RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-17 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
 

 

Thank you. I appreciate this.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 02:42
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

You first of all have to configure the sleep focus on your iPhone and then if 
your watch is set up to mirror you riPhone, then it wil automatically apply.

 

From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

 

 

Hi all,

 

How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode.

Is there such a thing.

 

Thanks.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple 

watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

Hi,

 

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.

The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

 

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

 

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.

I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.

Here is what I discovered:

 

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.

I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.

However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

 

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

 

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.

According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

 

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support 
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.>
 

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

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sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

2023-12-16 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
 

 

Hi all,

 

How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode.

Is there such a thing.

 

Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple 

watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

Hi,

 

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.

The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

 

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

 

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.

I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.

Here is what I discovered:

 

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.

I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.

However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

 

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

 

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.

According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

 

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support 

 

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-14 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 



I am having the same issue and I am waiting on Apple support to contat me as we 
have an acall appointment.

I will share any info I get. Its really driving me crazy.

Linda Knight

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 02:13
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I just tried a 1-finger double tap about 8 or 10 times in a row, of course I 
made sure the watch was locked/asleep after each time, but not once did it giv 
eme haptic time.
I wonder if there is some other setting which causes  you to tap 3 times and 4 
times instead of 2 and 3 times.

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

On my Watch Series 9,  two taps always works fine Harry

> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't know 
> if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
> haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one 
> of the recent updates.
> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
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> 
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS 
> version 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. 
> 
> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.
> 
> Smile.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
> is true for anyone else.
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Parham Doustdar
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Haptic time
> 
> Hi,
> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
> that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
> well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me 
> just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
> Hope that helps.
> 
>> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> 
>> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
>> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
>> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
>> settings?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Fanus
>> 
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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
 

 

Dan,

 

Yes, I am using my tips of my fingers. I even checked settings. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

 

No, you should not have to turn speech off, that is for silent use.  Are you 
tapping the screen with the tips of your fingers?  I find that if I use the 
pads of my fingers it doesn't work nearly as well.

 

Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

On 12/13/2023 11:13 AM, 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone wrote:

 

 

I have the Apple watch se and I am having such a hard time using the haptic 
time and I am deafblind and use my watch for an alarm also.

 

However, when I double tap for the time it take forever to even get the time.

 

So do I actually turn off speech for this wo work properly.

 

Thanks.

 

Linda

 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 08:15
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Subject: Re: Haptic time

 

Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids silent.  I found 
that I had to use the rotor and turn the sound volume down to near zero.  I 
also turn speech off so that v doesn't speak.  I can now use haptic time and my 
wife doesn't hear it at all.  I use it this way in a couple of other settings 
where I want no sound of any kind from my watch.

 

Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote:

Hello list 

I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
settings? 

Regards 

Fanus 

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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
 

 

Mary,

 

I am in your boat with this. I also reported this to apple. Nada.

 

I really don’t know what to do about it.

 

Linda C. Knight

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

 

This used to work reasonably reliably for me as Jen has described. However, it 
has been totally worthless for several months, after an upgrade I think to the 
previous iOS, I should say watchOS. I have it set to on, but whenever I do that 
double tap I always get speech which I don’t want. But I don’t want to turn 
speech completely off either. It used to work fine, and I have reported it to 
Apple to no avail.

Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 13, 2023, at 5:07 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I know a lot of people have troubles with this, but I don’t. What i do is tap 
the watch twice with 1 finger while it is asleep, and it will vibrate the time 
to me. The long vibrations are for tens of minutes or hours, and the short ones 
are for 1 through 9. It does work.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi  





On Dec 13, 2023, at 1:47 AM, Fanus mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello list

I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings?

Regards

Fanus


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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 



Christopher,

Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. 

But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.

Smile.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
is true for anyone else.

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Doustdar
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

Hi,
Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just 
the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
Hope that helps.

> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>
> Hello list
>
> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
> settings?
>
> Regards
>
> Fanus
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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
 

 

I have the Apple watch se and I am having such a hard time using the haptic 
time and I am deafblind and use my watch for an alarm also.

 

However, when I double tap for the time it take forever to even get the time.

 

So do I actually turn off speech for this wo work properly.

 

Thanks.

 

Linda

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 08:15
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

 

Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids silent.  I found 
that I had to use the rotor and turn the sound volume down to near zero.  I 
also turn speech off so that v doesn't speak.  I can now use haptic time and my 
wife doesn't hear it at all.  I use it this way in a couple of other settings 
where I want no sound of any kind from my watch.

 

Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote:

Hello list 

I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
settings? 

Regards 

Fanus 



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another question color identifier.

