date:20221124

RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

2022-11-24 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Simon and thank you for following up on this.

Well, I changed my Apple TV's TTS to my beloved Samantha and, while doing so 
greatly reduced the degree of the drop-outs, the issue remains.

However, I discovered a couple of things that lead me to believe that the 
problem is not VoiceOver.

First, I realized that this problem does not occur when the television's native 
screen reader speaks.  For the record I have a Sony X85K model which is running 
the latest version of Android 10.  This television is considered a Google TV, 
as opposed to an Android TV.  I have set the television's OS to use Google's 
original TTS engine, my favorite one, of course.  

Second, I discovered, today, that my DVD player's native screen reader, which I 
believe is developed by Samsung, has the same drop-out issue as the TTS on my 
Apple TV.

Again, the drop-out problem only occurs when using anything other than the TV's 
native TTS when connected to my sound bar via the optical cable.

I would conclude that the problem may be with my sound bar, which I purchased  
for a mere $39, but the fact that the native television's TTS works just fine, 
would not seem to support such a conclusion.

Regardless, while the issue may be a bit annoying, it is certainly not a 
show-stopper by any means.

Again, thank you for the follow-up.

Oh, before I forget, this problem occurs even when I disable the television's 
native TTs.

Mark

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From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 4:36 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hi Mark,

I've got my apple tv 4k gen one connected to my tv with an HDMI 1.4 cable,  
Then my tv to my sonos play bar with an optical cable,

This is one of the older original sonos play bars from probably 10 years back,  
I have my ATV updated to the latest prod tv OS version, And I'm using I think 
it's karen the Australian voice now for the tts,

And I'm not noticing this like you are,

Have you tried changing your aTV voice to something other than alex?

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From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2022 4:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a 
Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hello Everyone,

I know this was discussed in the distant pass but I do not remember if a 
resolution was determined.

Okay, here is the scenario:

1.
This problem only occurs with the TVOS TTS speech engine.  All other audio from 
Apple TV is heard as expected.

2.
This problem only occurs when the television is connected, via an optical 
cable, to a sound bar.

3.
This problem only occurs when VoiceOver is heard through the sound bar.  

4.
I am using the Alex TTS engine on my Apple TV HD running the latest version of 
TVOS.

The problem is that the first parts of words, spoken by the TTS, are getting 
dropped.

So, for example, the word "channel" comes out "anel."  The word "Thursday"
comes out "stday," and so forth.

Any ideas on what is causing this or how it can be resolved?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Re: NFL audio

2022-11-24 Thread Andy Baracco

It seemed to me that the app acted differently after the trial period ended.  I 
think after the trial period ends it begins to learn your preferences, because 
when I entered the Games tab the 49er game would be the first choice. As I said 
previously, I have not tried to access the other functions such as playing a 
past game, etc.

Andy

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  From: Christopher Chaltain 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 8:06 PM
  Subject: RE: NFL audio


  I could have sworn someone on this list asked me to try the NFL app in the 
free seven day trial period and post my results to this list, which I did. 
Instead of going through my mail box, I’ll just say that getting the NFL app to 
play the audio isn’t intuitive, and I posted some pretty convoluted steps to 
get the audio playing. Also, once you get the audio playing, you don’t have 
access to the audio player, so you can’t pause, fast forward or rewind the 
audio.

   

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  Chaltain at Outlook, USA

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
  Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 7:44 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: NFL audio

   

  So can you go back and listen to a game you missed?  What are the issues if 
any with listening to a audio stream in the NFL app?

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
  Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 7:55 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: NFL audio

   

  i have NFL Plus, and it is usable as far as listening to broadcasts is 
concerned, but takes a bit of practice.

  I haven't tried to access the more advanced functions though.

  As for advocacy, the ACB and NFB HAVE WORKED WITH THE NFL and reached 
agreements in the past, but these apps tend to make changes on a year to year 
basis, and every year it's like starting from scratch.

  In the past, they had a cheaper option called audio pass, where you could 
simply listen to the radio feeds, but that stopped a while back.

  For several years ai used an app called Game Day to access radio feeds, but 
the NFL has been putting additional pressure on radio stations to stop 
streaming on their own, and it appears to be having success.  The Game Day app 
is pretty much useless these days.

   

  Andy

   

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From: kheve...@fuse.net 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 4:06 PM

Subject: RE: NFL audio

 

It’s hard to know, but certainly think they would have to listen.  I am a 
bit perplexed as to why ACB and/or NFB haven’t taken up the issue.  I thought 
their involvement was what made the mlb programming accessible.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio

 

If we all contacted NFL do you think they would fix things?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio

 

In short, no.

SiriusXM is still the most reliable way to get NFL broadcasts.

They do not have archives of games though, which some people want.  

  

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NFL audio

 

Hi, has the NFL app improved at all?

