Re: I must be the red headed step child.

[Donna Casteen]

Carolyn,

Sounds like you possibly may have  missed doing a step. After downloading 
Pandora you would have been asked to enter an email & choose a password. You 
would have been sent an email to confirm your email address that you would have 
had to click on a link to confirm email address. You would have had to login 
using the email & password that you chose during the sign up. All music service 
apps are going to require you to sign up in order to use their music service. 
Check your spam & trash folders for an email from Pandora. These were the steps 
that I had to take 3 weeks ago when I  signed up for the 3mos Free trial of 
Pandora. My other thought is that yesterday you accidently entered the wrong 
email or password.

Donna

  
> 
> I got away doing other things, then tried Pandora again.
> After even changing my password, they said, sorry, could not
> register me. That is so crazy. I am just thankful I had no
> problem with Google. 
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Re: I must be the red headed step child.

[Alex Stone]

I don’t like Spotify, but it does let you have a free trial.



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Yes, it is. I just hope Spotify is as good as people say Pandora is, but better 
second best than nothing, which is clearly what I have now.

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Carolyn, that’s strange




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I got away doing other things, then tried Pandora again.
After even changing my password, they said, sorry, could not register me. That 
is so crazy. I am just thankful I had no problem with Google.

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RE: I must be the red headed step child.

[Carolyn]

Yes, it is. I just hope Spotify is as good as people say Pandora is, but better 
second best than nothing, which is clearly what I have now. 

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Carolyn, that’s strange 




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I got away doing other things, then tried Pandora again.
After even changing my password, they said, sorry, could not register me. That 
is so crazy. I am just thankful I had no problem with Google. 

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RE: Question about Pandora.

[Carolyn]

I might dump Pandora and try Spotify. I did all that logging last night. 

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Carolyn:

Well, I never had to log in once I was set up with Pandora.  Don't know what to 
tell you, but there are other music apps to try.

I don't listen to much music myself. 

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Re: I must be the red headed step child.

[Alex Stone]

Carolyn, that’s strange



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I got away doing other things, then tried Pandora again.
After even changing my password, they said, sorry, could not
register me. That is so crazy. I am just thankful I had no
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I must be the red headed step child.

[Carolyn]

I got away doing other things, then tried Pandora again.
After even changing my password, they said, sorry, could not
register me. That is so crazy. I am just thankful I had no
problem with Google. 

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RE: warning: please do not update ios google app v161.0

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would have never noticed because I always find I get better results both in 
Google as well as on the App Store if I tap search after typing my search term. 
I can confirm this since I just updated, but it certainly isn't what I would 
call a big inconvenience and certainly not an accessibility issue.

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Please do not update this version of google. In previous versions one could 
simply tipe in a phrase or word en you could hear the results, this is nolonger 
possible.
However, when pressing search in the end, you can hear results but I know most 
of us prefered the other way it is certainly a regression in accessibility.
Davy 

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Re: File Folder Structure for VoiceDream Writer app

[Danny Leung]

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the reply. I hope more users contact the developer, showing the file 
folder feature is very helpful and will make the app more beneficial to users. 
Hoping the developer recognize that.

Cheering for you!
Danny


On 27 May 2021, at 1:21 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Agreed, I had asked about this a long time ago, so I just sent another request. 
 I asked if he could do it like he does Voice Dream Reader.
 
If you are not on the Voice Dream Products email list you may want to check it 
out too.
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Richard
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they become by it."

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Web site: www.turner42.com
 
 
 
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Leung
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 10:01 AM
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To all the VoiceDream Writer users,
 
I hope you can join me to send the request to the VD Writer developer to allow 
the app to safe files in a folder structures. 
 
I used to use the VD writer app as my main note taker app. Unfortunately after 
usin the app for a long while, I created so many files. But all the files are 
listed in the same area and it makes harder to find and not possible to group 
them in the same topic. 
 
I have submitted my comment and suggestion to the developer to have this 
feature. Unfortunately it has not happen . I have to switch to other note taker 
app which have the folder structure. But I like the VD Writer app very much and 
hate to delete it from my phone.
 
If you think this feature is worth to include, may I ask you to join me to send 
the request to the developer? Hopefully the developer will consider to add the 
feature in next release.
 
Many tanks in advance for your cooperation.
 
Cheering for you!
Danny
 
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Re: Question about Pandora.

[Holly]

Carolyn:

Well, I never had to log in once I was set up with Pandora.  Don't know what 
to tell you, but there are other music apps to try.


I don't listen to much music myself. 


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RE: Question about Pandora.

[Carolyn]

I went into Google, that I also downloaded yesterday, no problem, found out 
questions, watched video, good Google stuff. 

When I go into Pandora, it wants email and password again, which I just did 
before composing this answer. It says I gave the wrong password. It says unable 
to log me in. I am temped to trash the thing, get it off my phone and depend on 
Google. 

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Carolyn:

At first, when I asked Siri to play something, I didn't have it open.  The 
music started playing, and I had to open the app and get to the app switcher 
before I could close it to stop the music.  The second time I tried it, I 
opened the app first, so it was easier to stop the music. 

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Re: Question about Pandora.

