Correct, pressure makes no difference although pressing down hard while you are trying to slide up smoothly certainly isn't intuitive for me, but I just tried it by touching at the bottom and pressing down just about as hard as I could and still slide my finger and the app switcher came up just fine. Having said this, a light touch is perfectly fine here.
I find at least with the case I have which isn't really very thick that back tap does not work reliably for me. But you can also assign gestures to various single, double, triple and quadruple finger taps and slides. You may want to go to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Commands > Touch Gestures and swipe through the list and see if any taps are unassigned and you could then for example assign "move to first item" to a particular tap. In my case, I have this assigned to a single finger triple tap and I use a single finger quadruple tap for "move to last item". Since the "back" button is always the first item at the top left of the screen I can do a single finger triple tap anywhere I want to find it and it will jump there. Of course you may be OK with the gesture which is already in plaace for that, a single tap with 4 fingers in the top half of the screen or, to go to the last item, do a single tap with 4 fingers on the bottom half of the screen. The reason why I assigned other gestures for these two actions is because I lost my sight in an accident involving explosives a very long time ago and I also had very bad hand injuries and only have 3 fingers on each hand so a 4-finger tap for me means I need to use 2 hands and it's not at all quick and easy to do and for the same reason braille input is out of the picture for me. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 5:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions I agree it takes some practice and getting used to, but I never found that pressure made any difference, unless of course too much pressure kept the gesture from being smooth or too little pressure meant it didn't register. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 5:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions It does take a bit of practice. Your touch can't be completely light with no pressure at all, but just a very small amount of pressure. To much pressure deffinately does not work. I never did figure out how to do the scrub gesture. On 11/7/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > Amen to that, Joshua, don't press, just flick. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 4:42 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions > > I recently upgraded from an iPhone 8 to the 13 pro max and I don't > miss the home button one bit. I have very little trouble going from > home to app switcher. One thing that helped me get a hang of the home > button gesture, is don't press your finger so hard on the screen when doing > the gesture. > Give the screen a very light touch with just a little bit of pressure. > If you press very hard on the screen all you'll do is be sliding your > finger around on the screen. I mostly use a braille bluetooth > keyboard called the Hable One so I don't have any trouble backing out > of menus. However, even if I'm not using my keyboard, I can back out > of menus just fine with no issues. > > On 11/7/22, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> Katriona, >> >> A couple of weeks ago, I made the same upgrade as you and can >> identify with your frustrations. First thing I did was set "home" as >> the macro for a double tap on the back of the phone. When I am in the >> control centre, especially by mistake, I find that I can get out by a >> scrub gesture. Mind you, you have to wait a second or two for it to >> move you out of the control centre. >> >> I too, have to make several attempts to use the bottom of screen >> and slide up, for the home button, So, rarely use it. Remember Siri >> can help. >> Instead of using the app switcher to go to another running app, I >> just reopen it using Siri. >> >> HTH a bit, and I am relying upon the fact that many here say that >> they don't miss the home button. I have always found the VO gestures >> intuitive and am disappointed with the one we have to use for Home >> and App Switcher. >> >> Mind you, I do think this is a much superior phone, especially, >> the camera functionality, than the 8. >> >> Sandy and Z. >> >> Sent from The dark side of the moon >> >>> On 7 Nov 2022, at 20:14, Katrina Anderson >>> <kanderson8...@sbcglobal.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> >>> >>> I replaced my iPhone 8 yesterday with a 14 Pro 256 and IOS 16 iPhone.1. >>> Although I am managing to deal with no home button, it certainly >>> isn’t easy yet. Although I will probably have additional questions >>> in the future, for now, I would appreciate any answers or thoughts >>> about the >>> following: >>> >>> >>> >>> I’m not able to sign in to the Instacart app. After entering the >>> E-mail address and password, there appears to be a captcha, >>> including a visual and audio challenge. I click on the audio option >>> and then play; hear the challenge, but then I can’t move forward. >>> There is a field to enter what I heard; I double tap, as VO says to >>> do, and nothing; no keyboard is displayed and there’s no dictate >>> button. You can click on a new challenge, visual challenge and >>> verify (the latter results in VO saying “in progress” of course an >>> answer was entered so I didn’t expect anything to happen). >>> Hopefully there is an easy solution to this. >>> Voiceover (VO) is still not getting notifications on the lock screen. >>> I had hoped this would be resolved by getting a newer phone. FYI, I >>> have the setting for Siri to announce notifications turned off, as >>> it seems redundant to have VO and Siri do the same thing, and >>> because I thought it might cause a conflict. Thoughts? >>> Because of the design of the 14 Pro, I’m finding it less efficient >>> to back out of menus, etc. On prior phones, I could quickly touch >>> the top/left of the display to find the back button. Now, if I go >>> to high, I activate the Control Center; if I could only activate the >>> Home Screen and App Switcher as easily (i.e. I can activate them >>> eventually but usually after numerous attempts to slide my finger >>> from the bottom up). 😀 Now that I’m in the Control Center, I have >>> to go through the attempts to return to the Home Screen, and then >>> attempt to find the back button by swiping a lot. Is there an >>> easier way to navigate menus, or tricks to make the process more efficient? >>> Is it possible to change a setting so that the Control Center >>> doesn’t open when touching the top of the display? >>> Again, getting out of areas like the Control Center, App Switcher >>> and submenus on the Home Screen can be done, but it is certainly a >>> challenge. >>> I put my finger at the bottom, above the lightening port, and slide >>> up to the first vibration and let go. The thing is it takes me >>> multiple attempts to feel the vibration, so I assume I didn’t start >>> in the proper place, low enough, etc. Hopefully this will >>> eventually get easier, but in the meantime suggestions are welcome. >>> Is there an alternative to what I’m doing to exit these areas (e.g. >>> can Siri help, could the side button help, etc.)? 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