Re: Pause Button in Voice Memo?

[Julie Dawson]

Once you press the record button, how long do you have to record before 
stopping?

  - Original Message - 
  From: CHELA Robles 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 11:05 PM
  Subject: Re: Pause Button in Voice Memo?


  Well, I tested it, and I still see a pause button, just takes some flicking 
around. I own an 8 Plus running 14.6 of IOS.


  Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Fazil  wrote:



Hi, Group.

I am using iPhone8 with iOS14.6.

I am unable to find pause button in VoiceMemo recording like before, is it 
still there?

Thanks!




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Re: Pause Button in Voice Memo?

[CHELA Robles]

If you actually flick to where it says half screen double tap that and then 
you’ll see more options and one of those buttons is a pause button hopefully 
that helps

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:05 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Well, I tested it, and I still see a pause button, just takes some flicking 
> around. I own an 8 Plus running 14.6 of IOS.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi, Group.
>> I am using iPhone8 with iOS14.6.
>> I am unable to find pause button in VoiceMemo recording like before, is it 
>> still there?
>> Thanks!
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Re: Pause Button in Voice Memo?

[CHELA Robles]

Well, I tested it, and I still see a pause button, just takes some flicking 
around. I own an 8 Plus running 14.6 of IOS.

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> On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, Group.
> I am using iPhone8 with iOS14.6.
> I am unable to find pause button in VoiceMemo recording like before, is it 
> still there?
> Thanks!
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Re: A very strange problem

[Terry Nord]

1000 thank you’s. You fix the problem. I can’t believe it!

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On Jun 26, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:


Hello, 

This may not help but your problem sounds suspiciously like one
 I had after first upgrading to IOS 14 on my iphone 8. I was hearing two 
extraneous words, sometimes at the top of a page, sometimes between icons on 
the home screen, and always on the page number element. I say "hear" as I am a 
Voiceover-only user. 

My problem did turn out to be a labelling problem but a very unusual one. 
Somehow, and I have no idea how, a user-defined label ended up assigned to the 
page number element. This was not something I had done but nevertheless, the 
weird words I was hearing were assigned to the page number. 

To fix this I did the following...

1. Swiped down to highlight the page number element on the home screen.
2. Used the two-finger double tap and hold gesture to bring up the element 
label function. I held until I heard three beeps and then let go. This gave me 
the screen with a text field that I could edit. Sure enough, the weird words I 
was hearing were in the text field. 
3. I deleted the text in the text field, than entered one space, and then saved 
the label. 

As I say, I have no idea how those words got there but this fixed my problem. 
If somehow, the text messsage your husband is hearing ended up in this label 
field somehow, then this might account for what and where he is hearing what 
appears to be a text message but is actually a field label. 

To me, it makes sense that this condition could transfer from his iphone to his 
ipad since user-defined field labels are carried across through iCloud for 
devices using the same Apple ID. 

I hope this helps. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB
   
On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


Hi all,
I am sorry about the subject line but if you read on, you will see why.
My husband has an iPhone 6 S and yes, I realize it is an older phone but this 
is not the issue.  When I O S 14 series came out, like most every one else, he 
updated.  Now I have to back up a bit.  Back in 2016 I had brain surgery and he 
posted to a couple of groups how I was doing.  He would send texts to everyone 
and then of course delete them.  Now back to around a half year ago when I O S 
14 came out.  He upgraded and now there is one text that he sent at this time 
showing up at the top of pages, down where the page adjust bar is and other 
places as well.  It covers up things and makes it a pain to do a lot of what 
should be simple.  He has called Apple and they have thought that it might be a 
labeling issue.  They have taken everything off his phone and then they say 
that they can see it.  It is not a labeling issue.  They have said that they 
would send it up the line to the engineering team, but nothing is ever heard.  
Now last week he got an iPad and when he set it up he set it up through the 
iCloud and guess what?  That text is now on his iPad.  It must have to do with 
something in the iCloud.  He called Apple tech support and got the usual run 
around.  He is going to get a new iPhone within the next week and if he 
registers it using his info that text will be on it as well.  Where can someone 
go to get to a higher level of tech support that will help him to get this 
fixed once and for all?  If that means dumping his iCloud account and starting 
over from scratch, then so be it.  Please if anyone has any thoughts on this it 
would be appreciated. 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
 
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—Aristotle.
 