[Holly]

Carolyn:

At first, when I asked Siri to play something, I didn't have it open.  The 
music started playing, and I had to open the app and get to the app switcher 
before I could close it to stop the music.  The second time I tried it, I 
opened the app first, so it was easier to stop the music. 


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warning: please do not update ios google app v161.0

[davycuppens]

Please do not update this version of google. In previous versions one could
simply tipe in a phrase or word en you could hear the results, this is
nolonger possible.
However, when pressing search in the end, you can hear results but I know
most of us prefered the other way it is certainly a regression in
accessibility.
Davy 

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RE: New Cloudbeats update seems inaccessible.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, forgot, I just checked and there is a captcha required before you can 
send it. There is no audio option, but going onto the graphic and using Jaws 
OCR for the control, Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by O and C did recognize it 
for me and I was able to send the message after entering the code which I think 
was 4 or 5 alphanumeric characters.

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Subject: New Cloudbeats update seems inaccessible.

The new update for the cloudbeats app seems inaccessible. I even used screen 
recognition and notice some of my Dropbox filenames there, but can't click on 
any, including the email developers link. Does anyone have the email so I can 
write to them? I think I paid six dollars for this app, so that I could play 
entire Dropbox folders without interruption.
Thanks,
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RE: New Cloudbeats update seems inaccessible.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can go to their website at www.cloudbeatsapp.com and click on Contact Us to 
send them a message.

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Subject: New Cloudbeats update seems inaccessible.

The new update for the cloudbeats app seems inaccessible. I even used screen 
recognition and notice some of my Dropbox filenames there, but can't click on 
any, including the email developers link. Does anyone have the email so I can 
write to them? I think I paid six dollars for this app, so that I could play 
entire Dropbox folders without interruption.
Thanks,
Matthew

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RE: Switching over to Sonos S2 controler

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The OS on your phone makes no difference, the S1 controller works fine on the 
latest version of iOS, but unless you have older hardware such as a Connect, 
Connect Amp, original Play 5 etc. there is no reason to use the S1 controller.
There are also third party Sonos remotes available in the App Store, I 
personally don't see a point in using them, but one of them is SonoPhone which 
according to the description works with all Sonos products and can be used even 
on an iPhone 4S or old iPod Touch, but this is not a free app.
There is also an app called Lyd which is a Sonos Controller for the Apple 
Watch, it is also not free.
Lastly I also just saw an app called Sonos Automation which offers SIRI 
shortcuts for Sonos. One interesting point the developer makes is that unlike 
with the actual Sonos Controller where you have to be on the same WiFi network 
to connect and control your system, his SIRI shortcuts work from anywhere and 
yu can ask SIRI to play something even if you are not at home.

-Original Message-
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Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Switching over to Sonos S2 controler

Yeah I can only now use the s2 app as the OS on my phone and the sonos firmware 
will only work with that ap version.

And I have all play 1 and p;lay bar,



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 5:15 am
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Subject: RE: Switching over to Sonos S2 controler

It is basically the same at least it was when I last used the S1 app before 
upgrading all my old Connect and Connect:Amp devices to either Sonos Amp or 
Port devices. I assume that as time goes by there maybe features in the S2 
controller which don't exist in the S1 controller because the older hardware 
doesn't support them, but I think for now it's very similar. Of course you do 
have to be sure that all your Sonos speakers are S2 compatible. 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Switching over to Sonos S2 controler

Can people share their experience what it was like to switch over from the 
original Sonos app to the new one? Also, do all of the older speakers need to 
switch over at the same time? I have unpacked one speaker, but I am not sure 
where the second one is. We have two play ones.

If I end up buying a Roam, I know I will need to switch to the new app.

Thank you,
Traci

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RE: Question about settings

[Sieghard Weitzel]

In addition to what others said I would just add that in my opinion it's a good 
thing to turn on WiFi calling because especially if you live somewhere with a 
poor cell signal this can greatly improve your call quality; in my opinion it 
certainly does not do any harm.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Tracy
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 1:56 PM
To: 'Stur It Up Productions' via VIPhone 
Subject: Question about settings

Will someone please clarify the setting “wifi Call?”
I am leaving “Cellular” on so that I can make calls when I’m away. If I leave 
the “WIFI call” on, will I still be able to use my phone on WIFI when home and 
without WIFI when away? Should I leave it off?

You can tell I’m still not really comfortable using my Iphone, but I’m 
persistent.

Shirley
And 8-year-old puppy Jack



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RE: Question about Pandora.

[Carolyn]

Did you have Pandora open, Hollie? 

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Carolyn:

When I tried it, and Siri said she had to get permission, I just said 'yes' 
and she connected to Pandora.  It took a few seconds to start up.  I never had 
to enter id or password. 

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RE: File Folder Structure for VoiceDream Writer app

[Richard Turner]

Agreed, I had asked about this a long time ago, so I just sent another request. 
 I asked if he could do it like he does Voice Dream Reader.

If you are not on the Voice Dream Products email list you may want to check it 
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voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny 
Leung
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: File Folder Structure for VoiceDream Writer app


To all the VoiceDream Writer users,

I hope you can join me to send the request to the VD Writer developer to allow 
the app to safe files in a folder structures.

