones should you 
decide to go with another company.

Sent from my iPad

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RE: How to add a book from voice dream reader to drop box?

[chaltain]

Although no fan of iTunes, Russ isn't the only one who's used it for file 
sharing. I don't use it for file sharing anymore since I have so many other 
options, like Apple Music and One Drive.

Although it has a unique interface, I find it accessible. I always thought it 
was interesting that blind people would extol the benefits of Winamp, which 
also has a very unique interface, but bash iTunes.

Although I'm not in a position anymore to explain to someone how to use iTunes 
for file sharing, I hope someone is able to walk you through it, but I wonder 
if it's worth their time since you've already decided that iTunes is a piece of 
inaccessible crap.

--
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Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 8:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to add a book from voice dream reader to drop box?
> 
> I have no idea how to use such a program.  I think Itunes is a piece of crap. 
>  It
> isn't that accessible with a screen reader.  I don't know of anyone besides
> yourself who uses iTunes file sharing.  How does it work?
> 
> On 6/14/20, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> > That is a case for using itunes file sharing to transfer large
> > files into voice dream reader.  Many of my zip files are very large.
> > They are old time radio shows.
> >
> > From: Richard Turner
> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:07 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: How to add a book from voice dream reader to drop box?
> >
> > That is a massive file to try to download.
> > I hope you do not have Cloud Sync enabled, because you should never
> > have large files if you want Cloud sync to work.
> > And, dealing with that large of a file in any app is going to be
> > challenging.
> > You really should ask Winston Chen directly: wins...@voicedream.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard
> > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
> > pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
> > ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
> > regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
> > extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
> >
> >
> >   On Jun 13, 2020, at 5:16 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >   On this topic.  I'm trying to download a 3.4 gig zip file into voice
> >   dream reader from dropbox.  It isn't working to well.  It almost looks
> >   like after a certain percentage the file kind of goes back to 0% and
> >   tried to redownload again.
> >
> >   On 6/13/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> >
> > I do not think you can copy a book from Voice Dream to Dropbox.
> >
> > You can from Dropbox, to Voice Dream.
> >
> > I'm Could you say more exactly what you are wanting to do?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he
> > must pass
> >
> > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
> > ancient
> >
> > hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
> > not
> >
> > granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending
> > it.)" - Edward
> >
> > Herbert
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 13, 2020, at 12:46 AM, Jan Stirbens  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there a way to add a book from voice dream reader to drop box?
> > I am
> >
> > using iPhone XR, the latest version, and the latest version of
> > voice dream
> >
> > reader.
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jan
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Re: Pronunciation of a word

[Richard Turner]

However, in the case of my old hardware synth it was not possible to change it.
Fortunately, my next one had way more flexibility.
And, today, in the case of the Allison voice on iPhones, it will always 
mispronounce the word "peace" as peas no matter how you spell it in the 
pronunciation dictionary.
And, before anyone asks, I do not remember the name of the hardware synth.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 14, 2020, at 12:52 PM, "chalt...@gmail.com"  wrote:


I’m not sure this was true for all synthesizers, although I think it was 
possible with multiple brands, but I remember with my Accent SA, I could 
download a pronunciation dictionary to the synthesizer plus I could change 
configuration settings like expanding abbreviations. Plus for quite a while 
you’ve been able to change a pronunciation of a word in your screen reader 
which changes the word that get sent to the synthesizer. This works the same 
way whether your synthesizer is a software or a hardware speech synthesizer.

--
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Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word

Back in the day, it was actually the external synthesizer not the software, so 
nothing could be done.
That was also on MS-DOS, so things were a little different then.
It was entertaining while not helpful, grin.
Later,



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 14, 2020, at 10:03 AM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
 hehehehe Oh, man, that's sad and funny at the same time. Sad that the creator 
of the screenreader would make that decision for you, but funny, too. I've used 
screen readers for over twenty years, and never found one yet that I couldn't 
teach to say things the way I wished. Well, this is a first, unfortunately.

Karen
At 09:50 AM 6/14/2020, you wrote:

Some voices will not change their pronunciation no matter what you do because 
it is hardwired into that voice.
So, you have a choice: live with it, or find a voice that you can tolerate that 
pronounces the words the way you want to hear them.
Remembering that some words are probably still not going to be the way you are 
used to.
That has been the case in my 35 plus years of dealing with synthesized speech.
This is also true with hardware external synthesizers with computers.

My first speech synthesizer was hard wired to say "sugar" whenever the letters 
s h i t appeared alone or in a word.
One of my favorite guitarists is a man named Kazuhito Yamashita.
I did not know his name wasn't Yama-sugar-da for a very long time.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,†and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 14, 2020, at 9:37 AM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

I believe I've tried all that. Have no idea what to do next, however. thanks.

Karen
At 12:21 AM 6/14/2020, you wrote:

I don't see that this is an apple issue rather than a voice and language 
related issue,

I think personally that you need to set the dictionary for voiceover to say the 
word pease correctly by setting the dictionary to use a word that may not be 
correctly spelt but makes the word sound correct.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word

It seems to me that Apple fixes one thing, only to mess up something else.  I 
wish they would get stuff right.  I'm not saying they have anything to do with 
pronunciations but if they did, they need to fix it.

Shirley

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word

I can understand that words are mispronounced, but when one cannot even go in 
and correct the pronunciation, there is something wrong.

Karen
At 12:53 PM 6/13/2020, you wrote:
>It's the 

RE: problum trying to ancer a vidio call on what'sapp

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I'd try it with the phone locked, often much easier to answer from th elock 
screen.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joy Cyr
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 12:25 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Re: problum trying to ancer a vidio call on what'sapp

In my case the phone was unlocked (I almost never do lock it) and it was tried 
with both the app closed and open.  These calls were always prearranged  ,I was 
waiting for them so while there were other apps open in the background I wasn't 
doing anything on the phone at the time.

Joy

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RE: Pronunciation of a word

[chaltain]

I’m not sure this was true for all synthesizers, although I think it was 
possible with multiple brands, but I remember with my Accent SA, I could 
download a pronunciation dictionary to the synthesizer plus I could change 
configuration settings like expanding abbreviations. Plus for quite a while 
you’ve been able to change a pronunciation of a word in your screen reader 
which changes the word that get sent to the synthesizer. This works the same 
way whether your synthesizer is a software or a hardware speech synthesizer.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word

 

Back in the day, it was actually the external synthesizer not the software, so 
nothing could be done. 

