RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[M. Taylor]

Hi,

You know, there are not a great many things on my bucket list but one of the 
items is becoming a ham.

I have wanted to become a ham for over 30 years but have not done so, to be 
honest, because of my fear of failing the licensing tests.

Now I don't know much about it but back in the 80s I had a couple of friends 
who wanted to get their licenses but failed to do so.

I don't want to go off topic, on this, but if anyone of you hams would like to 
send me the steps on how to go about getting a license and an blind and/or low 
vision accessible way to go about it, send me a reply, off-list, as I would 
greatly appreciate it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
been able to use an app called echolink. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hello Everyone,

Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.

As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.

I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie Talkie 
app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.

It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, coupled 
with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, at least, it 
was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my ear and I felt 
silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.

Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was not a 
good one.

Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home, this 
was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.

She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same 
reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I know 
that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.

So, the question:

Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on 
iPhone?  

When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of which one 
is best for VoiceOver users.

Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie app on 
the watch but, of course, works on the phone.

I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie app 
feature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario, 
between only 2 people.

Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in the 
airport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: Seeing AI.

[William James]

Hi Penny,You swipe with one finger up or down to the channel you want.  Once you have landed on the one you want, make VoiceOver’s focus be on something else like help, menu, ETC.  When you double tap the screen, your channel won’t change.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Jul 11, 2023, at 8:37 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:I like Seeing AI when i can get it to work, but, often when i choose a channel with a double tap on a button whose label is exactly what i want, it switches immediately to a different channel. What m i doing wrong? If i tap on Short Text, how can i keep it from switching immediately to People? Thanks for your advice! Penny Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 11, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:I love it as well! It's a wonderful app! EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc WrightSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Seeing AI.they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again and it appeared.- Original Message -From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PMSubject: RE: Seeing AI.What are all the channels  you do have?-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn ArnoldSent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PMTo: viPhone Subject: Seeing AI.Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/09d501d9b393%2422ede240%2468c9a6c0%24%40gmail.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656CC3A04DFC0B24AE93FD1C731A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011b01d9b3f7%2471d79c70%247001a8c0%40HPDesktop.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list 

RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[khevener]

True enough, Kevin.  It might not be the best, but could work especially if 
both people were aware of the delay.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hi.

I'm also a licensed ham, and used to have Echo Link. I could see a problem 
trying to use it as a walkie talkie app, and it's the latency. Unless Echo Link 
has improved since I used it, sometimes there could be at least a 10 second 
delay from when a station started talking and when the other heard what was 
said.

Maybe this has changed.

Kevin and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
Importance: High

being a real radio nut as well, that is what I would very probably also do. 
if you don't want to go through all the hassle of getting that licence however, 
there are sets that are licence free, such as CB sets, those on the 49MHZ band, 
and those on the 446MHZ band.
not sure if there are any regulations about using such sets in airports 
however, and you wouldn't get the echolink app access either.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS


Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
been able to use an app called echolink.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hello Everyone,

Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.

As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.

I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie Talkie 
app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.

It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, coupled 
with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, at least, it 
was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my ear and I felt 
silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.

Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was not a 
good one.

Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home, this 
was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.

She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same 
reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I know 
that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.

So, the question:

Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on 
iPhone?

When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of which one 
is best for VoiceOver users.

Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie app on 
the watch but, of course, works on the phone.

I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie app 
feature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario, 
between only 2 people.

Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in the 
airport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: Seeing AI.

[Richard Turner]

You do not need to double tap on the channel. When you flick up or down on the channel and hear the one you want, don' touch it, just point the camera. I think handwriting with have a button to capture the picture, but most like short text, document, product all just work.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jul 11, 2023, at 5:37 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:I like Seeing AI when i can get it to work, but, often when i choose a channel with a double tap on a button whose label is exactly what i want, it switches immediately to a different channel. What m i doing wrong? If i tap on Short Text, how can i keep it from switching immediately to People? Thanks for your advice! Penny Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 11, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:I love it as well! It's a wonderful app! EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc WrightSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Seeing AI.they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again and it appeared.- Original Message -From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PMSubject: RE: Seeing AI.What are all the channels  you do have?-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn ArnoldSent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PMTo: viPhone Subject: Seeing AI.Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/09d501d9b393%2422ede240%2468c9a6c0%24%40gmail.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656CC3A04DFC0B24AE93FD1C731A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011b01d9b3f7%2471d79c70%247001a8c0%40HPDesktop.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you 

Re: Seeing AI.

