RE: Guess I have more configuring to do Was: Reading notifications on the lock screen

[Katrina Anderson]

First of all, I’m pleased that my ramblings somehow proved helpful to Donna and 
Debbie.  Mohammad, maybe Donna or Debbie can describe what worked for them, but 
honestly, I didn’t exactly provide step by step instructions.  If you read my 
prior message that is way down below, you will find that I stumbled into 
setting things up so that Siri reads notifications on the lock screen.  In the 
event it proved helpful, I was just sharing my experience, but honestly I don’t 
feel confident enough to advise anybody about this.  However, Debbie/Donna used 
my description of the journey through settings to get Siri to read 
notifications, so you might scroll way down there and read what I wrote, and 
hopefully it will prove helpful to you as well.
 
Katrina
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Guess I have more configuring to do Was: Reading notifications on 
the lock screen
 
I am sorry, I could not pay attention to this thread earlier, may I have those 
instructions too, please?
Thanks!


On Nov 10, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Debbie Downey mailto:debdow...@tampabay.rr.com> > wrote:
 
HI Katrina,
 
Thanks so much for all of your hard work.
 
I kind of followed your directions to the best of my ability and so far both my 
husband and I are now receiving notifications read aloud by Siri on the locked 
screen!
 
I’m still going to write to Apple Accessibility! Like you said, this shouldn’t 
have to be so complex; why should we have to do their work for them?
 
Debbie
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Katrina Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Guess I have more configuring to do Was: Reading notifications on the 
lock screen
 
It appears my work isn’t done yet. I had written a message for Apple 
Accessibility, and was seconds from sending it, when a notification came in to 
the lock screen.  Atone announced the notification had arrived and Siri only 
spoke when I swiped right, and that is when the notification was actually read. 
 
 
Back to the drawing board, I decided to look at the various settings related to 
the News app, because earlier a News notification was read by Siri and the 
notification that just arrived and didn’t speak was also from the News app.  
 
I found News was set up to receive notifications, including on the lock screen, 
under Notifications.  Under Accessibility/Siri, just to the right of “Announce 
Notifications on Speaker”, I clicked on “Announce Notifications”.  After 
confirming News was set to on, I clicked on “News and found “Time Sensitive 
Notifications” was selected for what would be announced.  I changed the setting 
to “Always”, and hopefully notifications from News will all now be spoken/read 
on the lock screen.  I will now have to go through all the other apps to see if 
they are set correctly.  My goodness, does this have to be so complex?  
 
I of course updated the message to Apple Accessibility before sending it.
 
Katrina
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Katrina Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Reading notifications on the lock screen
 
I just realized Chris and CJ were replying to Debbie’s message, rather than 
mine, so perhaps my input isn’t needed.  However, I may finally have stumbled 
into a positive direction and thought I’d share.  Two notifications just came 
in, and they were not only announced, but all of the notifications were read by 
Siri.  Unlike I feared, VO and Siri didn’t speak at the same time.  
 
I’ll attempt to describe how I stumbled onto where I currently am.  As 
mentioned in prior messages, I had been reluctant to turn on the setting for 
Siri to announce notifications, hoping to prevent hearing VO and Siri speaking 
at the same time, so asked if I should turn on the setting for Siri to announce 
notifications.  An answer wasn’t provided, so I decided to turn on the setting, 
under notifications, for Siri to announce notifications; it didn’t make a 
difference.  I also tried turning on the setting, under Siri Suggestions, to 
announce notifications just for kicks; no change.
 
After confirming the settings under Notifications Chris and CJ mentioned are 
correct, I systematically turned on/off anything under Notifications that 
relates to Siri and notifications.  Nothing I did caused notifications to be 
read on the lock screen.
 
So, I went back to the settings under Siri/Search.  Once again, I 
systematically turned on/off settings; nothing changed.  I then went back to 
the Accessibility settings, under Siri, and proceeded in the same fashion; 
nothing changed.  I then decided to go back and turn on 

How to pair hearing aids with the iPhone?

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi all,
That is the question.  How can I pair my Resound hearing aids with my 
iPhone.  I went in to accessibility and then to hearing devices and saw that 
the phone was searching.  I don't know if Resound is an MFI device or if I 
have to go to Bluetooth to set them up.  I did not put my aids in to pairing 
mode to try it out though.  and then, the next question.  Pair both or just 
one?  If anyone knows, please let me know also.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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Doordash broke acccessibility again

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Well it worked fine Tuesday. Looks like an upgrade to the app came in and
accessibility is broken. Its freezing and you cannot choose a tab, or pick a
store. Also some weirdly labeled elements. Ugg.