That was also on MS-DOS, so things were a little different then.

It was entertaining while not helpful, grin.

Later,

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Jun 14, 2020, at 10:03 AM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 hehehehe Oh, man, that's sad and funny at the same time. Sad that the creator 
of the screenreader would make that decision for you, but funny, too. I've used 
screen readers for over twenty years, and never found one yet that I couldn't 
teach to say things the way I wished. Well, this is a first, unfortunately. 

Karen
At 09:50 AM 6/14/2020, you wrote:



Some voices will not change their pronunciation no matter what you do because 
it is hardwired into that voice. 
So, you have a choice: live with it, or find a voice that you can tolerate that 
pronounces the words the way you want to hear them.
Remembering that some words are probably still not going to be the way you are 
used to.
That has been the case in my 35 plus years of dealing with synthesized speech.
This is also true with hardware external synthesizers with computers.

My first speech synthesizer was hard wired to say "sugar" whenever the letters 
s h i t appeared alone or in a word. 
One of my favorite guitarists is a man named Kazuhito Yamashita.
I did not know his name wasn't Yama-sugar-da for a very long time.
 



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,†and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert




On Jun 14, 2020, at 9:37 AM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I believe I've tried all that. Have no idea what to do next, however. thanks.

Karen
At 12:21 AM 6/14/2020, you wrote:



I don't see that this is an apple issue rather than a voice and language 
related issue,

I think personally that you need to set the dictionary for voiceover to say the 
word pease correctly by setting the dictionary to use a word that may not be 
correctly spelt but makes the word sound correct.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word

It seems to me that Apple fixes one thing, only to mess up something else.  I 
wish they would get stuff right.  I'm not saying they have anything to do with 
pronunciations but if they did, they need to fix it.

Shirley

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 ]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word

I can understand that words are mispronounced, but when one cannot even go in 
and correct the pronunciation, there is something wrong.

Karen
At 12:53 PM 6/13/2020, you wrote:
>It's the voice, not the screen-reader, that mostly determines how a
>word is pronounced. (The  voice's speech dictionary is
>'hard-wired'.) So, one solution to a mispronunciation issue is to
>instead use an alternative voice which will often speak the word
>correctly. (This is an over-extensive solution, since the number of
>mispronounced words (these days) is relatively small, by any
>good-quality voice.) Besides, each voice has the accent of the country
>from which its speaker hails: and, add to this, that not all possible
>words were spoken by the human whose speech samples were recorded for
>the particular voice. So the computer program gives its best guess
>based on 

RE: difference between apple care, and apple care plus

[Carolyn]

I remember when I bought my SE from Consumer Celluilar, and they did offer two 
kinds of protection, one being for repairs, and one for theft or loss 
coverage.Man, it would have cost a bunch. Back when I had my 4S, my 
daughter-in-love insisted I get that, she being a contender for screen cracking 
championship, but it cost so much that it didn't take me long to drop those. 
Every time I go into Settings, I am warned that I have three days left for some 
sort of coverage like that that AT wanted to sell me. It's been three days 
now for about three months - good old extensions, I guess. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: difference between apple care, and apple care plus

Hi all,

When I got my phone from Apple, I got Apple Care plus. I think this include 
theft and loss. That's what I heard anyway.

Jenn


Jenn and Kumi


On Jun 14, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Kenny Nead  wrote:



 

Apple does offer an Apple Care plan, that covers your breakage of your 
phone, and it lasts for two years. The regular Apple Care is just too answer 
that.questions when you are having trouble with your phone 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 11:52 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: difference between apple care, and apple care plus

 

Hi,

 

If you get it through your carrier, I wonder if what you have is 
actually an insurance plan from them, rather than Apple Care. If that's the 
case, it won't end at a specific time. If it is Apple Care, maybe your carrier 
offers an insurance plan you can use after it ends.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you do a web search for your question, you will find the 
difference. 

I do not remember other than a huge price difference.

I do not believe it is renewable, but you could also simply 
call Apple and find out.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he 
must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert





On Jun 14, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Terri Stimmel 
mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Hello everyone,


I didn't realize until yesterday that there is Apple 
care, and Apple care plus. A friend pointed this out to me. We were talking 
about when my Apple care was ending, and if I could somehow renew it.


So does anyone know what the differences are between 
Apple care, and Apple care plus?


Also, I have T-mobile, I pay for Apple care through 
them.

However, it ends this coming December.

Can I renew it? Or is this not possible?


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: difference between apple care, and apple care plus

[Carolyn]

What is it that people get that replaces or repairs their phones? I know two 
people, who vie for the world championship screen crackers; they have some kind 
of insurance. I figure for as much as it costs, I'm better off taking chances. 
I'm ahead now. 

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Kenny Nead
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Apple does offer an Apple Care plan, that covers your breakage of your phone, 
and it lasts for two years. The regular Apple Care is just too answer questions 
when you are having trouble with your phone 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 11:52 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: difference between apple care, and apple care plus

 

Hi,

 

If you get it through your carrier, I wonder if what you have is actually an 
insurance plan from them, rather than Apple Care. If that's the case, it won't 
end at a specific time. If it is Apple Care, maybe your carrier offers an 
insurance plan you can use after it ends.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you do a web search for your question, you will find the difference. 

I do not remember other than a huge price difference.

I do not believe it is renewable, but you could also simply call Apple 
and find out.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting 
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Jun 14, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Terri Stimmel 
mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Hello everyone,


I didn't realize until yesterday that there is Apple care, and 
Apple care plus. A friend pointed this out to me. We were talking about when my 
Apple care was ending, and if I could somehow renew it.


So does anyone know what the differences are between Apple 
care, and Apple care plus?


Also, I have T-mobile, I pay for Apple care through them.

However, it ends this coming December.

Can I renew it? Or is this not possible?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Pronunciation of a word

[Richard Turner]

Back in the day, it was actually the external synthesizer not the software, so 
nothing could be done.
That was also on MS-DOS, so things were a little different then.
It was entertaining while not helpful, grin.
Later,




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 14, 2020, at 10:03 AM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 hehehehe Oh, man, that's sad and funny at the same time. Sad that the creator 
of the screenreader would make that decision for you, but funny, too. I've used 
screen readers for over twenty years, and never found one yet that I couldn't 
teach to say things the way I wished. Well, this is a first, unfortunately.

