RE: Voiceover navigating bluetooth keyboard

2018-09-26 Thread amedlar1 
I think BT keyboards vary.  
Here are some of my notes but sometimes keys have multiple functions.  
Quick Nav on off left and right arrow keys together
Keyboard help VO+K, escape to close help
UP+down arrowKeys  together is like double tapping 
go to Home screen VO+H
go to app switcher VO+HH 
Close App OptionKey+UpArrow
Move between pages:  OptionKey+RightArrow back OptionKey+leftArrow 
Top of Page control+upArrow

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Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover navigating bluetooth keyboard

Hi all, I have chose a bluetooth keyboard and currently trying it out. I have a 
few VO questions.

Mostly I’m wondering if it is a Voiceover thing or the hardware keyboard. 
Navigating with control-option-command is not responsive most of the time.

Quick-nav seems to come on and off frequently. Is there a rotor setting for 
quick-nav?

Is there a way to force the onscreen keyboard to appear?

Lastly, how do I get to the top of the screen with the keyboard?

Thank you,
Traci
PS. I must say, I love typing this way. It is faster for me than even my 
braille display.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
Thanks.  


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Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

I call my SE my 6S in minature. It came out March of 2016, and the 6S came out 
September of 2015, thus it’s the 6S in miniature and cheaper.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 1:00 p. m., Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
escribió:

> SE is 6. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
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> What is IPhone SE, what number?  
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> 
> On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or 
> so it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.
> 
> Gera
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> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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> El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m.,   > mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> 
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>I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
> mail and texts…
> 
>Upgraded to IOS 12.
> 
>I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  
> 
>Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
> 
>Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 
> GB.  
> 
>Is IOS 12 this big?  
> 
>Thanks,
> 
>Ann
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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
Thanks.  I hope to stay with IPhone6 for as long as possible.  I have some app 
updates for IOS12 but do not think I will update unless apps stop working.


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Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

I call my SE my 6S in minature. It came out March of 2016, and the 6S came out 
September of 2015, thus it’s the 6S in miniature and cheaper.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 1:00 p. m., Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
escribió:

> SE is 6. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
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> What is IPhone SE, what number?  
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> Gerardo Corripio
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> 
> On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or 
> so it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.
> 
> Gera
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> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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> El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m.,   > mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> 
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>I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited 
> mail and texts…
> 
>Upgraded to IOS 12.
> 
>I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  
> 
>Deleted some apps but did not free up much space
> 
>Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 
> GB.  
> 
>Is IOS 12 this big?  
> 
>Thanks,
> 
>Ann
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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
Thanks, what is DFU?  

I have 27 apps or 25%, Facebook largest at 513 MB.  

I have 144 photos which is 78.1 MB.  

1.79 GB space available.

Version 12.0 168366 

All above seems okay but next time I’ll install from ITunes.  At least that is 
what I read on web.

I did a backup today to this PC.  

I forgot when I first tried to upgrade to IOS 12 I got an error.  Tried again 
and successful message.

  

 

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Jim Weiss
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:42 PM
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There is nothing for you to manually clean-up after an install.  Once you have 
a good install on the device the installer performs the clean-up.

Keep in mind not all developers do a nice and tidy clean-up, Facebook comes to 
mind.  My current Facebook app is consuming 1 GB of space on my 8 Plus.  The 
only real way to reduce that back down to about 140 MB is to delete the app, 
and download the app again.  Since I typically do a DFU reset on my phones once 
a year I typically don’t worry about apps that don’t clean-up nicely after 
themselves.

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On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:58 PM, amedl...@gmail.com   
wrote:

 

How do I clean up after install?  Thanks.

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Weiss
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

The download sizes vary between the different devices.  For example I have an 
iPhone 8 Plus and an iPhone 8 and there are two different downloads required 
when updating each device.

I have updated my 8 Plus and the download to disk was just shy of 4 GB, my 
updated phone shows that the iOS is using almost 10 GB on the actual phone.  
The downloaded file is a compressed file which is extracted, installed and then 
cleaned up.  The physical install file is still on my Mac hard drive, but any 
temporary files used during install should be cleaned up after a successful 
install onto the phone.