 
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Pause Button in Voice Memo?

[Fazil]

Hi, Group.

I am using iPhone8 with iOS14.6.

I am unable to find pause button in VoiceMemo recording like before, is it
still there?

Thanks!

 

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Re: A very strange problem

[Dave Clement]

Hi Kay, 

No, that was just one more weird thing about the problem. I only had to check 
the labelling on the page number element. Once I cleared that, the words 
stopped coming out in all the other places it was happening. I never figured 
out why it was occuring in other places besides the page number but one fix 
fixed them all. 

Good luck. 

Dave
 


On Jun 26, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


Hi Dave,
I'll have him look in to this.  Since this shows up all over the place, I 
assume he should double tap and hold wherever this text is showing up?  If I am 
understanding correctly, that is what you are saying?  Thanks.  

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
 
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—Aristotle.
 
 
- Original Message -
From: Dave Clement
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: A very strange problem

Hello, 

This may not help but your problem sounds suspiciously like one
 I had after first upgrading to IOS 14 on my iphone 8. I was hearing two 
extraneous words, sometimes at the top of a page, sometimes between icons on 
the home screen, and always on the page number element. I say "hear" as I am a 
Voiceover-only user. 

My problem did turn out to be a labelling problem but a very unusual one. 
Somehow, and I have no idea how, a user-defined label ended up assigned to the 
page number element. This was not something I had done but nevertheless, the 
weird words I was hearing were assigned to the page number. 

To fix this I did the following...

1. Swiped down to highlight the page number element on the home screen.
2. Used the two-finger double tap and hold gesture to bring up the element 
label function. I held until I heard three beeps and then let go. This gave me 
the screen with a text field that I could edit. Sure enough, the weird words I 
was hearing were in the text field. 
3. I deleted the text in the text field, than entered one space, and then saved 
the label. 

As I say, I have no idea how those words got there but this fixed my problem. 
If somehow, the text messsage your husband is hearing ended up in this label 
field somehow, then this might account for what and where he is hearing what 
appears to be a text message but is actually a field label. 

To me, it makes sense that this condition could transfer from his iphone to his 
ipad since user-defined field labels are carried across through iCloud for 
devices using the same Apple ID. 

I hope this helps. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB
   
On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


Hi all,
I am sorry about the subject line but if you read on, you will see why.
My husband has an iPhone 6 S and yes, I realize it is an older phone but this 
is not the issue.  When I O S 14 series came out, like most every one else, he 
updated.  Now I have to back up a bit.  Back in 2016 I had brain surgery and he 
posted to a couple of groups how I was doing.  He would send texts to everyone 
and then of course delete them.  Now back to around a half year ago when I O S 
14 came out.  He upgraded and now there is one text that he sent at this time 
showing up at the top of pages, down where the page adjust bar is and other 
places as well.  It covers up things and makes it a pain to do a lot of what 
should be simple.  He has called Apple and they have thought that it might be a 
labeling issue.  They have taken everything off his phone and then they say 
that they can see it.  It is not a labeling issue.  They have said that they 
would send it up the line to the engineering team, but nothing is ever heard.  
Now last week he got an iPad and when he set it up he set it up through the 
iCloud and guess what?  That text is now on his iPad.  It must have to do with 
something in the iCloud.  He called Apple tech support and got the usual run 
around.  He is going to get a new iPhone within the next week and if he 
registers it using his info that text will be on it as well.  Where can someone 
go to get to a higher level of tech support that will help him to get this 
fixed once and for all?  If that means dumping his iCloud account and starting 
over from scratch, then so be it.  Please if anyone has any thoughts on this it 
would be appreciated. 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
 
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Re: A very strange problem

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi Dave,
I'll have him look in to this.  Since this shows up all over the place, I 
assume he should double tap and hold wherever this text is showing up?  If I 
am understanding correctly, that is what you are saying?  Thanks.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
—Aristotle.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Clement
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 7:07 PM
  Subject: Re: A very strange problem


  Hello,


  This may not help but your problem sounds suspiciously like one
   I had after first upgrading to IOS 14 on my iphone 8. I was hearing two 
extraneous words, sometimes at the top of a page, sometimes between icons on 
the home screen, and always on the page number element. I say "hear" as I am 
a Voiceover-only user.