Karen
At 09:50 AM 6/14/2020, you wrote:
Some voices will not change their pronunciation no matter what you do because 
it is hardwired into that voice.
So, you have a choice: live with it, or find a voice that you can tolerate that 
pronounces the words the way you want to hear them.
Remembering that some words are probably still not going to be the way you are 
used to.
That has been the case in my 35 plus years of dealing with synthesized speech.
This is also true with hardware external synthesizers with computers.

My first speech synthesizer was hard wired to say "sugar" whenever the letters 
s h i t appeared alone or in a word.
One of my favorite guitarists is a man named Kazuhito Yamashita.
I did not know his name wasn't Yama-sugar-da for a very long time.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,†and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 14, 2020, at 9:37 AM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

I believe I've tried all that. Have no idea what to do next, however. thanks.

Karen
At 12:21 AM 6/14/2020, you wrote:
I don't see that this is an apple issue rather than a voice and language 
related issue,

I think personally that you need to set the dictionary for voiceover to say the 
word pease correctly by setting the dictionary to use a word that may not be 
correctly spelt but makes the word sound correct.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word

It seems to me that Apple fixes one thing, only to mess up something else.  I 
wish they would get stuff right.  I'm not saying they have anything to do with 
pronunciations but if they did, they need to fix it.

Shirley

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word

I can understand that words are mispronounced, but when one cannot even go in 
and correct the pronunciation, there is something wrong.

Karen
At 12:53 PM 6/13/2020, you wrote:
>It's the voice, not the screen-reader, that mostly determines how a
>word is pronounced. (The  voice's speech dictionary is
>'hard-wired'.) So, one solution to a mispronunciation issue is to
>instead use an alternative voice which will often speak the word
>correctly. (This is an over-extensive solution, since the number of
>mispronounced words (these days) is relatively small, by any
>good-quality voice.) Besides, each voice has the accent of the country
>from which its speaker hails: and, add to this, that not all possible
>words were spoken by the human whose speech samples were recorded for
>the particular voice. So the computer program gives its best guess
>based on algorithms across and between the speech samples, how a new or
>unrecorded word should be spoken by that voice. Thus, also, 'artifacts'
>are introduced into the speech which don't or never would occur in
>natural human speech: and when a word is misspoken by the computer's
>voice, you have to go to considerable lengths to make it sound like the
>word you're used to.
>
>-Original Message- From: Carolyn
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:17 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word
>
>I tried this, and it sounds right with JAWS on my computer:
>
>Peese
>
>P e e s e like cheese. Now, you'd think peese would sound like cheese
>or peas, but it sounds like peace.
>
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>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:57 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word
>
>How are you spelling the substitution for 'peace'? Does 'piece' come
>out the same way? Try 

Re: Drafts5 and Markdown options?

[Kimberly]

I think I figured out what the problem is. Go into settings and turn off the 
option to hide the extended keyboard and that should bring your choices back 
from markdown header and link etc. Let me know if that works.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
True peace is not merely the absence of tensions; it is the presence of 
justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.

>> On Jun 12, 2020, at 3:05 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> No luck. Might it be that I’m using Drafts5 without the subscription active? 
> Right now I don’t have the means to subscribe.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
>> El 12 jun 2020, a la(s) 1:47 p.m., Kimberly  
>> escribió:
>> If you flick right from the text field you should find both options 
>> available. Mark down header and insert smart link are quite a bit down the 
>> list but they are both present. I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
>> True peace is not merely the absence of tensions; it is the presence of 
>> justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.
>> 
 On Jun 11, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> Any of you guys use Drafts? I recently migrated from Drafts4 to the new 
>>> version, Drafts5. ON the new Drafts, I can’t seem to locate two options 
>>> that I used a lot in the previous version: Markdown Header, and Smart Link. 
>>> ARe they no longer available, or where are they? Thanks for info.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Re: Drafts5 and Markdown options?

[Kimber Gardner]

I think I figured out what's going on with your missing options for
markdown. Go into settings and turn off the hide extended keyboard
setting. I think that will bring back your options for markdown
header, smart link etc. Let me know if it works. I think it will.

Kim

On 6/14/20, Kimberly  wrote:
> Hmm, weird since I’m not on the subscription model either. What do you find
> when flicking right from the text field?
>
>
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> True peace is not merely the absence of tensions; it is the presence of
> justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.
>
>> On Jun 12, 2020, at 3:05 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>
>> No luck. Might it be that I’m using Drafts5 without the subscription
>> active? Right now I don’t have the means to subscribe.
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>
>>> El 12 jun 2020, a la(s) 1:47 p.m., Kimberly 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> If you flick right from the text field you should find both options
>>> available. Mark down header and insert smart link are quite a bit down
>>> the list but they are both present. I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
>>> True peace is not merely the absence of tensions; it is the presence of
>>> justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.
>>>
 On Jun 11, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Gerardo Corripio 
 wrote:

 Any of you guys use Drafts? I recently migrated from Drafts4 to the new
 version, Drafts5. ON the new Drafts, I can’t seem to locate two options
 that I used a lot in the previous version: Markdown Header, and Smart
 Link. ARe they no longer available, or where are they? Thanks for info.

 Gera
 Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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Re: Drafts5 and Markdown options?

[Kimberly]

Hmm, weird since I’m not on the subscription model either. What do you find 
when flicking right from the text field?


Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
True peace is not merely the absence of tensions; it is the presence of 
justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.