I used to use the VD writer app as my main note taker app. Unfortunately after 
usin the app for a long while, I created so many files. But all the files are 
listed in the same area and it makes harder to find and not possible to group 
them in the same topic.

I have submitted my comment and suggestion to the developer to have this 
feature. Unfortunately it has not happen . I have to switch to other note taker 
app which have the folder structure. But I like the VD Writer app very much and 
hate to delete it from my phone.

If you think this feature is worth to include, may I ask you to join me to send 
the request to the developer? Hopefully the developer will consider to add the 
feature in next release.

Many tanks in advance for your cooperation.

Cheering for you!
Danny

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File Folder Structure for VoiceDream Writer app

[Danny Leung]

To all the VoiceDream Writer users,

I hope you can join me to send the request to the VD Writer developer to allow 
the app to safe files in a folder structures. 

I used to use the VD writer app as my main note taker app. Unfortunately after 
usin the app for a long while, I created so many files. But all the files are 
listed in the same area and it makes harder to find and not possible to group 
them in the same topic. 

I have submitted my comment and suggestion to the developer to have this 
feature. Unfortunately it has not happen . I have to switch to other note taker 
app which have the folder structure. But I like the VD Writer app very much and 
hate to delete it from my phone.

If you think this feature is worth to include, may I ask you to join me to send 
the request to the developer? Hopefully the developer will consider to add the 
feature in next release.

Many tanks in advance for your cooperation.

Cheering for you!
Danny

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Re: An iPhone Question

[Donna Casteen]

To add or remove items from control center: Go to settings. Swipe down to 
control center, tap to open. The item at the top of the list are the items that 
will show up in control center when swiping up from the bottom of the screen 
outside of settings. To remove an item from control center: Find the item to be 
removed. Use 1 finger & swipe up on the name of the item. One option is remove. 
Tap on remove & the item will be removed from control center. To add an item to 
control center: Go to settings. Swipe down to control center, tap to open. 
Swipe down the list of items. Tap on the item that to be added to control 
center. To rearrange items in control center: Go to Settings. Swipe down to 
control center, tap to open. Flick up/down on the item to be repositioned, the 
item can be moved one position above or below its current position.

Donna
 
> 
>  When you go into settings, control center, and find the reorder camera, or 
> reorder flashlight buttons, you have to do the double tap and hold gesture, 
> then drag your finger down the screen until you hear it go below something 
> that is in the lower section that have an insert button because they are not 
> already in the control center.
> Then when you open the control center on its own, you will not see camera or 
> flashlight,.
> It appears at least with 14.6, that you cannot move or reorder anything prior 
> to Screen Mirroring.
> But everything else is up for grabs.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On May 27, 2021, at 5:19 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> The flashlight & camera can not be removed from the Lock screen, but they 
>> can be removed from control center by going to Settings & swiping to control 
>> center.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>  I don’t know if you could remove them however, I’m sure you could move them 
>> to the bottom.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>> 
 On May 27, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
 
 
 Hello all,
  
 Is there any way of removing the camera and flashlight from the control 
 center, and from the lock screen?
  
 When I go to control center, and double tap on reorder flashlight, or 
 camera, they’re still there when I go back to control center.
 I just read that I O S 14.6 has been released, are there any new features?
 Noe
  
  
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RE: A VoiceDream Writer question

[Richard Turner]

If you had not closed the file, there would have been an undo.
It is toward the bottom of the edit screen, above the keyboard, If you find the 
cursor button, and flick right you have:
Cursor, Cursor Movement Unit, Select Text, Start Proof Reading, Undo, Redo, 
Dismiss keyboard.
Those may be dimmed if they are not available at the time.

HTH,


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Steele
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:58 AM
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Subject: A VoiceDream Writer question

Hello Listers,

I have cloud enabled in the VoiceDream Writer APP, and, this morning, I went 
into a file containing a number of e-mail addresses and instead of copying the 
text selected to the clipboard, I accidentally cut the text. Is there a way to 
retrieve the text, or is it gone forever? I tried to undo what I'd done, but 
was unsuccessful. I only wish now that I'd saved the file's information in 
Dropbox. Thanks for any suggestions.
 

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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A VoiceDream Writer question

[Duane Steele]

Hello Listers,

I have cloud enabled in the VoiceDream Writer APP, and, this morning, I went 
into a file containing a number of e-mail addresses and instead of copying the 
text selected to the clipboard, I accidentally cut the text. Is there a way to 
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Re: Question about Pandora.

[Holly]

Carolyn:

When I tried it, and Siri said she had to get permission, I just said 'yes' 
and she connected to Pandora.  It took a few seconds to start up.  I never 
had to enter id or password. 