[Penny Reeder]

I like Seeing AI when i can get it to work, but, often when i choose a channel with a double tap on a button whose label is exactly what i want, it switches immediately to a different channel. What m i doing wrong? If i tap on Short Text, how can i keep it from switching immediately to People? Thanks for your advice! Penny Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 11, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:I love it as well! It's a wonderful app! EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc WrightSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Seeing AI.they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again and it appeared.- Original Message -From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PMSubject: RE: Seeing AI.What are all the channels  you do have?-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn ArnoldSent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PMTo: viPhone Subject: Seeing AI.Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/09d501d9b393%2422ede240%2468c9a6c0%24%40gmail.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656CC3A04DFC0B24AE93FD1C731A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011b01d9b3f7%2471d79c70%247001a8c0%40HPDesktop.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are 

RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

I'm also a licensed ham, and used to have Echo Link. I could see a problem 
trying to use it as a walkie talkie app, and it's the latency. Unless Echo Link 
has improved since I used it, sometimes there could be at least a 10 second 
delay from when a station started talking and when the other heard what was 
said.

Maybe this has changed.

Kevin and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
Importance: High

being a real radio nut as well, that is what I would very probably also do. 
if you don't want to go through all the hassle of getting that licence however, 
there are sets that are licence free, such as CB sets, those on the 49MHZ band, 
and those on the 446MHZ band.
not sure if there are any regulations about using such sets in airports 
however, and you wouldn't get the echolink app access either.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS


Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
been able to use an app called echolink.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hello Everyone,

Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.

As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.

I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie 
Talkie app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.

It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, 
coupled with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, 
at least, it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my 
ear and I felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.

Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was 
not a good one.

Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home, 
this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.

She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same 
reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I 
know that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.

So, the question:

Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on 
iPhone?

When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of which 
one is best for VoiceOver users.

Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie app 
on the watch but, of course, works on the phone.

I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie app 
feature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario, 
between only 2 people.

Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in the 
airport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: best OCR app for reading video game titles?

[Richard Turner]

It might help if you told us which ones you have tried.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jul 11, 2023, at 4:39 PM, goshawk on horseback  wrote:






hello all, 
probably a bit of a long shot, but nothing 
ventured, nothing gained. 
does anyone know of a good OCR app, for reading 
video game titles? by that, I am talking about those on the disks or cartridges 
of console games, such as snes, N64, gameboy advance, xbox one, etc. 

so far, I have found many OCR apps have been unable 
to read a lot of titles, at a guess, I would say owing to very small writing, 
and strange colour combinations used in them, so wondered if there were any OCR 
apps that would be better at this sort of thing. 
 
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Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[goshawk on horseback]

being a real radio nut as well, that is what I would very probably also do. 
if you don't want to go through all the hassle of getting that licence 
however, there are sets that are licence free, such as CB sets, those on the 
49MHZ band, and those on the 446MHZ band.
not sure if there are any regulations about using such sets in airports 
however, and you wouldn't get the echolink app access either.


Simon


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS


Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
been able to use an app called echolink.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hello Everyone,

Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.


As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.


I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie 
Talkie app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.


It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, 
coupled with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, 
at least, it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my 
ear and I felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.


Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was 
not a good one.


Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home, 
this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.


She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same 
reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I 
know that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.


So, the question:

Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on 
iPhone?


When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of which 
one is best for VoiceOver users.


Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie app 
on the watch but, of course, works on the phone.


I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie app 
feature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario, 
between only 2 people.


Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in the 
airport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.


All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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best OCR app for reading video game titles?