> On Jun 12, 2020, at 3:05 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> No luck. Might it be that I’m using Drafts5 without the subscription active? 
> Right now I don’t have the means to subscribe.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
>> El 12 jun 2020, a la(s) 1:47 p.m., Kimberly  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> If you flick right from the text field you should find both options 
>> available. Mark down header and insert smart link are quite a bit down the 
>> list but they are both present. I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
>> True peace is not merely the absence of tensions; it is the presence of 
>> justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any of you guys use Drafts? I recently migrated from Drafts4 to the new 
>>> version, Drafts5. ON the new Drafts, I can’t seem to locate two options 
>>> that I used a lot in the previous version: Markdown Header, and Smart Link. 
>>> ARe they no longer available, or where are they? Thanks for info.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Re: difference between apple care, and apple care plus

[Jennie Facer]

Hi all,

When I got my phone from Apple, I got Apple Care plus. I think this include 
theft and loss. That's what I heard anyway.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 14, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Kenny Nead  wrote:
> 
> 
> Apple does offer an Apple Care plan, that covers your breakage of your phone, 
> and it lasts for two years. The regular Apple Care is just too answer 
> that.questions when you are having trouble with your phone
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 11:52 AM
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> Subject: Re: difference between apple care, and apple care plus
>  
> Hi,
>  
> If you get it through your carrier, I wonder if what you have is actually an 
> insurance plan from them, rather than Apple Care. If that's the case, it 
> won't end at a specific time. If it is Apple Care, maybe your carrier offers 
> an insurance plan you can use after it ends.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
> On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>  
> If you do a web search for your question, you will find the difference.
> I do not remember other than a huge price difference.
> I do not believe it is renewable, but you could also simply call Apple and 
> find out.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> 
> On Jun 14, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I didn't realize until yesterday that there is Apple care, and Apple care 
> plus. A friend pointed this out to me. We were talking about when my Apple 
> care was ending, and if I could somehow renew it.
> 
> 
> So does anyone know what the differences are between Apple care, and Apple 
> care plus?
> 
> 
> Also, I have T-mobile, I pay for Apple care through them.
> 
> However, it ends this coming December.
> 
> Can I renew it? Or is this not possible?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: ITunes For Windows Question

[Don Ball]

well I had downloaded the app and that is exactly what they have done in 
reguard to the app. I tryed to install the program this morning and had 
problems which I have now resolved. I will try the program hopefully for a 
better experience.;


-Original Message- 
From: Arnold Schmidt

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITunes For Windows Question

Unfortunately, I do not have a modern enough computer to investigate 
further. When you told me what it said, I thought Apple had recently divided 
it into itunes store, app store, music and videos, as it now is on the mac 
and IOS. Apparently not yet.


Arnold


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Don Ball  wrote:


I will say that I downloaded itunes from the app store for windows 10 and 
the app maybe a little different than the fully installed version if there 
is one. I didn't delve in to the app that much sense I got a message that it 
was for music only.;

-Original Message- From: Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes For Windows Question

Arnold,

I'm still running Windows 7 but I have the latest version of iTunes for 
Windows and it still allows me to make encrypted backups to my computer and 
to do file transfers. I'm not sure what told your friend that iTunes for 
Windows only allowed music and videos. That hasn't been my experience.


Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arnold Schmidt

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITunes For Windows Question

I have a friend who recently got an IPhone SE who downloaded ITunes For 
Windows.   He says that it says it is only for music and videos, everything 
else is done in the cloud. I know that ITunes, as one large program, is no 
longer on the mac, having been divided into separate programs as it is in 
IOS. But I thought Itunes For Windows was still the one program. If not, how 
does one back up to their computer, file transfer, etc now? Thanks for any 
information.


Arnold Schmidt


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Re: Pronunciation of a word

['Karen Delzer' via VIPhone]

hehehehe Oh, man, that's sad and funny at the 
same time. Sad that the creator of the 
screenreader would make that decision for you, 
but funny, too. I've used screen readers for over 
twenty years, and never found one yet that I 
couldn't teach to say things the way I wished. 
Well, this is a first, unfortunately.


Karen
At 09:50 AM 6/14/2020, you wrote:
Some voices will not change their pronunciation 
no matter what you do because it is hardwired into that voice.
So, you have a choice: live with it, or find a 
voice that you can tolerate that pronounces the 
words the way you want to hear them.
Remembering that some words are probably still 
not going to be the way you are used to.

That has been the case in my 35 plus years of dealing with synthesized speech.
This is also true with hardware external synthesizers with computers.

My first speech synthesizer was hard wired to 
say "sugar" whenever the letters s h i t appeared alone or in a word.

One of my favorite guitarists is a man named Kazuhito Yamashita.
I did not know his name wasn't Yama-sugar-da for a very long time.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge 
over which he must pass himself,† and we 
forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable 
that while I have regretted not granting grace 
to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 14, 2020, at 9:37 AM, 'Karen Delzer' via 
VIPhone  wrote:


I believe I've tried all that. Have no idea 
what to do next, however. thanks.


Karen
At 12:21 AM 6/14/2020, you wrote:
I don't see that this is an apple issue rather 
than a voice and language related issue,


I think personally that you need to set the 
dictionary for voiceover to say the word pease 
correctly by setting the dictionary to use a 
word that may not be correctly spelt but makes the word sound correct.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Shirley Baker

Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word

It seems to me that Apple fixes one thing, 
only to mess up something else.  I wish they 
would get stuff right.  I'm not saying they 
have anything to do with pronunciations but if they did, they need to fix it.


Shirley

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word

I can understand that words are mispronounced, 
but when one cannot even go in and correct the 
pronunciation, there is something wrong.


Karen
At 12:53 PM 6/13/2020, you wrote:
>It's the voice, not the screen-reader, that mostly determines how a
>word is pronounced. (The  voice's speech dictionary is
>'hard-wired'.) So, one solution to a mispronunciation issue is to
>instead use an alternative voice which will often speak the word
>correctly. (This is an over-extensive solution, since the number of
>mispronounced words (these days) is relatively small, by any
>good-quality voice.) Besides, each voice has the accent of the country
>from which its speaker hails: and, add to this, that not all possible
>words were spoken by the human whose speech samples were recorded for
>the particular voice. So the computer program gives its best guess
>based on algorithms across and between the speech samples, how a new or
>unrecorded word should be spoken by that voice. Thus, also, 'artifacts'
>are introduced into the speech which don't or never would occur in
>natural human speech: and when a word is misspoken by the computer's
>voice, you have to go to considerable lengths to make it sound like the
>word you're used to.
>
>-Original Message- From: Carolyn
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:17 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word
>
>I tried this, and it sounds right with JAWS on my computer:
>
>Peese
>
>P e e s e like cheese. Now, you'd think peese would sound like cheese
>or peas, but it sounds like peace.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:57 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word
>
>How are you spelling the substitution for 'peace'? Does 'piece' come
>out the same way? Try peess?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
>Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:36 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Pronunciation of a word
>
>Hi, all,
>I'm sorry if this has been covered, but this is driving me batty.
>When I hear the word "peace" on my iPhone, it is always pronounced
>"peas." Now, it doesn't matter if I try to change the pronunciation in
>the correct place in Settings. No matter what I do, and I have tried
>many, many things, it always gives me the same outcome. I'm using the
>Alison voice if that matters. Just drives me nuts. 