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Clubhouse Event, and Updates From The Supersense Blog

[Shane Lowe]

Hey everyone,
I hope you're doing well! We've been writing a ton of stuff over the
past two months that you may be curious to read.
Before I get into that though, feel free to join me on Clubhouse
tomorrow, May 28 at 4 PM Eastern for an open chat about Supersense and
Super Lidar. It would be a lot of fun to connect! Here's the link to
the event. You can use this link to join Clubhouse, as well, if you
don't already have it. See you tomorrow!
https://www.clubhouse.com/event/MRDwW2Jz


Now then, onto the reading!
My friend Daisy Russell, soon to be a published author, took time out
of her schedule to write a bit about Instacart. You can read it here:
https://www.supersense.app/post/accessible-shopping-instacart-review
You can also learn more about her book, Wicked Rebellion, and attend
the book launch here: https://m.facebook.com/events/856741008521827

We've been working with a ton of guest writers lately, and this one
specializes in programming as a blind person!
https://www.supersense.app/post/blind-coders-blazing-trails-by-jana-schroeder

Another of our guest authors wrote this post about an accessible
kitchen, and the instant pot:
https://www.supersense.app/post/accidentally-accessible-a-kitchen-story

We also posted a collection of our accessibility-related posts for
accessibility awareness week!
https://www.supersense.app/post/our-best-posts-on-accessibility

Finally, I got to sit down with Ellif, a blind psychologist and
professor living in Turkey to share her story:
https://www.supersense.app/post/supersense-presents-dr-elif-emir-oksuz-blind-psychologist-and-university-professor

Happy reading, and as always, let us know if there's anything you ever
want to see. In the mean time, see you tomorrow on Clubhouse!

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RE: Question about Pandora.

[Carolyn]

She asked for my permission too, and when I opened, I got all these fields, 
like I had never gotten Pandora, yet, there it is in my icons. 

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I think so.  Try it.  Just ask Siri to play a certain song from Pandora. 
When I tried it, she asked permission to link to my Pandora app and then played 
the song.  I had to open the Pandora app  and then close it with the app 
switcher to get the music to stop.  LOL 

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RE: Question about Pandora.

[Carolyn]

I tried to get James Taylor radio. Siri said I'd have to make Pandora available 
or something like that. So, I went, had to enter password and an email address, 
tried hitting the finish button, and finally was told they could not do this at 
this time. Clearly, I am missing something. I am in kindergarten, when it comes 
to apps, so need to learn the a b c's first, but don't know where I will do 
that, might just have to do without. 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 7:44 PM
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Subject: Re: Question about Pandora.

Carolyn, if you want to hear specific songs, then you'd need to pay for a 
different music service like youtube music.  I could ask Siri to either play a 
particular artist, or hear a specific song on youtube music, and Siri will open 
up youtube music, and play the song I want if it is available.

On 5/26/21, Maria Campbell  wrote:
> You can tell Siri  to play James Taylor radio on Pandora.
>
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> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
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> On 5/26/2021 6:47 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> Can I just ask Siri to play a song, now that I finally got the 
>> Pandora app downloaded?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[goshawk on horseback]

yes, it was super fun the few times I have been, and is definitely on the 
agenda for next year, when we hopefully have normality back again. 

Simon 


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  Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 2:10 PM
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- The Washington Post





  Hi, Everyone,


  I swam with sea lions too and it was a lot of fun!  I didn't notice any odors 
from them either, but perhaps some do.  Take care.


  EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On May 26, 2021, at 9:14 PM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:


 
that's why I thought that the seaLion would be a bit of a better idea, 
rather than a dolphin, which would have been my other swimming guide choice. 
actually, having been swimming with a seaLion, I can say from experience, 
that they do not "stink" at all, so don't know where you got that idea from. 

Simon 


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  And the sea lion would be able to go on land as well,





  They’d stink though.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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  that might be a bit of a problem in somewhere like london for example, 
where there ain't really any woods around. 

  personally, as I love my open water swimming, a guide seaLion would suit 
me a lot better. 

  for the more land based stuff, I wish I could use my horse Lizzie, as I 
could ride her as well, so she would be both my guide, and transport. 

  think that may be a bit of a problem when needing to go somewhere by 
train though. 



  Simon 





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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:43 AM

Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers 
think so. - The Washington Post



Now that’s a cool thought,



A gide bear!



No one would give you trouble when they see that walking the streets 
with you.



And bears shit in the woods!



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 5:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers 
think so. - The Washington Post



Yes, we call them dinner bells (as a joke of course because they do 
work). Then of course there is the pepper spray which if your are unlucky the 
bear will take away from you and use it for seasoning 藍



Fortunately most bears aren't all that interested in eating you 
although there are exceptions, Mummy bears of course may decide to take you out 
if you accidently got too close to their babies and they think you are a thread 
and there are sometimes simply bears which are aggressive and which for the 
most part havde lost their natural fear of humans because they have gotten too 
used to us and those are usually the ones which are more dangerous.

My wife and I went for a walk on the trails around our town last fall 
and we came around a bend and here was my yellow lab running full out towards a 
black bear probably thinking that he looked like a good playmate. My previous 
dog seemed to have his natural instincts a lot more and he always alerted me 
when there was a bear or moose nearby. Anyways, the bear fortunately was not 
aggressive and probably had eaten plenty of salmon in order to fatten himself 
up for the long sleep ahead, I yelled at my dog and he braked to a stop a foot 
or two in front of the bear and then came back. I started yelling and we backed 
up and all was well, but even though we had just passed a group of people maybe 
a hundred yards further back this is not an encounter I need too often because 
it could have gone either way.