  My problem did turn out to be a labelling problem but a very unusual one. 
Somehow, and I have no idea how, a user-defined label ended up assigned to 
the page number element. This was not something I had done but nevertheless, 
the weird words I was hearing were assigned to the page number.


  To fix this I did the following...


  1. Swiped down to highlight the page number element on the home screen.
  2. Used the two-finger double tap and hold gesture to bring up the element 
label function. I held until I heard three beeps and then let go. This gave 
me the screen with a text field that I could edit. Sure enough, the weird 
words I was hearing were in the text field.
  3. I deleted the text in the text field, than entered one space, and then 
saved the label.


  As I say, I have no idea how those words got there but this fixed my 
problem. If somehow, the text messsage your husband is hearing ended up in 
this label field somehow, then this might account for what and where he is 
hearing what appears to be a text message but is actually a field label.


  To me, it makes sense that this condition could transfer from his iphone 
to his ipad since user-defined field labels are carried across through 
iCloud for devices using the same Apple ID.


  I hope this helps.


  Dave Clement
  Winnipeg MB

  On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:


  
  Hi all,
  I am sorry about the subject line but if you read on, you will see why.
  My husband has an iPhone 6 S and yes, I realize it is an older phone but 
this is not the issue.  When I O S 14 series came out, like most every one 
else, he updated.  Now I have to back up a bit.  Back in 2016 I had brain 
surgery and he posted to a couple of groups how I was doing.  He would send 
texts to everyone and then of course delete them.  Now back to around a half 
year ago when I O S 14 came out.  He upgraded and now there is one text that 
he sent at this time showing up at the top of pages, down where the page 
adjust bar is and other places as well.  It covers up things and makes it a 
pain to do a lot of what should be simple.  He has called Apple and they 
have thought that it might be a labeling issue.  They have taken everything 
off his phone and then they say that they can see it.  It is not a labeling 
issue.  They have said that they would send it up the line to the 
engineering team, but nothing is ever heard.  Now last week he got an iPad 
and when he set it up he set it up through the iCloud and guess what?  That 
text is now on his iPad.  It must have to do with something in the iCloud. 
He called Apple tech support and got the usual run around.  He is going to 
get a new iPhone within the next week and if he registers it using his info 
that text will be on it as well.  Where can someone go to get to a higher 
level of tech support that will help him to get this fixed once and for all? 
If that means dumping his iCloud account and starting over from scratch, 
then so be it.  Please if anyone has any thoughts on this it would be 
appreciated.

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a 
habit.
  —Aristotle.



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Re: A very strange problem

[Dave Clement]

Hello, 

This may not help but your problem sounds suspiciously like one
 I had after first upgrading to IOS 14 on my iphone 8. I was hearing two 
extraneous words, sometimes at the top of a page, sometimes between icons on 
the home screen, and always on the page number element. I say "hear" as I am a 
Voiceover-only user. 

My problem did turn out to be a labelling problem but a very unusual one. 
Somehow, and I have no idea how, a user-defined label ended up assigned to the 
page number element. This was not something I had done but nevertheless, the 
weird words I was hearing were assigned to the page number. 

To fix this I did the following...

1. Swiped down to highlight the page number element on the home screen.
2. Used the two-finger double tap and hold gesture to bring up the element 
label function. I held until I heard three beeps and then let go. This gave me 
the screen with a text field that I could edit. Sure enough, the weird words I 
was hearing were in the text field. 
3. I deleted the text in the text field, than entered one space, and then saved 
the label. 

As I say, I have no idea how those words got there but this fixed my problem. 
If somehow, the text messsage your husband is hearing ended up in this label 
field somehow, then this might account for what and where he is hearing what 
appears to be a text message but is actually a field label. 

To me, it makes sense that this condition could transfer from his iphone to his 
ipad since user-defined field labels are carried across through iCloud for 
devices using the same Apple ID. 