2023-12-10 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 



My color identifier died the other day and I had it for years. I can't
afford one right now, but does anyone know of a color identifier app  that
is pretty  much accessible?

Thanks.

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RE: answering a call

2023-12-10 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 



I've never heard of that. How do I get there in settings. 

Linda C. Knight


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And what about the double tap time out, have you tried to change it to 0.5 
seconds to see if that helps?

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I've been using the 2-finger double tap. 



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Can you be more specific? How do you answer your call, do you use a 2-finger 
double tap (magic tap) or do you find and tap the "Answer" button?
I have an iPhone 13 Pro and both methods work for me.
If you are on iOS 17.1 or 17.2 have you increased the double tap response time 
a little? This really made a difference for me with the issue where a double 
tap was simply registered as a single tap meaning you try to double tap say a 
home screen icon to open an app but instead you would simply put focus 
elsewhere on the screen.
This is in Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Double Tap Time Out.
I believe the default is 0.3 seconds and I changed it to 0.5 seconds on the 
recommendation of somebody else (sorry, forgot who it was).

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Hi all,

Is anyone on the list having an issue ansering a call intermittently?

I am. 

I have an iPhone 14 plus. Running latest update.
Thankks.

Linda c. Knight

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RE: answering a call

2023-12-10 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 



I've been using the 2-finger double tap. 



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Subject: RE: answering a call

Can you be more specific? How do you answer your call, do you use a 2-finger 
double tap (magic tap) or do you find and tap the "Answer" button?
I have an iPhone 13 Pro and both methods work for me.
If you are on iOS 17.1 or 17.2 have you increased the double tap response time 
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home screen icon to open an app but instead you would simply put focus 
elsewhere on the screen.
This is in Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Double Tap Time Out.
I believe the default is 0.3 seconds and I changed it to 0.5 seconds on the 
recommendation of somebody else (sorry, forgot who it was).

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Subject: answering a call



Hi all,

Is anyone on the list having an issue ansering a call intermittently?

I am. 

I have an iPhone 14 plus. Running latest update.
Thankks.

Linda c. Knight

Linda C. Knight and Gentle Ben and Mr. Crumb


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answering a call

2023-12-10 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 



Hi all,

Is anyone on the list having an issue ansering a call intermittently?

I am. 

I have an iPhone 14 plus. Running latest update.
Thankks.

Linda c. Knight

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RE: siri craziness

2023-12-10 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
 

 

Boy! I’m glad I’m not the only one having siri craziness.

 

I ask her to make a call and intermittently she doesn’t do it and it goes back 
to my home screen.

 

I’ve had that where I told her to send a text or a call and she gives me a web 
take a look junk. 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
Cook
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I have been having problems with it for a couple of days now.





On Dec 5, 2023, at 4:27 PM, Paula Jordan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:



Just wondering if anyone is having more than the usual problems with siri 
today?  I’ve asked siri to schedule a calendar appointment and she wants to 
show me something on the web about that.  I also asked her to send a text and 
she kept giving me the person’s phone number.  These are both new problems for 
me as of today.  Will also let apple accessibility know about these.

Just curious.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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RE: blood pressure monitors.

2022-11-29 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 



Janet,

This is linda knight here,

I have the Qardio blood pressure monitor and app.

I find it pretty accurate and it keeps your history. It works well with 
voiceover.

I hope this helps.

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please can anyone recommend a good blood pressure monitor and app if needed.  
thanks in advance, Janet

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Re: Need A New Money Reading App

2021-10-22 Thread 'Linda C Knight' via VIPhone 
Hi Carrie and all,

I also have the cash reader. I also have seeing ai. 

I really like cash reader

Linda C. Knight 

 Sent using Braille from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2021, at 09:44, Carrie Snodgrass  
> wrote:
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> The same thing happened to me. I decided to purchase the cash reader app at 
> the time because I was in a hurry, and it was one of the first apps to come 
> up. It is a subscription, but the app works very well and identifies the 
> bills very quickly. I have not yet researched free money reader apps, 
> although I should, but I am very happy with the cash reader app.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 22, 2021, at 9:37 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Guys,
>> 
>> I've had an app called Money Reader on my iPad Mini for a few years. It's 
>> been quite a while since I used it. I tried this morning and found out that 
>> it won't open now. I got the message that the app needs to be updated to 
>> work with this version of iOS, and an Okay button. When I click the Okay 
>> button. When I click the Okay button, the message disappears and I'm back to 
>> the list of apps.
>> 
>> So I guess I need to get one that will work with the latest version of iOS.
>> 
>> I'm looking for suggestions.
>> 
>> Thanks very much.
>> 
>> Evan
>> 
>> 
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