Best regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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think so. - The Washington Post



I heard the author Bill Bryson in person once, and he was telling about 
his adventures and the warnings he received from the outdoor equipment store 
salesperson about walking through bear country.



Salesperson: Make lots of noise.  Wearing bells is a good way to do 
that.

Bill: O, that explains all the little bells I saw 

Re: iWatch

[Shirley Baker]

Just to make it clear, it is not called an iWatch.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
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> 
> fortunately my 10r will be paid off next month so I will use it with the 
> watch.
> - Original Message -
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> 
> Hi Robert,
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> The Apple Watch can be paired with an iPhone only. I don’t know how old you 
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> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
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>> On May 24, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
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>> 
>> Can I sync my watch with my iPad or older iPhone?
>> *
>> family Times weekly Movie times
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>> Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
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>> walking in VictoryI welcome all that are interested in joining our 
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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[Esther]

Hi, Everyone,

I swam with sea lions too and it was a lot of fun!  I didn't notice any odors 
from them either, but perhaps some do.  Take care.

EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On May 26, 2021, at 9:14 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> that's why I thought that the seaLion would be a bit of a better idea, rather 
> than a dolphin, which would have been my other swimming guide choice.
> actually, having been swimming with a seaLion, I can say from experience, 
> that they do not "stink" at all, so don't know where you got that idea from.
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Simon A Fogarty
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 2:06 AM
> Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
> - The Washington Post
> 
> And the sea lion would be able to go on land as well,
>  
>  
> They’d stink though.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 1:05 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
> - The Washington Post
> Importance: High
>  
> that might be a bit of a problem in somewhere like london for example, where 
> there ain't really any woods around.
> personally, as I love my open water swimming, a guide seaLion would suit me a 
> lot better.
> for the more land based stuff, I wish I could use my horse Lizzie, as I could 
> ride her as well, so she would be both my guide, and transport.
> think that may be a bit of a problem when needing to go somewhere by train 
> though.
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Simon A Fogarty
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:43 AM
> Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
> - The Washington Post
>  
> Now that’s a cool thought,
>  
> A gide bear!
>  
> No one would give you trouble when they see that walking the streets with you.
>  
> And bears shit in the woods!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 5:23 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
> - The Washington Post
>  
> Yes, we call them dinner bells (as a joke of course because they do work). 
> Then of course there is the pepper spray which if your are unlucky the bear 
> will take away from you and use it for seasoning 藍
>  
> Fortunately most bears aren't all that interested in eating you although 
> there are exceptions, Mummy bears of course may decide to take you out if you 
> accidently got too close to their babies and they think you are a thread and 
> there are sometimes simply bears which are aggressive and which for the most 
> part havde lost their natural fear of humans because they have gotten too 
> used to us and those are usually the ones which are more dangerous.
> My wife and I went for a walk on the trails around our town last fall and we 
> came around a bend and here was my yellow lab running full out towards a 
> black bear probably thinking that he looked like a good playmate. My previous 
> dog seemed to have his natural instincts a lot more and he always alerted me 
> when there was a bear or moose nearby. Anyways, the bear fortunately was not 
> aggressive and probably had eaten plenty of salmon in order to fatten himself 
> up for the long sleep ahead, I yelled at my dog and he braked to a stop a 
> foot or two in front of the bear and then came back. I started yelling and we 
> backed up and all was well, but even though we had just passed a group of 
> people maybe a hundred yards further back this is not an encounter I need too 
> often because it could have gone either way.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 10:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> - The Washington Post
>  
> I heard the author Bill Bryson in person once, and he was telling about his 
> adventures and the warnings he received from the outdoor equipment store 
> salesperson about walking through bear country.
>  
> Salesperson: Make lots of noise.  Wearing bells is a good way to do that.
> Bill: O, that explains all the little bells I saw in the bear poop on the 
> trail.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> - The Washington Post
>  
> First of all there are only two types of bears here, 

Re: An iPhone Question

[Richard Turner]

When you go into settings, control center, and find the reorder camera, or 
reorder flashlight buttons, you have to do the double tap and hold gesture, 
then drag your finger down the screen until you hear it go below something that 
is in the lower section that have an insert button because they are not already 
in the control center.
Then when you open the control center on its own, you will not see camera or 
flashlight,.
It appears at least with 14.6, that you cannot move or reorder anything prior 
to Screen Mirroring.
But everything else is up for grabs.



Richard
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On May 27, 2021, at 5:19 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:


The flashlight & camera can not be removed from the Lock screen, but they can 
be removed from control center by going to Settings & swiping to control center.

Donna

 I don’t know if you could remove them however, I’m sure you could move them to 
the bottom.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

On May 27, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:


Hello all,

Is there any way of removing the camera and flashlight from the control center, 
and from the lock screen?

When I go to control center, and double tap on reorder flashlight, or camera, 
they’re still there when I go back to control center.
I just read that I O S 14.6 has been released, are there any new features?
Noe



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Re: An iPhone Question

[Donna Casteen]

The flashlight & camera can not be removed from the Lock screen, but they can 
be removed from control center by going to Settings & swiping to control center.