[goshawk on horseback]

hello all, 
probably a bit of a long shot, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. 
does anyone know of a good OCR app, for reading video game titles? by that, I 
am talking about those on the disks or cartridges of console games, such as 
snes, N64, gameboy advance, xbox one, etc. 
so far, I have found many OCR apps have been unable to read a lot of titles, at 
a guess, I would say owing to very small writing, and strange colour 
combinations used in them, so wondered if there were any OCR apps that would be 
better at this sort of thing. 

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Re: Seeing AI.

[Esther Levegnale]

I love it as well! It's a wonderful app! Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI.
> 
> they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector 
> was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again 
> and it appeared.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PM
> Subject: RE: Seeing AI.
> 
> 
> What are all the channels  you do have?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PM
> To: viPhone 
> Subject: Seeing AI.
> 
> Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't 
> used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there 
> still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how 
> I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time 
> of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.
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Re: Generating email addresses for Apps

[N]

Hi,
thanks I have seen this on a website but not in the App I am trying to create 
an account fore.
Max.

> On 11 Jul 2023, at 21:20, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure I have always seen this available, but if you click on the enter 
> e-mail address field then you should find a list of auto-fill choices just 
> above the touch keyboard and one of these should be to create a random 
> address.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2023, at 6:53 PM, N  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> I have just subscribed to iCloud + to gain some extra storage and generate 
>> email addresses when signing up to web sites that I may not wish to receive 
>> mail from.
>> I have found how to do this Ok but I can not get it to work when signing up 
>> to Apps that I am not prepared to give my regular address too.
>> Can anybody please tell me how to do this?
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Max.
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RE: World preview

[Carolyn Arnold]

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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:04 PM
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Subject: World preview

I don't have world preview on my Seeing AI app.  What is it?


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RE: Seeing AI.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI.

they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector was 
checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again and it 
appeared.
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To: 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI.


What are all the channels  you do have?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Seeing AI.

Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used 
it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a 
video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find 
stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it 
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RE: light detector

[Louise Peyton]

Hi:
The light detector I did find in Seeing AI but made sure to update the app.  
Also light Detector-utilities is in the app store as I just downloaded it at no 
cost as is Seeing AI.
Louise


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: light detector

I believe ATguys offers one for about $20.  Fred Olver
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Subject: Fw: light detector


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Subject: light detector

I noticed that the light detector that was in Seeing AI is gone. Is there an 
alternative?
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Re: light detector

[Fred Olver]

I believe ATguys offers one for about $20.  Fred Olver
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  I noticed that the light detector that was in Seeing AI is gone. Is there an 
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RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[khevener]

Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
been able to use an app called echolink. 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hello Everyone,

Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.

As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.

I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie Talkie 
app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.

It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, coupled 
with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, at least, it 
was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my ear and I felt 
silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.

Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was not a 
good one.

Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home, this 
was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.

She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same 
reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I know 
that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.

So, the question:

Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on 
iPhone?  

When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of which one 
is best for VoiceOver users.

Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie app on 
the watch but, of course, works on the phone.

I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie app 
feature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario, 
between only 2 people.

Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in the 
airport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?

[Lynn Schneider]

ChatGPT can be a lot of fun and can be very useful in the creative process, the 
app is very simple to use and I think it is a great way for beginners to 
experience working with AI chat bots. At this time, chat GPT cannot check the 
web or provide sources for its answers, so if you are doing anything that 
requires up to date information, you will need a chat bot like Bing that can go 
out, search the web and bring back links to the actual sources it used to 
create the output. There was a time briefly when chat GPT could use Bing chat 
to do Web checking, but that feature was taken out because of some legal 
issues. They say they will reinstate it eventually. For anything needing 
up-to-date information or fact checking, I do recommend the Bing app, although 
it is not as Easy to use and there is advertising, but I still like it best 
right now. But if you just want to have some fun or get some help with the 
creative process, the free ChatGPT is a fine choice.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2023, at 10:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Just so you know, I am posting this to both lists.
> 
> So I keep running into all kinds of news articles on Chat GPT, a product
> from the Open A I project.
> 
> Has anyone downloaded the app from the App Store and, if so, are you finding
> it as amazing as some of the news reporters from USA Today and the
> Wallstreet Journal?  
> 
> I went to the website at chat.openai.com to see what I could find.  I did
> not find much; I'll have to download the app to really check it out.
> 
> Oh, the article I read today, in the Apple News app talked about how Chat
> GPT planned the writer's vacation itinerary and did a pretty good job of it,
> apparently.
> 
> I look forward to reading your replies,
> 
> Mark
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Re: World preview

[Richard Turner]

The World channel is only available on phones with the LIDAR sensor, which is 
the pro models from 12 through 14, so the pro and pro max models. 
It tries to identify objects and tell you how far away they are amongst other 
things. 




