Re: Why Does Everyone Like iOS Alex so Much?

2017-10-20 Thread Nimer Jaber
ssage because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "VIPhone" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> >
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

2017-09-29 Thread Nimer Jaber
uestions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
>
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

2017-09-29 Thread Nimer Jaber
lete rotor
> option and double tap Voiceover tells you “Message Deleted”. I am amazed to
> receive such profound information, I mean I just performed the actions to
> delete a message, do I really need to hear that this is what I did?
>
> I guess it helps when you forget that the rotor is on delete now so when I
> double tap to open my next message maybe Apple should add an evil laughing
> sound after it says “Message deleted” or maybe the second time it should
> say “You idiot, you just deleted another message, don’t you remember that
> the default rotor action is not actually the default anymore”?
>
> In iOS 11.1 you can now also wait for Voiceover to entirely read the next
> message in your Inbox which means listening to where it came from, the
> subject and when it arrived, after all that is spoken Voiceover now does
> provide the helpful information “current action, delete”. I admit that is
> somewhat helpful, but how often do I actually want to listen to Voiceover
> reading all this stuff? I guess I could suggest that “Current action,
> delete” is spoken before Voiceover reads the message information, similar
> to how Voiceover will say “Unread” before unread messages, but that would
> mean I am satisfied with having delete as the default rotor action once you
> select that option where all I really want is for Apple to make the rotor
> go back to “Activate” where it should be.
>
>
>
> Lastly I would like you guys to click on Jonathan Mosen’s blog article 
> “Cupertino
> we have a design problem”.
> <http://mosen.org/cupertino-we-have-a-design-problem/>
>
> As always it is up to Jonathan’s usual high standard of a well-articulated
> and well-presented argument regarding this issue and while I have already
> borrowed some of his points to make my own, please do read it and then
> decide for yourself if this makes sense or not. There are probably a few
> people who think it does, but ask yourself what introducing such
> inconsistencies really accomplishes and where we will be in a few years,
> maybe down the road a double tap will only activate a button or a link or
> other item throughout the week and on Sundays Voiceover will tell you to
> enjoy your weekend instead and that you should really leave your phone
> alone and spend quality time with your family and friends. I know this is
> an unlikely example, but I just want to make the point again that Apple of
> all companies should follow their own teachings and make things consistent
> and easy to use instead of surprising us with different behaviour in
> different places. Of all things the Mail app is Apple’s own design and one
> could argue it’s almost part of the OS even though one can of course choose
> to use a third-party app for mail. If a developer decided that once delete
> is selected it essentially becomes the new default action I could maybe
> understand this because maybe they don’t know any better, but Apple should.
>
>
>
> Feel free to simply forward this entire message to Apple Accessibility if
> you don’t feel like writing your own and simply add your support, agreement
> and request to change this again at the beginning.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
>

Re: My phone now only rings once

2017-09-26 Thread Nimer Jaber
This has been an issue for a long, long, long, long time... and it only
seems to happen with some phones, and generally when the mute switch is on.
Incredibly annoying... I do hope it gets fixed eventually.

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 7:04 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Did you accidently turn auto answer on?
> Check Accessibility Settings > Call Audio Routing > Auto Answer Calls and
> make sure it is set to off and not 3 seconds or some other time interval.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:42 PM
> To: Listserv Viphone 
> Subject: My phone now only rings once
>
> My 6S now only rings once. How do I fix this?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: iPhone 8 speakers

2017-09-23 Thread Nimer Jaber
The layout did not change from the seven. There is a speaker on the bottom
right. And there’s a speaker in the earpiece.
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 3:01 PM Gordon  wrote:

> So does this phone have three speakers including the ear piece? I
> thought that the ear piece would double as a speaker like it does on the 7.
>
>
> On 9/23/2017 2:38 PM, juan mojena wrote:
> > I saw one at Best Buy today The speakers seem to be facing down not to
> the side and both speakers are on the bottom. Let me tell you, the volume
> coming out of the speakers don’t seem to be any  louder then the volume on
> my 6S plus. However, this is only an in store  subjective test. I didn’t
> have time to compare  or test the phones extensively.
> >
> > Juan
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Sep 23, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> >
> > I know a couple of you here on the group ordered your iPhone 8 phones.
> I'm wondering where the bottom speaker is located on this phone. Is it
> facing out like the bottom speaker on the 7, and what side is it on?
> >
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: wireless charging

2017-09-18 Thread Nimer Jaber
reach Cara at
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>> list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>> list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-16 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I am pretty sure that it will speed up charging on any iPhones, but
probably not to the same extent... Plugging the iPhone into an iPad charger
improves charging time significantly.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 11:07 PM Kevin Chao  wrote:

> Is this fast charging available only on the 2017 iPhones? Or, will it work
> on earlier iPhones if one gets the USB-C to lightning cable?
>
> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> You need a different cable as far as I know for Apple fast charging, I
>> believe it is a USB-C to Lightning.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Deb Lewis
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging
>>
>> I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two fast
>> charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or quite how
>> to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with the new
>> Iphones, can I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge for fast
>> charging them. All of the ports themselves look like standard USB ports.
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>> list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>> list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message ab

Re: upgrading from a 6+

2017-09-16 Thread Nimer Jaber
 options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: Alexa app on the iPhone

2017-09-13 Thread Nimer Jaber
You can, however, do this with the reverve app I believe it is... haven't
used it in a while, and if someone would like more info I will dig it up.

Thanks.