RE: difference between apple care, and apple care plus

[Kenny Nead]

Apple does offer an Apple Care plan, that covers your breakage of your phone, 
and it lasts for two years. The regular Apple Care is just too answer questions 
when you are having trouble with your phone

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 11:52 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: difference between apple care, and apple care plus

Hi,

If you get it through your carrier, I wonder if what you have is actually an 
insurance plan from them, rather than Apple Care. If that's the case, it won't 
end at a specific time. If it is Apple Care, maybe your carrier offers an 
insurance plan you can use after it ends.

Best,
Anna



On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

If you do a web search for your question, you will find the difference.
I do not remember other than a huge price difference.
I do not believe it is renewable, but you could also simply call Apple and find 
out.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 14, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Terri Stimmel 
mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hello everyone,


I didn't realize until yesterday that there is Apple care, and Apple care plus. 
A friend pointed this out to me. We were talking about when my Apple care was 
ending, and if I could somehow renew it.


So does anyone know what the differences are between Apple care, and Apple care 
plus?


Also, I have T-mobile, I pay for Apple care through them.

However, it ends this coming December.

Can I renew it? Or is this not possible?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: difference between apple care, and apple care plus

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

If you get it through your carrier, I wonder if what you have is actually an 
insurance plan from them, rather than Apple Care. If that's the case, it won't 
end at a specific time. If it is Apple Care, maybe your carrier offers an 
insurance plan you can use after it ends.

Best,
Anna


> On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you do a web search for your question, you will find the difference.
> I do not remember other than a huge price difference.
> I do not believe it is renewable, but you could also simply call Apple and 
> find out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I didn't realize until yesterday that there is Apple care, and Apple care 
>> plus. A friend pointed this out to me. We were talking about when my Apple 
>> care was ending, and if I could somehow renew it.
>> 
>> 
>> So does anyone know what the differences are between Apple care, and Apple 
>> care plus?
>> 
>> 
>> Also, I have T-mobile, I pay for Apple care through them.
>> 
>> However, it ends this coming December.
>> 
>> Can I renew it? Or is this not possible?
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
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Re: Pronunciation of a word

[Richard Turner]

Some voices will not change their pronunciation no matter what you do because 
it is hardwired into that voice.
So, you have a choice: live with it, or find a voice that you can tolerate that 
pronounces the words the way you want to hear them.
Remembering that some words are probably still not going to be the way you are 
used to.
That has been the case in my 35 plus years of dealing with synthesized speech.
This is also true with hardware external synthesizers with computers.

My first speech synthesizer was hard wired to say "sugar" whenever the letters 
s h i t appeared alone or in a word.
One of my favorite guitarists is a man named Kazuhito Yamashita.
I did not know his name wasn't Yama-sugar-da for a very long time.




Richard
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others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 14, 2020, at 9:37 AM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

I believe I've tried all that. Have no idea what to do next, however. thanks.

Karen
At 12:21 AM 6/14/2020, you wrote:
I don't see that this is an apple issue rather than a voice and language 
related issue,

I think personally that you need to set the dictionary for voiceover to say the 
word pease correctly by setting the dictionary to use a word that may not be 
correctly spelt but makes the word sound correct.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word

It seems to me that Apple fixes one thing, only to mess up something else.  I 
wish they would get stuff right.  I'm not saying they have anything to do with 
pronunciations but if they did, they need to fix it.

Shirley

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word

I can understand that words are mispronounced, but when one cannot even go in 
and correct the pronunciation, there is something wrong.

Karen
At 12:53 PM 6/13/2020, you wrote:
>It's the voice, not the screen-reader, that mostly determines how a
>word is pronounced. (The  voice's speech dictionary is
>'hard-wired'.) So, one solution to a mispronunciation issue is to
>instead use an alternative voice which will often speak the word
>correctly. (This is an over-extensive solution, since the number of
>mispronounced words (these days) is relatively small, by any
>good-quality voice.) Besides, each voice has the accent of the country
>from which its speaker hails: and, add to this, that not all possible
>words were spoken by the human whose speech samples were recorded for
>the particular voice. So the computer program gives its best guess
>based on algorithms across and between the speech samples, how a new or
>unrecorded word should be spoken by that voice. Thus, also, 'artifacts'
>are introduced into the speech which don't or never would occur in
>natural human speech: and when a word is misspoken by the computer's
>voice, you have to go to considerable lengths to make it sound like the
>word you're used to.
>
>-Original Message- From: Carolyn
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:17 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word
>
>I tried this, and it sounds right with JAWS on my computer:
>
>Peese
>
>P e e s e like cheese. Now, you'd think peese would sound like cheese
>or peas, but it sounds like peace.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:57 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word
>
>How are you spelling the substitution for 'peace'? Does 'piece' come
>out the same way? Try peess?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
>Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:36 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Pronunciation of a word
>
>Hi, all,
>I'm sorry if this has been covered, but this is driving me batty.
>When I hear the word "peace" on my iPhone, it is always pronounced
>"peas." Now, it doesn't matter if I try to change the pronunciation in
>the correct place in Settings. No matter what I do, and I have tried
>many, many things, it always gives me the same outcome. I'm using the
>Alison voice if that matters. Just drives me nuts. When I hear "Lord,
>please give me peace," I don't want him to give me a scoop of veggies,
>so does anyone have any ideas here?
>
>TIA,
>Karen
>
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Re: how do you delete an unwanted voice from your phone

[Jennie Facer]

When you are in the voice itself and flick up on the default or enhanced voice, 
there is a delete button. I don't know if it actually deletes it or not.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 13, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jennie,
>  
> Glad what I posted worked. I first tried the settings path you posted under 
> Voiceover but I was unable to figure out how to delete any of the voices that 
> way. About all I was able to do was to select the default voice used when 
> rotoring to another language.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how do you delete an unwanted voice from your phone
>  
> Hi Allen and list,
>  
> Thank you so much for clearing up what I was trying to say. I was going about 
> it the wrong way. I didn't know you could do it from spoken content. Thanks 
> again.
>  
> Jen
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> 
> On Jun 13, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Casey,
>  
> Go to Settings, Accessibility, Spoken content, Voices, double tap on the 
> language containing the voice you wish to delete, find the voice in the list 
> that opens and double tap on it, place focus on the voice and single finger 
> swipe down until you hear delete then double tap.
>  
> Alan Lemly  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Casey 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:17:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: how do you delete an unwanted voice from your phone
>  
> hi if you have A voice that you no longer want how do you delete it from 
> your phone?
> 
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Re: how do you delete an unwanted voice from your phone