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> On Jul 11, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
> 
> I don't have world preview on my Seeing AI app.  What is it?
> 
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World preview

[Maria Campbell]

I don't have world preview on my Seeing AI app.  What is it?


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RE: Seeing AI.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I finally did find light. 

I have:

Quick help
Recognizing English
Channel help
Short text

Document
Product
Person
Currency
Scene preview
Color
Handwriting
Light



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Subject: RE: Seeing AI.

What are all the channels  you do have?

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Arnold
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Subject: Seeing AI.

Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used 
it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a 
video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find 
stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it 
and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help. 

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RE: Seeing AI.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Oh yes, thanks. I forgot about World Preview. 

-Original Message-
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William James
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI.

On my phone, Seeing AI has Light between handwriting and World Preview.  You 
use one finger to swipe up through the various channels of Seeing AI.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Jul 10, 2023, at 9:00 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I 
> haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to 
> see if there still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any 
> of you know just how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and 
> kind of had an uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. 
> Thanks for any help.
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Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?

[Devin Prater]

They both use data from September 2021. Correcting it only corrects it 
for that one chat and context instance, not for everyone or even new 
chats from you. GPT4 is more likely to say that it doesn't know, and 
less likely to get things completely wrong, although it can get some 
details wrong. It's like asking a very fast human who has crammed lots 
of info into their brain. Just, a good bit different because it's not a 
human, just trained on human data.


On 7/11/2023 10:49 AM, Jody ianuzzi wrote:
If you are running the 3.5 version of chat GPT then it is accessing a 
database that is over two years old! It was anything you hear us from 
before September 2021  if you have the paid version which is 4.0 then I 
think it relies on a more recent database you can also correct it and 
give it information. Of course this can be misleading if someone gives 
incorrect information.


JODY

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On Jul 11, 2023, at 11:24 AM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:

You said:
It doesn’t tend to say “I don’t know”
Hmm, I  wonder what this reluctancy would be like  in a different 
context... oh just too much for my imagination! Lol


Best,
Leo Bado

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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:42 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?

I do want to give a slight warning though in regards to asking for 
information. The AI can “hallucinate” and give dead wrong information, 
but do so very confidently. It doesn’t tend to say “I don’t know” but 
will just make stuff up, so verify everything.


On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:32 AM,  
 wrote:


  I've also messed with the iOS version. It's both fascinating and 
scary. For a laugh, I asked it to write a blog post on the 
advancements of Apple's VoiceOver screen access solution for iOS and 
the Mac, and its impact on accessibility for blind users. The result 
absolutely floored me. I have also asked it for information on a 
number of subjects and, again, have been amazed at what has been 
produced.


Take Care

John Panarese


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Of Dave Lehnis

Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?

I have the iOS ChatGPT. I find it very helpful in finding information 
about a variety of topics. I have an asked it to do particular things 
for me other than find information. I like it a lot and will continue 
to work with it.


Dave Lehnis.


On Jul 10, 2023, at 7:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Just so you know, I am posting this to both lists.

So I keep running into all kinds of news articles on Chat GPT, a
product from the Open A I project.

Has anyone downloaded the app from the App Store and, if so, are you
finding it as amazing as some of the news reporters from USA Today and
the Wallstreet Journal?

I went to the website at chat.openai.com to see what I could find.  I
did not find much; I'll have to download the app to really check it out.

Oh, the article I read today, in the Apple News app talked about how
Chat GPT planned the writer's vacation itinerary and did a pretty good
job of it, apparently.

I look forward to reading your replies,

Mark


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Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?