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RE: What Does 'Confirm with Side-Button' Mean?

[Christopher Chaltain]

It says:

Confirm with side button.
Double click to install.

Which works for me.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marty 
Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 5:57 PM
To: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: What Does 'Confirm with Side-Button' Mean?

If that is so, then why doesn't it say, "

rapidly double-click the power button on the right-hand side of the iPhone?"  
How else are we supposed to know that?

On 11/10/2022 1:42 PM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote:
> Confirm with side button is an instruction for you to rapidly double-click 
> the power button on the right-hand side of the iPhone. This triggers Face ID 
> and confirms you want the app!
>
> Dictation and a Learner’s Braille may lead to surprises in my messages…
>
>> On 10 Nov 2022, at 19:39, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, group.
>> What does ‘Confirm with side-button’ mean?
>> I am asking this is because Voiceover asked me for this when I tried to 
>> download Google Calendar.
>> How can I confirm this, please?
>> I have iPhone12 with iOS16X.
>> Thanks!
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Re: Guess I have more configuring to do Was: Reading notifications on the lock screen

[Mohammad Fazil]

I am sorry, I could not pay attention to this thread earlier, may I have those 
instructions too, please?
Thanks!
On Nov 10, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:

HI Katrina,

Thanks so much for all of your hard work.

I kind of followed your directions to the best of my ability and so far both my 
husband and I are now receiving notifications read aloud by Siri on the locked 
screen!

I’m still going to write to Apple Accessibility! Like you said, this shouldn’t 
have to be so complex; why should we have to do their work for them?

Debbie

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Katrina 
Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Guess I have more configuring to do Was: Reading notifications on the 
lock screen

It appears my work isn’t done yet. I had written a message for Apple 
Accessibility, and was seconds from sending it, when a notification came in to 
the lock screen.  Atone announced the notification had arrived and Siri only 
spoke when I swiped right, and that is when the notification was actually read.

Back to the drawing board, I decided to look at the various settings related to 
the News app, because earlier a News notification was read by Siri and the 
notification that just arrived and didn’t speak was also from the News app.

I found News was set up to receive notifications, including on the lock screen, 
under Notifications.  Under Accessibility/Siri, just to the right of “Announce 
Notifications on Speaker”, I clicked on “Announce Notifications”.  After 
confirming News was set to on, I clicked on “News and found “Time Sensitive 
Notifications” was selected for what would be announced.  I changed the setting 
to “Always”, and hopefully notifications from News will all now be spoken/read 
on the lock screen.  I will now have to go through all the other apps to see if 
they are set correctly.  My goodness, does this have to be so complex?

I of course updated the message to Apple Accessibility before sending it.

Katrina

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Katrina Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading notifications on the lock screen

I just realized Chris and CJ were replying to Debbie’s message, rather than 
mine, so perhaps my input isn’t needed.  However, I may finally have stumbled 
into a positive direction and thought I’d share.  Two notifications just came 
in, and they were not only announced, but all of the notifications were read by 
Siri.  Unlike I feared, VO and Siri didn’t speak at the same time.

I’ll attempt to describe how I stumbled onto where I currently am.  As 
mentioned in prior messages, I had been reluctant to turn on the setting for 
Siri to announce notifications, hoping to prevent hearing VO and Siri speaking 
at the same time, so asked if I should turn on the setting for Siri to announce 
notifications.  An answer wasn’t provided, so I decided to turn on the setting, 
under notifications, for Siri to announce notifications; it didn’t make a 
difference.  I also tried turning on the setting, under Siri Suggestions, to 
announce notifications just for kicks; no change.

After confirming the settings under Notifications Chris and CJ mentioned are 
correct, I systematically turned on/off anything under Notifications that 
relates to Siri and notifications.  Nothing I did caused notifications to be 
read on the lock screen.