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 1:44 PM Aleeha Dudley 
wrote:

> Hi,
> You cannot talk to the Alexa app, it is only a method for accessing
> settings and features of the Echo device. You can access your messages and
> notifications, as well as enable and sign into new skills, but you can’t
> actually interact with Alexa through the app.
> HTH,
> Aleeha
> > On Sep 13, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have a client who just got an Echo Dot.
> > It is now setup on his iPhone.
> >
> > I do not have one, so wondered what the app provides you when you are
> not in the same room as the Echo Dot?
> > Can you verbally talk to the app and get responses?
> > I won't see him for a couple of weeks, so any tips on what the app does
> for you would be helpful.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Richard
> >
> > --
> > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
> >
> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >
> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >
> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> > ---
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "VIPhone" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> > 
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-

Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-14 Thread Nimer Jaber
e archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: Question: Deleting Apps in iOS 11

2017-07-03 Thread Nimer Jaber
This is a public beta... there is nothing proprietary about it...

You can delete an app by going to settings, General, Storage, and locating
the app you want to remove. double-tapping on it will present you with some
options. Delete is one of those options.

Thanks.

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:31 PM christopher hallsworth <
challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:

> Hi, if in doubt, don't discuss anything that is not public i.e. anything
> Apple hasn't published across their websites or did not discuss in the WWDC
> 2017 keynote. Just my £0.02 worth.
> > On 3 Jul 2017, at 20:30, Chris Smart  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Anyone know how to delete an app in iOS 11 public beta?
> > Double tap and hold, followed by double tap, no longer seems to work.
> >
> > Generally, is iOS 11 discussion allowed here?
> >
> > If so, another thing I've noticed is eratic reading in the Weather app.
> I no longer hear an hour by hour breakdown as I swipe right.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > "There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and
> cats." - Albert Schweitzer
> > --
> > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
> >
> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >
> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >
> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "VIPhone" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Tayl

Re: iOS Beta and installing previously installed apps

2017-06-30 Thread Nimer Jaber
This is not a private beta at this point, it is a public one, but point
taken about discussing betas.

On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 4:14 AM rajmund  wrote:

> which I haven't figured out how to, LOL. if someone can help, that will
> be awesome indeed. BTW, this is not to do with 32 bit apps, someone was
> recommending it
>
> On 30/06/17 9:49 AM, Portia Scott wrote:
> > The only way to supposedly get around it, is to install the apps via
> iTunes.
> >
> > On 6/30/17, Portia Scott  wrote:
> >> Yeah I know they don't want us discussing private betas, etc. However,
> >> just wanted to let you guys know this is a bug Apple has to fix.
> >>
> >> On 6/30/17, rajmund  wrote:
> >>> hi,
> >>> while we're not meant to discuss betas here, that bug, I can confirm.
> >>>
> >>> On 30/06/17 2:04 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't have beta but maybe the apps you're trying to install are no
> >>>> longer compatible being 32 bit?
> >>>> Good luc,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ioana
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Nimer Jaber 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am attempting to install apps I previously had installed on a new
> >>>>> device, however there is a bug where the button to install cannot be
> >>>>> found or located with VO. Does anyone have suggestions for a
> >>>>> work-around
> >>>>> that they have been able to get to work?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V
> iPhone
> >>>>> list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
> >>>>> or
> >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> >>>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara
> at
> >>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> >>>>> Groups
> >>>>> "VIPhone" group.
> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
> send
> >>>>> an
> >>>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> >>> list.
> >>>
> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
> or
> >>> if
> >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners
> >>> or
> >>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >>>
> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> >>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >>>
> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> >>> ---
> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups
> >>> "VIPhone" group.
> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> an
> >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/vip

iOS Beta and installing previously installed apps

2017-06-28 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I am attempting to install apps I previously had installed on a new device, 
however there is a bug where the button to install cannot be found or located 
with VO. Does anyone have suggestions for a work-around that they have been 
able to get to work?

Thanks.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Trails

2017-06-06 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I am looking for an accessible app that will aid in following trails. Does
anyone know of one which is accessible or recommended? An app which would
indicate rest areas, junctions, and just... aid in following a trail would
be super.

Thanks.
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: Google Assistant is now an iPhone app

2017-06-03 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

The google assistant is okay... it is great on Android, and is much better
than Siri at contextualization. However, on iOS, the first bunch of words
that are uttered by the assistant are presented at an extremely low volume,
before volume increases. I attempted to play around with audio ducking
options, however this did not fix the problem. Unfortunately, this is a
huge issue when out and about and trying to hear what it says... while you
can hear the content by using Voiceover, this is not always convenient,
especially hand-free... speaking of hands-free, there should be a way to
say okay google to trigger the assistant... there also should be a way to
trigger the assistant with a long-press of the home button if a user
chooses. In iOS, it seems that the only two options are using Siri, or
voice commands, whatever that means. Anyway, if you are okay with the
drawbacks of using this app at present, I do recommend it.

Thanks.
On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 22:31 Rafał Marzec  wrote:

> Not available in uk
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 4 Jun 2017, at 3:13 am, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just saw where Google Assistant now has an IOS app for iPhone and iPad…
>
> Don’t know how well it works yet but it should be fun to play with.  You
> can find it in the App Store.  Just type google assistant in the search box.
>
>
>
> -Steve
>
>
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than p

Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

2017-05-20 Thread Nimer Jaber
I also think it is fair to say that the apps on android or lower cost.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> One other advantage of Android I forgot to mention, it's much easier to 
> transfer content to and from an android device because it will show up like 
> any other drive when connected to a computer, and there are many file manager 
> applications available for Android. With IOS this is more difficult at times.
>> On May 20, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> I think it comes down to personal preference. As you have said, 
>> accessibility is equal on both platforms. The way the screen readers work is 
>> also similar. There are a couple of differences. Android is more 
>> configurable, it has less restrictions. Also, many think that Google's voice 
>> features are better. On the other hand, with IOS, all currently supported 
>> devices receive the software updates as soon as they are released. With 
>> Android, this is only the case with the devices sold by google. With other 
>> brands, you have to wait until the manufacturer or carrier decides to 
>> release the update, or install a custom rom such as cyanogen which tends to 
>> release updates much faster. Both platforms have many apps available, and in 
>> many cases, the same apps are available on both platforms. With IOS, you 
>> would need to make sure you like the form factor of one of the current 
>> iphones. Again, it really comes down to personal preferences. We actually 
>> have the same platform choices as sighted consumers, and can access them at 
>> no extra cost which is the way it should be.
>>> On May 20, 2017, at 2:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
>>> running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
>>> got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
>>> IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
>>> afford to get a new device, but I want some input here. Other than the 
>>> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. 
>>> Please don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is a 
>>> fallacy since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just 
>>> something that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS 
>>> again.
>>> thanks
>>> Doug.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "VIPhone" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> 

Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

2017-05-20 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

That would be the Google Pixel.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Which Google phone is the most current?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> It is true that each manufacturer customizes Android a bit differently, and 
>> as I said in the previous message, updates can be an issue. This is why I 
>> always suggest that if you want an android phone, get the unlocked phones 
>> sold by google, no odd customizations and very fast updates, nothing but 
>> advantages.
>>> On May 20, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular and Be My 
>>> Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another example.  It is really 
>>> easy to use a Braille display with IOS.  Just go into VoiceOver Settings, 
>>> Braille then pair it.  One thing that really annoys me about Android is 
>>> that from what I understand, each phone is laid out differently because 
>>> each manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you 
>>> learn one, you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.  Usually, 
>>> when I get a new iPhone, I am able to get it set up within an hour or less 
>>> then go on about my business.  What really annoys me about Android is that 
>>> not every phone gets updates.  That means that if I am one of the unlucky 
>>> people who has a phone that won't get Android O, I just have to read on 
>>> mailing lists about the kool features while I'm stuck on the earlier 
>>> version.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 20, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
 
 Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
 running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
 got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
 IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
 afford to get a new device, but I want some input here. Other than the 
 continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. 
 Please don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is 
 a fallacy since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just 
 something that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS 
 again.
 thanks
 Doug.
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
 list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
 mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
 caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
 --- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "VIPhone" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "VIPhone" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
>> mk...

Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

2017-05-20 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

For me, an iOS device is like having the equivalent of both the best of Google 
and Apple in your pocket. Most of Google's services are on iOS, and in some 
instances, they run better on iOS than android. Both platforms are drawing near 
to each other on features I would say, but android is more refined and polished 
in my opinion. Android groups notifications so much better than iOS. Droid 
offers so much flexibility, while still giving you access to many of the same 
blindness apps. Android apps seem more uniform, with where buttons and controls 
are placed and such. Multi-tasking on android is so much better because you can 
truly get two apps running side by side. I guess that is called multi-window. 
Google continues to update and enhance accessibilwhy features. One huge benefit 
is that Google has web views and the screen reader as separate apps, which 
makes it so much easier to update when bugs are found. You often do not need to 
wait for an OS update.

On the other hand, at the moment iOS braille support is much more refined, 
although this will change very soon. IPhones are more premium than many android 
phones, but not others. They receive updates for longer. They tend to just work 
without lots of battery drain, and general instability. IOs has more useful 
accessibility features, although Google continues to enhance their access 
offerings. Continuity is huge, and Google cannot match it, not even with Chrome 
OS. The closest you will get is by using timething like pushbullet. The apple 
ecosystem of peripherals for an iPhone is huge. Apple support is, by far, 
class-leading. Google does not have a uniform accessibility team company-wide, 
so different Google products will implement accessibility in different ways. I 
only hope they work more closely together in future. Apple's commitment to 
inclusion is company-wide, and includes the accessibility and usability of all 
of their apps and services, from the very first unboxing, and supports 
accessibility for even their development platform and any diagnostic modes in 
their products. Finally, one that many may not care too much about... IPhones 
are unsurpassed in most benchmarks, and what Apple can do with their hardware 
when software is written and designed specifically for that hardware is quite 
impressive.

I do miss android... Apple has many quirks, and still not as much flexibility. 
I cannot customize an iUS device the same as an Android device. I have widgets 
on one page of my home screen, but I cannot move them around, and app devs seem 
to not have as much control over what widgets can be on Android. Notifications 
drive me insane... I would, at the very least, love an option to clear 
notifications by app, even if they are not categorized that way. I miss my app 
drawer... This idea that all apps show up on install on a page without the 
ability to have them auto-sorted or anything is annoying. I hate not having 
file explorer access, particularly if I connect my device to the computer and 
want to transfer files. I switched to iOS mostly for philosophical reasons, and 
I do enjoy updates, stability, a connected ecosystem, and a commitment and 
willingness to do accessibility right. I very much miss my android though, and 
Apple adding a dvorak keyboard layout would go a long way to getting me feeling 
more comfortable with all that I am missing.