I hope this helps. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB
   
On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


Hi all,
I am sorry about the subject line but if you read on, you will see why.
My husband has an iPhone 6 S and yes, I realize it is an older phone but this 
is not the issue.  When I O S 14 series came out, like most every one else, he 
updated.  Now I have to back up a bit.  Back in 2016 I had brain surgery and he 
posted to a couple of groups how I was doing.  He would send texts to everyone 
and then of course delete them.  Now back to around a half year ago when I O S 
14 came out.  He upgraded and now there is one text that he sent at this time 
showing up at the top of pages, down where the page adjust bar is and other 
places as well.  It covers up things and makes it a pain to do a lot of what 
should be simple.  He has called Apple and they have thought that it might be a 
labeling issue.  They have taken everything off his phone and then they say 
that they can see it.  It is not a labeling issue.  They have said that they 
would send it up the line to the engineering team, but nothing is ever heard.  
Now last week he got an iPad and when he set it up he set it up through the 
iCloud and guess what?  That text is now on his iPad.  It must have to do with 
something in the iCloud.  He called Apple tech support and got the usual run 
around.  He is going to get a new iPhone within the next week and if he 
registers it using his info that text will be on it as well.  Where can someone 
go to get to a higher level of tech support that will help him to get this 
fixed once and for all?  If that means dumping his iCloud account and starting 
over from scratch, then so be it.  Please if anyone has any thoughts on this it 
would be appreciated. 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
 
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RE: A very strange problem

[Carolyn]

If he can go to a store to get the new phone, they might be able to help him 
there. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A very strange problem

Hi all,
I am sorry about the subject line but if you read on, you will see why.
My husband has an iPhone 6 S and yes, I realize it is an older phone but this 
is not the issue.  When I O S 14 series came out, like most every one else, he 
updated.  Now I have to back up a bit.  Back in 2016 I had brain surgery and he 
posted to a couple of groups how I was doing.  He would send texts to everyone 
and then of course delete them.  Now back to around a half year ago when I O S 
14 came out.  He upgraded and now there is one text that he sent at this time 
showing up at the top of pages, down where the page adjust bar is and other 
places as well.  It covers up things and makes it a pain to do a lot of what 
should be simple.  He has called Apple and they have thought that it might be a 
labeling issue.  They have taken everything off his phone and then they say 
that they can see it.  It is not a labeling issue.  They have said that they 
would send it up the line to the engineering team, but nothing is ever heard.  
Now last week he got an iPad and when he set it up he set it up through the 
iCloud and guess what?  That text is now on his iPad.  It must have to do with 
something in the iCloud.  He called Apple tech support and got the usual run 
around.  He is going to get a new iPhone within the next week and if he 
registers it using his info that text will be on it as well.  Where can someone 
go to get to a higher level of tech support that will help him to get this 
fixed once and for all?  If that means dumping his iCloud account and starting 
over from scratch, then so be it.  Please if anyone has any thoughts on this it 
would be appreciated. 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  
 
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RE: A very strange problem

[Richard Turner]

Under settings, Messages,

What does he have set for keep messages?
If it is set to forever, then that message will probably continue to haunt him.

Does he only have one way for people to send texts to him?  Like by his phone 
number?
You can have multiple ways like an iCloud address, a .me address, your regular 
email address, etc.
Making sure that he only has his preferred method selected under the message 
settings, Send and Receive.

I hope that helps.



Richard
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Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A very strange problem

Hi all,
I am sorry about the subject line but if you read on, you will see why.
My husband has an iPhone 6 S and yes, I realize it is an older phone but this 
is not the issue.  When I O S 14 series came out, like most every one else, he 
updated.  Now I have to back up a bit.  Back in 2016 I had brain surgery and he 
posted to a couple of groups how I was doing.  He would send texts to everyone 
and then of course delete them.  Now back to around a half year ago when I O S 
14 came out.  He upgraded and now there is one text that he sent at this time 
showing up at the top of pages, down where the page adjust bar is and other 
places as well.  It covers up things and makes it a pain to do a lot of what 
should be simple.  He has called Apple and they have thought that it might be a 
labeling issue.  They have taken everything off his phone and then they say 
that they can see it.  It is not a labeling issue.  They have said that they 
would send it up the line to the engineering team, but nothing is ever heard.  
Now last week he got an iPad and when he set it up he set it up through the 
iCloud and guess what?  That text is now on his iPad.  It must have to do with 
something in the iCloud.  He called Apple tech support and got the usual run 
around.  He is going to get a new iPhone within the next week and if he 
registers it using his info that text will be on it as well.  Where can someone 
go to get to a higher level of tech support that will help him to get this 
fixed once and for all?  If that means dumping his iCloud account and starting 
over from scratch, then so be it.  Please if anyone has any thoughts on this it 
would be appreciated.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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A very strange problem