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RE: NFL audio

2022-11-24 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I could have sworn someone on this list asked me to try the NFL app in the free 
seven day trial period and post my results to this list, which I did. Instead 
of going through my mail box, I'll just say that getting the NFL app to play 
the audio isn't intuitive, and I posted some pretty convoluted steps to get the 
audio playing. Also, once you get the audio playing, you don't have access to 
the audio player, so you can't pause, fast forward or rewind the audio.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio

So can you go back and listen to a game you missed?  What are the issues if any 
with listening to a audio stream in the NFL app?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL audio

i have NFL Plus, and it is usable as far as listening to broadcasts is 
concerned, but takes a bit of practice.
I haven't tried to access the more advanced functions though.
As for advocacy, the ACB and NFB HAVE WORKED WITH THE NFL and reached 
agreements in the past, but these apps tend to make changes on a year to year 
basis, and every year it's like starting from scratch.
In the past, they had a cheaper option called audio pass, where you could 
simply listen to the radio feeds, but that stopped a while back.
For several years ai used an app called Game Day to access radio feeds, but the 
NFL has been putting additional pressure on radio stations to stop streaming on 
their own, and it appears to be having success.  The Game Day app is pretty 
much useless these days.

Andy

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From: kheve...@fuse.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: NFL audio

It's hard to know, but certainly think they would have to listen.  I am a bit 
perplexed as to why ACB and/or NFB haven't taken up the issue.  I thought their 
involvement was what made the mlb programming accessible.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio

If we all contacted NFL do you think they would fix things?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio

In short, no.
SiriusXM is still the most reliable way to get NFL broadcasts.
They do not have archives of games though, which some people want.




Richard, USA.
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: 
https://www.turner42.com

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NFL audio

Hi, has the NFL app improved at all?
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RE: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

2022-11-24 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I haven't done this often, but I have had a lot of luck with Seeing AI. I 
scanned my Capital One debit card the other day, and I had no problem getting 
all of the information off of the card.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 5:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

You can still get 5 minutes for free with Aira, but as a non--paying user you 
are not getting priority and you just have to keep trying. In many cases I find 
that if you try a few times with a small time interval of 30 or 1 minute in 
between you do get through, but if you need help now and not 1 minute from now 
you might be out of luck.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

Hi they seem to have since I tried to call and got a call failer. I did a 
facetime with my sister and she helpt me. Thanks for all your help. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: November 23, 2022 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

Did Aira stop its free 4 minute calls?




Richard, USA.
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: 
https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.


Hey Mich, one could probably go crazy testing out the number of OCR apps 
available. For reading all required information on banking and credit cards, i 
have found the very best OCR Program to be Voice OCR. Most OCR I have tried 
can't read the embossed numbers on the cards; Voice OCR has failed me only on 
one card and I can't so far get entry to Aira as an impoverished non-paying 
member.

Sing along with Mich! (sometimes I can't help myself!)
On 2022-11-23 12:32 p.m., mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
Hi all I am wondering if there are any apps that would help with reading the 
info on a visa debbet card? I know not to use apps like be my eyes or ira to 
accomplish this but I am wondering if seeing ai would be recommended or not? I 
know that this is sencitive info and I am just wondering what I could do to do 
this independently. Many thanks. From Mich.

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RE: NFL audio

2022-11-24 Thread Dennis Long

So can you go back and listen to a game you missed?  What are the issues if any 
with listening to a audio stream in the NFL app?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL audio

i have NFL Plus, and it is usable as far as listening to broadcasts is 
concerned, but takes a bit of practice.

I haven't tried to access the more advanced functions though.

As for advocacy, the ACB and NFB HAVE WORKED WITH THE NFL and reached 
agreements in the past, but these apps tend to make changes on a year to year 
basis, and every year it's like starting from scratch.

In the past, they had a cheaper option called audio pass, where you could 
simply listen to the radio feeds, but that stopped a while back.

For several years ai used an app called Game Day to access radio feeds, but the 
NFL has been putting additional pressure on radio stations to stop streaming on 
their own, and it appears to be having success.  The Game Day app is pretty 
much useless these days.

Andy

- Original Message - 

From: kheve...@fuse.net   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 4:06 PM

Subject: RE: NFL audio

It’s hard to know, but certainly think they would have to listen.  I am a bit 
perplexed as to why ACB and/or NFB haven’t taken up the issue.  I thought their 
involvement was what made the mlb programming accessible.  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: NFL audio

If we all contacted NFL do you think they would fix things?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: NFL audio

In short, no.

SiriusXM is still the most reliable way to get NFL broadcasts.

They do not have archives of games though, which some people want.  

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Subject: NFL audio

Hi, has the NFL app improved at all?