I tried to be objective, giving my assessments of both platforms. I do not 
pretend to know all things, so if I am missing something or if I did not get 
something right, please let me know.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 3:19 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> I guess because I started out using IOS, I just never could get used to using 
> Talk Back. It just seems nearly inpossible to accomplish anything with it. 
> With IOS, I am very proficient at using it. I don't know if I didn't have the 
> settings customized to work well with Talk Back or what, but I hated it and 
> totally gave up on using my Android phone and my tablet.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ryan Mann
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
> 
> Out of curiosity, what did you dislike about TalkBack?  I couldn't get the 
> angle gestures to work consistantly.  On the other hand, I can use the rotor 
> even when I'm half asleep.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, at 12:12 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> 
>> I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive, 
>> but so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for 
>> me. I tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of 
>> them. It is IOS all the way for me.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Wayne Scott
>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
>> 
>> IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha I h

Re: Best mail client, particulary for threading

2017-05-18 Thread Nimer Jaber
Thank you so much, this is extremely helpful. I wish there was a way to get
it to do it automatically though, but this is great.
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:01 AM Julian  wrote:

> In iOS 10, to get a message preview simply do a three finger single tap
> when you have the message in focus.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 18, 2017, at 9:42 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>
> Thank you so much for this overview. One of my problems is that when I
> navigate to the message, for example message to a five, I then him not
> necessarily able to always pick up from that point and begin reading.
> Sometimes, I am bounce to the top or torn other random location on the
> screen. Also, for some reason, even though I have it set to display the
> first few lines of a message, this does not seem to happen. I often like
> getting the snapshots of the message, as it may mean that I don't even open
> up a message. Is this something that you experience?
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:30 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
>
>> Are you aware that the iOS mail app has a "Messages" rotor item? When you
>> open a message in a thread make sure the rotor is set to Messages, then
>> flick up or down with one finger and Voiceover announces if you are on
>> message 1 of 5, 2 of 5 etc (that is of course assuming there are 5 messages
>> in the thread). You can set it in Mail settings so either the newest
>> message is Message 1 or the oldest. I really like how Apple has done this,
>> at the beginning of each message Voiceover reads who the message is from
>> and the date/time I think, but not the entire header.
>> You can also flick down when you are on a thread before you double tap on
>> it to "expand thread", double tap it and the thread will expand and you can
>> then flick right through all the messages. If you want to delete an
>> individual message in a thread but not the entire thread this is also the
>> way to do this. If you are on the first message in the thread you can flick
>> down again and find the "collapse thread" option.
>> Outlook is considered to be an excellent mail client for the iPhone, but
>> I must say that I prefer the native mail app and really like its features.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Best mail client, particulary for threading
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>> I m writing to ask about an accessible mail client for the iPhone. I am
>> especially inerested in what works best for threading. The mail client that
>> comes with the iPhone makes it too easy to miss messages, because when I
>> read a threaded conversation, I often end up trying to read the messages in
>> order, however pressing next does not aways begin reading the next message,
>> and exploring on screen sometimes puts me in another message rather than
>> the one I intended to read. I tried Outlook, however messages are placed
>> most recent first, and it becomes more difficult to read a thread in order
>> in which messages are sent. It also did not seem to have a way of jumping
>> quickly to the next message in a thread, so a message with signatures could
>> take too much time to read. I could not find a way to re-sort messages.
>> Finally, I tried Inbox, which was my client of choice on Android. It is my
>> favorite by far, because messages are sorted the way I like them to be,
>> signatures do not appear unless expanded, reading the first few lines of a
>> message actually works, etc etc but threading experiences the same issue as
>> with the apple mail client where messages are not easily read, and
>> sometimes skipped because there does not seem to be a reliable way of
>> jumping to the content of the next message in a thread.
>>
>> Are other users experiencing these behaviors? I do enjoy using threading,
>> and I hope that a better email client exists. If I am missing a setting
>> that can help, please let me know.
>>
>> Please excuse any errors, I am typing this using the braille input on a
>> bus.@Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>> list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Tayl

Re: Best mail client, particulary for threading

2017-05-18 Thread Nimer Jaber
Thank you so much for this overview. One of my problems is that when I
navigate to the message, for example message to a five, I then him not
necessarily able to always pick up from that point and begin reading.
Sometimes, I am bounce to the top or torn other random location on the
screen. Also, for some reason, even though I have it set to display the
first few lines of a message, this does not seem to happen. I often like
getting the snapshots of the message, as it may mean that I don't even open
up a message. Is this something that you experience?
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:30 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Are you aware that the iOS mail app has a "Messages" rotor item? When you
> open a message in a thread make sure the rotor is set to Messages, then
> flick up or down with one finger and Voiceover announces if you are on
> message 1 of 5, 2 of 5 etc (that is of course assuming there are 5 messages
> in the thread). You can set it in Mail settings so either the newest
> message is Message 1 or the oldest. I really like how Apple has done this,
> at the beginning of each message Voiceover reads who the message is from
> and the date/time I think, but not the entire header.
> You can also flick down when you are on a thread before you double tap on
> it to "expand thread", double tap it and the thread will expand and you can
> then flick right through all the messages. If you want to delete an
> individual message in a thread but not the entire thread this is also the
> way to do this. If you are on the first message in the thread you can flick
> down again and find the "collapse thread" option.
> Outlook is considered to be an excellent mail client for the iPhone, but I
> must say that I prefer the native mail app and really like its features.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Best mail client, particulary for threading
>
>
>
> Hello,
> I m writing to ask about an accessible mail client for the iPhone. I am
> especially inerested in what works best for threading. The mail client that
> comes with the iPhone makes it too easy to miss messages, because when I
> read a threaded conversation, I often end up trying to read the messages in
> order, however pressing next does not aways begin reading the next message,
> and exploring on screen sometimes puts me in another message rather than
> the one I intended to read. I tried Outlook, however messages are placed
> most recent first, and it becomes more difficult to read a thread in order
> in which messages are sent. It also did not seem to have a way of jumping
> quickly to the next message in a thread, so a message with signatures could
> take too much time to read. I could not find a way to re-sort messages.
> Finally, I tried Inbox, which was my client of choice on Android. It is my
> favorite by far, because messages are sorted the way I like them to be,
> signatures do not appear unless expanded, reading the first few lines of a
> message actually works, etc etc but threading experiences the same issue as
> with the apple mail client where messages are not easily read, and
> sometimes skipped because there does not seem to be a reliable way of
> jumping to the content of the next message in a thread.
>
> Are other users experiencing these behaviors? I do enjoy using threading,
> and I hope that a better email client exists. If I am missing a setting
> that can help, please let me know.
>
> Please excuse any errors, I am typing this using the braille input on a
> bus.@Sent from my iPhone
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
&g