[Jody ianuzzi]

If you are running the 3.5 version of chat GPT then it is accessing a database 
that is over two years old! It was anything you hear us from before September 
2021  if you have the paid version which is 4.0 then I think it relies on a 
more recent database you can also correct it and give it information. Of course 
this can be misleading if someone gives incorrect information.

JODY

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Weihenmayer

> On Jul 11, 2023, at 11:24 AM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> You said:
> It doesn’t tend to say “I don’t know”
> Hmm, I  wonder what this reluctancy would be like  in a different context... 
> oh just too much for my imagination! Lol 
> 
> Best,
> Leo Bado
> 
> "Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."
> Elbert Hubbard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Brandon Olivares
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:42 AM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?
> 
> I do want to give a slight warning though in regards to asking for 
> information. The AI can “hallucinate” and give dead wrong information, but do 
> so very confidently. It doesn’t tend to say “I don’t know” but will just make 
> stuff up, so verify everything.
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:32 AM,   
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   I've also messed with the iOS version. It's both fascinating and scary. 
>> For a laugh, I asked it to write a blog post on the advancements of Apple's 
>> VoiceOver screen access solution for iOS and the Mac, and its impact on 
>> accessibility for blind users. The result absolutely floored me. I have also 
>> asked it for information on a number of subjects and, again, have been 
>> amazed at what has been produced.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John Panarese
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
>> Lehnis
>> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?
>> 
>> I have the iOS ChatGPT. I find it very helpful in finding information about 
>> a variety of topics. I have an asked it to do particular things for me other 
>> than find information. I like it a lot and will continue to work with it.
>> 
>> Dave Lehnis.
>> 
 On Jul 10, 2023, at 7:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> Just so you know, I am posting this to both lists.
>>> 
>>> So I keep running into all kinds of news articles on Chat GPT, a 
>>> product from the Open A I project.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone downloaded the app from the App Store and, if so, are you 
>>> finding it as amazing as some of the news reporters from USA Today and 
>>> the Wallstreet Journal?
>>> 
>>> I went to the website at chat.openai.com to see what I could find.  I 
>>> did not find much; I'll have to download the app to really check it out.
>>> 
>>> Oh, the article I read today, in the Apple News app talked about how 
>>> Chat GPT planned the writer's vacation itinerary and did a pretty good 
>>> job of it, apparently.
>>> 
>>> I look forward to reading your replies,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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RE: Chat GPT, Anyone?

[leobado1982]

You said:
It doesn’t tend to say “I don’t know”
Hmm, I  wonder what this reluctancy would be like  in a different context... oh 
just too much for my imagination! Lol 

Best,
 Leo Bado

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."
Elbert Hubbard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brandon 
Olivares
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:42 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?

I do want to give a slight warning though in regards to asking for information. 
The AI can “hallucinate” and give dead wrong information, but do so very 
confidently. It doesn’t tend to say “I don’t know” but will just make stuff up, 
so verify everything.

> On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:32 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
>I've also messed with the iOS version. It's both fascinating and scary. 
> For a laugh, I asked it to write a blog post on the advancements of Apple's 
> VoiceOver screen access solution for iOS and the Mac, and its impact on 
> accessibility for blind users. The result absolutely floored me. I have also 
> asked it for information on a number of subjects and, again, have been amazed 
> at what has been produced.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
> Lehnis
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?
> 
> I have the iOS ChatGPT. I find it very helpful in finding information about a 
> variety of topics. I have an asked it to do particular things for me other 
> than find information. I like it a lot and will continue to work with it.
> 
> Dave Lehnis.
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2023, at 7:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Just so you know, I am posting this to both lists.
>> 
>> So I keep running into all kinds of news articles on Chat GPT, a 
>> product from the Open A I project.
>> 
>> Has anyone downloaded the app from the App Store and, if so, are you 
>> finding it as amazing as some of the news reporters from USA Today and 
>> the Wallstreet Journal?
>> 
>> I went to the website at chat.openai.com to see what I could find.  I 
>> did not find much; I'll have to download the app to really check it out.
>> 
>> Oh, the article I read today, in the Apple News app talked about how 
>> Chat GPT planned the writer's vacation itinerary and did a pretty good 
>> job of it, apparently.
>> 
>> I look forward to reading your replies,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: Voiceover command question

[Richard Turner]

I went through all the standard braille commands I can find and that command 
isn't one of them.
I wonder if that was a custom command that perhaps you meant to have more dots 
and it took just dots 1,6 and the spacebar?