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i have NFL Plus, and it is usable as far as listening to broadcasts is
concerned, but takes a bit of practice.
I haven't tried to access the more advanced functions though.
As for advocacy, the ACB and NFB HAVE WORKED WITH THE NFL and reached
agreements in the past, but these apps tend to make changes on a year to year
basis, and every year it's like starting from scratch.
In the past, they had a cheaper option called audio pass, where you could
simply listen to the radio feeds, but that stopped a while back.
For several years ai used an app called Game Day to access radio feeds, but the
NFL has been putting additional pressure on radio stations to stop streaming on
their own, and it appears to be having success. The Game Day app is pretty
much useless these days.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: kheve...@fuse.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: NFL audio

It’s hard to know, but certainly think they would have to listen. I am a bit
perplexed as to why ACB and/or NFB haven’t taken up the issue. I thought their
involvement was what made the mlb programming accessible.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dennis
Long
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio

If we all contacted NFL do you think they would fix things?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio

In short, no.

SiriusXM is still the most reliable way to get NFL broadcasts.

They do not have archives of games though, which some people want.

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
-- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dennis
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Subject: NFL audio

Hi, has the NFL app improved at all?

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RE: NFL audio

2022-11-24 Thread Dennis Long

It is.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio

It’s hard to know, but certainly think they would have to listen.  I am a bit 
perplexed as to why ACB and/or NFB haven’t taken up the issue.  I thought their 
involvement was what made the mlb programming accessible.  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: NFL audio

If we all contacted NFL do you think they would fix things?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: NFL audio

In short, no.

SiriusXM is still the most reliable way to get NFL broadcasts.

They do not have archives of games though, which some people want.  

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Dennis Long
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: NFL audio

Hi, has the NFL app improved at all?

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RE: NFL audio

2022-11-24 Thread khevener

It’s hard to know, but certainly think they would have to listen.  I am a bit 
perplexed as to why ACB and/or NFB haven’t taken up the issue.  I thought their 
involvement was what made the mlb programming accessible.  

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If we all contacted NFL do you think they would fix things?

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In short, no.

SiriusXM is still the most reliable way to get NFL broadcasts.

They do not have archives of games though, which some people want.  

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Hi, has the NFL app improved at all?

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RE: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

2022-11-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

You can still get 5 minutes for free with Aira, but as a non--paying user you 
are not getting priority and you just have to keep trying. In many cases I find 
that if you try a few times with a small time interval of 30 or 1 minute in 
between you do get through, but if you need help now and not 1 minute from now 
you might be out of luck.

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Hi they seem to have since I tried to call and got a call failer. I did a 
facetime with my sister and she helpt me. Thanks for all your help. From Mich.

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Turner
Sent: November 23, 2022 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

Did Aira stop its free 4 minute calls?

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Hey Mich, one could probably go crazy testing out the number of OCR apps 
available. For reading all required information on banking and credit cards, i 
have found the very best OCR Program to be Voice OCR. Most OCR I have tried 
can't read the embossed numbers on the cards; Voice OCR has failed me only on 
one card and I can't so far get entry to Aira as an impoverished non-paying 
member.

Sing along with Mich! (sometimes I can't help myself!)
On 2022-11-23 12:32 p.m., mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
Hi all I am wondering if there are any apps that would help with reading the 
info on a visa debbet card? I know not to use apps like be my eyes or ira to 
accomplish this but I am wondering if seeing ai would be recommended or not? I 
know that this is sencitive info and I am just wondering what I could do to do 
this independently. Many thanks. From Mich.

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Re: voice ocr?

2022-11-24 Thread doug parisian

Mich and Richard, sorry for being slow on the reply, got a bit busy.

Anyway, I have used several Apps over the past 10 years and found the
best overall recognition was done by Voice OCR. I have used the
Microsoft offering and others which are now in suspended animation since
Voice OCR reads cards, canned and packaged goods, and messy items the
best of the bunch. And, I'm not sure why being a student is a strike
against the developer. I have received any help I requested through the
support feature of the App.

On 2022-11-23 1:44 p.m., mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

Hi Dug I am wondering is Voice OCR a app for the I phone? Or is it a
setting in jaws? I am running jaws 2023. Many thanks. From Mich.

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Of *doug parisian

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Hey Mich, one could probably go crazy testing out the number of OCR
apps available. For reading all required information on banking and
credit cards, i have found the very best OCR Program to be Voice OCR.
Most OCR I have tried can't read the embossed numbers on the cards;
Voice OCR has failed me only on one card and I can't so far get entry
to Aira as an impoverished non-paying member.

Sing along with Mich! (sometimes I can't help myself!)