Best mail client, particulary for threading

2017-05-18 Thread Nimer Jaber


Hello,
I m writing to ask about an accessible mail client for the iPhone. I am 
especially inerested in what works best for threading. The mail client that 
comes with the iPhone makes it too easy to miss messages, because when I read a 
threaded conversation, I often end up trying to read the messages in order, 
however pressing next does not aways begin reading the next message, and 
exploring on screen sometimes puts me in another message rather than the one I 
intended to read. I tried Outlook, however messages are placed most recent 
first, and it becomes more difficult to read a thread in order in which 
messages are sent. It also did not seem to have a way of jumping quickly to the 
next message in a thread, so a message with signatures could take too much time 
to read. I could not find a way to re-sort messages. Finally, I tried Inbox, 
which was my client of choice on Android. It is my favorite by far, because 
messages are sorted the way I like them to be, signatures do not appear unless 
expanded, reading the first few lines of a message actually works, etc etc but 
threading experiences the same issue as with the apple mail client where 
messages are not easily read, and sometimes skipped because there does not seem 
to be a reliable way of jumping to the content of the next message in a thread.

Are other users experiencing these behaviors? I do enjoy using threading, and I 
hope that a better email client exists. If I am missing a setting that can 
help, please let me know.

Please excuse any errors, I am typing this using the braille input on a 
bus.@Sent from my iPhone

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Nimer Jaber
I am in the u.s. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2017, at 9:27 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I may have missed part of this thread.
> What country are you in?
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nimer Jaber
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
>  
> When I am traveling, I do not wish to pull my phone out of my pocket to ask 
> Siri about my location when, at minimum, the app ought to give me 
> intersection announcements and POI's as advertised, and I have found that 
> this is very spotty. I should say that the places where this was tested get 
> excellent GPS reception, and the device used is an iPhone 7ing
>  
> Also, the unlabeled item is in the location tab... It states "submenu button" 
> which, in my mind, needs a description about what is contained in that 
> menu... and the map is completely useless for a voiceover user.
>  
> Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need 
> it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other 
> large cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be 
> unreliable. I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have 
> currently a 3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk 
> quite fast and so far the app seems to give me information about 
> intersections in time. Apart from that I don’t care too much if it tells me 
> every 5 seconds that I’m on so and so street since I usually know what street 
> I’m on and if I want on demand information I just ask SIRI “What is my 
> current location” and it tells me the address with street name or an address 
> range with street name.
> Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d 
> like to take a look as I don’t recall one.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nimer Jaber
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
> 
> How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
> does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
> concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
> with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.
> 
> Thanks.
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
> funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
> think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing 
> Eye app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some 
> degree on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s 
> interface is cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I 
> experienced a situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where 
> Blindsquare had no map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate 
> instructions.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM
> 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. 
> when folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they 
> would need to secure more funding.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Nimer Jaber
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
> 
> I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me 
> not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are 
> work-arounds, please let me know:
> 
> Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I want 
> announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is busy 
> and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
> The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the app 
> says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the 
> device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at 
> times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like 
> intersection descriptions though...
> The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone 

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

When I am traveling, I do not wish to pull my phone out of my pocket to ask 
Siri about my location when, at minimum, the app ought to give me intersection 
announcements and POI's as advertised, and I have found that this is very 
spotty. I should say that the places where this was tested get excellent GPS 
reception, and the device used is an iPhone 7ing

Also, the unlabeled item is in the location tab... It states "submenu button" 
which, in my mind, needs a description about what is contained in that menu... 
and the map is completely useless for a voiceover user.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need 
> it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other 
> large cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be 
> unreliable. I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have 
> currently a 3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk 
> quite fast and so far the app seems to give me information about 
> intersections in time. Apart from that I don’t care too much if it tells me 
> every 5 seconds that I’m on so and so street since I usually know what street 
> I’m on and if I want on demand information I just ask SIRI “What is my 
> current location” and it tells me the address with street name or an address 
> range with street name.
> Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d 
> like to take a look as I don’t recall one.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nimer Jaber
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
> 
> How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
> does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
> concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
> with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.
> 
> Thanks.
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
> funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
> think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing 
> Eye app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some 
> degree on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s 
> interface is cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I 
> experienced a situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where 
> Blindsquare had no map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate 
> instructions.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM
> 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. 
> when folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they 
> would need to secure more funding.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Nimer Jaber
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
> 
> I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me 
> not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are 
> work-arounds, please let me know:
> 
> Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I want 
> announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is busy 
> and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
> The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the app 
> says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the 
> device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at 
> times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like 
> intersection descriptions though...
> The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and I often 
> did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15 seconds can 
> be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you receive accurate 
> information.
> Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
> Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's name on it. 
> It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did not see fit to 
> make the maps accessible, or at the very least to

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How
well does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a
vehicle? My concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I
would disagree with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.