In any case, I would go ahead and replace that strange command so space+1,6 
does what you want.





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-Original Message-
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Cohn
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 4:56 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Voiceover command question

This does not sound familiar I would try turning on keyboard help and see what 
it says that chord does.


> On Jul 10, 2023, at 11:44 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was assigning a braille keyboard command  and received the following 
> message about the key combination already being signed to an existing 
> command. Does anyone know what this command actually does?
> 
> ‘Dot 1 + Dot 6 + Space bar’ is already being used to perform the 
> ‘VOTEventCommandWordDescription’ command.
> 
> Do you want to replace this command?
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Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[Alan Lemly]

I have to agree with Richard. Even if you find a walkie talkie app that works well with VoiceOver, trying to use such an app with an Apple watch in an airport environment with all its ambient noise sounds like an exercise in futility. In such a situation, I would call the person on my iPhone and make sure my wired Earpods are securely connected before doing so. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 11, 2023, at 7:54 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:For me, I would just call the person. But a quick lookin the app store, HeyTell is still there and another free one called Zello WalkieTalkie as well which I think has higher ratings. Then there are a few with in-app purchases. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jul 11, 2023, at 5:19 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:Hi mark,This is an old app, but is HeyTel still in existence? That would work I think. You double tap and hold on the screen, say your message, then let go. I think that you can only use it for 30 or 1 minute messages, but sounds like a good one for what you want. Others may also let you know of others.Jenn
Jennie Facer


On Jul 10, 2023, at 11:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:Hello Everyone,Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airportwaiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore theairport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the WalkieTalkie app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so manypeople crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watchwhen she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people,coupled with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me,at least, it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against myear and I felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience wasnot a good one.Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home,this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the samereason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so Iknow that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.So, the question:Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work oniPhone?  When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of whichone is best for VoiceOver users.Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie appon the watch but, of course, works on the phone.I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie appfeature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario,between only 2 people.Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in theairport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.All replies greatly appreciated.Mark-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801d9b3b9%2432a8b860%2497fa2920%24%40ucla.edu.



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Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?

[Brandon Olivares]

I do want to give a slight warning though in regards to asking for information. 
The AI can “hallucinate” and give dead wrong information, but do so very 
confidently. It doesn’t tend to say “I don’t know” but will just make stuff up, 
so verify everything.

> On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:32 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
>I've also messed with the iOS version. It's both fascinating and scary. 
> For a laugh, I asked it to write a blog post on the advancements of Apple's 
> VoiceOver screen access solution for iOS and the Mac, and its impact on 
> accessibility for blind users. The result absolutely floored me. I have also 
> asked it for information on a number of subjects and, again, have been amazed 
> at what has been produced.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
> Lehnis
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?
> 
> I have the iOS ChatGPT. I find it very helpful in finding information about a 
> variety of topics. I have an asked it to do particular things for me other 
> than find information. I like it a lot and will continue to work with it.
> 
> Dave Lehnis.
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2023, at 7:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Just so you know, I am posting this to both lists.
>> 
>> So I keep running into all kinds of news articles on Chat GPT, a 
>> product from the Open A I project.
>> 
>> Has anyone downloaded the app from the App Store and, if so, are you 
>> finding it as amazing as some of the news reporters from USA Today and 
>> the Wallstreet Journal?
>> 
>> I went to the website at chat.openai.com to see what I could find.  I 
>> did not find much; I'll have to download the app to really check it out.
>> 
>> Oh, the article I read today, in the Apple News app talked about how 
>> Chat GPT planned the writer's vacation itinerary and did a pretty good 
>> job of it, apparently.
>> 
>> I look forward to reading your replies,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: Chat GPT, Anyone?