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi all,
I am sorry about the subject line but if you read on, you will see why.
My husband has an iPhone 6 S and yes, I realize it is an older phone but 
this is not the issue.  When I O S 14 series came out, like most every one 
else, he updated.  Now I have to back up a bit.  Back in 2016 I had brain 
surgery and he posted to a couple of groups how I was doing.  He would send 
texts to everyone and then of course delete them.  Now back to around a half 
year ago when I O S 14 came out.  He upgraded and now there is one text that 
he sent at this time showing up at the top of pages, down where the page 
adjust bar is and other places as well.  It covers up things and makes it a 
pain to do a lot of what should be simple.  He has called Apple and they 
have thought that it might be a labeling issue.  They have taken everything 
off his phone and then they say that they can see it.  It is not a labeling 
issue.  They have said that they would send it up the line to the 
engineering team, but nothing is ever heard.  Now last week he got an iPad 
and when he set it up he set it up through the iCloud and guess what?  That 
text is now on his iPad.  It must have to do with something in the iCloud. 
He called Apple tech support and got the usual run around.  He is going to 
get a new iPhone within the next week and if he registers it using his info 
that text will be on it as well.  Where can someone go to get to a higher 
level of tech support that will help him to get this fixed once and for all? 
If that means dumping his iCloud account and starting over from scratch, 
then so be it.  Please if anyone has any thoughts on this it would be 
appreciated.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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Re: forgot my code to apple watch

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

You could go into the Watch app on iPhone and reset the watch - you would only 
have to enter your iPhone code. 

> On 26 Jun 2021, at 18:01, Afik Souffir  wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> Hi
>  
> I forgot my code to the apple watch.
>  
> What can I do?
>  
>  
>  
> נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10
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forgot my code to apple watch

[Afik Souffir]

Hi

I forgot my code to the apple watch.

What can I do?



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RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Exactly how I feel, they fail from time to time, but I usually get at least a 
year out of them unless I roll over them with the office chair like a few days 
ago.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

Hi Wayne,

My opinion is that the wired Apple earpods for use with the iPhone is the best 
wired alternative available for the price. I haven't experienced the quality 
issues that you have but I alternate using mine with Apple Airpods so my usage 
might not be as extensive as yours.  I find that many products can suffer in 
their quality after a number of years as manufacturers do what they can to make 
them at the lowest possible cost. But, at $19 for a new set directly from 
Apple, down from their original price of $30, I find the wired Earpods worth 
the price especially considering they were made for the iPhone and their 
separate remote and volume buttons work great with iPhone apps such as BARD 
Mobile. And I hesitate to mention fit since this is personal to each person, 
but I've never used any earbuds that fit as well nor sound as good while still 
letting in some ambient sound as the Apple Earpods.

Good luck with your shopping.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 11:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

All,
My original purpose in not buying the 'earbuds from Apple was partly price, but 
it was also their construction. Granted, these aren't as advanced as other 
models out there, not to mention the wireless choices, but I have had quite a 
few gradually or suddenly lose sound in one ear, exhibit a crackling sound 
randomly in 1 ear, or even 1 earbud set physically came apart while I was 
listening to an American football game. Like someone else has said, whenever I 
get a new device I typically buy 1 or 2 extra earbuds, if only to stockpile. My 
sighted wife has had the same issue, though I'm not sure hers has been as 
frequent as mine. Finally, 1 of the recommendations given was for a 3.5mm jack, 
but I would need a Lightning jack or chord for the earbuds. 