Donna

 I don’t know if you could remove them however, I’m sure you could move them to 
the bottom.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>>> On May 27, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello all,
>>  
>> Is there any way of removing the camera and flashlight from the control 
>> center, and from the lock screen?
>>  
>> When I go to control center, and double tap on reorder flashlight, or 
>> camera, they’re still there when I go back to control center.
>> I just read that I O S 14.6 has been released, are there any new features?
>> Noe
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Question about Dice world sounds and hearing aids

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Hello,
My husband has hearing aids and plays dice world on his iPhone.  Nothing he 
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Any suggestions?
He's tried the audio routing in the rotter and that didn't work either.
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RE: Question about sound used to identify the Home screen, Control center and App switcher

[Tom Rash]

Mickey, I’m sure you thought of this, but the only thing I can think of would 
be in settings under sounds and haptics.  Good luck.

 

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mickey.quen...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about sound used to identify the Home screen, Control 
center and App switcher

 

Hi:

The problem is not that the side switch is on mute.

The problem is that when she touches the bottom of the screen to get to the  
home screen, she doesn’t here any sound to let her know  that she can slide up 
to the home or app switcher. She turned that off because she had an iPhone 8 
which had a home button. When she restored from a backup when they set up her 
iPhone 12 Pro max, that option is still turned off.

 

I can not remember the name of that sound and can not turn it back on for her.

We’ve looked in accessibility, VoiceOver, where there is a “more” button which 
describes the gestures, but it doesn’t mention the sounds.

 

From:   Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 5:58 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about sound used to identify the Home screen, Control 
center and App switcher

 

Have you / they checked the mute toggle on the side of the phone,

Left side above the volume buttns?

 

Ensure it is flicked towards the face of the phone 

To unmute if that is what the issue is.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mickey 
Quenzer

Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 10:56 am

To: viphone List 

Subject: Question about sound used to identify the Home screen, Control center 
and App switcher

 

Hello:

I have a perplexing problem.

I am working with a client who has turned off the sound that your iPhone makes 
when you slide up from the bottom or down from the top of the screen. Does 
anybody know what that sound is called and how do you turn it back on?

I’ve never had this problem before. Mine has always worked and I never wanted 
to turn it off!

 

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Re: An iPhone Question

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I don’t know if you could remove them however, I’m sure you could move them to 
the bottom.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

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>  
> Is there any way of removing the camera and flashlight from the control 
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> I just read that I O S 14.6 has been released, are there any new features?
> Noe
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An iPhone Question

[Noe Villeda]

Hello all,

 

Is there any way of removing the camera and flashlight from the control
center, and from the lock screen?

 

When I go to control center, and double tap on reorder flashlight, or
camera, they're still there when I go back to control center.

I just read that I O S 14.6 has been released, are there any new features?

Noe

 

 

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RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[h.begum99 via VIPhone]

They don’t have to though in the UK, they got an exemption in law. Other people 
can get a fine of £1000 if they are caught but people seldom get charged, I 
wish they did.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 26 May 2021 18:09
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

And there is absolutely no reason why a guide dog user shouldn't have to clean 
up after their dog. 

 

From: h.begum99 via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

Yeah but then another blind person will probably come and walk over it which is 
disgusting!!! In my area there’s lots of dog poo around on the street and you 
always feel extra apprehensive in case you step in it. Other people just go 
around or over it but of course blind people have no choice but to go through 
it if they are walking alone.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: 26 May 2021 00:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
Importance: High

 

exactly, yet another point in the robot's favour. although here in the UK, I 
believe guide dog users are exempt from having to clear it up. I know they used 
to be anyway, but not sure if that is still the case now. 

 

and yet another point, is that the robot one should take you to exactly where 
you want to go, even if you have no idea of how to get there, and no sense of 
direction, where as that would probably be a heck of a lot to ask from the 
standard guide dog. 

 

Simon 

 

 

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From: Simon A Fogarty   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:52 PM

Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

Yeah,

 

And it wont poo on the street needing you to then clean it up.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 8:58 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
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The Washington Post
Importance: High

 

possibly, but unlike the real dog, one won't have to be so concerned about it 
getting too distracted by such attention, and the robot one could very easily 
even be programmed to say something along the lines of, "buzz off, I'm trying 
to do a job here, and you are not helping" 

 

Simon 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: CJ   & AA MAY 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 9:51 PM

Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

By nature, people are curious. Anything different will attract their attention. 
Rightly or wrongly, one of the things I like about being a guide dog owner is 
that I feel the attention tends to go to the dog rather than me. A robot guide 
dog is likely to draw just as much attention.

 

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RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

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Hi folks,

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If someone would be so kind to email me privately at cont...@blindtechguys.com 
  I would be keen to chat to the developers 
of this device.

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I have done some research, and it is proving difficult to get a hold of the 
correct individuals.

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Thanks,

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www.blindtechguys.com  

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From: 'Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

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I do it daily with no problem at all and I am totally blind.