[jpanarese]

I've also messed with the iOS version. It's both fascinating and scary. For 
a laugh, I asked it to write a blog post on the advancements of Apple's 
VoiceOver screen access solution for iOS and the Mac, and its impact on 
accessibility for blind users. The result absolutely floored me. I have also 
asked it for information on a number of subjects and, again, have been amazed 
at what has been produced.

Take Care

John Panarese


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Lehnis
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?

I have the iOS ChatGPT. I find it very helpful in finding information about a 
variety of topics. I have an asked it to do particular things for me other than 
find information. I like it a lot and will continue to work with it.

Dave Lehnis.

> On Jul 10, 2023, at 7:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello All,
> 
> Just so you know, I am posting this to both lists.
> 
> So I keep running into all kinds of news articles on Chat GPT, a 
> product from the Open A I project.
> 
> Has anyone downloaded the app from the App Store and, if so, are you 
> finding it as amazing as some of the news reporters from USA Today and 
> the Wallstreet Journal?
> 
> I went to the website at chat.openai.com to see what I could find.  I 
> did not find much; I'll have to download the app to really check it out.
> 
> Oh, the article I read today, in the Apple News app talked about how 
> Chat GPT planned the writer's vacation itinerary and did a pretty good 
> job of it, apparently.
> 
> I look forward to reading your replies,
> 
> Mark
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Re: Seeing AI.

[Robert Doc Wright]

they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector 
was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again 
and it appeared.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI.


What are all the channels  you do have?

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Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Seeing AI.

Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't 
used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there 
still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just 
how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain 
time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.


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Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[Richard Turner]

For me, I would just call the person. But a quick lookin the app store, HeyTell is still there and another free one called Zello WalkieTalkie as well which I think has higher ratings. Then there are a few with in-app purchases. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jul 11, 2023, at 5:19 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:Hi mark,This is an old app, but is HeyTel still in existence? That would work I think. You double tap and hold on the screen, say your message, then let go. I think that you can only use it for 30 or 1 minute messages, but sounds like a good one for what you want. Others may also let you know of others.Jenn
Jennie Facer


On Jul 10, 2023, at 11:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:Hello Everyone,Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airportwaiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore theairport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the WalkieTalkie app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so manypeople crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watchwhen she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people,coupled with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me,at least, it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against myear and I felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience wasnot a good one.Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home,this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the samereason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so Iknow that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.So, the question:Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work oniPhone?  When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of whichone is best for VoiceOver users.Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie appon the watch but, of course, works on the phone.I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie appfeature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario,between only 2 people.Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in theairport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.All replies greatly appreciated.Mark-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801d9b3b9%2432a8b860%2497fa2920%24%40ucla.edu.



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Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[Jennie Facer]

Hi mark,

This is an old app, but is HeyTel still in existence? That would work I think. 
You double tap and hold on the screen, say your message, then let go. I think 
that you can only use it for 30 or 1 minute messages, but sounds like a good 
one for what you want. Others may also let you know of others.

Jenn
Jennie Facer

> On Jul 10, 2023, at 11:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport
> waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.
> 
> As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the
> airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.
> 
> I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie
> Talkie app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.
> 
> It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many
> people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch
> when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people,
> coupled with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me,
> at least, it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my
> ear and I felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.
> 
> Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
> Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was
> not a good one.
> 
> Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home,
> this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.
> 
> She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same
> reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I
> know that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.
> 
> So, the question:
> 
> Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on
> iPhone?  
> 
> When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of which
> one is best for VoiceOver users.
> 
> Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie app
> on the watch but, of course, works on the phone.
> 
> I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie app
> feature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario,
> between only 2 people.
> 
> Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in the
> airport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Voiceover command question

[Jonathan Cohn]

This does not sound familiar I would try turning on keyboard help and see what 
it says that chord does.


> On Jul 10, 2023, at 11:44 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I was assigning a braille keyboard command  and received the following 
> message about the key combination already being signed to an existing 
> command. Does anyone know what this command actually does?
> 
> ‘Dot 1 + Dot 6 + Space bar’ is already being used to perform the 
> ‘VOTEventCommandWordDescription’ command.
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> Do you want to replace this command?
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Re: Strange letter showing in may address

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
In System Preferences open up Internet Accounts.
Then select the account from the first table. 
Now press the details button and you should be prompted to change the name of 
the account and your name.
If you change the name of the account that will effect the mailboxes menu and 
also the information in the contacts application. 