Kind regards, 



Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone 11

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yah that's true but I also get the sound that I need,
> 
> I could pay $35 for the apple earpods wired, But hey sony do the job.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 12:00 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> Well Simon, you get what you pay for.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I've kept headphones from the phones and iPods I've purchased 
>> over the years,
>> 
>> And just gone through those as I need them.
>> 
>> I did give a couple of pair away  but the only real issue I have with 
>> them now is that I have a couple of lightening connection versions sitting 
>> in a box, But they don't connect to my notebook when I'm running windows.
>> 
>> So I purchased a couple of sony headphones similar design but crap sound and 
>> they cost me $9 each NZ.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 5:01 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>> 
>> I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative 
>> which its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an 
>> alternative. Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to time 
>> I still think they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as sound 
>> qualiy, functionality and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If 
>> you can find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn 
>> then that would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a 
>> time and use them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on them as 
>> well, just yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled over one of the 
>> ear pieces with my office chair, ell, so much for that, if it had been one 
>> of the Apple Airpods Pro I would have been a lot more upset!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joe Orozco
>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>> 
>> I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
>> EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t solving his 
>> issue.
>> 
>> Wayne, try this alternative:
>> 
>> https://amzn.to/3w65LPX

RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Carolyn]

Definitely, Alan, I agree with you about Apple ear buds. I was fortunate enough 
to buy two pair from someone selling them on one of the buy'sell lists. 

I have my old pair from my original SE in my computer speakers. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

Hi Wayne,

My opinion is that the wired Apple earpods for use with the iPhone is the best 
wired alternative available for the price. I haven't experienced the quality 
issues that you have but I alternate using mine with Apple Airpods so my usage 
might not be as extensive as yours.  I find that many products can suffer in 
their quality after a number of years as manufacturers do what they can to make 
them at the lowest possible cost. But, at $19 for a new set directly from 
Apple, down from their original price of $30, I find the wired Earpods worth 
the price especially considering they were made for the iPhone and their 
separate remote and volume buttons work great with iPhone apps such as BARD 
Mobile. And I hesitate to mention fit since this is personal to each person, 
but I've never used any earbuds that fit as well nor sound as good while still 
letting in some ambient sound as the Apple Earpods.

Good luck with your shopping.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 11:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

All,
My original purpose in not buying the 'earbuds from Apple was partly price, but 
it was also their construction. Granted, these aren't as advanced as other 
models out there, not to mention the wireless choices, but I have had quite a 
few gradually or suddenly lose sound in one ear, exhibit a crackling sound 
randomly in 1 ear, or even 1 earbud set physically came apart while I was 
listening to an American football game. Like someone else has said, whenever I 
get a new device I typically buy 1 or 2 extra earbuds, if only to stockpile. My 
sighted wife has had the same issue, though I'm not sure hers has been as 
frequent as mine. Finally, 1 of the recommendations given was for a 3.5mm jack, 
but I would need a Lightning jack or chord for the earbuds. 

Kind regards, 



Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone 11

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yah that's true but I also get the sound that I need,
> 
> I could pay $35 for the apple earpods wired, But hey sony do the job.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 12:00 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> Well Simon, you get what you pay for.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I've kept headphones from the phones and iPods I've purchased 
>> over the years,
>> 
>> And just gone through those as I need them.
>> 
>> I did give a couple of pair away  but the only real issue I have with 
>> them now is that I have a couple of lightening connection versions sitting 
>> in a box, But they don't connect to my notebook when I'm running windows.
>> 
>> So I purchased a couple of sony headphones similar design but crap sound and 
>> they cost me $9 each NZ.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 5:01 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>> 
>> I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative 
>> which its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an 
>> alternative. Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to time 
>> I still think they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as sound 
>> qualiy, functionality and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If 
>> you can find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn 
>> then that would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a 
>> time and use them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on them as 
>> well, just yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled over one of the 
>> ear pieces with my office chair, ell, so much for that, if it had been one 
>> of the Apple Airpods Pro I would have been a lot more upset!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joe Orozco
>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>> 
>> I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
>> EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t 

RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Wayne,

My opinion is that the wired Apple earpods for use with the iPhone is the best 
wired alternative available for the price. I haven't experienced the quality 
issues that you have but I alternate using mine with Apple Airpods so my usage 
might not be as extensive as yours.  I find that many products can suffer in 
their quality after a number of years as manufacturers do what they can to make 
them at the lowest possible cost. But, at $19 for a new set directly from 
Apple, down from their original price of $30, I find the wired Earpods worth 
the price especially considering they were made for the iPhone and their 
separate remote and volume buttons work great with iPhone apps such as BARD 
Mobile. And I hesitate to mention fit since this is personal to each person, 
but I've never used any earbuds that fit as well nor sound as good while still 
letting in some ambient sound as the Apple Earpods.