So, I went back to the settings under Siri/Search.  Once again, I 
systematically turned on/off settings; nothing changed.  I then went back to 
the Accessibility settings, under Siri, and proceeded in the same fashion; 
nothing changed.  I then decided to go back and turn on a lot of settings under 
Notifications, Siri/Search & Accessibility/Siri.  The last setting I activated 
was “Announce Notifications on Speaker”.  Shortly after, Siri announced the 
arrival of a notification and read the entire thing.  Was the key to turn on 
“Announce Notifications on Speaker”?  I’m not sure since I had that setting 
turned on at least once before.  It seems to me that the secret is to have a 
number of settings configured properly, and not just settings under 
notifications; kind of like a puzzle.  Maybe when I went through the settings, 
to set up the new phone, I changed a default setting that caused notifications 
to not be read on the lock screen.

So, because Siri is giving me what I want, maybe I incorrectly was focused on 
notifications being read by VO; maybe Siri always read my notifications.  By 
the way, I set up two very different voices for VO and Siri, so I would know 
who was speaking.

I will of course share all of this with Apple Accessibility.

Katrina
From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, November 

Re: What Does 'Confirm with Side-Button' Mean?

[Marty Hutchings]

If that is so, then why doesn't it say, "

rapidly double-click the power button on the right-hand side of the iPhone?"  
How else are we supposed to know that?

On 11/10/2022 1:42 PM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote:

Confirm with side button is an instruction for you to rapidly double-click the 
power button on the right-hand side of the iPhone. This triggers Face ID and 
confirms you want the app!

Dictation and a Learner’s Braille may lead to surprises in my messages…


On 10 Nov 2022, at 19:39, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:

Hi, group.
What does ‘Confirm with side-button’ mean?
I am asking this is because Voiceover asked me for this when I tried to 
download Google Calendar.
How can I confirm this, please?
I have iPhone12 with iOS16X.
Thanks!

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RE: Guess I have more configuring to do Was: Reading notifications on the lock screen

[Debbie Downey]

HI Katrina,

 

Thanks so much for all of your hard work.

 

I kind of followed your directions to the best of my ability and so far both my 
husband and I are now receiving notifications read aloud by Siri on the locked 
screen!

 

I’m still going to write to Apple Accessibility! Like you said, this shouldn’t 
have to be so complex; why should we have to do their work for them?

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Katrina 
Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Guess I have more configuring to do Was: Reading notifications on the 
lock screen

 

It appears my work isn’t done yet. I had written a message for Apple 
Accessibility, and was seconds from sending it, when a notification came in to 
the lock screen.  A tone announced the notification had arrived and Siri only 
spoke when I swiped right, and that is when the notification was actually read. 
 

 

Back to the drawing board, I decided to look at the various settings related to 
the News app, because earlier a News notification was read by Siri and the 
notification that just arrived and didn’t speak was also from the News app.  

 

I found News was set up to receive notifications, including on the lock screen, 
under Notifications.  Under Accessibility/Siri, just to the right of “Announce 
Notifications on Speaker”, I clicked on “Announce Notifications”.  After 
confirming News was set to on, I clicked on “News and found “Time Sensitive 
Notifications” was selected for what would be announced.  I changed the setting 
to “Always”, and hopefully notifications from News will all now be spoken/read 
on the lock screen.  I will now have to go through all the other apps to see if 
they are set correctly.  My goodness, does this have to be so complex?  

 

I of course updated the message to Apple Accessibility before sending it.

 

Katrina

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Katrina Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Reading notifications on the lock screen

 

I just realized Chris and CJ were replying to Debbie’s message, rather than 
mine, so perhaps my input isn’t needed.  However, I may finally have stumbled 
into a positive direction and thought I’d share.  Two notifications just came 
in, and they were not only announced, but all of the notifications were read by 
Siri.  Unlike I feared, VO and Siri didn’t speak at the same time.  

 

I’ll attempt to describe how I stumbled onto where I currently am.  As 
mentioned in prior messages, I had been reluctant to turn on the setting for 
Siri to announce notifications, hoping to prevent hearing VO and Siri speaking 
at the same time, so asked if I should turn on the setting for Siri to announce 
notifications.  An answer wasn’t provided, so I decided to turn on the setting, 
under notifications, for Siri to announce notifications; it didn’t make a 
difference.  I also tried turning on the setting, under Siri Suggestions, to 
announce notifications just for kicks; no change.

 

After confirming the settings under Notifications Chris and CJ mentioned are 
correct, I systematically turned on/off anything under Notifications that 
relates to Siri and notifications.  Nothing I did caused notifications to be 
read on the lock screen.