[Jennie Facer]

I don't think so. When you download a voice, it stays there until you delete it.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 13, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Kenny Nead  wrote:
> 
> 
> Are the voices like a radio box, when you add one, it removes the other?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: how do you delete an unwanted voice from your phone
>  
> Hi Jennie,
>  
> Glad what I posted worked. I first tried the settings path you posted under 
> Voiceover but I was unable to figure out how to delete any of the voices that 
> way. About all I was able to do was to select the default voice used when 
> rotoring to another language.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how do you delete an unwanted voice from your phone
>  
> Hi Allen and list,
>  
> Thank you so much for clearing up what I was trying to say. I was going about 
> it the wrong way. I didn't know you could do it from spoken content. Thanks 
> again.
>  
> Jen
> Jenn and Kumi
>  
> 
> On Jun 13, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Casey,
>  
> Go to Settings, Accessibility, Spoken content, Voices, double tap on the 
> language containing the voice you wish to delete, find the voice in the list 
> that opens and double tap on it, place focus on the voice and single finger 
> swipe down until you hear delete then double tap.
>  
> Alan Lemly  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Casey 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:17:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: how do you delete an unwanted voice from your phone
>  
> hi if you have A voice that you no longer want how do you delete it from 
> your phone?
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RE: Pronunciation of a word

['Karen Delzer' via VIPhone]

I believe I've tried all that. Have no idea what to do next, however. thanks.

Karen
At 12:21 AM 6/14/2020, you wrote:
I don't see that this is an apple issue rather than a voice and 
language related issue,


I think personally that you need to set the dictionary for voiceover 
to say the word pease correctly by setting the dictionary to use a 
word that may not be correctly spelt but makes the word sound correct.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Shirley Baker

Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word

It seems to me that Apple fixes one thing, only to mess up something 
else.  I wish they would get stuff right.  I'm not saying they have 
anything to do with pronunciations but if they did, they need to fix it.


Shirley

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word

I can understand that words are mispronounced, but when one cannot 
even go in and correct the pronunciation, there is something wrong.


Karen
At 12:53 PM 6/13/2020, you wrote:
>It's the voice, not the screen-reader, that mostly determines how a
>word is pronounced. (The  voice's speech dictionary is
>'hard-wired'.) So, one solution to a mispronunciation issue is to
>instead use an alternative voice which will often speak the word
>correctly. (This is an over-extensive solution, since the number of
>mispronounced words (these days) is relatively small, by any
>good-quality voice.) Besides, each voice has the accent of the country
>from which its speaker hails: and, add to this, that not all possible
>words were spoken by the human whose speech samples were recorded for
>the particular voice. So the computer program gives its best guess
>based on algorithms across and between the speech samples, how a new or
>unrecorded word should be spoken by that voice. Thus, also, 'artifacts'
>are introduced into the speech which don't or never would occur in
>natural human speech: and when a word is misspoken by the computer's
>voice, you have to go to considerable lengths to make it sound like the
>word you're used to.
>
>-Original Message- From: Carolyn
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:17 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word
>
>I tried this, and it sounds right with JAWS on my computer:
>
>Peese
>
>P e e s e like cheese. Now, you'd think peese would sound like cheese
>or peas, but it sounds like peace.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:57 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word
>
>How are you spelling the substitution for 'peace'? Does 'piece' come
>out the same way? Try peess?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
>Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:36 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Pronunciation of a word
>
>Hi, all,
>I'm sorry if this has been covered, but this is driving me batty.
>When I hear the word "peace" on my iPhone, it is always pronounced
>"peas." Now, it doesn't matter if I try to change the pronunciation in
>the correct place in Settings. No matter what I do, and I have tried
>many, many things, it always gives me the same outcome. I'm using the
>Alison voice if that matters. Just drives me nuts. When I hear "Lord,
>please give me peace," I don't want him to give me a scoop of veggies,
>so does anyone have any ideas here?
>
>TIA,
>Karen
>
>
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RE: ITunes For Windows Question

[Richard Turner]

iTunes for Windows hasn't done apps for quite a while now. It does music, Voice 
Memos if you check that, and videos and overall backups like the encrypted 
backup and the ability to do file transfers.
But apps are only handled on the iDevices now.
You of course can still update the device through iTunes and manage other 
settings like the accessibility settings when setting up a new device.
I don't remember which version was the one when it stopped supporting app 
downloads and transfers.
I think it was the same time that the Mac version was split into three parts.
 

Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITunes For Windows Question

Unfortunately, I do not have a modern enough computer to investigate further. 
When you told me what it said, I thought Apple had recently divided it into 
itunes store, app store, music and videos, as it now is on the mac and IOS. 
Apparently not yet. 

Arnold 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Don Ball  wrote:


I will say that I downloaded itunes from the app store for windows 10 and the 
app maybe a little different than the fully installed version if there is one. 
I didn't delve in to the app that much sense I got a message that it was for 
music only.; -Original Message- From: Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes For Windows Question

Arnold,

I'm still running Windows 7 but I have the latest version of iTunes for Windows 
and it still allows me to make encrypted backups to my computer and to do file 
transfers. I'm not sure what told your friend that iTunes for Windows only 
allowed music and videos. That hasn't been my experience.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITunes For Windows Question

I have a friend who recently got an IPhone SE who downloaded ITunes For 
Windows.   He says that it says it is only for music and videos, everything 
else is done in the cloud. I know that ITunes, as one large program, is no 
longer on the mac, having been divided into separate programs as it is in IOS. 
But I thought Itunes For Windows was still the one program. If not, how does 
one back up to their computer, file transfer, etc now? Thanks for any 
information.

Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

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Re: ITunes For Windows Question

[Arnold Schmidt]

Unfortunately, I do not have a modern enough computer to investigate further. 
When you told me what it said, I thought Apple had recently divided it into 
itunes store, app store, music and videos, as it now is on the mac and IOS. 
Apparently not yet. 