Thanks.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive
> funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I
> think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing
> Eye app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some
> degree on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s
> interface is cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I
> experienced a situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where
> Blindsquare had no map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate
> instructions.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
>
>
>
> One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation.
> when folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they
> would need to secure more funding.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Nimer Jaber 
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me
> not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are
> work-arounds, please let me know:
>
>- Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what
>I want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the
>interface is busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
>- The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as
>the app says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even
>when the device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or
>more at times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did
>like intersection descriptions though...
>- The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm,
>and I often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but
>15 seconds can be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you
>receive accurate information.
>- Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
>- Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's
>name on it. It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did
>not see fit to make the maps accessible, or at the very least to provide an
>alternative to the inaccessible maps.
>- Terrible button descriptions: One of them just says menu... While I
>can explore and press things until I figure out what they do, who is this
>app for? Was it designed for the techy that doesn't care about button
>descriptions and labels?
>- Finally, the price... The map data this app uses, so far as I can
>tell, is free. There may be an up-front cost to provide this to the user, I
>am not sure... but I believe there is not. What is the user being charged
>for exactly? If it is for app improvements, then I am really appalled that,
>in all the time this app has been on the appstore, this is the best the
>devs can do.
>
>
>
> I am critical of this app, but I am hoping someone can set me straight or
> tell me what I am missing here. I am glad they offer a free trial,
> otherwise I would be requesting a refund. I cannot recommend anybody
> serious about independent navigation use this app. Intersection
> descriptions are about the best thing this app does right. While that is
> useful, I am not sure that that is worth paying a recurring subscription or
> $299.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:54 AM Giller, Anna 
> wrote:
>
> I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Feliciano Godoy
> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
>
>
>
> On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby
> explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby
> explorer was said to u

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Nimer Jaber
Oh cool, thanks!! You are. great!! Not sure how I didn't think to check
there... Truly appreciate it!!

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:47 PM Lisa Belville 
wrote:

> Hi.  The stock compass app can give you long/lat readings, though not
> automatically.  I'm not aware of an accessible GPS that does this.  If you
> don't need a continuous reading of this information, the compass should
> work
> just fine.
>
> It's usually in the utilities folder by default.
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and
> procrastinate all at once.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nimer Jaber" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:29 AM
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me
> not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are
> work-arounds, please let me know:
>
>
>- Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I
>want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the
> interface
>is busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
>- The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the
>app says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even
> when
>the device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or
> more
>at times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did
> like
>intersection descriptions though...
>- The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and
>I often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15
>seconds can be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you
>receive accurate information.
>- Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
>- Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's name
>on it. It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did
> not
>see fit to make the maps accessible, or at the very least to provide an
>alternative to the inaccessible maps.
>- Terrible button descriptions: One of them just says menu... While I
>can explore and press things until I figure out what they do, who is
> this
>app for? Was it designed for the techy that doesn't care about button
>descriptions and labels?
>- Finally, the price... The map data this app uses, so far as I can
>tell, is free. There may be an up-front cost to provide this to the
> user,
> I
>am not sure... but I believe there is not. What is the user being
> charged
>for exactly? If it is for app improvements, then I am really appalled
> that,
>in all the time this app has been on the appstore, this is the best the
>devs can do.
>
>
> I am critical of this app, but I am hoping someone can set me straight or
> tell me what I am missing here. I am glad they offer a free trial,
> otherwise I would be requesting a refund. I cannot recommend anybody
> serious about independent navigation use this app. Intersection
> descriptions are about the best thing this app does right. While that is
> useful, I am not sure that that is worth paying a recurring subscription or
> $299.
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:54 AM Giller, Anna 
> wrote:
>
> > I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> > Behalf Of *Feliciano Godoy
> > *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
> >
> >
> >
> > On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby
> > explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby
> > explorer was said to use foursquare for its maps, blindsquare was
> > superior.
> > I don't care much for the intersection analysis as i use my auditory
> > senses
> > for that.  BlindSquare provided more accurate information and more points
> > of interest.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Feliciano
> >
> > For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
> >
> > Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
> >
> >
> > On May 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> >
> > I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app
> > over Blindsquare because of the detailed intersection information I get
> as
> > well as because Blindsquare use

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me
not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are
work-arounds, please let me know:


   - Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I
   want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface
   is busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
   - The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the
   app says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when
   the device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more
   at times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like
   intersection descriptions though...
   - The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and
   I often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15
   seconds can be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you
   receive accurate information.
   - Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
   - Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's name
   on it. It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did not
   see fit to make the maps accessible, or at the very least to provide an
   alternative to the inaccessible maps.
   - Terrible button descriptions: One of them just says menu... While I
   can explore and press things until I figure out what they do, who is this
   app for? Was it designed for the techy that doesn't care about button
   descriptions and labels?
   - Finally, the price... The map data this app uses, so far as I can
   tell, is free. There may be an up-front cost to provide this to the user, I
   am not sure... but I believe there is not. What is the user being charged
   for exactly? If it is for app improvements, then I am really appalled that,
   in all the time this app has been on the appstore, this is the best the
   devs can do.