 

So, I went back to the settings under Siri/Search.  Once again, I 
systematically turned on/off settings; nothing changed.  I then went back to 
the Accessibility settings, under Siri, and proceeded in the same fashion; 
nothing changed.  I then decided to go back and turn on a lot of settings under 
Notifications, Siri/Search & Accessibility/Siri.  The last setting I activated 
was “Announce Notifications on Speaker”.  Shortly after, Siri announced the 
arrival of a notification and read the entire thing.  Was the key to turn on 
“Announce Notifications on Speaker”?  I’m not sure since I had that setting 
turned on at least once before.  It seems to me that the secret is to have a 
number of settings configured properly, and not just settings under 
notifications; kind of like a puzzle.  Maybe when I went through the settings, 
to set up the new phone, I changed a default setting that caused notifications 
to not be read on the lock screen.

 

So, because Siri is giving me what I want, maybe I incorrectly was focused on 
notifications being read by VO; maybe Siri always read my notifications.  By 
the way, I set up two very different voices for VO and Siri, so I would know 
who was speaking. 

 

I will of course share all of this with Apple Accessibility.

 

Katrina

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: 

Re: What Does 'Confirm with Side-Button' Mean?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Confirm with side button is an instruction for you to rapidly double-click the 
power button on the right-hand side of the iPhone. This triggers Face ID and 
confirms you want the app!

Dictation and a Learner’s Braille may lead to surprises in my messages…

> On 10 Nov 2022, at 19:39, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hi, group.
> What does ‘Confirm with side-button’ mean?
> I am asking this is because Voiceover asked me for this when I tried to 
> download Google Calendar.
> How can I confirm this, please?
> I have iPhone12 with iOS16X.
> Thanks!
> 
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What Does 'Confirm with Side-Button' Mean?

[Mohammad Fazil]

Hi, group.
What does ‘Confirm with side-button’ mean?
I am asking this is because Voiceover asked me for this when I tried to 
download Google Calendar.
How can I confirm this, please?
I have iPhone12 with iOS16X.
Thanks!

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RE: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You may find a glass screen protector useful. They are a bit thicker and mine 
has a good-size cutout at the top where the earpiece speaker and camera is and 
I can put my finger just on the bottom edge of that and slide down for the 
control centre or further down for notification centre. Same way I can put my 
finger just on the bottom edge of it and I hear the little pop sound which 
indicates you can now slide up for going back to the home screen or slide up 
further to bring up app switcher.
By the way, if you put your finger near the top to look for a back button and 
control centre comes up this means you are putting your finger too high and 
then you must be swiping down a bit since control centre will not come up 
unless you swipe down from the top.
As I said in my other post, try a single touch with 4 fingers in the top half 
of the screen, if a back button is present at the top left this should also 
take you there.
Also remember the Voiceover practice area in Settings > Accessibility > 
Voiceover, it's a good place to go and practice your swipes and taps.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 8:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions

Katrina.  Here's a tip about using the gestures to get to the control center.  
Go to the top of your phone where you feel kind of a straight line and kind of 
an indentation on the phone.  This is your speaker grill for your earpiece 
speaker.  If you slide your finger down from this point, you should get to your 
control center.  Good luck.