Good luck with your shopping.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 11:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

All,
My original purpose in not buying the 'earbuds from Apple was partly price, but 
it was also their construction. Granted, these aren't as advanced as other 
models out there, not to mention the wireless choices, but I have had quite a 
few gradually or suddenly lose sound in one ear, exhibit a crackling sound 
randomly in 1 ear, or even 1 earbud set physically came apart while I was 
listening to an American football game. Like someone else has said, whenever I 
get a new device I typically buy 1 or 2 extra earbuds, if only to stockpile. My 
sighted wife has had the same issue, though I'm not sure hers has been as 
frequent as mine. Finally, 1 of the recommendations given was for a 3.5mm jack, 
but I would need a Lightning jack or chord for the earbuds. 

Kind regards, 



Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone 11

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yah that's true but I also get the sound that I need,
> 
> I could pay $35 for the apple earpods wired, But hey sony do the job.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 12:00 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> Well Simon, you get what you pay for.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I've kept headphones from the phones and iPods I've purchased 
>> over the years,
>> 
>> And just gone through those as I need them.
>> 
>> I did give a couple of pair away  but the only real issue I have with 
>> them now is that I have a couple of lightening connection versions sitting 
>> in a box, But they don't connect to my notebook when I'm running windows.
>> 
>> So I purchased a couple of sony headphones similar design but crap sound and 
>> they cost me $9 each NZ.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 5:01 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>> 
>> I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative 
>> which its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an 
>> alternative. Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to time 
>> I still think they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as sound 
>> qualiy, functionality and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If 
>> you can find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn 
>> then that would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a 
>> time and use them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on them as 
>> well, just yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled over one of the 
>> ear pieces with my office chair, ell, so much for that, if it had been one 
>> of the Apple Airpods Pro I would have been a lot more upset!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joe Orozco
>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>> 
>> I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
>> EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t solving his 
>> issue.
>> 
>> Wayne, try this alternative:
>> 
>> https://amzn.to/3w65LPX
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
 On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>> I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the 
>>> issue you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod once, 
>>> and it was replaced without hassle.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi Wayne,
 
 I have not looked in quite 

RE: orbit reader 20/password fileds

[Richard Turner]

That might work with Humanware displays, but not Orbit displays as far as I 
know.
Humanware I think were the ones who introduced that layered keystroke in their 
keysoft system.



Richard
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Web site: www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 6:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds

Would a Space + U followed by the letter you want capitalized help?
So, for a capital R, you would first use U with Space followed by the letter r. 
I hope that helps?--Joe

On 6/26/21, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> How do I represent a capital letter in a password field?
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Richard Turner
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 7:09 PM
>   Subject: Re: orbit reader 20
>
>
>   You will have to enter it in computer 8 dot braille; and I'm not 
> sure what happens when a symbol takes two cells or more.
>
>
>
>   Richard
>
>
>
>
>   Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
> 
> wrote:
>
>
> 
> A subject would have been helpful.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: orbit reader 20
>
>
>
> I am having problems brailling my password on the iPhone. It seems 
> to be having problems with special characters such as (~ !)  in the password.
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Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds

[Joe Orozco]

Would a Space + U followed by the letter you want capitalized help?
So, for a capital R, you would first use U with Space followed by the
letter r. I hope that helps?--Joe

On 6/26/21, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> How do I represent a capital letter in a password field?
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Richard Turner
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 7:09 PM
>   Subject: Re: orbit reader 20
>
>
>   You will have to enter it in computer 8 dot braille; and I'm not sure what
> happens when a symbol takes two cells or more.
>
>
>
>   Richard
>
>
>
>
>   Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
> wrote:
>
>
> 
> A subject would have been helpful.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: orbit reader 20
>
>
>
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RE: Installing MacOs on windows laptop

[Christopher Chaltain]

There’s lots of information on the web on how to do this. Just perform a web 
search. You can also search on Hackintosh. If this is important to you though, 
you may want to check the EULA for MacOS to see if you’re violating any 
conditions set by Apple.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 7:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Installing MacOs on windows laptop

Theoretically yes,

Practically I don’t believe it can be done.