Arnold 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Don Ball  wrote:


I will say that I downloaded itunes from the app store for windows 10 and the 
app maybe a little different than the fully installed version if there is one. 
I didn't delve in to the app that much sense I got a message that it was for 
music only.;
-Original Message- From: Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes For Windows Question

Arnold,

I'm still running Windows 7 but I have the latest version of iTunes for Windows 
and it still allows me to make encrypted backups to my computer and to do file 
transfers. I'm not sure what told your friend that iTunes for Windows only 
allowed music and videos. That hasn't been my experience.

Alan Lemly

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Arnold Schmidt
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Subject: ITunes For Windows Question

I have a friend who recently got an IPhone SE who downloaded ITunes For 
Windows.   He says that it says it is only for music and videos, everything 
else is done in the cloud. I know that ITunes, as one large program, is no 
longer on the mac, having been divided into separate programs as it is in IOS. 
But I thought Itunes For Windows was still the one program. If not, how does 
one back up to their computer, file transfer, etc now? Thanks for any 
information.

Arnold Schmidt


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Re: How to add a book from voice dream reader to drop box?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I have no idea how to use such a program.  I think Itunes is a piece
of crap.  It isn't that accessible with a screen reader.  I don't know
of anyone besides yourself who uses iTunes file sharing.  How does it
work?

On 6/14/20, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> That is a case for using itunes file sharing to transfer large files
> into voice dream reader.  Many of my zip files are very large.  They are old
> time radio shows.
>
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>
> That is a massive file to try to download.
> I hope you do not have Cloud Sync enabled, because you should never have
> large files if you want Cloud sync to work.
> And, dealing with that large of a file in any app is going to be
> challenging.
> You really should ask Winston Chen directly: wins...@voicedream.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
>
>   On Jun 13, 2020, at 5:16 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
> wrote:
>
>
>   On this topic.  I'm trying to download a 3.4 gig zip file into voice
>   dream reader from dropbox.  It isn't working to well.  It almost looks
>   like after a certain percentage the file kind of goes back to 0% and
>   tried to redownload again.
>
>   On 6/13/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> I do not think you can copy a book from Voice Dream to Dropbox.
>
> You can from Dropbox, to Voice Dream.
>
> I'm Could you say more exactly what you are wanting to do?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
> pass
>
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
> Edward
>
> Herbert
>
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2020, at 12:46 AM, Jan Stirbens  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Is there a way to add a book from voice dream reader to drop box?  I am
>
> using iPhone XR, the latest version, and the latest version of voice
> dream
>
> reader.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
>
>
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Re: difference between apple care, and apple care plus

[Richard Turner]

If you do a web search for your question, you will find the difference.
I do not remember other than a huge price difference.
I do not believe it is renewable, but you could also simply call Apple and find 
out.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 14, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Hello everyone,


I didn't realize until yesterday that there is Apple care, and Apple care plus. 
A friend pointed this out to me. We were talking about when my Apple care was 
ending, and if I could somehow renew it.


So does anyone know what the differences are between Apple care, and Apple care 
plus?


Also, I have T-mobile, I pay for Apple care through them.

However, it ends this coming December.

Can I renew it? Or is this not possible?


Thank you,


Terri

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difference between apple care, and apple care plus

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I didn't realize until yesterday that there is Apple care, and Apple 
care plus. A friend pointed this out to me. We were talking about when 
my Apple care was ending, and if I could somehow renew it.



So does anyone know what the differences are between Apple care, and 
Apple care plus?



Also, I have T-mobile, I pay for Apple care through them.

However, it ends this coming December.

Can I renew it? Or is this not possible?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Headset

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

Probably you need a headset that is essentially goes over the head
while its microphone stays infront of your mouth at the time of its
use, while after using microphone could be bent back parallol to
headband. I used such headset of creative brand, don't know if it
would be available at your place though.

On 6/13/20, Dennis Long  wrote:
> I have a 5200 it is a good headset.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Why wired headset and what do you mean by microphone infront of your mouth
> and over your head?
>
> I'm assuming you mean the headset over your head and a boom microphone?
>
> Why wired?
> Why not bluetooth?
>
> The plantronixvoyager 5200 is a great headset and has a boom mic but only
> sits in one ear not over head, I think good quality sound and the mic is
> great quality
>
> Check it out and the benefit is that there is no wire to catch in clothing
> or other things.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Steve
> Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2020 6:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>
> Hi All,
>
> Looking for recommendations for a wired headset for an iPhone 10 XR.  I
> would prefer the style of headset that the microphone comes down in front of
> your mouth and goes over the top of your head.  Thanks in advance!
>
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Re: Pronunciation of a word

[Flor Lynch]

It is unfortunate. I'd prefer if it were possible to correct the 
pronunciation in the voice's dictionary rather than just generally by 
VoiceOver (or the screen-reader in Windows, etc.)


-Original Message- 
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 12:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word

I can understand that words are mispronounced, but when one cannot
even go in and correct the pronunciation, there is something wrong.

Karen
At 12:53 PM 6/13/2020, you wrote:
It's the voice, not the screen-reader, that mostly determines how a word is 
pronounced. (The  voice's speech dictionary is 'hard-wired'.) So, one 
solution to a mispronunciation issue is to instead use an alternative voice 
which will often speak the word correctly. (This is an over-extensive 
solution, since the number of mispronounced words (these days) is 
relatively small, by any good-quality voice.) Besides, each voice has the 
accent of the country from which its speaker hails: and, add to this, that 
not all possible words were spoken by the human whose speech samples were 
recorded for the particular voice. So the computer program gives its best 
guess based on algorithms across and between the speech samples, how a new 
or unrecorded word should be spoken by that voice. Thus, also, 'artifacts' 
are introduced into the speech which don't or never would occur in natural 
human speech: and when a word is misspoken by the computer's voice, you 
have to go to considerable lengths to make it sound like the word you're 
used to.


-Original Message- From: Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word

I tried this, and it sounds right with JAWS on my computer:

Peese

P e e s e like cheese. Now, you'd think peese would sound like cheese or 
peas, but it sounds like peace.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word

How are you spelling the substitution for 'peace'? Does 'piece' come out 
the same way? Try peess?