On 11/7/22, Katrina Anderson  wrote:
> Thanks Joshua for the tip about not pressing too hard; it appears I 
> may have been a bit heavy handed, so I'm trying to do better in that 
> regard.  As I wrote in my reply to Sandy, things are getting some 
> easier, and the scrub gesture helps so much.  It may take me and my 
> old/tired hands a minute to get there, but I look forward to having the skill 
> you have with the phone.
>
> Katrina
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 4:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions
>
> I recently upgraded from an iPhone 8 to the 13 pro max and I don't 
> miss the home button one bit.  I have very little trouble going from 
> home to app switcher.  One thing that helped me get a hang of the home 
> button gesture, is don't press your finger so hard on the screen when 
> doing the gesture.
> Give the screen a very light touch with just a little bit of pressure.
> If you press very hard on the screen all you'll do is be sliding your 
> finger around on the screen.  I mostly use a braille bluetooth 
> keyboard called the Hable One so I don't have any trouble backing out 
> of menus.  However, even if I'm not using my keyboard, I can back out 
> of menus just fine with no issues.
>
> On 11/7/22, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Katriona,
>>
>> A couple  of weeks ago, I made the same  upgrade as you and can 
>> identify with your frustrations. First thing I did was set "home" as 
>> the macro for a double tap on the back of the phone. When I am in the 
>> control centre, especially by mistake, I find that I can get out by a 
>> scrub gesture. Mind you, you have to wait a second or two for it to 
>> move you out of the control centre.
>>
>> I too, have to make several attempts to use the bottom of screen 
>> and slide up, for the home button, So, rarely use it. Remember Siri can help.
>> Instead of using the app switcher to go to another running app, I 
>> just reopen it using Siri.
>>
>> HTH a bit, and I am relying upon the fact that many here say that 
>> they don't miss the home button. I have always found the VO gestures 
>> intuitive and am disappointed with the one we have to use for Home 
>> and App Switcher.
>>
>> Mind you, I do think this is a much superior phone, especially, 
>> the camera functionality, than the 8.
>>
>> Sandy and Z.
>>
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>
>>> On 7 Nov 2022, at 20:14, Katrina Anderson 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I replaced my iPhone 8 yesterday with a 14 Pro 256 and IOS 16 iPhone.1.
>>> Although I am managing to deal with no home button, it certainly 
>>> isn’t easy yet.  Although I will probably have additional questions 
>>> in the future, for now, I would appreciate any answers or thoughts 
>>> about the
>>> following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m not able to sign in to the Instacart app.  After entering the 
>>> E-mail address and password, there appears to be a captcha, 
>>> including a visual and audio challenge.  I click on the audio option 
>>> and then play; hear the challenge, but then I can’t move forward.  
>>> There is a field to enter what I heard; I double tap, as VO says to 
>>> do, and nothing; 

RE: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Correct, pressure makes no difference although pressing down hard while you are 
trying to slide up smoothly certainly isn't intuitive for me, but I just tried 
it by touching at the bottom and pressing down just about as hard as I could 
and still slide my finger and the app switcher came up just fine. Having said 
this, a light touch is perfectly fine here.

I find at least with the case I have which isn't really very thick that back 
tap does not work reliably for me. But you can also assign gestures to various 
single, double, triple and quadruple finger taps and slides.
You may want to go to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Commands > Touch 
Gestures and swipe through the list and see if any taps are unassigned and you 
could then for example assign "move to first item" to a particular tap.
In my case, I have this assigned to a single finger triple tap and I use a 
single finger quadruple tap for "move to last item". Since the "back" button is 
always the first item at the top left of the screen I can do a single finger 
triple tap anywhere I want to find it and it will jump there. Of course you may 
be OK with the gesture which is already in plaace for that, a single tap with 4 
fingers in the top half of the screen or, to go to the last item, do a single 
tap with 4 fingers on the bottom half of the screen. The reason why I assigned 
other gestures for these two actions is because I lost my sight in an accident 
involving explosives a very long time ago and I also had very bad hand injuries 
and only have 3 fingers on each hand so a 4-finger tap for me means I need to 
use 2 hands and it's not at all quick and easy to do and for the same reason 
braille input is out of the picture for me.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 5:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions

I agree it takes some practice and getting used to, but I never found that 
pressure made any difference, unless of course too much pressure kept the 
gesture from being smooth or too little pressure meant it didn't register.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions

It does take a bit of practice.  Your touch can't be completely light with no 
pressure at all, but just a very small amount of pressure.  To much pressure 
deffinately does not work.  I never did figure out how to do the scrub gesture.

On 11/7/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Amen to that, Joshua, don't press, just flick.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 4:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions
>
> I recently upgraded from an iPhone 8 to the 13 pro max and I don't 
> miss the home button one bit.  I have very little trouble going from 
> home to app switcher.  One thing that helped me get a hang of the home 
> button gesture, is don't press your finger so hard on the screen when doing 
> the gesture.
> Give the screen a very light touch with just a little bit of pressure.
> If you press very hard on the screen all you'll do is be sliding your 
> finger around on the screen.  I mostly use a braille bluetooth 
> keyboard called the Hable One so I don't have any trouble backing out 
> of menus.  However, even if I'm not using my keyboard, I can back out 
> of menus just fine with no issues.
>
> On 11/7/22, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Katriona,
>>
>> A couple  of weeks ago, I made the same  upgrade as you and can 
>> identify with your frustrations. First thing I did was set "home" as 
>> the macro for a double tap on the back of the phone. When I am in the 
>> control centre, especially by mistake, I find that I can get out by a 
>> scrub gesture. Mind you, you have to wait a second or two for it to 
>> move you out of the control centre.
>>
>> I too, have to make several attempts to use the bottom of screen 
>> and slide up, for the home button, So, rarely use it. Remember Siri 
>> can help.
>> Instead of using the app switcher to go to another running app, I 
>> just reopen it using Siri.
>>
>> HTH a bit, and I am relying upon the fact that many here say that 
>> they don't miss the home button. I have always found the VO gestures 
>> intuitive and am disappointed with the one we have to use for Home 
>> and App Switcher.
>>
>> Mind you, I do think this is a much superior phone, especially, 
>> the camera functionality, than the 8.
>>
>> Sandy and Z.
>>
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>
>>> On 7 Nov 2022, at 20:14, Katrina Anderson 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 