Jim Weiss

jimweiss...@gmail.com  


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yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you 
know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go…” | Dr. Seuss






On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Marie mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Wouldn’t the end result be the current IOS plus the amount of GB in the 
download?

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:59 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

I have an iPhone 6S Plus and if I go to Settings > General > iPhone Storage it 
says for System at the very bottom 8.74 Gigabytes.

My phone is a 64Gb model and at the top it says that I am using only 18.7 
Gigabytes of my 64 Gigabytes.

If the System takes up 8.74 GB that means I am using 9.96 for apps, here Auible 
uses the most storage because I have several books downloaded and it shows as 
2.49 Gigabytes, Facebook is next with 540.7 Megabytes so these two apps alone 
take up about 3 Gigabytes of the 9.96 used by apps. I have a total of 64 apps 
on my phone.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
amedl...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?

Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space. 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

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礪


On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com  " 
mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and

RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
How do I clean up after install?  Thanks.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Weiss
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

The download sizes vary between the different devices.  For example I have an 
iPhone 8 Plus and an iPhone 8 and there are two different downloads required 
when updating each device.

I have updated my 8 Plus and the download to disk was just shy of 4 GB, my 
updated phone shows that the iOS is using almost 10 GB on the actual phone.  
The downloaded file is a compressed file which is extracted, installed and then 
cleaned up.  The physical install file is still on my Mac hard drive, but any 
temporary files used during install should be cleaned up after a successful 
install onto the phone.

Jim Weiss

jimweiss...@gmail.com  


“You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer 
yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you 
know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go…” | Dr. Seuss





On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Marie mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Wouldn’t the end result be the current IOS plus the amount of GB in the 
download?

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:59 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

I have an iPhone 6S Plus and if I go to Settings > General > iPhone Storage it 
says for System at the very bottom 8.74 Gigabytes.

My phone is a 64Gb model and at the top it says that I am using only 18.7 
Gigabytes of my 64 Gigabytes.

If the System takes up 8.74 GB that means I am using 9.96 for apps, here Auible 
uses the most storage because I have several books downloaded and it shows as 
2.49 Gigabytes, Facebook is next with 540.7 Megabytes so these two apps alone 
take up about 3 Gigabytes of the 9.96 used by apps. I have a total of 64 apps 
on my phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
amedl...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?

Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space. 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. Utah 
Phillips

 

 

礪


On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:11 AM, "amedl...@gmail.com  " 
mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
What is IPhone SE, what number?  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or so 
it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m., mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > 
escribió:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
Thanks, IOS updated fine but I then wanted to update Facebook and said space 
issue.  It did not give any other info.

Ann

  

 

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Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:22 PM
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Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

Hi,

 

When you choose to update, iOS checks to see if there's enough room. If not, it 
offers to delete some apps and then put them back after the update is complete. 
I've done this a couple of times, and it always worked fine.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 





On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Gerardo Corripio mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

On my iPhone SE for instance, it was only 1.36GB. Bigger than maybe 1.50 or so 
it doesn’t get; so you’d have more than enough space update.update.



Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


El 25 sep 2018, a la(s) 6:10 a. m., <  
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I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
I called Apple and technician said that IOS 12 is 10 GB.

 

 

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Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?

Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space. 

HTH,

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I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
Thanks.  I don’t know how to update to IOS 12 using ITunes because phone 
already updated to IOS 12.  I have no idea how to go back.

 I read that it is better to update with ITunes rather than on phone.

  

 

 

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Subject: Re: How many GB is IOS 12?

 

It is around 2GB. Can you update via a computer using iTunes?

Since you only really have a bit over 12 GB to start with on a 16 GB device, it 
is a pretty high percentage of your storage space. 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

 

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mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited mail 
and texts…

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.  

Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

 

 

 

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How many GB is IOS 12?

2018-09-25 Thread amedlar1 
I have 16 GB Iphone6.  I have lots of apps, no music no videos and limited
mail and texts.

Upgraded to IOS 12.

I got a space issue when updating Facebook.  

Deleted some apps but did not free up much space

Open General settings then IPhone storage went to bottom system is 10.05 GB.


Is IOS 12 this big?  

Thanks,

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