> On Jul 10, 2023, at 8:53 PM, N  wrote:
> 
> His, thanks for the reply I am using Apple Mail on a Mac.
> Max.
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2023, at 09:08, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> This appears to be where your full name should be. Every user agent does 
>> this a little differently, are you using Apple‘s mail app? And if so, on the 
>> Mac or on an iPad or on an iPhone?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2023, at 6:58 PM, N  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again,
>>> I have only just noticed in my email address there is a letter N showing up 
>>> just before agent0...@internode.on.net.
>>> Can anybody please tell me how to remove this? I can edit the address but 
>>> there is still the letter.
>>> Thanks again.
>>> Max.
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Re: Generating email addresses for Apps

[Jonathan Cohn]

I’m not sure I have always seen this available, but if you click on the enter 
e-mail address field then you should find a list of auto-fill choices just 
above the touch keyboard and one of these should be to create a random address.


> On Jul 10, 2023, at 6:53 PM, N  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> I have just subscribed to iCloud + to gain some extra storage and generate 
> email addresses when signing up to web sites that I may not wish to receive 
> mail from.
> I have found how to do this Ok but I can not get it to work when signing up 
> to Apps that I am not prepared to give my regular address too.
> Can anybody please tell me how to do this?
> Thanks for any advice.
> Max.
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RE: iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

[portillo.jim]

Yes. I've done a reboot.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 4:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

Have you tried giving your phone a soft boot, or whatever you call it, when you 
press Volume Up, Volume Down and Power off? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Portillo
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

Yeah, this does have a screen protector. I’ve never had issues like these in 
the past. And, I keep my phone in a holster, and when I have it out, I am 
fairly careful. It’s rare that it takes any kind of fall or gets hit by 
anything. That is why I’m surprised at the latest goings on.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 7:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

 

A well-applied glass screen protector has no negative effect on touch screen 
sensitivity. You must be more careful than me with your phone, I have a very 
nice leather belt holster which keeps my phone nice and safe when it's in it, 
but I use my phone in all sorts of situations from when I am sitting on the 
couch or at my desk to while I am walking or working in the garden or my 
woodworking shop. Just this morning I went outside to the backyard while I was 
holding my iPhone and I misjudged the distance to the first step down from the 
deck and briefly lost my balance and my iPhone went flying. My deck is about 5 
feet off the ground and I was holding it at railing height which is about 3 and 
a half feet so it had a nice 8 foot or so drop onto concrete. Fortunately it 
was lying on its back, but in a situation like that a good glass scren 
protector can totally make the difference between having a broken screen or 
not. I also have it in a relatively slim, but well made and drop-tested case so 
it did not seem to come to any harm and at least as far as I can tell there 
isn't a scratch on it. Glass screen protectors are quite inexpensive on Amazon 
so I will definitely not go without and if it ends  up not sitting perfectly on 
the screen any more I can simply replace it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

 

I have never used a screen protector because I keep my phone in a shoulder bag 
my wife custom made for it so it isn't banging against things in my pocket etc.

Screen protectors can cause the lack of sensitivity you are describing.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
portillo@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

 

Yes sir. I have cleaned my screen a couple times, because I don’t like having 
dirty hands when I use my phone. I know it happens, so I try and keep it clean. 
I believe I’m using a screen protecter, but I’d have to check. I’ve had this 
phone for about four years, so I honestly don’t remember. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

 

Two things, Have you cleaned your screen lately and do you use a screen 
protector?

A dirty screen can have all sorts of weird effects and if you have screen 
protector which is maybe not very good any more can also have negative effects.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
portillo@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 5:53 AM
To: portillo@gmail.com  
Subject: iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

 

Good morning,

For a few weeks now, I have been dealing with a very annoying issue on my 
phone. When I do something like swipe or other Voiceover gestures with my 
finger, things start out OK, but after a few instances, there is a sort of jump 
or crash that takes me one layer back or to the very top of where I started, 
and I