-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pronunciation of a word

Hi, all,
I'm sorry if this has been covered, but this is driving me batty.
When I hear the word "peace" on my iPhone, it is always pronounced "peas." 
Now, it doesn't matter if I try to change the pronunciation in the correct 
place in Settings. No matter what I do, and I have tried many, many things, 
it always gives me the same outcome. I'm using the Alison voice if that 
matters. Just drives me nuts. When I hear "Lord, please give me peace," I 
don't want him to give me a scoop of veggies, so does anyone have any ideas 
here?


TIA,
Karen


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Re: How to add a book from voice dream reader to drop box?

[Russ Kiehne]

That is a case for using itunes file sharing to transfer large files 
into voice dream reader.  Many of my zip files are very large.  They are old 
time radio shows.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: How to add a book from voice dream reader to drop box?

That is a massive file to try to download. 
I hope you do not have Cloud Sync enabled, because you should never have large 
files if you want Cloud sync to work.
And, dealing with that large of a file in any app is going to be challenging.
You really should ask Winston Chen directly: wins...@voicedream.com








Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


  On Jun 13, 2020, at 5:16 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:


  On this topic.  I'm trying to download a 3.4 gig zip file into voice
  dream reader from dropbox.  It isn't working to well.  It almost looks
  like after a certain percentage the file kind of goes back to 0% and
  tried to redownload again.

  On 6/13/20, Richard Turner  wrote:

I do not think you can copy a book from Voice Dream to Dropbox.

You can from Dropbox, to Voice Dream.

I'm Could you say more exactly what you are wanting to do?









Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass

himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient

hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not

granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward

Herbert



On Jun 13, 2020, at 12:46 AM, Jan Stirbens  wrote:



Hello,



Is there a way to add a book from voice dream reader to drop box?  I am

using iPhone XR, the latest version, and the latest version of voice dream

reader.

Any help is appreciated.



Jan



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Re: ITunes For Windows Question

[Don Ball]

I will say that I downloaded itunes from the app store for windows 10 and 
the app maybe a little different than the fully installed version if there 
is one. I didn't delve in to the app that much sense I got a message that it 
was for music only.;
-Original Message- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes For Windows Question

Arnold,

I'm still running Windows 7 but I have the latest version of iTunes for 
Windows and it still allows me to make encrypted backups to my computer and 
to do file transfers. I'm not sure what told your friend that iTunes for 
Windows only allowed music and videos. That hasn't been my experience.


Alan Lemly

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Of Arnold Schmidt

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:41 PM
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Subject: ITunes For Windows Question

I have a friend who recently got an IPhone SE who downloaded ITunes For 
Windows.   He says that it says it is only for music and videos, everything 
else is done in the cloud. I know that ITunes, as one large program, is no 
longer on the mac, having been divided into separate programs as it is in 
IOS. But I thought Itunes For Windows was still the one program. If not, how 
does one back up to their computer, file transfer, etc now? Thanks for any 
information.


Arnold Schmidt


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Re: Question About the New Classic Shell Phone

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

It is connected to one free online service, but not the one you said afaik.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shirley Baker" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 12:11 AM
Subject: Question About the New Classic Shell Phone


Does anyone know just out of curiosity, if you can play books from Audible.com 
or Bard using this particular phone? Not that I’m 
going to get one but was wondering. I have decided to get the SE 20 phone on 
Black Friday from Verizon. In  fact, spoke to a lady 
Thursday who used to be a Verizon rep and we were talking about the different 
phone stores so I have decided to stay with Verizon, 
and by the way she told me Verizon does not lock phones should you decide to go 
with another company.

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Re: problum trying to ancer a vidio call on what'sapp

[Joy Cyr]

In my case the phone was unlocked (I almost never do lock it) and it was tried 
with both the app closed and open.  These calls were always prearranged  ,I was 
waiting for them so while there were other apps open in the background I wasn't 
doing anything on the phone at the time.

Joy


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RE: Pronunciation of a word

[Simon A Fogarty]

I don't see that this is an apple issue rather than a voice and language 
related issue,

I think personally that you need to set the dictionary for voiceover to say the 
word pease correctly by setting the dictionary to use a word that may not be 
correctly spelt but makes the word sound correct.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:16 AM
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Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word

It seems to me that Apple fixes one thing, only to mess up something else.  I 
wish they would get stuff right.  I'm not saying they have anything to do with 
pronunciations but if they did, they need to fix it.  

Shirley 

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word

I can understand that words are mispronounced, but when one cannot even go in 
and correct the pronunciation, there is something wrong.

Karen
At 12:53 PM 6/13/2020, you wrote:
>It's the voice, not the screen-reader, that mostly determines how a 
>word is pronounced. (The  voice's speech dictionary is
>'hard-wired'.) So, one solution to a mispronunciation issue is to 
>instead use an alternative voice which will often speak the word 
>correctly. (This is an over-extensive solution, since the number of 
>mispronounced words (these days) is relatively small, by any 
>good-quality voice.) Besides, each voice has the accent of the country 
>from which its speaker hails: and, add to this, that not all possible 
>words were spoken by the human whose speech samples were recorded for 
>the particular voice. So the computer program gives its best guess 
>based on algorithms across and between the speech samples, how a new or 
>unrecorded word should be spoken by that voice. Thus, also, 'artifacts' 
>are introduced into the speech which don't or never would occur in 
>natural human speech: and when a word is misspoken by the computer's 
>voice, you have to go to considerable lengths to make it sound like the 
>word you're used to.
>
>-Original Message- From: Carolyn
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:17 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Pronunciation of a word
>
>I tried this, and it sounds right with JAWS on my computer:
>
>Peese
>
>P e e s e like cheese. Now, you'd think peese would sound like cheese 
>or peas, but it sounds like peace.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Flor Lynch
>Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:57 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Pronunciation of a word
>
>How are you spelling the substitution for 'peace'? Does 'piece' come 
>out the same way? Try peess?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
>Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:36 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Pronunciation of a word
>
>Hi, all,
>I'm sorry if this has been covered, but this is driving me batty.
>When I hear the word "peace" on my iPhone, it is always pronounced 
>"peas." Now, it doesn't matter if I try to change the pronunciation in 
>the correct place in Settings. No matter what I do, and I have tried 
>many, many things, it always gives me the same outcome. I'm using the 
>Alison voice if that matters. Just drives me nuts. When I hear "Lord, 
>please give me peace," I don't want him to give me a scoop of veggies, 
>so does anyone have any ideas here?
>
>TIA,
>Karen
>
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