Gail

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Sent from Gail’s iPhone


On May 27, 2021, at 1:34 AM, CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:



When I was living alone, I used a garden cane to find the poo and a plastic bag 
on my hand to pick it up. I know many totally blind people who cope without 
difficulty with clearing up after their dogs. 

Alison

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com  
Sent: 27 May 2021 03:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

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What about dirt cheap laytex gloves?

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Or, are you just kidding around?

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James B

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

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It’s not difficult,

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They just find it hard cleaning the poo out from under their finger nails.

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 �

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juanhernande...@gmail.com  
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 6:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

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Why is it so hard for blind folks to pickup dog poop?

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I mean really, if you can’t pick it up, maybe a dog isn’t for you.

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From: h.begum99 via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

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Yeah but then another blind person will probably come and walk over it which is 
disgusting!!! In my area there’s lots of dog poo around on the street and you 
always feel extra apprehensive in case you step in it. Other people just go 
around or over it but of course blind people have no choice but to go through 
it if they are walking alone.

 �

 �

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goshawk on horseback
Sent: 26 May 2021 00:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
Importance: High

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exactly, yet another point in the robot's favour. although here in the UK, I 
believe guide dog users are exempt from having to  clear it  up. I know they 
used to be anyway, but not sure if that is still the case now. 

 �

and yet another point, is that the robot one should take you to exactly where 
you want to go, even if you have no idea of how to get there, and no sense of 
direction, where as that would probably be a heck of a lot to ask from the 
standard guide dog. 

 �

Simon 

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- Original Message - 

From: Simon A Fogarty   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:52 PM

Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

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Yeah,

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And it wont poo on the street needing you to then clean it up.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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goshawk on horseback
Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 8:58 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
Importance: High

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possibly, but unlike the real dog, one won't have to be so concerned about it 
getting too distracted by such attention, and the robot one could very easily 
even be programmed to say something  along the lines of,  "buzz off, I'm trying 
to do a job here, and you are not helping" 

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Simon 

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RE: ClubHouse And ClubDeck Are They Really What They Proclaim To Be

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If you would like to take this off-list, email me directly at 
cont...@blindtechguys.com  

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Happy to walk you through it over Zoom.

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Marco

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ClubHouse And ClubDeck Are They Really What They Proclaim To Be

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thanks I finally got in but there doesn't seem to be any settings to allow me   
  to choose   my sound card.

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From: marco.c...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 4:42 PM

Subject: RE: ClubHouse And ClubDeck Are They Really What They Proclaim To Be

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Hi,

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Make sure the country code is correct.

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When entering in the phone number, you shouldn’t enter the country code from 
memory in that field.

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Marco

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: ClubHouse And ClubDeck Are They Really What They Proclaim To Be

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I just installed Club deck and it claims that my phone number is incorrect. 
Even though the same number works on iOS.

- Original Message - 

From: marco.c...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 4:43 AM

Subject: RE: ClubHouse And ClubDeck Are They Really What They Proclaim To Be

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From: marco.c...@gmail.com   mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 8:43 PM
To: vi...@freelists.org  
Subject: RE: ClubHouse And ClubDeck Are They Really What They Proclaim To Be

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Hello everyone,

 �

Welcome to this massive episode, 86, of the Blind Tech Guys.

 �

Wow, what an episode this turned out to be, so if you wanted to know more about 
ClubHouse and ClubDeck, well, this is the episode for you.

 �

On this week’s episode, Marco spoke with accessibility specialist and all-round 
great guy Neil McCullough, who walked our listeners through how to use 
ClubHouse, and the developers of ClubDeck, Pierre Stanislas and Philippe 
Breuils, plus Kirt demonstrates Spotify and how accessible it is on an Android 
phone and Marco continues our settings series by running you through 
notifications and do not disturb on his Samsung S21 Ultra.

 �

To check out this week’s show, we invite you to head on over to the Blind Tech 
Guys website,    �where you can easily 
subscribe to the podcast so you don’t miss any future episodes, or you can 
simply ask your smart speaker to “play the latest episode of the Blind Tech 
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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

['Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone]

I do it daily with no problem at all and I am totally blind.
Gail

Sent from Gail’s iPhone

On May 27, 2021, at 1:34 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:


When I was living alone, I used a garden cane to find the poo and a plastic bag 
on my hand to pick it up. I know many totally blind people who cope without 
difficulty with clearing up after their dogs.
Alison
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: 27 May 2021 03:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
 
What about dirt cheap laytex gloves?
 
Or, are you just kidding around?
 
James B
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
 
It’s not difficult,
 
They just find it hard cleaning the poo out from under their finger nails.
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
juanhernande...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 6:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
 
Why is it so hard for blind folks to pickup dog poop?
 
I mean really, if you can’t pick it up, maybe a dog isn’t for you.
 
 
From: h.begum99 via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
 
Yeah but then another blind person will probably come and walk over it which is 
disgusting!!! In my area there’s lots of dog poo around on the street and you 
always feel extra apprehensive in case you step in it. Other people just go 
around or over it but of course blind people have no choice but to go through 
it if they are walking alone.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: 26 May 2021 00:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
Importance: High
 
exactly, yet another point in the robot's favour. although here in the UK, I 
believe guide dog users are exempt from having to clear it up. I know they used 
to be anyway, but not sure if that is still the case now.
 
and yet another point, is that the robot one should take you to exactly where 
you want to go, even if you have no idea of how to get there, and no sense of 
direction, where as that would probably be a heck of a lot to ask from the 
standard guide dog.
 