I am critical of this app, but I am hoping someone can set me straight or
tell me what I am missing here. I am glad they offer a free trial,
otherwise I would be requesting a refund. I cannot recommend anybody
serious about independent navigation use this app. Intersection
descriptions are about the best thing this app does right. While that is
useful, I am not sure that that is worth paying a recurring subscription or
$299.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:54 AM Giller, Anna 
wrote:

> I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Feliciano Godoy
> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
>
>
>
> On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby
> explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby
> explorer was said to use foursquare for its maps, blindsquare was superior.
> I don't care much for the intersection analysis as i use my auditory senses
> for that.  BlindSquare provided more accurate information and more points
> of interest.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Feliciano
>
> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>
>
> On May 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app
> over Blindsquare because of the detailed intersection information I get as
> well as because Blindsquare uses Open Street Maps which I have in several
> instances found to be less reliable than Google Maps which I believe is
> what the Seeing Eye app uses and I think also Nearby Explorer.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 6:03 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, if you would consider buying Seeing Eye GPS, you may as well just
> buy the iOS version of Nearby Explorer since it is significantly less
> expensive.
>
> Or, a combination of Blind Square with Google Maps is almost as good as
> Nearby Explorer.
>
> I don't know about the latitude/longitude option with any of the apps
> since I do not use it.
>
> I hope you find a good combination.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> On May 15, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Marie  wrote:
>
> I find that a combination of Blind Square and either Apple maps or Google
> maps does everything I need because Blind Square continues to run and give
> you points of interest and intersections while the other app gives you turn
> by turn.
>
> Marie
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 

Re: Password Manager

2017-05-15 Thread Nimer Jaber
Thanks so much.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 3:24 PM Cristóbal  wrote:

> On my iPhone and two Windows machines. I have the family plan and have a
> mixture of Windows, iOSAndroid users included. So far, everyone’s happy
> with it.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Nimer Jaber
>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:22 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Password Manager
>
>
>
> Thank you for the recommendation. Is this something that you are using?
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM Cristóbal  wrote:
>
> 1password checks all the boxes you’re requesting.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Nimer Jaber
> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:05 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Password Manager
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I am looking for a good password manager that works cross-platform,
> preferably one with some sort of an online option... This takes away a
> small amount of security, however is more convenient. I do not wish to sync
> databases with Google Drive. Also, it should be accessible on multiple
> platforms such as Windows, Android, Mac OS, and iOS. It should also have
> 2fa as an option. I have been using Lastpass, however it has seen some
> accessibility regressions in Firefox recently. Any thoughts? Even if you
> aren't sure if one would meet my needs, what do you use as a password
> manager, or are you reliant on iOS keychain?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> Cordially,
>
> Nimer Jaber
>
> My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
> available to me.
> My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
> personal responsibility.
>
>
>
> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
> addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
> please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
> correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
> by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
> criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
> attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
> up to you. Thanks.
>
> Registered Linux User 529141.
> http://counter.li.org/
>
> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
> and above, please click here:
> http://www.nvda-project.org
>
> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
>
> To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
> (218-606-0475 <(218)%20606-0475>) and I will do my best to respond to you
> promptly. Thank
> you, and have a great day!
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group,

Re: Password Manager

2017-05-15 Thread Nimer Jaber
Thank you for the recommendation. Is this something that you are using?

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM Cristóbal  wrote:

> 1password checks all the boxes you’re requesting.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Nimer Jaber
> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:05 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Password Manager
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I am looking for a good password manager that works cross-platform,
> preferably one with some sort of an online option... This takes away a
> small amount of security, however is more convenient. I do not wish to sync
> databases with Google Drive. Also, it should be accessible on multiple
> platforms such as Windows, Android, Mac OS, and iOS. It should also have
> 2fa as an option. I have been using Lastpass, however it has seen some
> accessibility regressions in Firefox recently. Any thoughts? Even if you
> aren't sure if one would meet my needs, what do you use as a password
> manager, or are you reliant on iOS keychain?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> Cordially,
>
> Nimer Jaber
>
> My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
> available to me.
> My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
> personal responsibility.
>
>
>
> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
> addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
> please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
> correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
> by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
> criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
> attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
> up to you. Thanks.
>
> Registered Linux User 529141.
> http://counter.li.org/
>
> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
> and above, please click here:
> http://www.nvda-project.org
>
> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
>
> To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
> (218-606-0475 <(218)%20606-0475>) and I will do my best to respond to you
> promptly. Thank
> you, and have a great day!
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipi

Re: OCR Apps

2017-05-15 Thread Nimer Jaber
Will check out Goggles... Used it on Android, but it hasn't been updated or
received much love in many years.

Thanks.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 3:17 PM Nimer Jaber  wrote:

> Great, thanks! Does this app have features for page alignment? Not
> necessary, as I can take an adequate picture without it, but still nice...
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 3:13 PM Aleeha Dudley 
> wrote:
>
>> While KNFB is excellent and I do own a copy, Prizmo Go is a very nice
>> free option that will work almost as well as the reader.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 15, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am looking for someone that has used different OCR apps to reflect on
>> their experiences. I purchased the KNFB app for Android, and am hesitating
>> to purchase it again on iOS as it is costly, and on Android, the app would
>> break after every update. However, if it is believed that the results are
>> superior from any other app, I will consider it... Which OCR apps have you
>> used, did you find them to work, and which one would you recommend?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> --
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Nimer Jaber
>>
>> My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all
>> tools available to me.
>> My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
>> personal responsibility.
>>
>> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
>> addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
>> please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
>> correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
>> by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
>> criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
>> attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
>> up to you. Thanks.
>>
>> Registered Linux User 529141.
>> http://counter.li.org/
>>
>> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
>> and above, please click here:
>> http://www.nvda-project.org
>>
>> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
>>
>> To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
>> (218-606-0475 <(218)%20606-0475>) and I will do my best to respond to
>> you promptly. Thank
>> you, and have a great day!
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>> list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>> list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.goo

Re: OCR Apps

2017-05-15 Thread Nimer Jaber
Great, thanks! Does this app have features for page alignment? Not
necessary, as I can take an adequate picture without it, but still nice...