Re: Guess I have more configuring to do Was: Reading notifications on the lock screen

[Donna Casteen]

Katrina,You win the Apple Award today!!! Your instructions to get Siri to speak notifications on the lock screen worked perfectly!! Thanks for restoring my sanity! DonnaIt appears my work isn’t done yet. I had written a message for Apple Accessibility, and was seconds from sending it, when a notification came in to the lock screen.  A tone announced the notification had arrived and Siri only spoke when I swiped right, and that is when the notification was actually read.  Back to the drawing board, I decided to look at the various settings related to the News app, because earlier a News notification was read by Siri and the notification that just arrived and didn’t speak was also from the News app.   I found News was set up to receive notifications, including on the lock screen, under Notifications.  Under Accessibility/Siri, just to the right of “Announce Notifications on Speaker”, I clicked on “Announce Notifications”.  After confirming News was set to on, I clicked on “News and found “Time Sensitive Notifications” was selected for what would be announced.  I changed the setting to “Always”, and hopefully notifications from News will all now be spoken/read on the lock screen.  I will now have to go through all the other apps to see if they are set correctly.  My goodness, does this have to be so complex?   I of course updated the message to Apple Accessibility before sending it. Katrina From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Katrina AndersonSent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 11:19 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Reading notifications on the lock screen I just realized Chris and CJ were replying to Debbie’s message, rather than mine, so perhaps my input isn’t needed.  However, I may finally have stumbled into a positive direction and thought I’d share.  Two notifications just came in, and they were not only announced, but all of the notifications were read by Siri.  Unlike I feared, VO and Siri didn’t speak at the same time.   I’ll attempt to describe how I stumbled onto where I currently am.  As mentioned in prior messages, I had been reluctant to turn on the setting for Siri to announce notifications, hoping to prevent hearing VO and Siri speaking at the same time, so asked if I should turn on the setting for Siri to announce notifications.  An answer wasn’t provided, so I decided to turn on the setting, under notifications, for Siri to announce notifications; it didn’t make a difference.  I also tried turning on the setting, under Siri Suggestions, to announce notifications just for kicks; no change. After confirming the settings under Notifications Chris and CJ mentioned are correct, I systematically turned on/off anything under Notifications that relates to Siri and notifications.  Nothing I did caused notifications to be read on the lock screen. So, I went back to the settings under Siri/Search.  Once again, I systematically turned on/off settings; nothing changed.  I then went back to the Accessibility settings, under Siri, and proceeded in the same fashion; nothing changed.  I then decided to go back and turn on a lot of settings under Notifications, Siri/Search & Accessibility/Siri.  The last setting I activated was “Announce Notifications on Speaker”.  Shortly after, Siri announced the arrival of a notification and read the entire thing.  Was the key to turn on “Announce Notifications on Speaker”?  I’m not sure since I had that setting turned on at least once before.  It seems to me that the secret is to have a number of settings configured properly, and not just settings under notifications; kind of like a puzzle.  Maybe when I went through the settings, to set up the new phone, I changed a default setting that caused notifications to not be read on the lock screen. So, because Siri is giving me what I want, maybe I incorrectly was focused on notifications being read by VO; maybe Siri always read my notifications.  By the way, I set up two very different voices for VO and Siri, so I would know who was speaking.  I will of course share all of this with Apple Accessibility. KatrinaFrom: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Christopher ChaltainSent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 9:18 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Reading notifications on the lock screen And it you’re talking about the lock screen, go into Settings -> Notifications and check whether you want your notifications to be displayed in a stack or a list and the show preview setting to determine if you want notification previews displayed on the lock screen or not.  --Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris ChaffinSent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 6:27 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Reading notifications on the lock screen  If you are referring to Voiceover automatically reading notifications when they come in, I am assuming that you have already checked this, but just in case, go