On 2022-11-23 12:32 p.m., mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

Hi all I am wondering if there are any apps that would help with
reading the info on a visa debbet card? I know not to use apps
like be my eyes or ira to accomplish this but I am wondering if
seeing ai would be recommended or not? I know that this is
sencitive info and I am just wondering what I could do to do this
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RE: NFL audio

2022-11-24 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Why are you saying they expect people to go to SiriusXM for radio streams? I 
know SiriusXM carries the radio feeds but the NFL app does support these as 
well, so they should work and the NFL app should be accessible. Plus the NFL 
app supports more than just radio feeds, such as archived games as Richard 
pointed out and those compressed games where you can listen to a whole game in 
like 45 minutes.

I’m not optimistic that the NFL will fix the app, but I know they won’t if 
people don’t report the issue. I reported the issue to the NFL and also opened 
up a complaint with the ADA, but nothing came of that. I’ve moved on to 
SiriusXM for NFL radio broadcasts and other things, so I’m no longer trying to 
or interested in using the NFL app.

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I agree, they  simply don’t care!

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Steele
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Subject: Re: NFL audio

Unfortunately, they probably wouldn't fix the issues. even they are expecting 
people to use Siriusxm for audio.

Peace & Blessings,
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On Nov 24, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Dennis Long 
mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If we all contacted NFL do you think they would fix things?

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In short, no.
SiriusXM is still the most reliable way to get NFL broadcasts.
They do not have archives of games though, which some people want.




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Hi, has the NFL app improved at all?
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RE: NFL audio

2022-11-24 Thread richring

I agree, they  simply don’t care!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL audio

Unfortunately, they probably wouldn't fix the issues. even they are expecting 
people to use Siriusxm for audio.

Peace & Blessings,

Pastor Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194

On Nov 24, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

If we all contacted NFL do you think they would fix things?

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Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: NFL audio

In short, no.

SiriusXM is still the most reliable way to get NFL broadcasts.

They do not have archives of games though, which some people want.  

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Hi, has the NFL app improved at all?

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Unfortunately, they probably wouldn't fix the issues. even they are expecting people to use Siriusxm for audio.Peace & Blessings,Pastor Duane L. SteelePhone (276) 730-5194On Nov 24, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:If we all contacted NFL do you think they would fix things? From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: NFL audio In short, no.SiriusXM is still the most reliable way to get NFL broadcasts.They do not have archives of games though, which some people want.   Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 9:48 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: NFL audio Hi, has the NFL app improved at all?-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00f301d8ff63%24b27e0c80%24177a2580%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/012701d8ff6b%24b2a3%2417e9%24%40comcast.net.



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RE: NFL audio

2022-11-24 Thread Dennis Long

If we all contacted NFL do you think they would fix things?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio

In short, no.

SiriusXM is still the most reliable way to get NFL broadcasts.

They do not have archives of games though, which some people want.  

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Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 9:48 AM
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Subject: NFL audio

Hi, has the NFL app improved at all?

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RE: Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

2022-11-24 Thread Carolyn

The good thing about USPC is that I can charge my phone from low 20's to around 
80% in about 45 minutes. That is not a deal breaker, but it is nice to have 
that benefit. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

No, it is not worth the upgrade. The SE 2022 has the iPhone 13 chip, which is 
not much faster than the 11 or 12.  The big change from the
11 to the 13 is 5g connectivity and most cell phone companies in the United 
States have not deployed it in a way that it makes a difference in the 
experience for nearly all iPhone users. They all have network upgrade plans, 
but the promises of dramatic speed increases or vastly greater coverage 
footprints have not materialized. The companies are currently refusing to 
explain how their previous claims fail to match today’s operations for most 
users.

Personally, I have turned off 5g on my 13 Mini and enjoy longer battery life as 
a result.  It only was available in downtown Chicago, and I did not experience 
5g in all parts but just some. iPhone affordability is achieved when people 
hold onto their phones until iOS can no longer be updated or even after iOS 
updates cease.  For the iPhone 6s that was seven  years and it was six years 
for the iPhone 7.
Both are still reliable phones today, particularly if kept in an indestructible 
Otterbox hard shell case.  Apple makes highly durable hardware that lasts for 
years. Your SE 2022 will still be useful and functional well into the mid-2020s 
and beyond.  Apple has some really big changes planned for future phones. USBC 
will be in phones for next year, although only the Pro will have the super-fast 
transfer rate.
In 2023 or 2024, iPhones will have the three nanometer chip, requiring less 
power from the battery and significantly greater speed, enabling the iPhone to 
perform even more complex tasks. Services like live text, enhanced image 
description and LIDAR were either as a result or fully enabled by the five 
nanometer chips introduced with the 12 series in 2020.  Exciting new 
functionality is coming to the iPhone and I am saving my pennies to run out and 
have the future in my hands when it arrives.

Kelly

On 11/23/22, Dennis Long  wrote:
> See what you can get towards a 14 pro or pro max.
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