I do know that it was done a number of years back by someone on a I believe an 
Acer triple E notebook, but there was a lot of work done to make it work for 
the people involved.

However that’s going back the best part of 10 years.
And now I think you’d be pushing it.


However no reason why you couldn’t try it,

But good luck,

Or check out the likes of VM Work station or virtual box, but again pushing 
brown stuff up hill with toothpick I think!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Afik 
Souffir
Sent: Friday, 25 June 2021 6:49 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Installing MacOs on windows laptop

Hi,
Can i install mac os on a windows laptop?
If so, how?
Afik
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Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Gerardo Corripio]

Which makes me wonder, is there an adapter to be able to use a lightning on a 
3.5? Let's say that I'd want to use the wired iPhone earbuds that are 
lightning, on a Stream, or other device?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 26 jun 2021, a la(s) 12:49 a.m., Sieghard Weitzel  
> escribió:
> 
> The 3.5mm to Lightning issue could be resolved with a $10 or less adapter.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 9:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> All,
> My original purpose in not buying the 'earbuds from Apple was partly price, 
> but it was also their construction. Granted, these aren't as advanced as 
> other models out there, not to mention the wireless choices, but I have had 
> quite a few gradually or suddenly lose sound in one ear, exhibit a crackling 
> sound randomly in 1 ear, or even 1 earbud set physically came apart while I 
> was listening to an American football game. Like someone else has said, 
> whenever I get a new device I typically buy 1 or 2 extra earbuds, if only to 
> stockpile. My sighted wife has had the same issue, though I'm not sure hers 
> has been as frequent as mine. Finally, 1 of the recommendations given was for 
> a 3.5mm jack, but I would need a Lightning jack or chord for the earbuds. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent from my iPhone 11
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yah that's true but I also get the sound that I need,
>> 
>> I could pay $35 for the apple earpods wired, But hey sony do the job.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 12:00 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>> 
>> Well Simon, you get what you pay for.
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
 On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah I've kept headphones from the phones and iPods I've purchased 
>>> over the years,
>>> 
>>> And just gone through those as I need them.
>>> 
>>> I did give a couple of pair away  but the only real issue I have with 
>>> them now is that I have a couple of lightening connection versions sitting 
>>> in a box, But they don't connect to my notebook when I'm running windows.
>>> 
>>> So I purchased a couple of sony headphones similar design but crap sound 
>>> and they cost me $9 each NZ.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 5:01 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>>> 
>>> I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative 
>>> which its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an 
>>> alternative. Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to 
>>> time I still think they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as 
>>> sound qualiy, functionality and not blocking out external noise are 
>>> concerned. If you can find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, 
>>> Amazon or GroupOn then that would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just 
>>> buy 4 or 5 at a time and use them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty 
>>> hard on them as well, just yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled 
>>> over one of the ear pieces with my office chair, ell, so much for that, if 
>>> it had been one of the Apple Airpods Pro I would have been a lot more upset!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Joe Orozco
>>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>>> 
>>> I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
>>> EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t solving 
>>> his issue.
>>> 
>>> Wayne, try this alternative:
>>> 
>>> https://amzn.to/3w65LPX
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>> 
> On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
 I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the 
 issue you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod once, 
 and it was replaced without hassle.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 
> On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> I have not looked in quite a while, however, Groupon used to have 
> official Apple earbuds for approximately $13 a pair, with a slight 
> discount on purchase of multiple pairs e.g. $11 each for purchasing
> 3 pairs.
> 
> Joe
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:12 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Wired 

Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds

[Robert Doc Wright]

How do I represent a capital letter in a password field? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 7:09 PM
  Subject: Re: orbit reader 20


  You will have to enter it in computer 8 dot braille; and I'm not sure what 
happens when a symbol takes two cells or more. 



  Richard 




  Software means never having to say you're finished 




On Jun 25, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


 
A subject would have been helpful.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: orbit reader 20



I am having problems brailling my password on the iPhone. It seems to be 
having problems with special characters such as (~ !)  in the password.

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