Simon
 
 
- Original Message -
From: Simon A Fogarty
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:52 PM
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
 
Yeah,
 
And it wont poo on the street needing you to then clean it up.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 8:58 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
Importance: High
 
possibly, but unlike the real dog, one won't have to be so concerned about it 
getting too distracted by such attention, and the robot one could very easily 
even be programmed to say something along the lines of, "buzz off, I'm trying 
to do a job here, and you are not helping"
 
Simon
 
 
- Original Message -
From: CJ & AA MAY
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
 
By nature, people are curious. Anything different will attract their attention. 
Rightly or wrongly, one of the things I like about being a guide dog owner is 
that I feel the attention tends to go to the dog rather than me. A robot guide 
dog is likely to draw just as much attention.
 
Alison
 
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Re: ClubHouse And ClubDeck Are They Really What They Proclaim To Be

[Robert Doc Wright]

thanks I finally got in but there doesn't seem to be any settings to allow me   
to choose  my sound card.
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 4:42 PM
  Subject: RE: ClubHouse And ClubDeck Are They Really What They Proclaim To Be


  Hi,

   

  Make sure the country code is correct.

   

  When entering in the phone number, you shouldn’t enter the country code from 
memory in that field.

   

  Marco

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
  Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:14 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ClubHouse And ClubDeck Are They Really What They Proclaim To Be

   

  I just installed Club deck and it claims that my phone number is incorrect. 
Even though the same number works on iOS.

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From: marco.c...@gmail.com 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 4:43 AM

Subject: RE: ClubHouse And ClubDeck Are They Really What They Proclaim To Be

 

 

 

From: marco.c...@gmail.com  
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 8:43 PM
To: vi...@freelists.org
Subject: RE: ClubHouse And ClubDeck Are They Really What They Proclaim To Be

 

Hello everyone,

 

Welcome to this massive episode, 86, of the Blind Tech Guys.

 

Wow, what an episode this turned out to be, so if you wanted to know more 
about ClubHouse and ClubDeck, well, this is the episode for you.

 

On this week’s episode, Marco spoke with accessibility specialist and 
all-round great guy Neil McCullough, who walked our listeners through how to 
use ClubHouse, and the developers of ClubDeck, Pierre Stanislas and Philippe 
Breuils, plus Kirt demonstrates Spotify and how accessible it is on an Android 
phone and Marco continues our settings series by running you through 
notifications and do not disturb on his Samsung S21 Ultra.

 

To check out this week’s show, we invite you to head on over to the Blind 
Tech Guys website,  where you can easily subscribe to the podcast so you don’t 
miss any future episodes, or you can simply ask your smart speaker to “play the 
latest episode of the Blind Tech Guys podcast”.

 

Warm regards,

 

Marco Curralejo

 

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RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[CJ & AA MAY]

When I was living alone, I used a garden cane to find the poo and a plastic bag 
on my hand to pick it up. I know many totally blind people who cope without 
difficulty with clearing up after their dogs. 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: 27 May 2021 03:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

What about dirt cheap laytex gloves?

 

Or, are you just kidding around?

 

James B

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

It’s not difficult,

 

They just find it hard cleaning the poo out from under their finger nails.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
juanhernande...@gmail.com  
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 6:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

Why is it so hard for blind folks to pickup dog poop?

 

I mean really, if you can’t pick it up, maybe a dog isn’t for you.

 

 

From: h.begum99 via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

Yeah but then another blind person will probably come and walk over it which is 
disgusting!!! In my area there’s lots of dog poo around on the street and you 
always feel extra apprehensive in case you step in it. Other people just go 
around or over it but of course blind people have no choice but to go through 
it if they are walking alone.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: 26 May 2021 00:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
Importance: High

 

exactly, yet another point in the robot's favour. although here in the UK, I 
believe guide dog users are exempt from having to clear it up. I know they used 
to be anyway, but not sure if that is still the case now. 

 

and yet another point, is that the robot one should take you to exactly where 
you want to go, even if you have no idea of how to get there, and no sense of 
direction, where as that would probably be a heck of a lot to ask from the 
standard guide dog. 

 

Simon 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Simon A Fogarty   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:52 PM

Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

Yeah,

 

And it wont poo on the street needing you to then clean it up.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 8:58 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
Importance: High

 

possibly, but unlike the real dog, one won't have to be so concerned about it 
getting too distracted by such attention, and the robot one could very easily 
even be programmed to say something along the lines of, "buzz off, I'm trying 
to do a job here, and you are not helping" 

 

Simon 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: CJ   & AA MAY 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 9:51 PM

Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

By nature, people are curious. Anything different will attract their attention. 
Rightly or wrongly, one of the things I like about being a guide dog owner is 
that I feel the attention tends to go to the dog rather than me. A robot guide 
dog is likely to draw just as much attention.

 

Alison

 

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