Thanks.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 3:13 PM Aleeha Dudley 
wrote:

> While KNFB is excellent and I do own a copy, Prizmo Go is a very nice free
> option that will work almost as well as the reader.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 15, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for someone that has used different OCR apps to reflect on
> their experiences. I purchased the KNFB app for Android, and am hesitating
> to purchase it again on iOS as it is costly, and on Android, the app would
> break after every update. However, if it is believed that the results are
> superior from any other app, I will consider it... Which OCR apps have you
> used, did you find them to work, and which one would you recommend?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Cordially,
>
> Nimer Jaber
>
> My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
> available to me.
> My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
> personal responsibility.
>
> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
> addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
> please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
> correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
> by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
> criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
> attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
> up to you. Thanks.
>
> Registered Linux User 529141.
> http://counter.li.org/
>
> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
> and above, please click here:
> http://www.nvda-project.org
>
> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
>
> To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
> (218-606-0475 <(218)%20606-0475>) and I will do my best to respond to you
> promptly. Thank
> you, and have a great day!
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges.

GPS Apps

2017-05-15 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

On Android, I used Nearby Explorer. I contacted the dev to see if they
would offer some sort of a discount as I already purchased their app once,
however was told I would need to pay for the app. On Android, I found it
quite good as I could choose what I wanted to be announced, and I could
choose whether to use onboard or online maps. It had features that no other
app used. I am considering purchasing the app on iOS, however I am
interested in others' experiences with navigation apps. I am looking for an
app which will announce intersections accurately as I approach them, as
well as points of interest. It would be good if it offered turn-by-turn
navigation, although I would mostly use Google Maps for that. Getting
heading is good. Rarely, lat/long is good as well, as I do enjoy getting
out to geocache from time to time.

So, any thoughts? It's fine if it is more than one app... Will BlindSquare
meet my needs? Should I consider the Seeing Eye GPS? Any other apps that I
should have on my list?

Thanks all.
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


OCR Apps

2017-05-15 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I am looking for someone that has used different OCR apps to reflect on
their experiences. I purchased the KNFB app for Android, and am hesitating
to purchase it again on iOS as it is costly, and on Android, the app would
break after every update. However, if it is believed that the results are
superior from any other app, I will consider it... Which OCR apps have you
used, did you find them to work, and which one would you recommend?

Thanks.
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Password Manager

2017-05-15 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I am looking for a good password manager that works cross-platform,
preferably one with some sort of an online option... This takes away a
small amount of security, however is more convenient. I do not wish to sync
databases with Google Drive. Also, it should be accessible on multiple
platforms such as Windows, Android, Mac OS, and iOS. It should also have
2fa as an option. I have been using Lastpass, however it has seen some
accessibility regressions in Firefox recently. Any thoughts? Even if you
aren't sure if one would meet my needs, what do you use as a password
manager, or are you reliant on iOS keychain?

Thanks.
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

2017-05-12 Thread Nimer Jaber
I think the other annoyance of using a 3rd-party keyboard is that you then
lose things like dictation, and Braille Screen Input unless you switch back
to the iOS keyboard... at least that is how it seems to work for me. Is
everyone on list using the default iOS input methods? If not, what other
input methods have you tried and had success with?

Thanks.

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:07 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Have you tried the one in the app store called Dvorak for all? It is free,
> and while it doesn't echo the words after you finish typing, it seems
> accessible to me.
> If you contacted the developer, he may be able to make some changes to
> make it more useful with VoiceOver.
> Here is the app store link:
> Dvorak for All by Anouk Stein, M.D.
> https://appsto.re/us/zx_t3.i
>
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> Noun: trumpery
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
> This definition is from WordWeb
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
>
> > On May 11, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am writing to inquire if anyone has found any accessible DVORAK
> keyboard layout solution. I have looked, however have not been successful.
> I found a few keyboards on the appstore, however none of the ones I tried
> were accessible. Unfortunately, iOS does not have a dvorak layout. I would
> appreciate any advice with this.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > --
> > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
> >
> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >
> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >
> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> > ---
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "VIPhone" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

2017-05-12 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I will contact the dev. I had tried it, but ran into letters/words not
speaking, sometimes letters not being typed, letters not being echoed as I
backspaced, etc... but I will give it another go, and will reach out to the
dev to see if they are willing to make some improvements.

Thanks for the suggestion.

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:07 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Have you tried the one in the app store called Dvorak for all? It is free,
> and while it doesn't echo the words after you finish typing, it seems
> accessible to me.
> If you contacted the developer, he may be able to make some changes to
> make it more useful with VoiceOver.
> Here is the app store link:
> Dvorak for All by Anouk Stein, M.D.
> https://appsto.re/us/zx_t3.i
>
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> Noun: trumpery
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
> This definition is from WordWeb
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
>
> > On May 11, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am writing to inquire if anyone has found any accessible DVORAK
> keyboard layout solution. I have looked, however have not been successful.
> I found a few keyboards on the appstore, however none of the ones I tried
> were accessible. Unfortunately, iOS does not have a dvorak layout. I would
> appreciate any advice with this.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > --
> > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
> >
> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >
> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >
> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> > ---
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "VIPhone" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

-- 
The following information is importa

Dvorak keyboard layout

2017-05-11 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I am writing to inquire if anyone has found any accessible DVORAK keyboard 
layout solution. I have looked, however have not been successful. I found a few 
keyboards on the appstore, however none of the ones I tried were accessible. 
Unfortunately, iOS does not have a dvorak layout. I would appreciate any advice 
with this.

Thanks.


Sent from my iPhone

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Introducing myself

2017-05-11 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

My name is Nimer Jaber. I am writing to introduce myself. I am a new iPhone 
user, and just made the switch from Android. I am used to iOS however, as I am 
a technology instructor at the Lighthouse Center for vision loss in Duluth, MN.

I am looking forward to my time on list, and to heping out as I can. I do have 
a question, but I will ask it on another thread.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


<    1   2